I've been using this projectile in a 308 for three years for deer. Using TAC I get 3100 fps and it absolutely puts deer in the freezer with no tracking required. Of course that assumes it lands where it"s suposed to. Meat loss is minimal and theres no lead in my burger. My favorite bullet by far for deer hunting.
@@Lambert-hr7sm I would. I have been using this for 3 seasons as well and three deer later I'm sold. They all dropped where shot. Sako Finnlight w 20" barrel, 1 in 11 twist. I had been using 150 gr Barnes for 10 years before that and they always worked well. All shots less than 150 yds.
Thank you for making this video. I am excited about hunting with this bullet in .308. I am getting 2800fps out of an 18” barrel S&W M&P 10. using 48.2gr of Varget. That’s 1 grain below max advertised charge. The really exciting part (for me) is that I am getting 1/2” groups. I wish I could post a target pic. I really like watching you guys share your knowledge and expertise. Much appreciated.
@@davidrussell631 give it a go out of your rifle. Take a peek at the barnes reloading data. Rooting for success. Enjoy the test from your rifle. Please lemme know how it goes.
@@milo555100 already bought some H4831sc for my 270 win but was leaning towards Varget for the short barrel 308. Im definitely sold on the Barnes. Been shooting 45 cal copper monolithics in sabots in my muzzleloader for most of 20 years now.
We have used this bullet to take several hundred Roe and Red deer in the .308 @3000fps and also the .300WSM @ 3600fps. At speeds under 3400fps the bullet retains weight well but over 3400fps the petals will shed and meat damage can become much more severe. We concluded that the 150 grain TTSX is a much better fit in to 300WSM and the 130 grain TTSX better in the .308 Win
I would love to see a comparison test between the TTSX/LRX and the CX bullet in ballistics gel, AND at ~1800-2000 fps. You could either create underpowered loads, or shoot the ballistics gel at 400-500 yards lol.
I have used the 130 TTSX in .308W @ 3000 fps. Tight group and 1 frontal shot on deer sheared every rib at the spine and the bullet lodged in the pelvis. The deer did not lift a leg - just dropped. In my 30-06 using W748, the precision of group is excellent, but I have not hunted this round yet. Great presentation.
I run the 130 ttsx in my 300 rum. The nosler 125 ballistic tip and the 125 accubonds run very well also. I use imr 4350 at 92 grains gives me 3600fps with the 130 ttsx, and 3800fps with the 125 noslers. Awesome western Oklahoma long range whitetail and coyote rounds. Longest kill on deer was 688 yards, witnessed with the 125 ballistic tip.
I have been using 130 grain ttsx bullets in my 270 Winchester with great results for the last 6-7 years. Black tail deer and black bears. They seem to do less blood shot damage as well. I use Hodgdon 100V powder with awesome results. Thanks for the good insight. Great video!!!
I love this bullet in my .30-06 for whitetail at all ranges. WIN 760 @ 3000 +/- fps is a very accurate load. One shot has never failed to drop Georgia whitetails in their tracks.
These bullets are extremely accurate. I shot under .5 MOA with a 110 grain TTSX out of my 270 wsm. I plan to develop a new load for my 300 win mag using 175 grain LRX bullets.
Shooting 130 ttsx out of my ruger scout rifle at 16.1 inch at 2930 with varget and 1 moa at 100 with forward Mount 2x7 Burris Scout Scope. Will be hunting with this this fall during deer season.
I have been shooting the 165gr TTSX in my 30-06 for ten years. I get a chrono verified average of 3000 fps across five shots. That's with a 23" barrel. Accuracy has been amazing as well. My 7 mag with 160's barely exceeds my 30-06. By the way, I zero mine at 230 yards. For elk, I can hold on the fur out 400 yards.
There are a lot of 7mag guys out there making it happen since 1969 or whatever, but the venerable '06 has been the greatest thing since chopsticks. In the right hands, it will remove the fingerprints.
I appreciate you posting this. I saw a node that averaged 3073 fps with the 168 gr TTSX in my 22" Savage 110 30-06. This made me a little nervous that it was a bit too high, even though I wasn't getting pressure signs. I've been seeing enough posts similar to yours and a response that I got from Barnes that has me rethinking that this might be a better load than the lighter one I was leaning towards. I'm doing more testing with the load, but appreciate knowing 3000+ fps isn't unheard of with these.
@@lazydragonslayer I'm using imr 4350. I'm reluctant to post the charge I found, but it was still a couple percentage points below Barnes published maximum.
Nice channel with alot of knowlege, thank you guys:) I have used Barnes Ttsx in 30-06 130 grain, 300 win mag 165 grain and 250 grain in 9,3x62. One of the best bullets I have ever used. Max range so far has been 267 meters on Moose with the 9,3x62 in the boiler and it dropt on the spot after standing still for 15 sec. Inside of that range I have used both 30 cal and the 9,3 on deer, doe, moose and fox with same results, No tracking and everything on the ground inside of 20 meters from impact-.place. The load I have for the 30-06, with the 130 grain is the most accurate bullet/load I have ever tried. In my old Mauser M98, made in 1937, of cours upgraded since then and with the 3rd barrel since I bought it. I can put 3 shots inside of a bottle-cap at 100 meters. So I am not looking for alternativ:) Greetings from Norway/Finnmark
Have been using the 80gr TTSX in my 243 here in South Africa very successfully on Kudu and smaller plains game. Have never recovered a bullet - all pass throughs
My favorite caliber and exact bullet I use on whitetails every year. Never a tracking job! Very cool to see someone else getting success from something I swear by and something many guys say is "too small" for what we hunt 😂. Thank you for sharing that information! Take care.
I played around with the 130gr tts in 300 win mag. Got 3600 fps. Also ran 110gr tsx at 3900 fps. Also ran 95gr ttsx in my 270 wsm at 3750. My oldest boy killed deer with all of these. You talking wicked when it hits. Hits like thors hammer.
I've been using the Barnes 130 gr. TTSX in the 308 Win., 30/06 Sprg., and 300 Weatherby for years. In conjunction with a Lee Factory Crimp Die for the appropriate cartridge; crimped to the foremost relief groove for a l-l-long jump to the lands as Barnes recommends. Superb accuracy and terminal performance. Red Deer, Oryx, Eland, Blue Wildebeest literally drop in their tracks. Yes, I often don't get complete penetration, so I recover alot of bullets and they all look similar to the Barnes advertisements.
*I am not using it.... yet. However, since it did not fracture, fragment or break apart... at full 30-06 speed and extremely short distance... I just might. Thank you for making me aware of how solid this little bullet really is.*
Might need to try these. GS custom bullets had this figured out for years. I might need to try these 130's in my 06. Had been using 125 NBT with N540 VV 60.2g running at about 3200 FPS.
I inherited my grandpa's U.S. model 1917 win. 30-06 that he had in the Korean war and Vietnam war...... After he was done with service, he used it for deer hunting for few years until he retired it.... I never shot it yet.... Pretty cool gun and piece of history..
