I feel like ninja sword is a perfect fit for Mind's Eye play style with its long blue sharpness and since you don't need to hit weakpoints in order to crit. That also makes Sneak Attack quite fitting which comes along with the Adrenaline Rush. So I would try to aim for Attack Boost, Crit Boost, Mind's Eye, Sneak Attack, Adrenaline Rush and Offensive Guard. Since most of these skills are percentage based I wouldn't bother with rampage deco slot and go straight for the base raw damage increase. +15 base raw is actually +5% damage increase with no condition also Buddy Rally is pretty decent rampage skill if you're using palamutes even thou it's not damage directly dealt by you. Anyway It would create unique playstyle that could possibly match certain monsters that don't have easily reachable weakpoints or so.
I have tried a Mind's Eye/Sneak Attack build with the Ninja Master Sword. In order for the build to work, you have to constantly strike a hitzone on the back that is as close to 37 as possible, but not exceeding 37. Unfortunately, none of the monsters in the game really fit these criteria. Additionally, sns benefits a lot more when attacking from the front because of KOs, so I don't see Sneak Attack being too useful for sns in general unless you want to really farm tails or something.
@@SKY85sr I've tried it myself yersteday and came to the same conclusion that Sneak Attack isn't all that great. However I still like using Mind's Eye with ninja sword.
Yeah I only feel the ninja sword is good with the less comfortable skills like mail of hailfire ext. But it's still not worth the loss in damage especially with how easy it is to make damage/comfy balanced builds in rise
I loved this sns is base rise a lot. Whether green bludg or blue master touch build. I tried to make it work in sunbreak but it fell off real quick. If it had white with handi, i might make a set made but it’s honestly not worth it. Keep hoping as quiros crafting gets better it might be decent but nothing as of TU3. Still the best fashion sns though
@@SKY85sr thanks! I still think in general scorned sns and lunatic rose are the better options, but maybe against a monster that is resistant to both blast and poison, and doesn’t have a strong elemental weakness, a raw option is still the best
Yeah, I stopped using this weapon after base Rise. My go to in general are Scorned SnS and Lunatic Rose. And I have an elemental build for every element, just in case. Blue sharpness is really trash.
i used Hi Ninja for a very long time because of how comfy it was, no sharpness management, at all, completely eliminated i used handicraft 1, to get 10 hits of blue sharpness, that combod with masters touch, thats 50 hits of blue in High Rank it was very nice, but in Sunbreak, its outright terrible, nobody should be running blue sharpness, it would be far more viable if 1 level of handi could give it 10 hits of white, but no 🤷♂
How do you get the master rank version of this? I have the high-rank version and I want to upgrade it so I can have the laid weapon. But the tree only has ??? For the master rank versions.
It was amazing in hr because of green sharpness pluss 100% crit combined with blunt and crit boost. It made knock out sns viable. But now it suck, as element is much stronger in mr
I love this sword but I don’t chase the meta, I like hunting and roaming the map at the same time. And beside it looks so cool so I made a ninja layered armor and I fully emerg myself into the roll play hahahaha have fun hunting people don’t get too hooked up on meta, it’s only one way to enjoy the game
Long time SNS player here. Unlike many here, I actually didn't start using ninja sword until title update 2. As the monsters got stronger, random teammates died faster, hence quest failures. Many seem to forget SNS could deal damage, stun AND help heal/boost att/def. The only weapon that can use items with weapon out. Here's one of my pre 3.0 sets that I use to help out in team situations Main skills are: Agitator 5, guard 5, wide-range 5, att boost 4, defiance 4, crit boost 3, slugger 3, off guard 3, speed eating 3, free meal 3, embolden 3, stun resistance 3, wirebug 2, burst 2, mind's eye 2, guard up, intrepid heart, bird, etc You'd be surprised as to how much faster quests can be completed when your teammates don't have to worry ever about healing, unless they get one shot. Also helps when you can KO the monsters 2-3 times.
