I owned the Range Rover and X7 before I ended up purchasing the LX570. Comfort, usability, handling, and the confidence just can't beat the LX570. And I bought that especially before they go turbo trouble.
The LX570 models from 2011-2015 looked like tanks from the rear. The size of the dual rear tail-lights were HUGE. It especially looked good in the Lexus Pearl/White paint. Lexus always does the best paint, I remember when I bought an LS430 for my father the salesman at the Lexus Dealership was telling me about how it had over 23kg of paint on it. And that the front windscreen was coated in artificial sapphire to stop stones causing windscreen cracks, like a luxury watch, except, you know, A WHOLE WINDSCREEN. That car was insane. Lexus spared no expense. It even had Birds Eye Maple wood on the inside and they specifically used cuts from the same tree for each car so that the 'birds eye' effect of the wood was consistent. Insane.
@@MrLazlnessI have a 2013 in pearl white with black interior. I love that combo! We are fortunate not to have the tan interior. The black just looks way more upscale.
Hey Alex, great review as always. I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you taking the time to research the competition and talk about it in each of your videos!
Took ours to Yellowstone from CA, love the ride and yes the fuel economy is just little less than a V6 vehicle (we were traveling with one) we averaged 18mpg for the trip, but we had an easier time going up the hill.
"all we get is the LX"?... This is a Landcruiser Gorilla wearing a tuxedo... it is awesome. I have it's little brother thr Lexus GX. Again a Gorilla wearing a tuxedo. It literally goes anywhere in luxury.. a true offroader that is reliable and lasts forever. The Landcruiser will always be sold in America... just under the LX or GX names.
@@SpaceZeee So true... dunno if the reviewer understands just how well built toyota/lexus is... my 1995 Camrys original clutch gave out at 300k... everything else was fine.. took the $ saved over the years and wrote a check for a new GX... every toyota is truly built with the best part suppliers..m
LEXUS 570 is built to last until the end of time. Easily last you 20-30 years. If you keep this SUV for 20 years (240 months), then that's like 400 dollars a month for this 100k vehicle.
I have q7 2019 3 years old 25000mls. Good car when new. after 3 years it feels like it's getting old, not because of design but you feel a little noise here and there on bumps. never again unibody SUV, only body on frame and not local due to constant repairs only Japan
It's somehow fitting that Alex dug up a Marlene Dietrich song to describe not only the infotainment system but the outdated interior as well. She may have even still been alive when this generation debuted since she was born in 1901 (according to Wikipedia).
Have a 2023 GX460. Love it. Only downside is low torque on long interstate hills. Would almost switch to a 2021 LX to get more torque and eliminate downshifts. Choices, choices
Was shopping for an LX570 back in 2022. Test drove one (poorly priced) and it was superb. Every bit a Lexus. Drove 2 QX80's and they felt like Nissan Titans. Faster, but inferior in every other way. Ran across a minty GX460 for a great price and ended up with that. Even the GX is significantly more refined than the Infiniti.
the biggest issue i got with lexus is they never change. that LX is nearly identical to the last time i seen one at the dealership back in 2013. i hope the new is modern.
Just remember that a lot of the Tundra this gen of LC is based on was carryover from the last gen Tundra, so the roots of this vehicle are a lot closer to 2000/2001. The only other vehicles on the road that I know of with roots that are over 15 years old are the charger/challenger/300 and Nissan frontier, both of which are are being redesigned and being replaced respectively, but even then the new frontier is just a new body and trans with a modified engine, the frame and such is the same
It can tow more than 7000# if you upgrade the stock coil springs which are rated at 170#/in (aka soft). Originally LX570 was rated to tow ~8100# but was derated in 2011ish because folks were overloading the AHC. The main complaint was the ride being stuck on AHC-LOW. AHC has decent overhead built in it to allow you to go over 7000# but not to 8100#. Look up on IH8MUD and see how people have installed uprated coil springs (OME 2721/2722 and Icon 2" dual rated springs) to assist the AHC. The dual rated springs (OME 2721 and Icon) are rated between 270#/in to 340#/in. The coil springs will take up more weight and ease AHC loading thus allow for increased payload/tongue weight. The axle weight is rated the same as LC200, which is rated to tow up to 8100#.
They need to add a plugin hybrid option added to the naturally aspirated 8 cylinder. 50 miles of pure electric range would make this car or the GX a no brainer.
