Please compare the temperature of the two versions of the laptop, because the new version has 2 fans and the old version has 4 fans, we want to see which one has better cooling.
believe it or not... I have both of them... mu Titan GT77 is in the shop for keyboard issues... but the 18HX seem to be a bit cooler... plus more fan response to heat... I'll have to take a more in-depth look...
I sold it a few months ago. My needs changed and I required portability. But I never ended up falling in love with the trackpad. I just got used to it.
It's the best laptop this year I'd say, but not without its flaws (the Cherry MX should be on all keys and the charger cable should be a bit longer). Maybe something to help the user to determine when the touchpad ends. I wish there was a 4k 120HZ OLED touchscreen optoin.
My favorite thing, is the trackpad. I have been using laptops since before trackpads existed, and on day one of the dozens of laptops I have owned with trackpads, the first thing I do, is disable it. With this laptop, it will be the first one where that part of the laptop, is the perfect wrist rest, without an indent. Love it!
I’ve gotten used to it. I’ll cover more in my 30 day review with it. But I still can’t tell where the trackpad begins and ends. It’s really smooth and fluid though and it seems like a bios update may have addressed some of the initial quirks.
I am waiting for the CreatorPro X18 release. It may have a QHD 240hz display option like the Raider 18, along with a non-haptic trackpad, membrane keyboard and a non-gamer chassis aesthetic.
Hows the trackpad 2 weeks out? I am looking between a few laptops but the real crazy expensive Lenovo has a tiny tiny trackpad with fake liquid cooling so it comes down to this one vs the MSI raider which looks a bit worst but is alot cheaper and I didn't mind the trackpad on it
I'm starting to really appreciate the trackpad. It feels different but it's also more responsive. I think they need to work on the palm rejection a but though. But way better than the tiny almost unusable trackpad on the legion 9
Hey dude as nice as the 4k display on that laptop is there is no variable refresh rate no g-sync no high refresh rate and no multi zone and one zone dimming switch like on the 2024 Asus Strix Scar 18’ so it is a more colour accurate mini LED display for productive work than any other laptop out this year and has 2048 dimming zones so when you have it on multi zone for the Mini LED feature the blooming is only noticeable in extreme scenarios and then you have the one zone switch in Asus software which really makes a difference for productive work and no other brand has this dimming zone switch feature for their mini LED displays.
Is there some other option without the down you mention but having these specs 64 gb ram 24 core cpu , 16gb graphic card and 2 tb ssd with 18 inch qhd screen?? The best gaming laptop in 2024??
I feel ya on that I test laptops as well and I had the gt77 last year the razer 16 blade I ended up with the legion 9 4090 and upped the ram to 6400 mhz and it rips through everything. I do undervolt on all the laptops as well. I'm a sucker for OLED panel but I do love super bright mini led panels and hate blooming. I also had the scar with the 4090 16 one with mini led. That thing really punched hard but hated the numlock on touchpad. I had to disable it in device manager.
Question... What the difference between msi Titan 18 HX A14VIG and msi Titan 18 HX A14VHG? I search the specs on the internet and it all looks the same
I hope MSI sees this. Second comment so far saying that. It's a real shame. I can live without it since I have a monitor and TV. But it's a really big bummer. Especially since it's only 120hz.
btw can i ask a quick question? i just realized that there was no ethernet port for razer blade16, can i buy a adapter for it? what are those things called? many thanks@@consumertechwarehouse
I too went with the 2024 blade 16 i9/4090/64gb. I have every previous generation of the MSI GT titan line but this titen 18 is a disappointment.. Why are the thermals worst then the 77? Because they took 2 fans away first off. MSI should of had gsync on this model its kind of ridiculous asking for that price and the ram being stuck at 4000MHz. I tested the 2024 Raider GE68HX 14 VIG and on that you are actually able to clock the ram in advanced bios to 5600MHz with 64GB of ram. One last thing to say here is I did a lot of research on this new titan 18 and actually discovered it is using an identical motherboard to the upcoming Raider 18 which I did a write up on reddit about. I am willing to bet the raider 18's all copper heatpipe design will out perform this untested new vapor chamber. The vapor chamber used on the titan 18 was the same one that was used on the non production test models with no changes. I think I will wait until the 5090 drops or could pray MSI will put a 8900m XT if amd makes on for its future.
