Yeah bull fucking shit it wasn't fun to watch??.. not only that but you got thunder dan, Kevin Smith that team was the shit? This guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about?
In 1987 they made the illegal offense rule so MJ couldn't isolate so easily. They had an offense in 1986-87 season that all the players would stand to one side and high and Jordan would be isolated on the other side and cook his defender. This play was made illegal in 1987, look up 1987 illegal offense rule, there is still the archive of the rule. This was to make it harder for Jordan to iso, now other players had to be below the freethrow line at least 3. So that's a comback to Wilt saying they only changed things to help him, the f outta here.
They were able to play this way because of the illegal defense rule. It was still in place until they banned it in the early 2000s (illegal defense). If you were caught, the other team was given free-throws and the possession of the ball. I always hated that rule. Why forcing teams to play defense a certain way? FIBA and NCAA never had any problems.
@@david.tousignant20 Defense was better that way, it's the same thing as 3 second defensive rule basically, if someone spreads the floor. You could double and disguise zones, but couldn't stand in paint if spread. You could stand just outside the paint and that was enough. So no it wasn't a big deal. Today it's the same thing if people spread the floor what you gonna do you have to guard. Back then you could be close to paint.
That's because certain players respect the pecking order. Even today u see it in certain instances, w/GS being one. Steph like the great MJ let's the owners"own", the GM's"GM", the coaches"coach", & the players"play"........& u see the results of it!!!
@@ReverendSam1 We call New York Yankees as evil empire. How about Utah Jazz's salary compare with Bull's in 1997-98 season ? From the other perspective, if you get paid the same in any company (25%, 30% or 35% cap), you want to work for a better environment, with your buddy, winning culture, etc.
@@ReverendSam1 Did you even watch the video ? MJ's salary was more then the other teams' whole salary. Imagine LBJ and KD's salary were bigger than the teams' whole salary, they certainly cannot form the super team and stay where they were.
@@YuShawStang The great MJ never made anywhere close to what he was worth!! I've seen docu's that said the great MJ wasn't getting paid. NTM he was trying to get pip'paid!!!
There were bigs that dominated the game after the great MJ, I just believe the great MJ let the pecking order of things reign. Some players nowadays need to try that........just saying 🤔!!!
When was Hand Checking Added to the NBA? The NBA implemented Hand Checking during the 2004-2005 season. In efforts to decrease hand-checking, clarify blocking fouls and implement the defensive three-second rule. These rules were added in an attempt to “open up the game” (Official NBA Rules History). Everywhere I look it says the official enforcement of hand check was this year after Jordan's retirement so I am not sure about your info in this video about hand checking being illegal and strictly enforced when you say, I definitely watched 90's basketball and even on the shot against Utah and Russell, Russell is hand checking Jordan to start the play. As I say every source I am finding says 2004 is when the implementation and enforcement of hand checking came about.
Handchecking is absolutely overrated and has been debunked so many times, the lies and myths have been exposed: th-cam.com/video/TEF1lVcUDEk/w-d-xo.html
I can clearly remember handchecking in the late 90s. If I'm not mistaken,you couldn't handcheck with both hands anymore,but you could still handcheck. I remember handchecking being banned in the mid 2000s.
I guess you did more research than Andy before he made this video..sadly so far 49k people have seen this and those people will automatically believe him without researching....
1995 the Hand checking wasn't completely removed you just couldn't put your palm on the player. You could hand check with the back of your hand and forearms. 2005 After Detroit Pisons won the Nba Finals, the Nba completely removed the hand checking and so you couldn't touch the player with your hand at all
Maybe I'm wrong but for the 1st 2 that you said, The thing about the 5 second rule And the 3 second rule To me both of these just seem like logical rules to make To keep the game moving, Also I do not think that the 3 second rule limited the amount of impact that big men have in the game I think they just have to play better rather than standing right in front of the hoop
There was already a rule which was similar to the three second rule (illegal defense), but it actually applied for a much bigger part of the court; not just the paint. Limiting 'illegal defense' to just the paint made it easier to play defense.
The ban of the defensive 3 seconds it's not a logical rule to make; they cancelled the rule to prevent zone defense and make the game more flashy, given that now the paint was open to high flying wing players. Zone defense made kind of a comback in recent years but it's mostly a gimmick and works just because players don't know what to do against it, the paint it's still wide open and it would be easy for a european coach to tear apart the whole scheme. The rise of 3pt shooting would've killed zone defense organically and that would've been natural, not some arbitrary rule change.
@@davidem759 Players and coaches in the NCAA and around the globe ("FIBA") are able to break down zones : cuts, motions, ball movements, etc. All NBA players competed against zones defenses prior to the NBA. In FIBA, zones are not a base defense, they can be use to change the pace of the game, but you don't rely all game on a zone, it would be a huge mistake (because, there are exceptional shooters there).
Your videos never fail to be really creative to people who just wanna learn more about certain parts of NBA history and I love that. You really inspired me to start posting video, thank you for that Andy!
Jordan completely changed the concept of 'athlete' It can be said that he truly changed the culture and history of sports itself. That is the solid reason why Jordan is gaining worldwide respect and admiration, not just an American sports star.
Man Jordan was soft as hell for complaining to David Stern lol even Wilt Chamberlain even said they changed the rules for him and made it harder for him
@@alexanderadonyae7937 I watched all the Pistons-vs-Bull games back in the day,the Pistons were CLOBBERING Jordan every time he drove the lane.Some times 2/3 players taking MJ to the ground,surprised MJ never had a serious injury due to these tactics.MJ wasn't SOFT,ne was SMART,Jordan was the face of the nba at that time and sold out the Bulls arena and other teams arenas ( even the bad teams/losing records ) I lived in Philly during these times,got to see Jordan play LIVE 6 times in the regular season.WHAT a joy !!!! LOL.And MJ didn't want to have a career ending injury just because the Pistons couldn't guard him.
It would be very interesting to see how the game would’ve been like today if MJ did play under today’s rules , obviously for one thing , there’s challenges , and now the game isn’t physical as it once was back in the early 80s and 90s for that reason alone
Imagine playoff-Kawhi with a better athleticism and the best rim-attack of this league… and Kawhi already is dropping 30 on nearly 60% shooting the last time he was in the playoffs
LeChoke is definitely not worth $100M a year. How is he able to bring that much profit into an organization? Even the Laker fans want to get rid of him.
Curry not making it in the 80s is because he's injury prone and the 80s was a more physical era. Add in the difference between eras on health, fitness, and tech. He'd dominate the entire time in the 80s if given the green light to shoot like he does now. He'd just get injured and be out the league sooner than now. He's going to have a 20 year career. If he played in the 80s, he'd be out in 12-14 seasons at least. It would basically just set his prime back. People would still see how great he was, they'd just be saying, "if only he didn't get injured," like T-Mac or Rose. They wouldn't fair well in the 80s either. That warriors team in the 80s would be a perfect fit though. If Steph was drafted in 85 within 4 years he'd have Mullin, Richmond, and Tim Hardaway. They'd get Sprewell on his 7th season and hopefully they wouldn't get rid of Mitch 😔. That team would be so good, IDK maybe they'd take the attention off Steph and he wouldn't get injured.
Jordan was underpayed too. Only last years, i remember it was only one, but i assume author is right and it was last two years. But before that, Jordan made about same as Pippen.