Pre sunbreak hi ninja sword was somewhat usable with a bludgeoner build with KO. With the the upgrade hi ninja sword now have blue sharpness which does not benefit bludgeoner at all. Its utter trash now and its only use is for fashion.
I'm confused about your weakness exploit point. Doesn't weakness exploit just give your more affinity when attacking a weak spot, or does it do something else I'm not aware of?
He meant that because it ninja sword has 100% affinity, there’s not point to using weakness exploit and it would be worthless, but it raises the damage of the other weapons with average affinity allowing them to surpass ninja sword in damage
see, i get it. but it just works, its so simple, so easy to use, no handicraft, no protective polish, no crit eye... my set has atk boost 7 crit boost and off guard + defiance, def boost and divine blessing, theres more too. point is, its comfy, it deals good dmg and works pretty well against afflicted mons too
If you want to continue using the Ninja Master Sword, that's fine. Just know that you can make a set that's just as comfy and deals more damage if you switch to the Lunatic Rose.
Yeah the blue sharpness in the base game was a fair trade for 100% affinity. It allowed you to sacrifice just a bit of dps to open room on your build. I made so many sets. Wide range support, bubbly dance/hellfire, and others, all with maxed attack crit boost and other offensive skills. In master rank though, blue sharpness is really hard to justify at all unfortunately
@@SKY85sr tbf, in base Rise; Bludgeoner helped boost the power of the Hi-Ninja Sword by quite a lot... now that skill is non-existent in Master Rank... probably because if you are still attacking with Green Sharpness in Master Rank; then you're fundamentally playing the game wrong
@@SKY85sr I am actually in favor of taking more parts per hunt, because of the rare parts that come from breaking parts and the skills that increase the rewards in the armor or in the meal. one downside for poison is killing or capturing the moster while it is still barely broken. that is a fun factor for me too, cutting tails and finding a way to break the wings and so.
@@SKY85sr thx, i am playing MH since MH1 in the PS1 or 2 i don't remember. I played hundreds of hours in every game, some times one time as male and another as a female just to see the armors. I know the gender can be changed but where is fun in that 🦖
I used Hi Ninja Sword because it was super comfy and actually looked like a functional sword lol (also uppercutting monsters ftw). I've just always hated how the MH series always 1. had some of the ugliest weapons I've ever seen in a video game and 2. the ugly weapons were the strong ones strong and vice versa (if there were any good looking weapons at all). I was thinking of picking the base game + DLC for Steam but now I'm not sure.
ima be honest I was hoping that this would help me like sns cause it looks cool but hearing that it is the lows of all the sns I'm kinda like dam that sucks
If only you knew what atrocities I did with a build meant exclusively for this weapon. With the right skills and playstyle the damage you can output with this weapon can be ludicrous.
i'll be honest this sword was really funny to use in base rise since you could run bludgeoner to make up for the green sharpness but now it's pr much rip now, esp with how easily we can bump up our affinity
SCAM is when u used a half asz skills to make it look bad XD its not a normal weapon like others and requires mastery to use it a mastery that not everyone has we see whats really lacking here XD understanding the weapon and every skill available who would do such thing? its a "waste of time" "just use meta build like the rest" thats what everyone says lol not everyone knows how to experiment sadly XD
Okay, sure, but your golden sword only deals that 820 35% of the time. Because of this complication you also have to DECREASE the bonus you get from crit boss by 65% to get the average damage boost, which will be around 1.14, whilst the NMS deals 723 passively. Just nitpicking. NMS is good if you want consistent damage and more upkeep on your attacks instead of having to think about crit bonuses, meaning it is a very good choice for beginners that want to learn the weapon far into the game, like I did. MHR is not a difficult game before you reach Master Rank, so I never needed to start making actual builds before it. While yes I agree the three level one slots are more or less worthless, unless you want full stun resistance, which again, is a thing newer players want. You also had qurious armourpieces without showing their bonuses, which contradicts with you saying that it is a "stupid mechanic and not worth doing."
