How Michael Jordan Created 3 New Rules That Changed The NBA Forever

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  • Let's take a look at how Michael Jordan forced the NBA to create 3 new rules that changed the NBA forever. Enjoy!
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  • @torachan23
    @torachan23 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    Had no idea Charles Barkley was the reason for the 5 second rule. Learned something today

    • @Jbgro
      @Jbgro ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah bull fucking shit it wasn't fun to watch??.. not only that but you got thunder dan, Kevin Smith that team was the shit? This guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about?

    • @TheSuperkeithg
      @TheSuperkeithg ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Yeah he would always just sit in the post all possession before finally shooting the ball lol

    • @jasonallen3678
      @jasonallen3678 ปีที่แล้ว

      I knew and was glad when they changed it..

    • @swagg4pres853
      @swagg4pres853 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep

    • @stress.relief
      @stress.relief ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup

  • @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
    @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly ปีที่แล้ว +49

    After watching this video, you begin to realize that player empowerment just wasn’t a thing in the NBA back in those days.

    • @theALMIGHTY987
      @theALMIGHTY987 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's because certain players respect the pecking order. Even today u see it in certain instances, w/GS being one. Steph like the great MJ let's the owners"own", the GM's"GM", the coaches"coach", & the players"play"........& u see the results of it!!!

    • @YuShawStang
      @YuShawStang ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theALMIGHTY987 We call New York Yankees as evil empire.
      How about Utah Jazz's salary compare with Bull's in 1997-98 season ?
      From the other perspective, if you get paid the same in any company (25%, 30% or 35% cap), you want to work for a better environment, with your buddy, winning culture, etc.

    • @theALMIGHTY987
      @theALMIGHTY987 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YuShawStang I don't really know a/b players salaries & whatnot. I don't get involved w/other ppl's💰! What's your point??

    • @Cavaliers71
      @Cavaliers71 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it was, but to jordan. Didn’t u see how the flagrant foul rule was exaggerated in 1990?

    • @YuShawStang
      @YuShawStang ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theALMIGHTY987 Did you even watch the video ? MJ's salary was more then the other teams' whole salary.
      Imagine LBJ and KD's salary were bigger than the teams' whole salary, they certainly cannot form the super team and stay where they were.

  • @toddmusic
    @toddmusic ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Young MJ averaged 37 points in 1988 before these rules changes.

    • @TylerHingleton
      @TylerHingleton วันที่ผ่านมา

      But couldn't win no championship, either

  • @bpmachete
    @bpmachete ปีที่แล้ว +131

    In 1987 they made the illegal offense rule so MJ couldn't isolate so easily. They had an offense in 1986-87 season that all the players would stand to one side and high and Jordan would be isolated on the other side and cook his defender. This play was made illegal in 1987, look up 1987 illegal offense rule, there is still the archive of the rule. This was to make it harder for Jordan to iso, now other players had to be below the freethrow line at least 3. So that's a comback to Wilt saying they only changed things to help him, the f outta here.

    • @Nuthinnull
      @Nuthinnull ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Okay jordan d ryder

    • @Oppenheimer1967
      @Oppenheimer1967 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Well it didn’t stop Jordan from isoing so it wasn’t effective lol

    • @puncho8799
      @puncho8799 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@Nuthinnull I see you don’t like hearing the truth 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @david.tousignant20
      @david.tousignant20 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They were able to play this way because of the illegal defense rule.
      It was still in place until they banned it in the early 2000s (illegal defense). If you were caught, the other team was given free-throws and the possession of the ball.
      I always hated that rule. Why forcing teams to play defense a certain way? FIBA and NCAA never had any problems.

    • @bpmachete
      @bpmachete ปีที่แล้ว

      @@david.tousignant20 Defense was better that way, it's the same thing as 3 second defensive rule basically, if someone spreads the floor. You could double and disguise zones, but couldn't stand in paint if spread. You could stand just outside the paint and that was enough. So no it wasn't a big deal. Today it's the same thing if people spread the floor what you gonna do you have to guard. Back then you could be close to paint.

  • @accountant3847
    @accountant3847 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Basically, mj changed the nba from big man dominant league to guard dominant league

    • @bobbysmoove4796
      @bobbysmoove4796 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yup

    • @arizonaFIREent
      @arizonaFIREent ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea he always was a crybaby

    • @jaylonarmstrong6568
      @jaylonarmstrong6568 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@arizonaFIREent lmao sure

    • @theALMIGHTY987
      @theALMIGHTY987 ปีที่แล้ว

      There were bigs that dominated the game after the great MJ, I just believe the great MJ let the pecking order of things reign. Some players nowadays need to try that........just saying 🤔!!!

    • @honorfirst7506
      @honorfirst7506 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arizonaFIREent propaganda. In 1987 Det vs Bos, Stern said he’s stopping physical force on fouls. & flagrants existed since 1980-81.

  • @user-jw5qj8kv2y
    @user-jw5qj8kv2y ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Jordan completely changed the concept of 'athlete'
    It can be said that he truly changed the culture and history of sports itself.
    That is the solid reason why Jordan is gaining worldwide respect and admiration, not just an American sports star.