I love your review & the MSI Titan 18 HX! Thank you! The only downgrade from last year's Titan is the removal of the Mini DisplayPort, which is super important for me personally. Did you by any chance manage to ask MSI why they removed it & whether they plan on bringing it back in future Titans? We lost the port & it was not replaced by a third Thunderbolt 4 port to make up for that. Thank you once again.
I was wondering if you are still using this as your main system? And Why if so / not so. Looks like a really nice machine. And I think I have an idea why they aren't using Nvidia Optimus to Gsync. In the past couple Very high end Machines I have bought the Blade 16 with 4090 and Intel 13th gen and Also Asus Strix 17 with 3080 ti both have issues when using multi display and using Optimus Dynamic switch there are noticeable lags when win+tabing (not alt+tab) / animation lag issues. When using Discrete only everything is fine. Also both machines have not so great 1 percent lows. I have a feeling something may be attributed to this. I've seen a few reviews for the Titan 18 which does not haver these features and the 1 percent lows are incredible (Very even GPU timeGraph). Think I will go with Titan on my next machine.
Yeah someone pointed out that Gizmo slip Tech got great 1% lows. I didn't really watch his channel because I don't have time to watch videos that long but he does detailed work. I absolutely loved mine. I still regret seeking it sometimes. But for me the short power cable, uncomfortable on lap and she size made me move on
Damn! I forgot to talk about fan noise. That was on extreme performance, and it's about as loud as any other laptop. But in many situations, playing on balanced is the way to go, and it's much quieter. And silent, it limits the GPU to 90 watts, so in some situations, that would be perfect
I have this one and it's great. The 9i is amazing is well. If you want a 16 inch I think the 9i is a great option. As for razer blade. My buddy has the new one and he says the cooling is phenomenal on it compared to last year's so that's great.
@@moecharms Thanks, Mate! I've researched a bit and got that there is only Razer Blade is available in the country where I live now... so, now I'm gathering more info about blade 16 2024 :)
@@korober That's a great option. As long as you don't get nothing Asus. Razer has best speakers and build quality and the cooling is so much more improved. Amazing screens too mate. Enjoy!
5600 mhz. The 2024 titan can run at that speed with 128gb. The 2023 version is limited to 3600mhz. It was an Intel bottleneck that was resolved this year.
I’m not the biggest fan of it. It’s not as sensitive and overall as responsive as a regular trackpad. It became extremely noticeable since I got that blade 18 in recently where that trackpad is near perfect.
and I must say advanced optimus causes problems with the Nvidia drivers so its actually better not to have it and deal with restarts.atleast that's the experience I have gotten on laptops with it. G sync on the other hand can introduce flicker on lower fps on heavier titles. So missing those features shouldn't be deal breaker and in some cases deal maker haha
Don’t forget, it’s intended as a desktop replacement. It’s not really practical in that sense when it becomes a laptop. So it’s up to the individual to make that decision on purchase, but there must look into it not only for functionality and software development and what they’re gonna use it for. That includes its future. You just don’t go out and purchase certain item unless you have enough money and you know exactly what you’re going to use this for it’s not for the average person. You don’t need to look at this display on this computer it’s nice to have. But you’re better off connecting to a monitor or a TV4K. Like I said before, it’s up to the individual usage.
The "fully" maxxed version comes with 192 GB of RAM because it seems Crucial makes a 42GB DDR5 5600. I was hoping you would disassemble the laptop and give us a depth tolerance measurement for the Gen 5 SSD bay, because absolutely no one else has done that, and Gen 5 SSDs run HOT, and so hot, I'm super worried that just because this has a Gen5 SSD slot, it might not be able to actually run a Gen 5 SSD because no room for heatsink, and maybe a case mod will need to happen by cutting heatsink shaped hole on bottom where Gen 5 SSD bay is, and keeping the machine propped up on a top kit laptop cooler like the llano cooler because heatsink alone would even with full heatsink by cutting hole in bottom of case might not even be enough to cool a gen 5 SSD without good airflow by a top kit cooler. Anyway, thx. :)
Hi, I don't play any First person shooter games, I only play games like FIFA and ETS2, can you please tell me if I need gsync to play those games, or will I be ok with this laptop and no gsync?
