Classic old school brass case that was gifted to me by my grandfather on my 16th birthday. The same zippo he carried through the pacific campaign in the Second World War.
@@LunaRose1312 when he said he could smell it on his hand after holding it over the flame I tried it and I could smell it but the smell was gone from my hand after only a matter of seconds and that was with Clipper fluid which is the cheapest stuff. I also have azure branded naptha which I bought 5 litres of for 23.99 and that smells even less.
@@schlomoshekelstein908 A little bit harsh calling them retarded, but yeah. It's the same with brand name painkillers, the bog standard cheap Paracetamol or Ibuprofen have the exact same active ingredient. Only difference is the price.
Great video. Dispelling myths is one of TH-cam's greatest strengths and weaknesses. Thank you for the good info. Zippo's fuel has come a long way. Also they make butane for jet lighters.
@@PerdomoCigars That's amazing, thank you so much. I'm subscribed to you too. I love the tips and information your President has been putting out lately. His knowledge is so incredibly useful.
What happens when you light up a cigar with a zippo? It catches someone's hair on fire from 3,000 miles away, if you go by how people on the internet act.
God damn! I have followed that anti-Zippo/lighter fluid rule ever since I started smoking cigars; never thought to question it. I have a few gifted Zippo/liquid lighters in a box in the back of a closet, because I never thought I would be able to use them. Now, I can't wait to dig them out and feel like the King of Lighters. Thank you so much for this!
Been using a Zippo on hand-rolled premium cigars for 51 years. Back in the 90's a friend and i blind taste tested Zippo fuel versus butane. Could detect no difference. For years now I've used the Slim version Zippo cause with the glass wick trimmed even with the chimney, the soft flame size is perfect for cigars. I use a precious metal one for a classy experience. You can still pick up a sterling Slim on Ebay or such for less than $100, vintage ones often much less. And of course they have the forever Zippo guarantee. Nuff said.
It always felt like just one of those rules that people hear and believe without actually having tried it. I would guess, if anything, it's just down to the smell of the zippo; not that it does anything to the cigar but if you've got a zippo close to your face as you are drawing from you cigar the smell of it might find it's way to you and skew your senses a bit. I personally use my zippo for cigars and, like you, notice no difference. Great video! Always good for people to try stuff rather than just blindly accept what they've heard.
I was one of those people- I heard it in the 90s and repeated it to various other people over the years. Never having owned a zippo it wasn’t an issue, but once I got one I wanted to know and now I’m safe in the knowledge that my cool zippos will do just fine 😄 thanks for the video mate 👍🏼
Thank you so much. I used to light my cigars with a butane torch, because everybody else online said not to use a zippo. But ive never owned a zippo. After this video, I bought one and started lighting different cigars with it. If all the other guys are correct, I should get the same taste out of each different type of cigar, which would be the fuel taste and smell. But so far all the cigars had their own different unique taste. The cheap ones smelled and tasted cheap. The high quality ones smelled and tasted like high quality cigars. Only time I smell the lighter fluid is when I take the zippo out of my pocket, because the fluid is constantly in an evaporating state. I think the people just holding their zippos in their hand and the cigar in the other and they smell the zippo and not the cigar. Thanks for your video.
I've bought a Zippo butane insert for my Zippos and honestly I feel I'm just cheating. I love my Zippos and I've stood my ground many times against people that say it affects the flavour profile. Great video once again! Thanks for doing this
Using petrol Zippo for 51 years. I use a precious metal Slim version. With wick trimmed even with the chimney, it's perfect soft flame size for cigars.
I got the soft flame zippo insert and it’s nice, except for that I hate having to hold down the button to maintain the flame. That, and the button is kind of small and slick so it takes more effort than I feel like it probably should.
Thank you. I have used my Zippo to light my cigars for over 30 years. During that same time, I have listened to big talkers laugh at me . I had a beautiful Dunhill fuel lighter which was no problem once I turned up the flame. Toasting is for bread, not cigars, they just need a light. Great videos, keep up the great work 👍🍸👏 bravo
51 years lighting premium cigars with a Zippo. I use a Slim as with the glass wick trimmed even with chimney top, the flame size is perfect for cigars.
Hey man, nice video. I'm a cigar and pipe smoker and I use zippo. I will say though that I used matches on my pipe this winter and immediately noticed the fuel taste when I went back to my zippo pipe lighter. It burns off in 2-4 puffs but I definitely taste it. I do have a pretty sensitive palette though with food, drink, everything so it could be there there are just some folks who have more sensitive taste buds. I love my zippos though and will now do an experiment. Even though I have a zippo butane lighter for my cigars, I'm going to try lighting one with my zippo pipe lighter soon. I'll use a Drew Estates Factory Smokes and see if i taste fluid. If I do, if it goes away in a couple puffs, in my opinion, it's not the end of the world. Nothing wrong with looking for something better but I believe we've all gotten discontent and a bit soft in modern society...
So Update - I had a Drew Estates Factory Smokes Shade connecticut yesterday and lit it with my zippo pipe lighter. I lit it first, then cut the head with a v-cutter. I had no lighter fluid taste or any kind of off taste at all. I also had to do a relite a little past halfway due to a phone call. I had no off flavor there either. Good to know! I do however get the lighter fluid taste in my pipes, but it's survivable.
I recently purchased a vector lighter that has a flame and torch option in one lighter. Its fuel is butane. I'm very pleased with it because of the option. If your cigar is burning uneven, the single torch is a button push away to getting it back to burning even. Just gently torch the uneven wrapper, and a few draws later, it will correct itself.
