I have taken everything from brown bear down in North America. All will the Nosler partition. Mostly in 338. NO FAILURES, NONE. ALL RECOVERED WERE PERFECT 👍..
I know that I'm preaching to the choir but I have found that the Nosler partition bullet has never failed me when I do my part! I started reloading at 16 yrs old and am now 69! Nosler bullets are twice the price of other bullets and well worth the extra expense! They are my absolute "Go TO" hunting bullet!
I've used the Nosler Partition bullet since the late 1970's. Shot elk, deer, musk ox, coyote, squirrel, etc with a 180 grain bullet. All kills with a .30-06 (and recently a .308) being one shot. Less meat damage and blood shot waste. Only recovered one bullet from an elk, on the opposite side of the shot at the hide, that was perfectly mushroomed.
@@robertcope9494 I am pretty sure there is a reload that calls for just a few grains of powder and 00 or 000 buckshot pellet for a nice quiet small game load. Probably do even better with .30 cal pellets made for big bore pellet rifles.
My reloading bench always has Nosler Partition bullets. My daughter has taken one shot kills at Michigan White-tailed deer with the 223 Remington cartridge. I reload Nosler 60 grain Partition bullets with H4895 powder out of a Thompson Center Encore 223 Remington 24 inch rifle barrel with a 1-12" rifling twist rate. I use Nosler's Partition bullets in the following cartridges. 223 Remington 60 grains 243 Winchester 85 & 100 grains 270 Winchester 150 grains 280 Ackley Improved 140 grains 338 Federal 210 grains 338-06 A-Square 210, 225 & 250 grains
You’re exactly correct in everything you said. A GOOD Hunter will try and get as close as possible to place a single well placed shot on the Game he’s hunting.
💯 Exactly 💯 👏 🙌 👌 damn well said! As close as i can get to a moose yeah! If i cant get a clean headshot, i dont want to use a chest shot, ruins good rib meat on moose but if it runs yeah no choice but to aim for the engine.I use a ironsighted Rem 700 BDL chambered for 30'06, I use accuracy loads specifically tailored to my rifle. Thats how serious I take my moose hunting as close i can get to make a 1 shot kill partition ammo is expensive but never let me down.
This is true depending on the terrain you’re hunting. For example, I’ve hunted mulies in heavy PJ country and shots inside 150 yards are the norm. I’ve also hunted mulies in the high country, as well as sage brush flats, and 300 yard shots are the norm.
Thanks man for your good down to earth advice. Here in N.Z there is so much obsession with B.C's & velocity. Long live common sense and Partition Points. All my hunting is at ranges under 400m. Nosler P Ps do the job and do it well. Hornady Eldx, Sst and Berger Vlds are too inconsistent . Tracking an injured animal in our thick undergrowth is damn hard enough. Bullets that kill quickly are what a hunter needs. Thanks for your experience. Keep sharing the good stuff.
I have been using Partition bullets for over 53 years. Nothing like it! I have seen too many bullets go through a animal, and the animals then runs.. With Partition, the animal stops in the tracks! Thank you for this episode! I am a hunter and not a target shooter! I dont care about a bullet that retains 90% weight... not important. The Partion puts the animal down! No need to look for the animals after they are shot!
You're spot-on with everything said here. The good old tried & true Partition is the best hunting bullet! Period!! Now if we could only find some to buy in February 2022! Two years of not being able to find the ammunition or bullets of your choice is getting old!
I can attest to what DD is saying I can still remember when my dad started using them when his friend at the mill he worked at was a part time gunsmith and told him about this guy in Ashland oregon had this new bullet that was supposed to make big difference in big game! My dads friend started reloading them for his pre64-308 and boy did my dad see a difference in elk especially! I still use them today over 60 years later for all my non magnum rifles
My nephew bought his first rifle and is in .30-06. I told him to use 180 grain Nosler Partition. On his first hunt ever (in Utah) he shot a bull elk at 400 yards. It took two shots and both passed completely through the body.
I've shot a lot of elk in my lifetime of hunting and I have never found any of the bullets I've used when I hunt with a 30-06. It didn't matter the range they all passed through and the animal was harvested and none escaped. I can't say the same thing for a 7mm mag. though. It turned out to be the worst caliber I ever hunted elk with. It's gone now cuz there was just to much bullet splatter and meat damage without downing the animal and then long hikes to finally catch the elk.
I've admittedly been caught up in tactical hype or latest and greatest type things over the years, but have recently come full circle to the things that are good for their own sake and not because marketing makes them so. The classic rifles and cartridges are still around because they're proven to work. It has been incredibly enjoyable and enlightening to watch, read and learn from sources like yourself or GunBlue. There are undoubtedly many more, but regardless I appreciate the content you create to help people like myself return to a grounded, more practical and common sense way of living. I am still young but am far behind those who grew up with influences such as yourself to guide them. All good things come in due time, and for me the time is here with all of the resources one could hope for.
I know this is an old video but this dude hit it on the head. I still rock a 1911 with gold dots for protection and my hunting rifle is a Winchester 70 Supergrade .308 launching Nosler Partition 150gr at about 2800 FPS. Just because something is “old” doesn’t make it stop working…
Well done everything you covered is true. The worst thing that ever happened in the hunting field was the release of the movie American Sniper. Once released every Elmer Fudd out there ran down the the gun shop and demanded a 2000 yd deer slayer. The bullet manufacturers and scope
I have used the partitions in my hunting rounds for over 35 years and love them.. but I have switched to the ttsx even though my state has no law against lead. I switched because the partition dumps a lot of lead in the animal and I don’t want my family and I to be eating it. I find out the distance the ttsx drops below 2300 fps and that is my limit to shoot because I want to be sure they open up. I hunt in the woods of the east so most shots are 150 yards or less. Your channel is awesome.. I love the way you cut through the bullshit out there and tell the truth. Stay safe and live free brother.
Mr Desert Dog, yes your video is interesting and informative - I can only say 'Amen' to everything you said in this video. Greetings and Best Wishes from SW Scotland.