I can't understand why Lexota couldn't integrate the LX's 3rd row seats to stow into the floor with this generation like the current GX. 03-09 GX - 3rd row stowed vertically next to window 08-Present LX - 3rd row stowed vertically next to window 10-Present GX/10-Present 4runner - 3rd row stowed into floor wtf
This is a very old design and the rear floor is relatively high due to the need for clearance of the solid rear axle and the underfloor storage of the spare tire. Yes, the GX 3rd row stows into the floor but to do so they raised the floor height about 5 inches. So when you open the rear door on the GX, the sill of the door is about 5 inches below the floor height. The 3rd row of the GX takes up a ton of cargo room. The 5th Gen 4Runner without the 3rd row has 80 cu ft of cargo space with the second row folded. The GX has only 60 cu ft of cargo space with the 2nd and 3rd row folded -- that is a huge loss of cargo space. For me, I'd much rather have the 3rd row seats in the LandCruiser and LX as they are now, so that I can take remove them as I don't need them. Once they are integrated, you can't remove them and you never get that cargo space back. This is a large, heavy, off-road capable SUV. That comes with a lot of compromises -- heavy weight, rougher ride from the solid rear axle, relatively poor on-road handling, and less interior room. If you don't need the off-road capability, then a crossover like an X7 or GLS is likely a better vehicle for you.
The biggest competitor for the Lexus LX is the Toyota Land Cruiser Toyota solved that problem by killing off the Land Cruiser in the US There's simply more profit in selling the LX, and we'll have a new Lexus LX next year So if you want the new Cruiser, you better expatriate, or kick it old school
I think it was because Land Cruiser sales were just too low. A buyer who can afford a Land Cruiser can and will prefer the LX because it is the same car but much more premium. Axing the Land Cruiser in the US just made sense and was a win win for Toyota/Lexus
@@maheenjillani The facts don't support that argument. Their sales are usually pretty close, and this year, the Cruiser is almost 2-1 ahead of the LX. They both sell 3-4k a year, usually. I see why Lexus is doing it. From a business case, it makes sense. If they sold the new Cruiser, I'd get that over the Lexus, because the Land Cruiser name means more to me. It's Toyota's #1 global brand, and the toughest truck on Earth. That matters.
@@InvestBetter. no clue where you got your data. Quick google search shows the LX sold 4700 in 2019 and the Land Cruiser was 3100 in 2019. Pretty massive difference so it makes sense why they would axe the Land Cruiser. Maybe you would rather have the Toyota but let’s be real. In the US, hardly anyone is offroading these. I can’t remember the last time I saw a new land cruiser or LX on a trail, it’s all small jeeps and older cars. In reality, these cars were status symbols and anyone who was looking to buy it preferred the LX because it was nicer for not much more money.
@@maheenjillani And look at this year. Land Cruiser has reversed it, 3700 sales in 6 months, to 2200, so there is still plenty of demand for the Cruiser
You know what does not make sense? A 2017 Toyota Land Cruiser with sub 20k miles (i.e. no mods, never trailed, yet), selling above it's original MSRP used!! And the 2021 farewell model year selling way more than the "luxury" LX variants by a good $20-30k new or used. Don't get me started on the Heritage 2021 LC. They are at least $120k scalped from last year.
@@HunterXray I’d definitely buy a used one for $35k. But buying new? Naw. I’d rather buy a $48k suv now, and then buy another new $48k suv in 5 years, than have a 10 year old $96k suv.
starting at $96k?! thats alotta bread. do you guys get the nissan patrol and mitsubishi pajero? we have these in australia, equally serious offroaders, though alot cheaper than a land cruiser / lx 570. if i were shopping for a luxury serious offroader id be looking at range rover and g wagon.
We don’t get those and remember that if you are just planning on going for an adventure trip buy a Mercedes, Jeep, BMW , Land Rover, GM or Ford but if you would like go and come back issues free then better buy a Land Cruiser or LX570
How many 3rd row SUVs sold in the last decade that are off-road capable in the US? When you have a large family and also enjoy the travelling the remote areas, there is pretty much just one or two choices for the last decade. Either the LC200/LX570 or the LR3/4. Escalade, Suburban, Tahoe/Yukon, QX80, Armada, Sequoia, Expedition, and Navigator are all nice large 3 row SUV but they can't really off-road that well even if you upgrade the tires. Smaller SUVs like the 4Runner/GX are capable off-road but have narrow/tight 3rd rows. On long distance trips, your 3rd row passengers will hate you. Adventure variants of crossovers like the Telluride have decent 3rd row but can't off-road that well even with a small lift/better tires. You get much more legroom and interior width for baby car seats/passengers with the larger LC200/LR4. With the LC200/LX570 and LR3/4, you are essentially choosing between reliability or off-road prowess. Now that the Grand Wagoneer is making a come back, introduction of the Grand Cherokee L, and potentially a 3 row version of the Defender, we will have more options for the those of us with large families.
Toyota should just go ahead and offer their concept Lexus LX J201 since they’re leaving us with no LC. At the very least, allow us to mod and retain warranty. Hell, bring the LC 70’s series Stateside while they’re at it.. It drives me bonkers they offer these amazing vehicles everywhere but here. Sincerely, -Happy GX owner.
