My sister worked on the Tonight Show and was invited to the Tokyo Drift premier. Upon leaving in her automatic BMW Z3 she was pulled over and arrested for “street racing” a Miata. From what she says is that the Miata pulled up at a stop light and revved so messing around she did it back. Light turned green and the Miata took off. Cop pulled her over. Arrested and car impounded. She fought it in court and won. That was the last time she accepted a invite for a F&F movie.
Craig is right here I have been over 180 on public roads to many times to count but only on highways when there is little to no traffic around preferably at night...ive been on gold rush 2018 and 19 and have had a blast and you certainly get rowdy on runs like that as well and when people are acting as a group and get each other worked up that's when bad things can happen you don't know the other drivers capabilities and that can lead to bad things I it's not me I'm worried about it's everyone else I try to get away from everyone and ride on my own I feel better as I am much more in control.... another problem is if your going fast and just cruising like 120 or so not necessary reckless like heavy weaving and riding on the shoulders etc. you'll often get someone dips**t in a genesis v6 mustang or even an accord trying to keep up with you trying to race you I'm in a 720s my car is made to do those kinds of speeds like its nothing and can stop in short time from high speed and maneuver quickly the likely hood of them doing something and getting you tied up with them is very high in that case it pisses me off to no end just be careful car friends and don't overestimate your or your car's capabilities it likely won't end well... P.S. don't incriminate your self on social media, THERES A REASON WHY YOU WONT FIND ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA!!! and yeah government f'off I will always figure out a way to disable your b.s. "equipment" you can't out smart software engineers....
As a bonus what seems to happen most often is the guys doing the takeovers get away free and clear and what happens after that is police issue loads more "47 in a 45" or "your (stock) exhaust sounded loud even though I can't measure it" tickets to people who had nothing to do with the takeover to prove to the community that they're taking the problem seriously.
I feel social media ruined the "innocence" of car scene. It used to be a handful of actual enthusiasts having some relatively harmless fun at night cruising down empty backroads. Now its a bunch of wanna be gangsta's wanting to look cool for the gram while committing vehicular assault and destroying their cars, utter betas. Sad that us real enthusiasts still exist but all get dumped into the same category.
Honestly, as a car guy, I'm glad about this. Side shows are stupid as hell. Its just a bunch of irresponsible morons spinning donuts for attention and clout. All so people can get hurt and so they can wreak their cars.
These take overs are stupid... crazy dangerous and risky for all involved. Industrial estates or backroads are where its still done quietly but still illegally
Already the gouvernement is pissing away taxpayer dollars on useless shit. Not to mention they’re deficit spending because of huge amounts of debt the country owes.
The police here in Charlotte just did this recently. They apparently had been monitoring "organized street races" since Feb/Mar collecting evidence. In June, they showed up to a bunch of houses at 6:00am and arrested them and seized their cars. In total, I believe there were 50 arrests and 60 cars taken. I have personally always avoided any meets or events where idiots start racing, swinging, or doing burn outs. However, being involved in the car community here I do have two friends who did have their cars taken. Both are unsure whether they will ever get their cars back. Its a hard lesson, especially since we are in the NASCAR capital and have racetracks all over the place here...everyones excuse is "they are expensive to race at". Probably a lot cheaper than having your brand new MK5 Supra seized by the police and still having to pay for it regardless.
This is what happens when the police run everyone out of empty parking lots at 230 am. They move to the street. Nobody is going to get hurt that didn't choose to be there. Nobodies car is going to get hurt if it isn't in or near the intersection. It would be better if there were giant empty paved spots that people could use at night... charge admission, make it more for a car than a person so the ones actually using the pavement up are paying more for it.
@@MidwestDankAlumni Why not address the substance of the argument instead of arguing semantics? Are American liberals not the ones pushing for communism? For people who love to change the definitions of words when convenient it seems strange to draw this line, but I suppose it's because you know communism is indefensible.
My street racing days ('07-'08) were always like this: Meet up in an industrial park chosen that day, meetup time was around midnight, we pick the drivers, we pick the spot (typically a highway race), and do a rolling start at 70kph, and race til the designated overpass. Rarely did standing quarters, but they happened on a specific bridge in a specific industrial area. I won a couple slips back in the day on that bridge. Good times. People today are 100% stupid for doing street racing like they are now.
Takeovers ruin the car community. Most of them aren't real Car Enthusiasts. The most they'll do is wrap or change the exhaust on their car and call it a day with something to prove.
I don’t want governments to build us a race track, I want governments to tell residents to back off when they complain about a race track. They willingly moved into the area of that race track and then whine and complain. That’s our problem!
I'll admit it. When you first started making videos I thought you were just trying to cash in on your involvement from The Fast and The Furious. I'm happy to say to was completely wrong. You've become one of my favorite car TH-camrs and all because of your thorough and quality content. Cheers.
After all this bad news, the upbeat music at the end is so hilarious. Street racers running over people, getting in jail, a bunch of overreactive restrictions... and now let's party yay!!!!
Boggles my mind why anyone would want to live in LA anymore... Over zealous cops, lawlessness, riots, eroded automotive freedoms. Florida or Georgia if I ever move to the US.
I got in a race with a cool looking black charger, smoked his ass off the line like he wasn't even racing me.... then he got mad and hit the blue lights... I told the judge the cop provoked me into a race and I got the ticket dropped...lol
So, here's the situation for where I live. We had a track, not just a drag strip, but circle track and 3-ish kilometre road course, setup on 60 acres. Was built in the 1960's, on land leased from the municipal government. When it was built, it was 20 minutes OUTSIDE the city limits (and more from the nearest municipal community). Of course, fifty years later, there are now houses being built right up to the fenceline of the track. Complaints from people too stupid to look at a map and see the track came flooding in. Cops chimed in and said that having the track encouraged street racing. Then the city 'needed' a new landfill and denied the lease extension. Entire property was turned into landfill, which ran for less than five years before being closed due to lack of use. Next closest track is four hours away. After the track closed, street racing SPIKED, and has continued to get worse as time goes on. Even on private property, cops will push property managers to prohibit car meets of any kind. Plans were drafted about ten years ago to build a new track about an hour and a half away, but so far, its not even passed the development phase; Simultaneously, a second track was designed. This one faced pushback from the community it was originally going to be a part of, so it moved to a different site. As far as I know, its under construction, with the first phase set to be open this year BUT it was specifically prohibited from including a drag strip of any kind. So, we STILL don't have a drag strip for those who want straight-line racing. We have cops actively ticketing people ON PRIVATE PROPERTY (yes, its illegal for cops to do that here), kids who want to speed/show-off/be stupid with no place to go, a large community of older enthusiasts who can't be assed to get to know the younger generation, and the larger public actively villifying enthusiasts just for existing.
find a new hobby, simple solution, I used to skateboard, then they started fining everyone for just existing with a skateboard at their side. I tossed it away and now I do all other kinds of things as a hobby. Simple solution. Ironically skateboard is now ok and even in the Olympics lmfao
Let’s be honest these groups that go around spinning donuts in neighborhoods every weekend F it up for everyone. That crap isn’t street racing! These geniuses go out of their way to be a nuisance to the public, in turn giving these cities an excuse, power and resources to crack down on anything car enthusiast related. Thanks guys! 🥴
The problem is Gen Z. The zoomers are ruining car culture for social media clout. Not just takeovers, but even just the way they "modify" their cars. Last summer I had an interesting experience. My friend wanted me to go to a Hyundai Genesis club meet in an unused parking lot. We went with his gf and my brother. Spent about an hour to an hour and a half walking the lot, talking to the people about their cars/builds, etc. Super chill. Then, I'd guess about 50 cars of various makes/models showed up out of nowhere. They revved their stupid burble tunes, bounced the limiters, etc. on their entry. These guys all got kicked from wherever they were at prior, found out about this meet, and crashed it. My group decided we wanted snacks/drinks & a bathroom break at the nearby gas station. Walked there, did our thing over maybe 10 minutes tops. Walked back, and what do you know? There's 10+ cop cars breaking the meet up. Thanks clowns. Thanks a lot.
High Performance cars sales woul;d then be over. Ford has already started the replacement of V8s with turbo 6s.. the solution is 'Buyer's $s'. If you refuse to buy the new garbage and the dealers lose money the manufacturers will fight the Govt's over lost money. Money rules the world. If Audi wants to sell RS models bad enough theyll pay the right bureaucrat fund enough to vote for the cause of RS sales. Corporations want money. Govts want power. Power comes form money. Take away the money. Towers of power WILL fall.
This is a strong example for parents, if you don't teach your kids to respect the law, big government will! I still can't get over the mentality of street takeovers and doing stupid stuff like that in public. I'm not a big fan of government imposing stricter laws but at the same time I hope this starts clearing the streets of these idiots.
“Government will limit your speed and there will be nothing you can do about it” I’m not buying that, Chief. My cars are 16 and 72 years old. They can’t limit my stuff. 😁
they will try. government will tell you to install a speed limiter on your old car to monitor your speed... your counter move, disable speed limiter with hand held tuner
Agree kids have gotten dumb down, but I also don’t agree with gestapo tactics to stop it either and violation of 4th amendment and 7 amendment rights to stop it.
"Governments around the world slowly moving toward controlling ever aspect of your life, it’s happening everywhere." Craig, this statement goes well beyond the context of this video and it's NOT going to get any better any time soon.