Agree with you 100%. I have been shooting them for over 50 years. Still have a Nosler #1 loading manual. A trick I learned is to carry a piece of steel wool to keep the tips cleaned up. I use it like an old pencil sharpener. Just smooth them a little. Also I am a Hunter Ed instructor. I believe in and support ethical hunting distance. Learn to stalk. It takes much more skill to sneak up on an animal and harvest him at close distance.
Outstanding information. Bullet mfg's are just like golf ball mfg's. Always have to invent something new to keep the cash cow rolling in. I do not follow the hype especially when it leads to hunting game at extended (500+ yds) ranges. There is no place in the hunting world for this. Of course this is just my opinion.
Totally agree with your opinion about the hype for calibers that supposedly kill out to 900 yards. My 2506 has never failed me out to 400 yards on Texas whitetail, Wyoming pronghorn, feral hogs in texas, coyotes all over, and Texas exotics like axis & fallow deer. Good hunting ethics calls for the Hunter to pit his woodmanship & stalking skills against the animal being hunted and take shots at ethical ranges. The 120 grain nosler partition in my 2506 does the job at plenty far enough ranges.
@@davidcuriel4519 Have never owned a 25-06 but I have read about the killing power of that bullet for years. I think a 120gr bullet is so much better than the 100gr bullets of the 243. What kind of velocities is that 120gr advertised at or do you handload?
I totally agree. I lived in Alaska 7.5 years in the 90s . I hunted moose caribou and Dall sheep and had many friends that were hunters. Everybody I knew used nosler partition bullets. What I find very interesting is that there was never any discussion about what bullet to use. There were lots of discussion about rifle brands and what cartridge but the partition was the bullet period! Thanks for sharing
My son lives in AK. I hunt with him most years, he uses nothing but partition, I have made the mistake a few times of bringing up bullets I use on deer etc. and have had some bad bullet failures , I once shot a moose twice in the neck to finish it off with Remington bronze points, both shots failed to break his neck bone,
@@robertboyd3863 I would love to back up to AK moose is my favorite. Glad to hear you get to enjoy yourself with your son up there 👍. It's definitely a different world up there. Thanks for sharing
@@camel7355 Was only about 30 yards he had managed to regain his feet and I was finishing him off , I was using the old Remington bronze point bullets , they both blew up before being able to break his neck 300 win mag was the caliber,
I grew up in Wyoming hunting everything that walks out there. I started shooting Partitions because my father and grandfather used them. I've taken everything from Pronghorn to Elk with them. MANY animals and none of them which were fairly hit ever required more than one shot. I've used them in my .243Win, .270Win, .280Rem, .308Win and .300WM. Never had a bullet "fail" which I recovered. Not "sexy", not the highest BC(WAAAAAY Overrated in hunting applications) but very stout and does what it's supposed to do. Hit hard, drive deep and expand. Stay FAR away from many of these target bullets disguised as hunting bullets. You'll be disappointed. I've seen it first hand with some of the ELD's...Great for paper...junk for flesh.
100% spot on! Been shooting them since the 1960’s. Good hunters either stalk,scout and figure out how to set up well inside ethical shooting ranges. In addition, I take a piece of fine steel wool to clean up the points. They shoot amazingly accurate. In big guns with heavy recoil I shoot the PPT (Protected Points). I noticed the 115 Partition for 25 Cal. Out of a 257 Weatherby Magnum the BC is an irrelevant concern. My grandson shot his first whitetail Buck at about 145 yards with a 22-250 with 60 Grain Nosler Partitions. The meat processor is full of young men who shoot 300 Ultra Mags. When taking him apart they could not believe the entrance hole, wound channel, and exit hole. They were shocked to find out what he was shot with. These are some of my favorites: 22-250 - 60 Grain Partition loaded with CFE223 or Staball 6.5. 243 - 85 and 100 Partitions. Recommend giving RL 26 a test in the 243. 25-06 - 100 Grain Partition. H4350 or RL 22. 257 Weatherby - 115 Partition. RL 26 in the 3 I own produce velocities near the 100 grain factory loads. 264 Win Mag. 140 for tough game. 270 Win and 270 Weatherby Mag - 130’s and 150’s. 7mm 160 and 175 Partition. 175 is wonderful for elk. 308 and 30-06 -150 and 165’s. 300 Win & 300 Weatherby with 180 Partition 340 Weatherby - 225 Partition with RL 26. New life. With 150 to 200 FPS gain in velocity. 375 & 378 - 300 Grain Partition.
desert dog , I have used the 165 nosler partition in my old 30 06 and there is no better bullet , one rifle 1 bullet , thanks for the great vids keep em coming u da man !!!
desert dog how do you feel about nosler ballistic tips in 165 in 30 06 I can load them to 3.480 in my 06 and can achieve 3000 ft ps in the present rife with quarter inch groups consistently !! do you recommend this bullet for whitetail deer ? thank you bro
I purchased my first Nosler bullets in '65 at the Williams Gunsight Co. I loaded 165 grain Partitions for two friends going to Wyoming and still have a recovered bullet (with perfect Nosler expansion) from a bighorm ram. In my more modest hunts in the Upper Peninsula I used the Nosler 100 grain semi-spitzer bullet. These were the old screw machine bullets.
I love shooting all bullets at paper. But I learned a long time ago that the partition was the one to use on game! Great video as usual, keep up the good work and stay safe out in comi cali
A guy not afraid to chirp at some of the ya-hoos that make me shake my head ruefully. I used a 243 as a starting hunter. The 100 grain Hornady would fragment, so my dad loaded partitions and they worked great.
Years ago a friend of mine changed the disks on his field plow and gave me one of his old disks. Plowshare steel is very hard to stand up to abrasion and is similar to AR500. My friend and I decided to give the disk a bullet test and found that it stood up to everything we shot at it and other friends started bringing their magnum rifles to try to pierce the disk. The .300 Weatherby almost made it through, but just made cracks on the back. My friend was the first to penetrate it with his M1A1 with API ammo. I was the second one to penetrate the disk with a Nosler Partition out of my 7mm Rem Mag. No other 7 mm bullets that I had made it through or did any FMJ or other hunting bullet. I wish I still had that disk to try a TTSX on it.
