Testing Vallejo Metal Colors - Does It Hold Up To Alclad ???
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
- Here I test for the first time Vallejo Metal Colors. This is Vallejos answer to Alclad II Metal paints. Being an acrylic I wasn't sure what to expect as I believe lacquers handle metal colors better. I compare them to the Alclad at the end and you judge for yourself
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The Chrome is more an aircraft chrome, and not a bumper chrome so no comparison. The Liquid Silver line is more designed for hand painting. Because it does have powdered aluminum mixed with the paint, it isn't recommended to spray with an airbrush. Be like taking 400 grit sandpaper to the inside of your airbrush.
Use the the gloss that comes in the Vallejo Metal color line to overcoat these, and they really come to life.
As far as cost comparison to Alclad. Up here in Canada, both lines are the same price, about $12/bottle. But you get more of the Vallejo, and you can hand paint with them as well as airbrush them. No hand painting with Alclad. As well the Vallejo line has little to no smell, unlike Alclad. The Liquid Silver line is like $8, but again, not really to be airbrushed.
Alclad is also a brand that I just heard about that isn't available for me to purchase here in Australia. Vallejo is better for hand painting anyway, which is what I do.
@@benjaminclarke7984 while the Vallejo Metal Color is designed for airbrushing, it can easily be hand painted as well
Thanks a lot for your test, I'm binge watching all your videos for the metal colors. Your channel is really underrated, I hope more people find these videos!
Thank you for the appreciation. I'm trying my best. I will have more metal colors coming within a week so be on the look out. Hopefully tonight
Paul from NB Canada. Thanks for doing all these Chrome/Gold shootouts especially!!! I appreciate knowing now when I buy Chrome for my cars that these will work as advertised and you save us all massive headaches looking on our own!!! SO GLAD I found this page!!!
Very interesting, thank you for your diligence.
Your welcome friend. Plenty more paints to test that's for sure
I'm not knocking your test or results, but I do have to ask, did you apply a varnish to the Vallejo metallics after they dried? The company's own demo video [th-cam.com/video/E1MVvS1phcE/w-d-xo.html] does say that a coat of gloss varnish makes the paint look more realistic.
Great vid. I was just at Andy's looking at Alclad colors. Think they might be my go to for metal's wasn't a lot in stock. Going to try some mission model metal's and see what comes from it.
The main drawback i found when using Alclad was that Tamiya tape left marks on the finish which is a real bug bear ...i haven't found that with the Vellejo ones..but as you have pointed out they don't have the ''Mettalic ness'' of Alclad..the new Tamiya Lacquer has some metal colours and they have been the best for me..very hard wearing paint and no problems with tape marks
Thanks for the comparison. I've been looking to get some real metallics and I hadn't heard of Alclad until now. Subbed for more!
More coming very soon
Thanks again for posting a great video
You're welcome buddy 👌
That was a great video. Thank you
Thanks
I wonder if the Vallejo metals would look better with a gloss varnish on top to give it the 'shine'.
can you do the alclad hot metal colors too i want use them for burnt titanium looks but wanna get your opinion first if you could the hot metal blue violet and sepia
What pressure do you use for these?
Just FYI I wouldn't use the Vallejo Liquid Series that much. As nice as they are. The liquid series is notorious for damaging brushes or air brushes. You have to have a separate brush or airbrush for them. Be careful they do damage things
I hear ya. I'm not the biggest Vallejo fan. For my metal colors I prefer Alclad. And after them I like the AK Xtreme Metal line up
@@barbatosrex9473 Vallejo has nice normal paint but I agree their metal series I'm not the biggest fan. Its too matte for me
Huh, really? Guess I'll have to stop trying to spray mine... another issue I had with them is that they can dust like crazy - one figurine comes out perfectly fine, the other grittier than 400 grit sandpaper :| I don't know if its the alcohol drying just too fast or me doing something wrong (too high pressure, too far away from the mini), but it's lottery for me :| At least they are cheaper in the EU, about 4-5 bucks a bottle.
Hi, i was wondering if i could use tamiya's retarder with this? It's the only acrylic retarder i have on me atm.
Metal colors seems to clog my airbrush after just few seconds of spraying :( I'm using 20 psi with ps-270 (.2mm), i can't get that nice thin layer you are getting for some reason..
