Why Does Elon Musk Want to Kill Wikipedia?
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The Wikipedia article on Musk currently does say it openly right now.
"He has been criticized for making unscientific and misleading statements, including COVID-19 misinformation; affirming antisemitic and transphobic comments, and promoting conspiracy theories."
Paragraph 4 of the first section.
BURN THE TRUTH! MY EGO CAN'T HANDLE IT WAAAAAAAH
It is not there anymore Elon edited it off...let the edit wars begin!!!!! (just kidding: every time I said something people didn't believe I usually said: "Look it at Wikipedia". They usually asked: "Is that in Wikipedia?" , to what I answered: "Now it is").
MAGA is pissed that they are being judged by their character instead of the color of their skin.
Brilliant remark.
Well said.
I imagine they'd also be pretty mad if we said "Orange skin is weird as fuck".
Because accessible information is the enemy of fascism.
There's the answer.
If you can't control the flow of information, you can't control the narrative completely, and that's a key part of the fascist program. It's the reason that they either want to close the schools, or force them to teach what they say is the truth.
education is the future, or NOTHING
yo, come visit the skagit
All this anti-wokeness is nothing but a sham and distraction they don't wantnyou to look aat the real problem
I donated a few weeks ago. I didn’t know this about Musk, though no surprise. I’ll donate again today.
Has your opinion on Musk changed due to recent events?
Wikipedia is the reason why the internet was invented. Not literally, but it very much is in the spirit of the internet's invention. Without credible information sharing sites such as Wikipedia, then what would the internet really be doing for society? I can only look at so many cat videos & porn in a day. We need something more in our lives than frivolous entertainment. In my mind, Wikipedia goes a long way in validating the internet's place in our society.
Me too, I'm almost 45, and I remember how it was before Wikipedia, when you went to the library, trying to find informations on a subject inside a small collection of books that were almost always already way outdated when you opened them... if they were available.
So, my 2025 New Year's Resolution will be to make a monthly contribution to Wikipedia, and it will be thanks to you 😉
Im 34 and I remember using the old books to write papers. It was terrible. I always laughed when teachers were all you can't trust wikipedia, use this 80 year old encyclopedia instead.
I 100% support the real life version of the hitchikers guide. A library of Alexandria level of achievement for humanity and an example that sometimes we get it right.
Your comment had 42 likes when I got here. :)
I remember working on my 4 year degree program and I used Wikipedia as a jumping off point when I had trouble finding credible sources to cite my research on. I did this because of the reasons stated in the video. I would use the Wiki articles bibliography to find those credible articles and sources that I was missing. I would read those non Wikipedia articles and cite them directly.
Eat the Oligarchy like its 1944! That should scare the 💩out of Musk!
99.9999% of wikipedia is nonpolitical, and not about Elon Musk.
It's got a quarter century of volunteer contributions from experts around the world, getting an average of 5 edits per second. It's got articles about seemingly every species of plants, animals, bacteria, viruses, and other living things that don't fit into those categories. Every major city in the world, and many medium-size towns and villages, too, even in obscure countries. Zillions of wars, battles, and other historical events back to the beginning of writing. National leaders and major politicians, internationally, including those out of office for years or centuries. Books, movies, short stories, fantasy stories, and their characters. Galaxies, many of their stars, some of their planets. In our solar system, all the moons of every planet, major asteroids and Kuiper belt objects. Every pharmaceutical. Zillions of chemicals, their elements, and their important isotopes.
It's got translated info in more than 30 languages, all organized into articles, so one can find information that one needs by just looking it up by search: English: 7 million articles. French: 2.7 million. Russian, Italian, Spanish: each about 2M. Japanese, chinese, polish: each 1.5M. Total, all languages, 64M articles.
It's got a record of every change, when it happened, who did it, and the changed text. It's got 'talk' pages for major articles, where editors can discuss needed changes among themselves. And, you can set it to email you whenever a page is changed. Reversing vandalism is easy and is done regularly.
Anybody who wants to get rid of it has to supply a comparable replacement.
Twitter, now X, is really just a cacophony of random posts by random people. There is no possible way X could replace Wikipedia. The idea is ludicrous.
Gosh, I am SHOCKED that the White South African born and raised in apartheid South Africa is not a fan of DEI. Shocked I tell you.
South Africans have made great strides to make a fairer society, it's not becoming of you to paint with a wide brush an entire ethnic group with the past. I'm assuming you're American, does Jim Crow ring any bells?
Very funny, but not about DEI it’s about the truth.
A reasonable assumption, but just to say we're not all like that. White South Africans did in the majority vote for the referendum to end apartheid. Some white South Africans even died fighting against apartheid. Can't stand the man. From white South African.
A very nice reference to that glorious line from Claude Rains in "Casablanca"
@@Shimmy246 You don't care about truth if you think Wikipedia needs to go away. That's the opposite of caring about the truth. Trying to undermine/detroy wikipedia is basically like burning books because you don't like what's in it.
Elon simply is undermining wikipedia because he doesn't like the articles about himself on there, because they're telling the actual truth.
Wikipedia is one of the best things to ever happen to humanity, it must not be harmed
It was harmed when Wikimedia behind it started leveraging it for politics. As indicated by Katherine Maher and her speeches, and her running of npr also saying the same thing.
It can be biased on things though...
"You have said the actual truth"
-Elongated Muskrat
If there is any harm to be done between Wikipedia and Elon Musk, I say protect Wikipedia!
"It was harmed when Wikimedia behind it started leveraging it for politics. As indicated by Katherine Maher and her speeches, and her running of npr also saying the same thing."
It's perfectly legitimate and ordinary for any organisation be it a charitable foundation, nonprofit, commercial enterprise, NGO, etc to represent and promote political positions that support its aims. What makes you see Wikipedia doing so as somehow inappropropriate?
