How Bad Ping Helped an Onliner Perfect CS:GO's Deadliest Peek
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Competitive shooters are filled with ways to both peek your opponents and, well, pop their melon.
From wide swings to stutter steps to so-called ‘quick leans’, it’s pretty much gotten to the point where the age-old practice of clapping kids around corners has been elevated to not only a science but an artform.
In Counter-Strike, for instance, the culture of peeking has given way to, well, actual cults. Don’t believe me? Just run a quick search in the Steam groups tab.
But there is no patented peek across the whole of esports that is as feared and fabled as the one that started this trend.
The one that belongs to İsmailcan ‘XANTARES’ Dörtkardeş, the Turkish onliner who’s spent years solidifying himself as the sickest online-born aimbot CS:GO has ever seen.
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"Only Xantares can kill me like this" is a huge compliment
I thought it was “no way” yeah?
ESPECIALLY from S1mple
Especially from simple
2:40
From the GOAT too
Love getting XANAXTARES peeked
wow joispoi
I prefer your "GG go lose fast" profile tag
kiss markow for me :)
Keep talking say something smart
Monke
Xantares must be enjoying the online era, doesn’t have to deal with “do it on LAN” shouts
That's why I can't wait for Studio Cologne
Back to the top 20 BIG
@@Asviix he's not even playing on bad connection anymore lol
@@kex1337 4 tournament wins in 2020, all four online, what are you talking about?
He's really good on lan rn.
Xantares' mum gave birth to him and felt pain 5 seconds afterwards
Yes that is how birth works
@@pejperuuu WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
She was on 200 ping
@@Mo-kl4fb funny reddit man
@@yhjkjklmm6679 delet le ledit
His peeking skills make me both disgusted and utterly impressed.
It's mostly his connection. Really bad ping can be as much of an advantage as really good ping.
@@seanbailey8545 his ping was bad only at his early career. Now he has great ping Germany. But even with reasonable ping he still is the best peeker by far
@@ApostropheYT thats not true though. Most effective way of peeking is smooth like zywoos. Xantares has the most robotic aim and peek but smoothness will always beat the robotaim in terms of consistency
@@seanbailey8545 it's not about the ping, it's reflexes.. you can't really improve after you reach ur skill ceiling
@@hsdfafgh8287 xantares peek = ferrari peek = best peek against awp or any gun actually.
Finally, the story of a person no pro wants to peek!
Or more like no pro wants to be peeked by
@@D0rlisok unironically both
@@sugeknight2664 true
@@sugeknight2664 I can tell niko is good, but niko team is better than xantares team
@@sugeknight2664 check out xantares vs simple 1v1 with 500 bet in xantares channel. God i love niko but he is not entry fragger, even xantares is better than tarik both are muslim and tarik won a major xantares is not.
“Xantares was born in bad ping”
Me trying to figure out how 47 ping is bad
me lived with 129~270ms ping before 2014
@@p0xygen I play with 10-15 ping.... sari
It's mostly over 70ms. Sometimes you can see under 50 but it's rare. I can't get under 80 ms ping in official servers.
47 ping for pro is bad..
Mine is always 45+ lol
the amount of "peek" clans i've seen makes me want to end it all
Especially if they spell it wrong. Like "peak" wrong. Just makes me wanna commit not living.
Why does the comment above this have a pokemon pfp
@@akiharuse825 i want to un-alive myself
@@alexandar8798 I prefer the term "game-end".
@@gordonroke9533 i Drew it in paint as a meme
hey that's me
9:50
Yessir
you're cool
Vooxgo!
Congrats, you just got even more famous
voo!
“Go to Germany and sh*t on people using an actual internet connection.”-As a German, it sounds so weird to hear the words “actual internet connection” as a description of German internet …
you gotta know how bad turkish internet is
Germany has Servers for faceit and mm, Turkey has not. If we compare even 25 mbps in Germany vs 200 mbps in Turkey, 25 mbps german internet will get less ping due to Server being in Germany. Thats why.