Its slowly becoming a world I don't want to live in nor wish to bring any children in. Its sad when you can see noticible reduction in freedoms from when you were a child or teenager to now.
@@tunedownforwhat1639 The Great Reset is happening we will become China 2.0 in Europe. Really scary if you think about it. And we all let it just happen.
This is frustrating to me that all car enthusiasts get lumped into the same category as some of these clowns doing street takeovers. A guy in a clapped out ‘97 v-6 mustang or a Kia spectra is going to ruin it all. On the subject of tracks, I agree the government shouldn’t build them, but please stop shutting them down. I’m happy to support the local track long as places like Sacramento stop forcing them to close.
been taking care of my crippled mom from a car accident for 7 years, i love to speed but cars can really really fuck someone up:( theres a time and place, just be smart man
takeovers are stupid on so many levels. unless government doesn't let me keep my old cars or forces me to retrofit them I won't be dealing with those systems and if the do mandate a retrofit I guess I won't be driving anymore.
“Government shouldn’t build race tracks”. But Stadiums, parks, swimming pools, museums, aid to foreign countries, bailout of corporations is all fair game apparently...
I'm 62, and have been a hot rodder and amateur drag racer for more than 40 years. I race only older, pre emissions American cars. My first hot rod/race car was a 1964 Chevy Nova at age 18. I've been through a lot of cars since then, my current street legal drag race car is a 1964 Ford Fairlane. I don't know if I will ever build another race car or not, considering my age. I have ALWAYS raced on the track, and have been an NHRA member forever. None of this crazy new technology will ever affect me. I have had all kinds of daily drivers over the last several decades, from Corvettes to pickups. My current daily driver/ transportation car/cross country car is a Mercury Grand Marquis. And I have connections that will ensure I will have either a Grand Marquis or Ford Crown Vic to drive for the rest of my life. The last model year for these cars was 2011, though many were made long after that to fulfill orders placed by both civilian and government fleet departments across the country. I have spent my entire life as a government fleet department mechanic, and I know these cars inside and out. Unless it gets wrecked I can keep the same car going for a million miles by replacing parts. I do drive the speed limit. And stay in the right lane. And because of that I have been rear ended twice during the past 5 years by serious speeders (20-25 mph over the limit) who were not paying attention.
People saying that there aren't any tracks is BS. I'm stationed in Sicily and buy a plane ticket to Rome whenever I can, just to go drifting. Because, the money you spend on traveling and track fees is still cheaper than the cost of a funeral.
Cops get the Dragon Eye laser detection, we get laser jammers. There’s always gonna be a way to get around this stuff. There’s a million cat less cars with new registration and a million stance cars left in Cali. Like the vids Craig
I think the reason a lot of people are turned off by the track is not necessarily lack of availability but lack of open use. All too often the track is dominated by sanctioned events which certainly are a moneymaker for the track but without opportunities for open racing it makes it more difficult Uber drivers to get wild and cut loose in a safe controlled environment. Certainly officially illegal but short of legit track racing I think more of the better options would be to limit such things two areas where entrance and exit are if not completely controlled such as a proper track the available path for doing any activities that would be considered illegal street racing is sufficiently controlled where no one could easily find themselves in the path of it such as the back of a industrial park with a sufficiently straight and wide path and adequate room for safe return to the other end.
Intersection takeover are done for one reason and one reason only. For social media. Which is why I won't watch a takeover video. I did at the beginning and thought it was stupid. Doing donuts is street racing 101. I can take an old bone stock 225 hp fox body Mustang and do donuts all day long. So I'm not impress when some fucking kid does it in a 400 to 700 hp car.
I did it in the early 00's and we did it the same: on a dead end back road near an industrial area that had almost 0% chance of a car coming through, and, if there was, we could see a mile off and end the race immediately. I don't know of a single instance of someone getting hurt or crashing amongst anyone I knew. But then in the local paper a CRX raced a Mustang and somehow crashed and all you heard for weeks was that street racing was the worst pandemic ever. They even tried to spin a Mecury Mountaineer racing some grandma Oldsmobile as a street race because two idiot 16 year olds decided to drag race and somehow managed to crash.
@@shane_7even_ten569 "Not a bad way to spend 10 Grand" :) sorry I had to. Seriously though the Regal's were cool two-door car with lots of room. the greatest thing GM ever did for them is to create the Buick Regal Grand National, it became a halo car for all Regal's. my buddies first car in high school was a 79 Buick Regal he got from his grandparents on a visit up to MN, they live down south so it was rust free, sure it was banana yellow, and seemed like a grandpa car, it came with beaded seat covers which he got rid of after they left town, but after installing a Pioneer deck and speakers it was a great car to drive around in, we loved it!, we'll always have fond memories of the "Reegs" there's just nothing that can compare to your first car!, except maybe a newer better version of the same model.
Better to be illegal and drive. Ain’t nothing going to happen if you say you’re an illegal. If Democrats didn’t have double standards they would have no standards at all.
I remember hearing about these takeovers and seeing how they were showing them through social media and thought to myself " These kids have gone full retard mode for attention". Great video Craig and I think most of us OG's highly agree with your point of view.
These takeovers will get everyone in a bad spot, you won’t be able to drive any car that looks modified…and the laws are direct reaction to the public outcry and law enforcement and all they will do is just make the fines bigger and jail time longer
US: We can’t afford to build nice things for our citizens off taxpayer money! Also US to Israel and Afghanistan: So how many more billions in aid do you guys need from our taxpayers?
14:45 What's the big deal with being a minimum wage janitor? It's almost as if you'd say that as if it's a bad thing. That's the only job I can get because I have Autism. I have a good job now but people give me shxt because of my disability
Sorry man. Good janitors are hard to find, keep your head up. My brother is autistic and has a CDL, he really enjoys seeing the country. If someone gives you shit they're pretty pathetic.
Matthew Vizcaino It's a good job, and he had no training going in other than just driving for ~10 years. He's really happy now, and has a truck to himself so it's really everything he wanted. I'm sorry people give you grief over that, lots of adults never left their middle school mentality. This type of stuff usually works itself out eventually, especially if you're able to maintain a positive outlook and have a good work ethic, which you seem more than capable of.
@Super Mario... With everything it say I have. An 3 doctor's also said I have it from when I was younger up to now. It's actually Asburgers but because of 2021 it's Autism now.
my mechanic's son was 1 of the one killed in the 210 incident in 08. I live in the dmv area. from what he and some other people i talked to, they had it blocked off and were doing drag racing in one direction. the street racers that had finished the race, decided to race coming back to where the race was. by everyone focusing on the "main event" no one was paying attention to the cars racing back towards them. Especially with the fact that they were surrounded by LOUD cars
I was participating in a street takeover in my 240SX last night in Need For Speed Heat and a Police Crown Vic rammed into the side of me! Fortunately I escaped the chase and repaired the damage at a gas station, but just a warning! They are cracking down on this behaviour!
Couple important things: It's not that the govt should provide race tracks, but the Nurburgring business model should have more examples. Circuit race tracks are stupidly expensive to join as a club member and per-diem events are pricey and you have to run your car hard for a couple hours on track to get your money's worth, which is hard on your tires, brakes, engine, etc. If there were more (hopefully safer in design) Nurburgrings scattered around with pay-per-lap "tolls" where someone could drive over on a Tuesday, turn and burn for 20 minutes, then drive their car home, it would be way more accessible and affordable. I'm not a fan of the exact track design of the Nurburgring (too little runoff, too many blind turns, etc), but having driven it and experiencing how easy it is to just drive up and hit the track is something we need more of. That said, there are some that will always street race because the "f you" to "the man" is what they want. Those people closing down intersections are trying to be anarchists that think they're too cool to obey any laws, they're exactly like the wheelie clubs in motorcycles that love to wheelie down a busy street instead of in a parking lot at a closed business. These people won't do sanctioned events no matter how cheap or accessible they are, they're there for the chaos.
I generally agree but land is so expensive here in California, I can’t imagine where there’d VW we ought room for a 14 mile track. Or, how track owners could survive on $15 entrance fees.
@@craiglieberman I don't know if it would necessarily exist in California, or at least not in prime LA area, but I have a feeling if you just had some basic pavement with lots of runoff and a line of cars ready to drive it every day, you'd do OK. Rental kart tracks do just fine charging $25 for 10 minutes and they have to maintain the karts, with a basic track you just have to maintain a road and that's it. Sure, you have to keep emergency services nearby, but if you have 100's of people going through a day, that's trivial. The Nurburgring had to be bailed out by a billionaire recently, but that was technically because they made a bad business decision turn a race track into an amusement park that is nowhere near any major cities. It doesn't have to be anything special for people to support it, it doesn't need fancy elevation change and interesting complex corners, it just needs to be a place where people can drive their sports car without endangering the public.
I’m pretty sure you couldn’t build a franchise off of idiots doing shitty donuts on a bridge or in an intersection, they don’t deserve to have the title of ‘Racer’.
I spent 3 years racing on industrial backroads. In 2007, Ontario Canada introduced stunt driving legislation that meant your car would be impounded and license suspended for 7 days immediately at the side of the road. Go to court, find the ticket thrown out or reduced to something minor, but you were still 7 days without a license and car. Cops used to be pretty good about everything, turn on the lights, break it up, sometimes write a few tickets for a couple hundred dollars, but the scene died overnight in '07.
