What is the year of manufacture for the Purolator filter? I ordered a PBL22500 filter from Amazon and it only has seven inlet holes as opposed to eight in the video and the box says 2022 and according to the date code on the filter it was made on May 1, 2023.
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Recently (June 2023) I went back onto Amazon Canada to buy another Purolator Boss Filter. For several years I have bought them @ Canadian $22.00 each. This time, they are listed @ Canadian $58.00 each! Guess what? Uh Uh, no more PB for me! I always do my research and look for a premium filter (and oil) and (with the help of these video's by Whip City) I will now by a NAPA Platinum. Thanks WP 👍👍😎
Holes, no louvers. Napa in this test. I say this when i just put a Puralator filter on my old Suburban. I had it, so I'm using it up. 5k miles and it goes away. Thanks Whip.
Thank you for another great review. With supply chain problems, I would consider myself very fortunate to find either one of these excellent filters on a shelf.
They are virtually equal in most measurements, but the NAPA has a thicker wall. The filter on my vehicle is exposed, so I will go with the NAPA and use Purolator as a backup.
I have been running the purolator boss filters for a while now and haven't had any oil filter related issues. Running 7500 mile intervals. Good product IMO. Good video.
There 30 bucks at advance Auto while mobile 1 is 11 and change at Walmart my last 2 GM rides had nothing but mobile 1 got over 500,000 before selling them 💪
Bought Napa Platinum made 12/2019 online (for suburu forester ) and noticed rust at top of filter can when looking inside filter upside down. Should I return it? Tnx
You would think with more media the boss would filter better. Collect more dirt. But I change my filters every 2,000 mi because I keep my cars for a long time. My '04 Yukon XL has 179,000 mi on it and runs like new. Clean engine no wear. Same thing with my 2002 Trans Am and my 1999 Z28. Both have low miles and are extremely clean and well filtered. Your videos are extremely informative. Most people would never know any of this information unless you displayed it here. I have since gotten myself an oil filter cutter and inspect my filters after each run. I want to know if there are metal particles in there now that I've seen you show us particles on the media. You are a wealth of knowledge. Keep these videos coming. Our vehicles will last longer because of your knowledge. Thank you for all your videos!
It is difficult to choose between the Napa platinum and the Purolator boss, I like features from both of them I like the fact that Napa platinum has holes in the middle core
both are great.personally I started using napa platinum and the Rpms on my minivan came down 300! I with my million mile mix: Rotella T6 + marvel mystery oil.
I have two Hyundai SUV’s one has 115k miles the othe 48k miles. Both vehicles drive less than 10k miles per year. I use full synthetic oil and did use Purolator Ultra oil filters but have switched to Purolator Boss filters because of there well built specs. Never had problems with any oil filters I’ve ourchased. I had a 13 year old Nissan King Cab pickup with 400+k miles on it , changed oil every 10k full synthetic engine ran with no problems. I used Fram XG from brand new till I had to junk it due to frame rotting. Firm believer with full synthetic oil and good filters. Thanks, Mr. B.
I've used Purolator exclusively for 40+ years with no issues, switching to the Boss synthetic within the past five or six, and they've not let me down. Which is nothing against NAPA. Just my humble opinion and comment. The greatest thing to consider is maintenance. Would I ever go to the interval stated on the box? Absolutely not, every 5,000.
I like them both, love the coil spring in the Napa Platinum holds everything tight. The car won't know the difference, 😆 😂 🤣 It would come down to which one is more available to me, The Napa store is close to me.
Great comparison, I think price might be the deciding factor since both Purolator and Wix (Napa filter) are now under the same umbrella and are great filters. Funny how that particular Wix filter now sports a nearly identical baseplate, both stamped 22, although the Purolator uses a full stamping for the baseplate cover with Wix using a Champ style outer for the gasket holder. I am a sucker for a pretty paint job and have used Purolator almost exclusively on my Million Mile vehicles since the late 70’s. Good stuff👍
The stated efficiency ratings ( usually on the box in the fine print) is why I don’t use extended drain filters. These 2 as well as other extended drain filters are built like Sherman tanks however the filtering just isn’t as good. Some ratings at 30 microns some at 40 microns. They other item to keep in mind is the psi of the bypass valve. Having an oil filter with a higher or lower bypass valve psi rating could be detrimental to the engine.
I buy the Boss, and I dont do intervals that are on the box, I just change it every 5k, but the filters microns is what I look for and its efficiency rating. You can generally use most filters and change them at 5k with Full Synthetic, but why not keep your engine cleaner with a better filter
PSI bypass spec....I have Subaru which has unusually high bypass spec of 23.2psi. To date, have not found non-OEM filter with such a high spec. Can you say bypass PSI of the Boss?
Both great filters. That Purolator filter backing is really a neat trick. Not only holding the media from collapsing but from tearing too. Killer design
Yes, and to think that some folks STILL want that too-bulky wire screen in there -- instead of PLEATS of filtering media. Some filter manufacturers still have the screen -- the SMART ones got rid of it as soon as they could find a better way -- like the FRAM Ultra.
@@nicolem.792 The Fram Ultra HAD the wire screen -- they replaced it with a thinner backing made of polymer -- stiff enough to support the pleats, without the bulky wire screen -- more room for PLEATS.
Another great review WCW ! Thank you for doing these comparison for us. Sure appreciate it. My next in line oil filter will be the Purolator Boss for my Corvette. I have to say the Napa Platinum looks pretty sweet. Maybe down the road.