I think gsync would have still been very nice to have. But for those games, you may not notice much screen tearing if at all. Also, if you lock the frame rate to 30, 60, or 120 and turn on vsync you should be fine. Gsync works well when fps isn't consistent, like if it's jumping up and down all the time. Those games aren't demanding so you shouldn't have any issues
@@consumertechwarehouse Ok, thanks for the quick response, I really like this laptop and I've been considering purchasing it, but not having Gsync is the only thing holding me back
On the power brick when you plug it in the back. The actual brick end has another connection.. it’s that connection that you can extend by getting a longer cord probably available from Amazon. doesn’t have to be anything special just to let you know hope this helps. Appreciate the review thanks again. Take care of your friends and family and bye for now.
No. I sold my desktop 2 years ago. I think at some point, I'll get another desktop and get a smaller laptop when I'm able to leave the house more. Probably in 3 to 4 years.
There is also Alienware M18 R2 18" laptop with the same power. Only difference is that MSI has 128 GB of RAM wile Alinware has 64 GB. But MSI cost by over $1000 more!
Amazing review and was thinking about it, but that screen. That is really bad for that price. Especially in EU. I am so glad you mentioned it. Thank you for such a video! Legend
You can use your mouse instead of the trackpad. It’s more convenient. Most people use the mouse anyway just a hint.. I understand where you’re coming from, though
How is it the most powerful laptop when its missing Essential technologies. Like gsync? I would love to see direct showdown comparison between this and the new razer blade eighteen! Seeing a company copy razers wallpaper and alianwares rgb trackpad is just trying to keep up with the compatition. Is it nice yes. But I don't see any innovation or anything new. Maybe if it came with a free claw or msi controller. That could sweeten the deal. I personally love M s I. But I hate screen tearing. And to have something this nice not function properly could result in a real headache literally
Hey, I've seen a lot of people talking about this online. I really hope MSI takes notice and starts putting G-Sync in all their high-end gaming laptops.
Another thing to take note as it seams like big bulky laptops are really becoming a thing if the past. Here in the beginning of twenty twenty four With external solutuons and new forum factors like tint mode and drawing mode its almost a crime to have a powerful machine that just cant flex like the rest! Imagine everyone with their sleek macbooks and surface studios. And folding screens. And then you pulled this out of your Backpack with all this flashy r g b. You gotta wonder if this laptop gonna get business done or is it just a toy. For a non serious person. There's not gonna get any work done because they're gaiming. Although everything is built around this new eighteen inch display. That innovation didn't come from m s I. But rather display manufacturers. And other companies like razor are also putting out eighteen inch displays But without touch tent and draw mode. It's definitely a gamer oriented themed laptop. And I think the biggest problem is the fact that if I had bought this laptop I would have just assumed that I came With g sync. It's probably just because the display is too new. Doesn't been added to the g sync Compatible devices library yet. So maybe with fingers crossed it will change But until then. I doubt they will put a sticker on the box. That says does not come with g sync.😢
I like the flatter "professional" look you were referring to, but I still like the design of the Raider GE78HX & so from last yr more. I don't like the new front rgb bar & the red plastic parts on the MSI 18 HX A14V, & I don't like the blue plastic parts & rgb gone from the the front that was replaced with an rgb touch pad. Can we just NOT have a touchpad & save the space for performance components or airflow space (maybe more heat pipes or something) INSTEAD? ? So yh, I would rather buy last years models like the GE Raider 78HX for example & these new ones isn't even a significant/noticeable performance jump cpu wise & we still have the same gpu's.... Hard Pass. 7 outa 10.
It's like everyone who shows gameplay with these laptops always show cyberpunk, doom, and tomb raider, ....show us Gta online, Uncharted, and Modern Warfare.
I specifically use cyberpunk because it’s one of the few games that pushes both the CPU and GPU. Also I have a lot of historical data from those older games to help with comparisons. Also I only test games with built in benchmarks. I used to test more, but without benchmarks it’s hard to consistently test games. And in my later videos, I started including modern warfare.
The amount of engineering gives in to make such a beautiful machine, but them gimp it with a 4k display and no vrr support. If it had a 2k display and vrr, this would be my new machine this year. As is, Asus get my money again. Why do msi keep gimping there machines like this. Such a waste
Nah, it's not in the benchmarks. But everything feels way more responsive than my GT77. I think it's the faster RAM. Working on the s24 ultra next. Hopefully, I'm not too late. A bunch of reviews are out already.