This is what I am saying on MJs overall career! His salary before 96 was shitty af. He generated more money from endorsements than the nba itself before. Lol
I'm not even a Jordan fan but that man and Scottie as well was grossly underpaid.. Chicago and the league made Billions off of Jordan and he wasn't getting the most money possible.. That was and is criminal.. I know Dirk Nowitzki didn't asked for top pay but damn it dude deserved everything.. If Dirk asked Mark Cuban for the most money possible it would have been a crime if Mark said no.. cause clearly Dirk deserves that money more over than anyone..
Wilt had to understand the difference in his era and MJ's, though. The game in the 60s and 70s was frenetic and had well over 100 possessions, but by the 90s, possessions dropped dramatically and so did the points. The game got stale. Wilt's 100 point game was out of 169 team points -- a fast-paced game! But by the mid 90s, it was commonplace to see 80 or even 70 point games. Boring to a lot of the casual fans that MJ's flair brought to the sport.
@@NothingElseMattersJM Wilt led the league in scoring 7 times and rebounding 11 times, averaged 50 ppg 25 rpg in one season and is one of 2 players to win 3 straight regular season mvps, also Wilt was a much better shotblocker than Jordan, even though they did not record blocks before 1974
@@stealthiscool Jordan being the *"best shotblocking guard ever"* will not change the fact that Wilt scored just as much as Jordan while being 4 and 8 times the rebounder and shotblocker Jordan was
I may be wrong, but the NBA did those rule changes primarily for the good of the game. Not to stifle one but to develop the others. I mean that comment by Wilt doesn't seem fair.
@@ronaldomedina928 No player in the 90s got the same level of star treatment the way MJ did, especially when the postseason began post-1990 after the last Pistons defeat
It is clear that in the dates and reason for these rule (hand check and 3pt distance) changes were not for Jordan. It was for the other players. Remember that Jordan already averaged more than 30 point before the (1) flagrant rule. He also averaged less per year as his team gets better...
Knew of these, but the Bulls salary list was shocking. Made me sympathize with Pippen just a little bit. He made less than Harper, Longley and Kukoc? Crazy.
There was a time he was only the *6th* highest paid player on his own team, and about 150th 'highest' paid in the league. It was almost criminal. AND extremely valuable for the rest of the Bulls roster. He was a perennial all-Defense team selection, and eventually all-NBA first team multiple times as well. By being able to pay him so little AND keep him, the Bulls had a lot of salary room to pay all the role players more. The same was true to a lesser degree for Jordan as well. He didn't make huge money until his last two years (mostly in the $3m a year range all the rest of the time). So by the salary rules of the day, the Bulls had their best two players on the cheap, and could load up talent in the other spots.
Don't feel bad for him. He was advised to sign a shorter contract that would have allowed for him to negotiate a more lucrative contract later, but he opted for the longer contract for personal security. Basically he decided not to bet on himself and lost a lot of money because of it.
@@cobra7282 might have missed this or just not paid attention, but that's some good context right there. Sounds like he played it safe and is having buyer's remorse couple of decades later.
@@mitomidou I believe it was in the last dance, but I have seen this elsewhere as well. He signed a 7 year contract in 1991 before he had reached his best years. Had he simply signed a 3-4 year contract he could have demanded more when he broke out. He especially would have gotten more after that 93-94 season.
@@cobra7282 Now that makes sense to me now how I missed that. Watched The Last Dance only in the periphery while I was working at home during the dark times. Gonna have to give it another binge watch see what else I missed.
Folks didn’t realize that the business side of basketball plays a part in why guys didn’t leave the teams that drafted them. That 1999 lockout changed everything from here on out.
@@___Anakin.Skywalker as he said in the league didn’t have the luxury taxes etc prior to the 1999 lockout. There was no cap space limit to how much you can give a player but now teams don’t wanna take a luxury tax penalty hit for going over the cap. Which is why you see more player movement now more than ever. Shaq was the first & only star caliber player to move from the team that drafted him in the 1988-1998 timeframe. Since then there is a ton of movement.
Can you make a video about Bill Russell? We all know how great of a player he is but I feel like he deserves a video from you after his passing and having his #6 jersey retired across the NBA.
It starts with both Magic and Bird before Stern became commissioner, because both of them saved the league from bankruptcy and are also the reason the league was able to garner a very lucrative TV deal as well
Jordan was underpaid almost his entire career that's why the Chicago bulls make up to him I think in his last two season ...pippen makes more money in his contract than MJ that's why pip doesn't have the right to complain...you sign it leave with it..honor your contract...
@TylerHingleton right but let u dudes tell it da so called rule changes help jordan win though lol. Also how many chips did Wilt win b4 da rules changes for him? Nice try though
@@g24deez Difference is, Wilt won his rings despite the rule changes to try and curtail his dominance, while your manufactured idol couldn't win anything after the rule changes and the powerhouse teams of the 80s were either older or on the verge of retirement. Wilt checked that little MF when they first met in 1997 and the former brought up the rule changes, and your boy had nothing to say. Nice try though 🤣
@@g24deez Difference is, Wilt won his rings despite the rule changes to try and curtail his dominance, while your manufactured idol couldn't win anything after the rule changes and the powerhouse teams of the 80s were either older or on the verge of retirement. Wilt checked that little MF when they first met in 1997 and the former brought up the rule changes, and your boy had nothing to say. Nice try though 🤣
@@g24deez "The difference between you and me, they changed the rules to try and stop me from dominating, while they changed the rules, so you could dominate". Wilt to MJ in 1997, and your manufactured idol had nothing to say 🤣
Getting owned by Boston and Detroit in the playoffs is not dominating at all, The so called *"incomparable goat"* only dominated in a watered down expansion anti-zone era when the Celtics and Lakers dynasties were gone.
@@dynamic6645 Jordan didnt have an adequate team like those two. Boston was pretty much gone by the time Jordan was 25 and Detroit had to pratically kill him to win. No comparison.
@@dynamic6645 19-21 year old MJ shot 54% FG against zone defenses in college lol. MJ’s playoff career vs pistons: 30 ppg , 6.7 rebounds, 6.1 assists, 2.1 steals on 481.% FG, 30.4% 3pt and 81% FT. The bad boys didn’t lock MJ down lol .they just had a better team
The NBA heavily favored Michael Jordan because he is the most marketable superstar in his era. No wonder why he became the greatest if not the greatest
@CavsDQ Puncho does got a point.. No matter how set everything is for you if you're trash it will show immediately.. Look at the guys they gave the ball to and say he is the next big thing to only see them last for 3 to 5 years in the league.. *"You can only push people so far, they got to push themselves the rest of the way(Message!)"*
@CavsDQ If you can’t comprehend what I’m saying there’s not much more I can tell you but once again if you’re trash no matter how much the NBA market you the people will see the truth
DAVID STERN WAITED A DECADE TO STOP THE FLAGRANTS; THEN HE WENT STRAIGHT TO FIXING GAMES ..... REGULAR SEASON HOME TEAMS DON'T GET BLOWN OUT. ALL PLAYOFF SERIES GET TO SEVEN GAMES .....