My first deer rifle was a Model 1917, made by Winchester. It had the full 26 inch barrel and pop up rear military long range peep sights. Out to 1700 yards. That was a very accurate rifle. Being a world war one production era weapon, in bolt action, I would imagine that, especially in Vietnam, it was probably used as a sniper rifle. I know they had a real deficiency of these weapons in theater..
I've found that they penetrate more the further you shoot an animal with them. I've put this down to less expansion slowing them down? Would be an interesting test to down load and shoot the gel block. The only Barnes I ever recovered from a deer was the closest deer I ever shot.
Definitely do some bullet and powder testing with the .300 Win Mag! That would be helpful to get more test info from different sources to enlarge the data pool.
I use TTSX bullets in my 6mm Rem, 257 Roberts and 6.5 swede and have had consistent one shot kills on Fallow and reds. My favourite bullet. I also love the Norma Oryx.
Hunted Alabama deer with that exact load in 30-06 Sako. Excellent accuracy. 2 deer both thru shoulder. Ran 30 ft and expired within 15ft of each other. Hunt done in 30 minutes. Bullets not recovered. Couldn't chance deer running into swampy terrain. Have shot bull elk @300yds with 165gr solid copper. Bull dropped within 75ft one shot. Weatherby had factory 300wby load with 130ttsx a few years back. Barnes website showed harvested bull elk with that load
Very interesting conversation. I've been using Barnes for ten years and have always been impressed. On plains game and buffalo in Africa, wild boar and larger deer here in the UK they have performed faultlessly. The only reservation I have is concerned with their use on smaller deer (muntjac, Chinese water deer and even roe) where they have not always expanded sufficiently to leave a significant wound channel. I had a client hunting with me had to shoot a roe buck twice (both lung shots) before the animal went down. On examination of the carcass we found four holes all of identical size. Animal was at 140yds and bullet was 85g ttsx in .243. Having said that, I would stress that everything else I've shot or seen shot with Barnes has been killed very effectively.
I been using the 180 TSX in my .300 WM since they came out. Devastating! Deer, elk and black bear. All dropped within feet of bullet impact if not in their tracks
Good on ya man! You have the powder to push that 180 gr out there and still have good penetration and expansion! I've studied calibers and their optimum bullet weights for about 40 years. The 180gr in the 300 WM is a dead ringer!
Another advantage with light bullets in 30 caliber is significantly reduced recoil. As long as one keeps aware of reasonable range limitations I have ALWAYS liked the lighter bullets because of their flatness at reasonable mid-range distances.
@@NorthRiverGuide I probably didn't make my point as clear as I could have. I meant to emphasize the ADVANTAGE one can get with lighter bullets at closer ranges, because of velocity vs the advantage found with heavier bullets at longer ranges because of their BC. One can often shoot flatter with a lighter bullet up to 400 yards vs a heavier bullet which will have less drop at 600 yards. There's crossover: lighter bullets are flatter under 400 yards or so while heavier bullets will be flatter as you get into longer ranges.
I always get better consistency with barnes bullets. Many times I've been struggling to tune load with a cup and core, so I start over with a barnes and its like night and day. Now I just start with Barnes all the time. Also Ive had great results with the TSX, TTSX, & LRX as far as accuracy goes.
130 in 12” 308 for nighttime hog hunting as well as the 110’s out of a 300 blackout for hog and deer. Barnes bullets are some of the best for taking game in my opinion.
@@nickleback3695 just because one person isn’t competent to make a +400 yard shot doesn’t mean others aren’t. Western hunters routinely make shot at that distance and beyond. 30.06 is more than capable of effectively killing well beyond 400 yards. You just have to select a proper bullet.
I've tried various weight bullets in the 30-06 over the past 50 years, but my preference runs towards the 180 gr weight. I have had very good performance with the barnes 180 gr TTSX bullets on game from pronghorn antelope to moose.
I loaded 200 grain TTSX for my friends 0.375 H/H we have not shot them yet as he has injered hi shoulder, I am looking forward to getting to the range after he recovers from surgery, Saying hi from New Zealand.
My howa 300win loves the 168gr from their preloaded line, but seems happy with anything really! My dad liked the old hypersonic federal branded barnes in his 7mm and 270win (110gr), those push 3500fps from factory loads. Shooting those at 700yds next to my 300win with 200 eldx one day, it was like he had a laser and I was bow an arrow watching vapor trails. I still have a few boxes of the 130ttsx in 300win too!
I push the 150gr TTSX to just a hair under 2900fps out of my friends Savage .308 with a 18" barrel using AR-Comp. It had consistent 1.25ish MOA accuracy with every powder charge I tried, so I just went for velocity. No pressure signs at all.
I really like these videos with Guy, especially the ones where hes on his own. That was really cool seeing that old A3 featured as well. I love some old war horse rifles. Ive got a 1919 Spanish Mauser in 7X57 and two German 8MMs that Im about to start reloading for.
Way back in the 1930's, a couple of known deer hunters did alot of experiments with different projectiles in different weights in this caliber, an found back then that 130 gr bullets were the poison for deer, can't remember who they were, but I'm sure it can be found on the net somewhere. Thx for the vid Gavin
I've seen several big bull elk taken with 30 06 in 130 and 150 barnes. I also know of an Eiland taken with a 130 in Zambezi with one shot from 500ish yards. And from a meat stand point the bullet not exploding jeeps gunshot to a minimum. Boys the all copper is the only thing out there that holds a candle to the partitions.
300 Win Mag… yes! Go for it! I loaded up 150gr barnes TTSX in 300WM at 3320fps with IMR4350. A real hum dinger of a flat shooting deer round with an 8” diameter kill zone MPBR to 367yd.
I once finished off a previously-wounded (by someone else), whitetail buck with a 130 TTSX handload in my 24-inch barreled .30-06 700 Remington Mountain Rifle at 3000-plus fps. It was facing away from me in heavy cover, and I had to take a rear-end shot to put it down. That little bullet entered a ham, penetrated through the entire animal, exited the ribcage by following the spine up the neck and it lodged into the base of the skull. ( A lightning bolt wouldn't have ended that unfortunate situation any faster.) Bullet ended up a perfect, four-petal mushroom that still weighed 128 grains after I dug it out. For deer I have since upped the velocity ante to the 110 TTSX at 3400-something fps, but have never recovered a bullet so far. The deer always drop in their tracks with a 1-1/2-inch exit hole on broadside shots and a fan-shaped spray onto the offside landscape. (Broadside or quartering ribcage hits only so far). Now to be clear, I wouldn't choose that particular 110 gr. bullet for elk, but if I had to, I'd take broadside ribcage shots, avoiding shoulder bone, with complete confidence. It will hold together and it will penetrate in a straight line. I just wouldn't ask it to bust an elk's shoulder bones, nor to rake the body on a severely-angled quartering shot. But broadside elk ribcage hits out to perhaps 300 yards? No problem if that was the only bullet I had with me. I'd just take great care to place my shot perfectly, again to avoid the shoulder bones. A 165 or 180 TTSX would be a better choice for general elk hunting and would definitely smash even those bones. Barnes makes fantastic hunting bullets.
