That's very interesting. Minelab shared some of their Multi Frequency tech with Whites in exchange for Whites Target ID graph. This looks like an updated Whites spectra graph used on Whites Spectrum detectors. The Whites spectrum would also show you if you went over an ferrous object and a non-ferrous with a blip on the left from -1 to -100 and on the right of the line from 1-100. This is very familiar with me. I used it for years. Bottle caps would have blips that kinda smear across both side.
Thanks for the comment. You could be right. I'm late to the game when it came to what Whites did in the past. They made some pretty good machines in their day.
Great video, got mine yesterday and went straight out and tried hunting in high conductors mode and I couldn’t find a thing. This was coming from using a whites XLT and DFX for 20 years, had to change it a bit and watch some videos of yours and now it is AMAZING! can’t believe how much better this is than the detectors I was using. Thank you sir.
I'm in Myrtle Beach, SC with my Garrett AT Pro. My Manticore showed yesterday to my home in VA. Very informative videos. I can't wait to get home to set it up now. Please keep putting out the great content. Thanks again!
my Manticore is almost a week old now and i have had great success with it in the dirt. this is what i consider the best explanation so far on this screen...........great vid......thanks
Very useful info Scott! Even though I watch many videos from others, I alway leave yours having learned something new, you are always very clear and informative. This machine seems to me, to be much simpler to understand and navigate than the Deus 2, what a relief. Merry Christmas sir!
This is a brilliant tutorial mate!! I like your unhurried way, as we need this, we need to understand this machine as much as possible, to get as much out of it as we can. I'll be downloading your vids for my phone and computer so I can quickly access them. Subbed! Glen, Doncaster, UK.
Good Job! So glad you posted this video. Watching carefully i see that the crumpled foil appears the same as the nickel on the 2D and that was exactly what I was looking for. If the 2D does not help me differentiate foil or pull tabs from low conductive coins and 10K rings then I'll stick the extra $700 in my pocket, keep my Nox 800 and continue to use my ears more than my eyes.
Agree, if you are basing your decision on my 1 video/1 target then yes you should probably stick to the 800 for now. Man some of you guys are hard to please. But I always tell folks to use what they want, if it works for you then stick w/it. No issues from me. Just trying to help others. This video appears to have helped you make your decision.
@@MentalMetal you are doing an awesome job! and yes, I am only using the data you provided in that one video. I am not hard to please and most certainly I do not want my comment to come across as disparaging to the Manticore or your video. To qualify my comment, I am only a casual detectorist and would not log in the hours required to learn and appreciate the additional signal processing given with the Manticore at this time. I've been looking at a Manticore upgrade for months but they're sold out so I've just been watching videos. There are few videos showing how the 2D can differentiate trash targets from something worth digging. I believe there are clues in the 2D that will help so I'm looking forward to more videos on that subject. Keep up the good work!
Have to say you explained it so well and even a dimwit like myself understood it all. I take delivery of mine tomorrow and looking forward to getting totally confused. Only downside to the video was we didn't get to meet Rocky. Thanks so much and I look forward to seeing your other videos.
Glad it was helpful! check out the new coin setup I just released over the weekend and you can now see Rocky. He has his own channel th-cam.com/channels/hvfsBWyyW3Y2qVeAuY_k7Q.html
Good to see this special MP3.5….. used Nexus Standard Mk11 for a long time before it got broken… Now have the V2 and V3….not for everyone, especially if you like lots of bells and whistles. But raw performance and power they are a dam good machine. I think the low frequency coils achieve good results on the small stuff due to the high transmit power (as opposed to high gain). I also use the SS coils… you might need a level 6 and 7 test to challenges those! These days the Manticore is doing the heavy lifting, but the Nexus comes out for the real deep stuff…. I use the dual 12 inch coil for this work, look forward to seeing more tests from the other side of the pond. Daz (UK)
Thanks for the info on the Nexus, I've never used one so I can't offer anything on it. The Manticore has become my machine of choice over all the others except for relic hunting and the Deus 2 my machine for those conditions.