@@puncho8799 jordan and the bulls whined to the front office and was literally sending tapes😭 david stern had to accommodate his no.1 cash cow and soften up the league a bit for him
@@cartierjosh It sounds like the Bulls front office was doing that and the Pistons was trying to take Jordan head off every chance they got and he was still scoring 30+ every game on them that’s what you call goat shit 🐐
@@puncho8799 obviously jordan pushed for them to do it. the way his fans tell it you’d think he had no input with the front office and he never made demands like current players 💀
@@cartierjosh I think the front office seen how the Pistons was trying to take Jordan head off every play and they are the ones that went to David Stern and people just put it on Jordan like he was the one that did it
I was skeptical at first when they said that MJ was a walking free throw back in the day but I watched a random game about him playing vs the Lakers in a regular season and boy it was a bore. I'm not hating on the guy but I was convinced that the NBA was protecting their most valuable asset by letting him take those FTs before he gets injured by penetrating.
That's how Jordan scored a shitload of points, the refs gave him illusion foul calls sending him to the line, the handchecking and illegal defense calls he and the Bulls got helped them a lot.
@@ryanr20091 It's a real shame that the NBA did not officially record blocks and steals before 1974, MJ is not the GOAT, and the GOAT debate would be very different if: 1) Wilt was still alive. 2) The league recorded steals and blocks before 1974
I obviously knew the flagrant foul and hand checking, but I totally forgot about the max contract. You're right though, Michael's ridiculous contract was directly responsible for the lockout finally happening in 1999 although to be fair that lockout was a long time coming and had been building towards that for a while.
He's showing ppl how to dominate in a. Soft way.....not. Really putting in the soul killing effort.....get ready for a new type of NBA....in the future
Wilt is jealous!! Always has been!! Jordan was still very dominant even before those rule changes came around!! He was going to be great regardless of whether or not those changes were coming!!
wilt averaged 50ppg a game and scored 100 points thats more than some teams lol there's nothing wilt was the most dominant player ever . Jordon is a flashy scorer compared to wilt but he isn't better
@@ryanr20091 wilt ain’t average that in the finals where he got disappeared the most , 2-6 finals against plumbers 🤧 lemickey would destroy wilt and that era
@@shaggydee91 jerry west, bob petit, Walt Bellamy, Elgin Baylor, Nate Thurmond, Walt Frazier, jerry Lucas, Wayne Embry, cliff Hagen, and Richie Guerin. most of these players were all stars and some of them were hofs
@@shaggydee91 like bro u can't speak on 60s ball if u just think Kareem, wilt, Russel and Robertson were the only good players like have u not heard of JERRY WEST or ELGIN BAYLOR
No hand-checking rule in 90s was easily defeated as players stuck their forearms instead of hands on opposing guy's body and argued they were not "hand"-checking. So NBA had to go harder on these rules in 2004 to completely remove any remaining HC tricks left in the game.
Actually they changed the rules so Shaq and Barkley couldn't dominate The 5 second rule was introduced in the mid 90s called the Barkley rule look it up and Implemented Zone Defense and banned all hand checking in 04 to stop Shaq from dominanting don't listen to this guy they only started enforcing illegal hand checking in 95 there was still hand checking
The luxury tax need to change. It's unfair to the team that finds success by nurturing homegrown players into superstars, yet still punished the same as the teams with rosters consisting of nothing but nomad superstars, or even bad teams, those neglecting the rookies. There should be some incentives for teams those fall into the first group.
I'm not sure if we'll ever see a happy medium for the luxury tax, there's literal billionaire owners now so I'm sure some will be happy to offer more than other teams which would make others upset. It's also unfair to a team like the Warriors who organically built a great team but could lose solid players due to having a crazy luxury bill. So I'm not sure what the best solution would be in this scenario, they can soften the tax a bit but I'm sure others will take advantage if they do, making exceptions could also be exploited so I'm not sure what they could realistically do.
The Flagrant Foul rule was actually introduced in 1980-81. In 1990, they amended it and added two categories for Flagrant Fouls, and imposed stricter penalties, along with fines ($250 if ejected, haha)... and they actually started to enforce the rule which had been around for a decade. It wasn't just MJ and the Bulls ... Pat Riley had been complaining for years as well about the Celtics and Pistons playing dirty.
In 2004-05 NBA rules says..New rules were introduced to CURTAIL hand checking..I don't understand why NBA had to State the word "CURTAIL" if it was totally banned in 1995..
3:55 Look at Mark Price, Drazen Petrovic and all 3pt shooters in the 90's. They never had the chance to play their own game. Curry would never get favored in that era of speed and driving to the basket.
I do in 2K and he just dunks on everybody 💀 I had a game where he had 17 in the first half and it was all from cuts or dunks because I would hold him tight so he just does a poster so the Sim says
he also never played against modern defenses, having multiple players guard him and switch on him was illegal when he played and that's how every successful defense currently plays. he would be the man still but there's a disconnect about how defense is played now. handchecking is no where as effective as being swarmed by long armed defenders in droves.
MJ played against zones in college so he'd be just fine in today's era. He'd shoot more 3s (when he averaged 3 or more per game his % increased) and driving to the hoop is pretty easy as Centers are now driving from the perimeter with ease. He also was a superb point guard for the last 26 games of the 89' season, avg. 30ppg, over 10 assist and 9 rebounds. Most superstars today run the offense, so MJ's stats wouldn't suffer as they did running a team-offense like the Triangle.
@@kkbaby30 nah, he only had a good 3p% when the 3 point line was shortened. He sucks ass at 3s period. He also said he wouldn't work on it. Otherwise you may be correct but he wasn't a superstar in college either. I think he'd be a top 5 player in league still
The changes were central to my embrace of basketball, as a fan. I love the grace, the beauty, and the athleticism. That Barkley-like stuff was so not fun to watch. And the game is much more interesting and fun to watch now that “ smaller” players are full participants.
I think harden is the most recent player to force them to change so many rules. They changed how they called 3s, landing zones, and drives, and had to clarify the gather step. Harden is actually majorly responsible for making the NBA tougher than it has been in decades.
You mean they had to make shit up to allow Harden to keep doing that step back? The other stuff is because he was gaming the system with his flopping and foul baiting so they had to try and take that stuff away so other players don't start doing that same crap.
Since they added the flagrant foul in 1991 (which is good, the incentive to play the game cleanly) and the hand-checking ban in 1995... defensive 3 sec violation on top, in 2001, is too much. Defense should be a decent collective option, not a joke like it's today. Defensive 3 sec violation could be undone.
Luka has been on record that the D3 rule is largely what makes the NBA an easier league to score in than Euroleague. With the current domination of play away from the basket it would make sense to get rid of the D3 rule and give the defense some sort of an even playing field.
Lol I remember Wilt telling MJ that they didn’t change the rules for him like they did for him!! But they did man!!! The greatest player ever demands adjustments to keep others from copying and/or using similar moves and routes!!
Andy Hoops not doing his research as usual. Hand checking was banned in the mid 00s dude. If you watch mid to late 90s basketball, you can still see there are clearly instances of hand checking.
It's true that it was outright banned in 2004, but the NBA had tried to minimize it's impact once in the 80s and again in the mid 90s. Those first two attempts didn't really do much to change it though. You might remember a while in the late 90s early 2000s where it was common to put your forearm in the chest of the dribbler. This was because they had gotten a bit more strict on hand checking and that was the adjustment to it. Then in 2004 they introduced freedom of movement rules and simply went too far the other direction..