Minor correction to my story above: the bullet I finished that wounded buck with, was actually the older blue coated Barnes 130 XLC, not the polymer-tipped TTSX version. While I doubt that the minor difference would have mattered much in the final outcome, accurate details matter...
This would’ve an exceptional bullet choice for hunting purposes in the 30-TC. Really thought this cartridge would see some kind of resurrection with the popularity of its offspring the 6.5 Creedmoor but then again there’s nothing the 30-TC can do the 30-06 cant. Thanks for the content guys good stuff!
I have killed deer for many many years with Barnes XLC’s , X bullets and TTSX’s , they do very well. Last kill with them was 100 grain TTSX out of hand loaded 6.5 rem mag ( fps I can’t remember but speed was cooking,… broke a 1-1/2” out of front rib , liquified lungs , penetrated all the way into rear thigh muscle and was embedded next to outside skin and could be felt on outside of deer. Fantastic penetration,… traveled about 3.5 feet easily thru meat and bone
My father and I have been using 125-135gr bullets since the middle 60's. They are deer stoppers. Not greatest 500yd bullets but anything under that flattens them.
For reloaders, if you like the 300 win mag, then you should love the 300 short mag, almost identical performances with less powder. And shorter action means lighter rifle
I wont hunt with any other projectile/ammo!... If you do the 300 WM or 300 PRC, you have to shoot the 180 grain TTSX in the WM and the 208 LRX or 212 bore rider in the PRC.
I had a Rem 03-A3 dated Aug, 1944. It was sporterized with 24" 2 groove. 150 fmj's .75 at 100. It had Lyman peep sight. Had a broken stock at the grip that someone kinda sorta fixed. 30-06 is the GOAT
The 115s are my goto in Grendel. My Howa mini carbon stalker shoots in the 4s and do the work on whitetails. My daughter took her first deer on opening day with it.
@Mr @Mr I haven't sent any across my chrono, but I am above published load data(start lower and work up). Barnes gives the max for RL 15 as 27.0 and I am in the upper 27s. I would estimate 2500 fps. I have a Grendel AR and I would not shoot these powder charges in it. Jump distance has been important for coppers in several different guns for me. Start around 50 thousandths. My Howa ended up liking a little less than that, but my .308 Abolt liked 100 thousandths.
In my 30-06 with 22-inch barrel and 1:11 Twist, I loaded Varget 54.00 grains with this bullet, I am getting avg 3100 fps, good enough for me for elk at 300 yards.
I have used 3 different monolithic bullets out of my 30-06 with excellent accuracy 150 grain GS high velocity bullet 165 grain Frontier Spartan and the original Barnes X bullet all with excellent results on African game shot some Bluewildebeest Kudu and a Zebra with the 165 bullet all was down with one shot
I use barnes bullets in every caliber I own but one because when the gun goes boom the deer flop to the ground 95 percent of the time! I had one go 10yds one time! 130 barnes our of my 308 and 300savage, 165 out of 06, 200gr out 35whelen, 200gr, 250gr & 275gr out 450 bushmaster and 150gr for my wife's 3030!
Really like this idea of deep diving into the different rounds... I live in Namibia and do allot of plains game hunting would like to see more info for the 30-06 but more in the 165gr -180gr bullets.
Armin, a 180 grain Swift Scirocco over IMR4350 has done well for me on plains game up to & including blue wildebeest, as well as elk and whitetail here in the States. It's a modest load at 2,600 fps, but penetration, accuracy, and bullet weight retention are superb. Very easy to work up a load too. Waidmansheil!
Barnes in the 130 for the 06. What folks fail to realize what u normally use the solid is tougher bullet so lighter and tipped lrx in 130 in the 06 would work
Sorry to say that I discovered this combo in 2012 as I live in CA and we were facing a change to lead free ammo in the next couple of years. I decided to get a jump start on the changeover and started working up loads for my .300 Svages bout on Remington 722 platforms and Savage 99’s. Along the way I ended up with a very accurate load for all the rifles that differed in charge weight of only .3 grains and 67 FPS. The Remington 722 has a 22” barrel and fired the 130gr TTSX at 2761 FPS and the savages with the 24”barrels fired the 130gr at 2829FPS. Along the way I really started thinking about what it would in a .308 and the 30-06. Especially the 30-06 for Speed Goats (Antelope) at distance on the High Plains around Juniper, Idaho out to about 500 yards. I personally like Varget powder for the 30-06 with the TTSX and 3031 for the .300 Savage. In .308 both seem to be pretty close to each other and I know the powder weights for both so I go with what I have the most of at the moment. The 130gr TTSX preformed so close to a 150gr bonded premium or cup and core bullet that I do not miss the heavier bullet for deer and Speed Goats. The big advantage is that the bullet holds together very well and I have never had one fragment at all. Retained weight for every bullet I have recovered has been 124gr or better. The best thing is that out of my 30-06 I a getting 3127 fps and accuracy is very good preforming better than most match bullets. One thing about the monolithic bullets is that for best accuracy they need a clean barrel free from ANY COPER DEPOSITS from any other bullets. Jacketed bullets and lead bullets will drastically open up groups to as muck 2 inches after shooting as few as two bullets! Why? I have no idea but this was the hardest thing to figure out over the years is why you could shoot such great groups when testing ammo and than shoot the same load in the same rifle and get such poor results after shooting other types of ammo. This is the one down side to the TSX and the TTSX bullets. They need a barrel that is factory new or cleaned and all copper remover from the barrel prior to shooting. You can shoot other types of anno after the TTSX but not the other way around. I uss nothing but the Barnes TSX and TTSX up to 180 gr and the well outperform their weight class. I have seen a constant 3/4 MOA rifle with Barnes TTSX bullets shoot as
I’m curious to see how it does in the 300 win mag. I’ve looked at these bullets for my 300 wsm for whitetail hunting. 3600fps with staball or superformance would be pretty mean
I first heard about using a 130 gr tsx on big game when I read an article where they were trying it in a 300 weatherby. They were getting about 3750 fps, to the best of my recollection, and took it to africa where they tried it on game ranging from very small to elk size with good results on all. They said it exploded jackels, and acheived good penetration on elk sized game but with more shock effect. I don't have a 300 weatherby but tried 85 gr in 243 and 110 in 270. My results were not as impressive as they reported, but they worked fine, and I would like to experiment more with light barnes bullets in other calibers.
