PANNING: A MORE DYNAMIC CQB THRESHOLD ASSESSMENT TACTIC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มิ.ย. 2022
- Our primary instructor on this video is Jason Ransome of Ransome Tactical Solutions. Check out his Instagram page of the same name.
This video discusses the how and why for a panning technique. You may have seen something different or been trained differently. We are not saying this is THE way to address a door, it is simply A way. We show multiple other methods, which are coming up in this video series. This is just one piece of the whole picture. You can’t or won’t get the whole picture from watching videos. Come validate with an in-person experience.
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Would love to see some solo pistol work if that would ever be on the table for you guys
Yeah we can do that
Technically, he did with that set up 😆
Look up Mike Glover if you want to. He has a really good pistol technique and mindset for single man pistol clearing and other room clearing videos man they are good.
@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 Please do Pistol, and/or also a PDW/SMG like an MP7 or Micro-Roni cqb work please!! These are way more common to have for home defense where I am from than an M4, MK18, or 416. Personally, the MP7 is actually my personal home defense weapon, and it’s movements and manipulations are different than a bit rifle. So that would be very helpful. Any PDW cqb tutorial.
It's the same with any weapon
I appreciate that you explain this with keeping your rifle on your strong side as opposed these internet tacticians insist that you switch sides that your rifle is on. Now I appreciate practicing stuff like weak side clearing/shooting, however in battle I would like to keep the rifle on my strong side as much as possible. I feel like tactically that's where I'm going to have the biggest advantage. Great video, thanks for the Intel, keep it up!
You're not wrong. Back in 03-06 Iraq, we were basically doing on the job learning figuring this shit out... fancy CQB wasn't really codified yet. My team would swap out lefties and righties if we could (it didn't happen often). Then we watched the Marines simply chucking grenades through windows and using stepladders to get onto roofs, and realized "hell, if they're making it up as they go so are we". Shit was wild back then. It's crazy for me to see how far the game has evolved since then... I could've done some serious damage with this knowledge then.
Aaaand now you're dead from overexposure. Good job.
Keep it up boys! Brilliance in the basics! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
As usual an amazingly informative video.
Came for the tactics, stayed for the impressions.
Awesome! Great info guys!
"His carrier full of bok choy" lmfao 😂😂
Great video, keep on doing Gods work bro
Solo CQB can be done and it’s not as ineffective as you hear people say they simply have never done Solo CQB. Silence, Speed, & Surprise. And of course Violence of Action being king in all Fights put Rounds on Target before rounds are on you ! Direct Fire 🔥 on your target destroys the Mental Game as it will for you ! And REMEMBER carbine Rounds & Handgun Rounds will go through Drywall like it’s not there so you can be with a 4 man Team and someone makes a Sound and an Enemy can Start shooting through 6 or 8 or 10 walls and end you and your buddies and if your Stateside shooting blind through walls even when taking fire can end you if the rounds don’t !! That’s where violence of Action comes to play. Cover & concealment are two different things entirely, drywall is concealment not cover. Cover stops bullets.
Excellent.
YES
Shooting on the move is very important in room to room fighting. That's why it is very important to learn how to walk properly.
Could I have a video on stair techniques? Thanks
Every video needs the blooper reel
wow just wow
😎 yee
So difference between Pie and Pan is.. Pie is slower, often static shooting - Pan is faster, often dynamic shooting.
Also, does Pieing and Panning a room only apply during entry?
Good job messieurs
cqb enhanced
So glad you guys did pan stuff for Pride Month
Gay.
@@JEJAK5396 yes, you are correct. That is what’s pride month is about.
When you're panning from the right to left side at 2:59, why didn't you switch shoulders? That would help reduce your exposure right?
Switching shoulders on a rapid movement is largely theatrical. Think about the level of exposure vs the time of exposure. It’s all about processing speed. I reduce my natural ability to process ie react by switching to my non dominant side. Not a good idea during a movement.
What’s the difference between cutting the pie?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but when would you use panning vs pie technique?
Good question, the environment and mission could be good driving factors. The composition of the structure for example.
Insanely good video. But I’m curious, dont you want to switch shoulders with your rifle depending on which side your panning from?
I would say which ever you can do most comfortable at . If you are extremely good at switching then do that but if you aren’t then run normal.
Well you're already potentially going to be shooting on the move. Doing it on support side shoulder will impact your hits even more. Just my two cents.
A simple and basic question
How to enter in a room with closed door and someone inside the room is aiming at door with an ak47?
Chase da wabit.
Slow n Smooth Smooth is Fast
Cheers
Suppressor obscuration in opening video when white light blasts suppressor and shadows out. Fix with cantilevered light bar mount.
Your cantilevered light bar won’t survive the first impact with the corner of a concrete wall.
What’s the training system you are using in the rifle? I didn’t understand when you said it. Thanks in advance
It's called a mantis blackboard.
Typo... Mantis Blackbeard
Kinda looks like Jason Sudeikis with a beard.
