ไม่สามารถเล่นวิดีโอนี้
ขออภัยในความไม่สะดวก
Not a french cleat system for organizing hand tools
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มี.ค. 2014
- My way of organizing hand tools. Make a holder for each tool and screw them to a nice piece of plywood. More flexible than french cleats, and the few extra holes over time are still less distracting.
woodgears.ca/to...
Very Nice Matthias! Those hand plane holsters are beautiful!
I will say one of the advantages I have found to the french cleat system is the ability to grab a whole grouping of tools and bring them over to a work station. I keep a cleat on many of my tables, and can hook on my sandpaper organizer, small clamp collection, assorted drivers and so forth as needed.
Thanks for the video!
This!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have two walls in my shop using french cleats. I have rearranged each wall about five times so far. I like the ability to move cabinets, shelves, clamp racks, plane holders, etc. at will. I think the french cleats work well when the walls have been sheet rocked and it's hard to locate studs. In my next house, I plan to line the walls with OSB, and they I'll use your 'screw it on anywhere' method.
Always greatly appreciate the time and care you put into something as insignificant as mounting a drill index to a wall. All the small touches of hogging away waste just for the perfect fit, the addition of water-based varnish. Just the pure enjoyment and satisfaction you get with something so simple, and the little things like that in a shop adds to the positive experience of working in a wood shop. Whenever it turns into a hurry, you've lost the joy in the process of making. Love your intelligent and experienced view of everything in the world of woodworking and beyond. Always learn something watching your videos and greatly appreciate your contributions and free education you contribute to the web.
Not a french cleat system for organizing hand tools
Matthias Wandel hi bro , where are from , i want i meet you can u give me your contact number or skype viber whatsapp ,iwanna i see your workshop i like it
Matthias Wandel hey
Matthias Wandel كم سعر هذة الورشة
إنها جميلة جداً
I really like how you think of the little things like that little slot to stop the thing from sliding sidewise. There is always ingenuity in your creations.
Making new holders and shelves is one of the best parts of woodworking I find.
It's a good idea, but in our workshops new tools are always added, eliminating some or changing them for others. The french system has the enormous advantage of allowing the relocation of tools in a very easy and fast way.
Thank you for the video. Greetings from Spain.
Both systems have their advantages. The main reason I like french cleats, regardless of shop project or not, is the ease of hanging. Being able to attach a cleat to the back of a wall cabinet and simply set it in place is so much easier than trying to hold it and screw it to the wall at the same time. Even if it's not a whole system of cleats mounted to the wall. Just put a cleat where you're going to hang something big and hanging is a breeze.
I like what you did for smaller items. I like what I did for larger items. I might have to steal your plane holder idea though. Pretty nifty.
Or hang some ply on the french-cleats and screw small-tool-holders onto that.
For larger cabinets, I definitely agree. For individual tools, rows of cleats are too bulky, and cut down too much on flexibility.
Matthias Wandel They take up a lot of depth space too, and in my shop, every cubic cm counts.I used french cleats to mount the cabinet itself, and wouldn't do it a different way. My planes would just not fit though. I'll make a separate cabinet for them, but next up is a sandpaper box. This is my year to organize, finally.
I would agree with the general consensus: Cleats for larger/heavier items and simple wall mounts for the small things. That said, I have found that for wall mounting it was generally faster, just as simple, and more adaptable to use peg board for the wall sheeting. it is still simple to make the hangers from scraps, but it allows for greater ease of arrangement and re-arrangement over time. My Grandfather placed a simple sheet of dark brown paper over his and used a white china marker to lable things, hiding the "extra" holes and greatly improving the contrast between the tools, racks, and wall.
I have to admit that I love french cleats and use them in my shop. But I do see your point. Your wall of tools looks nice and organized. Thanks for sharing.
Once again you have offered a reasoned idea(s) that help me in the constant battle to organize my shop. Many thanks
good video matthias,very helpful.
i used to use the "married cleat system"...i'd lend my wife a philips screwdriver and never see it again...very inefficient.