I know this has nothing to do with the actual point of this video but ppl always point out how lil Pippen was making without also acknowledging that he did it to himself! How many owners would tell a guy “hey don’t sign this you’ll regret it. You can make way more money later if you do a shorter deal” he signed a 10 year low ball contract. Caused that himself
6:34 Chamberlain was so assuming with those statements, the rules changed for him were also applied on Jordan, so between the two, it was Jordan who dominated. If you recall the changed rules on Chamberlain, they were so pathetic considering his physique he should still have dominated then.
Great line by Wilt. Definitely the changes made basketball girly and more girly as more changes will come and did come. Time for another league that resembles the NBA of old where it was a man's sport.
The only positive that came out of the shorter 3 point line was that teams took more threes. However it only slowed down the pace of the game more because it made spacing even worse. As for what guys would do with that line today, they would probably just stand 3-5 feet behind it for more spacing.
A whole book was not written about the Jordan Rules. The book 'The Jordan Rules' was authored by Chicago Tribune reporter Sam Smith, released in 1992. It was about the Bulls' 1990-91 season and Jordan's role and influence on the team and his teammates. The fact that it shares a title with the Pistons' 'rules' for defending Jordan is a coincidence. Tiny bit of research would've told you this, although any real basketball fan would already know.
Cuz MJ knew it was true, and Wilt had a bigger mouth and ego than the former did, and MJ knew his place. NBA legend Bill Walton has no reason to lie about that story lol
Also 3 second rule was implemented in 01-02 season and 5 second rule was implemented in 99 but was known as the Barkley rule Jordan had nothing to do with any of these except for Flagrant but it wasn't just him in was league wide
This is why the nonsensical idea that MJ won due to rules changes is false. The only change between the late 80’s til 91’ was the flagrant foul. Hand checking still existed, still no defensive 3 seconds which since that’s been implemented look how easy it is for any wing player to take it to the cup. No HC and defensive 3 secs. Complete marshmallow league today. And these changes happened after Jordan retired.
"He's too good so let's try to hurt him" Yeah that's some great analysis ya got there bud. I'm sure, to this day, whenever you see the refs call a flagrant foul on the floor, if the player isn't hurt then you lament the days when men were men and could foul however they wanted 👍
LeBron fans: "Those hard fouls of the 80s isn't real basketball" *league changes rules to protect players from those unnecessary hard fouls* Also LeBron fans: "The NBA changed the rules because Jordan made them. The league fixed it for him"
I wish the flagrant foul was implemented a lot sooner, that way Jordan would've had a fighting chance to be able to win those lost series and would have won more titles than he has now. He would've nearly had 10 rings today if so. Close to Bill Russell for sure.
Had no idea Charles Barkley was the reason for the 5 second rule. Learned something today
Yeah bull fucking shit it wasn't fun to watch??.. not only that but you got thunder dan, Kevin Smith that team was the shit? This guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about?
Yeah he would always just sit in the post all possession before finally shooting the ball lol
I knew and was glad when they changed it..
Yep
Yup
In 1987 they made the illegal offense rule so MJ couldn't isolate so easily. They had an offense in 1986-87 season that all the players would stand to one side and high and Jordan would be isolated on the other side and cook his defender. This play was made illegal in 1987, look up 1987 illegal offense rule, there is still the archive of the rule. This was to make it harder for Jordan to iso, now other players had to be below the freethrow line at least 3. So that's a comback to Wilt saying they only changed things to help him, the f outta here.
Okay jordan d ryder
Well it didn’t stop Jordan from isoing so it wasn’t effective lol
@@Nuthinnull I see you don’t like hearing the truth 🤷🏽♂️
They were able to play this way because of the illegal defense rule.
It was still in place until they banned it in the early 2000s (illegal defense). If you were caught, the other team was given free-throws and the possession of the ball.
I always hated that rule. Why forcing teams to play defense a certain way? FIBA and NCAA never had any problems.
@@david.tousignant20 Defense was better that way, it's the same thing as 3 second defensive rule basically, if someone spreads the floor. You could double and disguise zones, but couldn't stand in paint if spread. You could stand just outside the paint and that was enough. So no it wasn't a big deal. Today it's the same thing if people spread the floor what you gonna do you have to guard. Back then you could be close to paint.
After watching this video, you begin to realize that player empowerment just wasn’t a thing in the NBA back in those days.
That's because certain players respect the pecking order. Even today u see it in certain instances, w/GS being one. Steph like the great MJ let's the owners"own", the GM's"GM", the coaches"coach", & the players"play"........& u see the results of it!!!
@@ReverendSam1 We call New York Yankees as evil empire.
How about Utah Jazz's salary compare with Bull's in 1997-98 season ?
From the other perspective, if you get paid the same in any company (25%, 30% or 35% cap), you want to work for a better environment, with your buddy, winning culture, etc.
@@YuShawStang I don't really know a/b players salaries & whatnot. I don't get involved w/other ppl's💰! What's your point??
@@ReverendSam1 Did you even watch the video ? MJ's salary was more then the other teams' whole salary.
Imagine LBJ and KD's salary were bigger than the teams' whole salary, they certainly cannot form the super team and stay where they were.
@@YuShawStang The great MJ never made anywhere close to what he was worth!! I've seen docu's that said the great MJ wasn't getting paid. NTM he was trying to get pip'paid!!!
Basically, mj changed the nba from big man dominant league to guard dominant league
Yup
Yea he always was a crybaby
@@arizonaFIREent lmao sure
There were bigs that dominated the game after the great MJ, I just believe the great MJ let the pecking order of things reign. Some players nowadays need to try that........just saying 🤔!!!
@@arizonaFIREent propaganda. In 1987 Det vs Bos, Stern said he’s stopping physical force on fouls. & flagrants existed since 1980-81.
When was Hand Checking Added to the NBA? The NBA implemented Hand Checking during the 2004-2005 season. In efforts to decrease hand-checking, clarify blocking fouls and implement the defensive three-second rule. These rules were added in an attempt to “open up the game” (Official NBA Rules History). Everywhere I look it says the official enforcement of hand check was this year after Jordan's retirement so I am not sure about your info in this video about hand checking being illegal and strictly enforced when you say, I definitely watched 90's basketball and even on the shot against Utah and Russell, Russell is hand checking Jordan to start the play. As I say every source I am finding says 2004 is when the implementation and enforcement of hand checking came about.
Handchecking is absolutely overrated and has been debunked so many times, the lies and myths have been exposed: th-cam.com/video/TEF1lVcUDEk/w-d-xo.html
I can clearly remember handchecking in the late 90s. If I'm not mistaken,you couldn't handcheck with both hands anymore,but you could still handcheck. I remember handchecking being banned in the mid 2000s.
I guess you did more research than Andy before he made this video..sadly so far 49k people have seen this and those people will automatically believe him without researching....
1995 the Hand checking wasn't completely removed you just couldn't put your palm on the player. You could hand check with the back of your hand and forearms. 2005 After Detroit Pisons won the Nba Finals, the Nba completely removed the hand checking and so you couldn't touch the player with your hand at all
@@dudoban What the hell is this then: th-cam.com/video/kaSZF5onHco/w-d-xo.html
Can't touch anyone ? Bullshit
Maybe I'm wrong but for the 1st 2 that you said, The thing about the 5 second rule And the 3 second rule To me both of these just seem like logical rules to make To keep the game moving, Also I do not think that the 3 second rule limited the amount of impact that big men have in the game I think they just have to play better rather than standing right in front of the hoop
There was already a rule which was similar to the three second rule (illegal defense), but it actually applied for a much bigger part of the court; not just the paint. Limiting 'illegal defense' to just the paint made it easier to play defense.