Great Video! I just recently received my Manticore, and TBH, I’m fairly novice at the hobby. My other detector is a Gold Monster, a different beast. This video really helped me understand this aspect of the manticore.. Clear, concise, and covered the subject matter well! Look forward to watching your other instructional videos. 👍🏻👍🏻
Ugg. I really like that 2D map a lot. But don't want to spend the coin to get it. I was going to get a 900. Upgrading from 600 I sold. 70% of my hunting is on beach and this thing looks fantastic for it.
I own a Etrac and Just bought a Ctx. The more I watch these videos the more I want one. I’m still on the fence and will probably wait until more get out there in the field. Manticore is looking good though.
Thanks for the video I'm really thinking of getting one been looking at all kinds of videos pro and cons. I have 4 White's detectors that I flip flop with.
Awesome video! I own the CTX as well as the 800, I’m a firm believer after watching all the videos out. This is a hybrid between both of them with faster better technology. I have the manticore on order who knows when I’ll get it but because of a shoulder injury I will be selling my CTX with the three coils unfortunately good machine just can’t handle the weight. That’s why I’m going with a Manticore.
Thanks for your video, you explained the main functions very informatively. I have a question about the discriminator in Manticore. There are many videos on the Internet where you can see that Manticore shows both trash and gold with the same ID number. Let's say I even saw a video where a person tested a ring weighing 8 grams of 750 fineness and Manticore showed, for example, ID 86, and then he took gold earrings with a fineness of 750 and the ID was 28 ... 32. This is strange behavior for a discriminator. How do you rate the stability of the discriminator readings in Manticore? For example, I had a Tesoro Lobo Supertraq. It is a brilliant detector. And it also has a super discriminator. If I set the discriminator to exclude all metals except gold, then any gold with any alloy and fineness 333 585 and 750 was always seen by it even among a pile of iron trash and I did not have to dig the ground every 2 meters. If the ID readings in Manticore are misleading, then this would be a big problem for me.
Great Video! This helped me better understand the display. Just ordered mine this week and have no idea how long the detectors are taking to get delivered
Wish this 2D screen was on the XPD2 as at this point in time does not have the false problems the Manticore has, if Mindlab sorts that out then it’s going to be on par with D2, Enjoyed watching and love the screen lay out on the Manticore as well as easy setting menu 🥳🥳🥳
Very well done. Clear understanding. Except I'm wondering, what kind/type of targets appear in the shaded areas, the one above the ferris line and the one below? Thank you a bunch.
I’ve been looking everywhere trying work out what the actual difference is between the upper and lower limits. You are the first person that’s actually answered that question!! Thankyou!!
Is there a beginners video for first time in the field? How to determine which terrain to use... what order to do things like noise cancel and ground balance... other tweaks you may want to make on site like volume?
I don't have a video in that order per se but the menu is set up to walk you through that process starting at the bottom and work your way up from selecting a search mode, recovery speed, noise cancel etc. If you follow the menu you can mess it up. However, I will consider doing a video just for that reason. Thanks for the idea.
Thanks for the informational video. Besides adjusting the upper and lower ferrous limits. Is there a way to reject VDIs on the manticore like the equinox or do you only have the option to edit the upper and lower ferrous limits?
Yes and its coming up in my next video. I'm walking you through how to setup a coin program and i'll show how to reject targets but mor importantly how to accept them.
Your bigger iron will tend to show up in the lower regions where your nails etc usually show up in the upper region. I haven't run big iron under the coil yet to confirm.
I'm not going to get into the back and forth over my opinion vs others on this machine. I've learned you die hard 3030 owners are hard nuts to crack and that is no disrespect to 3030 owners. That machine kicks ass for what it can do but if you actually learn this machine and put time on it and learn all the advanced features and how they work together to open up the machine, you might be reborn. Plus, it's a faster machine, lighter, and I don't need decade old software to create custom patterns.
Tim don't worry I have not given up on the Deus II. Just trying to get some helpful stuff out there on these new machines. I'll be turning back towards the D2 at some point.
excellent demo but here is my question everyone who does these demos run 2 objects what if there are lets say five or more 4 bad iron objects and one penny or silver medieval coin mixed in
I have run those tests too and if you engage the stabilser with filter turned on you will pick out the coins but you need to up the recovery speed too.