Man, that magnesium over gloss black looks perfect for my Bandai Mandalorian for his Beskar Armor.
Gotta say as someone who has particularly enjoyed Vjellos metal colour range this is interesting. Though working on the fairly small scale sometimes being close enough is enough compared to the convenience of working with an Acrylic over alcohol.
I might keep an eye out for allclad though, I would like to give it a try.
Alclad is great. My go to brand for metal colors. Grab a couple bottles of your most used colors and give it a try. You won't be disappointed
@@barbatosrex9473 Hmm interesting. Cost much less then I expected too at £4 a pop per bottle. Does it work well with brush? Need to sort out a new airbrush ahaha.
@@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 airbrush only
You are perfectionist.,great.!
Can't wait for the rest of the alclad tests!
They look really good on DnD miniatures where they mimic a matt metal finish, and can be hand painted. But yeah, at large scale some of them don't look super realistic.
You have to spray those colours over a super gloss surface in missed it on just like you would miss on alclad but build it up somewhat slowly and then the effect of the colour comes through even better it will not be as bright and shiny as alclad but the lustre will definitely be superior than most acrylic paints
thanks for vid,I am thinking about switching to vallejo paints,i bought the rust kit,model air,so me and son can make doomsday cars outta my junk ones,lol,and ive got steel to see if i should buy them or not.I only do model cars.all clade does look better,Ive been thinking about buying a large kit from vallejo,but taymi has one to
Good thing I saw this video. You probably just saved me like $50. I'll definitely give Alclad a try.
Glad I could help 👍
Wow! is that Alclad Chrome as stunning as it looks on camera?
Sure is. It's my favorite paint
You are getting really good at painting spoons. Do you ever build a model!? Also assuming you are independently wealthy with all the stuff you buy!
I just to test them with a lot of difficulties to spray them, i thinned with airbush thinner and flow improver i surprise the spray it so different on your vidéo. Can you tell me if you thinned them? What the size of your needle and pression please. Thanks
he said in the beginning that he did not thin it at all (vallejo is also stating it is directly ready for airbrush)
Allclad looks better for chrome and brass/copper. however, for the steel color I think vallejo looks just a tad better.
I use now the same vallejo metal paints. What on psi do you flow on the video aproximetly? And what nozzlesize do you spray it?
Here I am using a 3mm nozzle and I run around 15 to 20 psi
@@barbatosrex9473 thank you:)
What was that yellow model that was near the camera when you started the video
That's a Gundam Astray I custom painted in the Brawn F1 colors
How is the durability of the Vallejo’s? In other words do I need to top coat them even if say they are on the bottom side of a model car?
It's very good. You shouldn't have a problem with that at all
@@barbatosrex9473 thank you for the quick reply.
this guy must have a spoon factory by now :)))
Yeah but it's a great resource to have those samples to draw on to decide the right one
hi what is the gloss black base u using?
Alclad Gloss Black Base
valejo is amazing just of the fact it doesent harm like laquer or acryl from tamiya or else. Valejo is realy a good brand,
For sure, they're a great company
"BARBATOS REX"?!?!? Love it! Wish I had that idea!
Hey now 😃
I've never heard of Alclad paints. Came across this video due to looking into the Vallejo line. Are Alclad paints acrylic?
Lacquer. Check my other videos. I've a few on Alclad, they're some of my favorite paints. A wide variety of metal colors that look just like real metal
@@barbatosrex9473 Okay. What acrylic paint brand/types would you say have the best metals? I can only use acrylic since I live in an apartment, and the fumes from other types linger too much.
@@MrDLTH-cam you are limited to your choices for sure. Vallejo Metal paint would be your go to I'm just not crazy about them. Now if you want your standard metallic metal colors you can try AK Interactive 3rd Gen paint or Ammo by Mig metallics. Both of those have a bunch of metal colors to choose from like silver, steel and gunmetal that give pretty nice results. Plus they're inexpensive so you can try a couple of each for under $10 and see which one you like
@@barbatosrex9473 I'll check them out. Thanks a lot for your help. I really appreciate you taking the time.
Is there a difference between Alclad and Alclad II ?
No
Hi nice review I'm beginner does 1 needs to be thin?