@@CanBonamaVEVO That’s a reasonable explanation. Obviously, distance between client and server will increase the latency. I hadn’t considered server location and I didn’t know that were no servers in or at least in somewhat close proximity to Turkey. Thanks.
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw well, i dunno. Mine is good. But there is something like corruption thing about the internet as everything else in this country. So probably they are doing the bad routin and frequent disable of internet and since they have the majority of clients it might seem like the Turkish internet is bad. But its Just provider is bad.
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw + much expensive versus european :) Bad ınternet but we must be pay more ahahah ı ever seen 30-40 pıng my all lıfe.
They finally did Xantares
He doesnt deserve one when you see all the other pros that did far more and got nothing
true finally
@@lobyaislife3654 That's the thing, Xantares has accomplished almost nothing but he's known as one of the deadliest pros in the game and he literally has the most feared peek in the game named after him. And they clearly wanted to put in other shit about peeking aswell based off the video.
Unfortunately this is a channel for kids who only know mainstream players like tenz, Niko, scream etc, but they have no idea that mechanically xantares is way above them all
@@petyrbaelish2086 NiKo >>> onlinetares stop living in ur delusion, i agree with the others you named though.
Watch the 1v1 between simple and xantares. Xantares won 16-3 and 16-11. This guy's aim is no joke.
niko lost to woxic in 1v1, aim isn't everything
@@yhjkjklmm6679 yeah nobody's denying that. Zywoo doesn't even DM. Even xantares himself said “1v1 aimmap is something else” in his turkish streams after seeing the shock of viewers.
And then xantares lost against smooya , aim-map isn't everything lol
I literally have time travel and teleportation capabilites on my dial-up internet
Why does the comment below this have a pokemon pfp
@@happyhamburger4543 whi is this still correct
@@happyhamburger4543 Now it's the other way around
why does the comment above this have a Pokemon pfp
@@Id0ntkn0wanym0r3 above you is a horse
Well, finally a XANTARES video and you just didnt even mention how inhuman his reactions and how good his crosshair placement. His flicks are amazing tho which is pretty hard to do with mouse acceleration. Despite all this, all you were saying was like he didnt do anything special and became the most feared player to be peeked by with just cause of bad ping. Also, in the years of his BIG career, he has been playing around 15 ping and his peek has gained the most fame in these years
well said
+1
True the ping is just an excuse for players who don’t like to get peaked like that
@cazil004 mouse-acceleration. If you have that active, your mouse wil flick further the faster you flick. pretty good in fast stuff like quake, but in cs you want consistency, so you turn that option off, and your flicks go the exact same distance allways, regardless of speed. Hope to have cleared that up.
Also, what the actual fuck is the rest of your comment about?!
@@theblakwarior mouse acceleration isnt hard. Try it out yourself. Played with Mouse acc. on for 7000kills each on Scout and deagle.
On Low sens it helps u a lot with fast flicks while maintaing the possibility of tracking the enemy.
I'm still not over the fact that there's csgo content like this. I appreciate you guys!
i died laughing when he said ER DOGAN peek
Yep, not even Turkish, still feel like you should be able to pronounce a world leader's name. Small thing but like, Google it bro.
@@sEaNoYeAh not really a world leader that westerners would need to know
@@sEaNoYeAh Hes dictator not world leader lol
@@KarMa-qb4zo not really, he was elected. Even though he isn't a good president he is still a president
@@jacobdaniels3246 how so ?
3:16 isnt that xantares spectating yekindar
yeap
@theScore esports, pls fix
noob error yeah
shhh its a 1 second clip they wont notice right?
"..due to bad ping ..." continues to show clips with less than 50 ping.