For a bit of extra info. Yes, to the utmost Cigar aficionado, Petrol based lights, like a zippo or an IMCO do impart a flavor upon what you are smoking. However there are levels to this. The type of fluid you use matters a GREAT deal. Zippo brand fluid burns the cleanest / has the best taste of the commercially available safe to use fluids designed to be smoked with. Ronsonol is the cheaper but also safe alternative. Ronsonol burns hotter & lasts longer but does produce a more noticeable flavor that to many (but not all) particularly those smoking cigars will find to be more odorous & thus impart more of that chemical taste. There are other brands as well with varying degrees of refinement & purity. But..... The technique in how you light a cigar, pipe, bowl, blunt or cigarette matters a great deal in how the taste is imparted. 1.)Essentially, when using a zippo lighter regardless of fuel type, light the zippo / petrol lighter away from your face. The initial ignition is mostly what you smell & taste. 2.) Wait 3-5 seconds before you begin lighting your cigar, bowl, blunt whatever. In this time the lighter will flame will flare up large then slightly shrink in size. You may even be tempted to wave the flame around or gently blow on it if you want to be extra sure the excess fuel / vapor is gone. 3.) Begin lighting your Cigar by fanning the flame into the unlit end, pulling in with your lungs & turning the cigar with your hands as you do to get a very consistent ignition. Enjoy smoking in style.
Yeah bro....I agree with you. I been smoking cigars since the 90s. Was using strictly Zippos back then. Then the butane torch craze took over. I jumped on the bandwagon myself but never really was crazy about refilling butane back then you had to have different size tip and nipples to fit different styles and types of lighters it was a real pain in the ass. So I just use Bic...but recently dug up an old Zippo that I had had brought it back to life. I do get a few look from folks, or comments when I post on social media. Yuck your ruining your cigar. How could you. On and on but I just sit back and enjoy. P.S Plus the fidget factor of the Zippo come on it was the original fidgety toy...lol
From what i've heard on the grapevine, Zippo has really got their stuff together when it comes to the fuel. I remember using a Zippo over a decade ago when i still smoked cigarettes (So of course i can't say anything about lighting cigars back then lol) and i did notice a significant difference in initial taste between a Zippo and a Butane gas lighter. But to reiterate, that was over a decade ago.
Glad I saw this video, just starting my Cigar journey and was getting a lot of flak for wanting to finally use my zippo lighter for anything other than a fun little thing to fill my palm and flick around.
I happen to agree with this opinion. However, Zippo now makes several butane torches that you can insert into your Zippo. These inserts include a Single Torch, Double Torch, and Soft Flame. Great Product
The only issue I see with a Zippo, or any soft flame, is the lack of accuracy and windproofing, I do prefer the jet flame lighters for bigger cigars (I use a chefs mini blowtorch lol). I lit cigarettes with Zippos for over 15 years and never tasted any fuel. A freshly struck match however can give a nasty taste, let it burn off.
I use the Zippo Slim version for that reason. With the glass wick trimmed even with the chimney, the soft flame size is perfect for cigars. 51 years of using a Zippo for premium cigars.
I’m so glad to hear this! A buddy of mine gave me a vintage zippo and i couldn’t wait to use it however everyone I know that smokes cigars said no way can you use a zippo on your cigars... thanks for this video!
Great video! I light my cigars all the time with a Zippo. I maybe taste a difference for 2-3 puffs if any and it's gone. You can't beat the feel of Zippo. You just cant.
Zippos normally don’t give you much of a hint of gas unless you light it up at the very top. I light stuff with zippos before and there’s basically no difference between them and a regular lighter. Even with a regular bic/clipper, you’ll eventually get a hint of lighter fluid especially when you smoke out of pipes.
I’ve heard the same thing but used a Zippo for years lighting my pipes. My late tobacconist used a Zippo and he just suggested to let it burn for a second before lighting to avoid any possibility of tasting the fluid (that was 25 years ago and the fluid may have been different then).
See, I have tried Zippos on cigars and I noticed a difference even when I was a cigarette smoker and my palate was iffy cause of it. Maybe I'm just particularly sensitive to it, but I could taste that fuel and I always go for the cleanest I can find. Mostly just in the first handful of puffs, but who knows if it effected it beyond that cause I didn't notice it as much. I just preferred a torch inside or out most of the time. The only time I dig a soft flame is when I smoke anything with a RG under 46 or so and I have a Zippo insert for that (the torch part is kinda trash but the soft flame is decent) and a couple of cheap refillable soft flame lighters I picked up through the years lol While I do love that the cigar community is so big on giving tips and aid to newcomers and even seasoned smokers who may not be getting the most from their cigars, there are a lotta myths floating around, bad advice is everywhere, and subjective things (like this topic here) are spoken like absolute truths all must live by. Another I strongly disagree with is giving new smokers a bunch of mild CT Shade wrapped cigars. Why? Especially of they were or are a cigarette or pipe smoker, they'll already have a nicotine tolerance and be bored very quickly of the limited flavor profile if they can taste it at all. The first few cigars I had were CT Shade and I almost walked away from cigars entirely because of that, I smoked cigarettes at the time and still to this day I'm picky about what CT shade cigars I'll smoke. If I hadn't found Maduros I never would have stuck around to see what all else is out there. While there are some very good, flavorful CT Shade cigars around, most aren't that and are boring cigar boom leftovers for occasional smokers who care more about looks than taste. So what I do is focus on Nicotine strength if they aren't a tobacco user and suggest they grab a few different cigars from different places with different wrappers and fillers to see what they like and I also tell em to expect to not like everything they smoke but that when they find one they do they'll know it. And if they're already pretty experienced tobacco users I don't even worry as much about nicotine and just tell em to try 1 of everything lol I just think it's a bad idea to create these misconceptions about cigars in people's minds. So many people have been smoking for 15 years but mostly smoke mild CT Shade cigars and have no clue what else is out there cause they were worried about a strong cigar like Macanudo Maduro, Ashton Aged Maduro, and a ton of other cigars out there don't have much more flavor without the nicotine kick. Wrapper leaf isn't even where the bulk of the Nicotine is but the common thinking is "Smoke lighter cigars to avoid strong ones".