SERIOUSLY' NO TOUGH SCREEN!!! They need to do something about that infotainment system at this price point. Toyota really really really needs to step up their sound system game in their trucks.
Absolutely. 20" or 21" wheels on an offroad capable SUV are pointless -- heavier, more expensive, and less protection for the tire. I've got 18" wheels on my Land Cruiser and I don't bother to avoid potholes here in New England.
The size of the GX is ideal. I wish it had the LX exterior styling though, especially the tail lights. They both need an interior redesign. Nothing weird. Think more Bentley, less 4Runner.
A hard no to the overwrought, Judge Dredd body cladding (including the spindle grill), the # of features reduced for a higher Lexus price, and playing a 2021 price for 12 year old tech. It's a test by Toyota to see how much profit they can make off their brand name and a reputation for reliability. Get us the new LC.
Alex I hope that A for fuel economy score was a mistake cuz you rated the infinity QX80 a B. The infinity is actually slightly more fuel efficient according to official numbers.
Yes, our QX80 has been averaging 18 mpg over 7k miles in mixed driving which is 50% better than what Alex got in the LX, that's a huge difference. Plus the INFINITI runs on regular. Interior is nicer on the Lexus (except the terrible joystick we had on our LS460), but I don't understand the huge price premium.
The score should have been a B or B- for fuel economy. I own a LX570 and I am certain he would get similar mpg to EPA (12mpg/17mpg) for the LX if he hadn't drive over 2000'. When my vehicle was stock with all season tires and loaded with 6 people plus luggages, I average 17/18mpg. The LX570 has the same engine as the Land Cruiser/Tundra/Sequoia. You can run regular on it, engine power will be 381hp/401ft-lb. On premium, it will be 383hp/403ft-lb. So I stick to using regular fuel since my butt in the seat does not feel the extra 2hp/2ft-lb. The price difference is that you can really off-road with the LX570 and not worry about it breaking down. Take a look underneath the Land Cruiser 200 platform and you will notice that it is virtually flat with everything tucked up above & next to the frame (hence the interior has less headroom). This is primarily to prevent snagging obstacles while off-roading. None of the competitive SUVs (including the Toyota Sequoia) except the Land Rovers have a flat underbody. Plus there are enough aftermarket accessories to modify it very easily with smaller wheels/bigger tires, differential lockers, and the whole expedition setup because it is a common Land Cruiser platform. You can easily put 33" tires on it without trimming, and 34" tires with slight trimming. If you do not plan to venture far off-road or into remote places, then the QX80 is a better/wiser choice. I do wish that Nissan would offer an off-road trim for the Armada or QX80. If so, I would definitely take a hard look at the value proposition.
Very stoked for the upcoming redesign, though this hasn't aged terribly given how old it is. To me, this has aged more gracefully than the very slightly less ancient GX.
Alex, I'm so glad you made the comparison between this LX and the Range Rover which is a truly unreliable piece of crap that is far more expensive to own... especially given the fact that most of its life will be spent upon a lift at the local dealer.
Simply not true. Range Rovers are far more reliable now. Just look at the prices of used ones. Some people like more modern conveniences, like rear seats that actually fold into floor, or engines and transmissions that come from the current century.
I have a 07 gx470, I uave luxury with off road capability. Cant wait to get the lx soon for my wife and I'll pimp the gx for a better off road adventures.
Love your reviews and in-depth explanation but really don’t like the shots while driving. There’s nothing save for different camera angles that are placed on different locations on the car. It would have been so better if you could include driving shots of the car from outside as you review while driving. The explanation is nice but it gets so boring watching the same shot. Why don’t you bring along Sofyan to shoot the exterior shots of the car while driving? And I love his reviews as well. I have similar gripe on his videos. Perhaps, you could take exterior shots of the car while driving in his reviews.
@@loyal4theway159 not saying ur wrong , I own a cadillac. I still think toyota lexus is more reliable due to alot them having high mileage and high resale.
I have an relative who owns one of this for a while and yeah, im super disappointment with the very dated infotainment system. But for them, its about the reliability and plain status symbol along with fitting in with their particular friends who happens to also own one of these. Disappointed not on their choice but rather how strong the Toyota/Lexus brand can get a way with. But in the end of the day, it is not my car anyway and they live in a property that lacks an garage leaving public street parking the only option which is understandably the shortcoming of the EV charging infrastructure.
If the Land Cruiser were coming here, with the LX, I'd get the Cruiser It has a heritage and a cache the LX cannot match Land Cruiser sales have almost tripled this year, now that Toyota is killing it off Toyota is hoping all of that demand will fall to the LX, with the Cruiser out of the way.....
Lexus reliability any day over Land Rover's "Prince of Darkness" legacy. Depreciation on Land Rovers is some of the worst in the industry. My $24K GX470 I bought used in 2017 is still going strong and I could sell it for $20K. Can't say that about Land Rover or any of the British Leyland products.
