Can I use other oil? DexosD oil 0w20 in 3.0 Duramax Diesel
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- I emailed GM Dexos to see if it was ok to run unapproved engine oil in the 3.0 Duramax Diesel - This is what they said !
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This is straight from Amsoil legal department from my email asking about this Dexos D stuff: Number one the product does not have to be certified to meets the requirements. Number two all a certification is a company paying a lot of money to be on a list. Number three they cannot void warranty for using a non-certified product they have to prove that the product caused the failure.Just some good info and do with what you want with it👍
EXACTLY!
While that all sounds great coming from the company that does NOT have the certification, GM in this example could do whatever they want and who do you think would pay for lawyer fees if they call the non certified oil into question ... certainly would NOT be Amsoil. Put another way, the potential Amsoil customer uses the product at their own peril, however once the warranty is past then at that point it doesn't matter what the vehicle owner uses since there is no coverage regardless. Another example is some who choose to modify their vehicle to a point where their warranty is void ( a diesel emissions delete for example ) but they are aware of the consequences and are willing to take that risk.
@@charlesb4267 I ran your email by Amsoil legal team and you are wrong Amsoil would back you 100%. Also they said GMC would never have a chance in blaming their oil cause it’s better than GMC and that’s in testing. So in other words you are worried about nothing 👍
Take them to court the moment they receive that that notice they will settle within the week. Its not a case of will you win or will they win. Its a case of going to court will be more expensive then just replacing what needs to be replaced.
Just seen Schaffer’s came out with a 0w20 light duty diesel.
I put in Castrol 0w20 turbo diesel in my 23 lz0. It ran noticeably smoother and quieter. Had fantastic luck with Castrol in my vw golf so I didn't hesitate to run it in my minimax
What I have done with other cars is buy the oil that is “required” get the receipt for my records. Then return is and buy what I want to run. Just a little work around.
Nice
I hope the chevy dealer I take my LZ0 uses Dexos D certify oil and I change my oil every 5k miles not doing what GM recommend at 7,500 miles
I do not like the 7500 mile interval either.
Great timing, its time for my oil change, and was going to try the Amsoil for the first time on my D-3.0, but as you mentioned they are not "Dex" certified, and based on the ambiguous email that GM sent you its gray enough for them to have a wide discretion on denying a claim because of the wrong oil .... why give them any opportunity to deny a claim, just not worth the risk.... change your oil every 3-5k with a Dex brand and your good.... thanks for posting...
I’m huge. Amsoil user. I put it in at 1000 miles on my 2023 3.0 Denali as soon as I could. GM can not deny any claim if you use another oil. Covered by Magnuson-moss act 100%! Already confirmed before I started using Amsoil. Amsoil is way above the crud delco stuff gm puts in in every category.
@@donmckenzie5027 What Amsoil should do is offer to pay all legal fees if a manufacturer denies warranty coverage or just offer to pay repair fees if warranty is denied. Everyone always points to Magnuson-Moss act but that requires you paying all the legal fees and taking it to court. Meanwhile you won't have a vehicle the entire time you're fighting it.
@@karlschauff7989 Exactly, and GM or any other manufacturer will wipe their behind with the customer in the process, just not worth the risk .... however if one assumes the risk yourself and pay out of pocket for repairs and not assume some law will somehow protect you, there is nothing wrong with that either. People go to Vegas every day and play a game of risk.
That is gm trying to get around the Magnusson moss warranty act. Run amsoil, they have an excellent product with an excellent warranty program.
What is the Amsoil warranty?
What is the Amsoil warranty program?
@@tekleinsc They back all their oil 100% if it EVER fails.So if GMC tried to say the Amsoil is the reason your engine blew up then Amsoil will back you 100% .I use only Amsoil in everything I own and never ever have had a problem, quite the opposite its incredible oil that exceeds everything out there.
can you please post a link to the maintenance log you use and make it sticky.? thank you
I’ve been using liqui moly top tec 6610 - 22190 sku/part number - hard as heck to get from summit only in the 5 liter bottles….been a fan of liqui moly for a long while now. Used it in my Audi rs4 for some time (220k miles on the odo currently) ….idk if you have any input on this. But I may switch to Mobil 1 just because of it being mobil 1 and ease of availability
Great oil
if you had an engine failure is there a way to tell that you are using the recommended oil? I can make fake receipts of purchased esp x2 and just pair it with my personal maintenance records cant i?