@@consumertechwarehouse also ram frequencies 3600 mhz is said to be working, Is this the case with you? Is it possible to increase these frequencies from the bios setting?
Damn I didn't cover cooling. It does better. Remember we're getting 270 watts now and they increased the thermal limit has been increased to 99 from 95.
@@consumertechwarehouse You did not cover cooling. Which made me think you were hiding something. I forgot about the extra watts.Any chance you can test at max watts and gt77 250 watts and let us know so we can see the difference.
@MarkWasTaken yeah. That’s what I love about pc. Tons of choices. It’s perfect for me in my stage of life currently. I’m not a student, I won’t be traveling much for a while with 3 young children, and when I use it, I want a big screen since my office is a makeshift guest room.
A downgrade from the body design of the previous model that made it uniquely MSI. This is a legion body type and it's a clean look but at the same time it just looks cheap.
Yeah I agree. This doesn't have any of the MSI design language. But in person it looks really clean and pleasing to look at. There's little MSI touches throughout though. The marketing on this is for both creators and gamers. So maybe they're trying to appeal to both
This is the review I was waiting on! Voted for this!!
Please compare the temperature of the two versions of the laptop, because the new version has 2 fans and the old version has 4 fans, we want to see which one has better cooling.
believe it or not... I have both of them... mu Titan GT77 is in the shop for keyboard issues... but the 18HX seem to be a bit cooler... plus more fan response to heat... I'll have to take a more in-depth look...
I have an unhealthy obsession with this laptop. The price and lack of g-sync are both deal breakers for me, but I'm just fascinated by this thing.
What's g sync?
Should I get it ? Or a desktop ?
Desktop
Good do you feel about the track pad bnow? :)
I sold it a few months ago. My needs changed and I required portability. But I never ended up falling in love with the trackpad. I just got used to it.
It's the best laptop this year I'd say, but not without its flaws (the Cherry MX should be on all keys and the charger cable should be a bit longer). Maybe something to help the user to determine when the touchpad ends.
I wish there was a 4k 120HZ OLED touchscreen optoin.
My favorite thing, is the trackpad. I have been using laptops since before trackpads existed, and on day one of the dozens of laptops I have owned with trackpads, the first thing I do, is disable it. With this laptop, it will be the first one where that part of the laptop, is the perfect wrist rest, without an indent. Love it!
it really sucks for left-click dragging and dropping!!!
too much dropping in the wrong place...
How do you feel about the track pad now?
I’ve gotten used to it. I’ll cover more in my 30 day review with it. But I still can’t tell where the trackpad begins and ends. It’s really smooth and fluid though and it seems like a bios update may have addressed some of the initial quirks.
I'm still waiting for your long term review! :) I'm about to buy this laptop and I would like to see your FB
What is the speed of the Ethernet port on the back?
I am waiting for the CreatorPro X18 release. It may have a QHD 240hz display option like the Raider 18, along with a non-haptic trackpad, membrane keyboard and a non-gamer chassis aesthetic.
Hows the trackpad 2 weeks out? I am looking between a few laptops but the real crazy expensive Lenovo has a tiny tiny trackpad with fake liquid cooling so it comes down to this one vs the MSI raider which looks a bit worst but is alot cheaper and I didn't mind the trackpad on it
I'm starting to really appreciate the trackpad. It feels different but it's also more responsive. I think they need to work on the palm rejection a but though. But way better than the tiny almost unusable trackpad on the legion 9
I'm torn between this, the msi raider ge76 or the legion pro 7
Hey dude as nice as the 4k display on that laptop is there is no variable refresh rate no g-sync no high refresh rate and no multi zone and one zone dimming switch like on the 2024 Asus Strix Scar 18’ so it is a more colour accurate mini LED display for productive work than any other laptop out this year and has 2048 dimming zones so when you have it on multi zone for the Mini LED feature the blooming is only noticeable in extreme scenarios and then you have the one zone switch in Asus software which really makes a difference for productive work and no other brand has this dimming zone switch feature for their mini LED displays.
Is there some other option without the down you mention but having these specs 64 gb ram 24 core cpu , 16gb graphic card and 2 tb ssd with 18 inch qhd screen?? The best gaming laptop in 2024??
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So don't buy it lol no one gives af mate
This one or Asus Strix Scar 18 2024, what do you think?
This one but asus scar good too
@@venusvipare asus laptops upgradable with ram and ssd cards?