I feel like I'm listening to an old friend that remembers the simpler times, when we had COMMON SENSE! I've a widebody Challenger that I'm hesitant of driving because of the actions of some of these youngins, I let it sit in the garage taking a spin every now & then, I'm actually ok with that! Great show, enjoyed immensely! Keep up the great work!!!
Hear me out now... Automotive theme parks. Recreating legendary tracks and rally runs, but with more safety measures to protect the drivers if and when they mess up. Who needs roller coasters when you can run cat and mouse races on Hot Version's touge course, or the Akina downhill complete with the 5 consecutive hairpins, even Pikes Peak inspired tracks. Add in restaurants, concession stands, and music venues along with your standard drag, drift, and circuit tracks to add up into a one stop shop of motorsport adventure and community. Hold auto salon events for all the showcars and crazy tuners regularly, free wifi for the gram crowd, all available at a reasonable price, even a discount for season passes. Such a chain of gathering locations would blow up the scene and get it off the streets, improving public perception and adding an approachable atmosphere where any and all who want to show up and give it a go can do just that at their own pace and level while learning from more experienced drivers in a safer setting. Wavers would be required due to liability so the parks don't get shut down, but what amazing times could be had by all.
The place I grew up at had a highway behind my house it was almost straight for about a mile, there was a red light at one end and there was a bridge about a quarter mile from it so they used to race every friday and saturday night till dawn the cops were afraid to stop them. It all came to an end the summer of 73 just before I turned five. On a friday night about 230 am two cars were racing with four people in each one, they both wrecked into a car coming the opposite way. The crash was so loud it woke me up, I thought the house blew up. My mom was up doing dishes waiting for my dad to come home from work, she saw it from the kitchen window. All 9 of them died what was scary to us was the innocent bystander's car was the same as my dads and he was late, he stopped at the club to have a beer, that cars front end was ripped off and it looked like it was buried in the road. My older brother who was 13 at the time ran to see if he could help, he reconized the racers cars and when he got there one guy was still alive, he was in the front seat, but because of how smashed the car was only one of his hands was visible above the dash. He was screaming for his mother over and over each time quieter than the previous time until he died, my brother couldn't help him, he talked to him until he died my brother still gets all emotional when he thinks of that. My dad got home a half hour after that and since he put together the volunteer fire department when they developed the neighbor hood, they came and asked him to help out because some of the bodies where torn apart and they were looking for the pieces and they couldn't find one of the passengers, they had these trucks with spot lights that lit everything like it was day time. When they found the body it was up in the v of a tree and my dad said the guys skin was wadded up around his ankles like a pair of un fastened pants. That night was the last time they raced because everyone realized how stupid they were plus the state police started to patrol that part of the highway along with the local cops.
Not all of us young guys are that stupid I’m just gonna come out and say it if you are going to street race do without in the middle of nowhere have headlights on I mean seriously use half a brain in common sense if you’re going to do something that risky and Illegal to be honest I’d get the Speed bug every now and then but it doesn’t mean I find the nearest intersection in start doing donuts or street racing in the absolute middle of town I mean that’s just stupid To me
On a serious note, the points you made at the end of the video are incredibly important! I have been telling my friends this for a while, but no one listens to me. It's all about control. Without trying to sound like a tinfoil conspiracist, ultimately, it's not about sustainability or even our safety. It's about controlling our lives and making money out of us.
The only reason these " controls " are coming about is because too many blatantly ignore laws. ( like street take overs, 100 in a 55 MPH zone ) As for those that say " it is all about getting $ from fines " ,how will " they " get any $ if people are not breaking the law?
That's why with my car and social media, I just post pictures of it in various locations. Here it is in front of 7-11, here it is in a garage, here it is in the country-side, here it is in the shop.
Fucking hell man! 😂 You might as well pull the petrol tank out of it and put it on wheel trolleys and push it around - that’s boring as shit! At least get a video of you revving the engine a little bit
Solution to the problem is to let people do it in abandoned areas at their own risk. As for speed limiters, just remove it, if its coded into the CPU, just find line of code governing it, and rewrite it, or bypass it.
@@shirakou1 the thing is, they can't track it if the code is bypassed, and it would be extremely difficult to prove in a court that you knowingly tampered with it. Besides, I highly doubt they would make it illegal. Sort of like how car manufacturers are required to install throttle governors in their vehicles, and it's illegal for a shop to remove them *HOWEVER* its not illegal to remove it yourself, simply because most people don't even know what that is.
Only in California can you get a ticket and potential jail time for being within 200 feet of a street. That's how I'm choosing to interpret this. Garbage state. Get out while you can.
Watching should be legal. If I'm walking home or to my car from work; I don't want to be arrested for "watching a street race". When in reality it was just 2 morons with their 100hp rice boxes at the same intersection. Then again, I still believe in the constitution and the right to record people in public (1st)... Now if you're one of those single-digit-IQ glue sniffers who run into the middle of a busy street and get smacked by a car; you should be arrested, charged, and forced to pay for damages and the driver should face zero repercussions. I dont care if your "peacefully protesting" or clout-chasing. Waaaaay too many laws protecting stupid people from natural consequences. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I dont think the spectators are the problem but they are mixed in with the blockers who make it harder for people and law enforcement to get by so arresting spectators justifiable in that case.
The future of cars is going to suck so much, cause eventually it's just going to get to a point where you have zero control over the vehicle. Plus side traffic should get better, but I doubt it.
It's a simple fix in my opinion, remove speed limits on highways, and make street racing a federal crime. Then people can go as fast as they want when they want to on the highway, where that kind of stuff belongs. Also it would cut down the amount of head to head races, and encourage people to do more stuff like time trials which would be really hard to stop.
That would require people to get out of the passing lane when they can and no distracted driving. That only works for the Germans because they are generally very strict rule-followers.
@@Weimerica8841 IDK about that, drinking and driving in Germany is very strictly punished, yet when I was there a few years ago it was still fairly common to see people with a 6 pack half finished in their passenger seat. Also when you think about it, if they removed speed limits on highways, it would make people a lot more attentive, especially with cars zooming by at 150mph.... XD
I believe the speed limits on freeways should be LOWERED. Back when I was a teenager the national speed limit was 55 mph, and I had no problem with it. And it was enforced. Now it is 75 mph in my state, and everybody is doing 95-100 mph, and the cops don't enforce anything. I understand drag racing. The acceleration is where the fun is. Simply driving down the road at a steady 95-100 mph doesn't feel any different than going 65 mph.
10:32 thing is that, as counterintuitive as it sounds, the safe places for people to shoot up have shown that it is a better alternative than locking them up. It helps a lot more with recovery than punishing them. Some people listen and learn from being locked up but that doesn't work for everybody. They said, I agree with you on basically everything else.
People are just going to run fake tags, or no tags at all. And more people are just going to start running from the cops now 🤷♂️ And everyone that goes to these "meets" know the risks involved.
The intersection takeovers are fucking stupid. If you’re dumb enough to stand anywhere near that or in front of cars racing then you are full well knowingly that you are in possible danger if the cars lose control. And these takeovers are the reason why we are losing everything for our cars, especially California. I’m a motorcycle rider, I used to be in the car scene heavily. And we would go out and race, drift whatever but we were way out like 15 or 30 miles away from ANYONE, yeah we were scared if someone got hurt we were fucked but we went out anyway and we understood the risks, and we still went out. Being a motorcyclist, I like stunting so we go out to a lot and keep away from everyone else, like we even get permission from owners of property and they don’t mind as long as we are cool and no one dies or damages property intentionally or if we do we pay for fixes. I’m all for having fun but being safe while doing it too. I’ll tell you right now, they are not going to be able to add speed limiters, breathilizers, etc to these cars. It’s going to cost too much. The people will fight back, and we will win. It’s a violation to our privacy, once you’re a convicted felon or proved to the justice system you are a liability then your rights are stripped, but to impose on people who have nothing to do with it, is not going to fly.
How much anyone want to bet that the reason anyone gave this video a thumbs down is because they are guilty of this, and think they're doing nothing wrong, and don't like being told they're wrong?
I disagree with newer cars will have built in breathalyzers and camera 🎥 for Government officials to ticket 🎟 you and monitor your every action. It has so many things wrong with it involving your rights, sale ability of a narcissist car like that. Keeping cops number one job giving tickets and privacy issues.
Craig remember the time on San Fernando Rd behind the Juvenile Hall when the cops blocked off both sides of the road. Brought in County Buses and Arrested Everyone participating and watching the illegal street races.
@@Weimerica8841 I know it's not about the cars. I don't understand why they don't do it in a parking lot. Bothering no one but themselves. Highway takeovers are even worse. Yes because everyone on the road has amazing breaks at 70mph.
@@JonesBrothersProductionsiac Because doing it in a parking lot means no crowd (even though half of the crowd is usually just trying to get home lol) and no clout. It also doesn't upset anyone, so there are no "haters" to complain about. Doing it in a parking lot would make them realize how sad the whole thing really is. Just a bunch of guys who didn'y get enough attention as children.
Used to street race in late 90s and early 2000s. Now I'm 40 and I do all my racing on the track. Safe and fun. These intersection take overs just stupid.
I like prepped, timed tracks. You don't need to have anything fast to have fun, you just have to try to improve your time slip. Plus you get to hang out worry free and see what other cars run.
I have never understood why this is so difficult to sort out. The government don't need to build tracks - just set aside some ground and let people make their own. Give them some basic rules like no spectators after the line and let them get on with it. Then to go with this any purposeful infringement on the street should be jumped on way, way harder.