It would be based on your receipts. They wouldn't be able to prove anything from an oil analysis unless the formulation was undeniably wrong for diesel engines or the viscosity way off.
How on earth would they know what brand oil your running?
I’m a huge Amsoil buyer for all my vehicles including my 2023 3.0 Denali 1500, but I decided to buy the Hot Shots 0/20 to give it a try for the heck of it. How do you like it so far Demon?
no complaints so far. I will send it off for analysis at 5000 miles.
That license GM refers to must be PAID for, and Amsoil won't do it. Thats why they're not on the list. Further, if by some wild chance, you had an oil related failure, do you really think the dealer would send off your oil for analysis? As long as the crankcase wasn't dry, the burden of proof is on them to say you did something wrong, which they couldn't do. Amsoil says their oil exceeds the Dexos requirement. They're certainly not gonna lie about it. If it didn't meet or exceed the requirement, they simply wouldn't offer it. Like right now they don't have a compatible oil for my '24 BMW X5, so they don't offer anything at all. When my '25 Yukon AT4 diesel arrives this winter, I'll happily run Amsoil.
Check out the results of several different oil analysis shared : www.duramaxnews.com/post/dexos-d-oil-analysis-comparison
I heard you say " these motors are built with tight tolerances" Do you have those clearances and can you post them please?
I have seen the tolerance numbers and they are very tight.. The later model 3 liter duramax has reduced those tolerances and changed from Aluminum to iron pistons...
I believe the numbers are in this video th-cam.com/video/4cP2ilQ_G74/w-d-xo.html
I know GM says to change like every 7500 miles. When I got mine done at the dealer, they recommend 5000. What is a good interval?I drive about 1600 miles a month
Every 5K brother, and I use the mobil 1 esp x2 from Walmart 5 qts for $27 & the oil color is green. GM’s oil is supplied my ExxonMobil.
@@jaysgarage4623 amen to sticking with Mobil 1
Change when your oil reminder gets to 0% it’s spot on by the way you drive👍
Anyone else notice there are two 5w-30 oils on the list?
Yes, they are merging prior dexos 2 oils. Your truck still takes the viscosity shown in the manual and the cap but all will have dexosD now.
How about HPL 0w-20D ? People seems to like it.
I haven't seen it in use or really heard of it in this application before. Awfully expensive based on my quick google search. I wouldn't mind seeing some used oil analysis of another oil like this.
So does this mean that you are not going to try out the Hot Shot Secrets oil that you have?
I just bought it to try out, looked good to me. I’m a die hard Amsoil but going to try this hotshots out.
Just got my last free oil change at the dealer so I was going to try Hotshots at my next oil change
What is that specific Mobil 1 oil that is dexosD certified?
ESP X2 0W20. You can find it at Walmart in 5qt and 1qt jugs.
@@BrianNC81 found it on e-bay two 5 qt jugs for $53.14 . Thanks !
@@drjhunter pretty good deal, it has the DexosD logo on the front of the bottle. Does not make sure it's not the dexos 1 oil.
@@drjhunter $27.97 per 5qt jug at the Walmarts and 8.78 for a quart. They also have the AC Delco filters for $7.28. $ 53 for 2 seems like a pretty good deal. Cost to do the oil change buying it at Walmart with a filter is $52.81 before tax. (1 5qt jug, 2 one quart bottles, pf66 filter)
@@BrianNC81use PPE filter it’s superior to that pf66👍
Who makes the GM oils?
ExxonMobil.
Exxon Mobil
Well that really stinks, I'm a big Amsoil fan and just put it in my new 2024 Silverado 1500.
@@scottvan6064 Amsoil runs circles around Delco ! You have nothing to worry about!
based on the results I collected, there really isn't an improvement in running one over the other. www.duramaxnews.com/post/dexos-d-oil-analysis-comparison
@@DemonWorks Which goes to show to some degree that what oil one uses is somewhat akin to what religion one practices or could call it what cult. And Amsoil like some other boutique brands has formed a very faithful following and their exclusivity and marketing is certainly a proponent of that rather than actual scientific data like your chart gives a glimpse of. Very interesting about the 5W-30 Rotella as its iron wear is way down from all the other oils. Would be interesting to see a more comprehensive comparison of various diesel rated 5W-30 oils or even 0W-40 oils to compare with the 0W-20 recommended viscosity.
@@charlesb4267 th-cam.com/video/V1bDV0MzCJE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ulmFLJAQ3Wf7iFRm