    • @alexanderadonyae7937
      @alexanderadonyae7937 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Man Jordan was soft as hell for complaining to David Stern lol even Wilt Chamberlain even said they changed the rules for him and made it harder for him

    • @powerbad696
      @powerbad696 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@alexanderadonyae7937 I watched all the Pistons-vs-Bull games back in the day,the Pistons were CLOBBERING Jordan every time he drove the lane.Some times 2/3 players taking MJ to the ground,surprised MJ never had a serious injury due to these tactics.MJ wasn't SOFT,ne was SMART,Jordan was the face of the nba at that time and sold out the Bulls arena and other teams arenas ( even the bad teams/losing records ) I lived in Philly during these times,got to see Jordan play LIVE 6 times in the regular season.WHAT a joy !!!! LOL.And MJ didn't want to have a career ending injury just because the Pistons couldn't guard him.

    • @imaginethat3026
      @imaginethat3026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@powerbad696 facts

    • @puncho8799
      @puncho8799 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@powerbad696 Facts!!!! 💯🐐

    • @logarius2178
      @logarius2178 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexanderadonyae7937 mj is 6,6 while wilt is 7 feet and he was getting beaten up by at least 2 person every single possession.

  • @Late2Hoops
    @Late2Hoops ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Your videos never fail to be really creative to people who just wanna learn more about certain parts of NBA history and I love that. You really inspired me to start posting video, thank you for that Andy!

  • @tommystrickland6268
    @tommystrickland6268 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Maybe I'm wrong but for the 1st 2 that you said, The thing about the 5 second rule And the 3 second rule To me both of these just seem like logical rules to make To keep the game moving, Also I do not think that the 3 second rule limited the amount of impact that big men have in the game I think they just have to play better rather than standing right in front of the hoop

    • @mve5758
      @mve5758 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There was already a rule which was similar to the three second rule (illegal defense), but it actually applied for a much bigger part of the court; not just the paint. Limiting 'illegal defense' to just the paint made it easier to play defense.

    • @Oppenheimer1967
      @Oppenheimer1967 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mve5758 The old illegal didn’t mean you have to be arms length from a defender. That’s the modern illegal defensive 3.

    • @davidem759
      @davidem759 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The ban of the defensive 3 seconds it's not a logical rule to make; they cancelled the rule to prevent zone defense and make the game more flashy, given that now the paint was open to high flying wing players. Zone defense made kind of a comback in recent years but it's mostly a gimmick and works just because players don't know what to do against it, the paint it's still wide open and it would be easy for a european coach to tear apart the whole scheme.
      The rise of 3pt shooting would've killed zone defense organically and that would've been natural, not some arbitrary rule change.

    • @MrShanester117
      @MrShanester117 ปีที่แล้ว

      They couldn’t stand under the hoop before. The defensive 3 second rule came in to replace the illegal defense rule

    • @david.tousignant20
      @david.tousignant20 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidem759
      Players and coaches in the NCAA and around the globe ("FIBA") are able to break down zones : cuts, motions, ball movements, etc.
      All NBA players competed against zones defenses prior to the NBA.
      In FIBA, zones are not a base defense, they can be use to change the pace of the game, but you don't rely all game on a zone, it would be a huge mistake (because, there are exceptional shooters there).

  • @brucelau2023
    @brucelau2023 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    It would be very interesting to see how the game would’ve been like today if MJ did play under today’s rules , obviously for one thing , there’s challenges , and now the game isn’t physical as it once was back in the early 80s and 90s for that reason alone

    • @spurs_7798
      @spurs_7798 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Imagine playoff-Kawhi with a better athleticism and the best rim-attack of this league… and Kawhi already is dropping 30 on nearly 60% shooting the last time he was in the playoffs

    • @atsk3281
      @atsk3281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would be DeRozen +. Pluss, he would be all Nba defender. Last season, DeRozen ended that "mid range, no 3pt" bullsh.

    • @beatsro5040
      @beatsro5040 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Y’all say this like their was any elite Perimeter defenders in the 80s/90s

    • @Oppenheimer1967
      @Oppenheimer1967 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@beatsro5040 He literally won finals mvp being guarded defensive player of the year Gary Payton….

    • @beatsro5040
      @beatsro5040 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Oppenheimer1967 and what was his shooting% lmao he literally won it because of name value

  • @dylanearl2413
    @dylanearl2413 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    When was Hand Checking Added to the NBA? The NBA implemented Hand Checking during the 2004-2005 season. In efforts to decrease hand-checking, clarify blocking fouls and implement the defensive three-second rule. These rules were added in an attempt to “open up the game” (Official NBA Rules History). Everywhere I look it says the official enforcement of hand check was this year after Jordan's retirement so I am not sure about your info in this video about hand checking being illegal and strictly enforced when you say, I definitely watched 90's basketball and even on the shot against Utah and Russell, Russell is hand checking Jordan to start the play. As I say every source I am finding says 2004 is when the implementation and enforcement of hand checking came about.

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 ปีที่แล้ว

      Handchecking is absolutely overrated and has been debunked so many times, the lies and myths have been exposed: th-cam.com/video/TEF1lVcUDEk/w-d-xo.html

    • @davidschmidt1793
      @davidschmidt1793 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I can clearly remember handchecking in the late 90s. If I'm not mistaken,you couldn't handcheck with both hands anymore,but you could still handcheck. I remember handchecking being banned in the mid 2000s.

    • @JetEngine85
      @JetEngine85 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess you did more research than Andy before he made this video..sadly so far 49k people have seen this and those people will automatically believe him without researching....