That laptop is sick🔥🔥🔥🔥
Can you turn off the touchpad RGB lighting on this laptop? I use a mouse all the time. And the lighting distracts a lot. I would love to turn it off
I feel ya on that I test laptops as well and I had the gt77 last year the razer 16 blade I ended up with the legion 9 4090 and upped the ram to 6400 mhz and it rips through everything. I do undervolt on all the laptops as well. I'm a sucker for OLED panel but I do love super bright mini led panels and hate blooming. I also had the scar with the 4090 16 one with mini led. That thing really punched hard but hated the numlock on touchpad. I had to disable it in device manager.
Nice s24 ultra as well I've had that for about a week I went with the green one lol. Couldn't get into the pixel 8 pro. I love flat displays
Question... What the difference between msi Titan 18 HX A14VIG and msi Titan 18 HX A14VHG? I search the specs on the internet and it all looks the same
What Samsung case is that?
Nice review, now i can work up in the morning, knowing the kind of power to behold, TRUTH.
the only reason I didnt buy this it's because MSI doesnt have G-sync, i went for blade 16 OLED
I hope MSI sees this. Second comment so far saying that. It's a real shame. I can live without it since I have a monitor and TV. But it's a really big bummer. Especially since it's only 120hz.
btw can i ask a quick question? i just realized that there was no ethernet port for razer blade16, can i buy a adapter for it? what are those things called? many thanks@@consumertechwarehouse
I too went with the 2024 blade 16 i9/4090/64gb. I have every previous generation of the MSI GT titan line but this titen 18 is a disappointment.. Why are the thermals worst then the 77? Because they took 2 fans away first off. MSI should of had gsync on this model its kind of ridiculous asking for that price and the ram being stuck at 4000MHz. I tested the 2024 Raider GE68HX 14 VIG and on that you are actually able to clock the ram in advanced bios to 5600MHz with 64GB of ram. One last thing to say here is I did a lot of research on this new titan 18 and actually discovered it is using an identical motherboard to the upcoming Raider 18 which I did a write up on reddit about. I am willing to bet the raider 18's all copper heatpipe design will out perform this untested new vapor chamber. The vapor chamber used on the titan 18 was the same one that was used on the non production test models with no changes. I think I will wait until the 5090 drops or could pray MSI will put a 8900m XT if amd makes on for its future.
Is this Mini-LED screen better than Razer Blade 16?
I love your review & the MSI Titan 18 HX! Thank you! The only downgrade from last year's Titan is the removal of the Mini DisplayPort, which is super important for me personally. Did you by any chance manage to ask MSI why they removed it & whether they plan on bringing it back in future Titans? We lost the port & it was not replaced by a third Thunderbolt 4 port to make up for that. Thank you once again.
No G-Sync or VRR would be a deal breaker for me. I hope the Razer Blade 18 2024 will have G-Sync with the 4K 165Hz MiniLED Display.
It is a 4k 165hz IPS display not a Mini LED display.
@@Parky-pm2sg oh okay, then the RB18 ist not interesting anymore
Is that official and written in stone then? Far as I know Razer haven't confirmed that yet...@@Parky-pm2sg
Question Can you put 4TB or 8TB SSD storage on drive C?
I was wondering if you are still using this as your main system? And Why if so / not so. Looks like a really nice machine. And I think I have an idea why they aren't using Nvidia Optimus to Gsync. In the past couple Very high end Machines I have bought the Blade 16 with 4090 and Intel 13th gen and Also Asus Strix 17 with 3080 ti both have issues when using multi display and using Optimus Dynamic switch there are noticeable lags when win+tabing (not alt+tab) / animation lag issues. When using Discrete only everything is fine. Also both machines have not so great 1 percent lows. I have a feeling something may be attributed to this. I've seen a few reviews for the Titan 18 which does not haver these features and the 1 percent lows are incredible (Very even GPU timeGraph). Think I will go with Titan on my next machine.
Yeah someone pointed out that Gizmo slip Tech got great 1% lows. I didn't really watch his channel because I don't have time to watch videos that long but he does detailed work. I absolutely loved mine. I still regret seeking it sometimes. But for me the short power cable, uncomfortable on lap and she size made me move on
thanks for the review man....what you think about fans noise (6:50)?