I believe you. When I have taken advantage of of Wikipedia, which up until now, has not been very often, its info and sources have been credible,accurate and trustworthy. You convinced me to donate. Thanks.
Elon, did you ever ruminate on the fact that ‘Tony Stark’ was the designer, engineer and fabricator of his creations? Stop dreaming you are an equal to a fantasy character.
Elon fanboys be saying „but he made a rocket that can return to earth and created PayPal” while the engineering team just stares at them
I just contributed $30 to Wikipedia.
There was nowhere to dedicate my contribution to Elmo, but he inspired me to make a contribution.
This, they said too much criticism of D_Trump led to him getting a lot of free advertising and exposure. Let's hope this helps Wiki to grow a bit!😂
Good job, I'm about to do the same.
Musk is also NOT an engineer. He just plays one on TV. He does not have an engineering degree, he has never practiced as an engineer and what he knows about engineering could be written on the head of a very small pin in very large letters. Musk HIRES engineers and then takes credit for what they accomplish. To call Musk an engineer of any kind is a grave insult to engineers who worked hard to achieve their skills and who take their profession very seriously, because they know that to screw up as an engineer would most likely endanger the lives of people depending on their professionalism. An idiot who repeatedly insists that "full self driving" is here now, despite the fact that actual engineers have repeatedly said "No, it's not" is not an engineer. He's a snake-oil salesman.
Oh no! Because of this defamatory yet true comment, now butt-hurt Elon Musk will attempt to destroy the Steve Shives TH-cam channel!
@@michaelmeichtry316That should boost Steve's fame and popularity immensely! Bring it on!
Musk is an idiot but a dangerous one just like Drumph
So he’s Maxwell lord.
The only thing he's invented is the list of things he's invented.
Standard pitch: get involved, edit Wikipedia articles. For techies, contribute to sister project Wikidata
It's all about control, control of the majority of the media. Control the information, you can do what you want.
I'm so tired of Elon Musk!
I think many thinking people are.
Luigi showed the only way that people like Elon will ever be stopped. Which is actually horrible.
Same here. And he's not even president yet.
By now I think that might be his tactic: annoying everyone to wear them down
Hate to say it but you could be on to something here!@joesiemoneit2787
cuz it's one of the few remaining things that's good about the internet and musk is a vindictive, destructive baby boy. i always make donations to wikipedia. I am a postdoctoral researacher and use wikipedia whenever i need a quick refresher on a topic, need a quick primer on a new topic or just feel curious about something. The references are a gold mine for new topics. I owe it a lot
Yup. You can't cite it in a peer reviewed paper but it will get you started.
Fecker destroys everything - all that money and still not happy!!!
I used to be a researcher, changed careers and I am now retired.
I love Wikipedia. I use it often to refresh my memory or catch up with the newest developments.
In 2016 I became interested in American politics (I am Dutch) and Wikipedia has been very helpful in getting more background knowledge. Just check out the Wikipedia page of a politician or another person exerting power and you know the basics of their background. I don't need to check then all the references. I would need to do that if I wanted to write an article about this person.
There are so many ways to use it. If accuracy is important for your purpose, you need to dive deeper, just as with any other source. If accuracy on all details is not relevant for your goal, then it is sufficient to use your common sense and logical mind.
@@okkietrooy6841 Yes, it is like having a full set of dictionaries at your fingertips.
@@ToCraunchAMarmoset Of course not. It is its references and citations that are important and useful.
Wikipedia provides bibliographies too sometimes.
Never donated to Wikipedia. Going to do so now.
Ditto here from Australia 🤣🇦🇺 FEM 🖕🖕🇦🇺
A friend of mine who usually donates 20 US dollars each year decided to donate 100 this year because of what Elon wrote :-)
I think I’ll read up on the Streisand effect and then I’ll donate for the first time too.
It’s always best to choose a monthly subscription donation, even if it’s low, because regular monthly donations allow organisations like Wikipedia to have a steady income and plan for future expenses.
I don’t use it but I’m donating now
Telling everyone that Musk is against Wiki is a sure way to make sure their donations increase.
I am going to donate now :)
I will start donating every month as soon as I get my first job in 2025 :) as a student, Wikipedia has been a brilliant and reliable fallback resource to which I contributed my time with edits from time to time, now after I get my university degree and a job I will have less time but more money to spare and contribute to Wikipedia.
I just donated again just because Musk is against it!
between TH-cam for general processes and Wikipedia for specific details
I have learned how to hunt, surf, build surfboards, build and wire guitars, overhaul old Porsche engines, work on newer Japanese engines
finding details like bullet sizes, bolt sizes, engine displacements, definitions, I mean Wikipedia is the promise of the INFORMATION AGE
We're so lucky Wikipedia exists and we must defend it. I'll start donating in 2025 as soon as I get my first job
I can find something on Wikipedia in five minutes what would take five DAYS to dig out of a library!
@@jakub.kubicek Just donate even a dollar today. What's most important is that you participate in the process. Doesn't have to be a significant amount. You won't miss that $1, but you sure as heck will feel good about contributing in some small way to this wonderful thing that connects us all.
Thank you, Steve!! I am fed up with this unelected bigot.
If I had billions of dollaroos, I too would rarely be out of the news, but mostly for my fantastic humanitarian work and using my money to help society where the state is failing, not for being a wank.
If he were to stay wanking all day in his grimy bedroom he'd have been so much more liked
If I had that kind of money there would be hundreds of well funded animal shelters.
Sadly the mindset required to acquire that wealth necessarily means you would not be generous. Its why id way most multi-millionaires are some degree of psychopathic because it requires the lack of empathy for the lower classes.