Yep, I think the nosler partition is a great bullet. It along with the Remington core lokt are the only bullets I have ever used on whitetails here in south central Alabama. Always works for me. Thanks for your videos, there're interesting and informative.
@@WILDBOYZ Yes! I've only ever used Federal Fusion for 15 years, 150 grain in my .308 Win R700. Immediate expansion, deep penetration and near perfect weight retention. Deer, coyote, wolf and even big game like elk, moose and bears.
Tks for ur videos, allways informative and to the point, i have hunted in NWT and what i used in my 270BDL among others was nosler partition bullets and they allways delivered as long as i did my part, i live in Ontario now and with a variety of calibers i have used a lot of premium ammo by various manufacturers and i find for the 100 to 250 yard distances that I hunt my prefered bullets are Nosler Partition and Barnes for the longer shots. I did shoot some Caribou with 30 30 Nosler 170 gr and in closer ranges they allways worked very well, tks again for the great videos and info
When I started hunting 40 years ago it was the Nozler Partion and the Speer Grand Slam. I still have a box of 180 gr Grand Slam bullets....have not heard much about them for years.....both have similar design.
My very first bullet I hand loaded was a 100 gr Nosler partition bullets in my 243 win. Over 50 years ago. Living in Alaska and share this land with the Brown bears. I want a bullet with a proven track record. Thank you for this video. All my rifles are loaded with Nosler partition bullets. From the 223 up to my 350 Remington magnum.
As a long time partition user from age 12 and up, I am currently 68 years old, when the original partition came out it was made with a lead core and an outer jacket of swedge brass. The outer coating was not copper as designed by Mr. Nosler. In my opinion after shooting both bullets for many years the swedge the brass bullet was superior in penetration a knockdown power. For various reasons Mr. Nosler switch from swedged brass to a copper jacket, I believe this was done for several reasons 1. accuracy, 2. measured weight repeatability during production, 3. Cost of manufacturing, as the swedged bullet jacket and the actual bullet manufacturing process was a more time consuming and expensive process to produce the finished bullet. Just my thoughts from an old long time reloader, hunter and ethical sportsman...
If my memory serves me correctly the original Nosler projectile had a multi groove body. These bullets where dead 🥜 nuts accurate. About the mid 1970’s they hired some dumb ass university educated fool that eliminated the grooves making the bullet not accurate. It still performed for the most part but the knife edge accuracy was gone. I hope they fired that fool and sent him packing. To much education and no practical experience is a recipe for failure.
Hey just wanted to say good job with your videos. I have been hand loading and hunting for over 40 years. I have used a variety of different bullets. And yes you are absolutely right that bullet construction is key for hunting. As well as calibre and shot placement. High BC bullets are great for paper and steel and prairie dogs. I am getting tired of these long range hunting shows showing first time hunters taking animals at 700 plus yards. What they are not showing is all the misses and wounded animals that they don’t recover. I went a couple of days ago and was hitting steel at 420 yards and 750 yards and believe it 1100 yards. With the 160 Nosler and the 160 Swift Aframe With my 7mm rem mag 30 moa rail Leica Amplus 6 custom turret. But there is no way I would take a shot at an animal over 550 . To have enough velocity and energy for proper bullet performance. Besides the Big Game Animals deserve a quick one shot kill. We all need to be ethical hunters. Cheers
The Nosler Partition has been my go-to bullet for Elk and Mule Deer for many years, there may be better long range B.C. bullets out there, but so what, I've harvested 6 Elk and I don't know how many Deer, Never had to line up a shot more than a couple hundred yards max.
Good video. Yup, I have circled the wagon myself...lol. I would like to mention a couple other bullets that get no glamor but I know they they work. The Remington Core-Lokt and the Speer Hot Cor. No hype , no insane BC, or attention, but the terminal performance is there at a budget. When I was a kid starting out in the hunting world I didn't have a big budget. I was that one gun guy not by choice but real life budget. I bought a M700 in 30/06 and a box of Core-Lokt. When I started playing the hand-load game I started with the Speer book and a box of Hot Cors. Many guns and many loads latter.... I have not found anything better for general all round hunting then where I started years ago.
I have used the Partition for 30+ years great bullet. My son also uses them. I am going to switch us to monolithic bullets, either the E-Tip or TTSX, because oregon is monkey see monkey do with commiefornia.
Loaded some 200 grain Nosler partitions up in my 300 RUM for black bear hunting about a decade back. Poked a bullet sized hole in and out loaded at 3000 fps or hair over. They bear went a good 35 yards and expired after a good dozen death moans. When I skinned it there were pie plate sized holes in and out of its ribs! Tons of damage done on a 350 pound bear. I believe the the front of the projectile was thin enough to shed the front jacket apon impact causing that much damage on the entry ribs. Too bad they don’t group as tight as non premium cup and core bullets. Imo it’s the internal design that keeps them from shooting tight groups. I’ve tried every model of Barnes all copper bullets in several of my rifles with tons of ladder testing and several powders. The best I’ve ever got them to shoot was 1.5 MOA. The average 100 yard group with a Barnes for me is 3 to 4 MOA. Same guns will shoot .3” or better with blaaistic tips, Vmax, and cup/ core bullets. Imo the partition is great bullet for penatration for it boned and tough skinned game but for whitetail sized game it's not needed unless you using a smaller caliber like a 243 that you want to make sure you get bone braking performance and a passthough.
I agree totally with the fact that there is a difference between Target Shooting and Hunting, especially the Bullet Design for the such. The Partition is still the best All-Around Hunting Bullet because it will do the same job at close ranges and long ranges when Hunting, while being very Accurate And, by Long Range I mean out to about 500 Yards, with the right Cartridge (300 for some of the smaller cartridges) Shooting beyond that is not Hunting and has too many variables for a clean kill shot! This is one of your best videos with direct let them know the truth. :)
Thank You, you answered many of my questions, my son and I have claimed for years the partition was the best big game bullet, but with all the new hot shot bullets and bs about them, I wondered if it still was, I believe it still is, I have also had many bullet failures with Bronze points , Sierra game kings, sst's etc.
