MODS PRIORITY docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cgqBnFoY6YQ4oH0iYvMaANqsk176MLNOT-0O3QbMaYw/edit?gid=0#gid=0 Spear and shield or iron defense th-cam.com/video/q29onnZs4oE/w-d-xo.html Edit I have removed the part for sharen because overcharged edge is so bugged. there is way more issues that overwhelming HP. Shes gonna get her own video tomorrow.
Hey ryechew did you see Freyna isn't benefitting from tech skill power modifier, I had just noticed none of my stats increase with it equipped. But base skill power modifier does?
And use one of the ultimate resistance mods. Sure you're not at the "recommended" resistance, but you outright nullify the DoT damage, keeping you alive almost all the time. Also, learn to friggin dodge attacks. That stupid solo dps TH-camr build isn't gonna help in pugs. So many glass cannons doing no damage, especially when they're laying on the floor causing me to pick their stupid asses up and causing 2xs the loss in DPS.
Literally just slapping in Increased HP more than doubles your EHP, which translates to eating multiple Colossus attacks and shrugging it off. These glass cannon build TH-camrs are just absolute rot on the game's community, I swear.
I find the "Immunity" mods the best bang for your buck. Slap the appropriate one on and you only deal with direct damage, which is fantastic for a mod that costs 6 capacity
Its crazy what 1-2 survival mod's could do for you on bosses, wish ppl would wear something bc watching them get one tapped by an auto attack is mind numbing.
This is terrific, thank you! I wasn't always clear on how much survivability was enough or too much. Of course, that will partly depend on my own skill. lol I appreciate the chart.
I think the group of mods that antifreeze solution is in are really underrated. At rank 1 they completely make you immune to the corresponding DoTs. I usually keep them at rank one so I don’t have to match the polarity slot when I need them. You should try them out
For Sharen, it's much better to build mainly HP and then use Overwhelming HP. Sharen invi gives bonus dmg depending on how much shield she consumed, and you cannot use the skill if you have less than 15% shield. This mean if you have any amount of shield at all, repeated use of Overcharged Edge decreases its effectiveness, and there's also period where you can't use the skill at all (got hit by boss, shield down to 0) and have to wait for the shield to recover. However, when you use Overwhelming HP, the buff from Overcharged Edge is always at maximum effectiveness, and it also does not require you to have any shield to use the skill. So you can build for 90% cdr (w/ the use of multitalented, since Overcharged Edge is also a Dimension skill), and have the skill up at full effectiveness for every single sniper shot (or every single Perforator shot too if you wish to use a big hit hand cannon :) )
that is 100% a bug/exploit though. any build that uses that would have to get remade when they fix the exploit yes? but i might add that to comments or add some and reload the video
@@ryechew im not sure if its actually a bug or not. But if it is, you would run as little shield as possible and roll "Shield regen in combat" on the memory, that would solved the problem. If you consumed 50% of Sharen shield you would get 50% dmg bonus, so its better to make sure you regen your shield asap, rather than building a big shield.
@@ryechew how is it a bug/exploit though, you cant just throw around "IT IS 100% ONE!" without knowing it is for sure, and considering how the interaction works, the use of the mod doesnt scream its a bug or exploit.
@Snowydays there is no way they intentionally wanted you to have unlimited resources to triple the output of the strongest weapons in the game while going invisible, while increasing your HP. I am positive it's an exploit.
one thing i'd disagree is putting Gley into skill dps - she can be and it makes her plenty strong, but if we're going the vestigial organ route for just infinite launcher(ofc she deals less damage then) she should be built like an absolute hp unit with decent def/resists - one she can fully benefit from all of the -shield, -mp mods with no drawbacks so running her with 20k+hp, 36k def and an appropriate elemental resist mod is not only possible but pretty useful - and since she sacrifices her hp% to bast skills-you'd actually want decent def and resists for her because since she she "loses" static hp% from skills she would actually benefit from making the most of her remaining hp. for a launcher build i'd actually just go full on cooldown/duration/cost and put the remaining slots into building a decent tank. skill damage is not really needed for that route.. and that setup actually makes her the person who stands up when everyone else falls at Gluttony ;)
I feel like 'An Iron will' gets slept on, my Viessa uses it and at R0 plus a max blue hp and def mods. Just this alone allows her to survive intercept aggro... because idk why but them bosses up til obstructer hates my Viessa. People will call my survivability crap but guess what? I can walk off a dead bride snow globe while they can't so yea...
