I hated Barnes or any other monolithic bullet for a couple of decades. Then I realized that all of my opinion was based on what other people had said. I had never tried them myself. Wow. Very accurate on the bench. In the field the terminal performance of the TTSX was devastating. Meat damage was less than lead due to the fact that an all copper bullet does not fragment like a lead core. I still use lead core for predator hunting but for big game I am exclusively using Barnes.
I shoot the TTSX because it is the most accurate bullet I've found for my 7 Rem Mag. It is indeed a premium bullet. As a deer hunter i've not lost an animal and never recovered a bullet. Thanks for the video...well done. Sorry that California has turned into such a hell hole.
Great review, this convinced me to go with the TTSX in my 243 Win. as I was looking for something tough for our conditions here in Africa. Keep the great videos coming. Keep well
I tried the X BULLET when it first came out. Gave up on it because of accuracy issues. After watching your videos I now use TTSX. I have found everything you said to be true especially accuracy of these bullets. Please keep the great videos coming!
Very informative. I believe lot of people do not use barnes correctly and complain. Barnes tsx( 2000 fps ) ,ttsx ( 1800fps ) and lrx ( 1600fps ) minimim velocity is... If used toward their minimum velocity they will work
I have used TSX and now TTSX since the fail safe bullets went away. The TTSX is fantastic on moose, and I'm confident it would break shoulders on a brown bear. (I use a .300 win mag). I believe the mass retention of the TTSX makes it especially effective for hunting. Interesting discussion.
I've been using Barnes bullets since long before California forced me to go non-leaded. Even the old Barnes 'X" bullets served me well with seven one shot kills in a row on Black Tail deer. They worked the best for me when I could break at least one shoulder bone and then go through the chest cavity. Those deer dropped in their tracks as the bullet really seemed to "shiver their timbers." I did need follow up shots when I didn't shoot well and made a lung shot. Thanks for this video. You always have good down to earth content because of your experience in hunting, shooting and reloading.
Shot Nosler Partitions for hunting most of my lifetime and they always performed well in all medium to large calibers. Loaded the original Barnes X without grooves for my 375 H&H and 7x64 in the early 2000th and they all performed well on game. Shot placement within ethical hunting distances is the key! I do not even want to know how many animals are wounded and never recovered by long range shots with inappropriate calibers and poorly constructed bullets.
Well said. We find wasted animals every year after the season. Either the "223 is a deer rifle" crowd. Or, the guys who have rifles named " Creedmoor" and " PRC" that think a lot of rifle makes up for a little skill.
Good informative video. Can tell you know your stuff...solid! I've been using Barnes ttx and ttsx for 7 years. Very accurate and effective. I've had to rethink some things: lighter for caliber bullets, faster, and shoot through shoulders not behind. Have to clean barrel more often and better! Will have to try LRX. Thanks
Thank you so much for your extremely truthful reviews! You help with your knowledge and experience without any advertising and swagger! Health and hunting fart!
I very much appreciate and admire your straight forward approach. Thank you for the truth. I got a chance to shoot a blacktail in the shoulder and it was beautiful the result. Bullet hit the heart on the way through. And basically was dead before I could find it after it fell down the embankment. Another buck was about 70 ish yards away and lower on elevation. I got a shot right through the spine. 6 in hes of spine was pulverized fragments. In fact my hunting buddy had my cutlery and I had to make it work. Because of the massive damage I was able to split thr buck into two pieces, else wise I would have been there a lot lot longer. There is no such thing as perfect, but I love what happens when the tipped bullet hits bone on a game animal.
My medicine for mulies, whitetail, and pronghorn is a 243 win, loaded with 100 grain Barnes ttsx. I have taken shots to 450 yards, all successful, save one that was a clean miss. I am a Barnes TSX and TTSX fan for life, now. I have stockpiled thousands of Barnes bullets, in case the company goes out of biz, so my sons can handload them, and hunt with them for life
I use 85 grain TSX in my 243 Xbolt long range 26" barrel. It loves em & animals hate them! 11 point taken this year on KANSAS rifle opener @ 250 yards. Night before guide called my rifle/243 a Coyote rifle. Told him if i saw a shooter come across this field i would change his mind. He dressed my deer & said Damn @ the internal damage! I said, Nuff Said! He's a believer now. 🤣🦌🦌🦌🦌
A friend of mine uses 165 TTSX bullets in his 300 WSM and they are very accurate and deadly on everything from buck antelope to bull elk. Great bullets.
100% Desert Dog! Love the 300 H&H and the shoulder shot! I've been shooting barnes bullets for years and started with the original X version.Barnes offers a lot of lighter weight bullets in all the different calibers which can turn your favorite bigbore into a long range game getter.The last 5 caribou I shot in Quebec before they closed it, were shot with my .458 win mag and 350gr Barnes X bullets at 2550fps! 4 of the 5 were shots over 300yds. One was over 400yds! Half inch hole in, two inch hole out, very little meat damage. Some people say the shoulder shot ruins too much meat. I say BS! Yeah, maybe if you hit the shoulder with a Sierra or Corelock because cup and core bullets will generally just blow up when hitting heavy bone and not penetrate to the vitals! Depending on the angle, the shoulder shot breaks the animal down and with dangerous game like buffalo it slows them down making it easier to finish them off! Break that shoulder and it takes the fight out them! Seen it, done it! Nice review.
Thanks for another great video; you always do a fantastic job. These bullets have always been great for me. Easy to reload and put on animals for nice kills. Remember* Shot placement is critical. Like with any bullet, placement is key! Take care.
Thanks for this video. I'm making the switch away from lead ammo this year. Just ordered some 150 and 168gr TTSX in .308 to see how it groups. Thanks again for the info.
Based on my experience you are totaly right, the bullets are outstanding accurate for a hunting bullet and the killing performance is great as long as you hit a tough structure of the animal. I will not go back to lead core bullets.
Good info, thank you sir. I’ve seen a bunch of mule deer drop easy with a bunch of different calibers. I’ve seen some just plan refuge to die. Happy hunting everybody
Thank you for your thoughts on the great Barnes bullets. Remember that you can use a lighter bullet for caliber and get adequate penetration as a lead bullet because it keeps all of its weight. I use a 130 Green tea TSX bullet in my 308 Winchester. I am using Tac powder which drives the bullet at about 3100 ft./s. 130 g/3100 ft./s… Sound familiar. 270 Winchester? Great load shoots under an inch and will knock down anything that poops in the woods.
Great video! Great content, I love the 250gr and 300gr TSX in 45-70, my usual round for Deer and Black bear, but this season, I want to try the LRX in 6.5 Creedmoor. Good shooting you have there, my hopes are up! Thanks for the video.