Damn! I forgot to talk about fan noise. That was on extreme performance, and it's about as loud as any other laptop. But in many situations, playing on balanced is the way to go, and it's much quieter. And silent, it limits the GPU to 90 watts, so in some situations, that would be perfect
I'm watching your review on that very same laptop... $6k later (Ouch!) ... p.s. "I HATE THE TRACK-PAD"
Thanks for your review 👍 i didn't find anything interesting for me on the laptop. I will continue to gathering info about razer blade 16 and legion 9i
I'll do more coverage on the blade 16.
I have this one and it's great. The 9i is amazing is well. If you want a 16 inch I think the 9i is a great option. As for razer blade. My buddy has the new one and he says the cooling is phenomenal on it compared to last year's so that's great.
@@moecharms Thanks, Mate! I've researched a bit and got that there is only Razer Blade is available in the country where I live now... so, now I'm gathering more info about blade 16 2024 :)
@@korober That's a great option. As long as you don't get nothing Asus. Razer has best speakers and build quality and the cooling is so much more improved. Amazing screens too mate. Enjoy!
@moecharms I want a blade but I'm needing a laptop in a 2150 budget.
What does your Ram run at? Mines is at 3600MHZ and my CPU Timespy score is in the low 14,000 (terrible for Raptor lake) 😏
5600 mhz. The 2024 titan can run at that speed with 128gb. The 2023 version is limited to 3600mhz. It was an Intel bottleneck that was resolved this year.
I have the Titan 18 hx, but it’s running at 3600MHZ. Did yours run stock at 5600mhz or is there a setting that you changed?
@@consumertechwarehouse yes ram works at 3600 mhz . How can we increase this?
How does the track pad feel after 2 months of use?
I’m not the biggest fan of it. It’s not as sensitive and overall as responsive as a regular trackpad. It became extremely noticeable since I got that blade 18 in recently where that trackpad is near perfect.
Hi I just bought one but noticed that the "H" on the keyboard sounds different than the rest of the keys, is that normal?
O I don’t have that issue. Sorry.
put the brick under the back of the laptop create air space
That may be outweighed by the heat the brick will put off
A crazy laptop indeed. Very cool. I feel like I would have to sell some body parts to afford it though!
😆😆
How much did yours cost as you spec'd it
It was expensive. $5400.
looks awesome! much improved from. last year. How much you ended up spending on it? Good review btw
and I must say advanced optimus causes problems with the Nvidia drivers so its actually better not to have it and deal with restarts.atleast that's the experience I have gotten on laptops with it. G sync on the other hand can introduce flicker on lower fps on heavier titles. So missing those features shouldn't be deal breaker and in some cases deal maker haha
...a lot lol. $5400. But it's going to be my photo/video editing and gaming machine. Hopefully I push out a lot more videos this year to justify it.
Don’t forget, it’s intended as a desktop replacement. It’s not really practical in that sense when it becomes a laptop. So it’s up to the individual to make that decision on purchase, but there must look into it not only for functionality and software development and what they’re gonna use it for. That includes its future. You just don’t go out and purchase certain item unless you have enough money and you know exactly what you’re going to use this for it’s not for the average person. You don’t need to look at this display on this computer it’s nice to have. But you’re better off connecting to a monitor or a TV4K. Like I said before, it’s up to the individual usage.
I have the GT77 HX, is it that much better than last years model in your opinion
Yes it’s much faster and better screen
The "fully" maxxed version comes with 192 GB of RAM because it seems Crucial makes a 42GB DDR5 5600.
I was hoping you would disassemble the laptop and give us a depth tolerance measurement for the Gen 5 SSD bay, because absolutely no one else has done that, and Gen 5 SSDs run HOT, and so hot, I'm super worried that just because this has a Gen5 SSD slot, it might not be able to actually run a Gen 5 SSD because no room for heatsink, and maybe a case mod will need to happen by cutting heatsink shaped hole on bottom where Gen 5 SSD bay is, and keeping the machine propped up on a top kit laptop cooler like the llano cooler because heatsink alone would even with full heatsink by cutting hole in bottom of case might not even be enough to cool a gen 5 SSD without good airflow by a top kit cooler.
Anyway, thx. :)
Hi, I don't play any First person shooter games, I only play games like FIFA and ETS2, can you please tell me if I need gsync to play those games, or will I be ok with this laptop and no gsync?