    • @dudoban
      @dudoban ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1995 the Hand checking wasn't completely removed you just couldn't put your palm on the player. You could hand check with the back of your hand and forearms. 2005 After Detroit Pisons won the Nba Finals, the Nba completely removed the hand checking and so you couldn't touch the player with your hand at all

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dudoban What the hell is this then: th-cam.com/video/kaSZF5onHco/w-d-xo.html
      Can't touch anyone ? Bullshit

  • @atsk3281
    @atsk3281 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Jordan was underpayed too. Only last years, i remember it was only one, but i assume author is right and it was last two years. But before that, Jordan made about same as Pippen.

    • @n.jigmelhendup5495
      @n.jigmelhendup5495 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Overall in career NBA earnings Pippen made more than Jordan

    • @drewali7
      @drewali7 ปีที่แล้ว

      severely underpaid!!!! he changed the economy by multi-billions!!!!!

    • @hachibei4914
      @hachibei4914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is what I am saying on MJs overall career! His salary before 96 was shitty af. He generated more money from endorsements than the nba itself before. Lol

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not even a Jordan fan but that man and Scottie as well was grossly underpaid.. Chicago and the league made Billions off of Jordan and he wasn't getting the most money possible.. That was and is criminal.. I know Dirk Nowitzki didn't asked for top pay but damn it dude deserved everything.. If Dirk asked Mark Cuban for the most money possible it would have been a crime if Mark said no.. cause clearly Dirk deserves that money more over than anyone..

    • @nonamewillbegiven9989
      @nonamewillbegiven9989 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kenrickeason spoken like a Jordan fan

  • @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
    @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly ปีที่แล้ว +29

    6:26 That might be one of the most profound quotes I’ve ever heard from an athlete.

    • @puncho8799
      @puncho8799 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would hope they would change the rules for a 7’0 playing in the 50-60 i’m not impressed

    • @RobinXlone
      @RobinXlone ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@puncho8799 u act like 7 footers didnt exist in the 60s

    • @nonamewillbegiven9989
      @nonamewillbegiven9989 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're so gullible

    • @ronaldomedina928
      @ronaldomedina928 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I may be wrong, but the NBA did those rule changes primarily for the good of the game. Not to stifle one but to develop the others. I mean that comment by Wilt doesn't seem fair.

    • @TylerHingleton
      @TylerHingleton วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ronaldomedina928 No player in the 90s got the same level of star treatment the way MJ did, especially when the postseason began post-1990 after the last Pistons defeat

  • @brucelau2023
    @brucelau2023 ปีที่แล้ว

    All right another Andy Hoops Saturday video YESSIRRRR

  • @jaypeesalazar9029
    @jaypeesalazar9029 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video!

  • @mitomidou
    @mitomidou ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Knew of these, but the Bulls salary list was shocking. Made me sympathize with Pippen just a little bit. He made less than Harper, Longley and Kukoc? Crazy.

    • @phillipschuman4307
      @phillipschuman4307 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was a time he was only the *6th* highest paid player on his own team, and about 150th 'highest' paid in the league. It was almost criminal.
      AND extremely valuable for the rest of the Bulls roster. He was a perennial all-Defense team selection, and eventually all-NBA first team multiple times as well. By being able to pay him so little AND keep him, the Bulls had a lot of salary room to pay all the role players more. The same was true to a lesser degree for Jordan as well. He didn't make huge money until his last two years (mostly in the $3m a year range all the rest of the time).
      So by the salary rules of the day, the Bulls had their best two players on the cheap, and could load up talent in the other spots.

    • @cobra7282
      @cobra7282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't feel bad for him. He was advised to sign a shorter contract that would have allowed for him to negotiate a more lucrative contract later, but he opted for the longer contract for personal security. Basically he decided not to bet on himself and lost a lot of money because of it.

    • @mitomidou
      @mitomidou 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cobra7282 might have missed this or just not paid attention, but that's some good context right there. Sounds like he played it safe and is having buyer's remorse couple of decades later.

    • @cobra7282
      @cobra7282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mitomidou I believe it was in the last dance, but I have seen this elsewhere as well. He signed a 7 year contract in 1991 before he had reached his best years. Had he simply signed a 3-4 year contract he could have demanded more when he broke out. He especially would have gotten more after that 93-94 season.

    • @mitomidou
      @mitomidou 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cobra7282 Now that makes sense to me now how I missed that. Watched The Last Dance only in the periphery while I was working at home during the dark times. Gonna have to give it another binge watch see what else I missed.

  • @rapgodreloaded9259
    @rapgodreloaded9259 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Andy Hoops you don't mind uploading a video about how the 2004 Detroit Pistons implemented the Kobe Rules?

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason ปีที่แล้ว

      I forgot about that.. yeah..

    • @melvynsngltn27
      @melvynsngltn27 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah shooting the Lakers outbof the finals

  • @X02Overdose
    @X02Overdose ปีที่แล้ว +8

    6:35 he was already dominating before the rule changes 😂😂😂

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Getting owned by Boston and Detroit in the playoffs is not dominating at all, The so called *"incomparable goat"* only dominated in a watered down expansion anti-zone era when the Celtics and Lakers dynasties were gone.

    • @imaginethat3026
      @imaginethat3026 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@dynamic6645 Jordan didnt have an adequate team like those two. Boston was pretty much gone by the time Jordan was 25 and Detroit had to pratically kill him to win. No comparison.

