It was blasphemous of Kobe Bryant to insert himself in the same conversation as MJ and Lebron .He is nowhere close to them statwise , and the only reason some fans still believe he is better than Lebron is his 5 rings , which are 2 in fact .
Me, you or Nick wright DO NOT have the authority to tell one of the greatest to ever do it Kobe Bryant when or what to say about the game of basketball. Nick is overstepping it.
Ry Guy only a white person will say something so dumb. If nick was a great thinker than why doesnt it translate to the court. Hes not in the nba. I wonder why.
Ry Guy yeah but he’s also talking about kobe who has one of the highest iq ever. Don’t be stupid asf! He has his own show that only he is capable of having
Lol kobe just does this to stay relevant!!!!!shaq left kobe cause kobe went 4-25 from the 3 point line in 04when they lost 4-1 to Detroit!!!!!kobe just trying to stay relevant and keep his name in the mix!!!!!!
wahahaha... that's what a typical hater would say. yet even those that had fierce battles with Kobe, have the highest praise for this man... even the daunted Shaq, my favorite big man of all time, has high praises for Kobe to this day.
Smh. People couldn't wait for Kobe to lose in the Finals just to take him OUT of the conversation of GOAT. Even though his two losses came to two of the top 10 Finals defenses of all time. But Lebron is 3-5 and remains in the convo because he is breaking MJs records by playing more games than MJ 🤔
j 314 what do u mean. LeBron lost to some of the greatest teams ever. San Antonio 3 times and Golden St 3 times. Oh yeah. He played Dallas. The same team who swept Kobe and beat OKC Durant. Be serious. Jordan never faced those kind of teams. EVER!!
Its not about how many rings you win, championship is a team effort. You personal accomplishment are put on a higher ground than ur team accomplishment when comparing the greats, thats why Robert Horry has 7 rings but isnt in the Goat conversation. Kobe won 5 rings but could only win 2 fmvp cuz he got drafted to a team where he was the second choice at best. Winning just 1 mvp also doesn't help his case, all the greats won multiple mvp's without making any excuses.
Leelee Newsome yeah Kobe got swept but LeBron got embrass by Mavs in the final with 5 top best player in that era LeBron couldn't get over 10 point vs Mavs Kobe wasn't in his prime vs Mavs Kobe prime about 2 come 2 the end LeBron was in his prime vs mavs that was the most disappointment final in history when LeBron lose 2 the Mavs when he was in his prime he should never choked a final all the superstar he got on his team he lose bc he didn't know how play without ball he needed ball in his hands Kobe and Jordan can play without the ball that's y they was successful in the final especially Jordan and they played in a system with Phil Jackson LeBron didn't want 2 do that when he played in Miami that's y he can't beat the top team in the league or barely beat them if he gets lucky when Kyrie and Ray Allen save his legacy by hitting the last shot 2 close the final
Wesj well all of these sports analysts have their preferences, but as far as I'm concerned nick gives kobe all the props that he deserves when discussing his position on the all time greats list.
The reason Kobe isnt in the conversation is he was a slightly worse overall player than mj meaning he was just doing what mj did scoring wise but other than that it wasn't on that level he is a hall of famer no doubt one of the best but Kobe never developed anything they hadn't seen before other than the scoring the basketball Jordan and LeBron were/are transcendent players because they changed the nba
dee boi LeBron haven't change the NBA no one has his body, but his skill set has been seen before. This debate will always go on but honestly no one knows
Yeah You go ahead and take him The NUMBERS say you Picked Wrong Game-tying/go-ahead field goals with under 10 seconds left in the postseason: Michael Jordan: 7/15 (47%) Kobe Bryant: 5/22 (23%) LeBron James: 12/23 (52%)
People forgot how good Kobe was. They never talk about his 08 playoff run in the Western Conference but he averaged 32-6-6 on 51% shooting (61 TS%) against 3 50 win teams, including the defending champ spurs who swept Lebron. It was just as good as Lebron's run this year considering he played better teams
Kobe will never get his rightful respect til he's old or dead. He gets constant hate & disrespect for someone that most every NBA player loves & respects.
I though Brian Windhorst was but until I heard Nick Wright. At least Brian has SOME, very little, but SOME, ability to be subjective. Nick is just flat out in love with Lebron and will tear any player down to make his point heard.
Kobe is not inserting himself, He is a part of the nba network. it's the media, that skipped over Kobe, after all; the NBA has done a terrible job promoting, & forcing L.J. down our throats, with the help of espn!
Nick is WAY OFF on nobody comparing KOBE to bron.a lot of people still think kobe is better including myself its just TV IS brainwashed/programmed not to praise kobe
Savon Sanders none of that got anything to do with LeBron can't blame LeBron for keeping his body in peek condition the convo is not what if Kobe stayed healthy.. LeBron statistically from a INDIVIDUAL STAND POINT is light years ahead of Kobe that's why he's not in the convo but top 15 of all time for sure
I like how CC said people would only have liked Kobe opinion if he gave in a way people like. That's true. I personally didn't take the tweet in how nick stated it, but the ignorance is quite funny to say the least. I guarantee if lebron would've said this Nick would be agreeing with him.
NewWorldRob, Lies. Mike constantly gave his opinion on the 2000s NBA. You forget him saying that Kobe stole all his moves? Or him saying that he'd beat LeBron by making him go left? Mike doesn't say anything now but ten years ago, he gave his opinion, often.
Joe 7374 I'm sure if social media was around when Jordan was around I guarantee you he be talking a lot more because you talk a lot after he retired this is a different era
Here is a good one : watch video with Kobe and his skils , and Lebron video with his skils . Basketball is not all about stats . It is about enjoing the game.
Damjan Mitevski "Basketball is not about stats" Has to be the dumbest hot take I have ever heard Yall really dig deep into the stupidity to cape for Kobe
regardless of what nick or CC or skip or shannon or stephan A or mike wilbon, or max, or any journalist thinks. I watched Kobe and LBJ both for the entirety of their career and I still take Kobe over lebron regardless of stats, or achievements, or what pundits say. I still take kobe over LBJ and no one can change my opinion on that except for LBJ.
I just said this..i just started watching this for diff perspective. I prefer Shannon Stephem or Chris B. This dude annoying af..how he get this show? What qualifications he have ..Cuz I onow he aint play??
Douglas Odhiambo agree! Nick is certified idiot. He criticize Kobe but loves LeBron who congratulate his younger self before even accomplishing something.
Kobe wouldn't have made it out of the second round with Lebron's team. Kobe wasn't a known facilitator and played hero ball his entire career essentially. Kobe could drop 81 points every night and still lose to a team like GSW, Houston, or Boston
That would be very interesting and fun to witness the finals would be fun too I'm very lucky to be alive during this time although I couldn't watch Jordan watching Kobe and LeBron has been awesome
Sorry, I had to comment. Let's be honest. Kobe won 5 titles. We must remember. After kobes last run of 3 straight finals appearances, LeBron took over and been in the finals ever since. Sorry but Kobe deserves to insert himself, people can act like they forgot. Kobe is not the GOAT but he's one of the greatest.
Louie No Nick wants to say..... Kobe you're not even the greatest Laker of all time. The Narrative was always Kobe vs Mj comparisons. It's shows Kobe insecurities to me of being left out because it's not the Mamba vs Mj goat talk which it never was. If it was then prob cause he polished his whole game after Mj even his walk for Christ sake. So he tweeted this shyt cause Now it's getting serious the LBJ vs Mj goat talk and it doesn't include Kobe and it never will........Nick!!