The vast majority of the Napa Gold/Platinum filters are still made in Gastonia, NC. The vast majority of Purolator filters are still made in Fayetteville,NC. There are so many applications today that no company can provide them all in house. I’ve been working in the automotive repair industry for 30 years and I pay attention to where the parts that I use are produced. If it’s got Made in China stamped on it I will not buy it unless there’s no alternative. Wix has for years used suppliers in countries like Poland and Germany for smaller volume(sales )filters. Wix and Donaldson have a joint venture plant in Mexico as well. Every oil filter application that I use on a regular basis are made here in N.C. But when it comes to air & fuel filters they’re coming from all over the world. Israel, Poland, Mexico, Indonesia,ect. I wish that every product that I buy was made here in the USA but that’s just not the case. I do my best to support American products and I do my best to avoid Chinese products whenever possible. Unfortunately many American companies are getting their products from China in order to increase their profits at the expense of American workers.
I like both of these filters but? I do favor the holes on the NAPA core vs louvers on the Purolator because I think the holes will provide better oil flow and that's especially important during the colder months.
Well to answer your question at the end of the video, both these filters are made by Mann + Hummel. I have personally used the Napa Platinum for 5 years now. I have a 2013 Impala with that same 3.6l V6 engine. I actually use the filter you cut up. I have been very satisfied with them. I change my oil every 5k with Mobil 1 fully synthetic. So for me I will stick with the Napa Filter.
Thank you so much for continuing to cut open filters and give us insights on them! When these filter makers change manufacturers, they don’t usually tell you. So for example… you may have bought a Wix XP for years and come to find out that they changed manufacturers and are now using what you believe to be cheaper materials and such. Because of this, I switched from Wix XP to Purolator Boss. To be fair, The Wix XP isn’t a bad filter at all, I just personally prefer the Boss at this time. I never would have known that Wix (and all brands eventually) change manufacturers and when this happens, sometimes quality can dip even with the exact same name, model and part number. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. It really means a lot to me!
Actually WIX is a manufacturer and makes filters for NAPA, CarQuest and others. However, they were purchased a few years back by Mann+Hummel who also owns Purolator. I have already seen the designs of the two begin to merge, but it's only a matter of time until they essentially become the same filter to save on manufacturing costs. It's sad, because WIX was a really durable filter and they may now be forced to become relabeled Purolator filters. We'll see...
6:22..Was this Micron rating online at Napa or Wix/Mann and Hummel? The Platinum/XP for our fleet trucks are now 30-35(doesn't show on Wix site anymore...you have to call). So we are using Gold/Wix Regular which still shows the micron ratings. at 21 and 23 for our trucks.
Purolator Boss filters for the win. The Purolator filter media includes a reinforced polymer mesh fused to the media. This mesh is equivalent to and lighter than the metal screen backing. Both incorporate thick cans, but the Boss' ethylene-acrylic gasket pushes it over the top. On a personal note, my Silverado's PBL14006 lasted a whole winter in cold Alaska without no ill effects whatsoever. Whereas, past Baldwin filter media tore away from glued base plates -- not good. Post usage tear-down inspections opened my eyes. The Boss is built like a brick outhouse.
I've used Purolator boss and one for a while but I'm using napa platinum now. Primarily because nobody was stocking Purolator during that time I was changing the oil. Not seeing much difference, but engine may idle a little rougher.
I like both oil filters but I do not like the fact that the Napa platinum has a metal backing, which is a flakes off is not a good thing in the motor, so I would go with the boss, what do you think?
Impressed with video and, in particular, the apparent quality of the Boss. I just changed oil/filter at 6,000 miles and sent sample in to Blackstone. I'll do it again after 6,000 miles with the Boss. Same oil and everything else. I will be interested to see if the results using the Boss are any different from results with Tokyo Roki OEM filter used previously. I suspect no difference will be seen but....I will await the results...which will take another six months with my driving pattern. I may also kick myself for spending $80 on Blackstone when the same money would have paid for two complete changes! (2018 Subaru 3.6R, now at 70,000)
Philip Farnam, but those lab analyses come in handy when checking the oil’s performance. When you see the amount of wear metals and additive package remaining after a certain oil change interval, it can give you a snapshot of how your engine’s health is doing. I utilized the lab results to see if the oil change interval can be extended out even further, without damaging the engine in the process, and by seeing how much oil life is left via the TBN (total base number).
No difference using Purolator Boss. 2/10/2023...just got Blackstone results back after another 6,000 miles. This sample was after switching from OEM filter to Purolator Boss. (No other changes.) "Wear metals" and "insolubles" in my sample were no different from previous sample using MUCH cheaper OEM Tokyo Roki. Basically, you would have to run the Boss through two change-intervals in order to justify its price. Not disputing concept/quality of the Boss. Only saying that with my engine (Subaru 3.6) and driving pattern, there is no measurable difference compared with OEM.
@@philipfarnam6013I'll put it this way, when it comes down to it, I'll spare no expense for my engine's health, so what if you pay a few bucks more for a well made oil filter & a good oil. I use Blackstone every 5,000 miles also, cheap insurance is the bottom line.
Great to see you (apples to apples) testing oil filters fitting a common vehicle. Interesting that both are made at Mann & Hummel. The filter media I bet is exactly identical. Clearly, Mann & Hummel produce many filters from low to high grade and for various brands. The mechanical components are easily designed slightly different, but the media itself will likely be identical (based on the grade of the filter) due to the fact that a third party company is actually producing the media(s). "OEM media producers make products for Air, Water and Medical/Aerospace applications". So there is bound to be many cross applications!
I have no proof but I agree, I think they are the same also. So are a lot of other filter comparisons I do, such as a Supertech filter media and a Mobil1 filter media, and there are plenty more.
To be most accurate, Napa Platinum is made by Wix, in fact same as Wix XP. Boss made by Purolator. While both cos. owned by M&H, two different manufacturers.
Just a note: The "Filter Media" itself is NOT made by any of the oil filter manufacturers. There are various OEM companies whom specifically only manufacture filter media for anything such as Medical and Biological, Water Treatment, Auto's, Aerospace and any other application that needs fine particulate filtration. 😎😎
Purolator Boss is my choice but I really don't know how much better than others other than Fram which I believe is distinctly inferior. Purolator keeps oil clean looking.