I'm a big fan of the "too many cleats not enough brains" system. I buy a set of bits, use one, set it on top of the fridge while getting a snack, lose all memory of doing so, spend four weeks looking for it, eventually buy another set because they don't come in single bits, and finally find it again when the cat gets up on the fridge and knocks it into my dinner.
percy thrillington I'm thrilled that she was an only child. My Brothers In Law don't mess with mere bits, they take the bit set, battery powered drill, charger, extra batteries, standing drill press, and the coolest shop radio, THEN it all disappears.
Percy, it's in the garden. She was using it as a seed drill, then the phone rang.
I recently arranged my tool cabinet. The first time, I hot glued everything and the first hot day (in Georgia) it all fell off and it stayed that way for 15 years. I finally got tired of not finding tools and made a mini-french-cleat system for part of it. I wish I hadn't done that now. For the rest of it, I made custom holders for each one like you did. I like them much better.I did the same thing for all my drill bits and router bits, but made wood blocks with holes for them. I am so pleased with how it turned out.
Tip:
When drilling out rivets, start with a small bit at a slight angle that will punch through but not cut the outer profile of the rivet, follow it by a larger bit.
This avoids the drill bit walking off the rivet head into your hand or scratching the case you may want to re purpose.
I like your individual tool holders, in particular, the plane holders. I also like the concept of using French cleats, perhaps for those heavier items, i.e., cabinets, multiple clamp holders, etc... My " Man Cave " will have a combination of both systems once my shiplap boards are up in the very near future. It is all about getting organized...
Thanks,
Bill on the Hill... :-)
Nice system Matthias, a very good alternative. As always, your videos are well done, good sound quality, easy to understand,and very succinct.
Don't worry about a few screw holes. Tool storage isn't surgery. You have an excellent storage system and a perfect video!
I so admire your patience and attention to detail, great video's
Bill
I'm 12 I just got my first real shop and I made a French cleat system but what I did to solve my dust and chip issue was I raised my French cleats off the wall. It solves the problem and I think it looks a little better too
Well I'm 50, totally disorganized with shit piled up on random shelves, but I came here to suggest a spaced cleat through which the dust could fall. It made me smile with optimism to know that a 12 year old not only beat me to the suggestion, but actually implemented the solution. Keep it up!
Anyone else light-years away from this level of organization?
oh yeah
Yep I'm still light years away... And its almost 2021!
I could create an entire hobby of setting up the shop. And then make a cutting board with ease. And then sell it all because I lost interest. 😝
I have my clamps standing up in a barrel. Is that what you mean?
Love it. I just started setting up my garage and I just screwed in plywood over the drywall into the studs so I can hang what I want when I want. Thanks for posting your vids. Also I am almost done making three twin beds based on your plans I modified a bit here and there to fit our needs. I will take some pictures and send them your way.
I made a toolboard with an mdf board and then filled it up with as many nails as needed to hold the tools. It's easy and effective, but not nearly as nice as your solution, Matthias. Maybe I'll get the chance to do something like that someday, I would like that. Nice work.
Great storage system. I especially like your method of applying water based varnish from a bottle.
I used to hang tools on the wall but then decided to just keep them all in my big tool boxes instead, I do keep my drill bits out close to my drill press.. All my hand planes are kept in a huge mahogany box just like great grandpa did.. Worked for him for 70+ years.. Nice setup Matthias.. Gary/Hk @ The Wood Shed..
i really love your works.. i'm from Thailand. i hope this video will inspire and make wonderful works. Thanks for your knowledge.
wow, awesome. I like your work and the way you present your videos, 100 stars!
Matthias Wandel: Fighting woodworking trends since 2009! ;D
Wonderful wall tools, looks great.
You are very organized Mr Wandel as well as very creative.
great and practical with no complications system what you have built there. thanks so much
Wow Matthias your shop looks so nice and well lit and organized, I am inspired.