It’s interesting to see how similar bullet development was across the atlantic. Wilhelm Brenneke introduced his TIG in 1917 and his TUG in 1935. Both featured two lead cores, like the Partition, but unlike the Partition they are not separated by a copper wall and rather differ in hardness. Both are proven bullets to this day.
My 35 Whelen loaded with 250 grain partitions or 225 accubonds Is wonderful medicine for just about anything. The partition was a great design and is still dropping game reliably .
The closest I can get to a moose with my ironsighted Rem700 the better. Its chambered for 30'06, but backed up by hand-tailored Nosler Partition ammo custom to my rifle. I depend on these to fill my freezer for the year. Alot of people don't realize handloaded Nosler Partitions are deadly accurate when custom developed, and loaded to a specific rifle 😁 great vid!
The Partition was developed by John Nosler specifically for Moose Hunting! This is my ONLY choice for Alaskan Big Game! I read his story and it's a good one. In my Semi-hunter gatherer lifestyle, I depend on John's creation to cleanly take AK Bull Moose! I've successfully taken Bull Moose a few years with a clean headshots using 180 Accubond bullets and did the job when Partitions were no where to be found.
Agree, takes time to develop, you can get very small groups @100 using a leads led, I use .3 increments but 3 shot groups, then start messing with seating depth after i find the sweet spot. I use a Leopold quick release with a 3- 9 by 40, but i might upgrade to a 4 - 12 x 44 to develop loads, but these bullets are consistent. Good luck hunting!
I like your take on the Nosler Partition as I’ve been reloading with these for over 25 years. As well I see your view on the Barnes TTSX, which is my preferred mono bullet. I love them in my old Browning 7 RM.
Nice video. I agree and always start working up a hunting load with either the Nosler partition or the Barnes triple shocks and go with whichever bullet the rifle likes best. I do wish Nosler would look at putting a protective point on the partition so they don't bash so easily in the magazine. But even at that, a smashed lead tip doesn't seem to effect the accuracy much but I'm sure it doesn't do the BC any good.
Very nice information. I personally have never used a nosler partition in my area the local stores do not sell them but I’m sure it’s the best bullet to use for hunting
I have used a 30-06 with 165 gr Nosler Partitions for over 25 years and nearly every deer I have ever shot has dropped in its tracks. Only a few ran and they didn't get out of site. I am now switching to a .308 and can't find Nosler Partitions on the shelf. Will have to look at ordering them if I can find them.
One thing I’ve said before is a partition will give you the penetration of a heavy bonded core with the fragmentation and down range expansion of a ballistic tip style bullet, all in one.
Accuracy is VERY important obviously...but so is bullet performance. And when it comes to taking game (not punching paper) out to around 400 yards , it shouldn't be a secret that the Nosler Partition is King. Good video.
Sorry hit the wrong key. The scope industry followed suit and now we are all 2000 yard deer slayers. Long range shooting is for steel plates paper targets varmits. I tell people chose a bullet that will do the job at the range that is practical for,the specie being hunted. My hunting is dense bush. I use 45/70 450 Marlin 444 with Barnes hollow point design. Works well. I have used Nosler Partitions and they work very well. Most bullets like you stated are more concerned with B.C. That means more copper longer ogives and body. Useless for a practical hunting bullet.
Up here in Northern British Columbia, any animal that I harvest is put down with a 6.5x55 140 grain Partition or a .300 win mag 180 grain Partition. They just work.
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My opinion is this partition by Nosler is the best hunting bullet ever made and I’ve got proof! From Colorado 😊
Have been using Nosler Partitions in my .270 for years. It has never failed me.
Couldn't agree more with everything you said!
I think you may have the best hunting information/commentary channel on youtube.
I have taken everything from brown bear down in North America. All will the Nosler partition. Mostly in 338. NO FAILURES, NONE. ALL RECOVERED WERE PERFECT 👍..
I fully agree! Way to many people are falling in the "long range" hunting trap
Yes, yes and yes!
I know that I'm preaching to the choir but I have found that the Nosler partition bullet has never failed me when I do my part! I started reloading at 16 yrs old and am now 69! Nosler bullets are twice the price of other bullets and well worth the extra expense! They are my absolute "Go TO" hunting bullet!
I've used the Nosler Partition bullet since the late 1970's. Shot elk, deer, musk ox, coyote, squirrel, etc with a 180 grain bullet. All kills with a .30-06 (and recently a .308) being one shot. Less meat damage and blood shot waste. Only recovered one bullet from an elk, on the opposite side of the shot at the hide, that was perfectly mushroomed.
There had to of been all kinds of meat damage with a 180 grain Nosler Partition on them squirrels 🤣
Is your Squirrel load reduced?
@@anonymousf454 No :)
@@robertcope9494 lol...oh man, you know they are good eating if you cook em right...hahaha
@@robertcope9494 I am pretty sure there is a reload that calls for just a few grains of powder and 00 or 000 buckshot pellet for a nice quiet small game load. Probably do even better with .30 cal pellets made for big bore pellet rifles.
Thank you from Australia 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Sir, when you "get real", I totally agree. Great presentation!
My reloading bench always has Nosler Partition bullets. My daughter has taken one shot kills at Michigan White-tailed deer with the 223 Remington cartridge. I reload Nosler 60 grain Partition bullets with H4895 powder out of a Thompson Center Encore 223 Remington 24 inch rifle barrel with a 1-12" rifling twist rate.
I use Nosler's Partition bullets in the following cartridges.
223 Remington 60 grains
243 Winchester 85 & 100 grains
270 Winchester 150 grains
280 Ackley Improved 140 grains
338 Federal 210 grains
338-06 A-Square 210, 225 & 250 grains
You’re exactly correct in everything you said. A GOOD Hunter will try and get as close as possible to place a single well placed shot on the Game he’s hunting.