Glad you are raising these issues Craig I commented on another vid you did sometime ago and it’s timely, I have a few cars and while I’m a bit younger than you Im still closer to your end of the spectrum than these kids today with names on there cars and accounts on every social media platform. I follow quite a few YT channels because I am an avid car and bike scene ( I still race track, MX for fun, bit of off-road again fun, no longer pro, still race MTB, do the odd track days in car for fun, I am owner driver rider and adrenaline junky, that said, I use my head, a friend asked me the other day why I don’t have radar detector in my cars and I said I prefer to trust me instincts and when I am taking some liberties on those rare occasions on backroads (canyons, country roads ) which are abundant where I live, I prefer to be on my game focused and use my brains, still a risk,, not my points though re the vid. My point is like you have said there is allot of activity that’s been regularly streamed uploaded by many tubers some of which I sub to won’t mention anyone or where, but it’s like it is ingrained in them that this is only a thing on a California that rules don’t apply to them because they have a big TH-cam channel or Insta, more so it’s the modifications, like straight piped dump piped venting to air and while Id like to be able to do some of that stuff to my cars I can’t if I want to legally street drive them on weekends, track only no problem, but my JDMs are mostly street, I have cars ranging from 20k to 150k (not USD) I regularly get pulled over but not for infringing, sometimes because they are car people and just want to check out the cars, but every-time they are shocked when my drivers window comes down and ai take my glasses off and they see a mature adult not some tweenie (20s man /woman child) I say anyways most can’t afford cars like this, why would you think that, but of course there are plenty who have nice cars like mine or others, some have good income jobs I guess, it was def harder for me when these cars were new and ai was late teen early twenties co pared to US many of these cars were 70-130k when brand new here in the 90s, how where they get the money I don’t know, guess money comes easier today for younger people. I understand youtubers state side can make allot and many channels I follow are very financial have worked hard to build and it’s not easy, but reality is life ain’t easy in regular jobs (pointing at you TH-camrs who say this) be thankful you work hard at working on your passion, not a dead end 9/5 and good on them for that. I celebrate success of these and myself or others. My point is they are also successful marketeers, probably most influential as shown by the many sponsors they promote and are attractive to once the channels have enough traffic or subs likes etc, but some regularly go too’s eg builds are mostly for illegal mods that are promoting indirectly to build their channels, their brand almost at the car scene expense, it also like an example of young girls who get plastic surgery to look that mode, they constantly see in magazines or today online or insta channels, they want what they can’t have it’s marketed to them constantly. As you have said, these commie states and commie governments are coming, these guys don’t care about the environment, that’s just a hook for everyday common people that are sheep to society to believe in, my country imports more coal now for energy supply and crisis management than ever in history and we promote ourselves as 100% pure. it’s commie, propoganda, it is about control, we need laws and we need governance but for all and for rights of all and freedoms, but that does not mean we can do what we like to hell with anybody, as you say there are consequences, life and death it’s part of life, you still have to make informed decisions even if you are facing wether it’s on a track a closed circuit or street life is about choices risks, it’s this basic do unto others that you would want done un to you! If we want to keep our cars out investments and our passions for the long term, we can’t be giving these woke, commie, cancel culture neo nazais any opportunity excuses and BS rhetoric about saving the plant pet that they fckd up and we are paying for, abut we have to get out shit together, these kids seem to have just thrown out the bath water with the bath and said we are gonna lose it, let’s use it while we can and to hell with anyone or any thing. I watched a video this week, a car which I have followed the build and enjoy the channel and he cars, he drives it main down town city, boosting through lights drifting around corners where built up traffic is on every lane and is laughing at pedestrians and other drivers reactions and it’s all over youtube in road daylight, not the first time. He’s just laughing enjoying it like it’s an everyday thing which it almost is with him, that side of his channel ai don’t like, seeing him in Mexico no problem if he hurts himself ok but dpnt out others at risk, don’t expose yourself, he’s very recognisable by his cars alone, he needs no name on his car, though his plate is always shown in vids.Old saying be a thinker, not a stinker! I have seen a guy with over 1 million subs he buys dirtbikes and him, his posse of riders which can be huge sometimes ride daytime and night time on dirtbikes (motocross bikes essentially , unregistrable, these are not street bikes they are close course off road race bikes 10” suspension front and rear, 450 4t MX weapons doing wheelies for days through red lights in main street built up cities him and his posses are everywhere night and day, a couple of years ago one of those riders was killed being hit by a car legitimately driving thru the intersection where they collided the guys have no helmets on, no dirtbike gear, just GoPros. I’m not a fuddy or some rat, I have never called on anyone, unless at an accident scene which ai have been at twice randomly driving so,eh were and had to help on scene it’s not pretty nice and you never forget. I still as said earlier take my liberties at times but where the border is beyond mexico, still risk, someone random could come out of a hidden drive way on a back road most risk is from stock, a sheep, cow or deer or wombat, pig. even dog, etc have had some neat misses, But id never blow a red light or a stop sign, even in back country. know one intersection that is stop sign only where a number of deaths resulting in jail for offenders that survived has occurred. Anyways good topic keep up the fight and the educating. information am behind you 100% I hope I don’t live to see the 40lm restricted car commie neo nazai scene before I die, my casket will be my MK4, Im taking it with me. Lastly what is almost absurd is while u mention Government’s pushing the EV green and restricted future, the EV manufacturers are making all EVs more easily powerful for the generation of people who may be law abiding but who are in general the worst drivers with the lest amount of skill behind a wheel and proof of that is the sheer amount distractions in the car from infotainment systems to crap for kids in the back seats and to prove it even more the sheer amount of abS technology that’s supposed to make them and everyone else safe, the safest person is the person who knows there limitations is trained as well as possible, makes good decisions and is aware of theirs and others on the road or any environment not some programable POS technology, if it’s not bad enough we suffer cyber attacks on almost a per second basis now our future cars will be devices they can also hack, track and control. I’m not in and hell will freeze over before I buy into it, they’ll have to pull my cars from my cold dead hands. I still like to let my hair down, I am prepared to follow common sense laws for all, not widely poor future unsustainable Bas rhetoric regarding our rights and abilities to drive, I have always paid my taxes, I have always insured, certified and registered my cars and bikes for road that were to be used on public roads, I will not support any Government that takes away my rights when I have paid my dues for me and many others, I don’t have any car on the street without it’s cats mufflers or any other std emission equipment, It may have been improved eg OEM plus. So that’s my other side of the coin. Anyways Mav out, cheers for the vid and I hope the street shut downs and these groups wake up and smell the bacon before the burn the toast for all of us. peace out 🤙🤘
It's just going to make it worse on reasonable car enthusiast who will suffer long term from this idiotic acts and hastened restrictions aiming to stop that. I myself drive in more spirited manner from time to time wherever its safe, and i dont speed in any excessive way, but this just goes on to kill more and more of the fun in cars on top of everything that ruined most of the more pedestrian cars in last 10 years. Even if i grab myself an older car i always wanted to have they will probably prohibit me from driving it in 10-15 years
Government funded brothel? Give that some serious thought. -people are being employed, possibly with benefits (not that kind 😄) -it's regulated - safer than standing on a street corner. I think you know my stance. Change my mind!
"I was young once, believe it or not." - Craig Liebermann, 2021
He ain't lying tho
Kills me. He said it twice even.
My sister worked on the Tonight Show and was invited to the Tokyo Drift premier. Upon leaving in her automatic BMW Z3 she was pulled over and arrested for “street racing” a Miata. From what she says is that the Miata pulled up at a stop light and revved so messing around she did it back. Light turned green and the Miata took off. Cop pulled her over. Arrested and car impounded. She fought it in court and won. That was the last time she accepted a invite for a F&F movie.
Was the car in the movie tho?
Craig is right here I have been over 180 on public roads to many times to count but only on highways when there is little to no traffic around preferably at night...ive been on gold rush 2018 and 19 and have had a blast and you certainly get rowdy on runs like that as well and when people are acting as a group and get each other worked up that's when bad things can happen you don't know the other drivers capabilities and that can lead to bad things I it's not me I'm worried about it's everyone else I try to get away from everyone and ride on my own I feel better as I am much more in control.... another problem is if your going fast and just cruising like 120 or so not necessary reckless like heavy weaving and riding on the shoulders etc. you'll often get someone dips**t in a genesis v6 mustang or even an accord trying to keep up with you trying to race you I'm in a 720s my car is made to do those kinds of speeds like its nothing and can stop in short time from high speed and maneuver quickly the likely hood of them doing something and getting you tied up with them is very high in that case it pisses me off to no end just be careful car friends and don't overestimate your or your car's capabilities it likely won't end well...
P.S. don't incriminate your self on social media, THERES A REASON WHY YOU WONT FIND ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA!!!
and yeah government f'off I will always figure out a way to disable your b.s. "equipment" you can't out smart software engineers....
Takeovers in general have always been stupid and dangerous for everyone Involved, It also hurts the car scene a lot
As a bonus what seems to happen most often is the guys doing the takeovers get away free and clear and what happens after that is police issue loads more "47 in a 45" or "your (stock) exhaust sounded loud even though I can't measure it" tickets to people who had nothing to do with the takeover to prove to the community that they're taking the problem seriously.