@@mve0172 The old illegal didn’t mean you have to be arms length from a defender. That’s the modern illegal defensive 3.
The ban of the defensive 3 seconds it's not a logical rule to make; they cancelled the rule to prevent zone defense and make the game more flashy, given that now the paint was open to high flying wing players. Zone defense made kind of a comback in recent years but it's mostly a gimmick and works just because players don't know what to do against it, the paint it's still wide open and it would be easy for a european coach to tear apart the whole scheme.
The rise of 3pt shooting would've killed zone defense organically and that would've been natural, not some arbitrary rule change.
They couldn’t stand under the hoop before. The defensive 3 second rule came in to replace the illegal defense rule
@@davidem759
Players and coaches in the NCAA and around the globe ("FIBA") are able to break down zones : cuts, motions, ball movements, etc.
All NBA players competed against zones defenses prior to the NBA.
In FIBA, zones are not a base defense, they can be use to change the pace of the game, but you don't rely all game on a zone, it would be a huge mistake (because, there are exceptional shooters there).
Your videos never fail to be really creative to people who just wanna learn more about certain parts of NBA history and I love that. You really inspired me to start posting video, thank you for that Andy!
Jordan completely changed the concept of 'athlete'
It can be said that he truly changed the culture and history of sports itself.
That is the solid reason why Jordan is gaining worldwide respect and admiration, not just an American sports star.
Man Jordan was soft as hell for complaining to David Stern lol even Wilt Chamberlain even said they changed the rules for him and made it harder for him
@@alexanderadonyae7937 I watched all the Pistons-vs-Bull games back in the day,the Pistons were CLOBBERING Jordan every time he drove the lane.Some times 2/3 players taking MJ to the ground,surprised MJ never had a serious injury due to these tactics.MJ wasn't SOFT,ne was SMART,Jordan was the face of the nba at that time and sold out the Bulls arena and other teams arenas ( even the bad teams/losing records ) I lived in Philly during these times,got to see Jordan play LIVE 6 times in the regular season.WHAT a joy !!!! LOL.And MJ didn't want to have a career ending injury just because the Pistons couldn't guard him.
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@@alexanderadonyae7937 mj is 6,6 while wilt is 7 feet and he was getting beaten up by at least 2 person every single possession.
It would be very interesting to see how the game would’ve been like today if MJ did play under today’s rules , obviously for one thing , there’s challenges , and now the game isn’t physical as it once was back in the early 80s and 90s for that reason alone
Imagine playoff-Kawhi with a better athleticism and the best rim-attack of this league… and Kawhi already is dropping 30 on nearly 60% shooting the last time he was in the playoffs
It would be DeRozen +. Pluss, he would be all Nba defender. Last season, DeRozen ended that "mid range, no 3pt" bullsh.
Y’all say this like their was any elite Perimeter defenders in the 80s/90s
@@beatsro5040 He literally won finals mvp being guarded defensive player of the year Gary Payton….
@@NothingElseMattersJM and what was his shooting% lmao he literally won it because of name value
LeChoke is definitely not worth $100M a year. How is he able to bring that much profit into an organization? Even the Laker fans want to get rid of him.
Curry not making it in the 80s is because he's injury prone and the 80s was a more physical era. Add in the difference between eras on health, fitness, and tech. He'd dominate the entire time in the 80s if given the green light to shoot like he does now. He'd just get injured and be out the league sooner than now. He's going to have a 20 year career. If he played in the 80s, he'd be out in 12-14 seasons at least. It would basically just set his prime back. People would still see how great he was, they'd just be saying, "if only he didn't get injured," like T-Mac or Rose. They wouldn't fair well in the 80s either.
That warriors team in the 80s would be a perfect fit though. If Steph was drafted in 85 within 4 years he'd have Mullin, Richmond, and Tim Hardaway. They'd get Sprewell on his 7th season and hopefully they wouldn't get rid of Mitch 😔. That team would be so good, IDK maybe they'd take the attention off Steph and he wouldn't get injured.
Jordan was underpayed too. Only last years, i remember it was only one, but i assume author is right and it was last two years. But before that, Jordan made about same as Pippen.
Overall in career NBA earnings Pippen made more than Jordan
severely underpaid!!!! he changed the economy by multi-billions!!!!!
This is what I am saying on MJs overall career! His salary before 96 was shitty af. He generated more money from endorsements than the nba itself before. Lol
I'm not even a Jordan fan but that man and Scottie as well was grossly underpaid.. Chicago and the league made Billions off of Jordan and he wasn't getting the most money possible.. That was and is criminal.. I know Dirk Nowitzki didn't asked for top pay but damn it dude deserved everything.. If Dirk asked Mark Cuban for the most money possible it would have been a crime if Mark said no.. cause clearly Dirk deserves that money more over than anyone..
@@kenrickkahn spoken like a Jordan fan
Wilt had to understand the difference in his era and MJ's, though. The game in the 60s and 70s was frenetic and had well over 100 possessions, but by the 90s, possessions dropped dramatically and so did the points. The game got stale. Wilt's 100 point game was out of 169 team points -- a fast-paced game! But by the mid 90s, it was commonplace to see 80 or even 70 point games. Boring to a lot of the casual fans that MJ's flair brought to the sport.
Great Point
True. MJ has much better points per possession numbers than Wilt.
@@NothingElseMattersJM Wilt led the league in scoring 7 times and rebounding 11 times, averaged 50 ppg 25 rpg in one season and is one of 2 players to win 3 straight regular season mvps, also Wilt was a much better shotblocker than Jordan, even though they did not record blocks before 1974
@@dynamic6645 Well obviously he was a better shot blocker with a wingspan of over 7ft but Jordan was probably the best shot blocking guard ever
@@stealthiscool Jordan being the *"best shotblocking guard ever"* will not change the fact that Wilt scored just as much as Jordan while being 4 and 8 times the rebounder and shotblocker Jordan was
6:26 That might be one of the most profound quotes I’ve ever heard from an athlete.
I would hope they would change the rules for a 7’0 playing in the 50-60 i’m not impressed
@@puncho8799 u act like 7 footers didnt exist in the 60s
You're so gullible
I may be wrong, but the NBA did those rule changes primarily for the good of the game. Not to stifle one but to develop the others. I mean that comment by Wilt doesn't seem fair.
@@ronaldomedina928 No player in the 90s got the same level of star treatment the way MJ did, especially when the postseason began post-1990 after the last Pistons defeat
It is clear that in the dates and reason for these rule (hand check and 3pt distance) changes were not for Jordan. It was for the other players.
Remember that Jordan already averaged more than 30 point before the (1) flagrant rule. He also averaged less per year as his team gets better...
🧢 lol Isiah Thomas even said mj complained to get the rules changed
Andy Hoops you don't mind uploading a video about how the 2004 Detroit Pistons implemented the Kobe Rules?
I forgot about that.. yeah..
Yeah shooting the Lakers outbof the finals
Knew of these, but the Bulls salary list was shocking. Made me sympathize with Pippen just a little bit. He made less than Harper, Longley and Kukoc? Crazy.
There was a time he was only the *6th* highest paid player on his own team, and about 150th 'highest' paid in the league. It was almost criminal.