just having a small amount of boost to shield first does wonders, from then on HP pretty much gives the most effective hit points. spear and shield is good because more shield than that has diminishing returns and the 8% skill power boost is really nice
stacking shields on sharen is bad due to how the game works. overcharged just cares about how much % u consumed for the invis, not how much shield value u used. this means that its better to run 100 shield than 30k shield due to how hard it would be to regen the latter, meaning that u would be rendered unable to camo for a long time if u got hit once, whereas if u have low shield value ur likely able to regen it quite fast as the skill is consuming less u also get a slight increase in dmg if u increase the skill cost of the skill cus this game is great. similarly, u will do less dmg if u add strong mentality/maximize conservation so i would advise against that
I love how in depth you go in your videos! It’s definitely helped me know what I need to focus on in the game. Is there any way to find out what materials are used for? I’m always finding crafting materials but don’t know what they are used for. Also I don’t want to end up crafting something just because I can and then have to end up farming for them again when I find out I need them for something else that I actually want.
nah its pretty bad with the icd, if you want real cc potential for elites, take something like sword/tonfa sub attack module and get your skill cooldown as low as possible, jump and then melee for perma stun lock on all elites, its hilarious
No love for Increased DEF? Don't see it listed in the spreadsheet at all. Do you just prefer Iron Defense/Spear and Shield more? Also HP Conversion (Shield) and Weighing the Scales are both 'Shield' type modules and can't both be equipped. The spreadsheet lists HP Conversion as a 'Defense' type.
I think people worry about set bonuses too much even though they may have terrible main stats for your descendant. I just run normal gold components with hp with the blue hp mod everybody is easily over 10k health.
Is this telling me that I should choose An Iron Will/HP Conversion before I even consider Increased HP? Increased HP is usually the first mod I slot on anyone... Also, should these be maxed out based on priority as well? Finally, I don't think a skill DPS can run 4 survival mods. Are you saying pick a 0 and 1 before a 2 and a 3?
Expanding on my confusion: if I pick a 0 and 1 for my Lepic I get defense on two modules and no HP (or I lose it with conversion). How is that better than Increased HP and Spear and Shield (a 1 and 2?)
So if a descendant is an HP descendant, is it best to keep pumping the HP? Normally I use the maxed increased hp mod and the maxed defense mod and complement those with some more from the external components.
I have 6k shield on DPS Luna and it's gorgeous. On Support Luna though I run HP cause I like Battle of Stam extra duration.... But It's still in the air a bit as I need to test more her sonic set for support.
@@ryechew they gave her a really nice avenue for farming, she just has too niche a use right now for me to have any fun with her. Also I'm more than a little upset with some of the parts she replaced in the old amorphous materials. One of her replaced parts was a Yujin drop in an easy reactor, now that Yujin part can only be earned from hard intercepts.
@@sirgoreth9176 It isn't that she's "too niche", she's just poorly designed. This is made all the more frustrating by the fact that literally all she needs is a few simple tweaks to her existing kit (nothing needs to be removed, and nothing new needs to be added) and she'd be super strong.
@@ryechewYup noise surge makes her seraphine from league of legends and changes all her animations for her songs. She just a weaker bunny with it though.
auto immunity is garbage once u get past the 3rd set of bosses, its cap is soo low that you would be better off farming for a def+ specific resistance gold comp instead of wasting a mod slot on that
Yujin has 1.5 points more base shield recovery then the next down. Kyle is oddly the lowest in shield recovery, given both his tank and skill runs off shields. Luna is skill DPS, her unique gun is always out regardless if going skill dps or party buffing. If running with guns, she uses literally zero skills and puts her behind everyone.
Kyle doesn't need shield recharge, his abilities recharge his magnetic force. Yujin Regens health with abilities. And I see no skill damage modifiers on her skills. But I don't have her so there is a question mark.
You miss safe recovery. This mod reduce 4.5% incoming damage with cost 4 include outgoing heal 4%. If you don't have plan for healer use it still good combine with guard category mod for 15%. I hope they release better medical mod with reduce 4.5% incoming damage but main stat more useful like increase hp recovery.
I see there have been some changes to the Absolute Zero build from your "How to Build Viessa" video. Are there any changes to the Cold-Bloodedness build to accommodate any more survivability since it only has Spear and Shield?