Five years later; I usually would go for the
tang of a file or a reamer to remove a rivet,
instead of a drill, even if the hole is that tiny.
There's not that much metal to remove and
like the video shows, a high speed drill slips
and you can actually hurt yourself that way!
Thanks so much for the content, keep up the
good work. בס״ד
руки из правильного места растут !!! молодец!!!
My next shop task is a tool wall storage system. I was TOTALLY sold on a French cleat system until I saw this video. Thanks for posting Matthias. Alistair
I like french cleats for the "big" stuff and have four or five rows of them in the shop. I'm perfectly fine with hanging panels on them with holders for all the small tools though.
Me too!
Love this . Thank you for sharing. I am currently reclaiming my shop and this helped. There are so very many hand tools to organize. I did get the woodstove in before winter . :) I've watched a lot of vids but this one suits me well. Again, Thank you. Peace
Wow thank you for that video! I am going to start working on my garage now. I was going to go peg holes but your system seems so much more functional!
Everything organized and at hand! Claps!!!
This is an awesome storage setup. I just got back from buying 1/2" birch plywood and 1"x8"x8ft maple planks to build a french cleat system but now I'm not so sure after seeing your setup. Thanks for that....
Dude you're a wood working guru! You have given me some great ideas thank you so much
Matthias, I'm new to your channel, and enjoy your genius and organization. I find the level of your fastidiousness hilarious! And if you were on a job with me, I would throw you out of a window in fifteen minutes. Keep up the good work. Love the channel.
Lol!
Best idea I've seen in years.
I love organized tools. It makes doing a project take a lot less time. I just simply use a 2 or 3 inch deck screw for things that only require it, like wrenches, but having a wooded holder is ideal.
...when you're in-between projects and just want to spend time in the shop.... this is what happens.
I love the plane storage idea... my favorite so far. Gonna steal it, or borrow it for my shop.
I like the DiResta speed-up technique. Good job!
I like your system a lot.
I did something like this in my garage, but I hanged so much crap on it that it eventually fell on me one morning and I was left with tools scattered all over the floor.
*Gearheads be warned, just because you found a really neat way of hanging your 17 pound bearing extractor to the wall, does not mean you should do it!*
HANG !! THE !! CAR !! ON !! THE !! WALL !! TOO !!!
Clean and easy. For getting the drills out a bit easier (especially those underneath) I got the idea of tilting the whole thing just a tiny little bit.
It's a good idea. But it could potentially allow saw dust and chips to get caught in there which was one of the problems Matthias was trying to solve.
Just get a 4x8 foot custom neodymium magnet and you can just toss the tools to the wall and let them stick! Just need like $2,000 for that custom magnet and devise a way to stop any metals filling from getting ripped out of your mouth. :-)
Even though I'm reading your comment in 2017, you definitely won the internet today. I laughed loudly out and chuckled and chortled. Thanks for the giggles.
😂
This would work for my summer tools. Summer here, summer there, and summer where I can't find them. Nice shop.
Love this. I recently moved and remodeled a garage into an electronics and woodworking workshop, so I'm definitely planning to copy your ideas since I too find pegboards really ugly.
Those are great plane holders! Thanks for the ideas.
honestly the best solution i´ve seen so far and it´s pretty too! well done :-)
I started with a french cleat wall but got sick of making hanger cleats for each item. So I started making larger "panels" that hold more then one holder and all those cleats just ended up getting covered. Like other comments I've been seeing. I like both systems but each has a purpose that its better suited for. Cleats for big and just panel up for small.
Fun stuff. I like it, because it represents a sense of order. Personally, I have a thing about keeping stuff out of sight. Not necessarily for reasons of theft either. Just a personal quirk. I like the little holders. I have a few of them as well, but they're inside a hanging tool cabinet. See *quirk* above.
