2022 Subaru BRZ review (inc. 0-100): Is it different enough from the old one?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- One of the reasons I hated the Toyota 86 when it first launched was because I drove an automatic. It was soul destroyingly slow and ran on Prius tyres. BUT, when I drove the manual, it ALL started to make sense again. So I was naturally excited to drive the 2022 Subaru BRZ with the bigger engine and of course, the manual transmission. Is it any good? Paul Maric finds out!
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Intro: 00:00
Exterior 01:08
Interior 03:43
Infotainment 05:19
Safety Tech 06:52
Practicality 07:53
On Road 11:47
0-100 km/h 16:02
Verdict 17:17
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in his spare time, Paul Maric puts on an American accent, and creates Family Guy, hosts Comedy Central Roasts, hosts the Oscars and ocassionally makes movies like Ted. Onya fella, Aussie made good.
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Hi everyone, apologies for the typo at the start on the AUD to USD conversion. The correct figure should be ~$29,000 USD. Thanks for pointing it out! - Igor
Another correction- The car isn't 15mm lower clearance, its roofing is 15mm lower
Its also 234hp in Australia, you are showing the USD version.
@@Blight-fp3vt they aren't doing very well with the conversion metrics are they!
@@zinny999 Its a little sloppy yeah.
@@Blight-fp3vt I think you mean hp?
Just bought a manual BRZ. I used to own a Mazda MX-5. I absolutely love the BRZ, the gear shifting is fantastic and the vision is much better in the BRZ. I thought the MX-5 was good but the BRZ takes it to a whole new level. Very enjoyable and puts a smile on your dial!
Which MX5 series if you don't mind me asking? Makes me wanna buy the brz even more from your statement. Thnx
@@alexbarquin9 It was a 2 litre ND GT model, I also find it easier to get out of the BRZ and even the cupholders are easier to use. The only better thing that I found in the MX5 was the Bose sound system.
How I miss manual transmissions! Great review Paul
Me too! It has been ages since I’ve driven with one!
I've had mine (identical to test car) for two months now and absolutely love it. Seriously, that missing safety tech is no big deal. If it was there, it would just be more crap I'd have to figure out how to turn off. Paul your review was so much better than Jenny's. You identified the niche this car sits in and weren't critical when the car performed or made appropriate noise to meet that niche and you didn't favour '...the more desirable automatic...' I almost choked when she spruked that utter BS.
Great review of a very worthy vehicle.
Picked mine up on January 15th just before the supply ran out. Same color as in the vid.
Drives brilliant. Been several decades since my last proper rear drive sports car. Almost forgot what I have been missing. Suspension tuning is a perfect balance between ride and handling, rotates nicely. Steering is wonderful.
Never drove the earlier version because reports of the lack of torque put me off. Not an issue here. 2nd gear starts are even possible. Required in snow. Very drivable. Compares well to the torquey car it replaces - a 03' Sentra SE-R Spec V.
Choice between the Subota and the Toybaru came down to availability (there simply weren't any GT86 around) and the heated seats on the Zed being fabric, not leather. The styling differences were irrelevant to me other than the more prominent rear spoiler on the GT86 which I felt was too shouty.
Using it 365 in Minnesota. With 205/50R17 Michelin XIce Snow tires driving it winter is as normal as can be. No worries.
I like the red accents in the Sibaru cabin, the Toyota front bumper, but still the main difference is in the suspension. This should be the most important factor in choosing if you are not ready to immediately purchase a third-party suspension.
I envy you,
I have to wait another 4-6 months for my gr 😱
Glad to hear that winter driving is possible 😁
@@user-bf2dd4ve8l - Never went through a 10" blizzard but 6" was no problem.
@@user-bf2dd4ve8l - I needed a car ASAP when I purchased my BRZ, picking it primarily because the heated seats were not leather and unlike the Toyota at the time, it was available.
Roughly in that order.
Suspension tuning unfortunately had nothing to do with it and I never even drove either car prior to delivery so could make no comparison.
I also preferred the Zed's more low-key rear spoiler but that was a minor concern.
That said, I am happy with the suspension on my BRZ. Its a fantastic road car with the perfect compromise of ride vs. handling for daily use. I will autocross it 6-8 times a year but not being as competitively minded as I was in my youth if its a fraction of a second slower then they GR then so be it.
You mean GR86... Because GT 86 is no longer in production.
@@user-bf2dd4ve8l I think you get the same interior in Toyota
On the 2nd check.. they do have red accent on Toyota as well
You should do more sport car reviews Paul. Really enjoyed this one. Cheers!
I may be biased, as I intend to order one this week but want to point out
to all those people, not so much here in Australia but in the states who believe
it needs a turbo.
From what I have read/watched, this car's 0 - 60mph/100kmh is reported to be
what?