Ah but if you were evil you'd get more strokes.
And Musk would hate that, which is why he continuously complains about the charitable efforts of Bezos' ex-wife who is trying to do good with her half of the business.
After seeing your video I am going to contribute to Wikipedia today. Thanks for the reminder. I use wiki almost everyday.
because when you're a billionaire, you buy what you can and burn what you can't. it's dumb and it's childish but it's part of the process if you were never forced to learn a lesson in your life.
@summerlovinxx ~ I would say that it's calculating and vile rather than dumb and childish. Musk knows *EXACTLY* what he is doing.
@@priscillamoore5736 Just because he is calculating doesn't mean he can also be dumb
@@priscillamoore5736 to be honest, I belive that 'elon knows exactly what he's doing' is one of the greatest myth of the 21th century....
here's the thang... Elon is a SOCIOPATH, just he just DOES NOT CARE about you nor your thoughts - but you surprised me - NOM! *I AM 97 👍*
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also if you're a dude who likes dudes - ALL THE👍your butt - I WUV YOU long time from afar! _don't get it? buy a butt plug and jo.... it's just so easy_
@@tobiasfreitag2182I agree. Elon know whatever the the current drugs lead him to "know" at any given time.
Minor correction. Money doesn't turn people into assholes. It's just that the kinds of people who would do the exploitive things it takes to make that much money, kinda have to assholes. Good people who actually treat their employes fairly, can't get that obscenely rich in the first place, and even if they somehow did, they'd most likely donate most of it to charities or otherwise invest in publicly funded projects which help make the world a better place for everyone, not just themselves.
As a saying I've grown quite fond of goes, power doesn't corrupt, it just reveals whatever corruption was already there all along.
Maybe there's some substantive evolution here. I remember in the RayGun years of the 80s, it was LITERALLY believed that the more lucre you obtained for yourself the better a person you were. All sorts of adulation was bestowed upon "biznezmin", and people scored upper-moral- ground points along the lines of what their bottom lines were. Well....at least we have created SOME distance (small as it may be) from that!
@@Thousandaire-n7o: The 80's was the decade of Reganomics, of course it glorified the wealthy elites, and the legacy of that decade is why working-class conservatives to this day still vote against their own interests in favor politicians that have been so thoroughly bought out by corporate interests.
@@Thousandaire-n7o In The U.S.A. it is currently referred to as Prosperity Gospel. Which is essentially the idea that God gives good people money. If you don't have money you're just not good enough, and those with money are the best people (or agents of the Devil). There are a lot of interesting video's examining it if you are curious about additional information.
Worded wisely.
I like tp say ‚money only brings out what‘s inside you already‘.
In that regard it‘s similar to alcohol. You have the people that get funny, those that get the blues and the aggressive ones..
I can think of at least one example of a well known individual who got obscenely wealthy, donated a lot to charity, and then kinda fell down an evil rabbit hole. Losing touch with "the common man" and getting used to being treated as something special... I think that erodes your empathy and compassion and critical thinking. You have to think of yourself as deserving wealth and power (because you can't live, long-term, feeling like you truly don't deserve your life) and it might not turn everyone into a monster, but when even people who did do the donate thing can get corrupted... maybe nobody is immune. Which doesn't excuse not fighting as hard as you can for your own soul, mind you - but maybe we need that more realistic POV, that money does corrupt, and that's why people should not, in fact, be allowed to have so g-damn much of it.
It's a gate to knowledge and allows ppl to think. This is why Musk doesn't like it.
I really freaking hate that guy.
Bingo
Not entirely TRUE - rather it's FACTUAL, not adoring STUPID STORIES crafted for sycophants and stouges - we are GOD
err mahaps be Gawd Awful, but Elon is WORSE
@@annjepsen1621the party of rapists has taught us how to hate.
No Wikipedia is now controlled garbage that's why it needs to go and get replaced.
Anyone can edit it now and are getting false information, this is why you can't use it to write your thesis in university, they will throw it out!
In his last year, H.G.Wells pestered the UN to create something that was basically Wikipedia. They didn't, but Asimov ran with the idea in Foundation.
I donate to Wikipedia every year. It is a terrific resource since we don't all have Encyclopedia Britannica in our houses any longer.
And it's so much more than an encyclopedia. It's a truly living document. Literally millions of documents. I remember when I first discovered it, a few years into its life and as a massive geek I thought, "It's the 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy!'"
The reality is that it has become more than that. Any human being on earth, with literacy and a network connection can add to the document. It may be the most democratic entity to ever exist on planet earth. When discussing the positives and negatives of the internet, there are many, many cons. But I honestly believe that Wikipedia on its own may end of being the one pro that offsets every single con. It's that valuable to us. And I've given many times, small amounts, over the years.
Thanks for the reminder to donate.
Whenever Elon Musk or Donald Trump say do this or don't do that then my immediate reaction is to do the exact opposite.
Well there is no Woke-apedia. But there is Wikipedia.
For whatever reason when I read your comment I read "Donald Musk". I do agree with the general sentiment of this comment though. Elon is arguably the biggest enemy of the good of humanity, along with the USA current political apparatus (And the EU isn't far behind with their deeply fked up strong armed unfair trade agreements, and neither is China or India and fk these assholes governments want to achieve luxury at the expense of other nations and/or certain populations within their own nations)
@@remrad4315 There is also a "Conservapedia", which is just a deeply bigoted and hateful version of Wikipedia full of conspiracy theories that puts acts as if the US is the only nation of value to exist
I donate every year. In 2025 I will double it. I won’t lease a Tesla or buy any thing dat will make Elton a cent richer
Indeed. This news was a good reminder that I should donate so I did.