One issue I have with a zippo vs a torch lighter is outdoors. It’s very hard with any kind of breeze even if it’s small To get a nice even burn when lighting your cigar with a zippo. I have a much easier time outdoors getting an even burn using a torch lighter. However when I’m out on my motorcycle I am almost always carrying a zippo.. and it’s my primary lighter.
Nice! I started smoking cigars nearly a couple of years ago and I went straight in with a zippo lighter. I figured it was a bit pretentious the way people were writing them off. I never noticed anything bad. Literally bought a butane insert this week because I always smoke them outside and it can be a pain to get the zippo to light them up properly with even the slightest bit of wind. Didn’t notice any difference at all with the flavour profile.
I used a standard zippo insert on a cigar for the first time last week. There was a VERY tiny difference in taste for me, but only for the first like, 3 or 4 puffs at most. It was also the nicest, most even light I've gotten so far.
I’ve used both zippo and Ronson fuel and can confirm zippo doesn’t leave a taste, however Ronson tainted the cigar so badly I threw it away. I do believe as you’ve stated it is the quality that matters
Interesting, I haven’t tried Ronson so I’ll take your word for it. The new zippo fuel is actually pretty great. Thank you for your thoughts man that was really helpful.
I've started my cigar journey with zippos. I always use lighter fluid by zippo and I haven't even once tasted the fluid. I even offered it to my cigar smoking friends and they only tasted the cigar so idc what other cigar smokers say I am using my zippo to light cigars.
So hype I will be able to use my Great Grandfather's zippo on my cigars! He used it from Germany to the US, all through WW2 for his pipe. It would just be a shame to see it not go to use!
@@leemanton4994 sorry just saw this but I def couldn't tell ya lolol i do know that it has a weird raised, black finish if that makes sense. Like it's not a flat or gloss finish.
Same debate bbq snobs had that lighter fluid ruins the flavor when smoking bbq then turns out Johny White from the best bbq in America, Goldees, uses lighter fluid.
It may be that I don’t have the most refined palate or it may be that I started with pipe smoking and have used a zippo pipe lighter for years but when I’m using soft flame I’m going to be using a liquid fuel lighter. I personally notice more negative impact on tobacco flavor from matches than from liquid fuel. I know that’s supposed to be heresy but even if I let a match burn halfway down I still taste sulfur, but I don’t really notice any impact from liquid fuel.
Thank you very much. I only smoke cigars once or twice a year SPECIAL OCCASIONS only. So buying a cigar lighter would be a waste for me since I will barely use it. I just quit cigarettes recently and trying out cigars on SPECIAL OCCASIONS only.
Didn't they change the fluid formulation many many years ago when they went to odorless? since then it seems to be a lot less of an issue. which was prob 10-20 years ago.
Who is this guy??? Why have I not watched your videos before?? It’s like you talk my mind when it comes to smoking cigars. Quality clip. I shall subscribe and I shall recommend good sir . 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼💨🥃
I've noticed that if you can't use the flame standing up then yes you will drip or pull some fume into whatever you got. But lighting it from the top of the flame does just fine
Try the Slim version, with wick trimmed even with the chimney, it's perfect soft flame size for cigars. I have 51 years of cigar experience, lol. The sterling silver model is the balls.
If you notice all the movies Arnold smokes in up until the most recent, he is using a zippo. I agree with the zippo brand fuel being the cleanest widely available brand. I tried ronsonol brand, I think, a yellow plastic bottle that had a very strong kerosene like smell. But it was gone in 1-2 puffs.
I heard it was different from person to person. I thought the zippo thing was BS too but when I tried it on a few cigars I could taste the fluid a little. Not enough to ruin it but if I thought about it I could make it out. Still use a normal zippo for my pipes. I did put a replacement butane insert in my limited edition anime Zippo but mostly I thought it would be cool to have it in there lol BUT it doesn't ruin the taste of cigar to use a normal zippo.
@@cigarinspector2023 Definitely, you have a good technique. Toast before clipping is recommended to minimise any flavours from lighting. I love Zippos so tried using them to light cigars but when I complete light by drawing on cigar I can taste the fuel. BUT, you have me sold, I am going to try again using your technique tonight! Cheers for review, thumbs up.
duanmcinnes if I’m not mistaken Zippo has improved their fuel so their current is lower in aroma and stuff so maybe it’s been improved or something. I agree though zippos are damn good lighters.
I could imagine that people who taste 10% coffee, 20% leather and 32% orange that has been grown on sandy soil and harvested at moonlight, would also taste the difference when you light the cigar with a Zippo. I am not one of them. Also for me the cigar is not only about the taste. It is about the whole experience, as probably for most people. And using a Zippo adds so much to it. Especially when it is freshly filled, makes a huge flame and the cap starts burning as well. The sound of opening a Zippo alone. *Clink!* Even if I could taste a difference, I would still use it.
i like the heritage of a zippo. i sometimes light my cigars with a zippo. i light a hemp wick with a zippo and use that. hemp wick is natural and no taste. it's great.
Thats what i always said. And if someone was REALLY concerned, just let the zippo flame stay lite for a few seconds, and then all fuel will be burnt off of the wick
Thanks. Gonna get a Zippo so I can do the joke I learned from the _Masters of the Air_ series: What's the difference between a hippo and a zippo? One is heavy and the other is a little lighter.