    • @Oppenheimer1967
      @Oppenheimer1967 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dynamic6645 19-21 year old MJ shot 54% FG against zone defenses in college lol.
      MJ’s playoff career vs pistons: 30 ppg , 6.7 rebounds, 6.1 assists, 2.1 steals on 481.% FG, 30.4% 3pt and 81% FT. The bad boys didn’t lock MJ down lol .they just had a better team

    • @puncho8799
      @puncho8799 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dynamic6645 sounds like you’re mad Jordan is the goat 🐐 you must be a LeBron fan 🤣

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Oppenheimer1967 They didn't have a better team, the Bulls even took a 2-1 series lead in the 1989 ECF, what happened next ? lol.

  • @nolaboy5047
    @nolaboy5047 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Folks didn’t realize that the business side of basketball plays a part in why guys didn’t leave the teams that drafted them. That 1999 lockout changed everything from here on out.

    • @___Anakin.Skywalker
      @___Anakin.Skywalker ปีที่แล้ว

      Explain

    • @nolaboy5047
      @nolaboy5047 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@___Anakin.Skywalker as he said in the league didn’t have the luxury taxes etc prior to the 1999 lockout. There was no cap space limit to how much you can give a player but now teams don’t wanna take a luxury tax penalty hit for going over the cap. Which is why you see more player movement now more than ever. Shaq was the first & only star caliber player to move from the team that drafted him in the 1988-1998 timeframe. Since then there is a ton of movement.

    • @onlyrog5
      @onlyrog5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Free agency wasn't available to older generations

    • @nolaboy5047
      @nolaboy5047 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@onlyrog5 before 1988 it wasn’t

  • @LawrenceAugust_
    @LawrenceAugust_ 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Flagrant Foul rule was actually introduced in 1980-81.
    In 1990, they amended it and added two categories for Flagrant Fouls, and imposed stricter penalties, along with fines ($250 if ejected, haha)... and they actually started to enforce the rule which had been around for a decade.
    It wasn't just MJ and the Bulls ... Pat Riley had been complaining for years as well about the Celtics and Pistons playing dirty.

  • @samir5202
    @samir5202 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Andy can u make. A video about the 2016 nba draft and how understated it is

  • @abw1317
    @abw1317 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Without David Stern the NBA wouldn't have lasted

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason ปีที่แล้ว

      That's true! David Stern for all his faults was going to make the NBA Global and he did..

  • @VincentVincent_89
    @VincentVincent_89 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That Wilt line is so legendary

    • @puncho8799
      @puncho8799 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would hope they would change the rules for a 7’0 playing in the 50-60 i’m not impressed

    • @johnnyporter5605
      @johnnyporter5605 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is a legend but he also played in a era where basketball was basically weak

    • @cd2ogz1
      @cd2ogz1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nah.. he may be a legend but was HATING on MJ 😆

    • @johnnyporter5605
      @johnnyporter5605 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cd2ogz1 that's what I meant wilt was hating on MJ

    • @mostmost1
      @mostmost1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's nonsense. Jordan did more scoring before those rules.

  • @benjaminan1183
    @benjaminan1183 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah I remember when they banned Jordan from morphing into a dinosaur mid-game, good times.

  • @przec13r28
    @przec13r28 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andy always comes handy if you wanna learn something new bout the NBA hey

  • @AirRusher1992
    @AirRusher1992 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you make a video about Bill Russell? We all know how great of a player he is but I feel like he deserves a video from you after his passing and having his #6 jersey retired across the NBA.

  • @Itmightbe_katleho4
    @Itmightbe_katleho4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello from South Africa

  • @benpung
    @benpung ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It is clear that in the dates and reason for these rule (hand check and 3pt distance) changes were not for Jordan. It was for the other players.
    Remember that Jordan already averaged more than 30 point before the (1) flagrant rule. He also averaged less per year as his team gets better...

    • @jamesjones8573
      @jamesjones8573 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🧢 lol Isiah Thomas even said mj complained to get the rules changed

  • @kkbaby30
    @kkbaby30 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Wilt had to understand the difference in his era and MJ's, though. The game in the 60s and 70s was frenetic and had well over 100 possessions, but by the 90s, possessions dropped dramatically and so did the points. The game got stale. Wilt's 100 point game was out of 169 team points -- a fast-paced game! But by the mid 90s, it was commonplace to see 80 or even 70 point games. Boring to a lot of the casual fans that MJ's flair brought to the sport.

    • @jahblemanuel7733
      @jahblemanuel7733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great Point

    • @Oppenheimer1967
      @Oppenheimer1967 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True. MJ has much better points per possession numbers than Wilt.

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Oppenheimer1967 Wilt led the league in scoring 7 times and rebounding 11 times, averaged 50 ppg 25 rpg in one season and is one of 2 players to win 3 straight regular season mvps, also Wilt was a much better shotblocker than Jordan, even though they did not record blocks before 1974

    • @stealthiscool
      @stealthiscool ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@dynamic6645 Well obviously he was a better shot blocker with a wingspan of over 7ft but Jordan was probably the best shot blocking guard ever

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stealthiscool Jordan being the *"best shotblocking guard ever"* will not change the fact that Wilt scored just as much as Jordan while being 4 and 8 times the rebounder and shotblocker Jordan was

  • @splashman-7563
    @splashman-7563 ปีที่แล้ว

    ty

  • @sensethevillen
    @sensethevillen ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve never been this early . Hi Andy!

  • @TellenJones
    @TellenJones 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No hand-checking rule in 90s was easily defeated as players stuck their forearms instead of hands on opposing guy's body and argued they were not "hand"-checking. So NBA had to go harder on these rules in 2004 to completely remove any remaining HC tricks left in the game.