I think gsync would have still been very nice to have. But for those games, you may not notice much screen tearing if at all. Also, if you lock the frame rate to 30, 60, or 120 and turn on vsync you should be fine. Gsync works well when fps isn't consistent, like if it's jumping up and down all the time. Those games aren't demanding so you shouldn't have any issues
@@consumertechwarehouse Ok, thanks for the quick response, I really like this laptop and I've been considering purchasing it, but not having Gsync is the only thing holding me back
On the power brick when you plug it in the back. The actual brick end has another connection.. it’s that connection that you can extend by getting a longer cord probably available from Amazon. doesn’t have to be anything special just to let you know hope this helps. Appreciate the review thanks again. Take care of your friends and family and bye for now.
Hmm you prefer this over the Blade 16 it seems? Why?
They're both different machines. Right now. In the stage of where I am, a desktop replacement suits me more since I don't value portability right now.
You don’t have a PC I guess? Then MSI makes sense yeah
No. I sold my desktop 2 years ago. I think at some point, I'll get another desktop and get a smaller laptop when I'm able to leave the house more. Probably in 3 to 4 years.
absolutely clean!
will the hinges survive after a year?
I think so... (I'm looking at them now, they seem quite sturdy)
You have my dream setup with this laptop! Congratulations! 🎉 By the way, are you selling your older gt77 then?
Yea. I have it up for sale on ebay.
There is also Alienware M18 R2 18" laptop with the same power. Only difference is that MSI has 128 GB of RAM wile Alinware has 64 GB. But MSI cost by over $1000 more!
this costs 5000-5500 and
no gsync and not even oled?
what the hell were they thinking????
The mini led in some ways are better than OLED. But no gsync is a travesty.
@@consumertechwarehouse
That bloom thou is terrible for coding :/
Still cant beat a bright oled imo
Amazing review and was thinking about it, but that screen. That is really bad for that price. Especially in EU. I am so glad you mentioned it. Thank you for such a video! Legend
Yeah. I bet the screen will be a letdown for most. Gsync in 2024 should be mandatory
You can use your mouse instead of the trackpad. It’s more convenient. Most people use the mouse anyway just a hint.. I understand where you’re coming from, though
thanks buying one now
Great. Hope you like it. If you were interested in buying mine, it’ll be up for sale soon. I need a 16 inch for portability
How is it the most powerful laptop when its missing Essential technologies. Like gsync? I would love to see direct showdown comparison between this and the new razer blade eighteen! Seeing a company copy razers wallpaper and alianwares rgb trackpad is just trying to keep up with the compatition. Is it nice yes. But I don't see any innovation or anything new. Maybe if it came with a free claw or msi controller. That could sweeten the deal. I personally love M s I. But I hate screen tearing. And to have something this nice not function properly could result in a real headache literally
Hey, I've seen a lot of people talking about this online. I really hope MSI takes notice and starts putting G-Sync in all their high-end gaming laptops.
Another thing to take note as it seams like big bulky laptops are really becoming a thing if the past. Here in the beginning of twenty twenty four With external solutuons and new forum factors like tint mode and drawing mode its almost a crime to have a powerful machine that just cant flex like the rest! Imagine everyone with their sleek macbooks and surface studios. And folding screens. And then you pulled this out of your Backpack with all this flashy r g b. You gotta wonder if this laptop gonna get business done or is it just a toy. For a non serious person. There's not gonna get any work done because they're gaiming. Although everything is built around this new eighteen inch display. That innovation didn't come from m s I. But rather display manufacturers. And other companies like razor are also putting out eighteen inch displays But without touch tent and draw mode. It's definitely a gamer oriented themed laptop. And I think the biggest problem is the fact that if I had bought this laptop I would have just assumed that I came With g sync. It's probably just because the display is too new. Doesn't been added to the g sync Compatible devices library yet. So maybe with fingers crossed it will change But until then. I doubt they will put a sticker on the box. That says does not come with g sync.😢
Asus Zephyrus G16 2024 support gsynch, oled 240hz
And poor TGP as well 😢 g16 amazing laptop for light workload, not games
I like the flatter "professional" look you were referring to, but I still like the design of the Raider GE78HX & so from last yr more. I don't like the new front rgb bar & the red plastic parts on the MSI 18 HX A14V, & I don't like the blue plastic parts & rgb gone from the the front that was replaced with an rgb touch pad. Can we just NOT have a touchpad & save the space for performance components or airflow space (maybe more heat pipes or something) INSTEAD? ?