I donate monthly. Sometimes you see a post that you need to verify information.
Don't forget that the donations also keep the website ad free, which for most people is becoming a rarity, a website where you can find information without dozens of ads.
Except for the ads for itself 😉
the donations are for something entirely separate, the wikimedia foundation is different than the website, they are not the same organization, the website has plenty of resources. the donations they solicit are for jimmy wells to be a libertarian and dodge taxes
And the investors of the add's have ideological interests so if wikipedia need the ads, wikipedia will be forced into the investors wills.
@@TheFamousMockingbird so what. Trump also dodged taxes but I don’t see y’all screeching abt it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Elon also dodges taxes. To think that rich people and those in politics don’t dodge taxes and are super clean and honest is just naive and foolish.
@@archmage_of_the_aetherI’m completely okay with a site advertising itself, especially when it’s a voluntary donation rather than a paywalled subscription, since they’re advertising something I already want or need to use. It’s the companies that advertise things I don’t need that I have a problem with, especially doing so in unrelated contexts.
I also donate to Wikipedia regularly. I even flipped the script on my first college writing assignment which was supposed to be about why you shouldn't use Wikipedia for college work. I flipped that around and explained how you could use it as long as you understand the limitations. Exactly like you said, a gateway tool.
As I frequently tell my own students, it's a fantastic tool. It's not a good source most of the time, since it's always best to find the original information, but a great tool because they point you to the originals.
I can relate. For years I've told my university students that the couldn't quote Wikipedia directly. Then a student did a persuasive speech about how they should be able to do so. It didn't convince me, but perhaps I should reconsider.
@dctrevett I don't think they should cite Wikipedia as a source, you should never use tertiary sources in rigorous academic writing.
@@dcviper985 It's not rigorous academic writing on the public speaking side, but the Intro to Rhetoric part...
I use it to learn the vocabulary i don't have or can't remember to get more scholarly articles after. Or just to refresh my memory and to see if the knowledge has evolved, after a year or 2..
Wikipedia is one of my life lines for information. I always donate yearly.
Hey thanks Steve! I totally am with you on your analysis of Musk's persona! Thanks for the courage of saying it the way it is! Have a great day! 🌿
I am a wiki volunteer editor. I think it’s time to add to the article on President Musk to include his recent failure to shut down the government.
I'm on the left, but you seem biased.
@@archmage_of_the_aether Musk did almost shut down the government by showing his disapproval and threatening politicians for passing a simple funding bill.
@@archmage_of_the_aether well Im male mother and you are wrong.
keep your biases to yourself
I use Wikipedia. I found some errors in themes I know. For example, what it says about the University of Puerto Rico, Mayagüez Campus. So, I don't trust it 100%.
I’ve donated a couple of times to Wikipedia. Musky just gave me the incentive for another donation.
Good point, I just decided to donate a second time this year!
Honestly I was tempted to donate but haven't until this video.
@@nancykerrigan and also after this video
Right wing extremists opposing it is actually a pretty good argument for donating to Wikipedia.
Every month…I donate 2 bucks every month. I think I’ll increase it.
If he opposed it he wouldn't have offer a billion dollars, your talking about the guy who want AI to be op source who built chat gpt and lets you use it for free, the dude is funny he has his own sense of humor but he is genuinely giving it a billion dollars if you let him have his joke like
@@hskajdhf5907my comrade in luigi, musk _hires people_ to build those things, he doesn't _actually_ work on them himself. did you fall out of a time warp that opened in a showing of the first iron man movie?
@@LexYeen remember, these people genuinely believe marvel movies are real, and Musk is Tony Stark. Pity them for they do not know better.
It's hard to see Elon Musk stopping Wikipedia by suggesting its defunding, b/c the only ones who will listen to him are MAGA and the uninformed and they would never fund or appreciate Wikipedia to begin with. However, seating Musk at the White House does make it more likely that Wikipedia could be shutdown.
My teacher in school: You can't use wikipedia as a source
Me as an adult: Google immediatly takes me to wikipedia
Elon was raised in South Africa during Apartheid. It ended there. He just bought the American Presidency so that he can help recreate it here.
Welcome to your new oligarchy
new, sure, but america has been an oligarchy for a very long time. im not saying that both sides are equally as bad, but they sure are leashed by the same, evil masters.
Thank goodness China is running Africa now. It'll finally give the left a new group to blame and unleash their anger on.
A damn Kleptocracy
St. Luigi's mission isn't done
@tracymetherell8744 If not for censors I could help. But your channels control you here.
I donated to Wikipedia for the first time this year myself.
me too. Grüße
Before "DEI" the buzzword was "Affirmative Action".
Imho DEI covers much more.
they went with "equality of opportunity instead of equality of outcome" for a few years; ie. if 2 people are able to apply for the same CEO position, then equality must exist. Analysing who gets the job in any way is communism and evil. End of argument.
@ulrikof.2486 it would but affirmative action was a very advanced and needed program when it came out. You wouldn't have DEI without it.
I donated too. I also remember a shelf full of encyclopedia, with an annual update volume. Couldn't fit in my pocket.
Wikipedia had pages devoted to history and culture from all over the world. OF COURSE IT SHOULD HAVE INCLUSION!
Dam right! It’s not just information for Americans or anglophones, but for as many peoples as possible
I grew up in Venezuela (I was a dual citizen, living in the U.S. when I wrote this), and around 2010 I was shocked at how little information concerning my Latin American childhood and earliest adolescence I could find online-not just in Wikipedia, but ANYWHERE-and what a contrast that was to the surfeit of information regarding the U.S., or to a secondary extent Western Europe, there was, gumming up the tubes.