12MPG which was below EPA rating and still it gets an A for fuel economy? Sounds like a heavy duty truck with huge gas engine territory when it comes to gas mileage. I wouldn’t be surprised F250 with V8 7.3 or Ram 2500 power wagon with 392hemi gets better mileage than this.
@@justSTUMBLEDupon I have a 1998 LX470 with almost 300K miles on it. The engine and transmission is still silky smooth. I would take this vehicle anywhere on land. I'm never going to get rid of it.
99.99% of LX570s in North America will be on pavement, but I can guarantee you that guys in the ME will be hurling these off sand dunes and onto rocks.
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I owned the Range Rover and X7 before I ended up purchasing the LX570. Comfort, usability, handling, and the confidence just can't beat the LX570. And I bought that especially before they go turbo trouble.
So excited for the redesign. This model can not come soon enough!
It’ll probably look similar to the new land cruiser redesign in Europe
@@edmlegend7224 if it does, that’ll be awesome! It’s a handsome look!
''LONG LIVE THE LAND CRUISER IN THE LEXUS FORM'' Well said Alex!
The Land Cruiser will be certainly missed 😥
That was genius
The LX570 models from 2011-2015 looked like tanks from the rear. The size of the dual rear tail-lights were HUGE. It especially looked good in the Lexus Pearl/White paint.
Lexus always does the best paint, I remember when I bought an LS430 for my father the salesman at the Lexus Dealership was telling me about how it had over 23kg of paint on it. And that the front windscreen was coated in artificial sapphire to stop stones causing windscreen cracks, like a luxury watch, except, you know, A WHOLE WINDSCREEN. That car was insane. Lexus spared no expense. It even had Birds Eye Maple wood on the inside and they specifically used cuts from the same tree for each car so that the 'birds eye' effect of the wood was consistent. Insane.
I have a 2013 in pearl white with black interior. The car is very well built. The sound system sounds better than most of the cars I’ve ever been in.
@@MrLazlnessI have a 2013 in pearl white with black interior. I love that combo! We are fortunate not to have the tan interior. The black just looks way more upscale.
Hey Alex, great review as always. I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you taking the time to research the competition and talk about it in each of your videos!
Love that you perseverate on the Land Cruiser moniker, one of the greatest traditional SUVs ever.
That is literally the first time I’ve ever seen someone use that word. Bravo!
We just had our 18’ LX in the mountains and on some sketchy paths. Zero problems navigating. Plan on driving it until it dies in 15 years.
Alex, With so many choices and such intense competition in the 3 ton, $100,000+ SUV category, it almost comes as a relief to be flat broke :-(
Took ours to Yellowstone from CA, love the ride and yes the fuel economy is just little less than a V6 vehicle (we were traveling with one) we averaged 18mpg for the trip, but we had an easier time going up the hill.
I like this Lexus LX 570 with the SPORT PACKAGE Grill and front spoiler that you are presenting today.
I love the LX, I hope they don’t get rid of the split tailgate like they did on the new land cruiser 300.
"all we get is the LX"?... This is a Landcruiser Gorilla wearing a tuxedo... it is awesome. I have it's little brother thr Lexus GX. Again a Gorilla wearing a tuxedo. It literally goes anywhere in luxury.. a true offroader that is reliable and lasts forever. The Landcruiser will always be sold in America... just under the LX or GX names.
They're not putting respect on this legendary vehicles name.
This thing will outlive the entire lineup it was being compared to.
@@SpaceZeee So true... dunno if the reviewer understands just how well built toyota/lexus is... my 1995 Camrys original clutch gave out at 300k... everything else was fine.. took the $ saved over the years and wrote a check for a new GX... every toyota is truly built with the best part suppliers..m
@@SpaceZeee what about highlander
@@randomrazr ALL Toyotas are made from the best parts... in general their engines are by Yamaha and the drive components are by Aisin
@@randomrazr what are you doing here?
LEXUS 570 is built to last until the end of time. Easily last you 20-30 years. If you keep this SUV for 20 years (240 months), then that's like 400 dollars a month for this 100k vehicle.
I have q7 2019 3 years old 25000mls. Good car when new. after 3 years it feels like it's getting old, not because of design but you feel a little noise here and there on bumps. never again unibody SUV, only body on frame and not local due to constant repairs only Japan
Alex - “A” for fuel economy? I think you meant “D”.
Compared to luxury SUV's!
U mean F. This gets hellcat fuel economy while having less than half of its power
@@topnineshow Yeah and it's still very low, absolutely not an "A" no matter in absolute or relative sense
@@blackice7408 Yeah because people buy this truck for its zero to sixty capabilities.
This Lexus will still be on the road 20 years from now thanks to high reliability
Just bought a 2021 with the sports package, drove it from NYC to Miami and averaged 15 mpg, ride quality is unsurpassed. Don't need that ttv6.