You've already broke the threshold if you've taken that many shots. Which means you've already exposed yourselves. And love how you make up your own term with the pan techniques over the pie. Are you doing hostage rescue or direct action?
The 4：31 you said stop momentum. I just wonder is that momentum must be coordination on whole attck procedures？how it work？make enemy ambushed by your
attack or donging negative behavior？
I think keep momentum and activeness（initiative） are proportiona，more momentun hold by your team，you can do more
positive attck，is that ture？
And l found more many people said activeness can be big effect in a gunfight，how it work？
If some holding a gun ponint pointing at the doorway（He stand on the hard corner）,as active attack, I even have better tactical advantage？how？
You sir must do FOF everyday，please answer me.
naww i hope youre not a ccp spy
what type or what is the name of the plate carriers, you two are wearing ?????
Jared has a Velocity SCARAB and Jason has a HRT HRAC
So when would you Pie and when would you Pan!? Good content Bros.
Mission and Environment drive that choice
Why would you not look through your sight?
Is it Pan or Pam?
Opinion coming up: I think, if you pie then you need to move at a tempo that you can stop immediately as soon as you see a threat and isolate that treat, as opposed to moving a certain speed, where you may not be able to accurately hit a target deep in the room, while on the move and where you might accidentally expose yourself to two threats at once. Now, to be fair, if the room is as shallow as in the vid, you can move faster and still achieve that. Maybe they teach that at the actual course idk. Also I personally would rather point my body towards the threshold and expose my foot at the same time as my gun, somewhat crab-walking. Disagree with me if you like.
Is it good to switch shoulders from right to left or left to right depending on what direction your going in? You’d think you’d want the enemy to be looking down your muzzle than to see your chicken winged arm first
Yes, it is, but you have to train
Only cons i see is that when you engage on the move you are fixed at the target while you are exposing to the other deep corner and not processing the rest of the room, if there is another target in the unknown it could be a really dangerous situation than stop, engage and move on again, yes you told that if you stop you are exposing your whole silhouette, it is true but you are exposing to a part of the room that you have already cleared, what's your opinion?
I think you can do everything right and still got shot. You’re right that’s definitely a risk, but as you break from that center threat you should be switching to the far apex. Definitely takes training!
I don’t know, I feel like if I’m panning a door, see a threat, my order of operations changes, because I’m now in a fight and need to end it and get out of that threshold. Like, I’m doing the pan to change sides of entry on the door and to get insight on what’s inside from the outside of the threshold. So if I engage but stop movement to eliminate the threat Im spending more time in that fatal funnel, killzone, etc. and I’m running a greater risk of not being able to keep my gun in the fight due to taking rounds. Where as, if I engage while moving, I may lose a couple steps worth of sight inside the room, leaving uncleared space, but I’m alive to be able to look back into the room from the other side to gain that back. I see what you mean too though! I think it’s all in how you’re training.
@@bandokommando666 i agree with your concept but threshold is not cover, threat can engage you through the wall.
Yes, you will spend more time in the fatal funnel but to a part of the room already cleared. In any case, while you end panning hoping to not be hit by the threat, you will already triggered any threat inside the room, you will have no chance other than use distraction devices or alternate breaching point (because you lost momentum/surprise).
@@sofit Well of course it’s not cover and that’s also a good point, but you’re still out of sight, a benefit on its own. Hell, if it’s the best thing you can get, take it. It atleast allows you to not ruin your teams movement momentum and Once you’re out of sight on the other side of the threshold, you can regain sight of that uncleared space that you missed while engaging.
@@sofit once you get to the other side, you should be changing elevation too. Expect shots to be coming at where they last knew your head was. They'll be sending hate at where they think your head still was and your teammates will be able to clean up distracted targets should other people be in that room.
pretty swert front trunk you have there. how do you position that so its not a huge pain?
I do not understand the question
@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 *sweet*. Front trunk= fanny pack. Just worn in front. Love the utility but mine seems like it gets in the way of my duty belt. Especially in a patrol car.
The model of plate Carrier of Jared? 6094? Thanks
Velocity Systems Scarab
Are y’all runnin Kobalt Kinetics? Just curious cus I’m outta Saint George.
I don’t know what that means
@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 lol nvm, I was referring to your uppers.
LWRC for me and Jason.
I'd live in a shipping container but I can't afford a block of land
3:26 spotted skinny jeans. That should be prohibited
How did Jason cant his Pistol Kiwis like that?
They sell them this way now
Your thumbnail looks like Rittenhouse. That would’ve been awesome!!!
Pan or Pam….
Isn't this the same as "cutting the pie"?
I think the difference is on the momentum of processing the information. When cutting the pie, you're processing information one step at a time (angle by angle, like narrow to 45 to 90 till 180). While on panning, you want to receive information slightly faster and to get a big picture by keeping the movement until you reach the opposite angle. Then again, as Jared said it dictates by your man power, mission set, and environment. Maybe if you have enough space of room, not a hostage rescue mission or any other type of fast pace mission, or maybe you're alone, you can do the pie. And vice versa. Just my two cents as enthusiastic civv about this topic tho🍻😅