That machine is too complicated to use. I'll stick to my simple turn on and go Garrett AT Pro which cost $540 and I find coins 10 inches deep. Plus Garrett is the only detectors with the patented Bell Tone which is the sound of money. Been using Garrett for decades and found tons of stuff with it.
That bell tone is awful. Plus you only have a single frequency with the AT Pro. Any detector is "complicated" if you don't spend some time learning how to run it.
@Mental Metal I wont hold my breath.....haha....my dentist does a fine job, just gave him $500 for a root canal that insurance didn't cover...my 1st one...didn't expect that bill.
Where are you getting a Manticore for 500 dollars? LOL. Also, that graph is one of the most important features you could ever have unless you really like digging trash.
Anyone who scolds himself as a professional disqualifies himself with such senseless air tests :D metals lying in the ground are displayed completely differently, this display is useless!
Sure do appreciate a presenter that does't wander all over the place with meaningless content. Thank you for 15 min. of actual information not b.s.
Thank you for your comment. I appreciate it. Glad I could help.
That's very interesting. Minelab shared some of their Multi Frequency tech with Whites in exchange for Whites Target ID graph. This looks like an updated Whites spectra graph used on Whites Spectrum detectors. The Whites spectrum would also show you if you went over an ferrous object and a non-ferrous with a blip on the left from -1 to -100 and on the right of the line from 1-100. This is very familiar with me. I used it for years. Bottle caps would have blips that kinda smear across both side.
Thanks for the comment. You could be right. I'm late to the game when it came to what Whites did in the past. They made some pretty good machines in their day.
Great video, got mine yesterday and went straight out and tried hunting in high conductors mode and I couldn’t find a thing. This was coming from using a whites XLT and DFX for 20 years, had to change it a bit and watch some videos of yours and now it is AMAZING! can’t believe how much better this is than the detectors I was using. Thank you sir.
DFX was my 20 year machine, went to the 800, now considering the manticore.
I'm in Myrtle Beach, SC with my Garrett AT Pro. My Manticore showed yesterday to my home in VA. Very informative videos. I can't wait to get home to set it up now. Please keep putting out the great content. Thanks again!
Right on! Good luck.
Greatness! I’ll be miles ahead when my manticore gets here!
I hope you will be too.
Thank you SO much for this video. In my ultra trashy yard this is information I REALLY needed!
Happy to help.
my Manticore is almost a week old now and i have had great success with it in the dirt. this is what i consider the best explanation so far on this screen...........great vid......thanks
Great to hear!
I like your simple yet direct to the point teaching. I don’t have a detector yet but very much enjoy your lessons.
Thank you
Awesome, thank you and when you are ready give Fort Bedford a call. They will take care of you.
Nice, even for this 40 year swinger....They have really come far over the last 60 years
I have on on the way....😁
That's awesome!
Just about to buy this Manticore and finding their is a ton of tutorials about using it. Very helpful.
Good luck, Fort Bedford Metal Detectors carries them with fast shipping.
I just purchased the Manticore and it arrived yesterday.. excellent presentation.. ! ! ! Now I get the 2D map. Thank you so much.
No problem I hope you enjoy the machine as much as I do. Congrats!
Very useful info Scott! Even though I watch many videos from others, I alway leave yours having learned something new, you are always very clear and informative. This machine seems to me, to be much simpler to understand and navigate than the Deus 2, what a relief. Merry Christmas sir!
Thanks! Glad you finding them helpful. Merry Christmas
This is a brilliant tutorial mate!!
I like your unhurried way, as we need this, we need to understand this machine as much as possible, to get as much out of it as we can. I'll be downloading your vids for my phone and computer so I can quickly access them.
Subbed!
Glen, Doncaster, UK.
Good Job! So glad you posted this video. Watching carefully i see that the crumpled foil appears the same as the nickel on the 2D and that was exactly what I was looking for. If the 2D does not help me differentiate foil or pull tabs from low conductive coins and 10K rings then I'll stick the extra $700 in my pocket, keep my Nox 800 and continue to use my ears more than my eyes.
Agree, if you are basing your decision on my 1 video/1 target then yes you should probably stick to the 800 for now. Man some of you guys are hard to please. But I always tell folks to use what they want, if it works for you then stick w/it. No issues from me. Just trying to help others. This video appears to have helped you make your decision.