And if sharpness damage is so important, why did you not use the Pure Silver Fan Hime? 320 attack, 20 fire, 10 affinity, and what looks like 60-70 hits of purple, 3 level 2 slots, but you need to use qurious for the rampage slot. Overall it is basically the NMS on steroids without the crit chance
So I know you may not want to, but I recommend that you watch my other video called "Another Ninja Master Sword Video." That video is a little more up to date. Responding to some of your statements, I'm not sure where you are pulling some of these numbers from. Lunatic Rose can be as strong as the Ninja Master Sword even without weakness exploit. See the video I recommended above. I may have said qurious armor crafting is dumb, but I never said it's not worth doing! You can easily qurious craft in an extra level one slot, or craft in a good defensive skill without any downsides. As for not showing all the armor details, I do a better job on this in some of my later videos. The Pure Silver Fan Hime was an extraordinary choice back when I made this video. Due to how qurious crafting works now, it's just alright. Not the best at anything.
I'm confused, why is having 100% affinity WORSE than weakness exploit? Isn't critting every hit better than increased crut chance on good hitzones? Or is it just because it's attack stat is lower, so you'd be better off with a better weapon using Exploit?
@@wits_end. Hitting the weak point isn't a speedrunner playstyle. That's just normal. The reason why I did speedruns of Daimyo Hermitaur was to keep as many variables controlled as possible. You can use the ninja master sword, but you have to be honest with yourself. It's not a good weapon at all.
ive only been using that ninja sword from start and till now killing mostly at around 5 to 6.10minutes and sometimes faster so yeah you are good at using bad skill with it lol when you hate a weapon so much you try to make it look bad to others stats are only good at paper, its only good if you know how to use it and its obvious u didnt use skills to fit the ninja sword lol so the problem here is that, you dont know what a good skills are for it and lacking the ability to use it well lol and theres a reason why it has "master" on its name, and u are not one to show off its true power lol oh and on that crab event, i DID 49s on it its funny right, when u said u "wasted time" (on using bad skills on it) lol whats really funny is that u made it look like a meta skill build, but it aint the right one for it lol maybe if u read every skill u might know the one to use for it oh wait it will be a "waste of time" if u did that and u will just use meta skills instead XD
Did you not watch the video? Dude did the math and ran the strongest DPS skills on the build. What imaginary skills are you running to deal more damage than him?
sooooooo. If you do not care about having the absolute best SNS in the game, I'm only 18% less efficient and constrained by decorations by using the ninja sword to cover the affinity and put in a bunch of comfort perks instead? I'm sold.
Do not bro cook. Not a single person uses the Guild tree swords for their sharpness. You pair it with attack boost, and Critical boost, and now it’s a beast.
I feel like ninja sword is a perfect fit for Mind's Eye play style with its long blue sharpness and since you don't need to hit weakpoints in order to crit. That also makes Sneak Attack quite fitting which comes along with the Adrenaline Rush. So I would try to aim for Attack Boost, Crit Boost, Mind's Eye, Sneak Attack, Adrenaline Rush and Offensive Guard. Since most of these skills are percentage based I wouldn't bother with rampage deco slot and go straight for the base raw damage increase. +15 base raw is actually +5% damage increase with no condition also Buddy Rally is pretty decent rampage skill if you're using palamutes even thou it's not damage directly dealt by you. Anyway It would create unique playstyle that could possibly match certain monsters that don't have easily reachable weakpoints or so.
I have tried a Mind's Eye/Sneak Attack build with the Ninja Master Sword. In order for the build to work, you have to constantly strike a hitzone on the back that is as close to 37 as possible, but not exceeding 37. Unfortunately, none of the monsters in the game really fit these criteria. Additionally, sns benefits a lot more when attacking from the front because of KOs, so I don't see Sneak Attack being too useful for sns in general unless you want to really farm tails or something.
@@SKY85sr I've tried it myself yersteday and came to the same conclusion that Sneak Attack isn't all that great. However I still like using Mind's Eye with ninja sword.