I'll take either one. They both have synthetic media and that's the most important thing along with the mesh backing. They both go down to 20 microns so I'll use either one.
Looks like the Napa is great value, remember it was cheaper to buy, yet offered the same filtration area, shame you couldn't do a test for what they were intended to do,and this is a flow test, though I suspect they would be very similar there too as they have the same area of filtration material, but would be interesting to include such a test, the weight and thickness of the case is of no real importance, performance however, is !
Wow another great video ! I really like the Purolator Boss filter as that is what I use on my '04 Lincoln Town car. They have been getting hard to find as of lately at the parts stores though. 😕 But I think the Napa filter you just reviewed is an excellent alternative for me to give a go at. Thanks, I really value the info you're offering out to us. Thanks again !
Purolator for the win.. i was close however the Purolator having the that adaptor neck of the filter end cap integrated vs the Nappa a 2 piece design.. The Nappa design just introduces more possibly for unfiltered oil to bypass especially as the mating surfaces are metal on metal or if not perfectly flat .. just more variables so for $3 the Purolator for me
I run the Boss filter on my 1997 PS. Oil analysis shows it does as good a job as any other premium filter. I have bought them on Amazon for 11-13.00 dollars. Really have to shop as they can be as high as 36.00. When they reach an affordable price I buy several. Zoro also has good deals on Purolator filters when they have them in stock
Boss all the way. Their are several premium filters under the Mann And Hummell umbrella using the Boss design now. The Boss is still the best all the way around
I am impressed! Napa platinum still has the wire backing. I thought M & H had done away with the backing. Both are great filters. Napa is our 2nd goto filter, primarily due the parts volume discount we get. Thank you!
All my recent cars went over 200,000 highway miles using mobil-1 filters for the synthetic fibers and Mobil-1 oil. And here is the kicker, I change these after 8K to 10,000 miles just topped off as needed. I did this because that's why you pay more for the stuff its that much better along with the motors I am guessing. All cars were newer models, One car was a new 1998 VW, another Toyota Avalon, and the other was an Oldsmobile cutlass. But on these filters I don't think I want one with a fine metal screen for fear of bits of it floating around like a messy shop.
The Napa Platnum and Gold are made by Wix. I would bust buy the Wix filter add a 5 to the beginning of the p/n and you get your Wix filter. The Purolator Boss looks identical to Mobile 1 filters. Either way Wix and Mobile 1 make the best!
Since Menards stocks Purolator filters and I like metallic paint, I would probably go with that just because of those 2 factors for me 😁 Menards is 11.99 vs Napa online 12.49 so save a tiny bit too. Both are excellent and deserve a green light.
Had a Wix blow on my son's pickup right at start up after changing the oil. Leaked bad where the filter gasket meets the engine. Yes, I had her screwed on tight. Went with Purolator, it works fine. So long Wix, you lost my business.
@@WhipCityWrencher I have heard of it before it happened to us but, if memory serves me right the other times were with Frams. The canister part was fine but, when I started it up my son yelled out that if was leaking and sure enough after yelling to tell him to shut it off I saw the leaking going on. Been using Wix for years on my own vehicles and on the ones at my work. Off to Oreillys I went and got a Micro Guard and so far it is doing fine, it made a mess. From what I understand the Micro Guard is made by Purolator. Used those previous to the Wix. So I went and found Purolators for the other cars at the house. Its ironic, I went looking up the two filters Wix and Purolators and found they are both owned by Mann Hummel. Hope the Purolators pan out.
dunno, but the tiny louver holes in the Boss (which i see on regular Purolator's and other brands as well, seem like they could restrict flow too much when super cold weather? I guess not, since they designed it this way but the big holes in the Napa and the majority of brands, give me more confidance for that super cold morning. (e.g. IF perchance our oil wears out before we imagine, prematurely, then in super cold weather it will behave worse and less flowing than it's supposed to when new.
Both good filters, very much an apples to apples comparison. This just changed my mind on my filter rankings, though, the two reasons why are: 1. Micron rating of 21 (napa) vs 25 (puro) 2. Durable spring (napa) vs stamped metal (puro) Napa Plat is now my No. 2 filter.
Great video on oil filters.chsmpion make most of the oil filters for major brand names.napa auto parts buy from name brand rebrand as napa charges more money.
The construction of the platinum, is sure nice. I Like that there still using: metal screen backing, holes on inner core and leaf spring. Just the filtration of the media that's concerns me. You said at 6 minute mark: it has a 21 microns rating. Is that 99% at 21 microns?
Ah ok. Ya I think it might be: 99%, at 30 microns. Seems to me, guys on bobs oil forums were saying: its 50% at 20 microns. Which isn't too good, if correct. Sure secretive about the filtration stats.
Great comparison between 2 good quality oil filters folders. I myself would go with the Napa platinum. That being said I've heard the Napa gold has less oil restriction.
Thanks, for sharing, & contributions.. I have heard that too!,:::+where & what did you hear, see?.NEED MORE informations,& ** IF YOU SEE OR KNOW could, use documentation!, ?? Interestingly, I generally use NAPA GOLD, though just switched to two Vehicles: to BOSS PUROLATOR….forma Trial INTERVAL USE,(* oddly my 2007 CANYON MAY “ sound quieter , no PROOF)…….INTERESTINGLY, ALSO, my DODGE DEALER just switched to Pemzzoil, fromPRONTO( made in Vietnam), or some three ++years of PERFORMAX ( made in Mexico, though one a year ago “ Made in USA’)!!!!
No one mention the metal center tube holes design. The NAPA tube looks like the old Purolater design, with simple round hole. & the Boss has the new Purolater design. With spiral more like slots , but a lot lf them. Which one flows better? I bet the new design!