AND extremely valuable for the rest of the Bulls roster. He was a perennial all-Defense team selection, and eventually all-NBA first team multiple times as well. By being able to pay him so little AND keep him, the Bulls had a lot of salary room to pay all the role players more. The same was true to a lesser degree for Jordan as well. He didn't make huge money until his last two years (mostly in the $3m a year range all the rest of the time).
So by the salary rules of the day, the Bulls had their best two players on the cheap, and could load up talent in the other spots.
Don't feel bad for him. He was advised to sign a shorter contract that would have allowed for him to negotiate a more lucrative contract later, but he opted for the longer contract for personal security. Basically he decided not to bet on himself and lost a lot of money because of it.
@@cobra7282 might have missed this or just not paid attention, but that's some good context right there. Sounds like he played it safe and is having buyer's remorse couple of decades later.
@@mitomidou I believe it was in the last dance, but I have seen this elsewhere as well. He signed a 7 year contract in 1991 before he had reached his best years. Had he simply signed a 3-4 year contract he could have demanded more when he broke out. He especially would have gotten more after that 93-94 season.
@@cobra7282 Now that makes sense to me now how I missed that. Watched The Last Dance only in the periphery while I was working at home during the dark times. Gonna have to give it another binge watch see what else I missed.
Hey Andy can u make. A video about the 2016 nba draft and how understated it is
Folks didn’t realize that the business side of basketball plays a part in why guys didn’t leave the teams that drafted them. That 1999 lockout changed everything from here on out.
Explain
@@___Anakin.Skywalker as he said in the league didn’t have the luxury taxes etc prior to the 1999 lockout. There was no cap space limit to how much you can give a player but now teams don’t wanna take a luxury tax penalty hit for going over the cap. Which is why you see more player movement now more than ever. Shaq was the first & only star caliber player to move from the team that drafted him in the 1988-1998 timeframe. Since then there is a ton of movement.
Free agency wasn't available to older generations
@@bakgammon before 1988 it wasn’t
Can you make a video about Bill Russell? We all know how great of a player he is but I feel like he deserves a video from you after his passing and having his #6 jersey retired across the NBA.
Without David Stern the NBA wouldn't have lasted
That's true! David Stern for all his faults was going to make the NBA Global and he did..
It starts with both Magic and Bird before Stern became commissioner, because both of them saved the league from bankruptcy and are also the reason the league was able to garner a very lucrative TV deal as well
Yeah I remember when they banned Jordan from morphing into a dinosaur mid-game, good times.
They should reduce by 50% the over the cap Tax when a player is signed by the team that drafted him. Will be easier to retain players.
That Wilt line is so legendary
I would hope they would change the rules for a 7’0 playing in the 50-60 i’m not impressed
He is a legend but he also played in a era where basketball was basically weak
nah.. he may be a legend but was HATING on MJ 😆
@@cd2ogz1 that's what I meant wilt was hating on MJ
That's nonsense. Jordan did more scoring before those rules.
Jordan was underpaid almost his entire career that's why the Chicago bulls make up to him I think in his last two season ...pippen makes more money in his contract than MJ that's why pip doesn't have the right to complain...you sign it leave with it..honor your contract...
Young MJ averaged 37 points in 1988 before these rules changes.
But couldn't win no championship, either
@TylerHingleton right but let u dudes tell it da so called rule changes help jordan win though lol.
Also how many chips did Wilt win b4 da rules changes for him?
Nice try though
@@g24deez Difference is, Wilt won his rings despite the rule changes to try and curtail his dominance, while your manufactured idol couldn't win anything after the rule changes and the powerhouse teams of the 80s were either older or on the verge of retirement. Wilt checked that little MF when they first met in 1997 and the former brought up the rule changes, and your boy had nothing to say. Nice try though 🤣
@@g24deez Difference is, Wilt won his rings despite the rule changes to try and curtail his dominance, while your manufactured idol couldn't win anything after the rule changes and the powerhouse teams of the 80s were either older or on the verge of retirement. Wilt checked that little MF when they first met in 1997 and the former brought up the rule changes, and your boy had nothing to say. Nice try though 🤣
@@g24deez "The difference between you and me, they changed the rules to try and stop me from dominating, while they changed the rules, so you could dominate". Wilt to MJ in 1997, and your manufactured idol had nothing to say 🤣
6:35 he was already dominating before the rule changes 😂😂😂
Getting owned by Boston and Detroit in the playoffs is not dominating at all, The so called *"incomparable goat"* only dominated in a watered down expansion anti-zone era when the Celtics and Lakers dynasties were gone.
@@dynamic6645 Jordan didnt have an adequate team like those two. Boston was pretty much gone by the time Jordan was 25 and Detroit had to pratically kill him to win. No comparison.
@@dynamic6645 19-21 year old MJ shot 54% FG against zone defenses in college lol.
MJ’s playoff career vs pistons: 30 ppg , 6.7 rebounds, 6.1 assists, 2.1 steals on 481.% FG, 30.4% 3pt and 81% FT. The bad boys didn’t lock MJ down lol .they just had a better team
@@dynamic6645 sounds like you’re mad Jordan is the goat 🐐 you must be a LeBron fan 🤣
@@NothingElseMattersJM They didn't have a better team, the Bulls even took a 2-1 series lead in the 1989 ECF, what happened next ? lol.
5:05 that was the worst double dribble ive ever seen
A image of Thorn and Jordan is a double dribble? I/diot
Someone send this video to Espn or whatever sports station. This video alone is very insightful to how our game is today because of the past changes
All right another Andy Hoops Saturday video YESSIRRRR
The NBA heavily favored Michael Jordan because he is the most marketable superstar in his era. No wonder why he became the greatest if not the greatest
He had to deliver you just can’t market a player and not have him play great 🐐
@CavsDQ No matter how much the NBA market you if your trash it’s going to show
@CavsDQ Puncho does got a point.. No matter how set everything is for you if you're trash it will show immediately.. Look at the guys they gave the ball to and say he is the next big thing to only see them last for 3 to 5 years in the league.. *"You can only push people so far, they got to push themselves the rest of the way(Message!)"*
@CavsDQ If you can’t comprehend what I’m saying there’s not much more I can tell you but once again if you’re trash no matter how much the NBA market you the people will see the truth
Yawn troll
DAVID STERN WAITED A DECADE TO STOP THE FLAGRANTS; THEN HE WENT STRAIGHT TO FIXING GAMES .....
REGULAR SEASON HOME TEAMS DON'T GET BLOWN OUT.
ALL PLAYOFF SERIES GET TO SEVEN GAMES .....
old head fans complain about the game going soft but their lord and savior MJ is one of the reasons the game is like it is
Even before the rule changes they still couldn’t stop Jordan from scoring blame the Pistons for being dirty not Jordan the goat 🐐
@@puncho8799 jordan and the bulls whined to the front office and was literally sending tapes😭 david stern had to accommodate his no.1 cash cow and soften up the league a bit for him
@@cartierjosh It sounds like the Bulls front office was doing that and the Pistons was trying to take Jordan head off every chance they got and he was still scoring 30+ every game on them that’s what you call goat shit 🐐
@@puncho8799 obviously jordan pushed for them to do it. the way his fans tell it you’d think he had no input with the front office and he never made demands like current players 💀
@@cartierjosh I think the front office seen how the Pistons was trying to take Jordan head off every play and they are the ones that went to David Stern and people just put it on Jordan like he was the one that did it
I was skeptical at first when they said that MJ was a walking free throw back in the day but I watched a random game about him playing vs the Lakers in a regular season and boy it was a bore. I'm not hating on the guy but I was convinced that the NBA was protecting their most valuable asset by letting him take those FTs before he gets injured by penetrating.