This thing is gorgeous. Would take this over any other competitor
I bought the 21' LX570 Luxury Sport and I prefer it over any other brand. IMO.
Love it, too big for me, but love my 14 GX460 which offers all the goodness in a smaller package.
It's somehow fitting that Alex dug up a Marlene Dietrich song to describe not only the infotainment system but the outdated interior as well. She may have even still been alive when this generation debuted since she was born in 1901 (according to Wikipedia).
The Lexus LX is the third best vehicle behind the #1 Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro and #2 Toyota Land Cruiser.
Have a 2023 GX460. Love it. Only downside is low torque on long interstate hills. Would almost switch to a 2021 LX to get more torque and eliminate downshifts. Choices, choices
Was shopping for an LX570 back in 2022. Test drove one (poorly priced) and it was superb. Every bit a Lexus. Drove 2 QX80's and they felt like Nissan Titans. Faster, but inferior in every other way. Ran across a minty GX460 for a great price and ended up with that. Even the GX is significantly more refined than the Infiniti.
An "A" for fuel economy? What does a "B" or "C" look like???
I think B is a Abrams Tank and C is a fully loaded 747.
for 14 years old engine that is not bad
I think it's a typo. Alex said it's below EPA estimate that's already poor. Probably C or C- likely.
From my driving experience, the new LX does not really consume much fuel like its previous model which is so surprised
@@bobbbobb4663 a D- would be a fully loaded rocket carrying a full payload of gasoline going up into the lower atmosphere just to blow up haha
the biggest issue i got with lexus is they never change. that LX is nearly identical to the last time i seen one at the dealership back in 2013. i hope the new is modern.
Just got a 21 LX, amazing.
Just remember that a lot of the Tundra this gen of LC is based on was carryover from the last gen Tundra, so the roots of this vehicle are a lot closer to 2000/2001. The only other vehicles on the road that I know of with roots that are over 15 years old are the charger/challenger/300 and Nissan frontier, both of which are are being redesigned and being replaced respectively, but even then the new frontier is just a new body and trans with a modified engine, the frame and such is the same
Best car ever. I have a 2019 LX. I only wish it had slightly better towing capabilities.
It can tow more than 7000# if you upgrade the stock coil springs which are rated at 170#/in (aka soft). Originally LX570 was rated to tow ~8100# but was derated in 2011ish because folks were overloading the AHC. The main complaint was the ride being stuck on AHC-LOW. AHC has decent overhead built in it to allow you to go over 7000# but not to 8100#. Look up on IH8MUD and see how people have installed uprated coil springs (OME 2721/2722 and Icon 2" dual rated springs) to assist the AHC. The dual rated springs (OME 2721 and Icon) are rated between 270#/in to 340#/in. The coil springs will take up more weight and ease AHC loading thus allow for increased payload/tongue weight. The axle weight is rated the same as LC200, which is rated to tow up to 8100#.
May be an old vehicle but it lookssss sooo goooddd 🤤
They need to add a plugin hybrid option added to the naturally aspirated 8 cylinder. 50 miles of pure electric range would make this car or the GX a no brainer.
That Lexus is like an Abrams Tank.
I find it easy to get around hair pin turns here in the central Texas hill country with sport + mode
I can't understand why Lexota couldn't integrate the LX's 3rd row seats to stow into the floor with this generation like the current GX.
03-09 GX - 3rd row stowed vertically next to window
08-Present LX - 3rd row stowed vertically next to window
10-Present GX/10-Present 4runner - 3rd row stowed into floor
wtf
This is an old design with lipstick over it. It’s body on frame so putting the seats into the floor would mean redesigning the entire car.
Same reason the Tahoe and suburban have that bump in the back before the redesign
The new land cruiser 300 have integrated 3rd row seat at the expense of about 6 gallons fuel capacity.
@@Voltedge89 and it will also have a huge hump in the second row.
This is a very old design and the rear floor is relatively high due to the need for clearance of the solid rear axle and the underfloor storage of the spare tire.
Yes, the GX 3rd row stows into the floor but to do so they raised the floor height about 5 inches. So when you open the rear door on the GX, the sill of the door is about 5 inches below the floor height. The 3rd row of the GX takes up a ton of cargo room. The 5th Gen 4Runner without the 3rd row has 80 cu ft of cargo space with the second row folded. The GX has only 60 cu ft of cargo space with the 2nd and 3rd row folded -- that is a huge loss of cargo space.
For me, I'd much rather have the 3rd row seats in the LandCruiser and LX as they are now, so that I can take remove them as I don't need them. Once they are integrated, you can't remove them and you never get that cargo space back.
This is a large, heavy, off-road capable SUV. That comes with a lot of compromises -- heavy weight, rougher ride from the solid rear axle, relatively poor on-road handling, and less interior room. If you don't need the off-road capability, then a crossover like an X7 or GLS is likely a better vehicle for you.