These are pre thinned
I wish I had discovered your channel earlier, definitely would have saved me from buying some Vallejo Metal Color paints and opt for Alclad all the way instead. Great vid as always!
Thanks buddy. I'll be testing more Alclad colors this week so stay tuned
Are you pre primering all your spoons ?
Yes, the spoons are painted with Alclad Gloss Black Base. Most Metalizer paints require a black base. I believe Alclad makes the best. Check out my Alclad Chrome video, I show it there
@@barbatosrex9473
So primer , then black base?
@@COLDWARCLASSICS the black base is the primer. I asked Alclad and that's what they told me so that's what I've been doing, using the Gloss black base as the primer. However my friend outs down a primer first then the black so I guess it's up to you
@@barbatosrex9473
You answered my question !!
Thank you very much ..
you channel is amazing and im learning alot from it ..
if i may ..im primarily going to shoot alclad chrome out of it ..
Have you found a gun you like the the alclad out of ..
Thanks again .. your a gem man!
What airbrush do you use?
For this video I used my Mr Hobby Procon Boy Platinum. I also use a Harder & Steenbeck Infinity
@@barbatosrex9473 I want to try the alclad colors. Do you need to thin them? And on what PSI do you set the air pressure?
@@madosa.customs No thinning necessary. Use it straight out of the bottle. Clean your airbrush with regular lacquer thinner or acetone. I airbrush them at 15 to 20psi. Also for the record, my Mr Hobby Procon airbrush has a built in air valve that let's you adjust the air pressure while your painting. Great feature
i think dull aluminum 77.717 have better look
Wow, they just don't hold up to Alclad...I guess the main draw is that they are safer than Alclad? But I have a respirator...so not too worried about that. They might be more competitive if they were $5 a bottle...but with Alclad being $7-8...I'll stay with Alclad.
Alclad is without a doubt in my eyes the best
you are comparing acrylics to lacquer paints the medium is different of course they are going to look different
No surprise the lacquer paints kind of murder the acrylic. It's hard to compete with lacquer.
i believe these are supposed to just looks like the metals (except chrome), alclad does a better job of imitating high end metallic paintjobs
I too agree that Alclad II is the better metal color, but you're comparing apples to oranges. Alclad II is Lacquer Based (as you know) and Vallejo is Acrylic. I can't paint Lacquer during the winter at my location as I don't have enough ventilation. Your vids are great and I've learned a lot, but please keep the comparisons to paint in the same class. Acrylic to Acrylic, Enamel to Enamel, Lacquer to Lacquer, or at least when you say X Paint doesn't compare to Alclad, but put a reminder in that Alclad is a Lacquer. Have a great day.
Never was a fan of vallejo, the primers are hard to work with, the "Air" lineup is ok for small parts...those results are nowhere near what you did, the vallejo results look like my alclad test- terrible! lol
Nit very good 😢
"I'm not a big Vallejo guy" he says. Obviously from his opening comments about wishing the container was glass not plastic. The whole review seemed a bit Alclad biased.
to me, the fact that they are acrylic is enough to make me not want them.
You got that right. I'm a lacquer guy without a doubt but I also love paints and supplies and I'm interested in trying them all. But in the end lacquer will always win
@@barbatosrex9473 yessir! I love having supplies too!
If a reviewer follows the instructions for using a product wrongly, are they a good reviewer? or just spreading disinformation lol? prime and gloss the base first.
I used Alclad Gloss Black Base as my primer and gloss base. When I contacted Alclads office in Tennessee I asked them about the primer for the black base. They told me the their Gloss Black Base is itself the primer and that I didn't need anything besides the Gloss black base. So since then it's what I use when I spray chrome and Metalizer colors. I keep about 20 spoons painted with the Alclad Gloss Black Base so I'm always ready for testing.
@@barbatosrex9473
I forgot to add the most important part and that's my bad as it's 3 am here it happens: ~
Ask yourself why you need that glossy black surface, and why you defeated the whole purpose of it by airbrushing so much vallejo metal color on.
The product worked, with not that much paint even tho I believe you complained about cost, as you then went and kept on spraying and spraying and spraying and spraying. Rewatch your video, look at how little it takes and then when the gloss disappears keep watching as you continue to add more and more paint. Acrylic paint is transparent by nature. The product is good, you just tried too hard to make it look like something it wasn't.