💯 Exactly 💯 👏 🙌 👌 damn well said! As close as i can get to a moose yeah! If i cant get a clean headshot, i dont want to use a chest shot, ruins good rib meat on moose but if it runs yeah no choice but to aim for the engine.I use a ironsighted Rem 700 BDL chambered for 30'06, I use accuracy loads specifically tailored to my rifle. Thats how serious I take my moose hunting as close i can get to make a 1 shot kill partition ammo is expensive but never let me down.
This is true depending on the terrain you’re hunting. For example, I’ve hunted mulies in heavy PJ country and shots inside 150 yards are the norm. I’ve also hunted mulies in the high country, as well as sage brush flats, and 300 yard shots are the norm.
Thanks man for your good down to earth advice. Here in N.Z there is so much obsession with B.C's & velocity. Long live common sense and Partition Points. All my hunting is at ranges under 400m. Nosler P Ps do the job and do it well. Hornady Eldx, Sst and Berger Vlds are too inconsistent . Tracking an injured animal in our thick undergrowth is damn hard enough. Bullets that kill quickly are what a hunter needs. Thanks for your experience. Keep sharing the good stuff.
Amen to what you said I have used the partition for 40 years and it does a great job on whitetail deer
I have been using Partition bullets for over 53 years. Nothing like it! I have seen too many bullets go through a animal, and the animals then runs.. With Partition, the animal stops in the tracks! Thank you for this episode! I am a hunter and not a target shooter! I dont care about a bullet that retains 90% weight... not important. The Partion puts the animal down! No need to look for the animals after they are shot!
It's all I shoot at game....Nosler Partitions.
Same here. You said it all.
Around the 7 minute point, you were speaking gospel and you drove the point home until the end of the video!
Fantastic video for REAL hunters!
You're spot-on with everything said here. The good old tried & true Partition is the best hunting bullet! Period!! Now if we could only find some to buy in February 2022! Two years of not being able to find the ammunition or bullets of your choice is getting old!
I can attest to what DD is saying I can still remember when my dad started using them when his friend at the mill he worked at was a part time gunsmith and told him about this guy in Ashland oregon had this new bullet that was supposed to make big difference in big game! My dads friend started reloading them for his pre64-308 and boy did my dad see a difference in elk especially! I still use them today over 60 years later for all my non magnum rifles
My nephew bought his first rifle and is in .30-06. I told him to use 180 grain Nosler Partition. On his first hunt ever (in Utah) he shot a bull elk at 400 yards. It took two shots and both passed completely through the body.
@John Beige those are garbage bullets.
You shot an elk at 400yds. That's why. You can't fire past the expansion threshold
I've shot a lot of elk in my lifetime of hunting and I have never found any of the bullets I've used when I hunt with a 30-06. It didn't matter the range they all passed through and the animal was harvested and none escaped. I can't say the same thing for a 7mm mag. though. It turned out to be the worst caliber I ever hunted elk with. It's gone now cuz there was just to much bullet splatter and meat damage without downing the animal and then long hikes to finally catch the elk.
@@russellkeeling4387 energy between the 2 are pretty similar, sounds more like the bullet used was the problem because of the higher velocity
My go to bullets in many calibers for nearly 50 yrs and dont see me changing that!!!!
I've admittedly been caught up in tactical hype or latest and greatest type things over the years, but have recently come full circle to the things that are good for their own sake and not because marketing makes them so. The classic rifles and cartridges are still around because they're proven to work. It has been incredibly enjoyable and enlightening to watch, read and learn from sources like yourself or GunBlue. There are undoubtedly many more, but regardless I appreciate the content you create to help people like myself return to a grounded, more practical and common sense way of living. I am still young but am far behind those who grew up with influences such as yourself to guide them. All good things come in due time, and for me the time is here with all of the resources one could hope for.
I know this is an old video but this dude hit it on the head. I still rock a 1911 with gold dots for protection and my hunting rifle is a Winchester 70 Supergrade .308 launching Nosler Partition 150gr at about 2800 FPS. Just because something is “old” doesn’t make it stop working…
My only complaint about your videos is.....
Every time i watch them my wallet gets thinner
All of these bullets look and talk so sexy... the partition has gotten the job done for me every-time.
Well done everything you covered is true. The worst thing that ever happened in the hunting field was the release of the movie American Sniper. Once released every Elmer Fudd out there ran down the the gun shop and demanded a 2000 yd deer slayer. The bullet manufacturers and scope
Truth !
My all time favorite hunting bullet that thankfully in my home state I can still use. Well done Desert Dog, could not agree more. 👍
It is pretty simple, the Partition will not fail on Game
I have used the partitions in my hunting rounds for over 35 years and love them.. but I have switched to the ttsx even though my state has no law against lead. I switched because the partition dumps a lot of lead in the animal and I don’t want my family and I to be eating it. I find out the distance the ttsx drops below 2300 fps and that is my limit to shoot because I want to be sure they open up. I hunt in the woods of the east so most shots are 150 yards or less. Your channel is awesome.. I love the way you cut through the bullshit out there and tell the truth. Stay safe and live free brother.
Mr Desert Dog, yes your video is interesting and informative - I can only say 'Amen' to everything you said in this video. Greetings and Best Wishes from SW Scotland.
Couldn't agree more. Brovo. I will be passing the video on to my buddies who are indeed of enlightening on the best ever hunting bullet. Thank you!
Agree with you 100%. I have been shooting them for over 50 years. Still have a Nosler #1 loading manual. A trick I learned is to carry a piece of steel wool to keep the tips cleaned up. I use it like an old pencil sharpener. Just smooth them a little.
Also I am a Hunter Ed instructor. I believe in and support ethical hunting distance. Learn to stalk. It takes much more skill to sneak up on an animal and harvest him at close distance.
Wth do shiny bullet tips have to do with anything?
@@workct4102 Go eat a handful of SOYbeans with your glass of whine.
Such an Informative Hunter! Great Information and No BS! Thank U.