That info system would stop me and did. Ended up with a Highlander.
There are aftermarket solutions available to add carplay/android auto if that is your priority.
The Highlander is a very different kind of SUV.
Cool.. where do I put the cassette based auxiliary audio input for my 2016 iPhone SE..
The LX , GX and the LandCruiser are cars you buy once and never have to worry about a car again for life.
I'm a huge Toyota fan but no android auto/apple car play is unacceptable on a 2021.
Agree. This is a huge drawback.
@@ToddEStewart it’ll come eventually
The 2022 GX is getting a touchscreen w CarPlay and android auto 😀
But with a catch. That also brings the trackpad
@@naveenthemachine Lexus is finally moving away from the trackpad.
@@M1911jln the new nx yes. But not sure about the others though
What gets me is that other Lexus and mainline Toyota trims support those things so why the exception in their luxury land cruiser is beyond me
the last of v8 lexus lx 570 was amazing
My father has a 2020 Lx, he loves it.
Have 2005 GX470
125K
No issues till date
The biggest competitor for the Lexus LX is the Toyota Land Cruiser
Toyota solved that problem by killing off the Land Cruiser in the US
There's simply more profit in selling the LX, and we'll have a new Lexus LX next year
So if you want the new Cruiser, you better expatriate, or kick it old school
I think it was because Land Cruiser sales were just too low. A buyer who can afford a Land Cruiser can and will prefer the LX because it is the same car but much more premium. Axing the Land Cruiser in the US just made sense and was a win win for Toyota/Lexus
@@maheenjillani The facts don't support that argument. Their sales are usually pretty close, and this year, the Cruiser is almost 2-1 ahead of the LX. They both sell 3-4k a year, usually. I see why Lexus is doing it. From a business case, it makes sense.
If they sold the new Cruiser, I'd get that over the Lexus, because the Land Cruiser name means more to me. It's Toyota's #1 global brand, and the toughest truck on Earth. That matters.
@@InvestBetter. no clue where you got your data. Quick google search shows the LX sold 4700 in 2019 and the Land Cruiser was 3100 in 2019. Pretty massive difference so it makes sense why they would axe the Land Cruiser.
Maybe you would rather have the Toyota but let’s be real. In the US, hardly anyone is offroading these. I can’t remember the last time I saw a new land cruiser or LX on a trail, it’s all small jeeps and older cars. In reality, these cars were status symbols and anyone who was looking to buy it preferred the LX because it was nicer for not much more money.
@@maheenjillani And look at this year. Land Cruiser has reversed it, 3700 sales in 6 months, to 2200, so there is still plenty of demand for the Cruiser
I'm actually surprised you put a con for predicted reliability on the Jeep but not also on the Landrover Alex.
that's because the Land Rover's reliability is very predictable, as people already know if you are getting a Land Rover, it will be in the shop often.
@@JW-ur1jw we all know JLR products are unreliable.
Maybe except the very old ones
You know what does not make sense?
A 2017 Toyota Land Cruiser with sub 20k miles (i.e. no mods, never trailed, yet), selling above it's original MSRP used!! And the 2021 farewell model year selling way more than the "luxury" LX variants by a good $20-30k new or used.
Don't get me started on the Heritage 2021 LC. They are at least $120k scalped from last year.
$96k is not a good deal for any suv. Don’t care what badge it has.
They are still very reliable used. ;)
The slight depreciation alone makes this a valid question, from a dollar spent/vs ROI perspective.
@@HunterXray I’d definitely buy a used one for $35k.
But buying new? Naw. I’d rather buy a $48k suv now, and then buy another new $48k suv in 5 years, than have a 10 year old $96k suv.
If old school is your thing and have the bucks, then this vehicle may be the one for you. Not myself however.
The GX does not come in a 2 row. I have a 2017 and it only came in a 3 row.
starting at $96k?! thats alotta bread. do you guys get the nissan patrol and mitsubishi pajero? we have these in australia, equally serious offroaders, though alot cheaper than a land cruiser / lx 570. if i were shopping for a luxury serious offroader id be looking at range rover and g wagon.
We don’t get those and remember that if you are just planning on going for an adventure trip buy a Mercedes, Jeep, BMW , Land Rover, GM or Ford but if you would like go and come back issues free then better buy a Land Cruiser or LX570
How many 3rd row SUVs sold in the last decade that are off-road capable in the US? When you have a large family and also enjoy the travelling the remote areas, there is pretty much just one or two choices for the last decade. Either the LC200/LX570 or the LR3/4. Escalade, Suburban, Tahoe/Yukon, QX80, Armada, Sequoia, Expedition, and Navigator are all nice large 3 row SUV but they can't really off-road that well even if you upgrade the tires. Smaller SUVs like the 4Runner/GX are capable off-road but have narrow/tight 3rd rows. On long distance trips, your 3rd row passengers will hate you. Adventure variants of crossovers like the Telluride have decent 3rd row but can't off-road that well even with a small lift/better tires. You get much more legroom and interior width for baby car seats/passengers with the larger LC200/LR4. With the LC200/LX570 and LR3/4, you are essentially choosing between reliability or off-road prowess. Now that the Grand Wagoneer is making a come back, introduction of the Grand Cherokee L, and potentially a 3 row version of the Defender, we will have more options for the those of us with large families.