@@MentalMetal you are doing an awesome job! and yes, I am only using the data you provided in that one video. I am not hard to please and most certainly I do not want my comment to come across as disparaging to the Manticore or your video. To qualify my comment, I am only a casual detectorist and would not log in the hours required to learn and appreciate the additional signal processing given with the Manticore at this time. I've been looking at a Manticore upgrade for months but they're sold out so I've just been watching videos. There are few videos showing how the 2D can differentiate trash targets from something worth digging. I believe there are clues in the 2D that will help so I'm looking forward to more videos on that subject. Keep up the good work!
Thank you if you are still looking for them, I believe Fort Bedford has some in stock. At least they did today.
Hello Scott! Wishing you and your family a MERRY CHRISTMAS!
Same to you! Merry Christmas
Have to say you explained it so well and even a dimwit like myself understood it all. I take delivery of mine tomorrow and looking forward to getting totally confused. Only downside to the video was we didn't get to meet Rocky. Thanks so much and I look forward to seeing your other videos.
Glad it was helpful! check out the new coin setup I just released over the weekend and you can now see Rocky. He has his own channel th-cam.com/channels/hvfsBWyyW3Y2qVeAuY_k7Q.html
Thanks Scott! This was exactly what I needed. Great explanation. Much appreciated!
Very welcome!
Mine will be here Monday can’t wait … ahhhhh so excited
Congrats!
a complete game changer, fantastic feature
Crazy cool machine
Very helpful! Cant wait to get back out and try this.
Good luck!
Good to see this special MP3.5….. used Nexus Standard Mk11 for a long time before it got broken… Now have the V2 and V3….not for everyone, especially if you like lots of bells and whistles. But raw performance and power they are a dam good machine. I think the low frequency coils achieve good results on the small stuff due to the high transmit power (as opposed to high gain). I also use the SS coils… you might need a level 6 and 7 test to challenges those! These days the Manticore is doing the heavy lifting, but the Nexus comes out for the real deep stuff…. I use the dual 12 inch coil for this work, look forward to seeing more tests from the other side of the pond. Daz (UK)
Thanks for the info on the Nexus, I've never used one so I can't offer anything on it. The Manticore has become my machine of choice over all the others except for relic hunting and the Deus 2 my machine for those conditions.
@@MentalMetal my applolgies…I was commenting on another video and how my unrelated comment end up on your video I have no idea…
Great Video! I just recently received my Manticore, and TBH, I’m fairly novice at the hobby. My other detector is a Gold Monster, a different beast. This video really helped me understand this aspect of the manticore.. Clear, concise, and covered the subject matter well! Look forward to watching your other instructional videos. 👍🏻👍🏻
Welcome aboard! Thank you!
Thanx Scott for the video. Merry christmas to you and thanx for your help in bringing us the manticore closer.
Same to you Martin. Merry Christmas!
Thanks for the tutorial! Ordered mine Friday and now delving into the features. This definitely helps :)
Awesome, I hope you gave my friends at Fort Bedford a chance to earn your business?
Enjoyed the video and you explained it well
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for all the helpful videos. Merry Christmas to you and yours!🌲
Thank you too! I hope you had a great Christmas.
Great feature, thanks for this informative video!
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant unit off the chart.
Great advice. I am still waiting for mine. Looking forward to see what its like
Its a pretty nice detector. I think you will like it.
Great video. The 2D screen was a bit confusing to me, but now makes more sense. Only used my Manticore once so far.
Thanks glad they are helping.
Ugg. I really like that 2D map a lot. But don't want to spend the coin to get it. I was going to get a 900. Upgrading from 600 I sold. 70% of my hunting is on beach and this thing looks fantastic for it.
I haven't used it on the beach yet but I'm seeing great results from others who have.
I own a Etrac and Just bought a Ctx. The more I watch these videos the more I want one. I’m still on the fence and will probably wait until more get out there in the field. Manticore is looking good though.
Its a pretty cool machine. I like it.
Great video thanks for sharing this information!cheers
Thank you for watching.