Specifically, I was trying to find the radio pop charts for Caracas in the late 1970s … turned out, I couldn’t even find a record of such basic information as what t.v. stations we’d had, or what their broadcast channels had been! (If you’re curious: 2 - RCTV; 4 - Venevisión; 5 - TVN 5, more commonly just called Canal Cinco; 8 - VTV; I could’ve sworn there was a channel 10 or 11, too, sporadically, but I never could quite recall the details.)
So I went down a rabbit hole then, and realized that, had I wanted to know when a particular Chuck E. Cheese in rural Wyoming had closed, I would’ve found a date, its exact address, its menu, who had serviced the robot mouse, a list of inspection dates … anything and everything! Had I wanted to know who Venezuela’s most famous pop singer of the late 1970s was, I’d have come up the goose egg. (It was Jose Luis Rodriguez, by the way … or “El Puma,” rawr.)
The situation got better in the ensuing years, but you’d be surprised at how tilted the playing field remained. It’s one thing to intellectually appreciate how heavily the Internet privileges the world’s robber baron nations over the rest of us, but quite another to have viscerally apprehended the fact of one’s erasure.
And it’s rather a big deal: I was in my (cough) early fifties (cough) as I wrote this, and in not too long I would be dead … followed, inevitably and over time, by my entire cohort. One day, it’ll have been as if the 1970s occurred only in the U.S.A. and across Western Europe … but not in Latin America, OR across the African continent, OR in Southeast Asia! The details of all these lives, forgotten; the struggle against both colonialism and empire, not only lost, but … erased; the liberation struggles of the decade-of women, of queer people, of people of color, of the poor, of the disabled, of the disenfranchised writ large, obliterated, and rewritten solely from the perspective of the victors.
I didn’t want that to happen. To whoever reads this: it can still be avoided, but complacency won’t get the job done. It’s good that Wikipedia actively pursue inclusion … if only more organizations would!
Sorry for the long monologue, but this topic was closer to me than anyone who’d known me ever seemed to guess.
I donate monthly to Wikipedia.
I''ve set up a yearly donation of 20€ years ago. I can imagine for some people that's like... nothing and for some people that already being a lot. for me it's skipping maybe one game on steam that lands on my backlog of unplayed games. If you've ever used wikipedia to any capacity just donate anything. Even if it's just 5 bucks per year. It's just so important.
Money doesnt turn people into A-holes. It allows them to be what they already were without fear of consequences.
TRUE
No. It turns people into psychopaths. If you think you could be a good person if you had that much wealth you are fooling yourself.
But one doesn’t become a billionaire without being a major asshole.
Yes. It's the "without fear of consequences" that's tge key
As the old saying goes:
"If you want to find out what a man is to the bottom, give him power. Any man can stand adversity - only a great man can stand prosperity."
(Note that this was not said by Abraham Lincoln despite everyone thinking it was attributed to him - but it was apparently first said by Robert G Ingersoll, who indeed was talking about Lincoln.)
For the last I-don't-know-how-many years, I've given $3 a month automatically to Wikipedia. It's $3 I'll never notice in my budget, but it more than pays for the easy access to information I call upon my Apple assistant to provide almost every day. Coming from a generation that paid for several sets of encyclopedias and the annual update yearbooks associated with them... Wikipedia is a bargain, if not entirely free if you so choose.
Anyone wanting to sabotage such a resource has motives any reasonable thinker needs to question.
I give them 50 every year in February along with my NPR donation. These are not government bloat.
Can we donate by snail mail? What is the snail-mail address?
@@robertsouth6971 " These are not government bloat." Right, in fact, not run by any government, but by an international foundation, with servers around the world.
If it's any consolation, the kind of people who set store by what Elon Musk has to say are unlikely to be the kind of people who donate to Wikipedia. Personally, I consider Wikipedia a supreme achievement of humankind, the greatest repository of human knowledge ever created.
@johnnzboy ~ I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but, unfortunately, it really doesn't matter what anyone thinks of Elon Musk. He has unlimited wealth (comparatively speaking), and he has just bought the American Presidency and will do exactly what he wants. Tragically and dangerously, t#### is insecure and easily manipulated.
I don't think Elon Musk would've been allowed to get this far with other Presidents.
@@PaleRider54 Makes sense that a bafoon wants to burn it down. History, and rhyming.
I just decided to increase my donation to Wikipedia.
I'm 76 years of age in Australia. Before computers we had books such as dictionaries, atlas', encyclopedias and borrowed from libraries. As I was trained in shorthand, I even had a shorthand dictionary which I kept beside me in my desk at work. People read the daily newspapers and listened to the wireless (radio) before we had television. If Elon Musk told me not to do something. that would make me want to do it all the more.
Many of those resources were full of misinformation, and disinformation.
They'll get around to eliminating dictionaries, atlases, encyclopedias, and eventually the very libraries themselves.
They are Republicans. It's what they do, after all.
I just donated to wikipedia after having watched this video. Hope Elon´s statement inspires more ppl to do so!
We also had 'books of facts' (i.e., almanacs) that we could quickly reference during conversations. They didn't always have the particular fact you were looking for but they had plenty of info and large glossaries.
I'm only 71 and in the USA. But I still remember the same thing here;-). I used to sit in the library looking up information. All the information I needed was in the library making it easy to follow up on things I didn't understand. And in the library, librarians wouldn't take any talking or goofing around. Social media seems to be the opposite. Social media seems to be constant distractions. Wickipedia seems to be the closest we have today to the library I spent so much time in.
That was beautiful, the description of what Wikipedia is to our society and world. I grew up with it being the laughing stock untrustworthy source, but that was genuinely moving and you've convinced me to donate
Elon has worn out his welcome…
He needs to be "adjusted" as he will never stop or be restrained by morality / laws. One hopes he adjusts himself, but history shows that does not happen.