Toyota should just go ahead and offer their concept Lexus LX J201 since they’re leaving us with no LC. At the very least, allow us to mod and retain warranty. Hell, bring the LC 70’s series Stateside while they’re at it.. It drives me bonkers they offer these amazing vehicles everywhere but here.
Sincerely,
-Happy GX owner.
Best SUV.
I bought one because of this video
SERIOUSLY' NO TOUGH SCREEN!!!
They need to do something about that infotainment system at this price point. Toyota really really really needs to step up their sound system game in their trucks.
Look at the new Lexus NX
Can't believe you give A to fuel economy. Its mpg is much lower than Lincoln Navigator and Cadillac Escalade long version.
I might end up putting smaller wheels and more meat, the wheels comes with are too big. I like to have more side wall.
Absolutely. 20" or 21" wheels on an offroad capable SUV are pointless -- heavier, more expensive, and less protection for the tire. I've got 18" wheels on my Land Cruiser and I don't bother to avoid potholes here in New England.
The size of the GX is ideal. I wish it had the LX exterior styling though, especially the tail lights.
They both need an interior redesign. Nothing weird. Think more Bentley, less 4Runner.
I love this thing. 😍
A hard no to the overwrought, Judge Dredd body cladding (including the spindle grill), the # of features reduced for a higher Lexus price, and playing a 2021 price for 12 year old tech. It's a test by Toyota to see how much profit they can make off their brand name and a reputation for reliability. Get us the new LC.
If you want to go Safari get a Land Rover if you want to come back get a Land cruiser
Lmao
just wish they had APPLE CAR PLAY!!!!!!
Beat of the best
Alex I hope that A for fuel economy score was a mistake cuz you rated the infinity QX80 a B.
The infinity is actually slightly more fuel efficient according to official numbers.
Yes, our QX80 has been averaging 18 mpg over 7k miles in mixed driving which is 50% better than what Alex got in the LX, that's a huge difference. Plus the INFINITI runs on regular. Interior is nicer on the Lexus (except the terrible joystick we had on our LS460), but I don't understand the huge price premium.
The score should have been a B or B- for fuel economy. I own a LX570 and I am certain he would get similar mpg to EPA (12mpg/17mpg) for the LX if he hadn't drive over 2000'. When my vehicle was stock with all season tires and loaded with 6 people plus luggages, I average 17/18mpg. The LX570 has the same engine as the Land Cruiser/Tundra/Sequoia. You can run regular on it, engine power will be 381hp/401ft-lb. On premium, it will be 383hp/403ft-lb. So I stick to using regular fuel since my butt in the seat does not feel the extra 2hp/2ft-lb. The price difference is that you can really off-road with the LX570 and not worry about it breaking down. Take a look underneath the Land Cruiser 200 platform and you will notice that it is virtually flat with everything tucked up above & next to the frame (hence the interior has less headroom). This is primarily to prevent snagging obstacles while off-roading. None of the competitive SUVs (including the Toyota Sequoia) except the Land Rovers have a flat underbody. Plus there are enough aftermarket accessories to modify it very easily with smaller wheels/bigger tires, differential lockers, and the whole expedition setup because it is a common Land Cruiser platform. You can easily put 33" tires on it without trimming, and 34" tires with slight trimming. If you do not plan to venture far off-road or into remote places, then the QX80 is a better/wiser choice. I do wish that Nissan would offer an off-road trim for the Armada or QX80. If so, I would definitely take a hard look at the value proposition.
I would choose reliavility, either the lexus or infinity.
I want auto-pilot on the freeway for the LEXUS LX570! Or even better auto-pilot plus plug-in hybrid with 50-75 mile range!
I love that under Fuel Economy he gave it an “A”? 😂
I just... cant...
Alex, why give this an A for fuel econony?
I loved mine and it’s much more than a Land Cruiser. It’s a lovely luxury tank and they are rare in a sea of Escalades.
Stick to CR-Vs brah.
Very stoked for the upcoming redesign, though this hasn't aged terribly given how old it is. To me, this has aged more gracefully than the very slightly less ancient GX.
Alex, I'm so glad you made the comparison between this LX and the Range Rover which is a truly unreliable piece of crap that is far more expensive to own... especially given the fact that most of its life will be spent upon a lift at the local dealer.