I love this channel because it's rich with truthful information. THANKS
Outstanding information. Bullet mfg's are just like golf ball mfg's. Always have to invent something new to keep the cash cow rolling in. I do not follow the hype especially when it leads to hunting game at extended (500+ yds) ranges. There is no place in the hunting world for this. Of course this is just my opinion.
Totally agree with your opinion about the hype for calibers that supposedly kill out to 900 yards. My 2506 has never failed me out to 400 yards on Texas whitetail, Wyoming pronghorn, feral hogs in texas, coyotes all over, and Texas exotics like axis & fallow deer. Good hunting ethics calls for the Hunter to pit his woodmanship & stalking skills against the animal being hunted and take shots at ethical ranges. The 120 grain nosler partition in my 2506 does the job at plenty far enough ranges.
@@davidcuriel4519 Have never owned a 25-06 but I have read about the killing power of that bullet for years. I think a 120gr bullet is so much better than the 100gr bullets of the 243. What kind of velocities is that 120gr advertised at or do you handload?
Thanks for highlighting the ethics of sensible range and as we would say in the UK, stalking the game.
Agh..common sense. Love seeing good info like this being taught. Thank you sir.
I totally agree. I lived in Alaska 7.5 years in the 90s . I hunted moose caribou and Dall sheep and had many friends that were hunters. Everybody I knew used nosler partition bullets. What I find very interesting is that there was never any discussion about what bullet to use. There were lots of discussion about rifle brands and what cartridge but the partition was the bullet period! Thanks for sharing
My son lives in AK. I hunt with him most years, he uses nothing but partition, I have made the mistake a few times of bringing up bullets I use on deer etc. and have had some bad bullet failures , I once shot a moose twice in the neck to finish it off with Remington bronze points, both shots failed to break his neck bone,
@@robertboyd3863 I would love to back up to AK moose is my favorite. Glad to hear you get to enjoy yourself with your son up there 👍. It's definitely a different world up there. Thanks for sharing
@@robertboyd3863 Robert what cartridge were you using?
... You must have been pretty close also...
@@camel7355 Was only about 30 yards he had managed to regain his feet and I was finishing him off , I was using the old Remington bronze point bullets , they both blew up before being able to break his neck 300 win mag was the caliber,
I have spent a lot of money in different calibers and brands on bullets. Nothing beats a Nosler Partition on whitetail deer at 200 yards where I hunt.
I grew up in Wyoming hunting everything that walks out there. I started shooting Partitions because my father and grandfather used them. I've taken everything from Pronghorn to Elk with them. MANY animals and none of them which were fairly hit ever required more than one shot. I've used them in my .243Win, .270Win, .280Rem, .308Win and .300WM. Never had a bullet "fail" which I recovered. Not "sexy", not the highest BC(WAAAAAY Overrated in hunting applications) but very stout and does what it's supposed to do. Hit hard, drive deep and expand. Stay FAR away from many of these target bullets disguised as hunting bullets. You'll be disappointed. I've seen it first hand with some of the ELD's...Great for paper...junk for flesh.
I always had great luck the Nosler Partition. now since i cant use them CA. i use the Barnes or the Federal Trophy Copper . Always enjoy your channel.
I know. This is plinking ammo for me now....
Nosler bullets and Leopold scopes period. Trapper scotty, Alaskan
100% spot on! Been shooting them since the 1960’s. Good hunters either stalk,scout and figure out how to set up well inside ethical shooting ranges. In addition, I take a piece of fine steel wool to clean up the points. They shoot amazingly accurate. In big guns with heavy recoil I shoot the PPT (Protected Points). I noticed the 115 Partition for 25 Cal. Out of a 257 Weatherby Magnum the BC is an irrelevant concern. My grandson shot his first whitetail Buck at about 145 yards with a 22-250 with 60 Grain Nosler Partitions. The meat processor is full of young men who shoot 300 Ultra Mags. When taking him apart they could not believe the entrance hole, wound channel, and exit hole. They were shocked to find out what he was shot with.
These are some of my favorites:
22-250 - 60 Grain Partition loaded with CFE223 or Staball 6.5.
243 - 85 and 100 Partitions. Recommend giving RL 26 a test in the 243.
25-06 - 100 Grain Partition. H4350 or RL 22.
257 Weatherby - 115 Partition. RL 26 in the 3 I own produce velocities near the 100 grain factory loads.
264 Win Mag. 140 for tough game.
270 Win and 270 Weatherby Mag - 130’s and 150’s.
7mm 160 and 175 Partition. 175 is wonderful for elk.
308 and 30-06 -150 and 165’s.
300 Win & 300 Weatherby with 180 Partition
340 Weatherby - 225 Partition with RL 26. New life. With 150 to 200 FPS gain in velocity.
375 & 378 - 300 Grain Partition.
desert dog , I have used the 165 nosler partition in my old 30 06 and there is no better bullet , one rifle 1 bullet , thanks for the great vids keep em coming u da man !!!
desert dog how do you feel about nosler ballistic tips in 165 in 30 06 I can load them to 3.480 in my 06 and can achieve 3000 ft ps in the present rife with quarter inch groups consistently !! do you recommend this bullet for whitetail deer ? thank you bro
Hard combo to argue against.
I purchased my first Nosler bullets in '65 at the Williams Gunsight Co. I loaded 165 grain Partitions for two friends going to Wyoming and still have a recovered bullet (with perfect Nosler expansion) from a bighorm ram. In my more modest hunts in the Upper Peninsula I used the Nosler 100 grain semi-spitzer bullet. These were the old screw machine bullets.
The bullet that performs and will always perform if you're hunting animals on Earth. I'd add Norma Oryx to the legend.
I love shooting all bullets at paper. But I learned a long time ago that the partition was the one to use on game! Great video as usual, keep up the good work and stay safe out in comi cali
A guy not afraid to chirp at some of the ya-hoos that make me shake my head ruefully. I used a 243 as a starting hunter. The 100 grain Hornady would fragment, so my dad loaded partitions and they worked great.