....Nick wright just compared Kobe to Brett Favre........im done. Im a friggin packer fan and im done.....Brett played in 2 super bowls lost one.....Kobe won 5 chips and lost 2 on what friggin planet does Brett Farve compare to Kobe??!?
Kobe wouldnt have won anything early if it wasn't for Shaq. Kobe won 2 of 3 finals in the NBA which is easy to win. Favre was greater than Kobe easily. Favre is easily a bigger deal than Kobe with his 40% shooting
Ivan Holman exactly my point. Indiana was the only semi team that was good for about 2 years. This 8 finals overrated because his record 3-5 so that should tell you something. If GS wins he about to be 3-6 but he m might can beat Houston because this will be their first time
Calling Nick the Geek! He only uses stats that supports his pointless opinion and ignores other stats that contradict his. What a joke! And again, he keeps on missing the easier and more important stats comparison: 6-0 > 5-2 > 3-5 (soon to be 3-6). This is not a knock against LBJ. He's the basketball king, while MJ is the basketball God and Kobe is the basketball virtuoso imho. This is knock against Nick the D*ck
Thats not hard to do. Jordan, Kareem, Hakeem, Wilt, Russell, Magic, Bird, Lebron, Shaq are all clearly better players then Kobe. Kobe is in the same level as Duncan and Oscar
5 rings, 81 points, greatest tough shot maker in the history of the nba. Hard Working individual with the results to back his game up....one word...SKILLZ............Hes in the conversation because of his Skills.
Justin Stephens for most his rings (3/5) wasn't the best player on the team, hated by teammates, tough shots made his clutch statistics horrific. Hard working, yes. Not nearly enough to qualify as the goat tho.
Whats a GOAT, tho? Lebrons a great player, Jordans a great player, and Kobes a great player...my favorite player is Paul Pierce, and like Paul Pierce says "Why call another man, king?" All three of them are great players and its crazy to me why people are bowing down like that. I like what Kobe says, "Just enjoy these talented and hard working individuals"
I like Kobe but his ego was his biggest problem. Go watch the 2004 finals. Despite Shaq shooting +60% Kobe was taking more shots (and bad shots at that) on around 30% shooting. The Lakers had 4 HoF players and if Kobe just passed to Shaq more they would have won the chip. People want to talk about mamba mentality and clutch, but sometimes being clutch is making the right plays like passing to a teammate who is hot.
Why do these so called analysts always discredit kobe when the players who played against him say that he is much better than lebron. Lebron is great but he definitely has not passed kobe yet.
lordofdstrings04 Id love to see the list of those players. Lebron is so much better than Kobe, better in every category but championships, but by that logic you better put Robert Horry among the greatest ever.
Players are always biased towards Kobe. It's just the nostalgia effect. Anyone older than 12 acknowledges 31K 8K and 8K put LeBron above Kobe just by that record alone... Now , let's talk about being all-time playoffs scoring and steals leader, 7th in rebounds, 3rd in assists. 4 Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters (versus only 1 by Kobe...) , 3rd all-time in 3 pointers, always Finals MVP (unlike Kobe...) . I mean... Isn't that enough
lordofdstrings04 if they only use the ring argument than there comment is not valid. If they use the clutch argument then there comment is false. Theres no logical way to explain kobe being better than lebron at THE GAME OF BASKETBALL(the entire game not 1 or 2 aspects)
Nick doesn't want to admit that Kobe is basically talking about people like him. Far too often fans try to tear down other all-time greats to elevate their guy. And no one is more guilty of this than Nick Wright.
All the players pick Kobe over LeBron. Smh Nick Wright can say that Kobe is not even close to LeBron and MJ wth? They are all equally great depending on how you view it
Where did nick Wright come from? Like, seriously, before this show. Because all of a sudden he acts like his opinion is bond when I NEVER heard of this dude before he joined this show. SAS, Skip, Max, Shannon, Colin, I've heard of ALL of these people prior to their current shows and options. Who is Nick Wright and why does his opinion matter?
Kobe's right. No point debating something that can't be truly defined. If Bron fans wanna say he's the best, then that's their prerogative. No sweat of anybody else's back.
Kobe deserves to be in the conversation. We saw Kobe do the same thing Bron is doing two times in a row, in a tougher conference against better teams and won both times. LeBron is the man but I would take 5-2 in the finals over 3-5 any day, I agree with Kobe we should just enjoy this greatness
Does any or everyone not see the irony here. Nick Wright like CC so eloquently alludes to. Has made his career off of having this MJ vs LBJ debate. So now when Kobe chimes in with a fair observation. Captain save a swoops in to make a topic & more or less chastise an actual NBA legend in the process. Regardless of your opinion, there are many & its often generational. Jordan is great no denying that. Kobe is great. LBJ is great. But their work speaks for them not some selfappointed LBJ historian in Nick Wright. It doesn't mean a thing without those rings! Just enjoy greatness when its in your pressence. Celebrate it. All 3 were truly remarkable in their own way. In their own time!
Kobe played better teams in first and second round then the teams lebron has played in east finals!!no comparison the level of competition was way harder and he never had a kyrie or wade to lean on during second title runs!!pau gasol never took over games the way kyrie and wade have!!shannon brown,sasha vuciec,luke walton,slava medvadenko,adam morrison these guys where playing big minutes on kobe teams they were never as stacked as bron teams have been past 7 years!!
Chris Cater facial expression is priceless. LeBron taking the Cavs to the finals blew up all of his predictions. Pacers, Raptures, and Boston.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂now he's pouting. 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤗
MJ > Kobe > LeRigged.....6 is more than 5 and 5 is more than 3. Any true ballers who play the game know that it's all about the rings. when we spit game on the court, that was the case during my generation. I think the new generation of players have forgotten or ignored that rule of rings/ships.
Deondre Bell Wen comparing them 3, of course I can and it is justified. Now if you want to include the 11, then LePushoff doesn’t even come close. Jordan is the GOAT until someone else proves me wrong. Till then 6-0 finals record is the greatest compared to LeRigged. As a matter of fact, I don’t even want to count the 2 rings he got in Miami. He joined a prime Wade and Bosh. Jordan had SP and some good supporting cast who knew there role. Kobe, well.... he had Shaq but they both needed each other to win during that era. LeCry jumped ship because he couldn’t win!!!! The guy is a freak of nature, but not an all time great no way no how. I’ll put him too 5 on my list if he wins this year. Till then he’s top10 at best. I don’t do stats, I do rings. And please don’t speak if Horry and all those players who are not on MJ, Kobe, and LeCrys level.
Deondre Bell greatest all of time is a matter of smile.. who cant deny Muhammad Ali as the greatest athlete of all time? because he had a greatest smile of all time with MJ and kobe! lebron?? not even close man
thats your opinion, not written as true. kobe is still better than lebron to me. if we going off stats lebron is probably the best. but if we doing it that way then westbrook is the greatest of all time. Now thats when lebron fans tell me that westbrook didnt lead his team to a championship. So winning is important. We play to win the game and kobe was a winner when all said and done.
Rings are won by teams...not individuals. Who has had the greatest all around impact for their team in the nba? Looking at the teamates around each of the greats.... Its Lebron.
Nick right need to stop I hear people on TV talk all the time why are we comparing LeBron to Jordan we should be comparing him to Kobe because Kobe got five rings and Kobe is also an all-time great player. And back in the day people was saying Kobe is the greatest of all time over Jordan a lot of people said that
I find it interesting that people hold rings as the be all end all only when it suits their argument. People say MJ is better than Lebron because he has more championships. Bill Russell has more championships, but those same people overlook that fact. Kareem has six, has comparable stats to MJ and changed the way basketball is played. He isn't in the conversation.