@DrSmirnoff I plan to do an update on Kyle and viessa soon. I feel like people aren't doing builds justice by trying to do two things. I combined builds but I should have gone Adds absolute Or voids cold blooded I went both
I would disagree with Viessa being a shield-focused Descendant. She can make use of shields, but you shouldn't overly invest in them. Grabbing shield on your processor, and then possibly using Increased Shield (depending on the rest of your build) is all you should really do for her.
@hexerin lol. I mean it really depends. Like I said you can go either. I know if I maxed my shield output to like 4k then maxed my cool down, every 5 seconds I get 10% of shield back. Hows that not great lol
@@ryechew HP scales significantly better and easier than shield, which results in significantly better EHP gains without making the sacrifices that scaling shields demands. Investing in HP also improves your recovery from HP orbs, whereas shields have no recovery orbs. You still get shields from Frost Road on top of that, serving the purpose of mitigating damage over time. Frost Road's shield recovery gets overvalued far too much by too many people.
@@arcann7 Cold-Bloodedness removes the shield recovery, so if you're building with that transcendent then you don't want to invest in shield at all period.
You mention Viessa so much, but I'm baffled that you don't have her listed in Skill DPS..... Viessa, in all her builds is heavily skill focused. Essentially a Spell Slinger (especially with Cold-Bloodedness and having -90% maxed CD's). Note on Gley: - If using Massacre, then yes, 60-70% or so of her DPS comes from Skill Power, while the rest is from the gun. - If not using Massacre, then 0% of her DPS is coming from Skill Power (above for bossing builds, if doing Massive Sanguification AoE, then it's pure 100% Skill Power)
@@martinjaehrling Hmm, may need some tweaking, but this one is decent - Hypothermia - Long-Distance Maneuvering - Front Lines - Emergency Measures - Skill Simplification - Focus on Chill - Skill Concentration - Skill Insight - Skill Extension - Nimble Fingers - Increased HP - Walk a Tightrope. With a build like that, she's good in both mobbing and bossing (this includes 30s Pyromaniac on Hard kills). A big proponent in Hypothermia builds is buffing the DoT's she does, along with Blizzard (as with all her builds). I would probably take time to further refine this (probably replace Walk a Tightrope with things like Dangerous Ambush, as hopefully you're not dropping that low in HP, though Dangerous Ambush realistically triggers only when the colossi are downed....). Anywho, that should at least get you started.
Hello ! I know it might not be the place but : I'm pretty sure that predator instinct Gley transcendant mod don't work. My damages don't grow while firing and are lower than if don't use the mod so ... maybe i'm just dumb boy... or there is a probleme... I tested with Gley and ultimate Gley, same result. Sorry for my bad english !
Shields are horrible for defense. The only reason to use them is for damage on Kyle not for survivability. Health+defense and running all health and defense only external components will make you much more tanky. Even on low health descendants. Add a maxed HP collector with just a maxed increased HP mod your survivability goes through the roof. Every two seconds getting 9% of you health plus mobs drop heal drops not shield it's a crazy amount of survivability. I avoid any shield external components on most classes. Example with a ulti. lepic just with maxed HP increase and increase def mod with just 4 HP increases on external components gives you over 12,000 health and just two def on external components gives you over 30,000 defense. With a maxed HP collector that almost 1200 HP every 2 seconds on kill. You add a second HP mod like HP Amplification you well over 20,000 HP even on low HP descendants. Given health on kill and HP pick ups health is by far better for survivability in most cases then shields.
2 issues I see within the first 2 minutes. First Viessa is a skill dps descendant and that’s thanks to both cold-bloodedness and absolute zero. You will get the most bang for your buck if you build Viessa as skill dps. She doesn’t need shields. Sharen also isn’t a shield descendant for a different reason, mainly because you don’t want to give her shields with her overcharge mod. Reason being is how that works, you need % shield recharged ASAP otherwise you will be waiting for an eternity to get your shields back. If she has more than 400-500 shields, her shield overcharge loses efficiency because you’re consuming 50% of whatever your current value of your shields are at. Sharen is always built into cooldown and you need shield regen more than shield. Keeping her shield value low is fundamentally better than increasing her shields and that means you’re really are going to build into her def/hp with shields mostly being an afterthought.
@TheGeoCheese I'm going to have to run a crazy shield walk the tight rope, shot focus build with no bug exploits now. So many descendants. So little time lol
This is all only relevant when using overcharged edge. Otherwise shields are actually pretty good on Sharen outside of intercepts, especially with super low cooldowns. And it's pretty easy to get shield stats (max + recovery and all that) from components
@@Mandingy24 actually shields are just overall bad for Sharen. You’re better off with 10k defense and stacking hp than dabbling in shields with her. Very few descendants can run shields effectively and Sharen isn’t one of them.