First and formost, even the mention of .300 savage in a video makes me happy. Not a common one. Would love to see some 300WM content. I am currently using a savage 110 action with custom barrel and stock for competition. Would love to see how you set up a 300WM from scratch as I see alot of info online about variations in headspace procedures as well as comparisons directly to 300PRC. I belive based on current results I will be sticking with the 300WM for at least a barrel or two. Then I aill step down and play with a 300 savage for fun ;)
Nice bullet! Gonna get some! Keep your 300 prc. We already know it has the advantage with its long throat for long bullets... ...and 8mm mauser... AND 6.5 x 55 Swede... AND 7.5 Swiss, Carcano, etc, etc... 👍
Gavin I have all the older rifle’s mentioned Arisaka T99, G98, MAS-36, Garand, Enfield and even fin m38 that could be used for shoot out. The comparisons alone between the fin m38 and mosin nagant would be interesting. We travel alot, besides shipping is an option with C&R. Happy to lend them.
This is a cool experiment! I don’t think the 150 grain TTSX trajectory or velocity will be different enough over 4-500 yards to choose the 130 over it though, due to the 150’s higher BC. I still like the 180s, although I really want to move towards the 175 grain LRX.
I have been using this bullet in 308 for hog hunting since they came out. Before that, I used the non tipped version. I run them in a Mega Arms AR-10 308 with an 18-inch JP Super Match barrel. I'm getting 2,887 FPS with Viht N135. Consistently getting sub 1/2 inch groups from this paring. My Bergara HMR has printed several 3 round groups under .3 with the exact same round. As for performance on game, I have shot dozens of hogs, and the results are devastating. You get both the damage from the hydrostatic shock due to the velocity and deep penentration. I was also able to achieve velocities up to 3,200 FPS in a 20-inch barrel with Winchester 748 but accuracy was not acceptable to me. Nothing better for hunting in my opinion.
@@bigjimmy6690 thanks man! I will need to find some N135. I have a pound of N140 I just bought 😫 That’s a nice group. I’m trying to develop an accurate load for pig hunting too. Thanks again for the quick response!
I have a load worked up for my .308 with 150 gr. TSX that is going 3023 in front of R15 powder. Shoots half inch groups at 100 yards. I also have a partial load worked up a load with TTSX but never finished it. I got to playing with other loads.
I use the 130gr TTSX in a 30-40 Krag, Ruger #3. The powder is H380 and WMRL primers. It’s a great set up and good out to 400yds on big game if I hand to push it that far.
I have some .243 ttsx bullets to load up some 6mm arc.. I just haven’t got around to do some loading, that would be a cool load ! I would like to see what that does!
I shoot the 130gr TTSX in 308 Win. Tikka T3 with 50.0gr of Varget. 3100fps and half MOA groups. It has taken a few deer and 3 elk. Each time the animal has died within 50yds of being shot, majority are bang flops. Have yet to recover a bullet.
Just worked up a 30-06 load with this bullet and IMR 4064. With my 26in barrel I'm seeing over 3400fps on a near max charge and tiny little groups. Insane.
I also have a Remington made 1903A3. Mine was an American Legion parade gun, so it was reparkerized and the stock got some layers of varnish and a lot of care.
I've been using this projectile in a 308 for three years for deer. Using TAC I get 3100 fps and it absolutely puts deer in the freezer with no tracking required. Of course that assumes it lands where it"s suposed to. Meat loss is minimal and theres no lead in my burger. My favorite bullet by far for deer hunting.
What’s your barrel length?
@@tonywize5104 It's 22 inches.
Would you recommend the 130gr for black bear as well?
@@Lambert-hr7sm I would. I have been using this for 3 seasons as well and three deer later I'm sold. They all dropped where shot. Sako Finnlight w 20" barrel, 1 in 11 twist. I had been using 150 gr Barnes for 10 years before that and they always worked well. All shots less than 150 yds.
I was thinking that when I saw the video name. I'm like big deal I get all 3000 fps from 308 with 130s
I have 5 o3's. I was thrilled to see you use it to test. Your channel just gets better Gavin.
Right on! I was thrilled too!
Thanks, I love that old 03-A3 Springfield.
That energy dump in the gel block was amazing!
It was pretty doggone impressive in person. I shot, and that gel block jumped! :)
I just loaded up 40 more of these 130 grain Barnes TTSX bullets for my 30-06. Hopefully I'll get to take game with them this season.
Thank you for making this video. I am excited about hunting with this bullet in .308. I am getting 2800fps out of an 18” barrel S&W M&P 10. using 48.2gr of Varget. That’s 1 grain below max advertised charge. The really exciting part (for me) is that I am getting 1/2” groups. I wish I could post a target pic. I really like watching you guys share your knowledge and expertise. Much appreciated.
I’m just now getting into reloading and one of my rifles is my Ruger 308 with a short 18” barrel so thanks for sharing!
@@davidrussell631 give it a go out of your rifle. Take a peek at the barnes reloading data. Rooting for success. Enjoy the test from your rifle. Please lemme know how it goes.
@@milo555100 already bought some H4831sc for my 270 win but was leaning towards Varget for the short barrel 308. Im definitely sold on the Barnes. Been shooting 45 cal copper monolithics in sabots in my muzzleloader for most of 20 years now.
We have used this bullet to take several hundred Roe and Red deer in the .308 @3000fps and also the .300WSM @ 3600fps. At speeds under 3400fps the bullet retains weight well but over 3400fps the petals will shed and meat damage can become much more severe. We concluded that the 150 grain TTSX is a much better fit in to 300WSM and the 130 grain TTSX better in the .308 Win
Good info, thank you. That's a lot of Roe & Red deer! :)
I agree. I use the 150gr TTSX and 168gr TTSX from the 300 WSM and 300 WBY. The 150gr TTSX first well in the short WSM case and shorter box.
I have been loading the 150 gn TTSX in the 30-06 and it is great! Previously I was shooting 165 gn cup and core and this is an improvement.
I would love to see a comparison test between the TTSX/LRX and the CX bullet in ballistics gel, AND at ~1800-2000 fps. You could either create underpowered loads, or shoot the ballistics gel at 400-500 yards lol.
Would love to see this!
I’ll second that
Simpel mind fella here on TH-cam do just that.
Test different bullets in low to high speed
This would be awesome. I'm currently trying to figure this same thing out with my 308 and 7 rem mag.
This would be awesome to see.
I have used the 130 TTSX in .308W @ 3000 fps. Tight group and 1 frontal shot on deer sheared every rib at the spine and the bullet lodged in the pelvis. The deer did not lift a leg - just dropped. In my 30-06 using W748, the precision of group is excellent, but I have not hunted this round yet. Great presentation.
I run the 130 ttsx in my 300 rum. The nosler 125 ballistic tip and the 125 accubonds run very well also. I use imr 4350 at 92 grains gives me 3600fps with the 130 ttsx, and 3800fps with the 125 noslers. Awesome western Oklahoma long range whitetail and coyote rounds. Longest kill on deer was 688 yards, witnessed with the 125 ballistic tip.
Wow! That's smokin' fast! Yes, I've been impressed with the 125 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip on whitetail deer, from the 308 Winchester.