That doesn't invalidate what he did. He can't and shouldn't be held accountable for the era he played in. Did he dominate his era? Did he win in his era? We can poke holes in everybody's resume. A win is a win.
@@kayujay and so did jorbald. The average player in the jorbald era wouldn't stand a chance against the average nba player today. 30 years of evolution is no joke and if you can't see rhat you have jorbald meat down ya throat
Nick wright just be saying anything.... like lebron said its people who has never played bball at a high level giving they opinion about who is the best...and like kobe said just enjoy who has played great and is playing Great..
The real reason why Kobe isn’t talked about in the Goat conversation is because MJ and LeBron have bigger impacts on the game and they both have different playing styles. When you typically hear MJ vs Kobe ppl say Kobe is a Walmart MJ or generic version of MJ and Kobe copies MJ playing style.
Rickey Lynoard Smith I never said he was. I said when I hear ppl compare MJ to Kobe that’s what they typically say. I’m a Kobe fan I have the upmost respect for him.
TheLavaris Kobe is the closest in playing style because Kobe molded his game around Jordans. Kobe's game LOOKS the most like Jordans. That doesn't mean he is top 5. Bird, Magic, Lebron, Kareem, WIlt, Hakeem, Russell Shaq were all clearly better players then Kobe
Jordan 6-0 beating EVERY team in EACH conference..Lebron would still only have 1 title if he played in west..Cant even be sure about that "1" either..Painful facts
Hmmm remember that Magic team that beat Lebron like bongos... Yea Kobe smashed them in the finals. Hmmm... Remember that Boston Celtic super team that ran Bron outta Cleveland and forcer him to... Ahem... "Learn to win? " Kobe loss to them but two years later STILL IN A LAKER JERSEY came back and took what was his! Enough said
Kobe had a better team...please don’t let me pull up both individual numbers for the elimination game. Lebron OUT PERFORMED kobe in all elimination games vs the Boston big 3. That’s for 08 ECF 08 finals and 2010 FINALS.
Cameron Kobe is better than lebron. He beat better teams, won more, Didn't need superteams to do it, and didn't not control the offense like lebron because he played in the triangle offense. Go home
Cameron Magic and Kareem both verbally, on video, declared Kobe Bryant as the best Laker ever (Magic even did so during the Finals MVP presentation during the last Lakers run). But sure, let’s believe the guy who posted a comment on TH-cam rather than two legends who actually played the game *and* who they themselves who are being compared to Kobe.
I think Kobe is better than LeBron James 🤷♂️ I also think Kobe has earned the right to enter into any basketball conversation he wants to 🤷♂️ Fight me
Usually give CC the kind of day but, he's completely ignoring Nick. Nicks point seems to allude to Kobe inserting himself into LeBrons moment of greatness last night. LBJ carried that team to the finals which is a great feat, let's enjoy that, but he inserted himself which was unnecessary because we know how good Kobe was. I think that's what Nick was trying to say, Kobe can have his opinion just don't voice it on a night where we should be appriciating LeBron. Wilt wouldn't of tweeted #enjoymy100 after Kobe's 81 point game, I know Wilt passed away before that time but it's similar to that in my opinions
Charles805 Mamba could said which is a better way to score five feet from the basket or three point line so his shot was less difficult then kobe plus he is a guard the average high of most NBA guard but Wilt was like the Jolly Green Giant among mens
I really hate the times we are living in when every and any schmuck with a narrative opinion and a platform can make a mass of people believe anything. Lebron is more than overratted, he represent what this world is becoming and has been in the last 5 to 6 years, which is brain dead sheeps. The media push this narrative of him being the GOAT but he is no where near. Everyone ignores all his short comings without any questions and ignore all the greats that came before him. How did someone that has the all-time most playoffs misses, all-time playoffs turnovers, lost 5 nba finals, abandon his team twice and devalues all of his teammates become in the conversation of actually being the GREATEST OFF ALL TIMES. That is a huge title, to be called the GOAT, but Lebron fans and the media ignores all the true greats that came before him to annoit him. This is brainwash at its best.
Y’all are interpreting it wrong. He is saying no matter who the player in question is, appreciate his impact he left! “My5” because Kobe tweeted it. If KG tweeted it and said “My1” he is meaning appreciate everyone’s impact on the game and not compare them, he wouldn’t be saying he is in the conversation with LBJ and Jordan
David K people have been comparing Kobe to Jordan since 1996. When LeBron won his first two MVPs people still said Kobe was the best player in the league including LeBron James himself
Rickey Lynoard Smith Game-tying/go-ahead field goals with under 10 seconds left in the postseason: Michael Jordan: 7/15 (47%) Kobe Bryant: 5/22 (23%) LeBron James: 12/23 (52%) No comparison
Kobe will never be in the GOAT debate. But, I don't think he needs to be hated on for the hashtag. Let him have it. LeBron may end up with less rings, but he's legacy is secure - and he has had to carry far less talented teams than Kobe.
Lies, what you meant to say was LeBron was carried by D Wade Bosh Ray Allen and Kyrie Irving in the finals. We ALL saw how Kyrie took over in the last win. Bron was nowhere to be seen.
MJ vs LeBron This is a silly debate. Clearly Michael is better. It's not even a close one. But let's go to the facts. Updated after Lebrons 14th season. Michael Jordan has •3 more rings •3 more final mvps •1 more DPOY •1 more season MVP •9 more scoring titles •3 more steals leader •3 more all defensive team selections •4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer lol. •800 more steals •Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10) •Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals Lebron did it twice •6/6 (never allowed a game 7) •Lebron had much more help •Jordan never had a teammate averaged more than 22 points in the finals.. Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26 •MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs •MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games.. All of this accomplished in 13 seasons Lebron is in his 14th season still chasing the "ghost that played in Chicago" •Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg. (86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics. •Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line. •in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this. •the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%. •MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3% •MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3. •MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9% •MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year.. Seriously this list can keep going. This isn't even a debate. Mj is the GOAT. Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls: -10 STRAIGHT scoring titles, -Won Defensive Player of the Year, -9 times all defensive team, -9time All NBA, -5 league MVPs -6 finals MVPs LBJ missed the playoffs completely in his first 2 years. Jordan didnt with scrubs on his squad. Jordan played 82 games 9 times in his career once at 40. LBJ only played 82 games once. In 89 Jordan won the scoring title all star MVP slam dunk title regular season MVP and Defensive Player of The year something LBJ has never done. Jordan also averaged 41 pts a game for an entire Finals shootimg 50% and won. Something else LBJ never did. All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career... And before you criticize me for copy and pasting just know that it doesn’t matter if it’s copied or not, truth is truth. Check Mate.
Wrong. MJ’s peak was higher as max kellerman always brings up. The analytics are there for you too see. The numbers accolades. It’s all there. If you choose to ignore it that’s on you. Lebron has not eclipsed anything MJ has done.
Kobe isn't better than Lebron, he's no where near Lebron. Lebron dominated Kobe through out Kobe's career, you can see highlights here on TH-cam. There is nothing to talk about. The issue here is the rings factor, that clouds the actual talent and domination of Lebron.
Warriors fan here; i grew up watching Jordan and Kobe. I honestly have to say that Lebron is better then both of them. Jordan and Kobe were pure scorers but Lebron does more. Jordan didn't have to face a team like the Warriors and Rockets.
TrolandoTV just imagine if lebron had to go against the Detroit pistons with Ben big shot and rip and the Big 3 celtics in there prime for multiple years he would not be making all these trips to the finals facts
TrolandoTV THE BULLS of 1991 to 1998 led by MJ and Pippen were better than THE ROCKETS of now LED by Harden and CP3. So it is relevant. Your opinion is worth garbage to me so why would I try again?