As an Ajax main from day 1, Ive realized shields are just as important as HP, as the shields function like extra HP(and if youve got a Yujin rebuffing your shields, youll never lose that 40k+shield anyway)
@Bignuke87 idk what you mean by double hp on both ext components as you can only get an HP substat on the auxiliary power, I've got 646 base hp rolls on everything and then a 888 substat roll then a 278 shield substat roll and with all that and I'm not using overwhelming hp I get 31k health and 26k shields so I'm wondering what mods you have on in order to get to 40+ without overwhelming hp. also if you need to look at the substat rolls they are in his vid called does defense suck at 2:23
I play tanky gley (using predator instinct + shot Focus for damage boosting). I wanted something like Inaros from warframe and she is close. I pick Bunnies off the floor all the time. Dead DPS is negative DPS (because you are making someone else stop dpsing to pick you up). Especially in pugs, a little resist and a little hp goes a long ways
tbh it kinda works on a very specialized Ajax build to just nuke with his 2 and 3. makes him a pretty glassy cannon but the numbers get pretty insane ;) (i wouldnt advocate for it because he doesn't really get enough mileage from it to be worth the sacrifice... but if you're into it....xD)
I feel like we should get an "aura" slot like warframe. I think the sub attack modules should be moved there and only sub attack or resist mods should be put there. I don't see the value in running a resist mod over more hp, shield, or def. Any other mod honestly. The immunity mods are the only ones i slot in at this point. Elemental effect immunity +7% res is amazing
It blows my mind I STILL have to pick up bunny's that have NO survivability. Literally yesterday I was farming void shards in agna desert and a lvl 40 bunny joins and insta dies like bro what are we doing.
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Edit I have removed the part for sharen because overcharged edge is so bugged. there is way more issues that overwhelming HP. Shes gonna get her own video tomorrow.
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@@TriceStreams fixed. its things like this that make me do early release from discord
Math beautiful but Shot Focus existing
Please do a video of how much an un upgraded immunity mod and an external component with gold resist to match boss does for intercepts. Even with def
Hey ryechew did you see Freyna isn't benefitting from tech skill power modifier, I had just noticed none of my stats increase with it equipped. But base skill power modifier does?
Please people spec into some sort of survivability for intercepts
Lolz. It's really not hard to slap on a survival module. Atleast 1 lol
And use one of the ultimate resistance mods. Sure you're not at the "recommended" resistance, but you outright nullify the DoT damage, keeping you alive almost all the time.
Also, learn to friggin dodge attacks. That stupid solo dps TH-camr build isn't gonna help in pugs. So many glass cannons doing no damage, especially when they're laying on the floor causing me to pick their stupid asses up and causing 2xs the loss in DPS.
@@bobmalarkey4621 I keep wanting to say ALL THAT into the game chat
Not just intercepts. Some can't even handle outposts without dying two, three times.
Literally just slapping in Increased HP more than doubles your EHP, which translates to eating multiple Colossus attacks and shrugging it off. These glass cannon build TH-camrs are just absolute rot on the game's community, I swear.
I find the "Immunity" mods the best bang for your buck. Slap the appropriate one on and you only deal with direct damage, which is fantastic for a mod that costs 6 capacity
Agree, even un-upgraded immunity mods are great.
The dot from most attacks or getting frozen is worse than the hit from the attack most times.
@@jgrif7891 I should put these in as well
@@flakcannon722 it feels equivalent to having ~20% damage reduction.
Its crazy what 1-2 survival mod's could do for you on bosses, wish ppl would wear something bc watching them get one tapped by an auto attack is mind numbing.
Do yourself a favor and get the IMMUNITY mods for each element. Immunity to freeze, electrocution, burn etc. life savers for boss fights.
This is terrific, thank you! I wasn't always clear on how much survivability was enough or too much. Of course, that will partly depend on my own skill. lol I appreciate the chart.
I think the group of mods that antifreeze solution is in are really underrated. At rank 1 they completely make you immune to the corresponding DoTs. I usually keep them at rank one so I don’t have to match the polarity slot when I need them. You should try them out
They are all A slots
@@johntolentino8827 yea but don’t use them all the time so they are not usually replacing A slot mods
For Sharen, it's much better to build mainly HP and then use Overwhelming HP.