Yeah I've seen a few vids of people "taking" over Atlanta and what a way to make an already shit city, more shit
@@Tangent360 Exactly and things like this can cause laws with modifying certain parts of cars even more strict
i HATE them intersection takeovers, did you see the one where a dude brought a UHAUL truck to one?
I feel social media ruined the "innocence" of car scene. It used to be a handful of actual enthusiasts having some relatively harmless fun at night cruising down empty backroads. Now its a bunch of wanna be gangsta's wanting to look cool for the gram while committing vehicular assault and destroying their cars, utter betas. Sad that us real enthusiasts still exist but all get dumped into the same category.
social media ruined most hobbies, look at baseball card collecting now
@@Weimerica8841 I thought that hobby died way before social media?
Its been that way since the 90s its just you didnt realize “pitts” was a loser in real life
Honestly, as a car guy, I'm glad about this. Side shows are stupid as hell. Its just a bunch of irresponsible morons spinning donuts for attention and clout. All so people can get hurt and so they can wreak their cars.
These take overs are stupid... crazy dangerous and risky for all involved. Industrial estates or backroads are where its still done quietly but still illegally
But you don’t hear a lot of those nowadays
@BARZZZ makes sense, plus the cops won't hit pedestrians to push through and see the offending cars I suppose
@@MrMistery101 the difference may be brains? 😂🤷♂️
Takeovers are the cancer of the car community.
Facts
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Man this is really starting to feel exactly like the plot for Need for Speed Heat. Everyone watch out for Lt. Frank Mercer 😬🥴
“The government should build race tracks.”
These people REALLY think the government is even competent enough to run a racetrack??
Already the gouvernement is pissing away taxpayer dollars on useless shit. Not to mention they’re deficit spending because of huge amounts of debt the country owes.
Right
I know how kids are. ”What does this guy know. These dudes just couldn't drive. I'm a pro driver I never crash.”
The police here in Charlotte just did this recently. They apparently had been monitoring "organized street races" since Feb/Mar collecting evidence. In June, they showed up to a bunch of houses at 6:00am and arrested them and seized their cars. In total, I believe there were 50 arrests and 60 cars taken.
I have personally always avoided any meets or events where idiots start racing, swinging, or doing burn outs. However, being involved in the car community here I do have two friends who did have their cars taken. Both are unsure whether they will ever get their cars back.
Its a hard lesson, especially since we are in the NASCAR capital and have racetracks all over the place here...everyones excuse is "they are expensive to race at". Probably a lot cheaper than having your brand new MK5 Supra seized by the police and still having to pay for it regardless.
Takeovers are some of the dumbest, clowniest things ever and they are ruining the car scene
This is what happens when the police run everyone out of empty parking lots at 230 am. They move to the street. Nobody is going to get hurt that didn't choose to be there. Nobodies car is going to get hurt if it isn't in or near the intersection. It would be better if there were giant empty paved spots that people could use at night... charge admission, make it more for a car than a person so the ones actually using the pavement up are paying more for it.
Commie-Fornia laughed so hard when I heard that and I don't even live there.
What's funny is he said liberal commie-fornia.
Communists are the furthest thing from liberal. So... take it as you will.
@@MidwestDankAlumni most liberals support the idea of communism.
@@MidwestDankAlumni not in america... liberals are the ones pushing communism... lots of those goofy antifa clowns are liberals.
@@MidwestDankAlumni Why not address the substance of the argument instead of arguing semantics? Are American liberals not the ones pushing for communism?
For people who love to change the definitions of words when convenient it seems strange to draw this line, but I suppose it's because you know communism is indefensible.
@@Weimerica8841 Today's 'Patriots' would have been labeled Terrorists about 20 years ago....definitions change I suppose?
My street racing days ('07-'08) were always like this: Meet up in an industrial park chosen that day, meetup time was around midnight, we pick the drivers, we pick the spot (typically a highway race), and do a rolling start at 70kph, and race til the designated overpass. Rarely did standing quarters, but they happened on a specific bridge in a specific industrial area. I won a couple slips back in the day on that bridge. Good times. People today are 100% stupid for doing street racing like they are now.
Takeovers ruin the car community. Most of them aren't real Car Enthusiasts. The most they'll do is wrap or change the exhaust on their car and call it a day with something to prove.
Dont forget pop tunes that make police think someones shooting!
People confuse street racing with take overs two different worlds
But for 1 asshole we all repeat all pay the price to the car people community
Yupp
I don’t want governments to build us a race track, I want governments to tell residents to back off when they complain about a race track. They willingly moved into the area of that race track and then whine and complain. That’s our problem!
I'll admit it. When you first started making videos I thought you were just trying to cash in on your involvement from The Fast and The Furious. I'm happy to say to was completely wrong. You've become one of my favorite car TH-camrs and all because of your thorough and quality content. Cheers.
After all this bad news, the upbeat music at the end is so hilarious.
Street racers running over people, getting in jail, a bunch of overreactive restrictions... and now let's party yay!!!!
Boggles my mind why anyone would want to live in LA anymore... Over zealous cops, lawlessness, riots, eroded automotive freedoms. Florida or Georgia if I ever move to the US.
Nah Nevada is the state for car guys. Take it from me.
@@rovinnarayan4634 Or Montana
@@Visbi Montana does look good. Alex Steele was there for a while with Will Stelter blacksmithing. Looks like amazing country.
Takes absolutely no skill to do donuts..can’t understand why anyone thinks it’s cool to do this in an intersection.
Yeah, and destroy expensive tires.
I got in a race with a cool looking black charger, smoked his ass off the line like he wasn't even racing me.... then he got mad and hit the blue lights... I told the judge the cop provoked me into a race and I got the ticket dropped...lol
So, here's the situation for where I live.
We had a track, not just a drag strip, but circle track and 3-ish kilometre road course, setup on 60 acres. Was built in the 1960's, on land leased from the municipal government. When it was built, it was 20 minutes OUTSIDE the city limits (and more from the nearest municipal community). Of course, fifty years later, there are now houses being built right up to the fenceline of the track. Complaints from people too stupid to look at a map and see the track came flooding in. Cops chimed in and said that having the track encouraged street racing. Then the city 'needed' a new landfill and denied the lease extension. Entire property was turned into landfill, which ran for less than five years before being closed due to lack of use. Next closest track is four hours away. After the track closed, street racing SPIKED, and has continued to get worse as time goes on. Even on private property, cops will push property managers to prohibit car meets of any kind.
Plans were drafted about ten years ago to build a new track about an hour and a half away, but so far, its not even passed the development phase; Simultaneously, a second track was designed. This one faced pushback from the community it was originally going to be a part of, so it moved to a different site. As far as I know, its under construction, with the first phase set to be open this year BUT it was specifically prohibited from including a drag strip of any kind. So, we STILL don't have a drag strip for those who want straight-line racing. We have cops actively ticketing people ON PRIVATE PROPERTY (yes, its illegal for cops to do that here), kids who want to speed/show-off/be stupid with no place to go, a large community of older enthusiasts who can't be assed to get to know the younger generation, and the larger public actively villifying enthusiasts just for existing.
find a new hobby, simple solution, I used to skateboard, then they started fining everyone for just existing with a skateboard at their side. I tossed it away and now I do all other kinds of things as a hobby. Simple solution. Ironically skateboard is now ok and even in the Olympics lmfao
@@socksonfeet8125 you do understand how dumb that response is, right? Like, the issue has NEVER been the hobby itself, but how people perceive it.
Let’s be honest these groups that go around spinning donuts in neighborhoods every weekend F it up for everyone.
That crap isn’t street racing!
These geniuses go out of their way to be a nuisance to the public, in turn giving these cities an excuse, power and resources to crack down on anything car enthusiast related. Thanks guys! 🥴
The problem is Gen Z. The zoomers are ruining car culture for social media clout. Not just takeovers, but even just the way they "modify" their cars.
Last summer I had an interesting experience. My friend wanted me to go to a Hyundai Genesis club meet in an unused parking lot. We went with his gf and my brother. Spent about an hour to an hour and a half walking the lot, talking to the people about their cars/builds, etc. Super chill. Then, I'd guess about 50 cars of various makes/models showed up out of nowhere. They revved their stupid burble tunes, bounced the limiters, etc. on their entry.
These guys all got kicked from wherever they were at prior, found out about this meet, and crashed it. My group decided we wanted snacks/drinks & a bathroom break at the nearby gas station. Walked there, did our thing over maybe 10 minutes tops. Walked back, and what do you know? There's 10+ cop cars breaking the meet up. Thanks clowns. Thanks a lot.
I unironically blame tik tok.
@@Weimerica8841 TikTok's one of the main culprits, definitely.
The main problem is that zoomers have a total lack of self-awareness. Their version of "cool" is the the total opposite of what I find cool.
@@plottwist1733 Agreed.
@@plottwist1733 Isn't that just called preference?
Imagine spending almost 110,000 on a BMW M5 just to have a speed limiter cut on and take away the fact that you have 600 hp on tap
You can have it disabled lol
@@akush42069 yea just to have it constantly tell you you're going too fast
High Performance cars sales woul;d then be over. Ford has already started the replacement of V8s with turbo 6s.. the solution is 'Buyer's $s'. If you refuse to buy the new garbage and the dealers lose money the manufacturers will fight the Govt's over lost money. Money rules the world. If Audi wants to sell RS models bad enough theyll pay the right bureaucrat fund enough to vote for the cause of RS sales. Corporations want money. Govts want power. Power comes form money. Take away the money. Towers of power WILL fall.