No media ...comparing MJ Labron...Laughable....Skill Set no NBA players say Labron better than MJ or Kobe not even close..More Media Engineering...everyone's Not Sheep..damm! CC want to spit the Truth but the contract Real...
What did you think about Kobe’s tweet?
First Things First: Cris Carter and Nick Wright can we stop comparing Jordan Kobe and LeBron? 3 completely different players in my opinion.
First Things First: Cris Carter and Nick Wright what is Nick Wright on? Bring in Jimmy Jackson
If anything you can compare LeBron to Bird
It was blasphemous of Kobe Bryant to insert himself in the same conversation as MJ and Lebron .He is nowhere close to them statwise , and the only reason some fans still believe he is better than Lebron is his 5 rings , which are 2 in fact .
First Things First: Cris Carter and Nick Wright and Jordan should be compared to Kareem not lbj.
Me, you or Nick wright DO NOT have the authority to tell one of the greatest to ever do it Kobe Bryant when or what to say about the game of basketball. Nick is overstepping it.
Ry Guy only a white person will say something so dumb. If nick was a great thinker than why doesnt it translate to the court. Hes not in the nba. I wonder why.
Ry Guy yeah but he’s also talking about kobe who has one of the highest iq ever. Don’t be stupid asf! He has his own show that only he is capable of having
Ry Guy have a higher IQ than Kobe? You have no right to talk NBA ever again for the rest of your life... The D-League is your home...
Lol kobe just does this to stay relevant!!!!!shaq left kobe cause kobe went 4-25 from the 3 point line in 04when they lost 4-1 to Detroit!!!!!kobe just trying to stay relevant and keep his name in the mix!!!!!!
wahahaha... that's what a typical hater would say. yet even those that had fierce battles with Kobe, have the highest praise for this man... even the daunted Shaq, my favorite big man of all time, has high praises for Kobe to this day.
i love nick wright defending his lover, everyone should find them selves someone who loves them like nick loves lebron
you defend your man nick
Lol!
Smh. People couldn't wait for Kobe to lose in the Finals just to take him OUT of the conversation of GOAT. Even though his two losses came to two of the top 10 Finals defenses of all time. But Lebron is 3-5 and remains in the convo because he is breaking MJs records by playing more games than MJ 🤔
j 314 what do u mean. LeBron lost to some of the greatest teams ever. San Antonio 3 times and Golden St 3 times. Oh yeah. He played Dallas. The same team who swept Kobe and beat OKC Durant. Be serious. Jordan never faced those kind of teams. EVER!!
Its not about how many rings you win, championship is a team effort. You personal accomplishment are put on a higher ground than ur team accomplishment when comparing the greats, thats why Robert Horry has 7 rings but isnt in the Goat conversation. Kobe won 5 rings but could only win 2 fmvp cuz he got drafted to a team where he was the second choice at best. Winning just 1 mvp also doesn't help his case, all the greats won multiple mvp's without making any excuses.
Ry Guy lol FRS , only Kobe fans put him in the GOAT convo
Savon Sanders Shaq won an MVP and FMVP with Kobe on the team.
Leelee Newsome yeah Kobe got swept but LeBron got embrass by Mavs in the final with 5 top best player in that era LeBron couldn't get over 10 point vs Mavs Kobe wasn't in his prime vs Mavs Kobe prime about 2 come 2 the end LeBron was in his prime vs mavs that was the most disappointment final in history when LeBron lose 2 the Mavs when he was in his prime he should never choked a final all the superstar he got on his team he lose bc he didn't know how play without ball he needed ball in his hands Kobe and Jordan can play without the ball that's y they was successful in the final especially Jordan and they played in a system with Phil Jackson LeBron didn't want 2 do that when he played in Miami that's y he can't beat the top team in the league or barely beat them if he gets lucky when Kyrie and Ray Allen save his legacy by hitting the last shot 2 close the final
Y’all disrespect Kobe way too much
Derek Matthews agreed my guy!
Like bro Kobe was dominating the WEST at will. Nobody wanted to see Kobe in the regular season let alone playoffs!
He disrespects himself already with his mediocre 45% career FG 🐒 Not a GOAT
Esteban Aguayo Kobe > lebron
Derek Matthews kobe NEVER won a ring WITHOUT the best frontline in basketball Faxxx
Kobe beat 24 50+ win teams in playoff
Jordan beat 20
Lebron beat 10
Kobe still can be in the conversation
Imagine if kobe played east from 99 to 2013
Are we gonna act like nick wright doesn’t hate Kobe
Wesj didn't know saying kobe isn't as good as LeBron or Jordan is hating.. I must be a hater
nikita baryshnikov I’m not saying that’s why but every time a Kobe topic comes up he takes a opportunity to bash him even when they retired his number
Wesj well all of these sports analysts have their preferences, but as far as I'm concerned nick gives kobe all the props that he deserves when discussing his position on the all time greats list.
nikita baryshnikov I think it’s obvious he has a bias against Kobe I also think Lebron is better
People who played in the NBA think that Kobe is better than LeBron. Respect the Mamba.
Dez Hamp why would dwade hate Lebron and he called Kobe better than Lebron
Chris Offisong nah not what I hear most players and coaches say lebron... not sure what you’re watchin
Vidal Hodges thats pure fantasy...nva players are split in them not one way or the other...some ppl like sc0rers...some like passers
kobe is great and has earned the right to insert himself in that conversation. next
The reason Kobe isnt in the conversation is he was a slightly worse overall player than mj meaning he was just doing what mj did scoring wise but other than that it wasn't on that level he is a hall of famer no doubt one of the best but Kobe never developed anything they hadn't seen before other than the scoring the basketball Jordan and LeBron were/are transcendent players because they changed the nba
dee boi LeBron haven't change the NBA no one has his body, but his skill set has been seen before. This debate will always go on but honestly no one knows
Jeremiah Jackson by changed I mean how free players have been in there movement from team to team
ProducedByFieri Kemba Walker is better than Kobe
Not really. Jordan and Kobe were basically the same player except Jordan was CLEARLY a much better player. Jordan has EVERYTHING on Kobe.
The Kobe disrespect has to stop. He deserves to be up there just as much as LeBron and Jordan do.
Nope. Kobe is not top 5.
iEKNOWS Kobe great but not a top 5
I am a long time 76ers fan. I am lucky enough to have seen Jordan, Kobe, and Lebron. If I had to win a game with one shot. I am taking Kobe period.
That's why your team wont win anything
You can have him. I'm taking MJ.
So we're playing 1 on 1 for an NBA title. I would put a prime Jordan up against a prime Kobe any day.
Yeah You go ahead and take him The NUMBERS say you Picked Wrong
Game-tying/go-ahead field goals with under 10 seconds left in the postseason:
Michael Jordan: 7/15 (47%)
Kobe Bryant: 5/22 (23%)
LeBron James: 12/23 (52%)
mcfowlerman I’m taking the player that has the more clutch shots then Kobe and mj.. oh yeah, that’s lebron 💪🏼
People forgot how good Kobe was. They never talk about his 08 playoff run in the Western Conference but he averaged 32-6-6 on 51% shooting (61 TS%) against 3 50 win teams, including the defending champ spurs who swept Lebron. It was just as good as Lebron's run this year considering he played better teams
We have the media to thank for that. "We" are prisoners of the moment.
Kobe stats hurt him so bad in this argument I wish he retired in 2013 and not embarrassed himself for 3 more seasons
The media has never liked Kobe lol. Players and fans revere Kobe.. the media does not.
Star Thats not true really.