Regardless of design, the center tube is there to PREVENT the filter element from CRUSHING under the pressure of a partially-clogged filter media. Most prefer the HOLES over the LOUVERS, but the most important thing is the construction of the center tube. Spiral-wound is stronger than the straight-seam type, and is the ONLY acceptable type of center tube. I prefer the LOUVERS -- for strength -- there is a plenty of oil flow with the louvers. IF ONLY all oil filters would have that FORD design, with the By-Pass Valve on the INLET END. Peace.
When in Doubt I would go with the Purolator filter & their 100+ years of experience not to Mention they invented the oil filter. But I agree, they are both quality filters and both were assembled with attention to detail. Also price is determinate of where you purchased it & the size difference would come into play on just how tight the engine compartment is so I might lean to the smaller larger filter media filter.
Napa Plat/( Wix XP) "nominal" rating 21um, means 50%@21 microns. In other words, No Bueno. As the NP is made 3/2019, not current, now use same backing as Boss. Also, likely to find louvers now, same as Boss. So all things considered, including and especially efficiency rating...Boss is the winner. But, I wouldn't pay the given price for either. Not sure why different size cans. Thanks for vid.
What is the year of manufacture for the Purolator filter? I ordered a PBL22500 filter from Amazon and it only has seven inlet holes as opposed to eight in the video and the box says 2022 and according to the date code on the filter it was made on May 1, 2023.
The one in this video is Aug. 9th, 2021.
The one thing I like about the Napa platinum is that it does not have louvers it has holes
Puralator boss hands down. 99.9 percent efficiency at 25 microns is good.
For those who want to take the best possible care of their rides these filters are the way to go..For those who want a top notch comparison of top notch filters you have come to the right place! 👍👍
Thank You, Mike! 😊
Recently (June 2023) I went back onto Amazon Canada to buy another Purolator Boss Filter. For several years I have bought them @ Canadian $22.00 each. This time, they are listed @ Canadian $58.00 each! Guess what? Uh Uh, no more PB for me! I always do my research and look for a premium filter (and oil) and (with the help of these video's by Whip City) I will now by a NAPA Platinum.
Thanks WP 👍👍😎
Hi Lisa
I like the Purolator Boss also but Wow! $58 is way too much!
Thanks for Sharing👍
I used the napa now for all my cars
Napa Platinum filter is what I use and what I believe to be the best filter on the market.
Hands down coil spring with metal backing you can’t beat Napa
Well, Napa filters are made by Wix. Good brand.
@@JodieMixnot anymore. The gold line is made in China and the platinum line is made by the same company as the Purolator that's in this video.
Wrong. Napa Gold say Mann and Hummel right on box, some made in Mexico, a few in China. Haven’t seen a Napa platinum in years.
Napa gaskets and sensors are up their as well.
Puralator Boss every time for me. The thick baseplate on these filter handle a lot of forces. Can’t go wrong with the Napa filter either.
You're right Dustin, both are well-made oil filters. Thanks for your feedback👍💯
I like the mesh that the Napa has.
Holes, no louvers. Napa in this test. I say this when i just put a Puralator filter on my old Suburban. I had it, so I'm using it up. 5k miles and it goes away. Thanks Whip.
I would the napa filer over all.
Thank you for another great review. With supply chain problems, I would consider myself very fortunate to find either one of these excellent filters on a shelf.
I know it's not only filters either.
I'm 🙏 and hoping things get better soon.
They are virtually equal in most measurements, but the NAPA has a thicker wall. The filter on
my vehicle is exposed, so I will go with the NAPA and use Purolator as a backup.
I have been running the purolator boss filters for a while now and haven't had any oil filter related issues. Running 7500 mile intervals. Good product IMO. Good video.
Thank You!
and Thanks for sharing!
Thanks, interestingly I just switched two Vehicles to BOZS**generally used NAPA GOLD BEFORE,… WHAT HAVE YOU Found OUT.?.
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There 30 bucks at advance Auto while mobile 1 is 11 and change at Walmart my last 2 GM rides had nothing but mobile 1 got over 500,000 before selling them 💪
I will use either, Prboss has a little more filter. Keep in mind, the Napas are hard to get now at least in NY. Both are great.
I like the orange ones because the color looks nice!
Bought Napa Platinum made 12/2019 online (for suburu forester ) and noticed rust at top of filter can when looking inside filter upside down. Should I return it? Tnx
You would think with more media the boss would filter better. Collect more dirt. But I change my filters every 2,000 mi because I keep my cars for a long time. My '04 Yukon XL has 179,000 mi on it and runs like new. Clean engine no wear. Same thing with my 2002 Trans Am and my 1999 Z28. Both have low miles and are extremely clean and well filtered. Your videos are extremely informative. Most people would never know any of this information unless you displayed it here. I have since gotten myself an oil filter cutter and inspect my filters after each run. I want to know if there are metal particles in there now that I've seen you show us particles on the media. You are a wealth of knowledge. Keep these videos coming. Our vehicles will last longer because of your knowledge. Thank you for all your videos!
You're Welcome, Mezzy!
Thanks for Sharing!
I've seen new Chrysler vehicles with worse paint jobs than the Boss filter 👍
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You won't have to worry much about how the filter looks when it's mounted under your car
Yes, If I had an open engine car such as a T Bucket or '32 Ford -- I would buy a Puralator Boss. Thar is one beautiful oil filter. 😍
You haven't looked closely at new KIA vehicles then! Ugh. The engines catch fire regularly too!!
Idk what you win but you fucking win
How nice of John to do so! Another great review! 👍
Yes it was!
Thanks Ella 😊
You're Welcome! 🙂
It is difficult to choose between the Napa platinum and the Purolator boss, I like features from both of them I like the fact that Napa platinum has holes in the middle core
I've ran them both, I like them both, either is fine with me, comes down to price these days. Great video series!!!!!!!!