So yh, I would rather buy last years models like the GE Raider 78HX for example & these new ones isn't even a significant/noticeable performance jump cpu wise & we still have the same gpu's.... Hard Pass. 7 outa 10.
Sorry MSI no g-sync at this price level?Absolutely unacceptable for me!
Great review... Thanks
You’re not wrong man. Really sucks it’s not in here.
I bought Asus scar 18, for one reason, the support of Asus is way much better where I am
The Hindenburg trackpad
The World may never know!
It needs more RGB :D
Looks like new Intel chip is eating up the power budget.
I have an updated video coming out. I updated the bios and make some tweaks on Intel XTU. Very impressed now
$5,333 for a damn laptop
just add in gaming next time
It's like everyone who shows gameplay with these laptops always show cyberpunk, doom, and tomb raider, ....show us Gta online, Uncharted, and Modern Warfare.
I specifically use cyberpunk because it’s one of the few games that pushes both the CPU and GPU. Also I have a lot of historical data from those older games to help with comparisons. Also I only test games with built in benchmarks. I used to test more, but without benchmarks it’s hard to consistently test games.
And in my later videos, I started including modern warfare.
Will take me 5-6 months of salary to buy it 😅😂
Really really really really really really really really really really
The amount of engineering gives in to make such a beautiful machine, but them gimp it with a 4k display and no vrr support.
If it had a 2k display and vrr, this would be my new machine this year. As is, Asus get my money again.
Why do msi keep gimping there machines like this. Such a waste
Not much improvement from previous generation 🤔
Nah, it's not in the benchmarks. But everything feels way more responsive than my GT77. I think it's the faster RAM. Working on the s24 ultra next. Hopefully, I'm not too late. A bunch of reviews are out already.
@consumertechwarehouse9381 reviews are out but people like myself are interested in exynos 2400 models vs snapdragon 8gen3.
@@consumertechwarehouse also ram frequencies 3600 mhz is said to be working, Is this the case with you? Is it possible to increase these frequencies from the bios setting?
Gt77 is better for me
What do you like better about the gt77?
@@consumertechwarehouse aesthetics , 16:9 , 144,hz , and better 4k performance ( titan 18 is 4k+ = less performance)
@@consumertechwarehouse estetic is better , 16:9 , 144hz and 4k vs 4k+ only less performance
It cools significantly worse 5hwn the gt77. Not worth it.
Damn I didn't cover cooling. It does better. Remember we're getting 270 watts now and they increased the thermal limit has been increased to 99 from 95.
@@consumertechwarehouse You did not cover cooling. Which made me think you were hiding something. I forgot about the extra watts.Any chance you can test at max watts and gt77 250 watts and let us know so we can see the difference.
cool
Dude u got a lot of money my monthly salary is 6000USD I am so poor 😢😢
Bro that’s really good money. I sell most of the stuff I review or return them. I’m not as rich as it appears.
@@consumertechwarehouse just kidding man i can buy right now
@@consumertechwarehouse just kidding bro i can buy it right away enjoy man
one hundred celsius hahah, cpu bye bye after 1 year
New bios restricted temps to 96. Small decrease in performance more
Bad way to presnte the new product ..poor information
I think it was good
The guy was genuine about the product,how many reviewers telling the truth aboug they're products? ,you are an idiot.
Why is he speaking from his nose 👃?
I don't always. I don't remember but I think I was sick in this video.
No Gsync is a big blow. 👎💩
I agree. Big blunder
Such an ugly laptop 🤢
I like the look a lot. It's nit really photogenic though
@@consumertechwarehouseI’m just not a fan of chunky laptops, I’d never own one 😂
@MarkWasTaken yeah. That’s what I love about pc. Tons of choices. It’s perfect for me in my stage of life currently. I’m not a student, I won’t be traveling much for a while with 3 young children, and when I use it, I want a big screen since my office is a makeshift guest room.
A downgrade from the body design of the previous model that made it uniquely MSI. This is a legion body type and it's a clean look but at the same time it just looks cheap.
Yeah I agree. This doesn't have any of the MSI design language. But in person it looks really clean and pleasing to look at. There's little MSI touches throughout though. The marketing on this is for both creators and gamers. So maybe they're trying to appeal to both