This is a strong example for parents, if you don't teach your kids to respect the law, big government will! I still can't get over the mentality of street takeovers and doing stupid stuff like that in public. I'm not a big fan of government imposing stricter laws but at the same time I hope this starts clearing the streets of these idiots.
“Government will limit your speed and there will be nothing you can do about it”
I’m not buying that, Chief. My cars are 16 and 72 years old. They can’t limit my stuff. 😁
they will try. government will tell you to install a speed limiter on your old car to monitor your speed... your counter move, disable speed limiter with hand held tuner
This generation of kids have no idea. Common sense was left behind in the 90s.
Agree kids have gotten dumb down, but I also don’t agree with gestapo tactics to stop it either and violation of 4th amendment and 7 amendment rights to stop it.
Thank you for doing Gods work. These kids need a wake up call and realize they're ruining the car scene for everyone
Takeovers are trash
"Governments around the world slowly moving toward controlling ever aspect of your life, it’s happening everywhere."
Craig, this statement goes well beyond the context of this video and it's NOT going to get any better any time soon.
Its slowly becoming a world I don't want to live in nor wish to bring any children in. Its sad when you can see noticible reduction in freedoms from when you were a child or teenager to now.
@@tunedownforwhat1639 The Great Reset is happening we will become China 2.0 in Europe. Really scary if you think about it. And we all let it just happen.
This is frustrating to me that all car enthusiasts get lumped into the same category as some of these clowns doing street takeovers. A guy in a clapped out ‘97 v-6 mustang or a Kia spectra is going to ruin it all. On the subject of tracks, I agree the government shouldn’t build them, but please stop shutting them down. I’m happy to support the local track long as places like Sacramento stop forcing them to close.
You mean brand new hellcat owners
Imagine if Riverside didn't close down all those years ago..
Would have helped in one way or another
been taking care of my crippled mom from a car accident for 7 years, i love to speed but cars can really really fuck someone up:( theres a time and place, just be smart man
takeovers are stupid on so many levels. unless government doesn't let me keep my old cars or forces me to retrofit them I won't be dealing with those systems and if the do mandate a retrofit I guess I won't be driving anymore.
“Government shouldn’t build race tracks”.
But Stadiums, parks, swimming pools, museums, aid to foreign countries, bailout of corporations is all fair game apparently...
exactly my thoughts
Yeah they shouldn't build anything as they always do a bad job. Overpriced and low quality.
As a younger guy Ill say it isnt all of us😅.Takeover people arent car enthusiast, they just like doing dumb things with cars
Mainly to show off
I'm 62, and have been a hot rodder and amateur drag racer for more than 40 years. I race only older, pre emissions American cars. My first hot rod/race car was a 1964 Chevy Nova at age 18. I've been through a lot of cars since then, my current street legal drag race car is a 1964 Ford Fairlane. I don't know if I will ever build another race car or not, considering my age. I have ALWAYS raced on the track, and have been an NHRA member forever. None of this crazy new technology will ever affect me. I have had all kinds of daily drivers over the last several decades, from Corvettes to pickups. My current daily driver/ transportation car/cross country car is a Mercury Grand Marquis. And I have connections that will ensure I will have either a Grand Marquis or Ford Crown Vic to drive for the rest of my life. The last model year for these cars was 2011, though many were made long after that to fulfill orders placed by both civilian and government fleet departments across the country. I have spent my entire life as a government fleet department mechanic, and I know these cars inside and out. Unless it gets wrecked I can keep the same car going for a million miles by replacing parts. I do drive the speed limit. And stay in the right lane. And because of that I have been rear ended twice during the past 5 years by serious speeders (20-25 mph over the limit) who were not paying attention.
The government doesn't need to build people race tracks... they simply need to get out of the way with permits when people are trying to build one.
Exactly.
People saying that there aren't any tracks is BS. I'm stationed in Sicily and buy a plane ticket to Rome whenever I can, just to go drifting. Because, the money you spend on traveling and track fees is still cheaper than the cost of a funeral.
Cops get the Dragon Eye laser detection, we get laser jammers. There’s always gonna be a way to get around this stuff. There’s a million cat less cars with new registration and a million stance cars left in Cali. Like the vids Craig
The municipality shouldn't pay for a racetrack? They pay for football and baseball stadiums.
Speed Limiters will never happen herein the Southern US - they're so poor here, they can't even afford speed limit signs
I hate Takeovers with a burning passion, I personally think it's what makes the car community basically like 2-Face.
I think the reason a lot of people are turned off by the track is not necessarily lack of availability but lack of open use. All too often the track is dominated by sanctioned events which certainly are a moneymaker for the track but without opportunities for open racing it makes it more difficult Uber drivers to get wild and cut loose in a safe controlled environment.
Certainly officially illegal but short of legit track racing I think more of the better options would be to limit such things two areas where entrance and exit are if not completely controlled such as a proper track the available path for doing any activities that would be considered illegal street racing is sufficiently controlled where no one could easily find themselves in the path of it such as the back of a industrial park with a sufficiently straight and wide path and adequate room for safe return to the other end.
I wonder how all those small towns are going to finance their selves with ticket revenue?
Intersection takeover are done for one reason and one reason only. For social media. Which is why I won't watch a takeover video. I did at the beginning and thought it was stupid. Doing donuts is street racing 101. I can take an old bone stock 225 hp fox body Mustang and do donuts all day long. So I'm not impress when some fucking kid does it in a 400 to 700 hp car.
I’m in that OG class with you Craig, we were much smarter back then.
@@floki1664 ‘82 Buick Regal with a sb350 4 bolt main bored .30 over, decked heads, hooker headers and a lunati voodoo race cam
Im a bit younger than you and Craig, I had my fun too, had to be smart about it... but man the common sense these days is just horrendous!
@@mbray10 it’s all about them back roads
I did it in the early 00's and we did it the same: on a dead end back road near an industrial area that had almost 0% chance of a car coming through, and, if there was, we could see a mile off and end the race immediately. I don't know of a single instance of someone getting hurt or crashing amongst anyone I knew. But then in the local paper a CRX raced a Mustang and somehow crashed and all you heard for weeks was that street racing was the worst pandemic ever. They even tried to spin a Mecury Mountaineer racing some grandma Oldsmobile as a street race because two idiot 16 year olds decided to drag race and somehow managed to crash.
@@shane_7even_ten569 "Not a bad way to spend 10 Grand" :) sorry I had to. Seriously though the Regal's were cool two-door car with lots of room. the greatest thing GM ever did for them is to create the Buick Regal Grand National, it became a halo car for all Regal's. my buddies first car in high school was a 79 Buick Regal he got from his grandparents on a visit up to MN, they live down south so it was rust free, sure it was banana yellow, and seemed like a grandpa car, it came with beaded seat covers which he got rid of after they left town, but after installing a Pioneer deck and speakers it was a great car to drive around in, we loved it!, we'll always have fond memories of the "Reegs" there's just nothing that can compare to your first car!, except maybe a newer better version of the same model.
Better to be illegal and drive. Ain’t nothing going to happen if you say you’re an illegal.
If Democrats didn’t have double standards they would have no standards at all.
I remember hearing about these takeovers and seeing how they were showing them through social media and thought to myself " These kids have gone full retard mode for attention". Great video Craig and I think most of us OG's highly agree with your point of view.
But its OK to shoplift up $1000 bucks and your out that same day. Good job California
Only if you're ethnically challenged.
''He has a gf he doesn't really like because she drive his dumbass to work everyday'' lol jaja
This is why i drive old cars
Provided I can find/afford them
Prices are gonna skyrocket if new cars have breathalyzers and speed limiters
Where I live they have an area where you can race and the cops only come when they get complaints and tell you to come back in an hour
These takeovers will get everyone in a bad spot, you won’t be able to drive any car that looks modified…and the laws are direct reaction to the public outcry and law enforcement and all they will do is just make the fines bigger and jail time longer
Aka the epa trying to ban all modified cars plus Karen’s complaining too.
US: We can’t afford to build nice things for our citizens off taxpayer money!
Also US to Israel and Afghanistan: So how many more billions in aid do you guys need from our taxpayers?
Not to mention that most intersections have cameras now.
not like they are needed.. These idiots film it all in high quality
@@nomeru_0 True. Might as well email a link to the police.
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What's the big deal with being a minimum wage janitor? It's almost as if you'd say that as if it's a bad thing. That's the only job I can get because I have Autism. I have a good job now but people give me shxt because of my disability
I give you props brother.
Sorry man. Good janitors are hard to find, keep your head up. My brother is autistic and has a CDL, he really enjoys seeing the country. If someone gives you shit they're pretty pathetic.
Matthew Vizcaino It's a good job, and he had no training going in other than just driving for ~10 years. He's really happy now, and has a truck to himself so it's really everything he wanted.
I'm sorry people give you grief over that, lots of adults never left their middle school mentality. This type of stuff usually works itself out eventually, especially if you're able to maintain a positive outlook and have a good work ethic, which you seem more than capable of.