Thank you for this video. Your logic and presentation are much appreciated. Going to AK this spring after brown bears with a 30-06. Your information is helping me narrow it down to either original TSXs or maybe the TTSXs. Long shots will NOT be taken, we want to be very sure Griz is hit hard where it counts.
I personally would not use a 30-06 for Griz, although a well placed shot will definitely kill one. It is very hard to get a perfect shot on a big bear because of thick fur, fat, muscle, and vitals that shift all over the place depending on the orientation of the bear. I like using a round that gives a margin of safety for a not-so-perfect shot. I would step up to 375 or a minimum of 338 win mag. On Kodiak Island, I would take my 416. A well designed gun like an M70 in 375 H&H really doesn't kick much harder than a 30-06.
The 200gr tsx is the heaviest bullet Barnes makes for .308 caliber. I dont personally think a grizzly bear is going to know the difference if its shot with a 30-06 or a 300 win mag at a reasonable distance. For longer distance or more energy requirement then the 300 win mag is what to take to the dance.
Very informative. I really appreciate your hunting ethics. I've walked away from several hunts because of the ethics of my camp companions. I love to hunt, I also love to target practice at long range. But don't target practice with the game you hunt.
Been hunting with the same 270 Weatherby Mag for 36 years. Some years ago, when I bought more cartridges, Weatherby had switched over to Barnes. After all those years with Nosler, I was concerned. Love the Triple Shock. Been reloading about 5 years now. They are the only bullet I reload all my family's rifles with. Match them with a magnum rifle. THEY HIT HARD. I figured my cost on reloads is $.99 each! Outstanding hog bullet. 2536 ft/lbs of energy at 200 yards, 130 grain bullet. 3/4 inch groups out of a well maintained rifle with about 900 rounds thru it. Talked to a Barnes rep, he said the plastic tip only really help you past 400 yards.
I cannot believe when you were telling Barnes to "get your butt in gear" about the dated reloading manual, you didn't tell them to "get the lead out". Missed opportunity, man. It wrote itself.
Best hunting bullet on the market in my opinion, and you are right these bullets are not tack driving accurate. But hey when your hunting you not trying to clip holes your trying to kill an animal as quickly and cleanly as possible. You can achieve a 1/2" MOA if reloading with them though, just need to check the twist of the rifling and make sure you have enough turns per ft. to stabilize this round as it has to be made longer to get the weigh that is needed. (Great hunting round Barnes)
I totally agree with your points in this video... Only point, I have used Barnes TSX "308 168 gn on dear and small black bear, the results were perfect, and not much meat damage.... So even on soft skinned animals, Barnes bullets are perfect.
great video, thanks. just shot barnes an e-mail to bug them, still no 5th edition, its been over 12yrs.... looking at the 190g LRX for elk. the extra BC is buying me some effective range in 30-06. Estimating off book numbers I should maintain the minimum 1500ft lb out to 550yds, and be at about 1900fps, more than enough to expand reliably.
I can attest from experience that the TTSX bullets are awesome. I shot a 6 point bull elk at 380 yards with the 300 win mag and the bullet broke both shoulders and found the bullet inside the hide on the far side and expanded perfectly. The 180 grain bullet retained 90% of its weight.
I loaded some 130tsx in my 270wsm just to shoot for practice and they were so accurate I used it for deer and it worked good deer dropped iam happy with Barnes
Just put together a ttsx load for my 7.62×39 bolt action that grouped .83" at 100 yards going 2300 fps. That will be my daughters hunting load this year.
Excellent! I live in interior Alaska and have been reloading and hunting with TTSX for the past decade. For .270 I use 130 gr TTSX with IMR4350 (sitka blacktails, Dall sheep, black bear, caribou). For big bull moose, I reload 180gr TTSX with IMR4831 in 300 H & H. Typically good expansion, full penetration, 90% weight retention, and an exit hole, and good accuracy. Accuracy is most affected by bullet seating depth off the lands. Barnes recommends starting 50 thousandths of the lands as a starting seating depth. I shoot about 20 TTSX every week, so at $30 per box a 50 they are half the price of Hammer monolithics. I love your 5 shot groups...I think 3 shot group can be misleading.
130 gr TTSX with .270Win great combination! Hunting Oryx, Kudu, Black and Blue Wildebeest in Namibia with mine. Would really appreciate some load data, if youa re willing!... also starting to load now. Much appreciated erongo@yahoo.com
@@antonfaul4047 I always start with minimum published loads, and work my way up www.barnesbullets.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/270WinchesterForWeb.pdf I am not a long range shooter...in 28 years of hunting Alaska most of my kills have been less than 200 yards. The last 2 were less than 50 yards (Sitka black tail at 15 yards, bull moose at 35 yards).
Your 300 H&H rifle is gorgeous and a real performer. My big-30 is the 300RUM and it shoots 130 grain TTSX's at over 3700 fps! I also use 7mm 140 grain TTSX's in a 280 Remington and in a 7mm Rem Mag. On the other end of the spectrum I use .224 50 grain Varmint Grenades in .223 Rem. Excellent information in your review, thank you.
I love Barnes x bullets of all types. Best bullet made for Elk and larger game ! Never once have I had an issue with one not expanding. They fixed that issue back in the 90s by softening the nose.
Personally speaking, I prefer the Barnes TTSX bullets. I use them in both, my Browning Bar 30-06, and 300 Winchester Mag, and I've found them perform exceptionally well. With regards to you folks in California, all I can say is that you have my sympathy!
Exactly correct. That is why it is important to step down a little in bullet weight and push them faster. These bullets are very easy to find accurate loads for.
Thanks for a very good, informative, and ethical sound video.👍 Just a single comment on the “drop dead or run dead” issue. Several different researches in USA and in Europe have confirmed, that the “drop dead” scenario is primarily caused by placing the bullet in the upper part of the body. The reason for this is simple. The chock wave in the animal tissue will for 3-5 seconds paralyse the spine. And normally when that time has elapsed, the blood pressure has falen so the animal no longer can coordinate the movements and run away. We all know that animals can run away with the heart shot to pirces. But they cant run witout legs..😊😊 BR Jan
Makes sense. I smoked a 21 3/4 Blackie out of a stand not 20 yards out earlier this year.. 45-70 with the factory load 325 Hornady FTX, right below/behind shoulder blade for double lung clean pass through even with ballistic tip bullet. He plowed though 70-80 yards of timber before running along side a creek he knew he couldn't cross and piling into a tree along side it. Ran so far into the thick that it was not possible to get ATV's in to haul him out and we had to skin him out on the ground in a mess. Just the Idea of dumping a 325 grain round with a lethal shot into animal like this in a close range self defence situation and having him still be able to run you clean over with energy to spare was an eye opener to say the least. Best tip I have gotten from experienced hunters since then is to use a round like this TSX and if you want to stop the animal, shoot through the front shoulder blade.