Simply not true. Range Rovers are far more reliable now. Just look at the prices of used ones. Some people like more modern conveniences, like rear seats that actually fold into floor, or engines and transmissions that come from the current century.
I have a 07 gx470, I uave luxury with off road capability. Cant wait to get the lx soon for my wife and I'll pimp the gx for a better off road adventures.
12 mpg gets an A for fuel efficiency?
LAND CRUISER 💪💪
Love your reviews and in-depth explanation but really don’t like the shots while driving. There’s nothing save for different camera angles that are placed on different locations on the car. It would have been so better if you could include driving shots of the car from outside as you review while driving. The explanation is nice but it gets so boring watching the same shot.
Why don’t you bring along Sofyan to shoot the exterior shots of the car while driving? And I love his reviews as well. I have similar gripe on his videos. Perhaps, you could take exterior shots of the car while driving in his reviews.
It’s basically a luxury tank
It will outlive all the humans
I would get lX 570 reliability, The other offerings aren't as reliable
But more luxurious and more fuel efficient
Cadillac and Lincoln are very reliable based on my experience
@@loyal4theway159 not saying ur wrong , I own a cadillac. I still think toyota lexus is more reliable due to alot them having high mileage and high resale.
Funny how such a huge vehicle ... has such a cramped backseat space.
95% of time, the owner never uses the 3rd row seats. I have been driving this LX since 2018.
I have an relative who owns one of this for a while and yeah, im super disappointment with the very dated infotainment system. But for them, its about the reliability and plain status symbol along with fitting in with their particular friends who happens to also own one of these.
Disappointed not on their choice but rather how strong the Toyota/Lexus brand can get a way with. But in the end of the day, it is not my car anyway and they live in a property that lacks an garage leaving public street parking the only option which is understandably the shortcoming of the EV charging infrastructure.
Range rovers are vehicles to lease since they will fall apart. Lx570 is something you own forever...
Is this the new L300 engine?
Hey Alex when will the civic review come out?
Actually, the Lexus GX is the Lexus version of the Toyota 4Runner! It has nothing to do with the LX in way shape or form.
I think what he meant is the Land Cruiser Prado, which also related to the 4Runner as well
If it’s make you to feel better
sound isolation lexus vs Infinity?
If the Land Cruiser were coming here, with the LX, I'd get the Cruiser
It has a heritage and a cache the LX cannot match
Land Cruiser sales have almost tripled this year, now that Toyota is killing it off
Toyota is hoping all of that demand will fall to the LX, with the Cruiser out of the way.....
Lexus really needs to get rid of that hideous front spindle grille
I don't think it's going to happen. It took me awhile to get used to those grilles .We have a 2017 RX 350 F Sport. I love it in spite of the grille !
I agree. I specifically bought a 2019 GX in 2020 solely due to the grill.
Lexus reliability any day over Land Rover's "Prince of Darkness" legacy. Depreciation on Land Rovers is some of the worst in the industry. My $24K GX470 I bought used in 2017 is still going strong and I could sell it for $20K. Can't say that about Land Rover or any of the British Leyland products.
I thought the new Sequoia was also going to basically the Land Cruiser this time. I feel like I read that somewhere. 🤷🏾♂️
Lexus = Luxury exports to the US.
It's a great SUV, I honestly think American Full SUVs are better offers.
Better buy one while you can when the V8 is gone its gone
Good riddance.
When is the TX coming out ?🤔
Texas?
After grand highlander, may be as 2024 model
Lexus LX: Lexus Land Xuiser.
🤡👍
GLS 550 for the win !!!!!
14 mpg is really unnecessary with 2021 technology. Really needs an engine update.
2007? Yet Nissan/Infiniti gets all the sticks for not updating their fleets frequently.
12MPG which was below EPA rating and still it gets an A for fuel economy? Sounds like a heavy duty truck with huge gas engine territory when it comes to gas mileage. I wouldn’t be surprised F250 with V8 7.3 or Ram 2500 power wagon with 392hemi gets better mileage than this.
I call it the Lexus Cruiser
It’s a beast but even with Toyota reliability, $100K for a 10 year old design is a tough proposition.
The problem is we know a redesign is coming soon, so it makes very little sense to buy a new one right now.
Not if you want it to last 20 years worry free (as long as you keep the maintenance schedule
@@justSTUMBLEDupon better try to find a used one at good price.
@@justSTUMBLEDupon I have a 1998 LX470 with almost 300K miles on it. The engine and transmission is still silky smooth. I would take this vehicle anywhere on land. I'm never going to get rid of it.
99.99% of LX570s in North America will be on pavement, but I can guarantee you that guys in the ME will be hurling these off sand dunes and onto rocks.
That third row is not a 3 seater; regardless of a head rest. It’s comical that they would even attempt to market that as a 3 seater.
Fuel Economy Rating is "A" ?!?! Come on Alex :-D