Yeah I only feel the ninja sword is good with the less comfortable skills like mail of hailfire ext. But it's still not worth the loss in damage especially with how easy it is to make damage/comfy balanced builds in rise
I loved this sns is base rise a lot. Whether green bludg or blue master touch build. I tried to make it work in sunbreak but it fell off real quick. If it had white with handi, i might make a set made but it’s honestly not worth it. Keep hoping as quiros crafting gets better it might be decent but nothing as of TU3. Still the best fashion sns though
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I always love watching these viddys is so informative
Thank you thank you
Ooohh...very interesting! I'm not even SnS player but enjoy watching these sort of things! Nice video, Sky!
Thank you!
It would be interesting to know which pure raw sns is the best in Sunbreak. No poison, no blast.
Royal Order and Kamura sns are the best pure raw sns in my opinion.
@@SKY85sr thanks! I still think in general scorned sns and lunatic rose are the better options, but maybe against a monster that is resistant to both blast and poison, and doesn’t have a strong elemental weakness, a raw option is still the best
Bludgeoner needs to be buffed to include blue.
Ninja sword overall isn’t good cause it’s raw is low, has no bonuses, 100 crit isn’t useful since you can get overall crit with better stats
Well it's does the Job and Looks really nice so still a Good Weapon.
Yeah, I stopped using this weapon after base Rise. My go to in general are Scorned SnS and Lunatic Rose. And I have an elemental build for every element, just in case. Blue sharpness is really trash.
i used Hi Ninja for a very long time because of how comfy it was, no sharpness management, at all, completely eliminated
i used handicraft 1, to get 10 hits of blue sharpness, that combod with masters touch, thats 50 hits of blue
in High Rank it was very nice, but in Sunbreak, its outright terrible, nobody should be running blue sharpness, it would be far more viable if 1 level of handi could give it 10 hits of white, but no 🤷♂
How do you get the master rank version of this? I have the high-rank version and I want to upgrade it so I can have the laid weapon. But the tree only has ??? For the master rank versions.
It was amazing in hr because of green sharpness pluss 100% crit combined with blunt and crit boost. It made knock out sns viable. But now it suck, as element is much stronger in mr
I love this sword but I don’t chase the meta, I like hunting and roaming the map at the same time. And beside it looks so cool so I made a ninja layered armor and I fully emerg myself into the roll play hahahaha have fun hunting people don’t get too hooked up on meta, it’s only one way to enjoy the game
Long time SNS player here.
Unlike many here, I actually didn't start using ninja sword until title update 2.
As the monsters got stronger, random teammates died faster, hence quest failures.
Many seem to forget SNS could deal damage, stun AND help heal/boost att/def. The only weapon that can use items with weapon out.
Here's one of my pre 3.0 sets that I use to help out in team situations
Main skills are:
Agitator 5, guard 5, wide-range 5, att boost 4, defiance 4, crit boost 3, slugger 3, off guard 3, speed eating 3, free meal 3, embolden 3, stun resistance 3, wirebug 2, burst 2, mind's eye 2, guard up, intrepid heart, bird, etc
You'd be surprised as to how much faster quests can be completed when your teammates don't have to worry ever about healing, unless they get one shot. Also helps when you can KO the monsters 2-3 times.
Pre sunbreak hi ninja sword was somewhat usable with a bludgeoner build with KO. With the the upgrade hi ninja sword now have blue sharpness which does not benefit bludgeoner at all. Its utter trash now and its only use is for fashion.
I'm confused about your weakness exploit point. Doesn't weakness exploit just give your more affinity when attacking a weak spot, or does it do something else I'm not aware of?
He meant that because it ninja sword has 100% affinity, there’s not point to using weakness exploit and it would be worthless, but it raises the damage of the other weapons with average affinity allowing them to surpass ninja sword in damage
If only instead of thick Blue Sharpness, this thing has thick White Sharpness. Then at least it'll be more tolerable
Yeah your right thanks for videos wanted see ninja sword final craft but if has blue sharpness then theirs no point to run it too weak
see, i get it. but it just works, its so simple, so easy to use, no handicraft, no protective polish, no crit eye... my set has atk boost 7 crit boost and off guard + defiance, def boost and divine blessing, theres more too. point is, its comfy, it deals good dmg and works pretty well against afflicted mons too
If you want to continue using the Ninja Master Sword, that's fine. Just know that you can make a set that's just as comfy and deals more damage if you switch to the Lunatic Rose.