Anywhere from 6.0 to 6.5 seconds approx?
Standing 400m/quarter mile, have people said 14.5 seconds approx?
According to old magazine tests( Wheels & Sports car world)
Our own Ford XY GTHO's (1500kg approx) 0 - 60mph/96kmh = 6.4 seconds
Standing 400m/quarter mile 14.7 seconds (3.25 ratio)
Valiant Charger E49's (1368kg) 0 - 60mph/96kmh = 6.1 seconds
Standing 400m/quarter mile = 14.4 seconds (3.5 ratio)
Now I cant confirm the 2022 BRZ's times ( can someone?) but if true,
it will hose all our so called Aussie muscle cars of the early 70's.
I say this with the utmost respect for those vehicles.
It really puts this car's performance into perspective, does it not?
I realise there is 50 years difference in technology/ weight but also a big
difference in capacity/ output.
I think in these times we should be thankful, someone is building a
light weight, somewhat affordable, rear wheel drive manual sports coupe.
You are right
Paul, I think I'm too used to you reviewing giant trucks/utes and SUVs, it makes this car look comically small when next to you standing up on camera 😂
Haha. Very true!
Great video Paul!
I will be ordering one in the next few days,
this exact car unless I go the pearl white.
Turning sixty in April, so why not.
Hope to get it before Xmas.
Good review as always, thanks.
Front engine, rear wheel drive, manual, bravo!🙂
Been waiting for this. Awesome stuff.
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I really hate how Toyota charges us $425 for White and Red while Subaru offers every color for free.
Ohhh yes I was waiting on this one. Thanks #carexpert 👍
PAUL ALWAYS WITH THE AMAZING CONTENT I LOVE IT
Thanks legend.
Hi Paul great informative review as always. I owned the first edition of the 86 and look forward to driving the new 86 or BRZ to see and feel for myself on how this wonderful little sports car has improved. The main thing I wasn’t happy with on the old model if it was used as a daily driver the ride could be very harsh. I’d be interested to know how the ride is on the new model.
Love this. New styling is great.
YESSSSSSS THANK YOU SO MUCH PAULL
You’re welcome!
Paul with one L lol
Just bought a 2023 BRZ, it's such a great car! Get the manual if you're in the market for one. You won't regret it!!
Great review as always but can someone please buy Paul some Aeroguard? All that Aussie saluting was driving me nuts 😊
i love the looks especially in this blue colour i can't wait to see in person and i can drive this in virtual
Looks great in blue!
@@CarExpertAus Hi Paul, struggling to spot one of these in black in real life - have you seen one and in terms of looks - thoughts?
Great value!!!
I subscribed as soon as I heard the Aussie Accent 😂
TBH the exterior stylings of the previous gen was way better. Hope you get a chance to review the new Zed when it arrives, that’ll put a smile on your face 😎
In terms of exterior styling i definitely prefer the GR86 front look compared to the new BRZ. It just look cleaner and simpler in a good way.
I feel the exact opposite lol
Don't like the 86 front end at all. Looks like a piece missing. The big black mouth doesn't suit the car as a subtle performance car.
@@itsSkippy641 then you're wrong..
@@bushcraft3773 BRZ looks weird with those side air vents.
@@bushcraft3773 gen 2 was designed by Subaru, they basically did the entire revision, so if anything I like to think of the gen 2 being more Subaru influenced in styling. Gen 1 on the other-hand is more Toyota influenced in styling. Look at the rear of 2022 BRZ, then look at rear of 2022 WRX (not including the diffuser) and they look almost the same.
someone fell thru on one and i might be picking it up soon :)
Damn! Those flies 😳
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I had the old GTS 86, it was a lovely polarising car. I enjoyed it for 5 years then sold it, when this newish BRZ came out I took it for a test drive.. The quality built and performance is markably better.
The main difference I found is that the power comes early and actually feels fast ☺️
The disappointment is that the Design is a bit too close to the old one, I’d prefer the car to feel and look different. So don’t think I will go for it again. Great review Paul as always 🙂
Amazing
Cars like this make me miss my RX8 just simple fun sports cars that look good and drive even better and with enough performance for a novice
Agreed! Nothing over the top and easy to modify.
I really like the outside except for the back, someone on CE once said it looked like a Hyundai Tiburon from the rear and I can’t unsee it. The car fits its brief perfectly and most aftermarket turbo kits fit almost like the engineers left exactly the right amount of room on purpose 😉
Yes-Tiburon thats what I was thinking!
I think the Hyundai Tiburon is a good looking car that has aged nicely, TBH.
What Tiburons are you guys looking at!? I have a 2006 Tiburon and the rears look nothing alike lmao
Will this new BRZ have more recall the recalls than the previous version?