Some of us aren't satisfied with it staying the same forever and ever... That is the only reason I went with a french cleat system. Albeit it's more a double cleat system: Ran the boards thru a 3 1/8" fence with the saw at 45* angle and then flipped it so there is a cleat on both top and bottom. Spaced them so leftovers can slide between them on the wall so more options for mounting are opened up...
Love yer work but a lot of us are redo-ing our work environment often enough to warrant a french cleat (I feel I have to defend it since I just spent 3 days cutting / mounting / painting mine!)
Turn your drill bits over in the orgnizers...not only can you can see see the size markings on the bits, but more importantly it is much easier on your hands when you go to pull a bit out!
i really never do any wood work, but i really like your channel content
Well that's a darn site neater than my system which mostly involves just nails and screws to hold my tools on the wall. Bit of a mish mash but it has a rustic charm, at least that's my story.
The thing that I like about the french cleat system is that you can move them around and take a set off the wall and to the work site.
Lovely and so organised.
Love the organization system. for the drill bits, have you ever thought of making the drills tilt towards you (angled a little bit away from the wall). it would be more work but you could save on wall space and avoid the clearance issue at 3:54. just a thought. keep up the great ideas
I like the french cleat its very easy to level the wall mount. After its level the rest will fall into place.
Bonjour Matthias et merci pour ta video.
C'est un atelier d'enfer que tu as là.
A place for everything, and everything in its place.
I have gone through all your comments, my suggestion is just insert 3 to 4 mm washer between the fixed portion of the cleat and the Plywood/wall, so that a gap will form, whenever the saw dust falls on the cleat , it will automatically come down from the gap created by the washer. The issue of saw dust is solved.......
Amazing Organization!
Yeah I got annoyed with my drills in the box too and set them up the same way, it's really great. Can see what's missing, easy access and no more broken bits from closing or opening the box wrong.
Du bon travail. Bravo Matthias
I like to make changes as needed so I think the French cleats are my go to...
Not sure I'm a huge French cleat advocate either. I like them ok but I really like how you're doing it too. I think it's just personal preference.
Great looking bench.
Good ideas to copy and learn. Thanks
Un posto per ogni cosa e ogni cosa al suo posto, perfetto!
The configurability of a cleat system is good for a beginner (like myself) as I'm constantly adding new tools and needing to move things about. Mine have a cam lever on the bottom that locks them rigid.
Now that I’m not a beginner, I can confirm cleats suck
Man That is a well set up workshop
Excellent work, always godd idéas.
You are a member of the best of vidéos
Excellent tool wall/ storage system
Great video's Mathias! I miss Waterloo ....used to go to school there in the 80's.
Impresive Wandel!
Very nice Matthias! I have been needing to create something like that for a long time.
Me Encanta todo lo tipo de herramienta y dejarlo todo ordenado y con números ♥️❤️♥️❤️♥️❤️
This is a far inferior passive dust collection system to French cleats.
Screw a bucket to the wall. Problem solved.
hes a special man that Matthias is
love the plane handles!
Very nice workshop
very nice set up
That's pretty great. Just let me borrow your patience and I'll get started.
The worst thing you can do is to place racks or shelving for storing tools. I like your system and others similar to it. I have to figure out how to get started given the quagmire which I created.
I love your videos. I want to make one of these, but a mobile version with the entire thing on casters, so I can store it in a different place from where I use it.
Very logical approach
Sure wish I was that organized.
Un gran taller y preciosos organizadores...voy a INTENTAR hacerlo como el tuyo, aunque se k va a ser imposible😅
AWESOME Job Matt...
You're on the way. Now make a rolling cart to hold your most used hand tools to have them within reach wherever you are in the shop. Some of your tool holders can use some tweaking to make them hold the tools so you can grab the tools easily.
beautiful job, congratulations
Make a 3/4" pine spacer and place behind the bit index then you have room for your fingers to grab the bits.
Forstner bits or Brad bits, it's about good ideas for making a tool rack.
Thanks for this. I'm ready to get away from the wall-o-pegs.
looks really nice!
Percfect! Matthias the win!!!