Yeah I saw that online however it doesn't have the windproof benefit that the normal insert from Zippo has. Also the butane inserts have terrible capacity.
When I was really in a bind for a light one time, I lit one with a regular plastic Bic lighter. I did not really notice a difference, was just a touch more difficult to light with because its not wind resistant like a torch would be.
Seems like this notion of lighter fluid ruining cigars is nonsense right. I tried a bunch of cigars at different sizes with the zippo and it makes no difference whats so ever. I lit on with a Butane first, took a draw and I used a zippo after that on the same cigar and still no difference.
I always used to use a Zippo - in the days when I was a heavy cigarette smoker - but now I quit and only smoke a couple of cigars a month, I definitely prefer to strike a nice match!
You're so cool I love it. Dude I have a question. Can I store my Zippo in my bottom tray of my humidor and lay it flat? Will it leak fluid if I do it like that?
I would say it's probably not a good idea to store lighters with flammabale objects. Zippo lighters do leak so it's likely going to amke your humidor smell. When the flame is on the fuel and aromas are burning off. However, if you just leave it then the aromas may get stuck in the humidor.
I have always used matches to light cigars. My cousin gave me a zippo and i tried it on a cigar i never had before. Maybe it was just a stronger cigar (I’m used to mild ones) but it wasn’t a good experience for me.
Dear Cigar Rants, Thank you to share it with us today your experience. After using this zippo, what do you think about the new tool with butane zippo lighter?
It could just be the residual or the smell that lingers in the air from the point you open up the zippo and people puff that smell in when they light their cigars thinking it's from the flame. Maybe it's the same with matches and the spill. I've never used a Zippo lighter myself so I wouldn't know for sure. But I do know the smell you get when you bring an opened Zippo to your face and that might be what's tainting the initial taste of the cigars. PS: Someone else already had made the same assessment in the comments.
I love your videos, they are really funny. Keep it up! Just a suggestion, don't spend a lot of money on good cigars if you can't even smell gasoline on them :)
Usman, yesterday my zippo butane insert turned up from Amazon for the very bullshit reason you are testing today. If only you made this video last week.
Oh I’m still buying the butane insert I think you did the right thing. Having both can be useful. In windy condition soft flame fly around too much regardless of whether it’s “wind proof” or not. I hope the butane insert comes in handy man :-).
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Can you send me the link to the zippo used in the video?
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My only problem with zippo lighters is deciding which zippo im gonna use each day 😆😆😆
Sounds like a very fun problem to have lol
Classic old school brass case that was gifted to me by my grandfather on my 16th birthday. The same zippo he carried through the pacific campaign in the Second World War.
@@cigarinspector2023 it is
Yup
@@dogsoldier8187 liar
Yep I agree 100%
I use Zippo's all the time and I've never tasted or smelled any fuel in my cigars.
IT IS JUST A MYTH.
Zippo has improved greatly the quality and "cleanliness" of their fuel so it might be that factor worth trying it with a cheap bogstandard fuel
I tried with a fuel called bull brand which is very cheap, my cigar tasted amazing, I think its just a snobby old wives tale
@@LunaRose1312 when he said he could smell it on his hand after holding it over the flame I tried it and I could smell it but the smell was gone from my hand after only a matter of seconds and that was with Clipper fluid which is the cheapest stuff. I also have azure branded naptha which I bought 5 litres of for 23.99 and that smells even less.
@@Destructor8031 naphtha is naphtha, people saying buy "high quality" are retards who don't know shit.
@@schlomoshekelstein908 A little bit harsh calling them retarded, but yeah. It's the same with brand name painkillers, the bog standard cheap Paracetamol or Ibuprofen have the exact same active ingredient. Only difference is the price.
@@LunaRose1312 I honestly think it’s just a snobby cigar smoker thing
I love this. I use a Zippo and have always had an issue with the complainers. Never had a bad taste.
Great video. Dispelling myths is one of TH-cam's greatest strengths and weaknesses. Thank you for the good info. Zippo's fuel has come a long way. Also they make butane for jet lighters.
I'm just feeling a bit awesome that you guys are watching my video haha. Oh man, today is a good day haha.
Thank you so much.
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@@PerdomoCigars That's amazing, thank you so much. I'm subscribed to you too. I love the tips and information your President has been putting out lately. His knowledge is so incredibly useful.
Zippo's double torch butane insert is very, very nice 👌
Agreed. The Zippo fuel has gotten much better over the years, but I would use a butane gas lighter as I can still tell slightly with zippo fluid.
What happens when you light up a cigar with a zippo? It catches someone's hair on fire from 3,000 miles away, if you go by how people on the internet act.
Lollll some of the reactions right haha.
You a smart fella people would call a fart smella
@@Persuadeeswym
Then the people who think one puff of tobacco will instantly kill everyone in a two-mile radius get you. 😂
Haha brilliant 😂🤣🤙👏
God damn! I have followed that anti-Zippo/lighter fluid rule ever since I started smoking cigars; never thought to question it. I have a few gifted Zippo/liquid lighters in a box in the back of a closet, because I never thought I would be able to use them. Now, I can't wait to dig them out and feel like the King of Lighters. Thank you so much for this!
Been using a Zippo on hand-rolled premium cigars for 51 years. Back in the 90's a friend and i blind taste tested Zippo fuel versus butane. Could detect no difference. For years now I've used the Slim version Zippo cause with the glass wick trimmed even with the chimney, the soft flame size is perfect for cigars. I use a precious metal one for a classy experience. You can still pick up a sterling Slim on Ebay or such for less than $100, vintage ones often much less. And of course they have the forever Zippo guarantee. Nuff said.