@Super Mario... With everything it say I have. An 3 doctor's also said I have it from when I was younger up to now. It's actually Asburgers but because of 2021 it's Autism now.
my mechanic's son was 1 of the one killed in the 210 incident in 08. I live in the dmv area. from what he and some other people i talked to, they had it blocked off and were doing drag racing in one direction. the street racers that had finished the race, decided to race coming back to where the race was. by everyone focusing on the "main event" no one was paying attention to the cars racing back towards them. Especially with the fact that they were surrounded by LOUD cars
I was participating in a street takeover in my 240SX last night in Need For Speed Heat and a Police Crown Vic rammed into the side of me! Fortunately I escaped the chase and repaired the damage at a gas station, but just a warning! They are cracking down on this behaviour!
Couple important things:
It's not that the govt should provide race tracks, but the Nurburgring business model should have more examples. Circuit race tracks are stupidly expensive to join as a club member and per-diem events are pricey and you have to run your car hard for a couple hours on track to get your money's worth, which is hard on your tires, brakes, engine, etc.
If there were more (hopefully safer in design) Nurburgrings scattered around with pay-per-lap "tolls" where someone could drive over on a Tuesday, turn and burn for 20 minutes, then drive their car home, it would be way more accessible and affordable. I'm not a fan of the exact track design of the Nurburgring (too little runoff, too many blind turns, etc), but having driven it and experiencing how easy it is to just drive up and hit the track is something we need more of.
That said, there are some that will always street race because the "f you" to "the man" is what they want. Those people closing down intersections are trying to be anarchists that think they're too cool to obey any laws, they're exactly like the wheelie clubs in motorcycles that love to wheelie down a busy street instead of in a parking lot at a closed business. These people won't do sanctioned events no matter how cheap or accessible they are, they're there for the chaos.
I generally agree but land is so expensive here in California, I can’t imagine where there’d VW we ought room for a 14 mile track. Or, how track owners could survive on $15 entrance fees.
@@craiglieberman I don't know if it would necessarily exist in California, or at least not in prime LA area, but I have a feeling if you just had some basic pavement with lots of runoff and a line of cars ready to drive it every day, you'd do OK. Rental kart tracks do just fine charging $25 for 10 minutes and they have to maintain the karts, with a basic track you just have to maintain a road and that's it. Sure, you have to keep emergency services nearby, but if you have 100's of people going through a day, that's trivial. The Nurburgring had to be bailed out by a billionaire recently, but that was technically because they made a bad business decision turn a race track into an amusement park that is nowhere near any major cities. It doesn't have to be anything special for people to support it, it doesn't need fancy elevation change and interesting complex corners, it just needs to be a place where people can drive their sports car without endangering the public.
I’m pretty sure you couldn’t build a franchise off of idiots doing shitty donuts on a bridge or in an intersection, they don’t deserve to have the title of ‘Racer’.
I didn't hurt those spectators. It was my mustang.
I spent 3 years racing on industrial backroads. In 2007, Ontario Canada introduced stunt driving legislation that meant your car would be impounded and license suspended for 7 days immediately at the side of the road. Go to court, find the ticket thrown out or reduced to something minor, but you were still 7 days without a license and car. Cops used to be pretty good about everything, turn on the lights, break it up, sometimes write a few tickets for a couple hundred dollars, but the scene died overnight in '07.
I feel like I'm listening to an old friend that remembers the simpler times, when we had COMMON SENSE! I've a widebody Challenger that I'm hesitant of driving because of the actions of some of these youngins, I let it sit in the garage taking a spin every now & then, I'm actually ok with that! Great show, enjoyed immensely! Keep up the great work!!!
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Hear me out now... Automotive theme parks. Recreating legendary tracks and rally runs, but with more safety measures to protect the drivers if and when they mess up. Who needs roller coasters when you can run cat and mouse races on Hot Version's touge course, or the Akina downhill complete with the 5 consecutive hairpins, even Pikes Peak inspired tracks. Add in restaurants, concession stands, and music venues along with your standard drag, drift, and circuit tracks to add up into a one stop shop of motorsport adventure and community. Hold auto salon events for all the showcars and crazy tuners regularly, free wifi for the gram crowd, all available at a reasonable price, even a discount for season passes. Such a chain of gathering locations would blow up the scene and get it off the streets, improving public perception and adding an approachable atmosphere where any and all who want to show up and give it a go can do just that at their own pace and level while learning from more experienced drivers in a safer setting. Wavers would be required due to liability so the parks don't get shut down, but what amazing times could be had by all.
The place I grew up at had a highway behind my house it was almost straight for about a mile, there was a red light at one end and there was a bridge about a quarter mile from it so they used to race every friday and saturday night till dawn the cops were afraid to stop them.
It all came to an end the summer of 73 just before I turned five. On a friday night about 230 am two cars were racing with four people in each one, they both wrecked into a car coming the opposite way. The crash was so loud it woke me up, I thought the house blew up. My mom was up doing dishes waiting for my dad to come home from work, she saw it from the kitchen window. All 9 of them died what was scary to us was the innocent bystander's car was the same as my dads and he was late, he stopped at the club to have a beer, that cars front end was ripped off and it looked like it was buried in the road.
My older brother who was 13 at the time ran to see if he could help, he reconized the racers cars and when he got there one guy was still alive, he was in the front seat, but because of how smashed the car was only one of his hands was visible above the dash. He was screaming for his mother over and over each time quieter than the previous time until he died, my brother couldn't help him, he talked to him until he died my brother still gets all emotional when he thinks of that.
My dad got home a half hour after that and since he put together the volunteer fire department when they developed the neighbor hood, they came and asked him to help out because some of the bodies where torn apart and they were looking for the pieces and they couldn't find one of the passengers, they had these trucks with spot lights that lit everything like it was day time. When they found the body it was up in the v of a tree and my dad said the guys skin was wadded up around his ankles like a pair of un fastened pants.
That night was the last time they raced because everyone realized how stupid they were plus the state police started to patrol that part of the highway along with the local cops.
My God man! Your pop and brother must have not been able to get a decent nights sleep for years after that!
Not all of us young guys are that stupid I’m just gonna come out and say it if you are going to street race do without in the middle of nowhere have headlights on I mean seriously use half a brain in common sense if you’re going to do something that risky and Illegal to be honest I’d get the Speed bug every now and then but it doesn’t mean I find the nearest intersection in start doing donuts or street racing in the absolute middle of town I mean that’s just stupid To me
And ofc avoid posting it online
On a serious note, the points you made at the end of the video are incredibly important! I have been telling my friends this for a while, but no one listens to me. It's all about control. Without trying to sound like a tinfoil conspiracist, ultimately, it's not about sustainability or even our safety. It's about controlling our lives and making money out of us.
Yes they just brand or package it as for the environment so it sounds better.
The only reason these " controls " are coming about is because too many blatantly ignore laws. ( like street take overs, 100 in a 55 MPH zone ) As for those that say " it is all about getting $ from fines " ,how will " they " get any $ if people are not breaking the law?
The government is incapable of running a goddamn lemonade stand effectively, a government run race track would be MISERABLE.
That's why with my car and social media, I just post pictures of it in various locations. Here it is in front of 7-11, here it is in a garage, here it is in the country-side, here it is in the shop.
Fucking hell man! 😂 You might as well pull the petrol tank out of it and put it on wheel trolleys and push it around - that’s boring as shit! At least get a video of you revving the engine a little bit
Solution to the problem is to let people do it in abandoned areas at their own risk.
As for speed limiters, just remove it, if its coded into the CPU, just find line of code governing it, and rewrite it, or bypass it.
Wouldn't be surprised if that was illegal and the limiters give a signal so the government can track whether or not your device is on.
@@shirakou1 the thing is, they can't track it if the code is bypassed, and it would be extremely difficult to prove in a court that you knowingly tampered with it.
Besides, I highly doubt they would make it illegal.
Sort of like how car manufacturers are required to install throttle governors in their vehicles, and it's illegal for a shop to remove them *HOWEVER* its not illegal to remove it yourself, simply because most people don't even know what that is.
@@ejk64 yeah I hear you. Even if it isn't directly illegal, I'll bet big money that big brother's gonna make life hard for us.
There is a huge appeal to being an outlaw, no amount of racetracks is going to stop that
Don't forget about the girls that come with the fast cars.
Only in California can you get a ticket and potential jail time for being within 200 feet of a street. That's how I'm choosing to interpret this. Garbage state. Get out while you can.
Yeah but they allowed you to steal as long its not over 900$ can't make this shit up.
Watching should be legal.
If I'm walking home or to my car from work; I don't want to be arrested for "watching a street race". When in reality it was just 2 morons with their 100hp rice boxes at the same intersection.
Then again, I still believe in the constitution and the right to record people in public (1st)...
Now if you're one of those single-digit-IQ glue sniffers who run into the middle of a busy street and get smacked by a car; you should be arrested, charged, and forced to pay for damages and the driver should face zero repercussions. I dont care if your "peacefully protesting" or clout-chasing.
Waaaaay too many laws protecting stupid people from natural consequences. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I dont think the spectators are the problem but they are mixed in with the blockers who make it harder for people and law enforcement to get by so arresting spectators justifiable in that case.
Streets closed pizza boi. Find another way home
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“Godamn street racers” 💨
The future of cars is going to suck so much, cause eventually it's just going to get to a point where you have zero control over the vehicle. Plus side traffic should get better, but I doubt it.
I don't want a new car
It's a simple fix in my opinion, remove speed limits on highways, and make street racing a federal crime. Then people can go as fast as they want when they want to on the highway, where that kind of stuff belongs.