Kobe will never get his rightful respect til he's old or dead. He gets constant hate & disrespect for someone that most every NBA player loves & respects.
PETITION FOR NICK WRIGHT TO RETIRE.
SIGN BY LIKING.
get this idiot outta here
I signed the counter one by disliking. How do you like them apples?
I though Brian Windhorst was but until I heard Nick Wright. At least Brian has SOME, very little, but SOME, ability to be subjective. Nick is just flat out in love with Lebron and will tear any player down to make his point heard.
How about a petition to get this idiot fired?
Nick always hating..all Kobe was saying is that i won 5..Jordan won 6..its Lebron time
Kobe is not inserting himself, He is a part of the nba network.
it's the media, that skipped over Kobe, after all; the NBA has done a terrible job promoting, & forcing L.J. down our throats, with the help of espn!
Nick is WAY OFF on nobody comparing KOBE to bron.a lot of people still think kobe is better including myself its just TV IS brainwashed/programmed not to praise kobe
KObe actually gets more praise in the media then he deserves. The media LOVES Kobe! Kobe is great, but he is around the 15-9 spot on best player ever
slimstretch56 SPOT ON!
Savon Sanders none of that got anything to do with LeBron can't blame LeBron for keeping his body in peek condition the convo is not what if Kobe stayed healthy.. LeBron statistically from a INDIVIDUAL STAND POINT is light years ahead of Kobe that's why he's not in the convo but top 15 of all time for sure
facts
Kobe better career than Lebron. But we will see come end of LBJ's career. Kobe>Lebron today. ask me again in 6 years
I like how CC said people would only have liked Kobe opinion if he gave in a way people like. That's true. I personally didn't take the tweet in how nick stated it, but the ignorance is quite funny to say the least. I guarantee if lebron would've said this Nick would be agreeing with him.
lebron dont need to insert him self in this conversation or seek spotlight he already there stupid!
Gasha Beatz lebron said he was chasing Michael
I also sense some hostility lol
somebody explain to me how theres a huge gap between jordan/lebron and kobe? ill wait............
I’m late to this video but nick right is buggin even tho I’m one of those guys who think bron is better than Kobe but it’s definitely a debate
@@Pink50sbluesinnit thats craaaaazyyyyy
@@Pink50sbluesinnit it's not a debate lol. Kobe is not top 5 meanwhile Bron is undisputed top 2 and keeps breaking records at 37
He just hate Kobe and couldn’t come up with a legitimate argument why Kobe tweet was wrong lol.
DJMaye While retired Mike never inserted himself in the middle of kobes reign
NewWorldRob, Lies. Mike constantly gave his opinion on the 2000s NBA. You forget him saying that Kobe stole all his moves? Or him saying that he'd beat LeBron by making him go left? Mike doesn't say anything now but ten years ago, he gave his opinion, often.
1994 Nowhere near the way Kobe is doing tho. Apologist
Nick Wright is an idiot
Joe 7374 I'm sure if social media was around when Jordan was around I guarantee you he be talking a lot more because you talk a lot after he retired this is a different era
Here is a good one :
watch video with Kobe and his skils , and Lebron video with his skils .
Basketball is not all about stats .
It is about enjoing the game.
Damjan Mitevski "Basketball is not about stats" Has to be the dumbest hot take I have ever heard
Yall really dig deep into the stupidity to cape for Kobe
Sam I Am I'am not comparing them just bouth players are great in oun way and in their era.
regardless of what nick or CC or skip or shannon or stephan A or mike wilbon, or max, or any journalist thinks. I watched Kobe and LBJ both for the entirety of their career and I still take Kobe over lebron regardless of stats, or achievements, or what pundits say. I still take kobe over LBJ and no one can change my opinion on that except for LBJ.
Paul Finebaum....I Totally Agree with U; people compare LBJ to MJ as if KB didn't leave it all on the court
Be careful bro. LBJ stans dont beleive in people having their own opinion. I agree with you btw
Mamba all day the eyes don't lie
A lot of people would take him until they look at their records and stats against each other.
Why?
Nick is always talking in circles.
Word
Vegeta 1027 that's the liberal sports media for you. Smh
I just said this..i just started watching this for diff perspective. I prefer Shannon Stephem or Chris B. This dude annoying af..how he get this show? What qualifications he have ..Cuz I onow he aint play??
Exactly. This argument was even bad by his own standards.
u can see chris carter rolling his eyes lol
Nick, what are you talking about? People compare Kobe Lebron and Jordan all the time. Do you live under a rock or something?
Nah. I don't think kobe can be debated against Kenton and Jordan anymore.
Kobe is literally just a little Jordan 😂
People don’t compare Kobe and LeBron
the only people that compares Kobe with LeBron and MJ are kobe fans and 90% of them rn don't even consider talking about it anymore.
Everyone who's about winning talks Kobe vs Jordan. Including Jordan himself...lol. I think LeBron stans are probably an average age of 15 years old.
Last time I ever listen to Nick Wright.
Douglas Odhiambo agree! Nick is certified idiot. He criticize Kobe but loves LeBron who congratulate his younger self before even accomplishing something.
Douglas Odhiambo Very last time!!! The kobe disrespect was waaaay too much for da kid!
Imagine Kobe in this weak Eastern conference
Kobe wouldn't have made it out of the second round with Lebron's team. Kobe wasn't a known facilitator and played hero ball his entire career essentially. Kobe could drop 81 points every night and still lose to a team like GSW, Houston, or Boston
Kobe could pass the ball like no man's business if he wanted to
8 championships
Tabishe Arshad Seven Rings easy
That would be very interesting and fun to witness the finals would be fun too I'm very lucky to be alive during this time although I couldn't watch Jordan watching Kobe and LeBron has been awesome
Sorry, I had to comment. Let's be honest. Kobe won 5 titles. We must remember. After kobes last run of 3 straight finals appearances, LeBron took over and been in the finals ever since. Sorry but Kobe deserves to insert himself, people can act like they forgot. Kobe is not the GOAT but he's one of the greatest.
Yes but he wasn't the best player on his team
Nick Wright just doesn’t get it 🤦♂️
Louie yeah 😂
Louie no he doesn’t
He just wanted an excuse to say that Kobe isn't even close to LeBron yet again.
🤦🏿♂️ extra slow
Louie No Nick wants to say..... Kobe you're not even the greatest Laker of all time. The Narrative was always Kobe vs Mj comparisons. It's shows Kobe insecurities to me of being left out because it's not the Mamba vs Mj goat talk which it never was. If it was then prob cause he polished his whole game after Mj even his walk for Christ sake. So he tweeted this shyt cause Now it's getting serious the LBJ vs Mj goat talk and it doesn't include Kobe and it never will........Nick!!
CC is totally right
I’ll take Kobe any day
Nick got owned today lol
....Nick wright just compared Kobe to Brett Favre........im done. Im a friggin packer fan and im done.....Brett played in 2 super bowls lost one.....Kobe won 5 chips and lost 2 on what friggin planet does Brett Farve compare to Kobe??!?
Kito Fortune thank you! Nick trippin on that comparison
Kobe wouldnt have won anything early if it wasn't for Shaq. Kobe won 2 of 3 finals in the NBA which is easy to win. Favre was greater than Kobe easily. Favre is easily a bigger deal than Kobe with his 40% shooting
Name the really good eastern conference teams during this 8 year stretch. For sure this wouldn't have happened in the west.
Ivan Holman exactly my point. Indiana was the only semi team that was good for about 2 years. This 8 finals overrated because his record 3-5 so that should tell you something. If GS wins he about to be 3-6 but he m might can beat Houston because this will be their first time
Orlando magic ..Defeated the Cavs ha
Irvin Lopez that was 09 i believe. Since 10 who has it been
Kangman02 yeah you’re right that was before 2010.. if anything the best team Lebron has faced in the east might be those pacers teams with PG ...