In the 90is I shoot through one big cape buffalo and two smaller with one 300 grs Barnes x from a 378 Wbm. The problem with the x bullet was cleaning the metal out of the barrel. Less barrel contact on the new bullets makes them better. They are excellent hunting bullets. Maybe the best?
I’ve been using the 0.338 caliber, 225 grain TTSX for six hunting seasons. It’s performance on game is exceptional, I don’t know it could be improved. It always exits the animal and turns any organ it hits into soup.
I started out hunting in a shotgun only area. The best slugs we ever used were the Federal loaded Barnes expander. They were beautiful 6 petaled copper hollow points. That on impact opened up to approximately 1.5 inches. The deer seldom went far. I'm currently using 250g in my 454 casull and the 250g TTSX in my 375 Ruger. Took a doe last year with the revolver, she dropped in her tracks, never took a step. To get the load data for the 250 TTSX in my 375 Ruger, I had to call Barnes to get what I needed.
I am shot Barnes bullets for a number of years and my biggest complaint is they really need to step up their game and update their reloading manual because I am constantly trying to go online to get load data on different rounds and I reload a lot of different calibers and I also like to see some more bullets for the older cartridges
I use 250gr. Barnes TSX in my 9.3x62. It may not be an ideal combination, but it works very well on wild boar on distances up to 150meters. Thanks for the video.
@@dimmacommunication it works well. I hunt in Germany, the distances for this type of hunt are rather small (around 50 meters and almost always below 150meters). The bullet causes less meat damage as compared to smaller and faster rounds (I also use a 6.5Cr), but still kills quickly, which is why a lot of hunters use it for driven hunts (quite popular here - although not for me...). Recoil is a little bit more than a .308, however I shoot a rather heavy Blaser R8 with a semiweight barrel, and this combination makes it very managable. Aditionally, although this is subjective, I would say that recoil of the 9.3x62 is gently pushing, instead of kicking hard. I also used it on roe deer (which is really small as compared to boar), however there is also very quick effect and almost no meat loss. I would not use it on wider distance, for example on chamois in the mountains. Good day to you!
Ross Siegfried guns+ammo shooting editor tested these bullets for a couple years before barns introduced them to the public. He shot water buffaloes and wild donkeys in Australia and raved about they’re performance. Ross said a good hunting bullet should make two holes entrance + exit the exit being very important! Forgive me if I misspelled his name.
I put a 180g TTSX into a wildebeest on an open chest shot. The skinners dug it out of the hind end still in one piece. Put it on my scales and it still weighs 180g. Fantastic ammo.
@Blake I process all my own game at home. I also have a lot of respect for the guys who do that job when I'm hunting in Africa and am very happy to pay for their work. All the meat from the animals I've hunted out there went into the food chain. My money went into the economy.
@Blake When you hunt in Africa, you are hunting on private property or a reserve. (whether a rancher, company, co-op, government, or tribe owns the land). They will not just turn you lose to do what you want; you will be provided a Professional Hunter, driver, tracker, skinner, cook, and possibly even a government observer depending on area. If this bothers you and offends you, don't hunt in Africa. Also, on most African hunts, the choice cuts (tenderloins/straps) are kept in camp and cooked for meals; the rest of the meat is donated to local people, which is often the only protein they will get. You cannot transport game meat back to the US after an African hunt; it is against US law.
@faultroy It depends. Some SA game farms might bring the meat to market, but not the ones I have hunted with. The private property outfitters I hunted with gave the unused meat to local villagers, as the skinners and staff usually get their fill of meat pretty fast during hunting season. On tribal land, the local tribe gets the meat and will often put on a dance and give thanks to the hunters for the meat and for the tribal revenue generated by the hunt. On Government land, the meat not used for camp is also donated. Nothing goes to waste.
You can go to Barnes's website and get the new data for The TTSX & LRX. If it's not updated, one of the expert consultants will give your info. I've used almost exclusively Barnes bullets since 1999 and have shot California hogs and blacktail deer with excellent results. I moved to (back) to Idaho in 2003 and still only use my 257wby mag for hunting anything that walks. 100gr TTSX has accounted for more deer and elk than any other caliber I've ever owned. I currently own a 257 wby, 250 Savage, 300win mag, 308 win, 6.5 cm and a 9.3x62. I shoot barnes bullets exclusively for hunting and the others are for cheap target shooting. Good hunting!
they have not updated LRX or TTSX data for many of the cartridges I load for. When you call, the "expert consultants" tell you to use TSX data, which is no help at all because the bullets are vastly different.
No doubt the all copper bullets are king in my opinion. I can shoot what ever bullet I want and still shoot the ttsx and lrx in 6.5 Creedmoor/Grendel . Hands down my favorite bullet!!!
liked your video on barnes bullets great analysis. I am not a reloader but barnes puts their load data on line free to the public, don't see that from the rest.
Hey, I am a believer, I started loading ttsx 120 gr Creedmoor. I didnt even see what was coming, I put 5 bullets through 1/2 inch at 100yds , IMR4350 40.5gr. Savage 10fcp 20in barrel. These things are accurate. Then I shot the same load through a 22in barrel savage and had almost the exact results. Shoots more consistant then GMX. I have been messing around with those too.
@@foonus406 1/8 Also started loading 127gr LRX with Superformance, getting some good results. I thought i would see why this powder was less expensive, so far it has done well with this combo. And the rifle was 22in savage TH/10 with 1/8 and a boyds stock, no bedding.
I agree with your ethics trying to shoot deer or other big game at 800 plus yards is foolish and not really hunting. Plus your comments on internet bowl shitters is so true.
All of California in 2019 has to use lead free for hunting thanks for the video I ordered some lrx in 7mm and 270 we will see how they group I tried nosler etips and hornady gmx bullets they were terrible 6 inch groups at 100 yards like you I used the Accubond and would get 1 moa or less at 100 yards.. I sas very discouraged till I saw this video.
Barnes is from Utah a state that allows lead they created the 50 BMG and 1911 and all the browning guns as that’s another Utah company mormons engineer guns well and bullets
Desertd Dog Outdoors: If you go to the Barnessbullets.com website they have updated and added a lot of new reloading info and added new cartridges including 6.5 Grendel/Creedmoor/Weatherby Mag, 7mm RUM, etc, Just go to their site and click on the Load Data at the top of the page. It includes the TSX/TTS/LRTSX ETC, . I really like the Barnes Bullets and have used them since 1998 with a deer load with the 185gr BT in my 338 Win Mag. Dropped South Dakota whitetail in their tracks and a huge porcupine DRT Great video BTW thanks.
The website still lacks new data on many calibers that I regularly shoot (example; LRX bullets in 300 H&H). LRX load data is still pretty limited. Not the end of the world, just wasted time and supplies finding a place to start safe load development.