I have been using 130 grain ttsx bullets in my 270 Winchester with great results for the last 6-7 years. Black tail deer and black bears. They seem to do less blood shot damage as well. I use Hodgdon 100V powder with awesome results. Thanks for the good insight. Great video!!!
I use those in my 270 wsm with excellent results and no failures, use rem 9.5 mag primer with imr 4350
Barnes has been and is the leader in these bullets. They just work. 👍👍
I love this bullet in my .30-06 for whitetail at all ranges. WIN 760 @ 3000 +/- fps is a very accurate load. One shot has never failed to drop Georgia whitetails in their tracks.
Always a pleasure listening to Gavin and Guy, thank you gentlemen for another great episode 👍
These bullets are extremely accurate. I shot under .5 MOA with a 110 grain TTSX out of my 270 wsm. I plan to develop a new load for my 300 win mag using 175 grain LRX bullets.
Shooting 130 ttsx out of my ruger scout rifle at 16.1 inch at 2930 with varget and 1 moa at 100 with forward Mount 2x7 Burris Scout Scope. Will be hunting with this this fall during deer season.
If you do your job, it should do its job. I like those short barreled 308's.
I have been shooting the 165gr TTSX in my 30-06 for ten years. I get a chrono verified average of 3000 fps across five shots. That's with a 23" barrel. Accuracy has been amazing as well. My 7 mag with 160's barely exceeds my 30-06.
By the way, I zero mine at 230 yards. For elk, I can hold on the fur out 400 yards.
There are a lot of 7mag guys out there making it happen since 1969 or whatever, but the venerable '06 has been the greatest thing since chopsticks. In the right hands, it will remove the fingerprints.
I appreciate you posting this. I saw a node that averaged 3073 fps with the 168 gr TTSX in my 22" Savage 110 30-06. This made me a little nervous that it was a bit too high, even though I wasn't getting pressure signs. I've been seeing enough posts similar to yours and a response that I got from Barnes that has me rethinking that this might be a better load than the lighter one I was leaning towards. I'm doing more testing with the load, but appreciate knowing 3000+ fps isn't unheard of with these.
@@cobjread what powder are you running? I've got a savage 116 and a Tikka I want to work up a load for.
@@lazydragonslayer I'm using imr 4350. I'm reluctant to post the charge I found, but it was still a couple percentage points below Barnes published maximum.
Nice channel with alot of knowlege, thank you guys:) I have used Barnes Ttsx in 30-06 130 grain, 300 win mag 165 grain and 250 grain in 9,3x62. One of the best bullets I have ever used. Max range so far has been 267 meters on Moose with the 9,3x62 in the boiler and it dropt on the spot after standing still for 15 sec. Inside of that range I have used both 30 cal and the 9,3 on deer, doe, moose and fox with same results, No tracking and everything on the ground inside of 20 meters from impact-.place. The load I have for the 30-06, with the 130 grain is the most accurate bullet/load I have ever tried. In my old Mauser M98, made in 1937, of cours upgraded since then and with the 3rd barrel since I bought it. I can put 3 shots inside of a bottle-cap at 100 meters. So I am not looking for alternativ:) Greetings from Norway/Finnmark
Thanks for the detailed response from Norway/Finnmark!
Have been using the 80gr TTSX in my 243 here in South Africa very successfully on Kudu and smaller plains game. Have never recovered a bullet - all pass throughs
Awesome! I need to try those in my 6mm Remington.
My favorite caliber and exact bullet I use on whitetails every year. Never a tracking job! Very cool to see someone else getting success from something I swear by and something many guys say is "too small" for what we hunt 😂.
Thank you for sharing that information! Take care.
@@guyminer3168you'll love the results 😁👍. Happy hunting!
I played around with the 130gr tts in 300 win mag. Got 3600 fps. Also ran 110gr tsx at 3900 fps. Also ran 95gr ttsx in my 270 wsm at 3750. My oldest boy killed deer with all of these. You talking wicked when it hits. Hits like thors hammer.
There's a lot to like about the Barnes TTSX.
I vote for an UR 300WM vs 300PRC comparison!
I've been using the Barnes 130 gr. TTSX in the 308 Win., 30/06 Sprg., and 300 Weatherby for years. In conjunction with a Lee Factory Crimp Die for the appropriate cartridge; crimped to the foremost relief groove for a l-l-long jump to the lands as Barnes recommends. Superb accuracy and terminal performance. Red Deer, Oryx, Eland, Blue Wildebeest literally drop in their tracks. Yes, I often don't get complete penetration, so I recover alot of bullets and they all look similar to the Barnes advertisements.
*I am not using it.... yet. However, since it did not fracture, fragment or break apart... at full 30-06 speed and extremely short distance... I just might. Thank you for making me aware of how solid this little bullet really is.*
Might need to try these. GS custom bullets had this figured out for years. I might need to try these 130's in my 06. Had been using 125 NBT with N540 VV 60.2g running at about 3200 FPS.
I inherited my grandpa's U.S. model 1917 win. 30-06 that he had in the Korean war and Vietnam war...... After he was done with service, he used it for deer hunting for few years until he retired it.... I never shot it yet.... Pretty cool gun and piece of history..
I love the 1917! Absolutely you should shoot it and hunt with it. :)
My first deer rifle was a Model 1917, made by Winchester. It had the full 26 inch barrel and pop up rear military long range peep sights. Out to 1700 yards. That was a very accurate rifle. Being a world war one production era weapon, in bolt action, I would imagine that, especially in Vietnam, it was probably used as a sniper rifle. I know they had a real deficiency of these weapons in theater..
@@allanboyer2769 sounds like you had the same gun as I have now... The ladder peep sights and everything.... Cool!
Well done I really enjoy seeing these gel tests
Thanks. It's a bit of work to melt and re-mold the gel, but well worthwhile for hunting bullets I think.
I've found that they penetrate more the further you shoot an animal with them. I've put this down to less expansion slowing them down? Would be an interesting test to down load and shoot the gel block. The only Barnes I ever recovered from a deer was the closest deer I ever shot.
Definitely do some bullet and powder testing with the .300 Win Mag! That would be helpful to get more test info from different sources to enlarge the data pool.
I use 180 TSX with 4350 for Remington 700 series weapons with 24 in with a .75 moa Shined with buddies Sendero .35 MOA
I used this in my 300 win mag before I sold it. Great load for deer and it brought down the recoil which was a nice little bonus
130 tsx is the most accurate bullet in my 308. Excellent performance on deer and hogs so far. Massive damage and full penetration. Maybe 1" exit hole
I use TTSX bullets in my 6mm Rem, 257 Roberts and 6.5 swede and have had consistent one shot kills on Fallow and reds.
My favourite bullet. I also love the Norma Oryx.