Irvin Lopez and the Pacers were just a good not great team
lebron only beat a 50+ win teams in the playoffs 10x Mike 21 kobe 24 take that
Calling Nick the Geek! He only uses stats that supports his pointless opinion and ignores other stats that contradict his. What a joke! And again, he keeps on missing the easier and more important stats comparison: 6-0 > 5-2 > 3-5 (soon to be 3-6). This is not a knock against LBJ. He's the basketball king, while MJ is the basketball God and Kobe is the basketball virtuoso imho. This is knock against Nick the D*ck
P H facts
Nick Wright can’t even name 7 players better than Kobe
actually he can and he has. Look up Chris Broussard and many other sports analysts top 10. They all dont have Kobe anywhere near top 5
MrInzombia actually Chris on undisputed put Kobe 7th all time on his top 10 list
Dondre Wilson yeah and i think lebron was number 2 so kobe aint even close
Thats not hard to do. Jordan, Kareem, Hakeem, Wilt, Russell, Magic, Bird, Lebron, Shaq are all clearly better players then Kobe. Kobe is in the same level as Duncan and Oscar
ben1ben2ben1 Shaq was swept 5 times before kobe helped him out so Shaq is not better than Kobe
Kobe is in there.....Kobe is in that convo..Nick crazy
Justin Stephens how on earth is he in the conversation?
5 rings, 81 points, greatest tough shot maker in the history of the nba. Hard Working individual with the results to back his game up....one word...SKILLZ............Hes in the conversation because of his Skills.
Justin Stephens for most his rings (3/5) wasn't the best player on the team, hated by teammates, tough shots made his clutch statistics horrific. Hard working, yes. Not nearly enough to qualify as the goat tho.
Justin Stephens also 81 points and SKILLZ are amazing records but again not what makes you goat.
Whats a GOAT, tho? Lebrons a great player, Jordans a great player, and Kobes a great player...my favorite player is Paul Pierce, and like Paul Pierce says "Why call another man, king?" All three of them are great players and its crazy to me why people are bowing down like that. I like what Kobe says, "Just enjoy these talented and hard working individuals"
The Disrespect To Kobe is Crazyy Like The Man Was Great , If You Say Lebron Better Den You Crazyyy
kobe has never ever ever ever ever been on lebron’s level. ever
I like Kobe but his ego was his biggest problem. Go watch the 2004 finals. Despite Shaq shooting +60% Kobe was taking more shots (and bad shots at that) on around 30% shooting. The Lakers had 4 HoF players and if Kobe just passed to Shaq more they would have won the chip. People want to talk about mamba mentality and clutch, but sometimes being clutch is making the right plays like passing to a teammate who is hot.
He dnt like kobe...u can see chris gettin irritated..lol
Why do these so called analysts always discredit kobe when the players who played against him say that he is much better than lebron. Lebron is great but he definitely has not passed kobe yet.
lordofdstrings04 Id love to see the list of those players. Lebron is so much better than Kobe, better in every category but championships, but by that logic you better put Robert Horry among the greatest ever.
lebron is better in every stat. EVERY STAT... its not even close and hasnt been close for years. do your homework. Numbers exist for a reason.
Dustin Draper no hes not better, I bet u are using stats for your argument. But at the same time y0u probably call players like Westbrook stat padders
Players are always biased towards Kobe. It's just the nostalgia effect. Anyone older than 12 acknowledges 31K 8K and 8K put LeBron above Kobe just by that record alone... Now , let's talk about being all-time playoffs scoring and steals leader, 7th in rebounds, 3rd in assists. 4 Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters (versus only 1 by Kobe...) , 3rd all-time in 3 pointers, always Finals MVP (unlike Kobe...) . I mean... Isn't that enough
lordofdstrings04 if they only use the ring argument than there comment is not valid. If they use the clutch argument then there comment is false. Theres no logical way to explain kobe being better than lebron at THE GAME OF BASKETBALL(the entire game not 1 or 2 aspects)
Nick doesn't want to admit that Kobe is basically talking about people like him. Far too often fans try to tear down other all-time greats to elevate their guy. And no one is more guilty of this than Nick Wright.
All the players pick Kobe over LeBron. Smh Nick Wright can say that Kobe is not even close to LeBron and MJ wth? They are all equally great depending on how you view it
KOBE HAS 5 RINGS IN THE WEST.... GREATER THAN LEBUM.
biggiejackson 3 finals MVPs lebron James 2 Kobe finals mvps
Jordan ,Kobe ,LeBron
Kobe isn't top 5 material. Jordan and LeBron are both top 2 material.
Where did nick Wright come from? Like, seriously, before this show. Because all of a sudden he acts like his opinion is bond when I NEVER heard of this dude before he joined this show. SAS, Skip, Max, Shannon, Colin, I've heard of ALL of these people prior to their current shows and options. Who is Nick Wright and why does his opinion matter?
Kobe's right. No point debating something that can't be truly defined. If Bron fans wanna say he's the best, then that's their prerogative. No sweat of anybody else's back.
Kobe deserves to be in the conversation. We saw Kobe do the same thing Bron is doing two times in a row, in a tougher conference against better teams and won both times. LeBron is the man but I would take 5-2 in the finals over 3-5 any day, I agree with Kobe we should just enjoy this greatness
Does any or everyone not see the irony here. Nick Wright like CC so eloquently alludes to. Has made his career off of having this MJ vs LBJ debate. So now when Kobe chimes in with a fair observation. Captain save a swoops in to make a topic & more or less chastise an actual NBA legend in the process. Regardless of your opinion, there are many & its often generational. Jordan is great no denying that. Kobe is great. LBJ is great. But their work speaks for them not some selfappointed LBJ historian in Nick Wright. It doesn't mean a thing without those rings! Just enjoy greatness when its in your pressence. Celebrate it. All 3 were truly remarkable in their own way. In their own time!
Kobe played better teams in first and second round then the teams lebron has played in east finals!!no comparison the level of competition was way harder and he never had a kyrie or wade to lean on during second title runs!!pau gasol never took over games the way kyrie and wade have!!shannon brown,sasha vuciec,luke walton,slava medvadenko,adam morrison these guys where playing big minutes on kobe teams they were never as stacked as bron teams have been past 7 years!!
If Cleveland and Boston was playing in the West they wouldn't get out of the second round. LMAO!
....Boi....Nick.....hop off LeBron sack....seriously.....its MJ, Kobe, then LeBron in that order.
FACTS!
Tony Jones nah
Chris Cater facial expression is priceless. LeBron taking the Cavs to the finals blew up all of his predictions. Pacers, Raptures, and Boston.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂now he's pouting. 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤗
lol
Nick is being very disrespectful give me Kobe over anybody
Nick take this L in this debate
MJ > Kobe > LeRigged.....6 is more than 5 and 5 is more than 3. Any true ballers who play the game know that it's all about the rings. when we spit game on the court, that was the case during my generation. I think the new generation of players have forgotten or ignored that rule of rings/ships.
jakskelington0745. 11 rings is more the. 5 ,4,3 you cant use rings be bill Russell has alot rings then both all three of them
Deondre Bell Wen comparing them 3, of course I can and it is justified. Now if you want to include the 11, then LePushoff doesn’t even come close. Jordan is the GOAT until someone else proves me wrong. Till then 6-0 finals record is the greatest compared to LeRigged. As a matter of fact, I don’t even want to count the 2 rings he got in Miami. He joined a prime Wade and Bosh. Jordan had SP and some good supporting cast who knew there role. Kobe, well.... he had Shaq but they both needed each other to win during that era. LeCry jumped ship because he couldn’t win!!!! The guy is a freak of nature, but not an all time great no way no how. I’ll put him too 5 on my list if he wins this year. Till then he’s top10 at best. I don’t do stats, I do rings. And please don’t speak if Horry and all those players who are not on MJ, Kobe, and LeCrys level.