I emailed Barnes and they stated the LRX is designed to expand down to 1600-1700 FPS. The TTSX, depending upon the caliber, is designed to expand at around the same velocity. So they have not been designed to expand at a lower velocity. I have seen similar results as you have handloading the LRX. I also shot the loaded 190 LRX 300 Win Mag ammo in my Browning BAR. I was very impressed, the ES was 20 FPS and SD less than 10. I thought that was impressive in a factory loaded ammo shot through a semi auto gun.
This has not been my experience. Firing into water jugs, both the TTSX and the LRX expand very little under 2000 fps, and get almost no expansion at 1800 fps.
Desert Dog Outdoors I think when they are saying they expand, they are counting a small expansion at the nose as expansion. So what you saw as little expansion might be what they consider expanding. I’m also not sure how scientific water jugs are to compare how they test for expansion on ballistic gel or on game with hide and bones. Not saying it isn’t a good indicator, just not sure if it’s exactly apples to apples.
Desert Dog Outdoors I just got back from a mule deer hunt in Montana. We shot a mule deer with a 175 gr LRX at about 430 yards line of sight from my .308 Win. The impact velocity would have been 2000 FPS and the bullet dropped him with a very solid shock. The exit hole looked like the bullet either expanded or tumbled - either way it did a lot of damage. The shot was filmed so I’ll post it once I get the hunt compiled.
I've used the ttsx in 30-06 it killed great but I wasn't getting the accuracy I wanted 1.5 inch groups at 100 was all I could get but I still used it and killed alot of hogs and deer out to 150 yards with little to no running great bullet for the average ethical hunter
Regarding the Barnes load data… I have observed a much better correlation between published velocity and actual tested velocities with hodgdon load data. Some of the velocities published in the barnes load data online are pretty outrageously high.
Unfortunately, barns need some velocity to work exceptionally. Try and shoot for a more solid part of the animal. Or get closer. That 30-30 loses energy fast due to that flat nose on the front.
@@blindboyjonny oh ya, I've shot 3 deer with the 150 grain 30-30s at less then 50 yards, with the rounds traveling just under 2300 fps. 2 deer took forever to find, and the 3rd I never recovered. All 3 where double lung shots, should have shot for shoulder
I picked the TSX bullet when lead bullets are banned in California. My first attempt with a 300+ lbs bear on the opening weekend of big game. It was a successful shot I took and the bear dropped down about 15 yards. But when I got to the bear, I noticed how clean the bullet exits the other side.
I had similar experience here in Australia on a Sambar deer. They are kind of like a smaller version of your elk. Shot broadside at about 100m with a 180gr tsx in 30-06, went double lung and it ran a short way and tipped over and died. The exit wound was pretty much the same as the entry which has me worried it behaved pretty much like a fmj. Did the job though and they are popular here
What I think about those bullets are more dangerous than the lead. Never know what is behind the target. It’s can go right through an animal but what if another game animal was behind it and get hit by the bullet? It’s going to be a wasted game.
@@nickgorman8625 I have been debating the blood trail thing myself.I understand if placed right he'll drop in his tracks but shot placement other than spine is key yes but due to the shock.Blown lungs and a destroyed heart don't drop them in their tracks.A heart blown in half can allow a deer to run 100 yds before dropping.
For the 458 Socom in AR 15s the 300gr TTSX is one of the preferred hunting rounds, due to its opening at lower velocities. I first started using Barnes when using the 400gr spire point for a practice duplicate of the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw 400. at 79.5 gr H335, and a CCI magnum primer, both shot just over 1 moa at 100 yards, and on a good day a bit tighter at 200 yards, running 2500 ish fps, a lot less recoil than the 500-510 gr round. The Barnes were less than half the cost of the TBBCs. This was before Jack Carter sold Trophy Bonded to Federal. He gave me that load from his load book, when I picked up my second box of bullets, that was a great visit with a man who had been there, and done that. The lower priced Barnes let me put close to 400 rounds down range from the bench to standing supported before my Safari in Chewore 1997.
Good review, enjoyed it...but still love nosler partitions and A frames...but what I came away with if thank God there is only one state called California and maybe someday it will become the island federation of California.
I hated Barnes or any other monolithic bullet for a couple of decades. Then I realized that all of my opinion was based on what other people had said. I had never tried them myself. Wow. Very accurate on the bench. In the field the terminal performance of the TTSX was devastating. Meat damage was less than lead due to the fact that an all copper bullet does not fragment like a lead core. I still use lead core for predator hunting but for big game I am exclusively using Barnes.
I shoot the TTSX because it is the most accurate bullet I've found for my 7 Rem Mag. It is indeed a premium bullet. As a deer hunter i've not lost an animal and never recovered a bullet. Thanks for the video...well done. Sorry that California has turned into such a hell hole.
@RYG You should learn to converse in the English language.
Pretty good chance Barnes is watching too! More powders in the manual too please!
Thank you for taking the time to explain all this good information about barnes bullets.
Very interesting !!!!
Great review, this convinced me to go with the TTSX in my 243 Win. as I was looking for something tough for our conditions here in Africa. Keep the great videos coming. Keep well
I tried the X BULLET when it first came out. Gave up on it because of accuracy issues. After watching your videos I now use TTSX. I have found everything you said to be true especially accuracy of these bullets. Please keep the great videos coming!
Yet another honest and great video. Please keep them coming! God bless and have a safe season this coming year.
I love how honest you are, no mixing words on your channel. Cheers bro.
Very informative. I believe lot of people do not use barnes correctly and complain. Barnes tsx( 2000 fps ) ,ttsx ( 1800fps ) and lrx ( 1600fps ) minimim velocity is... If used toward their minimum velocity they will work
I have used TSX and now TTSX since the fail safe bullets went away. The TTSX is fantastic on moose, and I'm confident it would break shoulders on a brown bear. (I use a .300 win mag). I believe the mass retention of the TTSX makes it especially effective for hunting. Interesting discussion.
I've been using Barnes bullets since long before California forced me to go non-leaded. Even the old Barnes 'X" bullets served me well with seven one shot kills in a row on Black Tail deer. They worked the best for me when I could break at least one shoulder bone and then go through the chest cavity. Those deer dropped in their tracks as the bullet really seemed to "shiver their timbers." I did need follow up shots when I didn't shoot well and made a lung shot.
Thanks for this video. You always have good down to earth content because of your experience in hunting, shooting and reloading.
Shot Nosler Partitions for hunting most of my lifetime and they always performed well in all medium to large calibers. Loaded the original Barnes X without grooves for my 375 H&H and 7x64 in the early 2000th and they all performed well on game. Shot placement within ethical hunting distances is the key! I do not even want to know how many animals are wounded and never recovered by long range shots with inappropriate calibers and poorly constructed bullets.