Years ago a friend of mine changed the disks on his field plow and gave me one of his old disks. Plowshare steel is very hard to stand up to abrasion and is similar to AR500. My friend and I decided to give the disk a bullet test and found that it stood up to everything we shot at it and other friends started bringing their magnum rifles to try to pierce the disk. The .300 Weatherby almost made it through, but just made cracks on the back. My friend was the first to penetrate it with his M1A1 with API ammo. I was the second one to penetrate the disk with a Nosler Partition out of my 7mm Rem Mag. No other 7 mm bullets that I had made it through or did any FMJ or other hunting bullet. I wish I still had that disk to try a TTSX on it.
Hey I just got my hunting license and I’ve been watching a few of your videos, great information it seems like you know your stuff. keep it up!
dude, your perspective is exceptional 🇺🇸
Yep, I think the nosler partition is a great bullet. It along with the Remington core lokt are the only bullets I have ever used on whitetails here in south central Alabama. Always works for me. Thanks for your videos, there're interesting and informative.
The Federal Fusion are pretty good as well
@@WILDBOYZ Yes! I've only ever used Federal Fusion for 15 years, 150 grain in my .308 Win R700. Immediate expansion, deep penetration and near perfect weight retention. Deer, coyote, wolf and even big game like elk, moose and bears.
Wow its such a relief to hear an honest gun video on TH-cam
I like the long videos. I wouldn't mind an hour long video. I watched the whole reloading for beginners video.
Thank you very much! Very useful video! This is all the pure truth and without stupid advertising! Good luck!
Love your Channel, Thanks for the salt with the figures with special emphasis on ETHICAL HUNTING!
I could watch this video every day!
This channel is incredible. I love your discerning, straight-forward style. Great stuff!
Tks for ur videos, allways informative and to the point, i have hunted in NWT and what i used in my 270BDL among others was nosler partition bullets and they allways delivered as long as i did my part, i live in Ontario now and with a variety of calibers i have used a lot of premium ammo by various manufacturers and i find for the 100 to 250 yard distances that I hunt my prefered bullets are Nosler Partition and Barnes for the longer shots. I did shoot some Caribou with 30 30 Nosler 170 gr and in closer ranges they allways worked very well, tks again for the great videos and info
When I started hunting 40 years ago it was the Nozler Partion and the Speer Grand Slam. I still have a box of 180 gr Grand Slam bullets....have not heard much about them for years.....both have similar design.
I also had good luck with those Grand Slams
My very first bullet I hand loaded was a 100 gr Nosler partition bullets in my 243 win. Over 50 years ago. Living in Alaska and share this land with the Brown bears. I want a bullet with a proven track record. Thank you for this video. All my rifles are loaded with Nosler partition bullets. From the 223 up to my 350 Remington magnum.
I go with "Liberty or Death" ! Every time very competent informations.Thank´s.
As a long time partition user from age 12 and up, I am currently 68 years old, when the original partition came out it was made with a lead core and an outer jacket of swedge brass. The outer coating was not copper as designed by Mr. Nosler. In my opinion after shooting both bullets for many years the swedge the brass bullet was superior in penetration a knockdown power.
For various reasons Mr. Nosler switch from swedged brass to a copper jacket, I believe this was done for several reasons 1. accuracy, 2. measured weight repeatability during production, 3. Cost of manufacturing, as the swedged bullet jacket and the actual bullet manufacturing process was a more time consuming and expensive process to produce the finished bullet.
Just my thoughts from an old long time reloader, hunter and ethical sportsman...
If my memory serves me correctly the original Nosler projectile had a multi groove body. These bullets where dead 🥜 nuts accurate. About the mid 1970’s they hired some dumb ass university educated fool that eliminated the grooves making the bullet not accurate. It still performed for the most part but the knife edge accuracy was gone. I hope they fired that fool and sent him packing. To much education and no practical experience is a recipe for failure.
Preach it brother, amen. Love your channel good sir.
Hey just wanted to say good job with your videos.
I have been hand loading and hunting for over 40 years. I have used a variety of different bullets.
And yes you are absolutely right that bullet construction is key for hunting.
As well as calibre and shot placement.
High BC bullets are great for paper and steel and prairie dogs.
I am getting tired of these long range hunting shows showing first time hunters taking animals at 700 plus yards.
What they are not showing is all the misses and wounded animals that they don’t recover.
I went a couple of days ago and was hitting steel at 420 yards and 750 yards and believe it 1100 yards. With the 160 Nosler and the 160 Swift Aframe
With my 7mm rem mag
30 moa rail Leica Amplus 6 custom turret.
But there is no way I would take a shot at an animal over 550 . To have enough velocity and energy for proper bullet performance.
Besides the Big Game Animals deserve a quick one shot kill.
We all need to be ethical hunters.
Cheers
Great overview, good production - subscribed.
The Nosler Partition has been my go-to bullet for Elk and Mule Deer for many years, there may be better long range B.C. bullets out there, but so what, I've harvested 6 Elk and I don't know how many Deer, Never had to line up a shot more than a couple hundred yards max.
Great review brother....enjoyed a lot.
Good video. Yup, I have circled the wagon myself...lol. I would like to mention a couple other bullets that get no glamor but I know they they work. The Remington Core-Lokt and the Speer Hot Cor. No hype , no insane BC, or attention, but the terminal performance is there at a budget. When I was a kid starting out in the hunting world I didn't have a big budget. I was that one gun guy not by choice but real life budget. I bought a M700 in 30/06 and a box of Core-Lokt. When I started playing the hand-load game I started with the Speer book and a box of Hot Cors. Many guns and many loads latter.... I have not found anything better for general all round hunting then where I started years ago.
Thanks for this video! I couldn't agree more.
I have used the Partition for 30+ years great bullet. My son also uses them. I am going to switch us to monolithic bullets, either the E-Tip or TTSX, because oregon is monkey see monkey do with commiefornia.
Well done big fella always a great Video without all the Bulls#%@t many thanks from Australia.
I use the old partition in my old 30-06! Love them both!