As a Turkish player, I lived my life playing between 100-120 ping.. so did XANTARES. Therefore he was born to it, he developed his playstyle around it. And now since he is a top 10 professional player he has access to the greatest internet connection Turkey has to offer, which is 50 ping. Best connection money can buy is 50 ping which is very very bad for professional level where milliseconds count. So shut the fuck up
@@minecraft123azra very nice kid on internet ...btw did the video show any clips of him playing on above 100 ping i wont shut the fuck up cuz this is not ur channel u dont pay for my internet
sure the bad ping did play a part in developing his skills but he didnt shine in the online era considering ur theory of xantares being a god in online CS. he just knows his angles all too well and prefires .thats what good cs players do. there are lots of good peekers in this online era like Yekindar so and so..do they all have a bad ping backstory?...this bad ping is just a bedtime stories this esports media adopted to get attention.
@@N.jA.z I don't think there are a single footage of him playing with 100ms ping. Cause this guy always stream and when he stream he has good internet. And obviously he didn't stream when he has like 100ms ping 🤔 is that make sense?
@cazil004 lmao it counts as cheating. xantares's ping is always around 40-50 (as you can see in net_graph)
lmao erdogan peek, fastest tax collector
SESLI GULDUM !!!
İçeri atacaklar knk
Hey Dimitri, I remember the backlash on the amount of swearing in the script a few months ago. I see how u still manage to work that and your personality into the vids without it getting too much. Crazy progress on the quality of writing/presenting, I see u
comments on the old ScreaM video was brutal lmao
Wait, people actually tilted from swearing? KEKW
@@pepsiboy4274 nah it just sounded unnatural and cringe
I have been lucky to see this man warming up in a LAN tournament (watching right behind his back what he is doing) and it is just amazing to see.
I have played CS:GO many years in a quite high level and even played against some of the pro players, but seeing XANTARES warming up and to compare that mechanic skill to mine.. It feels like he's from another planet. Easily one of the best aimers of all time.
I'm shocked this didn't come earlier this guy is so fun to watch
The secret is that having high ping also delays your commands getting to the server and other players. Since shot registry is client side, however, you can see and shoot your opponent without their client even having received from the server your movement command yet. This provides an advantage on aggression if you know how to leverage it. Basically, if you have 200 ping to the server, you see other players a good ping 120ms before their client even receives the command that you're moving. When you initiate movement close to the corner, preaiming, fire and immediately return to cover, that delay plus client-side interpolation makes a full peek look like a shoulder peek on the opponent's client. Beating it is simple in theory, though, because they have that same disadvantage against someone else peeking. So the key against them is to be in control of when encounters occur, even on defense.
Most of all of these kills have nothing to do with this advantage -- most are just him having good aim, recoil control, and being able to control engagements. Basically, the skills you get from a lot of DM. Wide peeking like a body width or two out from the corner isn't helping him because of ping though. Wide peeking like that takes away any advantage that he has from ping. It's just not what pros expect or practice for at that level of play. These are two separate issues. The issue with Xantares in normal play where he doesn't have the peeker's advantage, he's just leaning on level 1 movement with level 10 aim to throw them off and tilt them. It's working for now, but he's going to have to grow as a player to remain competitive, because people will adjust to his weird playstyle, and he'll start losing more and more gunfights if he doesn't.
XANTARES one of my favorite players of all time. Great video
❤️
when you're so good that they name a peek after you.
I am surely convinced I came up with Ferrari peek as the first one haha.
I am into racing and somewhere around 2016 somebody straight up murdered me on Cobblestone. Like indeed only seeing an elbow and before I could click I was dead before I could see him wide swinging. So I typed in all chat "wtf is that *(actually thinking about a new term rather than Xantarespeek)* Ferrari peek man!" (Ferrari is my favourite brand and team in F1). Up to that point never heard of that term. After a few weeks I heard it more and more here and there.
So yea... My contribution to life. Thank you.
The title maker needs a raise
Watching Xantares clear and peek corners is therapeutic.
yes it is, yes it is
Xantares is like Snax. They haven’t won the greatest player ever award like Kenny or Simple, but everyone respects them so much no matter where they play.