Cool video sir, im still torn between the 900 and the Manticore, keep up the good work
Thanks 👍
Great explanation of 2D functionality. Meepthem coming
Sorry meant to say keep the video’s coming.
Thanks for the video I'm really thinking of getting one been looking at all kinds of videos pro and cons. I have 4 White's detectors that I flip flop with.
No problem 👍
Very nice Scott!
Thanks!
The Ferrous setting is pretty cool. Talk about some fine tuning on rejecting targets. Thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas ..Peace
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Merry Christmas ⛄. Thanks 👍.
Same to you! Merry Christmas!
Awesome video! I own the CTX as well as the 800, I’m a firm believer after watching all the videos out. This is a hybrid between both of them with faster better technology. I have the manticore on order who knows when I’ll get it but because of a shoulder injury I will be selling my CTX with the three coils unfortunately good machine just can’t handle the weight. That’s why I’m going with a Manticore.
thanks! I think you will enjoy it.
you forgot to mention the ETRAC being into that hibrid, a revamped etrac-ctx
Thanks for your video, you explained the main functions very informatively. I have a question about the discriminator in Manticore.
There are many videos on the Internet where you can see that Manticore shows both trash and gold with the same ID number. Let's say I even saw a video where a person tested a ring weighing 8 grams of 750 fineness and Manticore showed, for example, ID 86, and then he took gold earrings with a fineness of 750 and the ID was 28 ... 32. This is strange behavior for a discriminator. How do you rate the stability of the discriminator readings in Manticore? For example, I had a Tesoro Lobo Supertraq. It is a brilliant detector. And it also has a super discriminator. If I set the discriminator to exclude all metals except gold, then any gold with any alloy and fineness 333 585 and 750 was always seen by it even among a pile of iron trash and I did not have to dig the ground every 2 meters. If the ID readings in Manticore are misleading, then this would be a big problem for me.
Great Video! This helped me better understand the display. Just ordered mine this week and have no idea how long the detectors are taking to get delivered
Glad it helped!
Good info
Thanks for the tutorial
Learn more about han before this
Glad it was helpful!
Great video! Thank you and Merry Christmas!
Same to you! Merry Christmas.
Very helpful, Thanks again
You're welcome!
Wish this 2D screen was on the XPD2 as at this point in time does not have the false problems the Manticore has, if Mindlab sorts that out then it’s going to be on par with D2, Enjoyed watching and love the screen lay out on the Manticore as well as easy setting menu 🥳🥳🥳
Thanks for watching!
Why would u want that on the D2 ? It has the xy screen
Amazing machine.
Yes indeed!
Amazing will be when Minelab fix problem's with iron masking
Very well done. Clear understanding. Except I'm wondering, what kind/type of targets appear in the shaded areas, the one above the ferris line and the one below? Thank you a bunch.
If you are referring to the ferrous limits, I believe you will see big iron show up in the bottom where the nails and smaller iron will be at the top.
@@MentalMetal Yes, thank you 🙂
I’ve been looking everywhere trying work out what the actual difference is between the upper and lower limits. You are the first person that’s actually answered that question!! Thankyou!!
Wish they’d make a 6” coil available for this detector
The M8 is pretty sweet, I'll have some videos coming up on it.
Really like this one!
Thanks!
Wouldnt the dirt between the coil and target alter these numbers some?
Maybe a little and especially the deeper the target gets but the numbers stay pretty close.
Is there a beginners video for first time in the field? How to determine which terrain to use... what order to do things like noise cancel and ground balance... other tweaks you may want to make on site like volume?
I don't have a video in that order per se but the menu is set up to walk you through that process starting at the bottom and work your way up from selecting a search mode, recovery speed, noise cancel etc. If you follow the menu you can mess it up. However, I will consider doing a video just for that reason. Thanks for the idea.
Would it be possible to show how to set the upper limit to mask out equipment poles in tot lots?
I think that would be hard to do but I'll mess around and see.
Thanks for the informational video. Besides adjusting the upper and lower ferrous limits. Is there a way to reject VDIs on the manticore like the equinox or do you only have the option to edit the upper and lower ferrous limits?
Yes and its coming up in my next video. I'm walking you through how to setup a coin program and i'll show how to reject targets but mor importantly how to accept them.