  • @Saucedef
    @Saucedef ปีที่แล้ว +5

    MJ IS A BEAST GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME REALLY

    • @ryanr20091
      @ryanr20091 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      wilt was greater let me know how many 50 points he has in comparison to the big dipper

    • @Saucedef
      @Saucedef ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryanr20091 he has more career points....

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ryanr20091 It's a real shame that the NBA did not officially record blocks and steals before 1974, MJ is not the GOAT, and the GOAT debate would be very different if:
      1) Wilt was still alive.
      2) The league recorded steals and blocks before 1974

    • @2nerC9
      @2nerC9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dynamic6645 Kinda true but a lot of it could be dismissed on the less teams and less talent argument

  • @johnpaulgonzalez9016
    @johnpaulgonzalez9016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone send this video to Espn or whatever sports station. This video alone is very insightful to how our game is today because of the past changes

  • @Anonymous27796
    @Anonymous27796 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The NBA heavily favored Michael Jordan because he is the most marketable superstar in his era. No wonder why he became the greatest if not the greatest

    • @puncho8799
      @puncho8799 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He had to deliver you just can’t market a player and not have him play great 🐐

    • @Cavaliers71
      @Cavaliers71 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@puncho8799 u don’t know David stern

    • @Cavaliers71
      @Cavaliers71 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fr. That’s why LeBron tried to do the same thing, but the problem was the nba was already set at a specific player to market

    • @puncho8799
      @puncho8799 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Cavaliers71 No matter how much the NBA market you if your trash it’s going to show

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Cavaliers71 Puncho does got a point.. No matter how set everything is for you if you're trash it will show immediately.. Look at the guys they gave the ball to and say he is the next big thing to only see them last for 3 to 5 years in the league.. *"You can only push people so far, they got to push themselves the rest of the way(Message!)"*

  • @nathanboucher8737
    @nathanboucher8737 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5:05 that was the worst double dribble ive ever seen

    • @nonamewillbegiven
      @nonamewillbegiven ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A image of Thorn and Jordan is a double dribble? I/diot

  • @MMAWatch7
    @MMAWatch7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yesssssir that basic implosion is key

  • @wessimons5028
    @wessimons5028 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Still waiting for Mike Miller video

  • @onedone2011
    @onedone2011 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DAVID STERN WAITED A DECADE TO STOP THE FLAGRANTS; THEN HE WENT STRAIGHT TO FIXING GAMES .....
    REGULAR SEASON HOME TEAMS DON'T GET BLOWN OUT.
    ALL PLAYOFF SERIES GET TO SEVEN GAMES .....

  • @PAOLO-xv1bh
    @PAOLO-xv1bh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LeBron also initiated a rule change. The Anti-Flopping rule

    • @ReverendWin-id9gp
      @ReverendWin-id9gp ปีที่แล้ว

      LeBron is creating a softness.....

    • @ReverendWin-id9gp
      @ReverendWin-id9gp ปีที่แล้ว

      He's showing ppl how to dominate in a. Soft way.....not. Really putting in the soul killing effort.....get ready for a new type of NBA....in the future

    • @lucasgreenwood759
      @lucasgreenwood759 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Harden and curry definitely initiated those rules by kicking there feet forward and falling into defenders to initiate contact and draw fouls.

    • @jacobfarley247
      @jacobfarley247 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ReverendWin-id9gpboohoo

    • @ReverendWin-id9gp
      @ReverendWin-id9gp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jacobfarley247 I've forgotten this post....

  • @Silvereagledude
    @Silvereagledude ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problem today is that the NBA is not as fun to watch….every so often I will try to watch a game but I can’t finish it….

  • @jdkidd6339
    @jdkidd6339 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Remember wilt chamberlain played with short white dudes and Jordan played with athletes...ok

  • @ktvindicare
    @ktvindicare ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I obviously knew the flagrant foul and hand checking, but I totally forgot about the max contract. You're right though, Michael's ridiculous contract was directly responsible for the lockout finally happening in 1999 although to be fair that lockout was a long time coming and had been building towards that for a while.

  • @wgozoria7464
    @wgozoria7464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should reduce by 50% the over the cap Tax when a player is signed by the team that drafted him. Will be easier to retain players.

  • @TempoQuin
    @TempoQuin ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I don't wanna hear shaq and Barkley complain about Harden dribbling and his playstyle, when just like them, he made the league change the rules.

    • @Oppenheimer1967
      @Oppenheimer1967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao

    • @theALMIGHTY987
      @theALMIGHTY987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what u call an impactful player. The league has to tweak & adjust things because of their unique style of play.

    • @onlyrog5
      @onlyrog5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what

    • @nonamewillbegiven9989
      @nonamewillbegiven9989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shutup Harden fan

  • @nbapbaupdate8338
    @nbapbaupdate8338 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jordan Rules
    Bad Boy Pistons 🔥🔥🔥

  • @venturawoods1314
    @venturawoods1314 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why the stats of old school SG like Dr. J and Pistol Pete are so damn impressive.

  • @cbiizzy
    @cbiizzy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great line by Wilt. Definitely the changes made basketball girly and more girly as more changes will come and did come. Time for another league that resembles the NBA of old where it was a man's sport.