There you go, all i needed to hear. Thanks
@@anthonyamato9832 what's a slim?
Myth busted Jamie and Adam would be proud
It always felt like just one of those rules that people hear and believe without actually having tried it. I would guess, if anything, it's just down to the smell of the zippo; not that it does anything to the cigar but if you've got a zippo close to your face as you are drawing from you cigar the smell of it might find it's way to you and skew your senses a bit. I personally use my zippo for cigars and, like you, notice no difference.
Great video! Always good for people to try stuff rather than just blindly accept what they've heard.
You know that’s a really good point and yes that could be it. Thank you so much for watching man really appreciate it.
I was one of those people- I heard it in the 90s and repeated it to various other people over the years. Never having owned a zippo it wasn’t an issue, but once I got one I wanted to know and now I’m safe in the knowledge that my cool zippos will do just fine 😄 thanks for the video mate 👍🏼
As for me I really like the smell of my zippo so no complaints there lol. But yes I’m sure you’re right; the same thought occurred to me.
Thank you so much. I used to light my cigars with a butane torch, because everybody else online said not to use a zippo. But ive never owned a zippo. After this video, I bought one and started lighting different cigars with it.
If all the other guys are correct, I should get the same taste out of each different type of cigar, which would be the fuel taste and smell.
But so far all the cigars had their own different unique taste. The cheap ones smelled and tasted cheap. The high quality ones smelled and tasted like high quality cigars.
Only time I smell the lighter fluid is when I take the zippo out of my pocket, because the fluid is constantly in an evaporating state.
I think the people just holding their zippos in their hand and the cigar in the other and they smell the zippo and not the cigar.
Thanks for your video.
I've bought a Zippo butane insert for my Zippos and honestly I feel I'm just cheating. I love my Zippos and I've stood my ground many times against people that say it affects the flavour profile. Great video once again! Thanks for doing this
Using petrol Zippo for 51 years. I use a precious metal Slim version. With wick trimmed even with the chimney, it's perfect soft flame size for cigars.
I got the soft flame zippo insert and it’s nice, except for that I hate having to hold down the button to maintain the flame. That, and the button is kind of small and slick so it takes more effort than I feel like it probably should.
Thank you. I have used my Zippo to light my cigars for over 30 years. During that same time, I have listened to big talkers laugh at me . I had a beautiful Dunhill fuel lighter which was no problem once I turned up the flame. Toasting is for bread, not cigars, they just need a light.
Great videos, keep up the great work 👍🍸👏 bravo
The ruin your cigar argument is complete nonsense. 30 years says a lot.
51 years lighting premium cigars with a Zippo. I use a Slim as with the glass wick trimmed even with chimney top, the flame size is perfect for cigars.
Hey man, nice video. I'm a cigar and pipe smoker and I use zippo. I will say though that I used matches on my pipe this winter and immediately noticed the fuel taste when I went back to my zippo pipe lighter. It burns off in 2-4 puffs but I definitely taste it. I do have a pretty sensitive palette though with food, drink, everything so it could be there there are just some folks who have more sensitive taste buds. I love my zippos though and will now do an experiment. Even though I have a zippo butane lighter for my cigars, I'm going to try lighting one with my zippo pipe lighter soon. I'll use a Drew Estates Factory Smokes and see if i taste fluid. If I do, if it goes away in a couple puffs, in my opinion, it's not the end of the world. Nothing wrong with looking for something better but I believe we've all gotten discontent and a bit soft in modern society...
So Update - I had a Drew Estates Factory Smokes Shade connecticut yesterday and lit it with my zippo pipe lighter. I lit it first, then cut the head with a v-cutter. I had no lighter fluid taste or any kind of off taste at all. I also had to do a relite a little past halfway due to a phone call. I had no off flavor there either. Good to know! I do however get the lighter fluid taste in my pipes, but it's survivable.
I recently purchased a vector lighter that has a flame and torch option in one lighter. Its fuel is butane. I'm very pleased with it because of the option. If your cigar is burning uneven, the single torch is a button push away to getting it back to burning even. Just gently torch the uneven wrapper, and a few draws later, it will correct itself.
For a bit of extra info.
Yes, to the utmost Cigar aficionado, Petrol based lights, like a zippo or an IMCO do impart a flavor upon what you are smoking. However there are levels to this.
The type of fluid you use matters a GREAT deal.
Zippo brand fluid burns the cleanest / has the best taste of the commercially available safe to use fluids designed to be smoked with.
Ronsonol is the cheaper but also safe alternative. Ronsonol burns hotter & lasts longer but does produce a more noticeable flavor that to many (but not all) particularly those smoking cigars will find to be more odorous & thus impart more of that chemical taste.
There are other brands as well with varying degrees of refinement & purity.
But.....
The technique in how you light a cigar, pipe, bowl, blunt or cigarette matters a great deal in how the taste is imparted.
1.)Essentially, when using a zippo lighter regardless of fuel type, light the zippo / petrol lighter away from your face. The initial ignition is mostly what you smell & taste.
2.) Wait 3-5 seconds before you begin lighting your cigar, bowl, blunt whatever. In this time the lighter will flame will flare up large then slightly shrink in size. You may even be tempted to wave the flame around or gently blow on it if you want to be extra sure the excess fuel / vapor is gone.
3.) Begin lighting your Cigar by fanning the flame into the unlit end, pulling in with your lungs & turning the cigar with your hands as you do to get a very consistent ignition.
Enjoy smoking in style.