So if the target is showing up far left or right.. does that determine if its trach or not? I just got my Manticore and learning all I can
Hail M a n t i c o r e. . . I'm in.
You will enjoy it.
I plan on getting a really good metal detector in the very near future. Do you recommend the Manticore or a similar one? Thanks a million!
I enjoy the Manticore, Nox 900, Deus 2, etc. It really depends on your type of hunting.
@MentalMetal
Thanks a million for answering me back. I truly appreciate your feedback and honesty about my upcoming purchase. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing
My pleasure
Looks like the Etrac screen. But set up is like my F75. Coolness. Does it do gold?
If you are asking if it finds gold the answer is yes.
great video thanks
You are welcome!
What happens on the pinpoint mode.
Very helpful video, thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Cool!
Perfect
Generally speaking, do you have some idea what usually shows up in the upper and lower ferrous regions.
Your bigger iron will tend to show up in the lower regions where your nails etc usually show up in the upper region. I haven't run big iron under the coil yet to confirm.
Has this machine impressed you out in real world conditions?
It has but the weather has kept me from doing more w/it. I'm still learning the machine.
It also resembles the e-trec.
Perhaps, I never used one.
the 2d graph is very much alike, its obvious they got it from the etrac and upgraded it a bit
How do u honestly like it over the CTX3030?
I'm not going to get into the back and forth over my opinion vs others on this machine. I've learned you die hard 3030 owners are hard nuts to crack and that is no disrespect to 3030 owners. That machine kicks ass for what it can do but if you actually learn this machine and put time on it and learn all the advanced features and how they work together to open up the machine, you might be reborn. Plus, it's a faster machine, lighter, and I don't need decade old software to create custom patterns.
How do you like the manticore so far ? Is it worth it ?
I like it but its a toss up between my Deus II and the Manticore.
@@MentalMetal if you would have to buy one which one would it be between these two?
Deus 11 all the way .Young man
I love my Deus II
Tim don't worry I have not given up on the Deus II. Just trying to get some helpful stuff out there on these new machines. I'll be turning back towards the D2 at some point.
@Harry I love mine too.
Both excellent machines...
Im bright green, still waiting for it to ship lol but that 2d looks bad az compared to other screens
excellent demo but here is my question everyone who does these demos run 2 objects what if there are lets say five or more 4 bad iron objects and one penny or silver medieval coin mixed in
I have run those tests too and if you engage the stabilser with filter turned on you will pick out the coins but you need to up the recovery speed too.
BOA TARDE AMIGO.
Rapaz se vc traduzido em Português iria ser muito nas TOP e Teria muito mais visualização, mas ficou TOP
Coffee with Scott rules
I had a good cup this morning myself. Thanks for watching my friend.
@@MentalMetal Right on, call Saturdays show "Coffee with Scott".
That machine is too complicated to use. I'll stick to my simple turn on and go Garrett AT Pro which cost $540 and I find coins 10 inches deep. Plus Garrett is the only detectors with the patented Bell Tone which is the sound of money. Been using Garrett for decades and found tons of stuff with it.
Nothing wrong with sticking with what you know.
That bell tone is awful. Plus you only have a single frequency with the AT Pro. Any detector is "complicated" if you don't spend some time learning how to run it.
All I want for Christmas is a coiltek coil on a Manticore and my 2 front teeth.....
Next video.. I have a good dentist I can recommend.
@Mental Metal I wont hold my breath.....haha....my dentist does a fine job, just gave him $500 for a root canal that insurance didn't cover...my 1st one...didn't expect that bill.
You have a cheap dentist, I just go the bill for cap that my insurance company "did" cover.
Exactly what I meant....
$500 dollars for a 2d graph you will probably never use !!! Pass
That is the good thing, you have a choice to pass.
Where are you getting a Manticore for 500 dollars? LOL. Also, that graph is one of the most important features you could ever have unless you really like digging trash.
Anyone who scolds himself as a professional disqualifies himself with such senseless air tests :D
metals lying in the ground are displayed completely differently, this display is useless!
ahh the only thing useless is this comment. Go find another channel to troll or put up your own videos.
Scolds himself? I don't think that's the word you're going for, Einstein.