So you watched one game and came to that conclusion?
Foh
That's how Jordan scored a shitload of points, the refs gave him illusion foul calls sending him to the line, the handchecking and illegal defense calls he and the Bulls got helped them a lot.
Facts
@@dynamic6645 The majority of his FTs came during the Bulls losing seasons
I'm from Detroit, the hand checking rule was stupid, but I agree with the flagrant foul
Shutup you Pistons homer
MJ IS A BEAST GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME REALLY
wilt was greater let me know how many 50 points he has in comparison to the big dipper
@@ryanr20091 he has more career points....
@@ryanr20091 It's a real shame that the NBA did not officially record blocks and steals before 1974, MJ is not the GOAT, and the GOAT debate would be very different if:
1) Wilt was still alive.
2) The league recorded steals and blocks before 1974
@@dynamic6645 Kinda true but a lot of it could be dismissed on the less teams and less talent argument
Yesssssir that basic implosion is key
The problem today is that the NBA is not as fun to watch….every so often I will try to watch a game but I can’t finish it….
Thank you for this video!
Andy always comes handy if you wanna learn something new bout the NBA hey
I obviously knew the flagrant foul and hand checking, but I totally forgot about the max contract. You're right though, Michael's ridiculous contract was directly responsible for the lockout finally happening in 1999 although to be fair that lockout was a long time coming and had been building towards that for a while.
No it wasnt
LeBron also initiated a rule change. The Anti-Flopping rule
LeBron is creating a softness.....
He's showing ppl how to dominate in a. Soft way.....not. Really putting in the soul killing effort.....get ready for a new type of NBA....in the future
Harden and curry definitely initiated those rules by kicking there feet forward and falling into defenders to initiate contact and draw fouls.
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Wilt is jealous!! Always has been!! Jordan was still very dominant even before those rule changes came around!! He was going to be great regardless of whether or not those changes were coming!!
wilt averaged 50ppg a game and scored 100 points thats more than some teams lol there's nothing wilt was the most dominant player ever . Jordon is a flashy scorer compared to wilt but he isn't better
@@ryanr20091 wilt played against scrubz
Big O Bill Russell n Kareem r the only onez
@@ryanr20091 wilt ain’t average that in the finals where he got disappeared the most , 2-6 finals against plumbers 🤧 lemickey would destroy wilt and that era
@@shaggydee91 jerry west, bob petit, Walt Bellamy, Elgin Baylor, Nate Thurmond, Walt Frazier, jerry Lucas, Wayne Embry, cliff Hagen, and Richie Guerin. most of these players were all stars and some of them were hofs
@@shaggydee91 like bro u can't speak on 60s ball if u just think Kareem, wilt, Russel and Robertson were the only good players like have u not heard of JERRY WEST or ELGIN BAYLOR
No hand-checking rule in 90s was easily defeated as players stuck their forearms instead of hands on opposing guy's body and argued they were not "hand"-checking. So NBA had to go harder on these rules in 2004 to completely remove any remaining HC tricks left in the game.
I don't wanna hear shaq and Barkley complain about Harden dribbling and his playstyle, when just like them, he made the league change the rules.
Lmao
That's what u call an impactful player. The league has to tweak & adjust things because of their unique style of play.
what
Shutup Harden fan
Actually they changed the rules so Shaq and Barkley couldn't dominate The 5 second rule was introduced in the mid 90s called the Barkley rule look it up and Implemented Zone Defense and banned all hand checking in 04 to stop Shaq from dominanting don't listen to this guy they only started enforcing illegal hand checking in 95 there was still hand checking
This is why the stats of old school SG like Dr. J and Pistol Pete are so damn impressive.
Still waiting for Mike Miller video
The luxury tax need to change. It's unfair to the team that finds success by nurturing homegrown players into superstars, yet still punished the same as the teams with rosters consisting of nothing but nomad superstars, or even bad teams, those neglecting the rookies. There should be some incentives for teams those fall into the first group.
I'm not sure if we'll ever see a happy medium for the luxury tax, there's literal billionaire owners now so I'm sure some will be happy to offer more than other teams which would make others upset. It's also unfair to a team like the Warriors who organically built a great team but could lose solid players due to having a crazy luxury bill. So I'm not sure what the best solution would be in this scenario, they can soften the tax a bit but I'm sure others will take advantage if they do, making exceptions could also be exploited so I'm not sure what they could realistically do.
The Flagrant Foul rule was actually introduced in 1980-81.
In 1990, they amended it and added two categories for Flagrant Fouls, and imposed stricter penalties, along with fines ($250 if ejected, haha)... and they actually started to enforce the rule which had been around for a decade.
It wasn't just MJ and the Bulls ... Pat Riley had been complaining for years as well about the Celtics and Pistons playing dirty.
And changed the rules when the face of the league cried to the commissioner.
No actually in 90-91 😂
In 2004-05 NBA rules says..New rules were introduced to CURTAIL hand checking..I don't understand why NBA had to State the word "CURTAIL" if it was totally banned in 1995..
And in this video it shows that handchecking was illegal in the 90s: th-cam.com/video/TEF1lVcUDEk/w-d-xo.html
3:55 Look at Mark Price, Drazen Petrovic and all 3pt shooters in the 90's. They never had the chance to play their own game. Curry would never get favored in that era of speed and driving to the basket.
mark price and mahmoud abdul rauf were curry like players in 90s
Really wouldve been interesting to see mj play with today's rules
I do in 2K and he just dunks on everybody 💀 I had a game where he had 17 in the first half and it was all from cuts or dunks because I would hold him tight so he just does a poster so the Sim says
he also never played against modern defenses, having multiple players guard him and switch on him was illegal when he played and that's how every successful defense currently plays.
he would be the man still but there's a disconnect about how defense is played now. handchecking is no where as effective as being swarmed by long armed defenders in droves.
MJ played against zones in college so he'd be just fine in today's era. He'd shoot more 3s (when he averaged 3 or more per game his % increased) and driving to the hoop is pretty easy as Centers are now driving from the perimeter with ease. He also was a superb point guard for the last 26 games of the 89' season, avg. 30ppg, over 10 assist and 9 rebounds. Most superstars today run the offense, so MJ's stats wouldn't suffer as they did running a team-offense like the Triangle.
@@kkbaby30 nah, he only had a good 3p% when the 3 point line was shortened. He sucks ass at 3s period. He also said he wouldn't work on it. Otherwise you may be correct but he wasn't a superstar in college either. I think he'd be a top 5 player in league still
@@mosstwig3591 not true. You must not have Basketball Reference.
The changes were central to my embrace of basketball, as a fan. I love the grace, the beauty, and the athleticism. That Barkley-like stuff was so not fun to watch. And the game is much more interesting and fun to watch now that “ smaller” players are full participants.
Shutup
Jordan Rules
Bad Boy Pistons 🔥🔥🔥
I think harden is the most recent player to force them to change so many rules. They changed how they called 3s, landing zones, and drives, and had to clarify the gather step. Harden is actually majorly responsible for making the NBA tougher than it has been in decades.
took a page from Rodman. Harden is a copy cat
You mean they had to make shit up to allow Harden to keep doing that step back? The other stuff is because he was gaming the system with his flopping and foul baiting so they had to try and take that stuff away so other players don't start doing that same crap.