Yeah bro....I agree with you. I been smoking cigars since the 90s. Was using strictly Zippos back then. Then the butane torch craze took over. I jumped on the bandwagon myself but never really was crazy about refilling butane back then you had to have different size tip and nipples to fit different styles and types of lighters it was a real pain in the ass. So I just use Bic...but recently dug up an old Zippo that I had had brought it back to life. I do get a few look from folks, or comments when I post on social media. Yuck your ruining your cigar. How could you. On and on but I just sit back and enjoy.
P.S Plus the fidget factor of the Zippo come on it was the original fidgety toy...lol
The Zippo is the original reusable lighter.
Zippo is a stylish carry, if you don't like the liquid fuel there's are butane inserts available✌
are they different?
@@keuwlcat1319 no, they're basically just zippo shaped butane torches that fit inside zippo cases
@@aconfusedshoe6240 thank you
From what i've heard on the grapevine, Zippo has really got their stuff together when it comes to the fuel. I remember using a Zippo over a decade ago when i still smoked cigarettes (So of course i can't say anything about lighting cigars back then lol) and i did notice a significant difference in initial taste between a Zippo and a Butane gas lighter. But to reiterate, that was over a decade ago.
I’m glad a ran across your channel always wanted a zippo for my cigars.
Glad I saw this video, just starting my Cigar journey and was getting a lot of flak for wanting to finally use my zippo lighter for anything other than a fun little thing to fill my palm and flick around.
I happen to agree with this opinion. However, Zippo now makes several butane torches that you can insert into your Zippo. These inserts include a Single Torch, Double Torch, and Soft Flame. Great Product
The only issue I see with a Zippo, or any soft flame, is the lack of accuracy and windproofing, I do prefer the jet flame lighters for bigger cigars (I use a chefs mini blowtorch lol). I lit cigarettes with Zippos for over 15 years and never tasted any fuel. A freshly struck match however can give a nasty taste, let it burn off.
A great point. Soft flame lighters are not as precise and can cause issues on occasions.
I use the Zippo Slim version for that reason. With the glass wick trimmed even with the chimney, the soft flame size is perfect for cigars. 51 years of using a Zippo for premium cigars.
zippos are just so classy they pair perfectly with cigars
I’ve always wondered about this. That being said zippo did start producing butane inserts within the last couple of years that work great.
I’m so glad to hear this! A buddy of mine gave me a vintage zippo and i couldn’t wait to use it however everyone I know that smokes cigars said no way can you use a zippo on your cigars... thanks for this video!
That makes me soo happy. Thank you very much for watching, I'm so pleased my video was beneficial to you.
Great video! I light my cigars all the time with a Zippo. I maybe taste a difference for 2-3 puffs if any and it's gone. You can't beat the feel of Zippo. You just cant.
Zippos normally don’t give you much of a hint of gas unless you light it up at the very top. I light stuff with zippos before and there’s basically no difference between them and a regular lighter. Even with a regular bic/clipper, you’ll eventually get a hint of lighter fluid especially when you smoke out of pipes.
I’ve heard the same thing but used a Zippo for years lighting my pipes. My late tobacconist used a Zippo and he just suggested to let it burn for a second before lighting to avoid any possibility of tasting the fluid (that was 25 years ago and the fluid may have been different then).
I have used my zippo's lighters for years to light my cigars as long as there is low wind and never had a problem.
See, I have tried Zippos on cigars and I noticed a difference even when I was a cigarette smoker and my palate was iffy cause of it. Maybe I'm just particularly sensitive to it, but I could taste that fuel and I always go for the cleanest I can find. Mostly just in the first handful of puffs, but who knows if it effected it beyond that cause I didn't notice it as much.
I just preferred a torch inside or out most of the time. The only time I dig a soft flame is when I smoke anything with a RG under 46 or so and I have a Zippo insert for that (the torch part is kinda trash but the soft flame is decent) and a couple of cheap refillable soft flame lighters I picked up through the years lol
While I do love that the cigar community is so big on giving tips and aid to newcomers and even seasoned smokers who may not be getting the most from their cigars, there are a lotta myths floating around, bad advice is everywhere, and subjective things (like this topic here) are spoken like absolute truths all must live by.
Another I strongly disagree with is giving new smokers a bunch of mild CT Shade wrapped cigars. Why? Especially of they were or are a cigarette or pipe smoker, they'll already have a nicotine tolerance and be bored very quickly of the limited flavor profile if they can taste it at all.
The first few cigars I had were CT Shade and I almost walked away from cigars entirely because of that, I smoked cigarettes at the time and still to this day I'm picky about what CT shade cigars I'll smoke. If I hadn't found Maduros I never would have stuck around to see what all else is out there.
While there are some very good, flavorful CT Shade cigars around, most aren't that and are boring cigar boom leftovers for occasional smokers who care more about looks than taste. So what I do is focus on Nicotine strength if they aren't a tobacco user and suggest they grab a few different cigars from different places with different wrappers and fillers to see what they like and I also tell em to expect to not like everything they smoke but that when they find one they do they'll know it. And if they're already pretty experienced tobacco users I don't even worry as much about nicotine and just tell em to try 1 of everything lol
I just think it's a bad idea to create these misconceptions about cigars in people's minds. So many people have been smoking for 15 years but mostly smoke mild CT Shade cigars and have no clue what else is out there cause they were worried about a strong cigar like Macanudo Maduro, Ashton Aged Maduro, and a ton of other cigars out there don't have much more flavor without the nicotine kick. Wrapper leaf isn't even where the bulk of the Nicotine is but the common thinking is "Smoke lighter cigars to avoid strong ones".
One issue I have with a zippo vs a torch lighter is outdoors. It’s very hard with any kind of breeze even if it’s small To get a nice even burn when lighting your cigar with a zippo. I have a much easier time outdoors getting an even burn using a torch lighter. However when I’m out on my motorcycle I am almost always carrying a zippo.. and it’s my primary lighter.
