There is a big difference. The avenger stays together ,the phantom blows up . Because of side window lubrication , from not having windows on the intake taking away lubrication from the bearing
Correct super Mike. It is clone to the Stihl ms380 piston. The true upgrade piston is the ms44052mm cut your own slotted windows or go without and straight intake with a19mm carb and custom pipe
Actually the avenger cylinder leaves much room for porting giving it the mid range and power it's lacking. Personal experience as an owner of the Avenger 85 and Phantom85 V3 engine
Ahhh yea Rauls shop talk. 👍 put pistons side by side up side down looking at underside of dome. There casted from different molds. Yes one has windows and other don't. But definitely the pistons don't come from same molds just saying
@@RaoulDuke224 I like Rauls shop talk. Especially when you don't hump something or make slurping sounds. Keep up the good work. Hopefully one day you'll get your mad motor . project Raul x super motor on a bike. And not get hurt.
Hey Raoul, if any1 knows this answer it may be you. I stuffed my yd100 case from the Phantom85. Top chopped, regular head. Want a real Stihl piston. Ordered the ms461 and rist pin to top is +4mm height. No go. What piston to use?
If one piston was a transvestite, you wouldn't be able to tell which is which. (The tranny 85 engine) Since they don't have any adams apples 🍏 But if they did, the trans piston could grind it off with a dremel.
the rings are different the phantom has thicker rings ,,they are not the same as the factory stihl piston.......stop all that cussing we dont need all that either
Theyre insanely different bro what... have you looked at the ports between the phantom and the avenger85? Not even close.. the phantom is a closed transfer port and avenger isnt. Avenger even has dual windows on each side. Idk how you could say theres no difference. Avenger has 1 ring phantom has 2.... theres so many differences that im annoyed youre spreading false info. Just because theyre both 52mm doesnt mean shit bro
There is a big difference. The avenger stays together ,the phantom blows up .
Because of side window lubrication , from not having windows on the intake taking away lubrication from the bearing
I don't think that's the problem I think it the phantom stock head cylinder is garbage!
The avenger 85 update video th-cam.com/video/C08eG0mF8yQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=GscvQB17Me37wcJx
@@RaoulDuke224 Windows on the front of the piston are not a factory design. Only on the side. Just change it and the problem is solved.
Correct super Mike. It is clone to the Stihl ms380 piston. The true upgrade piston is the ms44052mm cut your own slotted windows or go without and straight intake with a19mm carb and custom pipe
Actually the avenger cylinder leaves much room for porting giving it the mid range and power it's lacking. Personal experience as an owner of the Avenger 85 and Phantom85 V3 engine
Ahhh yea Rauls shop talk. 👍 put pistons side by side up side down looking at underside of dome. There casted from different molds. Yes one has windows and other don't. But definitely the pistons don't come from same molds just saying
Thanks for the info
@@RaoulDuke224 I like Rauls shop talk. Especially when you don't hump something or make slurping sounds. Keep up the good work. Hopefully one day you'll get your mad motor . project Raul x super motor on a bike. And not get hurt.
@@2strokecarbtuningportingin187 might be faster than Leonard
@@RaoulDuke224 💯 % will beat Lennards. never gonna get his motor on bike. Sadly I won't be living by time he does.
@@2strokecarbtuningportingin187 lmao
Good informative video 👍👍
Yep that's right
Hey where did you get the single ring Ms 380 piston from? I can't seem to find one I would like a spare for my avenger 85
It's a Husquavarna chainsaw piston one ring 272XP I forgot to correct myself sorry about that
Is not the phantom cylinder body better designed for the reed valve set up?
Duke your the man I watch all your shit brother love your channel
Thanks
Hey Raoul, if any1 knows this answer it may be you. I stuffed my yd100 case from the Phantom85. Top chopped, regular head. Want a real Stihl piston. Ordered the ms461 and rist pin to top is +4mm height. No go. What piston to use?
1:58 wrist pin*
The avenger 85 update video th-cam.com/video/C08eG0mF8yQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=GscvQB17Me37wcJx
Wrist pin on the V3 Phantom85 is a needle bearing. No longer the cheap ass ready to burn brass bushing
Raoul have you tried case stuffing the Phantom85 aka yd100/ymn100 block?
No but I know how to fix the issue and problems with the motors
My avenger 85 only came with one clip for the part the pin goes in and the bearing for the piston. Is that normal I thought it was supposed to be two?
I have been saying this for the last 2 years lol
Yeah I know mister know it all hehehehe
@@RaoulDuke224 What's the difference in price between the two pistons?
@@RaoulDuke224Bbf has been making quality videos for several yrs. He's a quality rebuilder. Bad part, he's gone to electric
If one piston was a transvestite, you wouldn't be able to tell which is which. (The tranny 85 engine) Since they don't have any adams apples 🍏 But if they did, the trans piston could grind it off with a dremel.
Lmao you funny
All the xhinese engines are trans.
Look at Raoul, he made a baofeng a Honda ...
@@leonardarola wtf Leonard
@@leonardarola my motorized bicycle engines are not transgender!
the rings are different the phantom has thicker rings ,,they are not the same as the factory stihl piston.......stop all that cussing we dont need all that either
Hey it's my channel
Husqvarna 272xp piston 52mm single piston ring
It's a sthil chainsaw MS380 also Will work!
The avenger 85 update video th-cam.com/video/C08eG0mF8yQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=GscvQB17Me37wcJx
This is what happensbwhen cousin marry lol
Theyre insanely different bro what... have you looked at the ports between the phantom and the avenger85? Not even close.. the phantom is a closed transfer port and avenger isnt. Avenger even has dual windows on each side. Idk how you could say theres no difference. Avenger has 1 ring phantom has 2.... theres so many differences that im annoyed youre spreading false info. Just because theyre both 52mm doesnt mean shit bro
I said the pistons are the same I didn't say the engines were
Dont take credit for the smoliks crap