Since they added the flagrant foul in 1991 (which is good, the incentive to play the game cleanly) and the hand-checking ban in 1995... defensive 3 sec violation on top, in 2001, is too much. Defense should be a decent collective option, not a joke like it's today. Defensive 3 sec violation could be undone.
The defensive 3 second violation existed as *"illegal defense"* in the 90's, watch this: th-cam.com/video/6v_PaSn2Ygo/w-d-xo.html
Luka has been on record that the D3 rule is largely what makes the NBA an easier league to score in than Euroleague. With the current domination of play away from the basket it would make sense to get rid of the D3 rule and give the defense some sort of an even playing field.
Lol I remember Wilt telling MJ that they didn’t change the rules for him like they did for him!! But they did man!!! The greatest player ever demands adjustments to keep others from copying and/or using similar moves and routes!!
bro this thumbnail go crazy 😭😭
The Luxury Tax is a huge game changer.
I’ve never been this early . Hi Andy!
David Stern doesn't get enough credit for shaping the NBA into the business it is today.
Interviewer: What is a flagrant foul ?
Isiah: A Pistons Foul.
Love him or hate him.. he’s right.
Andy Hoops not doing his research as usual. Hand checking was banned in the mid 00s dude. If you watch mid to late 90s basketball, you can still see there are clearly instances of hand checking.
Handchecking was actually illegal since 1979, it is in the rule book and the footage proves it: th-cam.com/video/TEF1lVcUDEk/w-d-xo.html
He just milking mj's popularity for clicks and views.
@@dynamic6645 troll
It's true that it was outright banned in 2004, but the NBA had tried to minimize it's impact once in the 80s and again in the mid 90s. Those first two attempts didn't really do much to change it though. You might remember a while in the late 90s early 2000s where it was common to put your forearm in the chest of the dribbler. This was because they had gotten a bit more strict on hand checking and that was the adjustment to it. Then in 2004 they introduced freedom of movement rules and simply went too far the other direction..
Jaylen Brown next video Andy Hoops 🙏🙏🙏
Remember wilt chamberlain played with short white dudes and Jordan played with athletes...ok
I know this has nothing to do with the actual point of this video but ppl always point out how lil Pippen was making without also acknowledging that he did it to himself! How many owners would tell a guy “hey don’t sign this you’ll regret it. You can make way more money later if you do a shorter deal” he signed a 10 year low ball contract. Caused that himself
6:34 Chamberlain was so assuming with those statements, the rules changed for him were also applied on Jordan, so between the two, it was Jordan who dominated. If you recall the changed rules on Chamberlain, they were so pathetic considering his physique he should still have dominated then.
It’s still funny that there was a Jordan with hair and one with no hair 😂
Great line by Wilt. Definitely the changes made basketball girly and more girly as more changes will come and did come. Time for another league that resembles the NBA of old where it was a man's sport.
What exactly is "hand-checking"?
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Mj and Wilt Chamberlain are the two players that I know changed the rules of the NBA.
What was the nba's reason on going back to the original 3pt line for the 97-98 season?
Imagine the current league on that shortened line...
I imagine there would be no difference
The only positive that came out of the shorter 3 point line was that teams took more threes. However it only slowed down the pace of the game more because it made spacing even worse. As for what guys would do with that line today, they would probably just stand 3-5 feet behind it for more spacing.
Weren’t there rule changes in response to Wilt Chamberlain or Kareem Abdul-Jabbar?
2:46 yes this is true. The NBA did favor Jordan over anyone else.
that’s when he took it personal 😭😂
A whole book was not written about the Jordan Rules.
The book 'The Jordan Rules' was authored by Chicago Tribune reporter Sam Smith, released in 1992. It was about the Bulls' 1990-91 season and Jordan's role and influence on the team and his teammates. The fact that it shares a title with the Pistons' 'rules' for defending Jordan is a coincidence.
Tiny bit of research would've told you this, although any real basketball fan would already know.
Jordan had no comeback. I loled to that!
You're an i/diot and you actually think Wilt was serious
It wasnt a serious comment you i/diot
Cuz MJ knew it was true, and Wilt had a bigger mouth and ego than the former did, and MJ knew his place. NBA legend Bill Walton has no reason to lie about that story lol
Yeah right...MJ's highest output was before the rule changes made in the video!
I prefer the hard fouls and the hand check though.
Kinda nice to refute Wilt Chamberlain telling MJ did not change the NBA rules and he did
A video on NBA lockouts?
Hand checking was banned in 04, not 97
Also 3 second rule was implemented in 01-02 season and 5 second rule was implemented in 99 but was known as the Barkley rule Jordan had nothing to do with any of these except for Flagrant but it wasn't just him in was league wide
This is why the nonsensical idea that MJ won due to rules changes is false. The only change between the late 80’s til 91’ was the flagrant foul. Hand checking still existed, still no defensive 3 seconds which since that’s been implemented look how easy it is for any wing player to take it to the cup. No HC and defensive 3 secs. Complete marshmallow league today. And these changes happened after Jordan retired.
So they got rid of handchecking when Jordan was out of the league so players could play more like Jordan when handchecking was allowed 🐐
they change it, so that players in nba will be great as mike
@@shiningking At least they tried to be 🤷🏽♂️
@@puncho8799 yeah mj was like a modern player goes back to 80s to school and teach upcoming nba players modern moves
I was today years old (29) when I found out there wasn't a 3 second defense violation until the 90s
GOAT and its not even remotely close
Hello from the great nation of Latvia
BILL RUSSELL MADE A RULE:
AS LONG AS I AM PLAYING .....
YOU LOSE.
5:10 double dribble
Comments that it is easier for players to move around the league now, shows a picture of Damian Lillard (Portland Trailblazers, 2012-present)
Them gargoyle hands on the thumbnail is OD 🤣
I would like to have hand checking back. League is soft now, but at the same time I dont want to have Pistons brutality back. That was over the top.
Handchecking is not even gone. They allow it in the playoffs.
@@poly_g6068 True
@@NothingElseMattersJM No they don't players like harden get free-throws when a defender barely touches him💀💀💀
@@poly_g6068 No they don't
All those hard Pistons fouls and no one ever got hurt. Least of all Jordan. It was an executive decision by Nike for the league.
"He's too good so let's try to hurt him"
Yeah that's some great analysis ya got there bud. I'm sure, to this day, whenever you see the refs call a flagrant foul on the floor, if the player isn't hurt then you lament the days when men were men and could foul however they wanted 👍
@@JeremyGraczyk th-cam.com/users/shortscRa3xAAQEis?si=KJczc7oqJ8f5Qrk7
Oh yeah they were looking to murder him
LeBron fans: "Those hard fouls of the 80s isn't real basketball"
*league changes rules to protect players from those unnecessary hard fouls*
Also LeBron fans: "The NBA changed the rules because Jordan made them. The league fixed it for him"
They're bipolar that's why
I thought 2004 was the year hand-checking was banned?
I wish the flagrant foul was implemented a lot sooner, that way Jordan would've had a fighting chance to be able to win those lost series and would have won more titles than he has now. He would've nearly had 10 rings today if so. Close to Bill Russell for sure.
Bullshit watching Charles Barkley do that wasn't fun.. and was the shit!? It's stupid nonsense rule, a limiting Factor.