Thanks!
Love the sound effects
both are great.personally I started using napa platinum and the Rpms on my minivan came down 300! I with my million mile mix: Rotella T6 + marvel mystery oil.
I assure your 300 rpm drop has NOTHING to do with the filter.
That is absolute fact. Something else made that change.
I have two Hyundai SUV’s one has 115k miles the othe 48k miles. Both vehicles drive less than 10k miles per year. I use full synthetic oil and did use Purolator Ultra oil filters but have switched to Purolator Boss filters because of there well built specs. Never had problems with any oil filters I’ve ourchased. I had a 13 year old Nissan King Cab pickup with 400+k miles on it , changed oil every 10k full synthetic engine ran with no problems. I used Fram XG from brand new till I had to junk it due to frame rotting. Firm believer with full synthetic oil and good filters. Thanks, Mr. B.
Hi Steve,
I like the Purolator Boss oil filters also.
Thanks for Sharing. 👍
Been using NAPA on goldwing for years, quality, but the BOSS looks just as good. Thanks for the comparison vid.
Your Welcome!
I've used Purolator exclusively for 40+ years with no issues, switching to the Boss synthetic within the past five or six, and they've not let me down. Which is nothing against NAPA. Just my humble opinion and comment. The greatest thing to consider is maintenance. Would I ever go to the interval stated on the box? Absolutely not, every 5,000.
I like the Boss oil filters also
Either and change oil 3-4k miles
Thanks Pete!
Your Welcome John!
Thanks for sending me the filters.👍
I like them both, love the coil spring in the Napa Platinum holds everything tight. The car won't know the difference, 😆 😂 🤣 It would come down to which one is more available to me, The Napa store is close to me.
Great comparison, I think price might be the deciding factor since both Purolator and Wix (Napa filter) are now under the same umbrella and are great filters. Funny how that particular Wix filter now sports a nearly identical baseplate, both stamped 22, although the Purolator uses a full stamping for the baseplate cover with Wix using a Champ style outer for the gasket holder. I am a sucker for a pretty paint job and have used Purolator almost exclusively on my Million Mile vehicles since the late 70’s. Good stuff👍
The stated efficiency ratings ( usually on the box in the fine print) is why I don’t use extended drain filters. These 2 as well as other extended drain filters are built like Sherman tanks however the filtering just isn’t as good. Some ratings at 30 microns some at 40 microns. They other item to keep in mind is the psi of the bypass valve. Having an oil filter with a higher or lower bypass valve psi rating could be detrimental to the engine.
The best filters filter around 25 micron size, which the boss filters at
I buy the Boss, and I dont do intervals that are on the box, I just change it every 5k, but the filters microns is what I look for and its efficiency rating. You can generally use most filters and change them at 5k with Full Synthetic, but why not keep your engine cleaner with a better filter
@@marvinpurcell2775 my thought exactly. That is why I use the Royal Purple
PSI bypass spec....I have Subaru which has unusually high bypass spec of 23.2psi. To date, have not found non-OEM filter with such a high spec. Can you say bypass PSI of the Boss?
@@philipfarnam6013 when I search that up online all I find is unofficial data that says 20-30psi.
Boss is my fail back when I cannot get Amsoil. Wix Xp is another too.
Hi whip great sharing👍
Thanks cassy👍
Both great filters. That Purolator filter backing is really a neat trick. Not only holding the media from collapsing but from tearing too. Killer design
Yep, I like it too!
Yes, and to think that some folks STILL want that too-bulky wire screen in there -- instead of PLEATS of filtering media.
Some filter manufacturers still have the screen -- the SMART ones got rid of it as soon as they could find a better way -- like the FRAM Ultra.
@@SlikLizrd I’m not 100% sure what Fram ultra did. I know they removed the metal backing but did they change the filter media?
@@nicolem.792 The Fram Ultra HAD the wire screen -- they replaced it with a thinner backing made of polymer -- stiff enough to support the pleats, without the bulky wire screen -- more room for PLEATS.
Another great review WCW ! Thank you for doing these comparison for us. Sure appreciate it. My next in line oil filter will be the Purolator Boss for my Corvette. I have to say the Napa Platinum looks pretty sweet. Maybe down the road.
Thank you!
Hi friend watching now 👍🐕
Excellent video. This is a much needed comparison. You are a fountain of knowledge.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank You!
I believe the NAPA Platinum is made in many countries. The Puralator is made in USA. I will continue to support American made !
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The vast majority of the Napa Gold/Platinum filters are still made in Gastonia, NC. The vast majority of Purolator filters are still made in Fayetteville,NC. There are so many applications today that no company can provide them all in house.
I’ve been working in the automotive repair industry for 30 years and I pay attention to where the parts that I use are produced. If it’s got Made in China stamped on it I will not buy it unless there’s no alternative. Wix has for years used suppliers in countries like Poland and Germany for smaller volume(sales )filters. Wix and Donaldson have a joint venture plant in Mexico as well. Every oil filter application that I use on a regular basis are made here in N.C. But when it comes to air & fuel filters they’re coming from all over the world. Israel, Poland, Mexico, Indonesia,ect.
I wish that every product that I buy was made here in the USA but that’s just not the case. I do my best to support American products and I do my best to avoid Chinese products whenever possible. Unfortunately many American companies are getting their products from China in order to increase their profits at the expense of American workers.
I like both of these filters but? I do favor the holes on the NAPA core vs louvers on the Purolator because I think the holes will provide better oil flow and that's especially important during the colder months.
Well to answer your question at the end of the video, both these filters are made by Mann + Hummel. I have personally used the Napa Platinum for 5 years now. I have a 2013 Impala with that same 3.6l V6 engine. I actually use the filter you cut up. I have been very satisfied with them. I change my oil every 5k with Mobil 1 fully synthetic. So for me I will stick with the Napa Filter.