He wore out his welcome a decade ago. I lost all respect for Grimes when she started dating him and let him knock her up.
Money corrupts the weak
It's time to recognize that Elon is not an honorable American
Citizen. He has failed to follow the rules governing his request
to stay in America by violating the terms of his visa.
It's time to revoke his citizenship and deport him.
Oh yeah, do not forget to fine him heavily.
Remember Luigi?
We need another Luigi.
1:25 Well said. Speaking as an academic librarian, I encourage students to do their preliminary research using Wikipedia and Google, among other tools, to get a general idea about their topic before they dive into the university's databases. It really helps to see the entries themselves, but also the citations and links to other articles. I donate to Wikipedia a couple of times a year, and muskRat's tweet to the contrary made me donate more than I usually would.
Hes mad that Wikipedia exposes him for the fraud he is, as a man that came from extraordinary wealth who likes to pass himself off as a hardworking, self made genius.
Steve, thanks for the reminder to do my annual donation! I'm very selective about where I donate my money each year, and the vast majority of causes are local. Wikipedia is the notable exception, and I'm proud to give every year. As a 38 year old, there hasn't been a single year of my life since early college where I haven't enjoyed the easy accessibility of Wikipedia throughout the year. It's truly one of the last remnants of a kinder, freer, uncorrupted, and more useful internet. This year I'm giving my largest donation yet. I encourage the rest of your viewers to take 1-2 minutes right now and give theirs, too!
Fascism, how does it happen. -They first fool the ignorant, and then they silence the opponent.
Well, looks like they are successful on the first one...
If you look to the history of political calamities,it always includes the fanatical vanity of one man.
Blaming the masses is too easy, we can all be swayed by promises to lead us to the life we wish for ourselves.
I wouldn't say they're quite successful yet. Well on their way but over 50% of the population does not believe what they are saying and likely never will. And once they start implementing their ideas, they will further alienate their own base. This fight isn't over yet. @@WaningGibbous
I think the funny part is(not really) is on Twitter, I would constantly get ads for trump or his merchandise during the election, and I don’t really follow politics stuff on Twitter since I mainly use it to follow TH-camrs and art, I didn’t got anything for Kamala Harris, but my friend did but only once.
Yes. Fascism 101.
When everyone was making fun of Elon for making such a bad business decision for buying Twitter, and how he was a bad CEO for running it into the ground, I was calling out that it was all according to his plan. It was an investment to try to steer society by controlling the public discourse. And it's working.
More people need to leave Twitter. I deleted all my accounts the day he bought it.
I think it is a success even if Twitter dies.
Twitter radicalized me quite a bit during covid, before Elon Musk made it useless for organizing.
The take-over was funded by the Saudis who wanted to disrupt the organization of protests in the Middle East.
this was absolutely not his plan, elon is a bumbling buffoon. he was forced to buy it through his sheer stupidity, and when he had it he naturally used it to spread conspiracy and promote the right wing brainrot. there is no semblance of a plan here.
I know you want to make sense of the world, but him overpaying for Twitter is in no way "according to his plan". He tried to weasel out of it and he was forced by court to buy the website. These people aren't smart enough to plan anything, it's just that he has so much money that he can absorb a 50 billion dollar fumble
It's the latest version of billionaires buying newspapers or news stations.
It is so good that it is free of advertiser influence.
I donate to Wikipedia a few times every year - I have no problem paying for things I use!
Elon Musk is the New Pillow Guy!!!
Where HAS Pillow Guy gone ?
@@paulinelarson465 He got sucked dry by a orange leech.
Mike is still around, but became mostly irrelevant. He is so deep in, even for Fox "News" he sounds too crazy.
For head of MAGA he got uninteresting as well: Already blew all of his money...
@@paulinelarson465 Bankrupt. And so will Musk. Just like anyone that trump touches.
Unfortunately elon is too rich to end up like he did.
@@paulinelarson465 Trump has given us many surprises. Who knows, maybe he will have a position for pillow guy. Something about election interference.
Also, here's you regularly scheduled reminder to delete your twitter accounts. Don't just leave and move to another platform. Delete it completely.
Never had one, never will!
Did it before he took over as I saw the writing on the wall.....
I deleted mine the day he took over but not before tweeting that he's a r*tard.
I'm leaving it there (with a final "f this" and a shameless self-promotion of my tumblr) to drain whatever resources it drains by being hosted on a server somewhere. That does cost money, it's one reason sites like photobucket went back on their original promises to keep stuff free forever.
I had a Twitter account years ago but it was compromised in a way that got the account scrubbed. I didn't return, I had no interest in it and less than zero with skuM.
It's an educational tool of course he is against it.
Truth liberates, lies catch up with us in the end. Is that what Musk fears?
I donated immediately, he should do this every year.
If your god is against the spread of information, is your god really worth worshipping?
No god, or indeed any being, is worth worshipping.
What does a god need with a starship???
That's why I worship Sobek crocodile god of fertility.
May your sperm be everflowing and your crocodiles plentiful.
@@JJ-qo7th false gods!
@@CathrineMacNiel all gods are false. Always.
because its one of the easiest ways to fact check things, which scares any republican.
Scares any *fascist* you mean.
I understand the sentiment, but never forget that the political spectrum is a circle. If you push too far right or left, you end up with fascism.
@evananderson1455 lol no. Stop believing debunked horseshoe theory.
What's next, Elon? Libraries?
I saw a recommendation recently that suggested on January 20 during the inauguration, we should cancel Twitter memberships. Just passing the idea along in case it also appeals to others.
Good idea, wanted to do it but I'll wait for that very day. 😅👍
🎵 It's the fiiiiinal coooouuuntdoooown.... 🎵
Too late, I deleted mine the day that Musk's takeover became official.