Jet flames are super useful in so many scenarios. You're absolutely right.
Oh man I’m glad you did this video! I have. Vintage DuPont I’ve hesitated to use. Now ill do try it
I want my first cigar to be lit by a zippo major bad ass status right there
Anything but a bic
I've used liquid a fueled Ziploc to light pipes. I've never noticed an added flavor.
For the love of God, smoke the way you want to!!
Nice! I started smoking cigars nearly a couple of years ago and I went straight in with a zippo lighter. I figured it was a bit pretentious the way people were writing them off. I never noticed anything bad. Literally bought a butane insert this week because I always smoke them outside and it can be a pain to get the zippo to light them up properly with even the slightest bit of wind. Didn’t notice any difference at all with the flavour profile.
I used a standard zippo insert on a cigar for the first time last week. There was a VERY tiny difference in taste for me, but only for the first like, 3 or 4 puffs at most. It was also the nicest, most even light I've gotten so far.
I love the mañanitas. This was my first cuban cigar and those made me want more. This particular cigar is one i smoked the most of.
I’ve used both zippo and Ronson fuel and can confirm zippo doesn’t leave a taste, however Ronson tainted the cigar so badly I threw it away. I do believe as you’ve stated it is the quality that matters
Interesting, I haven’t tried Ronson so I’ll take your word for it. The new zippo fuel is actually pretty great.
Thank you for your thoughts man that was really helpful.
I always saw movie actors light the cigar with a zippo lol didn’t know there was some tule about it
great topic my pal!! light the cigar with any besides Zippos are the best lights existed
I've started my cigar journey with zippos. I always use lighter fluid by zippo and I haven't even once tasted the fluid. I even offered it to my cigar smoking friends and they only tasted the cigar so idc what other cigar smokers say I am using my zippo to light cigars.
What happens is you look cool.
i love that you normally light then cut, you must be a man of class with your cigars!
Not sure if this has been asked or even covered but why do you light before you cut and does it make a difference?
So hype I will be able to use my Great Grandfather's zippo on my cigars! He used it from Germany to the US, all through WW2 for his pipe. It would just be a shame to see it not go to use!
That is so incredible, I can’t even...
Is it a black crackle?
@@leemanton4994 sorry just saw this but I def couldn't tell ya lolol i do know that it has a weird raised, black finish if that makes sense. Like it's not a flat or gloss finish.
Thank you for bringing that up.
Same debate bbq snobs had that lighter fluid ruins the flavor when smoking bbq then turns out Johny White from the best bbq in America, Goldees, uses lighter fluid.
Thank you so much from Germany. There are stories to be told…
For me I learn the traditions, then you do you. Keep it up I enjoy the video.
It may be that I don’t have the most refined palate or it may be that I started with pipe smoking and have used a zippo pipe lighter for years but when I’m using soft flame I’m going to be using a liquid fuel lighter. I personally notice more negative impact on tobacco flavor from matches than from liquid fuel. I know that’s supposed to be heresy but even if I let a match burn halfway down I still taste sulfur, but I don’t really notice any impact from liquid fuel.
Thank you very much. I only smoke cigars once or twice a year SPECIAL OCCASIONS only. So buying a cigar lighter would be a waste for me since I will barely use it. I just quit cigarettes recently and trying out cigars on SPECIAL OCCASIONS only.
Thank you sir! Now I could enjoy my Zippo and my Cigars in peace.
Didn't they change the fluid formulation many many years ago when they went to odorless? since then it seems to be a lot less of an issue. which was prob 10-20 years ago.
Who is this guy??? Why have I not watched your videos before?? It’s like you talk my mind when it comes to smoking cigars. Quality clip. I shall subscribe and I shall recommend good sir . 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼💨🥃
aw man that's so awesome of you to say. Thank you so much :).
Yeah and If zippo fluid were effecting on your cigars or pipes then the Zippo would not make a lighter for a pipe..
I can taste it in my pipes.
@@Jaymepenni oh.... sorry to hear that..
does it bother you?
I've noticed that if you can't use the flame standing up then yes you will drip or pull some fume into whatever you got. But lighting it from the top of the flame does just fine
@@jadedclone6728 you mean it's best kept upright? Why would that make a difference?
Been a cigar smoker for a decade and never used a zippo. I love this video man. Cheers
Thank you so much :)
Try the Slim version, with wick trimmed even with the chimney, it's perfect soft flame size for cigars. I have 51 years of cigar experience, lol. The sterling silver model is the balls.
Wow, thank you for solving all these myths!
If you notice all the movies Arnold smokes in up until the most recent, he is using a zippo. I agree with the zippo brand fuel being the cleanest widely available brand. I tried ronsonol brand, I think, a yellow plastic bottle that had a very strong kerosene like smell. But it was gone in 1-2 puffs.
Brilliant video.
I heard it was different from person to person. I thought the zippo thing was BS too but when I tried it on a few cigars I could taste the fluid a little. Not enough to ruin it but if I thought about it I could make it out. Still use a normal zippo for my pipes. I did put a replacement butane insert in my limited edition anime Zippo but mostly I thought it would be cool to have it in there lol BUT it doesn't ruin the taste of cigar to use a normal zippo.
I agree 100%
Try drawing the cigar as you do initial light, or when you have to relight a cigar closer to the stub.
I find that always tends to make the first few draws bitter.
@@cigarinspector2023 Definitely, you have a good technique. Toast before clipping is recommended to minimise any flavours from lighting. I love Zippos so tried using them to light cigars but when I complete light by drawing on cigar I can taste the fuel. BUT, you have me sold, I am going to try again using your technique tonight! Cheers for review, thumbs up.
duanmcinnes if I’m not mistaken Zippo has improved their fuel so their current is lower in aroma and stuff so maybe it’s been improved or something.