Imagine telling a turkish that Turkey it is under-develop nd they just starts wipping out the stick and ice cream cone
Hahaha good one
@@danthelongman haha thx
he meant gaming. lul
nah, majority of people here in turkey also jokes about how shit the country is only ones that do what u say is the ones who live outside of the country and get manipiluated easily
He definitely meant the progress of the gaming scene but I still appreciate your joke 😝
Valve implements lag compensation so that players with high ping can at least have a chance. Basically the guy with high ping peeking you will see you before you can see him. Even with decent ping(xantares has been living in Germany for a long time now. He has 20 ping in most clips in this video) the effect is noticeable. It's why people think they are getting prefired when they really aren't. If you get prefired online，you don't even see the enemy player model like the clip at @2:41
There is no lag compensation on LAN though. That's why pros gets salty and say “see you on LAN”.
I’m pretty sure peeker’s advantage also comes into play, as I don’t think any online FPS can get rid of that
@@bruhh489 isn't peeker`s advantage just lag compensation? Does it exist on LAN ?
@@sciuresci1403 I’m pretty sure it’s just an innate thing that happens in online games due to server side and client side connections shenanigans. I don’t think it happens at LAN though as there isn’t multiple players with different server connections.
So if the lag compensation is something implemented by Valve then I don’t think it would be the same thing, as it happens regardless in any online game like this.
didnt even touch on his inhuman crosshair placement or mouse acceleration. Just "high ping and good aim make him GOOD XDXDXDXDXD"
He uses mouse acceleration wut lmao
what is mouse acceleration
@@ofenomenor9924 It changes the mouse sensitivity based on how fast you move the mouse. It's the bane of establishing muscle memory.
@@nexus1g Is it like response curve?
@@nexus1g you can see it quite obviously from his aim. very still, slow tracking and preaiming but very fast flicks
that shot at 5:42 was absolutely godlike. Cant believe that was against OG virtus pro too
2:46 best compliment to receive from the best
8:10 Nice Bane quote
"current" president of turkey
eternal president of turkey
My internet connection is so bad, that a person in Turkey still has a better ping than me in the middle of Europe...
A Person from southern spain has better ping on polish servers than me (i am from poland)
Tarik complaining about “106 ms” when I have 500 ping anytime my mom watches Netflix and my internet goes through a phone
Meant to say phone line but I had a stroke
His insane skill aside, he also has one of the coolest names in the biz imo. Awesome playstyle and aim, plus a dope name?!
I pop my enemies cherries. They call me the rapist.
44 ms lmao , that's what I usually have and it's so good compared to my older 80+ ms
Yo I play on cellular data the pain is real
@@derekbedard909 I feel u
@@derekbedard909 same
Xantares on his interview @ 11:45 also adds that he saw that the players of BIG were hungry for success and he really wanted to be surrounded with that mentality.
"bad ping" all clipes showing 40 ping at maximum hahahahhaha in brazil, less then 100 is very very good
In africa having 100 ping is being rich lol
Lol no, I only see 5-40 ping here
I constantly asked myself where the high ping is in that video. - Some years ago, here in Germany i had a ping of 80ms with spikes up to 300ms every 5-30 seconds. That's bad
when he started he had bad ping which made him develop his playstyle, now he plays with good ping
@@OmarLh685 fr
For people who are watching this - do not believe a single thing that has been said about "high ping" in this video, if you're thinking about CS:GO. About most other games - yes, high ping will be your doom, not CS:GO.
In this game netcode works slightly differently than in most games, and there is a reason why high pingers out-peak you. When you get agressively peaked by a high pinger, on your screen it looks like he just started moving out of a corner and headshotted you whilst moving in full speed, when in reality he moved out, already stopped to a place he wanted, and made 1-2 shots. In short, in CS:GO the server FORCES a low ping player wait for the updated information from the high ping player. If the high ping player is roughly above 100-120 ping, he has a STRONG peaker's advantage, that not many people realise. This is lag compensation at work, which works slightly differently than in other games - in CSGO, Valve is trying to "level" the playing field for high and low pingers, but it actually backfires, as neither get gameplay sattisfaction.