Ninja sword was good in basic rise, before sunbreak. But there is more others good.
Yeah the blue sharpness in the base game was a fair trade for 100% affinity. It allowed you to sacrifice just a bit of dps to open room on your build. I made so many sets. Wide range support, bubbly dance/hellfire, and others, all with maxed attack crit boost and other offensive skills.
In master rank though, blue sharpness is really hard to justify at all unfortunately
Hi Ninja Sword was just okay in the base game. I wouldn't have even ranked it top 5 sns.
To get the most out of it, you need to go all in on defense, utility, and support. Avoiding crit eye and weakness exploit offers a lot of versatility
Wouldnt we also need to run minds eye too? I think blue sharpness, blue bounces off some MR monsters I think
If you don't want to bounce, then just pick a weapon with white sharpness
@@SKY85sr tbf, in base Rise; Bludgeoner helped boost the power of the Hi-Ninja Sword by quite a lot...
now that skill is non-existent in Master Rank... probably because if you are still attacking with Green Sharpness in Master Rank; then you're fundamentally playing the game wrong
How can i get this weapon? i have HR 89 and i dont have yet
what if the dogs have poison to close the gab, because they are part of the build too. but I don't know how fast they usually need to inflict poison.
You could give your dogs poison weapons, but then you miss out on other statuses like paralysis, so the gap wouldn't close as much as you'd think.
@@SKY85sr I am actually in favor of taking more parts per hunt, because of the rare parts that come from breaking parts and the skills that increase the rewards in the armor or in the meal. one downside for poison is killing or capturing the moster while it is still barely broken. that is a fun factor for me too, cutting tails and finding a way to break the wings and so.
actually I don't know if elemental damage contribute to breaking partes as well !
Elemental damage does contribute to breaking parts
@@SKY85sr thx, i am playing MH since MH1 in the PS1 or 2 i don't remember. I played hundreds of hours in every game, some times one time as male and another as a female just to see the armors. I know the gender can be changed but where is fun in that 🦖
Nice Video Mate
I used Hi Ninja Sword because it was super comfy and actually looked like a functional sword lol (also uppercutting monsters ftw). I've just always hated how the MH series always 1. had some of the ugliest weapons I've ever seen in a video game and 2. the ugly weapons were the strong ones strong and vice versa (if there were any good looking weapons at all). I was thinking of picking the base game + DLC for Steam but now I'm not sure.
I know it's not good but it's so cool to see your hunter uppercut a monster
Just use layered armor
ima be honest I was hoping that this would help me like sns cause it looks cool but hearing that it is the lows of all the sns I'm kinda like dam that sucks
If only you knew what atrocities I did with a build meant exclusively for this weapon. With the right skills and playstyle the damage you can output with this weapon can be ludicrous.
i'll be honest
this sword was really funny to use in base rise since you could run bludgeoner to make up for the green sharpness
but now it's pr much rip now, esp with how easily we can bump up our affinity
SCAM
is when u used a half asz skills to make it look bad XD
its not a normal weapon like others and requires mastery to use it
a mastery that not everyone has
we see whats really lacking here XD
understanding the weapon and every skill available
who would do such thing? its a "waste of time"
"just use meta build like the rest"
thats what everyone says lol
not everyone knows how to experiment sadly XD
I'm just gonna assume your comments are ironic.
Okay but can we have it as a layered?
Yes
@@SKY85sr ty :)
Okay, sure, but your golden sword only deals that 820 35% of the time. Because of this complication you also have to DECREASE the bonus you get from crit boss by 65% to get the average damage boost, which will be around 1.14, whilst the NMS deals 723 passively. Just nitpicking.