Deondre Bell greatest all of time is a matter of smile.. who cant deny Muhammad Ali as the greatest athlete of all time? because he had a greatest smile of all time with MJ and kobe! lebron?? not even close man
thats your opinion, not written as true. kobe is still better than lebron to me. if we going off stats lebron is probably the best. but if we doing it that way then westbrook is the greatest of all time. Now thats when lebron fans tell me that westbrook didnt lead his team to a championship. So winning is important. We play to win the game and kobe was a winner when all said and done.
Rings are won by teams...not individuals. Who has had the greatest all around impact for their team in the nba?
Looking at the teamates around each of the greats.... Its Lebron.
Kobe is still better than LeBron.
💯
WadeWilson.. Pure scorer yes all around not even close
I'm still trying to find video of a rookie throwing it down on Kobe. That alone makes your comment 💯% TRUTH.
C S so Jordan was crossed by a rookie AI loll
Uhh thats debatable
I can't believe that he said Kobe cannot touch LeBron
Nick right need to stop I hear people on TV talk all the time why are we comparing LeBron to Jordan we should be comparing him to Kobe because Kobe got five rings and Kobe is also an all-time great player. And back in the day people was saying Kobe is the greatest of all time over Jordan a lot of people said that
I find it interesting that people hold rings as the be all end all only when it suits their argument. People say MJ is better than Lebron because he has more championships. Bill Russell has more championships, but those same people overlook that fact. Kareem has six, has comparable stats to MJ and changed the way basketball is played. He isn't in the conversation.
SJW 4LIFE bill russell played against white boys who belonged in a ymca rec league
That doesn't invalidate what he did. He can't and shouldn't be held accountable for the era he played in. Did he dominate his era? Did he win in his era? We can poke holes in everybody's resume. A win is a win.
@@kayujay and so did jorbald. The average player in the jorbald era wouldn't stand a chance against the average nba player today. 30 years of evolution is no joke and if you can't see rhat you have jorbald meat down ya throat
Kobe is better than Lebron and that is not debatable.
Who would watch a Cris Carter and Shannon Sharpe show ? The Catch
Nick wright just be saying anything.... like lebron said its people who has never played bball at a high level giving they opinion about who is the best...and like kobe said just enjoy who has played great and is playing Great..
The real reason why Kobe isn’t talked about in the Goat conversation is because MJ and LeBron have bigger impacts on the game and they both have different playing styles. When you typically hear MJ vs Kobe ppl say Kobe is a Walmart MJ or generic version of MJ and Kobe copies MJ playing style.
Bruce Rivers do you realize that you're disrespecting the second greatest shooting guard of all time. He's not Walmart anything
Rickey Lynoard Smith I never said he was. I said when I hear ppl compare MJ to Kobe that’s what they typically say. I’m a Kobe fan I have the upmost respect for him.
Bruce Rivers those arw idiots dont listen to them
TheLavaris Kobe is the closest in playing style because Kobe molded his game around Jordans. Kobe's game LOOKS the most like Jordans. That doesn't mean he is top 5. Bird, Magic, Lebron, Kareem, WIlt, Hakeem, Russell Shaq were all clearly better players then Kobe
ben1ben2ben1 only Mj Is clearly better
1 JORDAN
2 KOBE
3 LEBRON
💪🏽
Efrain Perez lebron no #1
I don't see how Lebron is better than Magic.
Noah Caucasus people are too caught up in the hype that’s why
Efrain Perez that's laughable
Noah Caucasus ask Magic
Jordan 6-0 beating EVERY team in EACH conference..Lebron would still only have 1 title if he played in west..Cant even be sure about that "1" either..Painful facts
Kobe is better the only people that think bron is better is the media
Kobe > LBJ
Hmmm remember that Magic team that beat Lebron like bongos... Yea Kobe smashed them in the finals. Hmmm... Remember that Boston Celtic super team that ran Bron outta Cleveland and forcer him to... Ahem... "Learn to win? " Kobe loss to them but two years later STILL IN A LAKER JERSEY came back and took what was his! Enough said
PREACH
Facts!!!!
Kobe had a better team...please don’t let me pull up both individual numbers for the elimination game. Lebron OUT PERFORMED kobe in all elimination games vs the Boston big 3. That’s for 08 ECF 08 finals and 2010 FINALS.
1.Jordan
2.Kobe
3.Lebron
And the rest fall under .
Kobe not even 2nd best laker of all time lol🤦🏽♂️
Cameron Kobe is better than lebron. He beat better teams, won more, Didn't need superteams to do it, and didn't not control the offense like lebron because he played in the triangle offense. Go home
Cameron Magic and Kareem both verbally, on video, declared Kobe Bryant as the best Laker ever (Magic even did so during the Finals MVP presentation during the last Lakers run). But sure, let’s believe the guy who posted a comment on TH-cam rather than two legends who actually played the game *and* who they themselves who are being compared to Kobe.
Stop it... Jordan > Lebron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe
Armin Alagić Lebron has played with a total of 14 all-star selections in his career. Kobe has had 4. Go home
Cris Carter exposed Nick Wright 😂😂😂
He's like "your my friend and all but gettin sick of this Bull...."
Nick you missed it bro.
I think Kobe is better than LeBron James 🤷♂️ I also think Kobe has earned the right to enter into any basketball conversation he wants to 🤷♂️ Fight me
Usually give CC the kind of day but, he's completely ignoring Nick. Nicks point seems to allude to Kobe inserting himself into LeBrons moment of greatness last night. LBJ carried that team to the finals which is a great feat, let's enjoy that, but he inserted himself which was unnecessary because we know how good Kobe was. I think that's what Nick was trying to say, Kobe can have his opinion just don't voice it on a night where we should be appriciating LeBron. Wilt wouldn't of tweeted #enjoymy100 after Kobe's 81 point game, I know Wilt passed away before that time but it's similar to that in my opinions
Mick Collings no you and nick are missing the point, the media is the ones who drag Kobe and mj into every conversation involving lebron
Kobe is trying to win some perspective to the conversation he was already apart of
Yeah kobe could tweet back yeah you was 7 "2 you did it against less taller player
darrell jones yeah Wilt would have said “I did it with no 3 pointers, because there was no 3 point line”
Charles805 Mamba could said which is a better way to score five feet from the basket or three point line so his shot was less difficult then kobe plus he is a guard the average high of most NBA guard but Wilt was like the Jolly Green Giant among mens
Nick overanalyzes things, A LOT!
Nick is disrespectful how are you gonna hate on Kobe
Some people looked at that quote like ok so who is he saying is better 😂😂😂
5-2 > 3-6
CC doesn’t know how to argue against Nicks banter. Nick is generally a pretty smart guy but his logic is so flawed sometimes it makes me cringe.
LeBron is a small forward not a shooting guard. Compare him to Bird not Jordan or Kobe.
boo it’s completely fair to compare him to other wing players
their styles are different tho
Jef Versavel yes but only because Lebron is a much more complete player and better than them in almost every way
Powerlifter83 lebron is a point forward. And his body makes him closer to a power forward.. Kobe is a pure shooting guard
Thanks Chris for putting Nick in his place!