I've played both Quake2, Quake3, CoD and many other titles with antilag, or so called lag compensation, and the only by-product in those games is that you get "shot around corners", and from many games I've tried - Quake3 is the most forgiving and doesn't feel bad. In CSGO, it's just hilarious how some people with high ping jolt out of a corner and instantly headshot you, even though
your crosshair placement is perfect and all you have to do is click on their head. You dont even have time to click. And I checked it on community servers, where they modded so you have kill-cams, it's hilarious to see yourself standing there like an idiot without reaction from enemy's perspective, when in reality you could not phisicly react because of how the netcode works.
It is beyond my understanding how CSGO's community is not in an absolute revolt about the netcode, because it is more than broken. I have a sneaky suspicion people falsely blame tickrate for it, and have no understanding about lag compensation and interpolation, what it does and how is it twisted to work in this game. Or people are just so numb that they don't feel it. I can only imagine how people suffer with worse gear - imagine someone with higher latency mouse, 60-120hz, lower FPS, like 100, trying to play CS:GO. They probably think they're bad at the game.
It takes nothing from Xantares, obviously an amazing player. However, if you take a look at his online frags displayed in this video, you'll notice his opponents barely react to him peaking, because no human can react to CS:GO's netcode, whilst vs. high pingers. 10:28 is an amazing example - you can see that he peaked, made a shot and was already moving backwards behind the wall, and you couldn't react to it. If it was any other game - a high pinger like him would not be able to do it EVER. As a low pinger you'd see him first, and shoot him first, even with antilag on. If you ask me - CSGO has the most infuriating and non-logical antilag systems of any game out there, and it forces to change your gameplay and how you hold angles so much, it's hilarious. And if you go to a LAN - all your skill and how you hold angles against high pingers does not matter anymore, you're ON LAN, and you have to play it totally differently. Stupidity beyond belief.
The fact that this video is preaching nonsense about high ping on CS:GO in particular, is a mark of incompetence on technical basis, and makes you wonder whether they play the game themselves. And if they do, are they that numb and do not feel it ? Technical forums are full of information, and even documented film footage of high pingers advantage for peeking. Do your research for god's sake.
14:32 nice backflip cadian
i love how up until minute 10 the actual topic of the video wasnt even actually mentioned :)
Imagine they one day make a video about XANTARES mouse acceleration lol would be cool to learn it
It’s the same as no mouse accel
Its just really hard to pick up because it’s all about muscle memory
What is mouse acc ?
@@soleilbaal1198 basically how fast you move your mouse, more far your cursor goes
Soleil Baal
Mouse acceleration is basically if you move ur mouse slow it’s only move like 200 pixels
But if you wip it really fast (the same distance) its gonna go flying more than 400 pixels
6:25 As an argentinian that hits close to home, literally, we have them as neighbours and they dont seem to know there are more weapons than the p90
talking about bad ping and xantarex perfecting that -> shows lan scene
welcome to balkan cs gaming 30 - 70 ping if your internet provider is doing their job
Xantares one of my favorite players. Unic style...hope he comes back with woxic. Mouz fan and I like BIG. Was nice to see them playing.
well, at the dreamhack Leipzig 2020 they also won even tho it was a lan event. This dude is insane if lan or online
inconsistent is the issue
this peak is a dream to achieve, but a nightmare to have
i've been waitin for this one, getting peeked
It's called peeker's advantage and is well documented by VALORANT dev team for example. Basically every competitive FPS game suffers from it more or less.
10:31 how he says "Mr. Xantares" is fireeee
How is 40 ping bad? Im used to like 80 to 100
bro 5:45 actually looked like aimbot this dude is nuts
Xantaras is a god even on lan, one of my favorite players to watch. I know it’s annoying to see players act wild with a connection but his confidence and aggression is near perfect
It is not that people do not have an actual internet connection in Turkey, it is because servers are far away, and no matter what infrastructure your provider has you have a high ping.