Waiting for toyota to release the gr86 here in NZ but it looks like they wont release it this year 😕
looks good goes well , would be fun car , cheers {Paul
Looks aggressive and nicer than the previous model!
good idea to turn the headrest around when wearing a helmet!
This is a very cute looking car. I like it.
I would appreciate a video which highlights the differences between this and the GR86, because I really can't see much more beyond which service centre is more convenient for you.
Will do once the 86 launches in Australia 😁
Bugger all. Different rear sway bar mounting methods (subframe vs chassis) and slightly stiffer front spring on GR86. You wouldn’t even know it was diff
Thanks for the review. by the way is the conversion to USD listed on the screen at the start correct? Should have multiplied AUD price by current exchange rate not divided so around 29k USD not 56k?
I just thought our Aussie dollar had gone bonkers!🤣
Someone pressed the wrong button on the calculator
Sorry about that!
I saw a new BRZ about a month ago and although the front and back look better the side profile was strange.
I'm keen to see the 86 because I think it's a better looking car.
Give it to Atko for the track test 😎
Definitely! We have something planned in May 😁
I reckon you should check if the side pockets fit protein shakers. Realistically, there will be a lot of buyers blaring around in this on the way to the gym.
Why the front LED of BRZ not lightning all ? ( C-shaped lights do not glow )
I’m thinking about getting one. However I’m not sure how’s it gonna perform in WA. I wanna use it for long distance road trips, but BRZ requires 98 fuel. :-/
why didn’t they just retune the 2L for better mpg…. or even make a 1.8?
It's weird they didn't do something about excessive road noise on the highway as so many of Australia's roads are noisy as it is. If it is just to be used as a track car fair enough but it would be a pain in the arse to take it away on a weekend drive or something.
I didn't see an oil gauge - does it have one?
Everyone keeps saying the GR 86 has the better front bumper but I think people are sleeping on what the BRZ front end is trying to do. The 86 kept it conservative, like its something you've seen before. The BRZ is refreshing and pushes for a modern look.
Same style wheels as the gr rallye. I’m guessing these aren’t forged lightweight though.
Did they use two different designers for the dash vents? The outer large round units look tacked on. Why can't most/all Japanese car designers go and look/sit in an Audi/VW/Jaguar? Secondly, time to replace Michelin PS4s with quiet Goodyear Asym 6's that do work very well in the wet, even when cold. I fitted a set of Asym 5's to the previous model 86, and immediately helped on long trips.
Paul, you really need to upsize your coffee cup!
I just wish brz has a hard top convertible version
wow a full size spare tyre..? never seen those from the review in the US or canada.. nice feature. but it take so much space.
The Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 5 is actually slightly better than the Pilot Sport 4 as tested in an array of conditions but both are very similar.
Nexen Sur4G is by far the best tyre I have used on the BRZ/86.
So who is driving their BRZ with the full size spare wheel removed to save weight and reinstall it upon remote trip? What do you guy do with the residual hole?
You are the first who did a “softness test”, but I would like to know the db inside. I noticed that you were driving slow (under 50-60km), maybe to keep the noise down? Like compared to other cars, how is the situation?
He mentions noise at higher speeds a little later on. Definitely a car that would benefit from some sound deadening material if you feel inclined
Hail to Manual! ♥️
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What do you reckon a BRZ/86 would be like with the engine from the GR Yaris?! As an 86, mustang, supra owner… reckon gr yaris might trump them all! And yeah build quality of the 86 was okay… better than the mustang - think paper mache with a paper weight up front!
Review The Toyota Granvia Please
Still no i30 sedan n review ?
I think you guys mixed up the USD and AUD in your pricing
Hey Paul will u be doing an Audi A3 sedan 35TFSI review?
Not at this stage. But will try and track one down!
Buy now or wait for a full fruit BRZ STi / GRMN 86? Though it might just be brakes, wheels, tyres and damper upgrades.
Approved
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I do want to love this car and I bet it is great fun but with the i30N still in town it's a tough one to walk away from...
Was the pricing wrong? 40k = 56k usd?? lol
That spare tyre in the boot would be a pain in the a... Can it be removed?
Why do t they put in a ej25 turbo and make it 300hp
poor Paul had to keep battling the damn mosquitoes
Small thing but in the intro - isn't 40 grand here around 29 in USD? Not 56
They added the MSRP all the US dealers are adding on haha
Sorry about that!
@@CarExpertAus Hahah I was very confused
I wonder if sports cars will ever go back to the late 90's, early oughts era essence.
good car, but.........wait how long to get one???? 12 months??? or more???
can you easily disable the piped-in engine noise?
Yes it's very simple and easy to access you just need to pry a small piece off the side of the dash and you'll see the plug in for the speaker. Just disconnect it and fake sound is gone. Otherwise the dealer should be able to do it for you!