Sharen invi gives bonus dmg depending on how much shield she consumed, and you cannot use the skill if you have less than 15% shield. This mean if you have any amount of shield at all, repeated use of Overcharged Edge decreases its effectiveness, and there's also period where you can't use the skill at all (got hit by boss, shield down to 0) and have to wait for the shield to recover.
However, when you use Overwhelming HP, the buff from Overcharged Edge is always at maximum effectiveness, and it also does not require you to have any shield to use the skill. So you can build for 90% cdr (w/ the use of multitalented, since Overcharged Edge is also a Dimension skill), and have the skill up at full effectiveness for every single sniper shot (or every single Perforator shot too if you wish to use a big hit hand cannon :) )
that is 100% a bug/exploit though. any build that uses that would have to get remade when they fix the exploit yes? but i might add that to comments or add some and reload the video
@@ryechew im not sure if its actually a bug or not. But if it is, you would run as little shield as possible and roll "Shield regen in combat" on the memory, that would solved the problem. If you consumed 50% of Sharen shield you would get 50% dmg bonus, so its better to make sure you regen your shield asap, rather than building a big shield.
@@ryechew The bug is activating overcharged edge cloak giving you back 100% of shield if you had 0. That part had nothing to do with overwhelming hp.
@@ryechew how is it a bug/exploit though, you cant just throw around "IT IS 100% ONE!" without knowing it is for sure, and considering how the interaction works, the use of the mod doesnt scream its a bug or exploit.
@Snowydays there is no way they intentionally wanted you to have unlimited resources to triple the output of the strongest weapons in the game while going invisible, while increasing your HP.
I am positive it's an exploit.
one thing i'd disagree is putting Gley into skill dps - she can be and it makes her plenty strong, but if we're going the vestigial organ route for just infinite launcher(ofc she deals less damage then) she should be built like an absolute hp unit with decent def/resists - one she can fully benefit from all of the -shield, -mp mods with no drawbacks so running her with 20k+hp, 36k def and an appropriate elemental resist mod is not only possible but pretty useful - and since she sacrifices her hp% to bast skills-you'd actually want decent def and resists for her because since she she "loses" static hp% from skills she would actually benefit from making the most of her remaining hp. for a launcher build i'd actually just go full on cooldown/duration/cost and put the remaining slots into building a decent tank. skill damage is not really needed for that route.. and that setup actually makes her the person who stands up when everyone else falls at Gluttony ;)
I feel like 'An Iron will' gets slept on, my Viessa uses it and at R0 plus a max blue hp and def mods. Just this alone allows her to survive intercept aggro... because idk why but them bosses up til obstructer hates my Viessa. People will call my survivability crap but guess what? I can walk off a dead bride snow globe while they can't so yea...
Gley does a MASSIVE amount of skill damage on her 4. The ceiling on that is crazy. She definitely belongs in the skill damage category.
@@Dark_Tesla that's what I thought thanks!!
Interesting spear and shield is priority one. I had thought hp was more important so I use increased hp in every build.
just having a small amount of boost to shield first does wonders, from then on HP pretty much gives the most effective hit points. spear and shield is good because more shield than that has diminishing returns and the 8% skill power boost is really nice
wait, I'm at a bit of a loss here, is 0 highest priority? then running one of the OR options; or what's the priority here?
stacking shields on sharen is bad due to how the game works. overcharged just cares about how much % u consumed for the invis, not how much shield value u used.
this means that its better to run 100 shield than 30k shield due to how hard it would be to regen the latter, meaning that u would be rendered unable to camo for a long time if u got hit once, whereas if u have low shield value ur likely able to regen it quite fast as the skill is consuming less
u also get a slight increase in dmg if u increase the skill cost of the skill cus this game is great. similarly, u will do less dmg if u add strong mentality/maximize conservation so i would advise against that
god dam, i love your content. thank you so much
Yujin the best survival mod hands down.
I love how in depth you go in your videos! It’s definitely helped me know what I need to focus on in the game. Is there any way to find out what materials are used for? I’m always finding crafting materials but don’t know what they are used for. Also I don’t want to end up crafting something just because I can and then have to end up farming for them again when I find out I need them for something else that I actually want.
I see your updated Viessa build snuck into another video, beautiful
Can you add a mini summary explanation to the spreadsheet itself, kind of like a legend about the priority column ?
Ille do thus tomorrow. Thanks
The module that knocks down the enemies hit by a charged sub attack has some incredible CC potential
nah its pretty bad with the icd, if you want real cc potential for elites, take something like sword/tonfa sub attack module and get your skill cooldown as low as possible, jump and then melee for perma stun lock on all elites, its hilarious
You could probably do a tier list based on how difficult the character is to build/spec mods for
i was just debating doing shield viessa- thx for video
Thank you for what you do! Great video as always 🤙
Love your in depth insights big guy.