Really good video, I love it.
I love seeing xantares getting some recognition. I long to see him at the top of the world's csgo stage.
15:44 That quote made my day xD
The right pronunciation of his name is: ismaeeljan dortkardesh : it means dear ismail four brother!
After hearing the name erdogan peek im just dead
Damn. Just realized old a4 sounds like a beast
old ak aswell
Considering this man is now top 8 in the first cs2 major and still destroying. I’d say it translated nicely
give those silvers with 100+ ping a good internet and they will become global in 2 days
"We see big entering the stage after so much success online, hoping to.... wait are they all carrying a single, hundred meter long Ethernet cable wrapped around their waist?"
that clip of canadian losing his mind is amazing
The name of xantares cannot be pronounced worse than this.
How is it pronounced?
I love how you try to sound as confident as possible reading the name and you still fuck it up...
meh, 50 ping isnt high tho
My ping is usually like 17. Anything higher than 24 makes me lag hard.
@@elliottdavies3528 lol, keep tellin' that yourself.
@@goldcraft1337 What does that even mean?
@@elliottdavies3528 You just imagine being worse with a few ms more. That's all in your mind.
@@goldcraft1337 Yes. That is the case with me. When I'm playing CS:GO, if the ping increases just by 2 or 3, I get thrown around and I will most likely die to the lag.
not only his peek was incredible also he is raw aim and his spray control ... always flawless
This aged like milk
Online Era was the BIG Clan Era
Xantares chilling in Online
But when CSGO slowly returned to normal
BIG just fell down to obscurity
CS:GO really needs a hall of fame
"omg that's dirty" said by tenz
but in LAN
crowd: "omg that's choking" xd
MashaAllah Xantares abi has been for a very long time the king of FPL, even s1mple and Niko say that about him.
He taught us so much csgo which we didn't know. The art of not giving a f*** and peeking angles so wide it will surprises any opponent
Hobbit put it in the very best way, when you see his playstyle you can notice how he treats the game like its a regular deathmatch.. and he dominates unlike any other player, so unorthodox yet so effective and awesome
If high ping made you good, everyone who remembers dialup would be gods
0:17 "clapping kids around the corner💀"
Calling 49 ping high..must be pretty cozy out there
Now im going full monke with my 150ms while my family is watching netflix
3:16 yekindar is so good omg
When you're name says 'can', you know you can.
1:18 hey thats me
Finally a positive real youtuber that seems be healthy And see xantares as a real nr top 5 player in csgo well i always saw this guy a nr top 3 player in csgo ... thnx for this bro
11:43 no he is saying he noticed that BIG is like a family and is hungry for success and that is why he joined them. totally wrong translation.
это потрясающе, мне всегда нравится твой стиль, братан)))
I'm feeling thank you
- Xantares
A legend once said "Adapt to the situation and make it your advantage."
Xan used to kill me on palace so much back in the day, that i refused to push A side in a 4v1, man is a savant...
you know you're a good player when the god of cs himself recognizes you and speaks of what you do super highly
You merely adopted the bad ping
"How Bad Ping Helped an Onliner Perfect CS:GO's Deadliest Peek".
Ping 47
having 200 ping unlocks the ability “teleport peek” where you peek and kill them but on their screen you just appear out in the open.
absolutelly every akx, dmg or lem in MM peeking against me:
There’s one thing you need to know…
XANTARESPEEK!
So the takeaway is:
1. Play a shit ton of death match
2. Play on high ping servers
3. Be super aggressive
4. Win
Well shit I've been playing CS and Valorant wrong
Video about Xantares with a quote from Batman: The Dark Knight Rises?
I can't even ask for more
man I miss the old gun sounds of csgo. they were so crispy🤌🏼
Man i looove the old sound of the ak and m4