If you're still on twitter, you're perpetuating the problem.
I'm gone already
I would love to, but I never stooped to a twit account 🙂
I'm a regular contributor to Wikipedia now. When I made my most recent contribution, I thought to myself that this is exactly the kind of resource that that idiot Musk would try to tear down. And here we are! 🙄
@aerynsunx ~ May I suggest the word "vile" instead of "idiot"? Musk is cold and calculating.
@priscillamoore5736 Better yet, use both.
@@priscillamoore5736 Vile is a good description but diabolical is better.
Musk will try to block anything that says anything negative about him and that includes AI.
@@priscillamoore5736 While you're 100% correct, I'd also argue he is an idiot, thus making him a vile calculating idiot.
One of Elon's kids came out as trans and it broke his brain.
I live in a rural area and my internet sucks. I could get Starlink and have higher speed but I wouldn't give that fascist a nickel at this point.
Same here - I live in rural Ireland and have put up with terrible to mid internet instead of Starlink.
Never bought anything from Amazon either.
I think other companies are trying to compete with starlink. Let’s hope they succeed!
His brain was already broken.
Can't you get a eutelsat contract?
@@TeamBehrens there are other well established competitors that aren't losing money hand over fist. Their service is generally slower in ping (time to send and receive a response) at the very least. Because they place their satellites further out in geostationary orbit. In turn they don't carpet bomb the most valuable orbits in space with satellites they themselves state are junk in 5 years and require only like 3 satellites for global coverage.
In rural areas you cannot justify the spaceX approach due to low amount of customers, in urban areas their capacity would be soon tapped out before considering the fiber optics that are much faster on the ground. Which starlink themselves must use to connect to the internet at all. And in anything other than a rich nation it's too expensive.
There are countries with fiber optics even in rural areas, Romania is actually statistically like the best country for this. It's expensive to build out, yes, just like electricity was, keep dumping more tax payer money at ISP giants bottom line rather than build out municipal networks, just like you always do. Will surely work this time round.
I remember when the guys on battlefront forums were recruiting for wpedia mods in the early 2000's. I deciding working for free was not in my wheelhouse. The problem is people expect it to be a factual source when it is not and should never be cited when making decisions. with that being said El0n is a .
Spouting "WOKE", as a _random_ definition of _anything,_ is the same as saying "I'm a fascist".
Yep
And saying “All politicians and political parties are the same.” is code for “I’m too lazy/uninformed to know the differences and the impact they have on my life.”
At the very least, it means "I'm an unwoke zombie despot cultist".
I appreciate the irony of using "fascist" which is also broadly applied to things it doesnt describe
@@escape209such as?
As it is now, Donald Trump plays second fiddle to President Musk. Meanwhile, JD Vance is waiting in the wings, not knowing what to do.
He was never needed in the first place, he was a token position when Dump picked him.
Oh, Vance knows what to do, as long as there's a couch handy.
Oh I believe at some point we'll hear President Vance. He's a HUGE 'yes man' while Trump kind of does whatever he wants and has people like Musk playing politics and they don't want that. Vance would do every single thing they want him to do.
We have to remember, Vance was a never trumper once, now he kisses the ring !! He is wishy washy, he is bidding his time staying in the background until he has been humiliated enough then he will strike out against trump/musk!
@@transparentaluminumOh yes, he’s going to enjoy spending time with that couch while he waits 😂
He hates anything that is not for profit.
Little correction: Not for HIS profit.
Really he just hates anything that doesn't worship him.
Twitter as a journalistic medium or a source of knowledge? Really? Really?
Never donated to Wikipedia before. Happened to have other charities. But the second I saw musk's post, I set up monthly donations. It didn't hurt financially, though, because I just canceled all my Amazon services, since Bezos bowed down and tithed to Trump.
Not saying all this to virtue signal or whatever. I'm just hoping everybody else is paying attention to where they are putting their money right now. We have to make sure that these things backfire for Trump and Musk. Support the people they are trying to hurt and punish those who curry their favor.
This!!! If people continue giving their money to the likes of Bozos and Musk, we enslave ourselves further. Express your freedom of choice and shift your consumption habits to local businesses. With the shitstorm that is coming, you'll have to make sacrifices anyway, why not make them while supporting your neighbors at the same time. The average american spends $91 dollars a month with Amazon, so just think about how we could transform local/state economies if we shifted most of those dollars to local businesses. 68 cents of every dollar you spend with a local business/product stays in the community/state, versus only 40-42 cents of each dollar spent with a corporate chain/Amazon.
Same
Good plan.
Excellent!
I literally just cancelled all my Amazon subscriptions this morning as well.
Elon also wants to get rid of PBS and NPR!
@cathyleslie5151 ~ Doesn't surprise me in the least. If I'm not mistaken, Project 2025 eliminates funding for Public Television and NPR.
Can’t be having that government-funded “indoctrination”, it needs to be replaced with X indoctrination!
Elon is also not an engineer. He has no engineering degree and, judging by the amount of tweets he sends out, it's doubtful he meaningfully contributes to solving engineering issues at his various companies. He has in his employee many very talented engineers who do the REAL work for which he goes out of his way to take credit for. Musk, however, is not one, as much as he'd really wish for all of us to believe he is.
My fave was the open discussions after he bought Twitter. It was truly an amazing display of narcissistic inability. Bro is the boss Dunning-Kruger.
Indeed. , Kennyle8640. The only sort of "engineering" he contributes is engineering *problems.*
And to add to this, I read shortly after this rift, he was offering wikipedia 1 billion dollars to change their name to "Dickipedia" which just show how immature he really is. Here is the guy pulling the strings, ladies and gentlemen... an adult man with the mental maturity of 9th grade bully. He reminds me of a Bond villain, but way less mature.