I hunted for the last 4 years with Barnes 190 gr LRX bullets in my 300 Win Mag. Very effective on Mule Deer
Hunted Alabama deer with that exact load in 30-06 Sako. Excellent accuracy. 2 deer both thru shoulder. Ran 30 ft and expired within 15ft of each other. Hunt done in 30 minutes. Bullets not recovered. Couldn't chance deer running into swampy terrain. Have shot bull elk @300yds with 165gr solid copper. Bull dropped within 75ft one shot. Weatherby had factory 300wby load with 130ttsx a few years back. Barnes website showed harvested bull elk with that load
We used a hand loaded 150 gr. TTSX @ 2950fps in 30/06 on large bull elk at 512 lazered yards. Performance was great!
Good to know! That's a long shot, well done.
How was the expansion?
Very interesting conversation. I've been using Barnes for ten years and have always been impressed. On plains game and buffalo in Africa, wild boar and larger deer here in the UK they have performed faultlessly. The only reservation I have is concerned with their use on smaller deer (muntjac, Chinese water deer and even roe) where they have not always expanded sufficiently to leave a significant wound channel. I had a client hunting with me had to shoot a roe buck twice (both lung shots) before the animal went down. On examination of the carcass we found four holes all of identical size. Animal was at 140yds and bullet was 85g ttsx in .243. Having said that, I would stress that everything else I've shot or seen shot with Barnes has been killed very effectively.
XLC and tsx open better on light game. Try to cut the plastic tip about 1/3.
I’m glad you mentioned 243, what’s your recipe for that 85 grainer?
Shoulders w that 85 in 6 mm
.243 h4831 or rl 23
I been using the 180 TSX in my .300 WM since they came out. Devastating! Deer, elk and black bear. All dropped within feet of bullet impact if not in their tracks
Good on ya man! You have the powder to push that 180 gr out there and still have good penetration and expansion! I've studied calibers and their optimum bullet weights for about 40 years. The 180gr in the 300 WM is a dead ringer!
Another advantage with light bullets in 30 caliber is significantly reduced recoil. As long as one keeps aware of reasonable range limitations I have ALWAYS liked the lighter bullets because of their flatness at reasonable mid-range distances.
One could extend the "reasonable" range by improving on their own ability then switching to a better bullet.
@@NorthRiverGuide I probably didn't make my point as clear as I could have. I meant to emphasize the ADVANTAGE one can get with lighter bullets at closer ranges, because of velocity vs the advantage found with heavier bullets at longer ranges because of their BC. One can often shoot flatter with a lighter bullet up to 400 yards vs a heavier bullet which will have less drop at 600 yards. There's crossover: lighter bullets are flatter under 400 yards or so while heavier bullets will be flatter as you get into longer ranges.
I have that same gun and I love it! 30-06 💪
NICE!!!!
I always get better consistency with barnes bullets. Many times I've been struggling to tune load with a cup and core, so I start over with a barnes and its like night and day. Now I just start with Barnes all the time. Also Ive had great results with the TSX, TTSX, & LRX as far as accuracy goes.
130 in 12” 308 for nighttime hog hunting as well as the 110’s out of a 300 blackout for hog and deer. Barnes bullets are some of the best for taking game in my opinion.
Keep in mind the low velocity expansion threshold of these bullets. You are just about done at 400 yards where it is just above 2000fps.
probably shouldn't be hunting past that with a 30-06 anyway.
Who cares? Most ethical hunters won't take a shot past 400 with an 06 anyways. 400+ yard bullet performance is overrated as heck.
@@nickleback3695 just because one person isn’t competent to make a +400 yard shot doesn’t mean others aren’t. Western hunters routinely make shot at that distance and beyond. 30.06 is more than capable of effectively killing well beyond 400 yards. You just have to select a proper bullet.
@@mikedoyle7020
Correct, some shooters can shoot further & with deadly accuracy.
They did cover this at 13:30.
I've tried various weight bullets in the 30-06 over the past 50 years, but my preference runs towards the 180 gr weight. I have had very good performance with the barnes 180 gr TTSX bullets on game from pronghorn antelope to moose.
I loaded 200 grain TTSX for my friends 0.375 H/H we have not shot them yet as he has injered hi shoulder, I am looking forward to getting to the range after he recovers from surgery, Saying hi from New Zealand.
My howa 300win loves the 168gr from their preloaded line, but seems happy with anything really! My dad liked the old hypersonic federal branded barnes in his 7mm and 270win (110gr), those push 3500fps from factory loads. Shooting those at 700yds next to my 300win with 200 eldx one day, it was like he had a laser and I was bow an arrow watching vapor trails. I still have a few boxes of the 130ttsx in 300win too!
Also be cool Gavin if you found a Bubba sportized 1903 and did a fully accuruzed sweet sporterization in a classic cartridge.
I push the 150gr TTSX to just a hair under 2900fps out of my friends Savage .308 with a 18" barrel using AR-Comp. It had consistent 1.25ish MOA accuracy with every powder charge I tried, so I just went for velocity. No pressure signs at all.
Tikka t3 300wsm. 150-165-180 ttsx and imr 4350! Absolute beast of a round. From deer to moose.
I really like these videos with Guy, especially the ones where hes on his own. That was really cool seeing that old A3 featured as well. I love some old war horse rifles. Ive got a 1919 Spanish Mauser in 7X57 and two German 8MMs that Im about to start reloading for.
Another interesting video. Always great to see the old sage.😊
Way back in the 1930's, a couple of known deer hunters did alot of experiments with different projectiles in different weights in this caliber, an found back then that 130 gr bullets were the poison for deer, can't remember who they were, but I'm sure it can be found on the net somewhere. Thx for the vid Gavin
That was the old speer 130 gr .308 it worked but at 3 k it can be explosive 🧨
@@kencleg7721 nowadays that velocity in some bullets would prove devastating. I can't wait to test these Hammer Bullets in my 7mm-08.
@@kencleg7721 thx, couldn't remember all the details
@@LCdonkeyshow
The hammer bullets are interesting. Unfortunately I won't buy them because of the owner...
I've seen several big bull elk taken with 30 06 in 130 and 150 barnes. I also know of an Eiland taken with a 130 in Zambezi with one shot from 500ish yards. And from a meat stand point the bullet not exploding jeeps gunshot to a minimum. Boys the all copper is the only thing out there that holds a candle to the partitions.
300 Win Mag… yes! Go for it!
I loaded up 150gr barnes TTSX in 300WM at 3320fps with IMR4350. A real hum dinger of a flat shooting deer round with an 8” diameter kill zone MPBR to 367yd.
I shoot 104.5 grains of Reloader 25 with 130 grain TTSX in my 300 RUM. Absolutely the flattest whitetail round around out to about 500 yards.
My goodness! That's a lot of cartridge!
I have a company in Montana that hand loads my ammo to The+p's
I've loaded the 130 gr TTSX in my 300 Weatherby for fun. Got up to 3766 FPS and it was Sub MOA... but I don't shoot it very often.
Damn 3766 haha . What's up RW :)
@@Therionx Hi Therion
Hornady used to load 150 gmx, in 300 Win Mag Superformance, at 3400 fps! I have 3 boxes.