Valby can act as controller too as she has a transcend mod that allows her to spawn a water or that taunts enemies.
No love for Increased DEF? Don't see it listed in the spreadsheet at all. Do you just prefer Iron Defense/Spear and Shield more?
Also HP Conversion (Shield) and Weighing the Scales are both 'Shield' type modules and can't both be equipped. The spreadsheet lists HP Conversion as a 'Defense' type.
That Viessa skin in got me paying attention in the beginning alright.😊
Curious about building around the frigid burn mod for Tac rifles. Seems interesting in the very least
I think people worry about set bonuses too much even though they may have terrible main stats for your descendant. I just run normal gold components with hp with the blue hp mod everybody is easily over 10k health.
@KinderHades true. But I like to deeps damage, or deeps tanker lol. I am a man of extremes
What does critical hit resistance do? Someone is hurting us with crit hits? It's useful against colossi?
What do the zeroes in the sheet mean for HP conversion DEF and an iron will? Anything to read into there?
If the game wasn't full of auto-targeted or instant damage, you could play as a glass cannon, even rolling is useless and doesn't give you any dodges.
We really need harder content so support characters can shine. Its hard enough getting into a pre made group if your not using bunny,gley or lepic.
gley groups like to have an Enzo sometimes. but yeah... it's a 3 character show right now
Is this telling me that I should choose An Iron Will/HP Conversion before I even consider Increased HP? Increased HP is usually the first mod I slot on anyone...
Also, should these be maxed out based on priority as well?
Finally, I don't think a skill DPS can run 4 survival mods. Are you saying pick a 0 and 1 before a 2 and a 3?
Expanding on my confusion: if I pick a 0 and 1 for my Lepic I get defense on two modules and no HP (or I lose it with conversion). How is that better than Increased HP and Spear and Shield (a 1 and 2?)
So if a descendant is an HP descendant, is it best to keep pumping the HP? Normally I use the maxed increased hp mod and the maxed defense mod and complement those with some more from the external components.
Gotta be honest. I understood none of that.
But I appreciate the effort so here's a like 👍
I noticed that any skill duration seems numbers are way off
Curious if you would do a calculation of it
The amount of percentage is so incorrect!
I have 6k shield on DPS Luna and it's gorgeous. On Support Luna though I run HP cause I like Battle of Stam extra duration.... But It's still in the air a bit as I need to test more her sonic set for support.
i was extremely unaware of her. I know nothing about her.
@@ryechew they gave her a really nice avenue for farming, she just has too niche a use right now for me to have any fun with her.
Also I'm more than a little upset with some of the parts she replaced in the old amorphous materials. One of her replaced parts was a Yujin drop in an easy reactor, now that Yujin part can only be earned from hard intercepts.
@sirgoreth9176 how does she do skill damage with no skill power modifiers?
Noise surge?
@@sirgoreth9176 It isn't that she's "too niche", she's just poorly designed. This is made all the more frustrating by the fact that literally all she needs is a few simple tweaks to her existing kit (nothing needs to be removed, and nothing new needs to be added) and she'd be super strong.
@@ryechewYup noise surge makes her seraphine from league of legends and changes all her animations for her songs. She just a weaker bunny with it though.
watched this twice and i have no idea what im supposed to get out of the spreadsheet
I humbly request an auto immunity vs two defense mods video please. Add in safe recovery for the fringe Yujin player as well plz.
auto immunity is garbage once u get past the 3rd set of bosses, its cap is soo low that you would be better off farming for a def+ specific resistance gold comp instead of wasting a mod slot on that
Yujin has 1.5 points more base shield recovery then the next down. Kyle is oddly the lowest in shield recovery, given both his tank and skill runs off shields.
Luna is skill DPS, her unique gun is always out regardless if going skill dps or party buffing. If running with guns, she uses literally zero skills and puts her behind everyone.
Kyle doesn't need shield recharge, his abilities recharge his magnetic force.
Yujin Regens health with abilities. And I see no skill damage modifiers on her skills. But I don't have her so there is a question mark.
You miss safe recovery. This mod reduce 4.5% incoming damage with cost 4 include outgoing heal 4%. If you don't have plan for healer use it still good combine with guard category mod for 15%.