FYI, "Libs of TikTok" is a handle for various far-right and anti-LGBT social-media accounts operated by Chaya Raichik a former real estate agent.
Couldn’t make it in real estate but realized there’s profit in being mean.
The same Chaya Raichik who put dozens of schools and children’s hospitals in mortal danger
Thanks for the elucidation
@@Dbb277-2This is the origin story of so, so many hard right and anti-"woke" grifters over the past 10 years or so - especially those who gained their following and goodwill over the years through more honest and progressive avenues. At one point, they realised that being mean, intolerant and hateful, and above all being controversial for controversy's sake, was more profitable than continuing their current course of actions - and once they got a taste of this new power, they became addicted and hooked, and never turned back out of fear of losing this new power.
I'm not sure about Libs of TikTok ingeneral, but at least with the post in the video, he was right and pretty much completely on point.
I have donated to Wiki in the past. I was going to skip it this year because money is tight, but to flip a middle finger to Elon, I can spare a couple dollars. Just donated. Thanks Steve!
It's quite easy to set up a recurring monthly donation.
Just $4 or $5 per month can be easier than $50 or $60 annually.
(And charities generally prefer that way, because it gives them a more predictable budget.)
Just donated $20, thank you President Musk for reminding me what a valuable service Wikipedia provides
Musk isn’t the president! He’s the First Lady!!😉
MY first reaction when I saw the thumbnail of this video was something that you haven't suggested, but I'm going to put it out there.
What if Musk has recognised that without Wikipedia there would be a great hole in information that (he?) could 'properly' monetise?!
It's already difficult enough to get hold of good scientific information that is controlled by the organization's that distribute ground level research in science. They make ZERO novel contribution to human knowledge, but merely act as middlemen for actual researchers and then - having been GIVEN the research papers for FREE, they then charge £20 or £30 PER ARTICLE, ensuring that primary information is hidden from anybody but the most wealthy (plus CURRENT students/staff of institutions that pay goodness knows how much to access it!) behind a MASSIVE pay wall.
One of the MOST IMPORTANT ways to control people is to keep them ignorant of anything except what you want them to know!
If this control freak could kill Wiki, he could either take over (Not BUILD. He never actually makes anything new!) an alternative encyclopedia and monetise it, or. . . JUST KEEP PEOPLE IGNORANT. WIN-WIN!
Wikipedia is a global treasure.
Based on this I will now double my donation to Wikipedia.
They prefer the uneducated. Easier to talk into stupid stuff, like voting against your own interests
Just donated to Wiki. I usually only donate in years when I use it most, but this is beyond the pale.
He better not try to hurt Wikipedia, I've put too much of my time into it for it to just be wiped away
Mr Free Speech doesn’t really like free speech against him. Funny how that happens
when elon says he likes free speech it is an incredibly thin disguise for his actual thoughts, being that he likes racism
Twitter is the most "free" social media site next to maybe 4chan. Idk why you think he's against free speech.
@@plzcme434 That's why I call it "Xchan", it was next in the progression - 4chan --> 8chan --> Xchan.
@@plzcme434bro its not free speech when you can't make fun of the goddamn ceo
Well said! Great reporting
Truly excellent ! I fully agree and also do my best to support Wiki with an annual donation. I'm 79 and Wikipedia is something I could never have dreamed of. The world's knowledge is growing exponentially and it should be available to everyone if we truly wish to elevate humanity. I admit I was initially a Musk fan because of my love of space travel until I delved past the hype; no longer.
Elon has gone full fascist, a fascist's enemy is education.
Considering his background that's totally unsurprising.
Exactly. Elon is against anything that proves he's wrong. Incredibly stupid considering SpaceX and Tesla are successful only because of their effective interaction with reality.
Yeah fascist bought twitter and ended censorship.
he also openly endorsed a german far-right wing party. right around the time a sympathizer of that party did a terror oopsie.
@phillip ... ''gone'' ?? Have you been living under a rock ?
I donate to Wikipedia at the end of every year. This year I clicked the automated monthly donation button.
We need more Taylor Swift billionaires, and many fewer Elon Musks.
We need more people destorying the planet with jet fuel? Nah, get that shit out of here.
The uninformed can be controlled easier than forcing the informed to bow to control.
The mathematics section of Wikipedia is sooooo useful.
The botany section is so fucking useful. I can get info on every existing plant for free? Everything from how they reproduce, how to identify them, habitats, cultural importance, who coined/described them scientifically, and helpful diagrams of their anatomy? And i don't have to pay a subscription fee like every other plant identifier app does? I can pay if I want to chip in but it's not going to lock me out if I can't? Amazing
The linguistics part is INSANELY useful. Literal gateway to all known research articles about almost any language? It's a literal goldmine. Same with astronomy...
Please donate to The Internet Archive as well/instead.
Both is good
Hadn’t thought of that! I’ll do that also!
Wiki is my go to for a first look at a new research project. And I supported them too.
I am really looking forward to “X” becoming the new “MySpace”.
Yes! It will become lastweeks newspaper.
Getting there fast. Musk has resorted to pulling checkmarks from his far-right critics today.
Check out Malcom Nance and his advice on building a resistance movement. He's got a great suggestion regarding x.
@@Jaina1971 damn that's wild. So much of a control freak that he can't even handle right wing critique of his actions existing.
And so, he made it so "verification" is now not a marker of being functionally verified by the public as accurate, but now:
1. Bought
2. Revoked to his personal convenience (hint, neona**s don't get theirs revoked)
@@Jaina1971 He also forces checkmarks on his more popular left-wing critics.