I once finished off a previously-wounded (by someone else), whitetail buck with a 130 TTSX handload in my 24-inch barreled .30-06 700 Remington Mountain Rifle at 3000-plus fps. It was facing away from me in heavy cover, and I had to take a rear-end shot to put it down. That little bullet entered a ham, penetrated through the entire animal, exited the ribcage by following the spine up the neck and it lodged into the base of the skull. ( A lightning bolt wouldn't have ended that unfortunate situation any faster.)
Bullet ended up a perfect, four-petal mushroom that still weighed 128 grains after I dug it out.
For deer I have since upped the velocity ante to the 110 TTSX at 3400-something fps, but have never recovered a bullet so far. The deer always drop in their tracks with a 1-1/2-inch exit hole on broadside shots and a fan-shaped spray onto the offside landscape. (Broadside or quartering ribcage hits only so far).
Now to be clear, I wouldn't choose that particular 110 gr. bullet for elk, but if I had to, I'd take broadside ribcage shots, avoiding shoulder bone, with complete confidence. It will hold together and it will penetrate in a straight line. I just wouldn't ask it to bust an elk's shoulder bones, nor to rake the body on a severely-angled quartering shot.
But broadside elk ribcage hits out to perhaps 300 yards? No problem if that was the only bullet I had with me. I'd just take great care to place my shot perfectly, again to avoid the shoulder bones.
A 165 or 180 TTSX would be a better choice for general elk hunting and would definitely smash even those bones.
Barnes makes fantastic hunting bullets.
Minor correction to my story above: the bullet I finished that wounded buck with, was actually the older blue coated Barnes 130 XLC, not the polymer-tipped TTSX version.
While I doubt that the minor difference would have mattered much in the final outcome, accurate details matter...
22:22 I load the 130 ttsx for my 300 Savage. Velocity 2760 fps.
This would’ve an exceptional bullet choice for hunting purposes in the 30-TC. Really thought this cartridge would see some kind of resurrection with the popularity of its offspring the 6.5 Creedmoor but then again there’s nothing the 30-TC can do the 30-06 cant. Thanks for the content guys good stuff!
I have killed deer for many many years with Barnes XLC’s , X bullets and TTSX’s , they do very well.
Last kill with them was 100 grain TTSX out of hand loaded 6.5 rem mag ( fps I can’t remember but speed was cooking,… broke a 1-1/2” out of front rib , liquified lungs , penetrated all the way into rear thigh muscle and was embedded next to outside skin and could be felt on outside of deer. Fantastic penetration,… traveled about 3.5 feet easily thru meat and bone
My father and I have been using 125-135gr bullets since the middle 60's. They are deer stoppers. Not greatest 500yd bullets but anything under that flattens them.
For reloaders, if you like the 300 win mag, then you should love the 300 short mag, almost identical performances with less powder. And shorter action means lighter rifle
I wont hunt with any other projectile/ammo!... If you do the 300 WM or 300 PRC, you have to shoot the 180 grain TTSX in the WM and the 208 LRX or 212 bore rider in the PRC.
I had a Rem 03-A3 dated Aug, 1944. It was sporterized with 24" 2 groove. 150 fmj's .75 at 100. It had Lyman peep sight.
Had a broken stock at the grip that someone kinda sorta fixed.
30-06 is the GOAT
Yes. Will love to see 300 wm load. Something to try to equal or get close to 300 PRC. I know is not the same but will love to see.
Thanks
Keep these vids coming
I think that bullet on large heavy mature bull elk within 200 yrds probably be great.
The 115s are my goto in Grendel. My Howa mini carbon stalker shoots in the 4s and do the work on whitetails. My daughter took her first deer on opening day with it.
What velocity do you get with the 115:s.
I have the 22 standard barrel on my grendel howa mini.
@Mr @Mr I haven't sent any across my chrono, but I am above published load data(start lower and work up). Barnes gives the max for RL 15 as 27.0 and I am in the upper 27s. I would estimate 2500 fps. I have a Grendel AR and I would not shoot these powder charges in it.
Jump distance has been important for coppers in several different guns for me. Start around 50 thousandths. My Howa ended up liking a little less than that, but my .308 Abolt liked 100 thousandths.
In my 30-06 with 22-inch barrel and 1:11 Twist, I loaded Varget 54.00 grains with this bullet, I am getting avg 3100 fps, good enough for me for elk at 300 yards.
Best of luck on your elk hunt!
Sweet
I have used 3 different monolithic bullets out of my 30-06 with excellent accuracy 150 grain GS high velocity bullet 165 grain Frontier Spartan and the original Barnes X bullet all with excellent results on African game shot some Bluewildebeest Kudu and a Zebra with the 165 bullet all was down with one shot
I use barnes bullets in every caliber I own but one because when the gun goes boom the deer flop to the ground 95 percent of the time! I had one go 10yds one time! 130 barnes our of my 308 and 300savage, 165 out of 06, 200gr out 35whelen, 200gr, 250gr & 275gr out 450 bushmaster and 150gr for my wife's 3030!
Really like this idea of deep diving into the different rounds... I live in Namibia and do allot of plains game hunting would like to see more info for the 30-06 but more in the 165gr -180gr bullets.
Armin, a 180 grain Swift Scirocco over IMR4350 has done well for me on plains game up to & including blue wildebeest, as well as elk and whitetail here in the States. It's a modest load at 2,600 fps, but penetration, accuracy, and bullet weight retention are superb. Very easy to work up a load too.
Waidmansheil!
Took an elk in January at 405 yards with my 30-06, using a 178 grain Hornady ELD-X bullet. Worked well.
Barnes in the 130 for the 06. What folks fail to realize what u normally use the solid is tougher bullet so lighter and tipped lrx in 130 in the 06 would work
My 3006Ai, is my favorite round
Sorry to say that I discovered this combo in 2012 as I live in CA and we were facing a change to lead free ammo in the next couple of years.
I decided to get a jump start on the changeover and started working up loads for my .300 Svages bout on Remington 722 platforms and Savage 99’s. Along the way I ended up with a very accurate load for all the rifles that differed in charge weight of only .3 grains and 67 FPS. The Remington 722 has a 22” barrel and fired the 130gr TTSX at 2761 FPS and the savages with the 24”barrels fired the 130gr at 2829FPS.
Along the way I really started thinking about what it would in a .308 and the 30-06. Especially the 30-06 for Speed Goats (Antelope) at distance on the High Plains around Juniper, Idaho out to about 500 yards.
I personally like Varget powder for the 30-06 with the TTSX and 3031 for the .300 Savage.
In .308 both seem to be pretty close to each other and I know the powder weights for both so I go with what I have the most of at the moment.
The 130gr TTSX preformed so close to a 150gr bonded premium or cup and core bullet that I do not miss the heavier bullet for deer and Speed Goats. The big advantage is that the bullet holds together very well and I have never had one fragment at all. Retained weight for every bullet I have recovered has been 124gr or better. The best thing is that out of my 30-06 I a getting 3127 fps and accuracy is very good preforming better than most match bullets.