NMS is good if you want consistent damage and more upkeep on your attacks instead of having to think about crit bonuses, meaning it is a very good choice for beginners that want to learn the weapon far into the game, like I did. MHR is not a difficult game before you reach Master Rank, so I never needed to start making actual builds before it.
While yes I agree the three level one slots are more or less worthless, unless you want full stun resistance, which again, is a thing newer players want. You also had qurious armourpieces without showing their bonuses, which contradicts with you saying that it is a "stupid mechanic and not worth doing."
And if sharpness damage is so important, why did you not use the Pure Silver Fan Hime? 320 attack, 20 fire, 10 affinity, and what looks like 60-70 hits of purple, 3 level 2 slots, but you need to use qurious for the rampage slot. Overall it is basically the NMS on steroids without the crit chance
So I know you may not want to, but I recommend that you watch my other video called "Another Ninja Master Sword Video." That video is a little more up to date.
Responding to some of your statements, I'm not sure where you are pulling some of these numbers from. Lunatic Rose can be as strong as the Ninja Master Sword even without weakness exploit. See the video I recommended above.
I may have said qurious armor crafting is dumb, but I never said it's not worth doing! You can easily qurious craft in an extra level one slot, or craft in a good defensive skill without any downsides. As for not showing all the armor details, I do a better job on this in some of my later videos.
The Pure Silver Fan Hime was an extraordinary choice back when I made this video. Due to how qurious crafting works now, it's just alright. Not the best at anything.
Yes ninja sword is inferior we know this pretty well…but it looks so cool tho…
I'm confused, why is having 100% affinity WORSE than weakness exploit? Isn't critting every hit better than increased crut chance on good hitzones?
Or is it just because it's attack stat is lower, so you'd be better off with a better weapon using Exploit?
Yeah, it's because of the lower attack stat.
I prefer the ninja sword over the sweat
as long the monster dies within the time limit it doesn’t matter me
@@wits_end. that makes a lot of sense
@@wits_end. Hitting the weak point isn't a speedrunner playstyle. That's just normal. The reason why I did speedruns of Daimyo Hermitaur was to keep as many variables controlled as possible.
You can use the ninja master sword, but you have to be honest with yourself. It's not a good weapon at all.
Bro useing math to cook😂
Ninja sword canceled for sure after this...
yes
ive only been using that ninja sword from start and till now
killing mostly at around 5 to 6.10minutes and sometimes faster
so yeah you are good at using bad skill with it lol
when you hate a weapon so much you try to make it look bad to others
stats are only good at paper, its only good if you know how to use it
and its obvious u didnt use skills to fit the ninja sword lol
so the problem here is that, you dont know what a good skills are for it and lacking the ability to use it well lol
and theres a reason why it has "master" on its name, and u are not one to show off its true power lol
oh and on that crab event, i DID 49s on it
its funny right, when u said u "wasted time" (on using bad skills on it) lol
whats really funny is that u made it look like a meta skill build, but it aint the right one for it lol
maybe if u read every skill u might know the one to use for it
oh wait it will be a "waste of time" if u did that and u will just use meta skills instead XD
Please tell me this is ironic. This just sounds so poorly written.
Did you not watch the video? Dude did the math and ran the strongest DPS skills on the build. What imaginary skills are you running to deal more damage than him?
Dam unfortunate for me I guess
OMG! 15 sec faster! Ninja Sword is unusable!
sooooooo. If you do not care about having the absolute best SNS in the game, I'm only 18% less efficient and constrained by decorations by using the ninja sword to cover the affinity and put in a bunch of comfort perks instead?
I'm sold.
18% less dmg on weakpoints but 40% more dmg to none weak points. Crazy if you think about it.
Also you crit on every body part hit. The test in the vid assumes perfect play. So, if you're not trying to be sweaty- ninja sword is fine.
It's a okay AR starter weapon. But yeah it's garbage.
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Do not bro cook. Not a single person uses the Guild tree swords for their sharpness. You pair it with attack boost, and Critical boost, and now it’s a beast.