I hope they release better medical mod with reduce 4.5% incoming damage but main stat more useful like increase hp recovery.
Aah great. Exactly what i need
I see there have been some changes to the Absolute Zero build from your "How to Build Viessa" video. Are there any changes to the Cold-Bloodedness build to accommodate any more survivability since it only has Spear and Shield?
@DrSmirnoff I plan to do an update on Kyle and viessa soon.
I feel like people aren't doing builds justice by trying to do two things. I combined builds but I should have gone Adds absolute
Or voids cold blooded
I went both
Good timing with the Gluttony damage issue
Yeah he slaughters everything lol.
So with "0" are you saying every build should have an iron will and hp conversion (def)?
I would disagree with Viessa being a shield-focused Descendant. She can make use of shields, but you shouldn't overly invest in them. Grabbing shield on your processor, and then possibly using Increased Shield (depending on the rest of your build) is all you should really do for her.
@hexerin lol. I mean it really depends. Like I said you can go either. I know if I maxed my shield output to like 4k then maxed my cool down, every 5 seconds I get 10% of shield back. Hows that not great lol
@@ryechewDoes it still work with cold bloodedness mod?
@@ryechew HP scales significantly better and easier than shield, which results in significantly better EHP gains without making the sacrifices that scaling shields demands. Investing in HP also improves your recovery from HP orbs, whereas shields have no recovery orbs. You still get shields from Frost Road on top of that, serving the purpose of mitigating damage over time. Frost Road's shield recovery gets overvalued far too much by too many people.
@@arcann7 Cold-Bloodedness removes the shield recovery, so if you're building with that transcendent then you don't want to invest in shield at all period.
@@arcann7 it doesn't. Cold bloodedness removes it
Are shields affected by defense as well?
This is confusing what does or1 or2 or3 mean I sure I wouldn't put all that on a lepic
hmmm for shield descendants, shouldnt we at least put on 1 HP mod as well given that when we revive we dont have our shield values maxed?
You mention Viessa so much, but I'm baffled that you don't have her listed in Skill DPS.....
Viessa, in all her builds is heavily skill focused. Essentially a Spell Slinger (especially with Cold-Bloodedness and having -90% maxed CD's).
Note on Gley:
- If using Massacre, then yes, 60-70% or so of her DPS comes from Skill Power, while the rest is from the gun.
- If not using Massacre, then 0% of her DPS is coming from Skill Power
(above for bossing builds, if doing Massive Sanguification AoE, then it's pure 100% Skill Power)
@@blackkat101what mods would you recommend if building Viessa with hypothermia?
@@martinjaehrling Hmm, may need some tweaking, but this one is decent
- Hypothermia
- Long-Distance Maneuvering
- Front Lines
- Emergency Measures
- Skill Simplification
- Focus on Chill
- Skill Concentration
- Skill Insight
- Skill Extension
- Nimble Fingers
- Increased HP
- Walk a Tightrope.
With a build like that, she's good in both mobbing and bossing (this includes 30s Pyromaniac on Hard kills).
A big proponent in Hypothermia builds is buffing the DoT's she does, along with Blizzard (as with all her builds).
I would probably take time to further refine this (probably replace Walk a Tightrope with things like Dangerous Ambush, as hopefully you're not dropping that low in HP, though Dangerous Ambush realistically triggers only when the colossi are downed....).
Anywho, that should at least get you started.
@@blackkat101 heroes don’t always wear capes (but sometimes cat ears) you’re the goat ❤️
Hello !
I know it might not be the place but :
I'm pretty sure that predator instinct Gley transcendant mod don't work.
My damages don't grow while firing and are lower than if don't use the mod so ... maybe i'm just dumb boy... or there is a probleme...
I tested with Gley and ultimate Gley, same result.
Sorry for my bad english !
Shields are horrible for defense. The only reason to use them is for damage on Kyle not for survivability.
Health+defense and running all health and defense only external components will make you much more tanky.
Even on low health descendants.
Add a maxed HP collector with just a maxed increased HP mod your survivability goes through the roof. Every two seconds getting 9% of you health plus mobs drop heal drops not shield it's a crazy amount of survivability.
I avoid any shield external components on most classes.
Example with a ulti. lepic just with maxed HP increase and increase def mod with just 4 HP increases on external components gives you over 12,000 health and just two def on external components gives you over 30,000 defense.
With a maxed HP collector that almost 1200 HP every 2 seconds on kill.
You add a second HP mod like HP Amplification you well over 20,000 HP even on low HP descendants.