Kobe isn’t even a top 3 Laker of all time. 6/24 shooting in the last most important game of his career.
Kobe is #11 at best
Kobe better than Lebron
Cedric Williams lol
I really hate the times we are living in when every and any schmuck with a narrative opinion and a platform can make a mass of people believe anything. Lebron is more than overratted, he represent what this world is becoming and has been in the last 5 to 6 years, which is brain dead sheeps. The media push this narrative of him being the GOAT but he is no where near. Everyone ignores all his short comings without any questions and ignore all the greats that came before him.
How did someone that has the all-time most playoffs misses, all-time playoffs turnovers, lost 5 nba finals, abandon his team twice and devalues all of his teammates become in the conversation of actually being the GREATEST OFF ALL TIMES. That is a huge title, to be called the GOAT, but Lebron fans and the media ignores all the true greats that came before him to annoit him. This is brainwash at its best.
You really just sound like a hater to be honest with you.
PREACH
LeBron passed Kobe years ago. Give it up, Kobe.
If any of you lames put any dirt on Kobes name you are not true basketball fan he was pure greatness
Y’all are interpreting it wrong. He is saying no matter who the player in question is, appreciate his impact he left! “My5” because Kobe tweeted it. If KG tweeted it and said “My1” he is meaning appreciate everyone’s impact on the game and not compare them, he wouldn’t be saying he is in the conversation with LBJ and Jordan
Man that tweet, so desperately trying to become part of the GOAT conversation. He wants to be mentioned with them so bad. He's not even top 10 player.
David K people have been comparing Kobe to Jordan since 1996. When LeBron won his first two MVPs people still said Kobe was the best player in the league including LeBron James himself
Rickey Lynoard Smith
Game-tying/go-ahead field goals with under 10 seconds left in the postseason:
Michael Jordan: 7/15 (47%)
Kobe Bryant: 5/22 (23%)
LeBron James: 12/23 (52%)
No comparison
Sam I Am you literally just compared them again
"Kevin Durant is a Better Basketball Player than Lebron James"
- Said No One.
Axle Gallardo lol Skip Bayless said that
I dunno if gs beata the rockets and Durant gives bron the business again that convo will start happening more and more.
Axle Gallardo if Durant wins finals mvp this year and has a good chance next year I'm sure it will come up.
Kobe will never be in the GOAT debate. But, I don't think he needs to be hated on for the hashtag. Let him have it. LeBron may end up with less rings, but he's legacy is secure - and he has had to carry far less talented teams than Kobe.
Tiara Brown Kobe was already in the goat debate man
Lies, what you meant to say was LeBron was carried by D Wade Bosh Ray Allen and Kyrie Irving in the finals. We ALL saw how Kyrie took over in the last win. Bron was nowhere to be seen.
Yes LBJ has carried far less talented teams in a far less talented eastern conference
Kobe > LeBron lets knock it off
The Kobe disrespect is ridiculous man Wtf
Kobe isn't even in the conversation. It is either Lebron or Michael. Kobe is like 10th on the list.
Valencia Olitz Amen
That's YOUR opinion.
David Howard factual wen it comes to statistics
MJ vs LeBron
This is a silly debate. Clearly Michael is better. It's not even a close one. But let's go to the facts. Updated after Lebrons 14th season. Michael Jordan has
•3 more rings
•3 more final mvps
•1 more DPOY
•1 more season MVP
•9 more scoring titles
•3 more steals leader
•3 more all defensive team selections
•4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer lol.
•800 more steals
•Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10)
•Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals
Lebron did it twice
•6/6 (never allowed a game 7)
•Lebron had much more help
•Jordan never had a teammate averaged more than 22 points in the finals..
Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26
•MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs
•MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games..
All of this accomplished in 13 seasons
Lebron is in his 14th season still chasing the "ghost that played in Chicago"
•Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg.
(86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics.
•Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line.
•in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this.
•the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%.
•MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3%
•MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3.
•MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9%
•MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year..
Seriously this list can keep going. This isn't even a debate. Mj is the GOAT.
Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls:
-10 STRAIGHT scoring titles,
-Won Defensive Player of the Year,
-9 times all defensive team,
-9time All NBA,
-5 league MVPs
-6 finals MVPs
LBJ missed the playoffs completely in his first 2 years. Jordan didnt with scrubs on his squad. Jordan played 82 games 9 times in his career once at 40. LBJ only played 82 games once. In 89 Jordan won the scoring title all star MVP slam dunk title regular season MVP and Defensive Player of The year something LBJ has never done. Jordan also averaged 41 pts a game for an entire Finals shootimg 50% and won. Something else LBJ never did.
All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career...
And before you criticize me for copy and pasting just know that it doesn’t matter if it’s copied or not, truth is truth.
Check Mate.
Valencia Olitz crackhead, put the pipe down.
Top 3:. MJ, LeBron, jabbar.
LeBron's peak is higher than Jordan but MJ has more accomplishments.
truth betold I think MJ’s peak was a little higher. Not by much but Lebron will have more longevity than MJ
truth betold no it wasn’t
So basically Lebron’s the better player but Jordan has more team accomplishments...
Sachin Johri Yeah because basketball is a team sports...
Wrong. MJ’s peak was higher as max kellerman always brings up. The analytics are there for you too see. The numbers accolades. It’s all there. If you choose to ignore it that’s on you. Lebron has not eclipsed anything MJ has done.
Kobe is overrated. Pointless topic.
The Charles Rand u re overrating ur opinion
John Zada III
Truth.
John Zada III nah "THE BEST SG" with the MOST bricks and playoff exits via sweeps is the definition of OVERRATED
How??
Joe 7374 Jordan 6th on that list btw lebron will enter the top ten of that list within the next couple of seasons but 🐸☕️
What are they comparing, MJ and Lebron are two different players and so is Kobe and Lebron, period.
Is Kobe not in the greatest player of all-time discussion anymore smh
Lol Nick hit the jackpot
Kobe isn't better than Lebron, he's no where near Lebron. Lebron dominated Kobe through out Kobe's career, you can see highlights here on TH-cam. There is nothing to talk about. The issue here is the rings factor, that clouds the actual talent and domination of Lebron.
bron wasn’t the leagues best till like 2011
Ry Guy 😂 i can’t put duncan over kobe. kobe easily was most skillful maybe not the best but lotta players put him over bron
if rings dont matter wilt is the goat no question about it
lol which stats are you following? lololololol
Warriors fan here; i grew up watching Jordan and Kobe. I honestly have to say that Lebron is better then both of them. Jordan and Kobe were pure scorers but Lebron does more. Jordan didn't have to face a team like the Warriors and Rockets.
If Harden and Cp3 can bring GSW to 7, Michael and Scottie can beat GSW, unless you are saying Harden and Cp3 are better than Jordan and Pippen.
TrolandoTV just imagine if lebron had to go against the Detroit pistons with Ben big shot and rip and the Big 3 celtics in there prime for multiple years he would not be making all these trips to the finals facts
Mclovin Lovins Harden and CP3 didn't bring the Warriors to 7, THE ROCKETS DID! Your point is irrelevant; try again.
JeboDaLoneWolf I agree
TrolandoTV THE BULLS of 1991 to 1998 led by MJ and Pippen were better than THE ROCKETS of now LED by Harden and CP3. So it is relevant. Your opinion is worth garbage to me so why would I try again?
Remember when you got axed from MTV Tom Green mufuka 🤣 lmao
No media ...comparing MJ Labron...Laughable....Skill Set no NBA players say Labron better than MJ or Kobe not even close..More Media Engineering...everyone's Not Sheep..damm! CC want to spit the Truth but the contract Real...