Well said. We find wasted animals every year after the season. Either the "223 is a deer rifle" crowd. Or, the guys who have rifles named " Creedmoor" and " PRC" that think a lot of rifle makes up for a little skill.
Good informative video. Can tell you know your stuff...solid! I've been using Barnes ttx and ttsx for 7 years. Very accurate and effective. I've had to rethink some things: lighter for caliber bullets, faster, and shoot through shoulders not behind. Have to clean barrel more often and better! Will have to try LRX. Thanks
Im a fan of barnes for sure, great accuracy and lots of drt. Thank you for video!
Good info on the Barnes Bullets, Im pretty much a Nosler Partition guy but will give the TTSX a shot...
Thank you so much for your extremely truthful reviews! You help with your knowledge and experience without any advertising and swagger! Health and hunting fart!
I very much appreciate and admire your straight forward approach. Thank you for the truth. I got a chance to shoot a blacktail in the shoulder and it was beautiful the result. Bullet hit the heart on the way through. And basically was dead before I could find it after it fell down the embankment. Another buck was about 70 ish yards away and lower on elevation. I got a shot right through the spine. 6 in hes of spine was pulverized fragments. In fact my hunting buddy had my cutlery and I had to make it work. Because of the massive damage I was able to split thr buck into two pieces, else wise I would have been there a lot lot longer. There is no such thing as perfect, but I love what happens when the tipped bullet hits bone on a game animal.
Thanks for a great presentation.
My medicine for mulies, whitetail, and pronghorn is a 243 win, loaded with 100 grain Barnes ttsx. I have taken shots to 450 yards, all successful, save one that was a clean miss.
I am a Barnes TSX and TTSX fan for life, now. I have stockpiled thousands of Barnes bullets, in case the company goes out of biz, so my sons can handload them, and hunt with them for life
I use 85 grain TSX in my 243 Xbolt long range 26" barrel. It loves em & animals hate them! 11 point taken this year on KANSAS rifle opener @ 250 yards. Night before guide called my rifle/243 a Coyote rifle. Told him if i saw a shooter come across this field i would change his mind. He dressed my deer & said Damn @ the internal damage! I said, Nuff Said! He's a believer now. 🤣🦌🦌🦌🦌
A friend of mine uses 165 TTSX bullets in his 300 WSM and they are very accurate and deadly on everything from buck antelope to bull elk. Great bullets.
These are absolutely fantastic
I think your review and information is spot on! Thanks for your review! (I love barnes bullets too)
100% Desert Dog! Love the 300 H&H and the shoulder shot! I've been shooting barnes bullets for years and started with the original X version.Barnes offers a lot of lighter weight bullets in all the different calibers which can turn your favorite bigbore into a long range game getter.The last 5 caribou I shot in Quebec before they closed it, were shot with my .458 win mag and 350gr Barnes X bullets at 2550fps! 4 of the 5 were shots over 300yds. One was over 400yds! Half inch hole in, two inch hole out, very little meat damage.
Some people say the shoulder shot ruins too much meat. I say BS! Yeah, maybe if you hit the shoulder with a Sierra or Corelock because cup and core bullets will generally just blow up when hitting heavy bone and not penetrate to the vitals! Depending on the angle, the shoulder shot breaks the animal down and with dangerous game like buffalo it slows them down making it easier to finish them off! Break that shoulder and it takes the fight out them! Seen it, done it! Nice review.
And yes, Barnes, let's see a new reloading manual!
Thanks for another great video; you always do a fantastic job.
These bullets have always been great for me. Easy to reload and put on animals for nice kills. Remember* Shot placement is critical. Like with any bullet, placement is key!
Take care.
Thanks for this video. I'm making the switch away from lead ammo this year. Just ordered some 150 and 168gr TTSX in .308 to see how it groups. Thanks again for the info.
You just convinced me to order a box of LRX 175 for my 300 Weatherby 😁
Greetings from Sweden 👍🏻
Based on my experience you are totaly right, the bullets are outstanding accurate for a hunting bullet and the killing performance is great as long as you hit a tough structure of the animal. I will not go back to lead core bullets.
These Barnes bullets actually print better than any others in my Ruger M77's. My .243 groups a .30 group at 100 yds.
Barnes bullets are awesome bullets, I use them in .243 win, .257 weatherby, 7mm Rem mag., and .270 WSM.
Thank you Sir, very good Vid!
Good info, thank you sir. I’ve seen a bunch of mule deer drop easy with a bunch of different calibers. I’ve seen some just plan refuge to die.
Happy hunting everybody
Love the 50-55s in my 220 Swift.... Thats my go to when shtf for distance and devistation.
Very informative, thanks.
Thank you for your thoughts on the great Barnes bullets. Remember that you can use a lighter bullet for caliber and get adequate penetration as a lead bullet because it keeps all of its weight. I use a 130 Green tea TSX bullet in my 308 Winchester. I am using Tac powder which drives the bullet at about 3100 ft./s. 130 g/3100 ft./s… Sound familiar. 270 Winchester? Great load shoots under an inch and will knock down anything that poops in the woods.
Great video! Great content, I love the 250gr and 300gr TSX in 45-70, my usual round for Deer and Black bear, but this season, I want to try the LRX in 6.5 Creedmoor. Good shooting you have there, my hopes are up! Thanks for the video.
Thank you for this video. Your logic and presentation are much appreciated. Going to AK this spring after brown bears with a 30-06. Your information is helping me narrow it down to either original TSXs or maybe the TTSXs. Long shots will NOT be taken, we want to be very sure Griz is hit hard where it counts.
I personally would not use a 30-06 for Griz, although a well placed shot will definitely kill one. It is very hard to get a perfect shot on a big bear because of thick fur, fat, muscle, and vitals that shift all over the place depending on the orientation of the bear. I like using a round that gives a margin of safety for a not-so-perfect shot. I would step up to 375 or a minimum of 338 win mag. On Kodiak Island, I would take my 416. A well designed gun like an M70 in 375 H&H really doesn't kick much harder than a 30-06.
I thought AK required 300 win mag as the minimum for bear ?
The 200gr tsx is the heaviest bullet Barnes makes for .308 caliber. I dont personally think a grizzly bear is going to know the difference if its shot with a 30-06 or a 300 win mag at a reasonable distance. For longer distance or more energy requirement then the 300 win mag is what to take to the dance.
Great video. Thanks for the info
Very informative. I really appreciate your hunting ethics. I've walked away from several hunts because of the ethics of my camp companions. I love to hunt, I also love to target practice at long range. But don't target practice with the game you hunt.
Thank you for your compliment, and for your ethical approach to taking the life of a game animal.