Given health on kill and HP pick ups health is by far better for survivability in most cases then shields.
2 issues I see within the first 2 minutes.
First Viessa is a skill dps descendant and that’s thanks to both cold-bloodedness and absolute zero. You will get the most bang for your buck if you build Viessa as skill dps. She doesn’t need shields.
Sharen also isn’t a shield descendant for a different reason, mainly because you don’t want to give her shields with her overcharge mod. Reason being is how that works, you need % shield recharged ASAP otherwise you will be waiting for an eternity to get your shields back. If she has more than 400-500 shields, her shield overcharge loses efficiency because you’re consuming 50% of whatever your current value of your shields are at. Sharen is always built into cooldown and you need shield regen more than shield. Keeping her shield value low is fundamentally better than increasing her shields and that means you’re really are going to build into her def/hp with shields mostly being an afterthought.
@TheGeoCheese I'm going to have to run a crazy shield walk the tight rope, shot focus build with no bug exploits now.
So many descendants. So little time lol
This is all only relevant when using overcharged edge. Otherwise shields are actually pretty good on Sharen outside of intercepts, especially with super low cooldowns. And it's pretty easy to get shield stats (max + recovery and all that) from components
@@Mandingy24 actually shields are just overall bad for Sharen. You’re better off with 10k defense and stacking hp than dabbling in shields with her. Very few descendants can run shields effectively and Sharen isn’t one of them.
“GET OUT YOUR WAY” gave me a good laugh lol
Very in depth/good quality video as always 👍🏼
I didn't find the Increased DEF module in the table. Am I missing something?
Ypu you probably deleted it.. Has hapoened to me many times now..
Does DEF apply to Shields?
Yes.
So for overwhelming HP do think the devs would try to fix how it works on gley since she has no shield?
no. if an external component gives you shield i think you should be able to equip overwhelm to reap some of it honestly
@@ryechew Oh wow so this also works on sub stats as well this pretty crazy
Shot Focus!❤😎🍑
So glad they fixed it
@@ryechew Whats wrong with Shot Focus?
As an Ajax main from day 1, Ive realized shields are just as important as HP, as the shields function like extra HP(and if youve got a Yujin rebuffing your shields, youll never lose that 40k+shield anyway)
and if you run matrix recomputation you can insta recharge + 2x you and your teammates shields
how are you getting 40k hp on ajax? ive been building him for hp and with no overwhelming hp i sit at 31.5k
@@SAT0SHUNI you need double HP drop on both components
@@kilua87659 I wanna run it but dont wanna lose 30k in shields from body enhancement haha
@Bignuke87 idk what you mean by double hp on both ext components as you can only get an HP substat on the auxiliary power, I've got 646 base hp rolls on everything and then a 888 substat roll then a 278 shield substat roll and with all that and I'm not using overwhelming hp I get 31k health and 26k shields so I'm wondering what mods you have on in order to get to 40+ without overwhelming hp. also if you need to look at the substat rolls they are in his vid called does defense suck at 2:23
Can you please break down the word salad that is Arche Concretion? 🤦🏾♂️
I play tanky gley (using predator instinct + shot Focus for damage boosting). I wanted something like Inaros from warframe and she is close. I pick Bunnies off the floor all the time. Dead DPS is negative DPS (because you are making someone else stop dpsing to pick you up). Especially in pugs, a little resist and a little hp goes a long ways
Yeah gley is probably the
Best dps cause it's so easy to explode her HP with like 1 or two mods
no blue def mod in the sheet?
Oh. Increased def. Ooops. Ille add it thanks
overwhelming defense will be used to one shot colossi somehow, i can already imagine it
tbh it kinda works on a very specialized Ajax build to just nuke with his 2 and 3. makes him a pretty glassy cannon but the numbers get pretty insane ;) (i wouldnt advocate for it because he doesn't really get enough mileage from it to be worth the sacrifice... but if you're into it....xD)
I feel like we should get an "aura" slot like warframe. I think the sub attack modules should be moved there and only sub attack or resist mods should be put there. I don't see the value in running a resist mod over more hp, shield, or def. Any other mod honestly. The immunity mods are the only ones i slot in at this point. Elemental effect immunity +7% res is amazing
It blows my mind I STILL have to pick up bunny's that have NO survivability. Literally yesterday I was farming void shards in agna desert and a lvl 40 bunny joins and insta dies like bro what are we doing.
Game does a poor job of teaching how to mod. There needs to be a better laboratory that can test incoming damage.