Loaded some 200 grain Nosler partitions up in my 300 RUM for black bear hunting about a decade back. Poked a bullet sized hole in and out loaded at 3000 fps or hair over. They bear went a good 35 yards and expired after a good dozen death moans. When I skinned it there were pie plate sized holes in and out of its ribs! Tons of damage done on a 350 pound bear. I believe the the front of the projectile was thin enough to shed the front jacket apon impact causing that much damage on the entry ribs. Too bad they don’t group as tight as non premium cup and core bullets. Imo it’s the internal design that keeps them from shooting tight groups. I’ve tried every model of Barnes all copper bullets in several of my rifles with tons of ladder testing and several powders. The best I’ve ever got them to shoot was 1.5 MOA. The average 100 yard group with a Barnes for me is 3 to 4 MOA. Same guns will shoot .3” or better with blaaistic tips, Vmax, and cup/ core bullets. Imo the partition is great bullet for penatration for it boned and tough skinned game but for whitetail sized game it's not needed unless you using a smaller caliber like a 243 that you want to make sure you get bone braking performance and a passthough.
I agree totally with the fact that there is a difference between Target Shooting and Hunting, especially the Bullet Design for the such. The Partition is still the best All-Around Hunting Bullet because it will do the same job at close ranges and long ranges when Hunting, while being very Accurate And, by Long Range I mean out to about 500 Yards, with the right Cartridge (300 for some of the smaller cartridges) Shooting beyond that is not Hunting and has too many variables for a clean kill shot! This is one of your best videos with direct let them know the truth. :)
Excellent job in this video.
You should do a review on the trophy bonded bear claw too
Thank You, you answered many of my questions, my son and I have claimed for years the partition was the best big game bullet, but with all the new hot shot bullets and bs about them, I wondered if it still was, I believe it still is, I have also had many bullet failures with Bronze points , Sierra game kings, sst's etc.
It’s interesting to see how similar bullet development was across the atlantic. Wilhelm Brenneke introduced his TIG in 1917 and his TUG in 1935. Both featured two lead cores, like the Partition, but unlike the Partition they are not separated by a copper wall and rather differ in hardness. Both are proven bullets to this day.
Interesting 👍. Thanks
I’m glad someone has pointed out the fact that there was a properly constructed bullet available, let’s not forget about the H Mantle as well.
@@Paul-45-70 Good that you pointed the H-Mantel out! But I doubt that most of the German bullet types were available in the US.
Like John Nosler and Roy Weatherby…… they’ve been chasing both for a long time, just can’t surpass them with efficiency !
Awesome video
Very nice video👍🏻👍🏻
My 35 Whelen loaded with 250 grain partitions or 225 accubonds Is wonderful medicine for just about anything. The partition was a great design and is still dropping game reliably .
The closest I can get to a moose with my ironsighted Rem700 the better. Its chambered for 30'06, but backed up by hand-tailored Nosler Partition ammo custom to my rifle. I depend on these to fill my freezer for the year. Alot of people don't realize handloaded Nosler Partitions are deadly accurate when custom developed, and loaded to a specific rifle 😁 great vid!
The Partition was developed by John Nosler specifically for Moose Hunting! This is my ONLY choice for Alaskan Big Game! I read his story and it's a good one. In my Semi-hunter gatherer lifestyle, I depend on John's creation to cleanly take AK Bull Moose!
I've successfully taken Bull Moose a few years with a clean headshots using 180 Accubond bullets and did the job when Partitions were no where to be found.
High velocity caliber = bonded or monolithic bullet
Low velocity caliber = cup and core bullet
Don’t want to worry about bullet selection = Partition
I like the Norma oryx also
I agree. Putting a respectable accuracy load may take a little time, but partition well worth the patience. They deliver
Agree, takes time to develop, you can get very small groups @100 using a leads led, I use .3 increments but 3 shot groups, then start messing with seating depth after i find the sweet spot. I use a Leopold quick release with a 3- 9 by 40, but i might upgrade to a 4 - 12 x 44 to develop loads, but these bullets are consistent. Good luck hunting!
Good videos.
I like your take on the Nosler Partition as I’ve been reloading with these for over 25 years. As well I see your view on the Barnes TTSX, which is my preferred mono bullet. I love them in my old Browning 7 RM.
Nice video. I agree and always start working up a hunting load with either the Nosler partition or the Barnes triple shocks and go with whichever bullet the rifle likes best. I do wish Nosler would look at putting a protective point on the partition so they don't bash so easily in the magazine. But even at that, a smashed lead tip doesn't seem to effect the accuracy much but I'm sure it doesn't do the BC any good.
One thing if you buy a new Xbolt the mag is designed to prevent that .
Thanks for this story and info. Appreciated.
Thanks for the video. Well done.
Very nice information. I personally have never used a nosler partition in my area the local stores do not sell them but I’m sure it’s the best bullet to use for hunting
I have used a 30-06 with 165 gr Nosler Partitions for over 25 years and nearly every deer I have ever shot has dropped in its tracks. Only a few ran and they didn't get out of site. I am now switching to a .308 and can't find Nosler Partitions on the shelf. Will have to look at ordering them if I can find them.
Excellent information!
One thing I’ve said before is a partition will give you the penetration of a heavy bonded core with the fragmentation and down range expansion of a ballistic tip style bullet, all in one.
excellent video!
Accuracy is VERY important obviously...but so is bullet performance. And when it comes to taking game (not punching paper) out to around 400 yards , it shouldn't be a secret that the Nosler Partition is King. Good video.
A good quality match bullet works wonders.
Sorry hit the wrong key. The scope industry followed suit and now we are all 2000 yard deer slayers. Long range shooting is for steel plates paper targets varmits. I tell people chose a bullet that will do the job at the range that is practical for,the specie being hunted. My hunting is dense bush. I use 45/70 450 Marlin 444 with Barnes hollow point design. Works well. I have used Nosler Partitions and they work very well. Most bullets like you stated are more concerned with B.C. That means more copper longer ogives and body. Useless for a practical hunting bullet.
Up here in Northern British Columbia, any animal that I harvest is put down with a 6.5x55 140 grain Partition or a .300 win mag 180 grain Partition.
They just work.
Great combo!