I've been hunting Barnes bullets an absolutely love them and stand right beside you wanting a new manual
Been hunting with the same 270 Weatherby Mag for 36 years. Some years ago, when I bought more cartridges, Weatherby had switched over to Barnes. After all those years with Nosler, I was concerned. Love the Triple Shock. Been reloading about 5 years now. They are the only bullet I reload all my family's rifles with. Match them with a magnum rifle. THEY HIT HARD. I figured my cost on reloads is $.99 each! Outstanding hog bullet. 2536 ft/lbs of energy at 200 yards, 130 grain bullet. 3/4 inch groups out of a well maintained rifle with about 900 rounds thru it. Talked to a Barnes rep, he said the plastic tip only really help you past 400 yards.
Thanks for the video. I found it interesting.
I cannot believe when you were telling Barnes to "get your butt in gear" about the dated reloading manual, you didn't tell them to "get the lead out". Missed opportunity, man. It wrote itself.
Haha, that'd be perfect. Well played, man!
Best hunting bullet on the market in my opinion, and you are right these bullets are not tack driving accurate. But hey when your hunting you not trying to clip holes your trying to kill an animal as quickly and cleanly as possible. You can achieve a 1/2" MOA if reloading with them though, just need to check the twist of the rifling and make sure you have enough turns per ft. to stabilize this round as it has to be made longer to get the weigh that is needed. (Great hunting round Barnes)
I totally agree with your points in this video... Only point, I have used Barnes TSX "308 168 gn on dear and small black bear, the results were perfect, and not much meat damage.... So even on soft skinned animals, Barnes bullets are perfect.
I love Barnes in my 6mm Remington. With Sierra acquiring Barnes I believe the quality will continue or get better. Enjoyed to video.
Great no nonsense content -subscription added
great video, thanks. just shot barnes an e-mail to bug them, still no 5th edition, its been over 12yrs.... looking at the 190g LRX for elk. the extra BC is buying me some effective range in 30-06. Estimating off book numbers I should maintain the minimum 1500ft lb out to 550yds, and be at about 1900fps, more than enough to expand reliably.
The Eld and internet cowboy speech was spot on! 👏🏼 I enjoyed the soap box preaching.
I can attest from experience that the TTSX bullets are awesome. I shot a 6 point bull elk at 380 yards with the 300 win mag and the bullet broke both shoulders and found the bullet inside the hide on the far side and expanded perfectly. The 180 grain bullet retained 90% of its weight.
I loaded some 130tsx in my 270wsm just to shoot for practice and they were so accurate I used it for deer and it worked good deer dropped iam happy with Barnes
Just put together a ttsx load for my 7.62×39 bolt action that grouped .83" at 100 yards going 2300 fps. That will be my daughters hunting load this year.
Excellent! I live in interior Alaska and have been reloading and hunting with TTSX for the past decade.
For .270 I use 130 gr TTSX with IMR4350 (sitka blacktails, Dall sheep, black bear, caribou).
For big bull moose, I reload 180gr TTSX with IMR4831 in 300 H & H.
Typically good expansion, full penetration, 90% weight retention, and an exit hole, and good accuracy.
Accuracy is most affected by bullet seating depth off the lands. Barnes recommends starting 50 thousandths of the lands as a starting seating depth.
I shoot about 20 TTSX every week, so at $30 per box a 50 they are half the price of Hammer monolithics.
I love your 5 shot groups...I think 3 shot group can be misleading.
130 gr TTSX with .270Win great combination! Hunting Oryx, Kudu, Black and Blue Wildebeest in Namibia with mine. Would really appreciate some load data, if youa re willing!... also starting to load now. Much appreciated erongo@yahoo.com
@@antonfaul4047 I always start with minimum published loads, and work my way up www.barnesbullets.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/270WinchesterForWeb.pdf
I am not a long range shooter...in 28 years of hunting Alaska most of my kills have been less than 200 yards.
The last 2 were less than 50 yards (Sitka black tail at 15 yards, bull moose at 35 yards).
Those 180gr ttsx have an affinity for RL-17, I reload them for my 300win. The 200 TSX is an absolute bear killer also!
dude thanks for the advice!
Your 300 H&H rifle is gorgeous and a real performer. My big-30 is the 300RUM and it shoots 130 grain TTSX's at over 3700 fps! I also use 7mm 140 grain TTSX's in a 280 Remington and in a 7mm Rem Mag. On the other end of the spectrum I use .224 50 grain Varmint Grenades in .223 Rem. Excellent information in your review, thank you.
I love Barnes x bullets of all types. Best bullet made for Elk and larger game ! Never once have I had an issue with one not expanding. They fixed that issue back in the 90s by softening the nose.
Personally speaking, I prefer the Barnes TTSX bullets. I use them in both, my Browning Bar 30-06, and 300 Winchester Mag, and I've found them perform exceptionally well. With regards to you folks in California, all I can say is that you have my sympathy!
I've used these extensively on deer and can tell you they are awesome. At longer ranges it will open less. I get 1/4 - 1/2 inch groups typically
Exactly correct. That is why it is important to step down a little in bullet weight and push them faster. These bullets are very easy to find accurate loads for.
Thanks for a very good, informative, and ethical sound video.👍
Just a single comment on the “drop dead or run dead” issue. Several different researches in USA and in Europe have confirmed, that the “drop dead” scenario is primarily caused by placing the bullet in the upper part of the body. The reason for this is simple. The chock wave in the animal tissue will for 3-5 seconds paralyse the spine. And normally when that time has elapsed, the blood pressure has falen so the animal no longer can coordinate the movements and run away. We all know that animals can run away with the heart shot to pirces. But they cant run witout legs..😊😊
BR
Jan
Makes sense,thx for the info.
Makes sense. I smoked a 21 3/4 Blackie out of a stand not 20 yards out earlier this year.. 45-70 with the factory load 325 Hornady FTX, right below/behind shoulder blade for double lung clean pass through even with ballistic tip bullet. He plowed though 70-80 yards of timber before running along side a creek he knew he couldn't cross and piling into a tree along side it. Ran so far into the thick that it was not possible to get ATV's in to haul him out and we had to skin him out on the ground in a mess.
Just the Idea of dumping a 325 grain round with a lethal shot into animal like this in a close range self defence situation and having him still be able to run you clean over with energy to spare was an eye opener to say the least. Best tip I have gotten from experienced hunters since then is to use a round like this TSX and if you want to stop the animal, shoot through the front shoulder blade.
In the 90is I shoot through one big cape buffalo and two smaller with one 300 grs Barnes x from a 378 Wbm. The problem with the x bullet was cleaning the metal out of the barrel. Less barrel contact on the new bullets makes them better. They are excellent hunting bullets. Maybe the best?
You are so right.
I’ve been using the 0.338 caliber, 225 grain TTSX for six hunting seasons. It’s performance on game is exceptional, I don’t know it could be improved. It always exits the animal and turns any organ it hits into soup.