Hi Stephen,
Thanks for sharing!
The Napa are discontinued. 😠. I like them better. The holes in the core and metal baking. Wix XP is next best.
@@John115Yonkers Oh that's not good. I just recently found out you can get AC Delco Gold filters. I wonder if they are any good.
I’ve used both filters. The purolator is my go to, but if I can’t find one then the NAPA is my alternative choice, end of day I trust both of them
I'm will stick with boss, but agree that the napa looks really good 👍
I like the Boss also
Thank you so much for continuing to cut open filters and give us insights on them!
When these filter makers change manufacturers, they don’t usually tell you. So for example… you may have bought a Wix XP for years and come to find out that they changed manufacturers and are now using what you believe to be cheaper materials and such.
Because of this, I switched from Wix XP to Purolator Boss. To be fair, The Wix XP isn’t a bad filter at all, I just personally prefer the Boss at this time.
I never would have known that Wix (and all brands eventually) change manufacturers and when this happens, sometimes quality can dip even with the exact same name, model and part number.
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. It really means a lot to me!
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Thanks for sharing!👍
Actually WIX is a manufacturer and makes filters for NAPA, CarQuest and others. However, they were purchased a few years back by Mann+Hummel who also owns Purolator. I have already seen the designs of the two begin to merge, but it's only a matter of time until they essentially become the same filter to save on manufacturing costs. It's sad, because WIX was a really durable filter and they may now be forced to become relabeled Purolator filters. We'll see...
I like and use the Puralator Boss, it sells for $11.99 at Menards home supply in my area
Both great filters made by same company. Purolator one of the first if not the first to make a spin on filter.
Thanks John , and a special thanks to Mr Whip .
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6:22..Was this Micron rating online at Napa or Wix/Mann and Hummel?
The Platinum/XP for our fleet trucks are now 30-35(doesn't show on Wix site anymore...you have to call). So we are using Gold/Wix Regular which still shows the micron ratings. at 21 and 23 for our trucks.
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Purolator Boss filters for the win. The Purolator filter media includes a reinforced polymer mesh fused to the media. This mesh is equivalent to and lighter than the metal screen backing. Both incorporate thick cans, but the Boss' ethylene-acrylic gasket pushes it over the top. On a personal note, my Silverado's PBL14006 lasted a whole winter in cold Alaska without no ill effects whatsoever. Whereas, past Baldwin filter media tore away from glued base plates -- not good. Post usage tear-down inspections opened my eyes. The Boss is built like a brick outhouse.
I've used Purolator boss and one for a while but I'm using napa platinum now. Primarily because nobody was stocking Purolator during that time I was changing the oil. Not seeing much difference, but engine may idle a little rougher.
I dont know where the rough idle would come from, but I like the Boss on my vehicle because the filter I use has elongated inlet holes.
I like both oil filters but I do not like the fact that the Napa platinum has a metal backing, which is a flakes off is not a good thing in the motor, so I would go with the boss, what do you think?
If the metal backing were to flake off it would go into the motor not a good thing
I dont think it will flake off. It just looks rugged after I cut it with a hack saw.
I concur both are great filters.
Which ever is cheapest between the two is what I'll use. Thanks for the video. Appreciate it.
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I will take the Purolator Boss. 😀😀
Impressed with video and, in particular, the apparent quality of the Boss. I just changed oil/filter at 6,000 miles and sent sample in to Blackstone. I'll do it again after 6,000 miles with the Boss. Same oil and everything else. I will be interested to see if the results using the Boss are any different from results with Tokyo Roki OEM filter used previously. I suspect no difference will be seen but....I will await the results...which will take another six months with my driving pattern. I may also kick myself for spending $80 on Blackstone when the same money would have paid for two complete changes! (2018 Subaru 3.6R, now at 70,000)
Philip Farnam, but those lab analyses come in handy when checking the oil’s performance. When you see the amount of wear metals and additive package remaining after a certain oil change interval, it can give you a snapshot of how your engine’s health is doing. I utilized the lab results to see if the oil change interval can be extended out even further, without damaging the engine in the process, and by seeing how much oil life is left via the TBN (total base number).
No difference using Purolator Boss. 2/10/2023...just got Blackstone results back after another 6,000 miles. This sample was after switching from OEM filter to Purolator Boss. (No other changes.) "Wear metals" and "insolubles" in my sample were no different from previous sample using MUCH cheaper OEM Tokyo Roki. Basically, you would have to run the Boss through two change-intervals in order to justify its price. Not disputing concept/quality of the Boss. Only saying that with my engine (Subaru 3.6) and driving pattern, there is no measurable difference compared with OEM.
@@philipfarnam6013I'll put it this way, when it comes down to it, I'll spare no expense for my engine's health, so what if you pay a few bucks more for a well made oil filter & a good oil. I use Blackstone every 5,000 miles also, cheap insurance is the bottom line.
i use purolator boss with pennzoil ultra platinium 5w20 on my f150 5.0 2018 perfect match
Hey, that's a pair that beats 3 of a kind. 😊👍
I friend great info. Full watch 👍
Thanks, freind👍
I've always run NAPA filters, but I've been seeing these Purolator's at Tractor supply, so I'm just curious.
The Purolator Boss is a good oil filter.
Great to see you (apples to apples) testing oil filters fitting a common vehicle.
Interesting that both are made at Mann & Hummel. The filter media I bet is exactly identical.
Clearly, Mann & Hummel produce many filters from low to high grade and for various brands. The mechanical components are easily designed slightly different, but the media itself will likely be identical (based on the grade of the filter) due to the fact that a third party company is actually producing the media(s). "OEM media producers make products for Air, Water and Medical/Aerospace applications". So there is bound to be many cross applications!