I agree though zippos are damn good lighters.
Send me the link to that lighter. I like the way it looks
I like you, you get right to the point!
I could imagine that people who taste 10% coffee, 20% leather and 32% orange that has been grown on sandy soil and harvested at moonlight, would also taste the difference when you light the cigar with a Zippo. I am not one of them.
Also for me the cigar is not only about the taste. It is about the whole experience, as probably for most people. And using a Zippo adds so much to it. Especially when it is freshly filled, makes a huge flame and the cap starts burning as well. The sound of opening a Zippo alone. *Clink!* Even if I could taste a difference, I would still use it.
i like the heritage of a zippo. i sometimes light my cigars with a zippo. i light a hemp wick with a zippo and use that. hemp wick is natural and no taste. it's great.
hemp wick ?? where might I buy that?
Thats what i always said. And if someone was REALLY concerned, just let the zippo flame stay lite for a few seconds, and then all fuel will be burnt off of the wick
New to cigars, had to subscribe, thanks
I've always heard about it. I just bought a zippo, but got to thinking how did people enjoy cigars back then besides the typical match.
I have a few to choose between and two with butane inserts.
Get a zippo yellow flame insert for the convenience of butane with the wind resistance of a zippo
Very informative, just subscribed.
Thanks. Gonna get a Zippo so I can do the joke I learned from the _Masters of the Air_ series:
What's the difference between a hippo and a zippo?
One is heavy and the other is a little lighter.
you should try a thunderbird vector soft flame lighter, they look like zippos but use a butane soft flame
Yeah I saw that online however it doesn't have the windproof benefit that the normal insert from Zippo has. Also the butane inserts have terrible capacity.
lol its that hell boy movie ..scene I saw ..'use matchstick preserves flavour". scene lol.. I never tried cigar thinking of getting into it
Where did you buy this zippo ? The engraving is one of the nicest that I saw in my life. Really cool one.
Links in bio and on pinned comment :).
@@cigarinspector2023 Oh yeah I know I did check it out but I didn’t find yours hahah !
I'm 22 I want to buy a Zippo and start Smoking cigars lol
Welcome :). If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
When I was really in a bind for a light one time, I lit one with a regular plastic Bic lighter. I did not really notice a difference, was just a touch more difficult to light with because its not wind resistant like a torch would be.
Seems like this notion of lighter fluid ruining cigars is nonsense right. I tried a bunch of cigars at different sizes with the zippo and it makes no difference whats so ever. I lit on with a Butane first, took a draw and I used a zippo after that on the same cigar and still no difference.
Bic lighters use butane just like a jet lighter, so there is really no difference other than the fuel delivery method.
Thank you for putting it together
I always used to use a Zippo - in the days when I was a heavy cigarette smoker - but now I quit and only smoke a couple of cigars a month, I definitely prefer to strike a nice match!
You're so cool I love it. Dude I have a question. Can I store my Zippo in my bottom tray of my humidor and lay it flat? Will it leak fluid if I do it like that?
I would say it's probably not a good idea to store lighters with flammabale objects. Zippo lighters do leak so it's likely going to amke your humidor smell. When the flame is on the fuel and aromas are burning off. However, if you just leave it then the aromas may get stuck in the humidor.
I think doing so with petroleum based lighters is a bad idea as they have a potent oil-like aroma to them
Love a dirty gold zippo, reminds me of Arnold lighting up on the chopper in predator.
I have always used matches to light cigars. My cousin gave me a zippo and i tried it on a cigar i never had before. Maybe it was just a stronger cigar (I’m used to mild ones) but it wasn’t a good experience for me.
If you want the classic design of a Zippo but are concerned about the fuel or soft flame...Zippo has butane single and double flame inserts.
Did a review on them too :). Thank you for watching, appreciate it.
I just watched a video about Arnold Schwarzenegger smoking cigars in movie. And I found most of the time he lights the cigar with zippo.
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Dear Cigar Rants, Thank you to share it with us today your experience. After using this zippo, what do you think about the new tool with butane zippo lighter?
Even you do taste a bit of lighter fluid, it’s only minor and disappears. Light the cigar anyway you want 👍🏻
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Awesome video dude
very helpful thank you!
Great Video!! love using a zippo with my cigars! Break the Myths!
It could just be the residual or the smell that lingers in the air from the point you open up the zippo and people puff that smell in when they light their cigars thinking it's from the flame.
Maybe it's the same with matches and the spill.
I've never used a Zippo lighter myself so I wouldn't know for sure.
But I do know the smell you get when you bring an opened Zippo to your face and that might be what's tainting the initial taste of the cigars.
PS:
Someone else already had made the same assessment in the comments.
Somebody told me that the whole myth was started by butane lighter manufacturers t help sales. Haven't been able to find anything on it though.
I love your videos, they are really funny. Keep it up! Just a suggestion, don't spend a lot of money on good cigars if you can't even smell gasoline on them :)
Hey man, nice video. Where can I find such a beautiful Zippo??! Thanks
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I prefer used wood matches for cigars buy mostly i used regular lighters as well sometimes I have no lighter so i used my butane torch.
Really I wouldn't expect it to make a huge difference, use what works for you, if it was a pipe I could understand!
Usman, yesterday my zippo butane insert turned up from Amazon for the very bullshit reason you are testing today. If only you made this video last week.
Oh I’m still buying the butane insert I think you did the right thing. Having both can be useful. In windy condition soft flame fly around too much regardless of whether it’s “wind proof” or not.
I hope the butane insert comes in handy man :-).