  • @Hoopsgaming2k24
    @Hoopsgaming2k24 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Really wouldve been interesting to see mj play with today's rules

    • @BigWillieDillie
      @BigWillieDillie ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I do in 2K and he just dunks on everybody 💀 I had a game where he had 17 in the first half and it was all from cuts or dunks because I would hold him tight so he just does a poster so the Sim says

    • @viktorshade
      @viktorshade ปีที่แล้ว +11

      he also never played against modern defenses, having multiple players guard him and switch on him was illegal when he played and that's how every successful defense currently plays.
      he would be the man still but there's a disconnect about how defense is played now. handchecking is no where as effective as being swarmed by long armed defenders in droves.

    • @kkbaby30
      @kkbaby30 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      MJ played against zones in college so he'd be just fine in today's era. He'd shoot more 3s (when he averaged 3 or more per game his % increased) and driving to the hoop is pretty easy as Centers are now driving from the perimeter with ease. He also was a superb point guard for the last 26 games of the 89' season, avg. 30ppg, over 10 assist and 9 rebounds. Most superstars today run the offense, so MJ's stats wouldn't suffer as they did running a team-offense like the Triangle.

    • @mosstwig3591
      @mosstwig3591 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kkbaby30 nah, he only had a good 3p% when the 3 point line was shortened. He sucks ass at 3s period. He also said he wouldn't work on it. Otherwise you may be correct but he wasn't a superstar in college either. I think he'd be a top 5 player in league still

    • @kkbaby30
      @kkbaby30 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mosstwig3591 not true. You must not have Basketball Reference.

  • @GabrielXander
    @GabrielXander ปีที่แล้ว

    bro this thumbnail go crazy 😭😭

  • @seansean7643
    @seansean7643 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Curry not making it in the 80s is because he's injury prone and the 80s was a more physical era. Add in the difference between eras on health, fitness, and tech. He'd dominate the entire time in the 80s if given the green light to shoot like he does now. He'd just get injured and be out the league sooner than now. He's going to have a 20 year career. If he played in the 80s, he'd be out in 12-14 seasons at least. It would basically just set his prime back. People would still see how great he was, they'd just be saying, "if only he didn't get injured," like T-Mac or Rose. They wouldn't fair well in the 80s either.
    That warriors team in the 80s would be a perfect fit though. If Steph was drafted in 85 within 4 years he'd have Mullin, Richmond, and Tim Hardaway. They'd get Sprewell on his 7th season and hopefully they wouldn't get rid of Mitch 😔. That team would be so good, IDK maybe they'd take the attention off Steph and he wouldn't get injured.

  • @jahjoeka
    @jahjoeka ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jordan had no comeback. I loled to that!

  • @corkystorky
    @corkystorky 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:34 Chamberlain was so assuming with those statements, the rules changed for him were also applied on Jordan, so between the two, it was Jordan who dominated. If you recall the changed rules on Chamberlain, they were so pathetic considering his physique he should still have dominated then.

  • @nonamewillbegiven
    @nonamewillbegiven ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hand checking was banned in 04, not 97

  • @likenem
    @likenem ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm from Detroit, the hand checking rule was stupid, but I agree with the flagrant foul

  • @manchesterunitedno7
    @manchesterunitedno7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The luxury tax need to change. It's unfair to the team that finds success by nurturing homegrown players into superstars, yet still punished the same as the teams with rosters consisting of nothing but nomad superstars, or even bad teams, those neglecting the rookies. There should be some incentives for teams those fall into the first group.

    • @kookybuger
      @kookybuger ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not sure if we'll ever see a happy medium for the luxury tax, there's literal billionaire owners now so I'm sure some will be happy to offer more than other teams which would make others upset. It's also unfair to a team like the Warriors who organically built a great team but could lose solid players due to having a crazy luxury bill. So I'm not sure what the best solution would be in this scenario, they can soften the tax a bit but I'm sure others will take advantage if they do, making exceptions could also be exploited so I'm not sure what they could realistically do.

  • @nbapbaupdate8338
    @nbapbaupdate8338 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jaylen Brown next video Andy Hoops 🙏🙏🙏

  • @omarjaffredtv
    @omarjaffredtv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Pistons called it:
    "THE JORDAN RULES"

  • @ItsDatCajunStuff
    @ItsDatCajunStuff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    David Stern doesn't get enough credit for shaping the NBA into the business it is today.

  • @jeromembeche8907
    @jeromembeche8907 ปีที่แล้ว

    A video on NBA lockouts?

  • @sjivxn26
    @sjivxn26 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that’s when he took it personal 😭😂

  • @JetEngine85
    @JetEngine85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 2004-05 NBA rules says..New rules were introduced to CURTAIL hand checking..I don't understand why NBA had to State the word "CURTAIL" if it was totally banned in 1995..

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 ปีที่แล้ว

      And in this video it shows that handchecking was illegal in the 90s: th-cam.com/video/TEF1lVcUDEk/w-d-xo.html

  • @RandomBurner
    @RandomBurner ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s still funny that there was a Jordan with hair and one with no hair 😂

  • @Chavanun555
    @Chavanun555 ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer the hard fouls and the hand check though.

  • @herickcuevas2344
    @herickcuevas2344 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Luxury Tax is a huge game changer.

  • @wessimons5028
    @wessimons5028 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mitch Richmond too

  • @joanmcerlean7158
    @joanmcerlean7158 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The changes were central to my embrace of basketball, as a fan. I love the grace, the beauty, and the athleticism. That Barkley-like stuff was so not fun to watch. And the game is much more interesting and fun to watch now that “ smaller” players are full participants.

  • @MannyMensah94
    @MannyMensah94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mj and Wilt Chamberlain are the two players that I know changed the rules of the NBA.