I have no proof but I agree, I think they are the same also. So are a lot of other filter comparisons I do, such as a Supertech filter media and a Mobil1 filter media, and there are plenty more.
To be most accurate, Napa Platinum is made by Wix, in fact same as Wix XP. Boss made by Purolator. While both cos. owned by M&H, two different manufacturers.
@@faxmen09 Interesting. Two divisions owned by M&H!
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@@lisab3396 Yep, bought Purolator first, was part owner with Bosch. Then more recently bought Wix.
Just a note: The "Filter Media" itself is NOT made by any of the oil filter manufacturers. There are various OEM companies whom specifically only manufacture filter media for anything such as Medical and Biological, Water Treatment, Auto's, Aerospace and any other application that needs fine particulate filtration. 😎😎
I'll take the coil spring any day.
My franchise in my area said NAPA is now made by Micro Guard. I live in Georgia
Yep, The Microgards are good oil filters, too bad they are made in Vietnam.
Purolator Boss is my choice but I really don't know how much better than others other than Fram which I believe is distinctly inferior. Purolator keeps oil clean looking.
Napa Platinum. NAPA Filters are the best in the industry found on many Heavy-duty and municipal vehicles.
Thanks for your feedback!
I'll take either one. They both have synthetic media and that's the most important thing along with the mesh backing. They both go down to 20 microns so I'll use either one.
Looks like two great filters.Price would probably be the factor for me..💪🇺🇲👍👍
Hi Dan,
I like both filters also, thanks for your feedback👍
Looks like the Napa is great value, remember it was cheaper to buy, yet offered the same filtration area, shame you couldn't do a test for what they were intended to do,and this is a flow test, though I suspect they would be very similar there too as they have the same area of filtration material, but would be interesting to include such a test, the weight and thickness of the case is of no real importance, performance however, is !
Good to see the comparison of the two oil filters. Merri :)
Thanks Merri!👍
Great analysis.. good filters.
Thanks 👍
Wow another great video ! I really like the Purolator Boss filter as that is what I use on my '04 Lincoln Town car. They have been getting hard to find as of lately at the parts stores though. 😕 But I think the Napa filter you just reviewed is an excellent alternative for me to give a go at. Thanks, I really value the info you're offering out to us. Thanks again !
Thank You!
I know oil filters are hard to find these days so if you do find your favorite I'd buy a few of them.
Thanks for sharing!
You should do tests where your pour dirty oil through each and measure before and after particulates in the oil samples.
Napa Platinum
your opinion on louvers vs. holes vs. that plastic cage thing on the supertech oil filters
Both filters are great it is frustrating with availability but I'm very optimistic that it will get better
I think so too Mike, just may take a little time.
Thanks for your feedback👍
I think they’re both top quality oil filters. I would buy the one with the lower price and be satisfied.
Purolator for the win.. i was close however the Purolator having the that adaptor neck of the filter end cap integrated vs the Nappa a 2 piece design.. The Nappa design just introduces more possibly for unfiltered oil to bypass especially as the mating surfaces are metal on metal or if not perfectly flat .. just more variables so for $3 the Purolator for me
Both look good! Boss FTW!
I run the Boss filter on my 1997 PS. Oil analysis shows it does as good a job as any other premium filter. I have bought them on Amazon for 11-13.00 dollars. Really have to shop as they can be as high as 36.00. When they reach an affordable price I buy several. Zoro also has good deals on Purolator filters when they have them in stock
Thanks for Sharing👍
Very good
Thanks, Bob 😊
Boss all the way. Their are several premium filters under the Mann And Hummell umbrella using the Boss design now. The Boss is still the best all the way around
I like the Boss also
I am impressed! Napa platinum still has the wire backing. I thought M & H had done away with the backing.
Both are great filters. Napa is our 2nd goto filter, primarily due the parts volume discount we get.
Thank you!
Hi Jason,
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I wonder how long this one will have a wire backing?🤔
They may go to plastic which I think is just as good.
Both are so nice!!
All my recent cars went over 200,000 highway miles using mobil-1 filters for the synthetic fibers and Mobil-1 oil. And here is the kicker, I change these after 8K to 10,000 miles just topped off as needed. I did this because that's why you pay more for the stuff its that much better along with the motors I am guessing. All cars were newer models, One car was a new 1998 VW, another Toyota Avalon, and the other was an Oldsmobile cutlass. But on these filters I don't think I want one with a fine metal screen for fear of bits of it floating around like a messy shop.
The Napa Platnum and Gold are made by Wix. I would bust buy the Wix filter add a 5 to the beginning of the p/n and you get your Wix filter. The Purolator Boss looks identical to Mobile 1 filters. Either way Wix and Mobile 1 make the best!
Thanks for your feedback.
Just my opinion but I think the Purolator Boss is a better oil filter.
Is NAPA Platinum the same as Wix XP?
I like both, but Wix XP is less expensive on Amazon.
They may differ a little but they are pretty much the same oil filters.
Since Menards stocks Purolator filters and I like metallic paint, I would probably go with that just because of those 2 factors for me 😁 Menards is 11.99 vs Napa online 12.49 so save a tiny bit too. Both are excellent and deserve a green light.
Hi TECH,
Thanks for sharing!👍
Thanks for the Menards tip, I’m headed there this week to get some.
Both are good filters & both are manufactured by the same manufacturer
Yep, I would use either one. No Problem.👍
They have the same parent company, but one is manufactured by WIX, the other by Purolator. Both made in North Carolina, but in different towns.
Had a Wix blow on my son's pickup right at start up after changing the oil. Leaked bad where the filter gasket meets the engine. Yes, I had her screwed on tight. Went with Purolator, it works fine. So long Wix, you lost my business.
Wow, the first time I've ever heard of this.
Thanks for sharing!