One thing about the monolithic bullets is that for best accuracy they need a clean barrel free from ANY COPER DEPOSITS from any other bullets. Jacketed bullets and lead bullets will drastically open up groups to as muck 2 inches after shooting as few as two bullets!
Why? I have no idea but this was the hardest thing to figure out over the years is why you could shoot such great groups when testing ammo and than shoot the same load in the same rifle and get such poor results after shooting other types of ammo.
This is the one down side to the TSX and the TTSX bullets. They need a barrel that is factory new or cleaned and all copper remover from the barrel prior to shooting.
You can shoot other types of anno after the TTSX but not the other way around.
I uss nothing but the Barnes TSX and TTSX up to 180 gr and the well outperform their weight class.
I have seen a constant 3/4 MOA rifle with Barnes TTSX bullets shoot as
Love the 300 mag! You asked I answered 😊
Been useing ttsx bullets for years!!! Love them for hunting!!!
I’m curious to see how it does in the 300 win mag. I’ve looked at these bullets for my 300 wsm for whitetail hunting. 3600fps with staball or superformance would be pretty mean
I first heard about using a 130 gr tsx on big game when I read an article where they were trying it in a 300 weatherby. They were getting about 3750 fps, to the best of my recollection, and took it to africa where they tried it on game ranging from very small to elk size with good results on all. They said it exploded jackels, and acheived good penetration on elk sized game but with more shock effect. I don't have a 300 weatherby but tried 85 gr in 243 and 110 in 270. My results were not as impressive as they reported, but they worked fine, and I would like to experiment more with light barnes bullets in other calibers.
Saw a vid. Dude popped lvl 4 ceramic plates wuth 300wm with 130grain barnes ttsx. Albeit 26" barrel
I also use these bullets in my 2506 , will take yote out at 475 yards no problem
25 cal tsx
First and formost, even the mention of .300 savage in a video makes me happy. Not a common one.
Would love to see some 300WM content. I am currently using a savage 110 action with custom barrel and stock for competition. Would love to see how you set up a 300WM from scratch as I see alot of info online about variations in headspace procedures as well as comparisons directly to 300PRC. I belive based on current results I will be sticking with the 300WM for at least a barrel or two. Then I aill step down and play with a 300 savage for fun ;)
Nice bullet! Gonna get some!
Keep your 300 prc. We already know it has the advantage with its long throat for long bullets...
...and 8mm mauser... AND 6.5 x 55 Swede... AND 7.5 Swiss, Carcano, etc, etc... 👍
Hello guy glad to see ya back
Gavin I have all the older rifle’s mentioned Arisaka T99, G98, MAS-36, Garand, Enfield and even fin m38 that could be used for shoot out. The comparisons alone between the fin m38 and mosin nagant would be interesting. We travel alot, besides shipping is an option with C&R. Happy to lend them.
I would like to see 300 wm videos!
My 300 win mag loves 125g Nosler Ballistic tips with 76 grains of IMR 4350.
Whats ur velo?
Very good information gents. Impressive results. I would use it in my 308 16" or 26" inside 300 on whitetail without reservation. Thank you much.
Definitely given me a reason to try them out. Gonna have to load some for my -06
I've had good success with the same bullets in .30-06. those were the first cartridges I ever loaded as a matter of fact.
My freaking heros! Love seeing the 1903!
This is a cool experiment! I don’t think the 150 grain TTSX trajectory or velocity will be different enough over 4-500 yards to choose the 130 over it though, due to the 150’s higher BC. I still like the 180s, although I really want to move towards the 175 grain LRX.
I have been using this bullet in 308 for hog hunting since they came out. Before that, I used the non tipped version. I run them in a Mega Arms AR-10 308 with an 18-inch JP Super Match barrel. I'm getting 2,887 FPS with Viht N135. Consistently getting sub 1/2 inch groups from this paring. My Bergara HMR has printed several 3 round groups under .3 with the exact same round. As for performance on game, I have shot dozens of hogs, and the results are devastating. You get both the damage from the hydrostatic shock due to the velocity and deep penentration. I was also able to achieve velocities up to 3,200 FPS in a 20-inch barrel with Winchester 748 but accuracy was not acceptable to me. Nothing better for hunting in my opinion.
What is the twist rate of your AR 10?
@@kenhatley1041 Mine is 1 in 11.25.
@@bigjimmy6690 thanks man! I will need to find some N135. I have a pound of N140 I just bought 😫
That’s a nice group. I’m trying to develop an accurate load for pig hunting too. Thanks again for the quick response!
@kenhatley1041 No problem, good luck!
Yes will love to see 300 wm vs PRC.
30-378 Weatherby can push this same 130gr bullet to 3800fps. I don’t care if it burns more powder. You don’t buy a muscle car to save gas and tires.
Apparently your shoulder is a lot tougher than mine. No way am I using a 30-378 for anything. I'm happy with my 06.
I would like to also see this bullet in 308 Win with Target. 50 grains?? For a Ruger 20 inch SFAR rifle. Thanks for listening.
I have a load worked up for my .308 with 150 gr. TSX that is going 3023 in front of R15 powder. Shoots half inch groups at 100 yards. I also have a partial load worked up a load with TTSX but never finished it. I got to playing with other loads.
That 150 TSX at 3023 fps should be a great load. Excellent!
@guyminer3168 That load is a good one. Holds it's accuracy and I feel comfortable with it out to 400 yards.
Hi there i used for red stag hunting .
Pretty good size animal back in the patagonian similar or maybe bigger than elk .
I used 168 gr hand reload .
I'd love to hunt red stag in Argentina! Glad you liked the Barnes bullets.
We just ran a vintage milsurp match at our local range and it was so fun. We started with a show and tell then ran a CMP style drill.
Been using this load in my 30-06 for years.
I use the 130gr TTSX in a 30-40 Krag, Ruger #3. The powder is H380 and WMRL primers. It’s a great set up and good out to 400yds on big game if I hand to push it that far.
.300 h&h mag my favorite especially with new powders I can push 300 Weatherby velocity no problem
I have some .243 ttsx bullets to load up some 6mm arc.. I just haven’t got around to do some loading, that would be a cool load ! I would like to see what that does!
I shoot the 130gr TTSX in 308 Win. Tikka T3 with 50.0gr of Varget. 3100fps and half MOA groups. It has taken a few deer and 3 elk. Each time the animal has died within 50yds of being shot, majority are bang flops. Have yet to recover a bullet.
Just worked up a 30-06 load with this bullet and IMR 4064. With my 26in barrel I'm seeing over 3400fps on a near max charge and tiny little groups. Insane.
I was using these in my 243 pushing them up to 3200 until i went onto the LRX 95gr which am pushing at 3050 which works really well (1:8 twist)
I also have a Remington made 1903A3. Mine was an American Legion parade gun, so it was reparkerized and the stock got some layers of varnish and a lot of care.