I started out hunting in a shotgun only area. The best slugs we ever used were the Federal loaded Barnes expander. They were beautiful 6 petaled copper hollow points. That on impact opened up to approximately 1.5 inches. The deer seldom went far.
I'm currently using 250g in my 454 casull and the 250g TTSX in my 375 Ruger. Took a doe last year with the revolver, she dropped in her tracks, never took a step.
To get the load data for the 250 TTSX in my 375 Ruger, I had to call Barnes to get what I needed.
I am shot Barnes bullets for a number of years and my biggest complaint is they really need to step up their game and update their reloading manual because I am constantly trying to go online to get load data on different rounds and I reload a lot of different calibers and I also like to see some more bullets for the older cartridges
I love barns tipped tsx I use data from a number 2 book the grains are the same and my bullets work great use them for all my guns
Amen!
I got the TSX for reloading my 303British and found it to be the best grouping bullet I got, over hornady interlock bullet or similar type bullets
I liked the comment on Best of the West and shooting at 400yds (13:20). Exactly what I feel.
Also, I agree about the manual. Pisses me off too
I use 250gr. Barnes TSX in my 9.3x62. It may not be an ideal combination, but it works very well on wild boar on distances up to 150meters.
Thanks for the video.
isn't 9.3x62 a bit too much for boar ?
@@dimmacommunication it works well. I hunt in Germany, the distances for this type of hunt are rather small (around 50 meters and almost always below 150meters).
The bullet causes less meat damage as compared to smaller and faster rounds (I also use a 6.5Cr), but still kills quickly, which is why a lot of hunters use it for driven hunts (quite popular here - although not for me...). Recoil is a little bit more than a .308, however I shoot a rather heavy Blaser R8 with a semiweight barrel, and this combination makes it very managable. Aditionally, although this is subjective, I would say that recoil of the 9.3x62 is gently pushing, instead of kicking hard.
I also used it on roe deer (which is really small as compared to boar), however there is also very quick effect and almost no meat loss.
I would not use it on wider distance, for example on chamois in the mountains. Good day to you!
@@FearsomeBookling isn't the 9.3x62 comparable to 375 HH ?
@@dimmacommunication the .375 has a slightly larger diameter and is more powerful, especially from longer barrels.
@@FearsomeBookling I've read that people use it as a 375 hh substitute in Africa 🤔
Ross Siegfried guns+ammo shooting editor tested these bullets for a couple years before barns introduced them to the public. He shot water buffaloes and wild donkeys in Australia and raved about they’re performance. Ross said a good hunting bullet should make two holes entrance + exit the exit being very important! Forgive me if I misspelled his name.
I also love the Barnes bullets. I’ve been reading great things about the Hammers lately as well, and want to give them a try.
Try badlands bulldozers
@@eddielombera5862 Will do!
I put a 180g TTSX into a wildebeest on an open chest shot. The skinners dug it out of the hind end still in one piece. Put it on my scales and it still weighs 180g. Fantastic ammo.
@Blake I process all my own game at home. I also have a lot of respect for the guys who do that job when I'm hunting in Africa and am very happy to pay for their work. All the meat from the animals I've hunted out there went into the food chain. My money went into the economy.
@Blake When you hunt in Africa, you are hunting on private property or a reserve. (whether a rancher, company, co-op, government, or tribe owns the land). They will not just turn you lose to do what you want; you will be provided a Professional Hunter, driver, tracker, skinner, cook, and possibly even a government observer depending on area. If this bothers you and offends you, don't hunt in Africa. Also, on most African hunts, the choice cuts (tenderloins/straps) are kept in camp and cooked for meals; the rest of the meat is donated to local people, which is often the only protein they will get. You cannot transport game meat back to the US after an African hunt; it is against US law.
@faultroy It depends. Some SA game farms might bring the meat to market, but not the ones I have hunted with. The private property outfitters I hunted with gave the unused meat to local villagers, as the skinners and staff usually get their fill of meat pretty fast during hunting season. On tribal land, the local tribe gets the meat and will often put on a dance and give thanks to the hunters for the meat and for the tribal revenue generated by the hunt. On Government land, the meat not used for camp is also donated. Nothing goes to waste.
You can go to Barnes's website and get the new data for The TTSX & LRX. If it's not updated, one of the expert consultants will give your info. I've used almost exclusively Barnes bullets since 1999 and have shot California hogs and blacktail deer with excellent results. I moved to (back) to Idaho in 2003 and still only use my 257wby mag for hunting anything that walks. 100gr TTSX has accounted for more deer and elk than any other caliber I've ever owned. I currently own a 257 wby, 250 Savage, 300win mag, 308 win, 6.5 cm and a 9.3x62. I shoot barnes bullets exclusively for hunting and the others are for cheap target shooting.
Good hunting!
they have not updated LRX or TTSX data for many of the cartridges I load for. When you call, the "expert consultants" tell you to use TSX data, which is no help at all because the bullets are vastly different.
No doubt the all copper bullets are king in my opinion. I can shoot what ever bullet I want and still shoot the ttsx and lrx in 6.5 Creedmoor/Grendel . Hands down my favorite bullet!!!
Barmes TTSX. This is the only bullet I use. they have never failed me. My choice 30-06 168gr TTSX
Do you like it in .308 ?
Yeah I’m looking into it for 308 also have you tried it?
liked your video on barnes bullets great analysis. I am not a reloader but barnes puts their load data on line free to the public, don't see that from the rest.
most of the rounds I load for do not have updated info on the LRX and TTSX online.
👍 right on DD.
I use the 556 70grain tsx loads on whitetail out of my AR. Put it high on their shoulder and they’ll drop 97% of the time.
Barnes bullets are extremely well suited for hunting Moose and Elk with magnum cartridges.
I've used the hollow point (tsx) for over 10 years 7STW ..
If you're killing its Barns!!
Hey, I am a believer, I started loading ttsx 120 gr Creedmoor. I didnt even see what was coming, I put 5 bullets through 1/2 inch at 100yds , IMR4350 40.5gr. Savage 10fcp 20in barrel. These things are accurate. Then I shot the same load through a 22in barrel savage and had almost the exact results. Shoots more consistant then GMX. I have been messing around with those too.
You know the twist rate on that thing?
@@foonus406 1/8 Also started loading 127gr LRX with Superformance, getting some good results. I thought i would see why this powder was less expensive, so far it has done well with this combo. And the rifle was 22in savage TH/10 with 1/8 and a boyds stock, no bedding.
Barnes hunting bullets are GREAT!! Accurate and deadly. Try to find a box of them, GOOD LUCK!!
I agree with your ethics trying to shoot deer or other big game at 800 plus yards is foolish and not really hunting. Plus your comments on internet bowl shitters is so true.