@@WhipCityWrencher I have heard of it before it happened to us but, if memory serves me right the other times were with Frams. The canister part was fine but, when I started it up my son yelled out that if was leaking and sure enough after yelling to tell him to shut it off I saw the leaking going on. Been using Wix for years on my own vehicles and on the ones at my work. Off to Oreillys I went and got a Micro Guard and so far it is doing fine, it made a mess. From what I understand the Micro Guard is made by Purolator. Used those previous to the Wix. So I went and found Purolators for the other cars at the house. Its ironic, I went looking up the two filters Wix and Purolators and found they are both owned by Mann Hummel. Hope the Purolators pan out.
@@rtaggs8178 As far as I know Microgard oil filters are made by Wix. But there all owned by Mann and Hummel anyway.
Napa/wix have gone down hill fast in the last couple years.
I'd use either one on my Honda Civic. They both seem to be some really nice filters. Thanks again for doing these very informative videos.
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Glad you like the video!😊
dunno, but the tiny louver holes in the Boss (which i see on regular Purolator's and other brands as well, seem like they could restrict flow too much when super cold weather? I guess not, since they designed it this way but the big holes in the Napa and the majority of brands, give me more confidance for that super cold morning. (e.g. IF perchance our oil wears out before we imagine, prematurely, then in super cold weather it will behave worse and less flowing than it's supposed to when new.
Whip, I think these are both great filters. Can’t go wrong with either👍
Agreed!
Both well made filters. Flip a coin. Two of the best you can buy. Price to NAPA. Good show and test.
Thank You,
and Thanks for the feedback!
Our Menards has the BOSS for $11.99 a penny less than the Nappy!
Both very good. Just from the looks, the Napa Platinum may give a slightly longer OCI. Both would flow better than the paper filters.
'd have to go with the NAPA over the Boss just for the lower micron filtering rating.
I'm not sure the Napa filter has a better micron rating? Napa website says 21 microns but gives no percentage number.
Slight edge to Napa
Great video and comparison. Both look good to me.
Thanks!😊
Both good filters, very much an apples to apples comparison.
This just changed my mind on my filter rankings, though, the two reasons why are:
1. Micron rating of 21 (napa) vs 25 (puro)
2. Durable spring (napa) vs stamped metal (puro)
Napa Plat is now my No. 2 filter.
The micron ratings are confusing and I wish they all use a standard rating.
Napa Platinum rating, Nominal @ 20 microns means 50% at 20 microns. The Boss 'rating' significantly better. Not close in fact.
Great video on oil filters.chsmpion make most of the oil filters for major brand names.napa auto parts buy from name brand rebrand as napa charges more money.
Thank You! and Thanks for your feedback! 👍
Wix makes the Napa oil filters, which are now owned by Mann and hummel.
Mann + Humle is Wix filters same company just different media
The construction of the platinum, is sure nice. I Like that there still using: metal screen backing, holes on inner core and leaf spring. Just the filtration of the media that's concerns me. You said at 6 minute mark: it has a 21 microns rating. Is that 99% at 21 microns?
No it’s at 30 microns
I don't know I think its a nominal rating.
Ah ok. Ya I think it might be: 99%, at 30 microns. Seems to me, guys on bobs oil forums were saying: its 50% at 20 microns. Which isn't too good, if correct. Sure secretive about the filtration stats.
@@rode3016 I really dont know what that comes out to percentage-wise but 50% at 20 microns seems kinda low.
I think the Purolator site says the BOSS is 99%+ @ 20 microns now.
Great comparison between 2 good quality oil filters folders. I myself would go with the Napa platinum. That being said I've heard the Napa gold has less oil restriction.
Thanks, for sharing, & contributions.. I have heard that too!,:::+where & what did you hear, see?.NEED MORE informations,& ** IF YOU SEE OR KNOW could, use documentation!, ?? Interestingly, I generally use NAPA GOLD, though just switched to two Vehicles: to BOSS PUROLATOR….forma Trial INTERVAL USE,(* oddly my 2007 CANYON MAY “ sound quieter , no PROOF)…….INTERESTINGLY, ALSO, my DODGE DEALER just switched to Pemzzoil, fromPRONTO( made in Vietnam), or some three ++years of PERFORMAX ( made in Mexico, though one a year ago “ Made in USA’)!!!!
No one mention the metal center tube holes design. The NAPA tube looks like the old Purolater design, with simple round hole. & the Boss has the new Purolater design. With spiral more like slots , but a lot lf them.
Which one flows better? I bet the new design!
I dont know if one has a better flow over the other. I'll use either one but I do prefer holes.
Thanks for the feedback👍
Regardless of design, the center tube is there to PREVENT the filter element from CRUSHING under the pressure of a partially-clogged filter media.
Most prefer the HOLES over the LOUVERS, but the most important thing is the construction of the center tube.
Spiral-wound is stronger than the straight-seam type, and is the ONLY acceptable type of center tube.
I prefer the LOUVERS -- for strength -- there is a plenty of oil flow with the louvers.
IF ONLY all oil filters would have that FORD design, with the By-Pass Valve on the INLET END.
Peace.
@@SlikLizrd If it has a Fram website-approved stamped leaf retainer spring, it meets your requirements.
When in Doubt I would go with the Purolator filter & their 100+ years of experience not to Mention they invented the oil filter. But I agree, they are both quality filters and both were assembled with attention to detail. Also price is determinate of where you purchased it & the size difference would come into play on just how tight the engine compartment is so I might lean to the smaller larger filter media filter.
Napa Plat/( Wix XP) "nominal" rating 21um, means 50%@21 microns. In other words, No Bueno. As the NP is made 3/2019, not current, now use same backing as Boss. Also, likely to find louvers now, same as Boss. So all things considered, including and especially efficiency rating...Boss is the winner. But, I wouldn't pay the given price for either. Not sure why different size cans. Thanks for vid.
Thanks for the info on the Napa Platinum, if that's the case then not a very good micron rating.