  • @SebastianEncina
    @SebastianEncina ปีที่แล้ว

    Comments that it is easier for players to move around the league now, shows a picture of Damian Lillard (Portland Trailblazers, 2012-present)

  • @DKtrek21
    @DKtrek21 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I was skeptical at first when they said that MJ was a walking free throw back in the day but I watched a random game about him playing vs the Lakers in a regular season and boy it was a bore. I'm not hating on the guy but I was convinced that the NBA was protecting their most valuable asset by letting him take those FTs before he gets injured by penetrating.

    • @X02Overdose
      @X02Overdose ปีที่แล้ว +10

      So you watched one game and came to that conclusion?

    • @jasonallen3678
      @jasonallen3678 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Foh

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's how Jordan scored a shitload of points, the refs gave him illusion foul calls sending him to the line, the handchecking and illegal defense calls he and the Bulls got helped them a lot.

    • @benjaminan1183
      @benjaminan1183 ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts

    • @X02Overdose
      @X02Overdose ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dynamic6645 The majority of his FTs came during the Bulls losing seasons

  • @axilmar254
    @axilmar254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah right...MJ's highest output was before the rule changes made in the video!

  • @spurs_7798
    @spurs_7798 ปีที่แล้ว

    GOAT and its not even remotely close

  • @DMitch-ny3jb
    @DMitch-ny3jb ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this has nothing to do with the actual point of this video but ppl always point out how lil Pippen was making without also acknowledging that he did it to himself! How many owners would tell a guy “hey don’t sign this you’ll regret it. You can make way more money later if you do a shorter deal” he signed a 10 year low ball contract. Caused that himself

  • @chrisyang05
    @chrisyang05 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought no charge zone (restricted area) would make the list, but I guess it only affected 1 of Jordan's season with the Bulls, so fair enough.

  • @michaellillis8242
    @michaellillis8242 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also 3 second rule was implemented in 01-02 season and 5 second rule was implemented in 99 but was known as the Barkley rule Jordan had nothing to do with any of these except for Flagrant but it wasn't just him in was league wide

  • @rootsfiddler
    @rootsfiddler ปีที่แล้ว

    What exactly is "hand-checking"?

  • @whlteshadow9570
    @whlteshadow9570 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Andy Hoops not doing his research as usual. Hand checking was banned in the mid 00s dude. If you watch mid to late 90s basketball, you can still see there are clearly instances of hand checking.

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 ปีที่แล้ว

      Handchecking was actually illegal since 1979, it is in the rule book and the footage proves it: th-cam.com/video/TEF1lVcUDEk/w-d-xo.html

    • @victoriagodinez79
      @victoriagodinez79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He just milking mj's popularity for clicks and views.

    • @nonamewillbegiven6847
      @nonamewillbegiven6847 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dynamic6645 troll

    • @cobra7282
      @cobra7282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's true that it was outright banned in 2004, but the NBA had tried to minimize it's impact once in the 80s and again in the mid 90s. Those first two attempts didn't really do much to change it though. You might remember a while in the late 90s early 2000s where it was common to put your forearm in the chest of the dribbler. This was because they had gotten a bit more strict on hand checking and that was the adjustment to it. Then in 2004 they introduced freedom of movement rules and simply went too far the other direction..

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wilt is jealous!! Always has been!! Jordan was still very dominant even before those rule changes came around!! He was going to be great regardless of whether or not those changes were coming!!

    • @ryanr20091
      @ryanr20091 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      wilt averaged 50ppg a game and scored 100 points thats more than some teams lol there's nothing wilt was the most dominant player ever . Jordon is a flashy scorer compared to wilt but he isn't better

    • @shaggydee8845
      @shaggydee8845 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ryanr20091 wilt played against scrubz
      Big O Bill Russell n Kareem r the only onez

    • @andresdelportillo9917
      @andresdelportillo9917 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryanr20091 wilt ain’t average that in the finals where he got disappeared the most , 2-6 finals against plumbers 🤧 lemickey would destroy wilt and that era

    • @dakaraibarton1079
      @dakaraibarton1079 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shaggydee8845 jerry west, bob petit, Walt Bellamy, Elgin Baylor, Nate Thurmond, Walt Frazier, jerry Lucas, Wayne Embry, cliff Hagen, and Richie Guerin. most of these players were all stars and some of them were hofs

    • @dakaraibarton1079
      @dakaraibarton1079 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shaggydee8845 like bro u can't speak on 60s ball if u just think Kareem, wilt, Russel and Robertson were the only good players like have u not heard of JERRY WEST or ELGIN BAYLOR

  • @artoopis410
    @artoopis410 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello from the great nation of Latvia

  • @xcaluhbration
    @xcaluhbration ปีที่แล้ว

    Them gargoyle hands on the thumbnail is OD 🤣

  • @shanestanton8
    @shanestanton8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weren’t there rule changes in response to Wilt Chamberlain or Kareem Abdul-Jabbar?

  • @wuzi7049
    @wuzi7049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think harden is the most recent player to force them to change so many rules. They changed how they called 3s, landing zones, and drives, and had to clarify the gather step. Harden is actually majorly responsible for making the NBA tougher than it has been in decades.

    • @halfshot253
      @halfshot253 ปีที่แล้ว

      took a page from Rodman. Harden is a copy cat

    • @cobra7282
      @cobra7282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean they had to make shit up to allow Harden to keep doing that step back? The other stuff is because he was gaming the system with his flopping and foul baiting so they had to try and take that stuff away so other players don't start doing that same crap.