I think you got your USD conversion back-to-front
Yes…of course it’s different. It’s the car the first one probably should have been. Everything that needed to be better has been improved, and that haven’t tried to fix anything that didn’t need fixing. It’s a 9/10 car.
Well it's hard enough finding cheap RWD sport cars these days. It is rather surprising to find this gem still in production.
It’s a shame theres no real competition for this car as I’d love a modern Nissan Silvia/200SX or something similar from another brand. Everyone else has dropped the ball in this market.
The new Nissan 400z looks promising, but will cost a heap more than a 86/brz
No need to wait for Nissan - they did great with this 😊
I think your price in USD is wrong $40,190 is not $56k USD. Apart from that keep up the great work
I love the Toyobaru twins, but I prefer the look of the GR 86 more.... But still, an affordable, RWD coupe... *Initial D vibes*
Given your height, how does the space inside this compare to your Supra?
Old comment I know - but for me, I am more comfortable in this than the Supra. Both are obviously small - but I'm completely comfortable in the BRZ/GR86 but the Supra felt extremely claustrophobic to me. I'm 6'2".
Seat goes back a surprisingly decent amount (removing any use of the back seat but whatever). It also drops to the floor which helps a lot.
Am I the only one who prefers the look of the old car? Maybe the new one hasn't grown on me yet...
'Shares the platform' (different badge)
I find it a bit odd, it sounds closer to a rotary engine than a boxer like a wrx.
Fake sound. It won't sound too rumbly regardless though with a factory exhaust and equal headers
Subaru brz is platform as toyota gr 86 available in Australia
Amazing review, Paul. You are the best car reviewer that I have watched. My brother has age 2014 86, build quality has been alright, but some rattles have developed, but the top of the dashboard (just above the central air vents) has peeled up about 1cm, I am not sure if it is from the heat in Brisbane or what. He has also done a muffler delete on it so the exhaust rattles quite a bit. I try avoiding going in it as much as possible, as it is so loud. Not sure how he daily drives it, but he must think he’s cool in his p plate hairdressers car until my fathers v6 Hilux flies past him.
You flipped the AUD to USD currency conversion
It actually does a 5.9 0-100
I had previous model 86 owned for afew years, was fun to drive but gear box was rubbish very clunkyband build quality was terrible...had a vibration in doors and finally discovered it was the window switches rattling so took apart and put insulation tape and foam in to fix, think the new model looks far better.
I owned a 2018 BRZ Ts for 3 years. Build quality was good. Had a teething issue with brake noise which was never resolved. Later found out, after requesting from the dealer, that the whole brake package on the car was worth $12-14,000…I wonder why Subaru weren’t interested in fixing it…
Good fun car to drive, but no good long term as a daily due to size. Upgraded to the new DMAX Xterrain. Felt like I went from a go kart to a Mack truck.
Pretty poor there are no parking sensors on the new model considering previous models had the option.
I think you got your USD conversion backwards. These are about $32k USD.
170KW?? What the actual F?
A 2.4L naturally aspirated rear wheel drive pushing 170 stock is pretty impressive, especially the fact how light they are now. Power to weight ratio is very impressive, but my first V8 when I was young was a VN SS putting out 185kw for a 5L V8 probably half the weight of the BRZ.
Only reason my partner wants one but doesn’t want an 8 or turbo 4, and over the last two weeks since discussing them I’ve never noticed them ever on the roads til now I see them everywhere haha
This or the i30n, i cant decide.
@0:40 ... why us it showing the USD cost as $56,000?
def' a typo. its only like $30k USD over there. mistake from the reviewer
How long did you guys get your car once orderd ??
6 months
@@peterg2345 was yours manual ?
@@javierrosario6372 Indeed. It's not a proper sports car unless it has a proper gearbox. WR Blue. Haven't seen another one (of any colour) in Canberra yet; the dealer told me they'd sold a few before mine, so they're not in places I go.
Surely 40k AUD is not worth 56k USD in 2022 😂
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For safety, it's mostly related to the transmission, so if it's manual then nothing
That indicator light looks cheap and not well finish or designed however good looking car!
The old model looks better. It looked more purposeful. Not a fan of Japanese cars but this one looks desirable
Have to say, after driving it - it's one of the most enjoyable cars I've ever driven. Is actually great.
Very nice good looking car new car 2022 Subaru BRZ manual and 2022 Toyota 86 auto not good for very bad back how
Wow suddenly I thought it's alpine
Brilliant car. If you like this kind of sports car just buy one. One review i read said next best om the price scale is a GT4RS. So if you have AU$300K buy that. Otherwise the BRZ Mk2 is a piece of automotive genius.