All of California in 2019 has to use lead free for hunting thanks for the video I ordered some lrx in 7mm and 270 we will see how they group I tried nosler etips and hornady gmx bullets they were terrible 6 inch groups at 100 yards like you I used the Accubond and would get 1 moa or less at 100 yards.. I sas very discouraged till I saw this video.
Barnes is from Utah a state that allows lead they created the 50 BMG and 1911 and all the browning guns as that’s another Utah company mormons engineer guns well and bullets
Duke, did you find a load for the 270? I have a good one that I get a .5 group at 100y with the Barnes tsx 135g, IMR4350, and Winchester primers.
Duke, used the saterlee method to find the right SD and wow great groups I think 48.5 grains is what I use. I can check if you want
Great bullet
Thanks for the videos. Very intelligent and informative!
How would you compare the LRX to the ELD-X, especially in the accuracy department?
Desertd Dog Outdoors: If you go to the Barnessbullets.com website they have updated and added a lot of new reloading info and added new cartridges including 6.5 Grendel/Creedmoor/Weatherby Mag, 7mm RUM, etc, Just go to their site and click on the Load Data at the top of the page. It includes the TSX/TTS/LRTSX ETC, . I really like the Barnes Bullets and have used them since 1998 with a deer load with the 185gr BT in my 338 Win Mag. Dropped South Dakota whitetail in their tracks and a huge porcupine DRT Great video BTW thanks.
The website still lacks new data on many calibers that I regularly shoot (example; LRX bullets in 300 H&H). LRX load data is still pretty limited. Not the end of the world, just wasted time and supplies finding a place to start safe load development.
I emailed Barnes and they stated the LRX is designed to expand down to 1600-1700 FPS. The TTSX, depending upon the caliber, is designed to expand at around the same velocity. So they have not been designed to expand at a lower velocity.
I have seen similar results as you have handloading the LRX.
I also shot the loaded 190 LRX 300 Win Mag ammo in my Browning BAR. I was very impressed, the ES was 20 FPS and SD less than 10. I thought that was impressive in a factory loaded ammo shot through a semi auto gun.
This has not been my experience. Firing into water jugs, both the TTSX and the LRX expand very little under 2000 fps, and get almost no expansion at 1800 fps.
Desert Dog Outdoors I think when they are saying they expand, they are counting a small expansion at the nose as expansion. So what you saw as little expansion might be what they consider expanding.
I’m also not sure how scientific water jugs are to compare how they test for expansion on ballistic gel or on game with hide and bones. Not saying it isn’t a good indicator, just not sure if it’s exactly apples to apples.
@@lancev7186 Very true.
Desert Dog Outdoors I just got back from a mule deer hunt in Montana. We shot a mule deer with a 175 gr LRX at about 430 yards line of sight from my .308 Win. The impact velocity would have been 2000 FPS and the bullet dropped him with a very solid shock. The exit hole looked like the bullet either expanded or tumbled - either way it did a lot of damage.
The shot was filmed so I’ll post it once I get the hunt compiled.
Now I'm looking to load up some 300 h&h for my brother's rifle look in the test out some different powders
After watching this video, checked Barnes web site and they're to come out with the Reloading Manual #5 in 2020 sometime!
that would be awesome!
I have had success with 223 the Barnes 70 grain TSX . On white Tail does at100 and less.
I was just given some 7mm TSX bullets and loaded them for heavy game. Waiting to see how they react.
I've used the ttsx in 30-06 it killed great but I wasn't getting the accuracy I wanted 1.5 inch groups at 100 was all I could get but I still used it and killed alot of hogs and deer out to 150 yards with little to no running great bullet for the average ethical hunter
Regarding the Barnes load data… I have observed a much better correlation between published velocity and actual tested velocities with hodgdon load data. Some of the velocities published in the barnes load data online are pretty outrageously high.
Thanks for the video dude. Love Barnes. Except for the 150 grn 30-30 bullets, those suck. Everything else they make, fantastic
Bought a full reloading setup from a feller that was trying to shoot 30-30 long range.. enough said.
@@foonus406 Oh my...
Unfortunately, barns need some velocity to work exceptionally. Try and shoot for a more solid part of the animal. Or get closer. That 30-30 loses energy fast due to that flat nose on the front.
@@blindboyjonny oh ya, I've shot 3 deer with the 150 grain 30-30s at less then 50 yards, with the rounds traveling just under 2300 fps. 2 deer took forever to find, and the 3rd I never recovered. All 3 where double lung shots, should have shot for shoulder
I picked the TSX bullet when lead bullets are banned in California. My first attempt with a 300+ lbs bear on the opening weekend of big game. It was a successful shot I took and the bear dropped down about 15 yards. But when I got to the bear, I noticed how clean the bullet exits the other side.
I had similar experience here in Australia on a Sambar deer. They are kind of like a smaller version of your elk. Shot broadside at about 100m with a 180gr tsx in 30-06, went double lung and it ran a short way and tipped over and died. The exit wound was pretty much the same as the entry which has me worried it behaved pretty much like a fmj. Did the job though and they are popular here
What I think about those bullets are more dangerous than the lead. Never know what is behind the target. It’s can go right through an animal but what if another game animal was behind it and get hit by the bullet? It’s going to be a wasted game.
You NEVER shoot an animal with another animal behind it! Also, shooting rule #3: Always know what is in front and behind your target.
Rick, I agreed with you. But still this bullet seems to be very dangerous like the full metal jacket versions.
@@nickgorman8625 I have been debating the blood trail thing myself.I understand if placed right he'll drop in his tracks but shot placement other than spine is key yes but due to the shock.Blown lungs and a destroyed heart don't drop them in their tracks.A heart blown in half can allow a deer to run 100 yds before dropping.
Just bought 225 grain tsx for my 338 win mag for a fall bear hunt!
That's a fantastic bullet
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 it's my first time using barnes been using 225 accubond but been thinking of trying them for years.
For the 458 Socom in AR 15s the 300gr TTSX is one of the preferred hunting rounds, due to its opening at lower velocities. I first started using Barnes when using the 400gr spire point for a practice duplicate of the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw 400. at 79.5 gr H335, and a CCI magnum primer, both shot just over 1 moa at 100 yards, and on a good day a bit tighter at 200 yards, running 2500 ish fps, a lot less recoil than the 500-510 gr round. The Barnes were less than half the cost of the TBBCs. This was before Jack Carter sold Trophy Bonded to Federal. He gave me that load from his load book, when I picked up my second box of bullets, that was a great visit with a man who had been there, and done that. The lower priced Barnes let me put close to 400 rounds down range from the bench to standing supported before my Safari in Chewore 1997.
Agreed
Good review, enjoyed it...but still love nosler partitions and A frames...but what I came away with if thank God there is only one state called California and maybe someday it will become the island federation of California.