  • @Manouil_III
    @Manouil_III ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since they added the flagrant foul in 1991 (which is good, the incentive to play the game cleanly) and the hand-checking ban in 1995... defensive 3 sec violation on top, in 2001, is too much. Defense should be a decent collective option, not a joke like it's today. Defensive 3 sec violation could be undone.

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The defensive 3 second violation existed as *"illegal defense"* in the 90's, watch this: th-cam.com/video/6v_PaSn2Ygo/w-d-xo.html

    • @cobra7282
      @cobra7282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Luka has been on record that the D3 rule is largely what makes the NBA an easier league to score in than Euroleague. With the current domination of play away from the basket it would make sense to get rid of the D3 rule and give the defense some sort of an even playing field.

  • @richardsiemion5903
    @richardsiemion5903 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interviewer: What is a flagrant foul ?
    Isiah: A Pistons Foul.
    Love him or hate him.. he’s right.

  • @arielsantos3060
    @arielsantos3060 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda nice to refute Wilt Chamberlain telling MJ did not change the NBA rules and he did

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lol I remember Wilt telling MJ that they didn’t change the rules for him like they did for him!! But they did man!!! The greatest player ever demands adjustments to keep others from copying and/or using similar moves and routes!!

  • @jerrylanary4889
    @jerrylanary4889 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:55 Look at Mark Price, Drazen Petrovic and all 3pt shooters in the 90's. They never had the chance to play their own game. Curry would never get favored in that era of speed and driving to the basket.

    • @mcjr1989
      @mcjr1989 ปีที่แล้ว

      mark price and mahmoud abdul rauf were curry like players in 90s

  • @clix8100
    @clix8100 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was today years old (29) when I found out there wasn't a 3 second defense violation until the 90s

  • @cartierjosh
    @cartierjosh ปีที่แล้ว +7

    old head fans complain about the game going soft but their lord and savior MJ is one of the reasons the game is like it is

    • @puncho8799
      @puncho8799 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Even before the rule changes they still couldn’t stop Jordan from scoring blame the Pistons for being dirty not Jordan the goat 🐐

    • @cartierjosh
      @cartierjosh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@puncho8799 jordan and the bulls whined to the front office and was literally sending tapes😭 david stern had to accommodate his no.1 cash cow and soften up the league a bit for him

    • @puncho8799
      @puncho8799 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cartierjosh It sounds like the Bulls front office was doing that and the Pistons was trying to take Jordan head off every chance they got and he was still scoring 30+ every game on them that’s what you call goat shit 🐐

    • @cartierjosh
      @cartierjosh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@puncho8799 obviously jordan pushed for them to do it. the way his fans tell it you’d think he had no input with the front office and he never made demands like current players 💀

    • @puncho8799
      @puncho8799 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cartierjosh I think the front office seen how the Pistons was trying to take Jordan head off every play and they are the ones that went to David Stern and people just put it on Jordan like he was the one that did it

  • @macewbee
    @macewbee ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes and no it did make the game safe but bring back the handcheck .

  • @seriouslystewarts3537
    @seriouslystewarts3537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid as usual …. We all have opinions but MJ is edged in Stone and history can’t be edited or diluted lol ppl opinions ain’t facts but championships ring bells

    • @nonamewillbegiven
      @nonamewillbegiven ปีที่แล้ว

      Cant say great video when he was wrong about hand checking

  • @onedone2011
    @onedone2011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BILL RUSSELL MADE A RULE:
    AS LONG AS I AM PLAYING .....
    YOU LOSE.

  • @bulls90s
    @bulls90s ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the nba's reason on going back to the original 3pt line for the 97-98 season?
    Imagine the current league on that shortened line...

    • @nonamewillbegiven6847
      @nonamewillbegiven6847 ปีที่แล้ว

      I imagine there would be no difference

    • @cobra7282
      @cobra7282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The only positive that came out of the shorter 3 point line was that teams took more threes. However it only slowed down the pace of the game more because it made spacing even worse. As for what guys would do with that line today, they would probably just stand 3-5 feet behind it for more spacing.

  • @vinf.9233
    @vinf.9233 ปีที่แล้ว

    how about the hack a shaq

  • @demetriuswilliams3671
    @demetriuswilliams3671 ปีที่แล้ว

    My beef is players should stick with their team they sign with until their contact is up aka thin skin KD

  • @kenneths.perlman1112
    @kenneths.perlman1112 ปีที่แล้ว

    The pistons, starting with their coach, were the dirtiest team I’ve seen in any sport.

  • @johndodson3061
    @johndodson3061 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hand checking wasn't banned in 95, they just mended it and it wasn't because Jordan😂2001 zone defense was allowed and defenders were no longer allowed to initiate contact with their hands and forearms. 2004-2005 is when they band hand checking completely. The rules were changed to give the offense the advantage because they said scoring sells tickets.

  • @KhiryTheKonqueror
    @KhiryTheKonqueror ปีที่แล้ว

    Those rules change the nba

  • @wazzup233
    @wazzup233 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In FIBA, the flagrant foul is also known as unsportsmanlike foul but that name is too darn weird. I'll stick on the flagrant foul thing. 😁

  • @jamiepasquariello2652
    @jamiepasquariello2652 ปีที่แล้ว

    3 in the key was around WAAAAAAY before 2001

  • @Chavanun555
    @Chavanun555 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait wait you can go over the cap with no luxery tax? Then whats the fricking point of the cap?