Also it would cut down the amount of head to head races, and encourage people to do more stuff like time trials which would be really hard to stop.
never heard of roll racing? guys go from 60 to 200mph+. So your idea would work wonderfully. Autobahn style.
That would require people to get out of the passing lane when they can and no distracted driving.
That only works for the Germans because they are generally very strict rule-followers.
@@Weimerica8841 IDK about that, drinking and driving in Germany is very strictly punished, yet when I was there a few years ago it was still fairly common to see people with a 6 pack half finished in their passenger seat.
Also when you think about it, if they removed speed limits on highways, it would make people a lot more attentive, especially with cars zooming by at 150mph.... XD
I believe the speed limits on freeways should be LOWERED. Back when I was a teenager the national speed limit was 55 mph, and I had no problem with it. And it was enforced. Now it is 75 mph in my state, and everybody is doing 95-100 mph, and the cops don't enforce anything. I understand drag racing. The acceleration is where the fun is. Simply driving down the road at a steady 95-100 mph doesn't feel any different than going 65 mph.
@@geraldscott4302 Might as well go 100 then...
10:32 thing is that, as counterintuitive as it sounds, the safe places for people to shoot up have shown that it is a better alternative than locking them up. It helps a lot more with recovery than punishing them. Some people listen and learn from being locked up but that doesn't work for everybody.
They said, I agree with you on basically everything else.
Do you really think that drug addicts want to recover? I doubt that they want to.
People are just going to run fake tags, or no tags at all.
And more people are just going to start running from the cops now 🤷♂️
And everyone that goes to these "meets" know the risks involved.
Stupid behaviour of few are costing the rest of us . The speed limiter stuff is too damn much control.
The intersection takeovers are fucking stupid. If you’re dumb enough to stand anywhere near that or in front of cars racing then you are full well knowingly that you are in possible danger if the cars lose control. And these takeovers are the reason why we are losing everything for our cars, especially California. I’m a motorcycle rider, I used to be in the car scene heavily. And we would go out and race, drift whatever but we were way out like 15 or 30 miles away from ANYONE, yeah we were scared if someone got hurt we were fucked but we went out anyway and we understood the risks, and we still went out. Being a motorcyclist, I like stunting so we go out to a lot and keep away from everyone else, like we even get permission from owners of property and they don’t mind as long as we are cool and no one dies or damages property intentionally or if we do we pay for fixes. I’m all for having fun but being safe while doing it too.
I’ll tell you right now, they are not going to be able to add speed limiters, breathilizers, etc to these cars. It’s going to cost too much. The people will fight back, and we will win. It’s a violation to our privacy, once you’re a convicted felon or proved to the justice system you are a liability then your rights are stripped, but to impose on people who have nothing to do with it, is not going to fly.
Honestly Craig Here in Florida cops give a shit about racing they only pull you over for not using your turn signals and not making a full stop
“One guy dead for ignoring the laws of physics” 😭
How much anyone want to bet that the reason anyone gave this video a thumbs down is because they are guilty of this, and think they're doing nothing wrong, and don't like being told they're wrong?
I disagree with newer cars will have built in breathalyzers and camera 🎥 for Government officials to ticket 🎟 you and monitor your every action.
It has so many things wrong with it involving your rights, sale ability of a narcissist car like that. Keeping cops number one job giving tickets and privacy issues.
Love the intro. And where can we. Get the art of the Supra and Skyline?!
Craig remember the time on San Fernando Rd behind the Juvenile Hall when the cops blocked off both sides of the road. Brought in County Buses and Arrested Everyone participating and watching the illegal street races.
Common sense isn't to common these days 🤷🏼♂️ and it doesn't help when you can buy a turn key car with over 3-400 HP
I don't know bout y'all but I'm more of a middle of no where kinda guy. No one to hurt except myself.
I despise street takeovers. Just bring it to a fucking parking lot. Quit blocking traffic.
It's not about the cars, it's about the attention. They also seem to get off on pissing people off.
Really nice group of people.
@@Weimerica8841 I know it's not about the cars. I don't understand why they don't do it in a parking lot. Bothering no one but themselves. Highway takeovers are even worse. Yes because everyone on the road has amazing breaks at 70mph.
@@JonesBrothersProductionsiac Because doing it in a parking lot means no crowd (even though half of the crowd is usually just trying to get home lol) and no clout. It also doesn't upset anyone, so there are no "haters" to complain about.
Doing it in a parking lot would make them realize how sad the whole thing really is. Just a bunch of guys who didn'y get enough attention as children.
Used to street race in late 90s and early 2000s. Now I'm 40 and I do all my racing on the track. Safe and fun. These intersection take overs just stupid.
I like prepped, timed tracks. You don't need to have anything fast to have fun, you just have to try to improve your time slip. Plus you get to hang out worry free and see what other cars run.
I have never understood why this is so difficult to sort out. The government don't need to build tracks - just set aside some ground and let people make their own. Give them some basic rules like no spectators after the line and let them get on with it.
Then to go with this any purposeful infringement on the street should be jumped on way, way harder.
Glad you are raising these issues Craig I commented on another vid you did sometime ago and it’s timely, I have a few cars and while I’m a bit younger than you Im still closer to your end of the spectrum than these kids today with names on there cars and accounts on every social media platform.
I follow quite a few YT channels because I am an avid car and bike scene ( I still race track, MX for fun, bit of off-road again fun, no longer pro, still race MTB, do the odd track days in car for fun, I am owner driver rider and adrenaline junky, that said, I use my head, a friend asked me the other day why I don’t have radar detector in my cars and I said I prefer to trust me instincts and when I am taking some liberties on those rare occasions on backroads (canyons, country roads ) which are abundant where I live, I prefer to be on my game focused and use my brains, still a risk,, not my points though re the vid.
My point is like you have said there is allot of activity that’s been regularly streamed uploaded by many tubers some of which I sub to won’t mention anyone or where, but it’s like it is ingrained in them that this is only a thing on a California that rules don’t apply to them because they have a big TH-cam channel or Insta, more so it’s the modifications, like straight piped dump piped venting to air and while Id like to be able to do some of that stuff to my cars I can’t if I want to legally street drive them on weekends, track only no problem, but my JDMs are mostly street, I have cars ranging from 20k to 150k (not USD) I regularly get pulled over but not for infringing, sometimes because they are car people and just want to check out the cars, but every-time they are shocked when my drivers window comes down and ai take my glasses off and they see a mature adult not some tweenie (20s man /woman child) I say anyways most can’t afford cars like this, why would you think that, but of course there are plenty who have nice cars like mine or others, some have good income jobs I guess, it was def harder for me when these cars were new and ai was late teen early twenties co pared to US many of these cars were 70-130k when brand new here in the 90s, how where they get the money I don’t know, guess money comes easier today for younger people.
I understand youtubers state side can make allot and many channels I follow are very financial have worked hard to build and it’s not easy, but reality is life ain’t easy in regular jobs (pointing at you TH-camrs who say this) be thankful you work hard at working on your passion, not a dead end 9/5 and good on them for that. I celebrate success of these and myself or others.
My point is they are also successful marketeers, probably most influential as shown by the many sponsors they promote and are attractive to once the channels have enough traffic or subs likes etc, but some regularly go too’s eg builds are mostly for illegal mods that are promoting indirectly to build their channels, their brand almost at the car scene expense, it also like an example of young girls who get plastic surgery to look that mode, they constantly see in magazines or today online or insta channels, they want what they can’t have it’s marketed to them constantly.
As you have said, these commie states and commie governments are coming, these guys don’t care about the environment, that’s just a hook for everyday common people that are sheep to society to believe in, my country imports more coal now for energy supply and crisis management than ever in history and we promote ourselves as 100% pure.
it’s commie, propoganda, it is about control, we need laws and we need governance but for all and for rights of all and freedoms, but that does not mean we can do what we like to hell with anybody, as you say there are consequences, life and death it’s part of life, you still have to make informed decisions even if you are facing wether it’s on a track a closed circuit or street life is about choices risks, it’s this basic do unto others that you would want done un to you!
If we want to keep our cars out investments and our passions for the long term, we can’t be giving these woke, commie, cancel culture neo nazais any opportunity excuses and BS rhetoric about saving the plant pet that they fckd up and we are paying for,
abut we have to get out shit together, these kids seem to have just thrown out the bath water with the bath and said we are gonna lose it, let’s use it while we can and to hell with anyone or any thing.
I watched a video this week, a car which I have followed the build and enjoy the channel and he cars, he drives it main down town city, boosting through lights drifting around corners where built up traffic is on every lane and is laughing at pedestrians and other drivers reactions and it’s all over youtube in road daylight, not the first time. He’s just laughing enjoying it like it’s an everyday thing which it almost is with him, that side of his channel ai don’t like, seeing him in Mexico no problem if he hurts himself ok but dpnt out others at risk, don’t expose yourself, he’s very recognisable by his cars alone, he needs no name on his car, though his plate is always shown in vids.Old saying be a thinker, not a stinker!
I have seen a guy with over 1 million subs he buys dirtbikes and him, his posse of riders which can be huge sometimes ride daytime and night time on dirtbikes (motocross bikes essentially , unregistrable, these are not street bikes they are close course off road race bikes 10” suspension front and rear, 450 4t MX weapons doing wheelies for days through red lights in main street built up cities him and his posses are everywhere night and day, a couple of years ago one of those riders was killed being hit by a car legitimately driving thru the intersection where they collided the guys have no helmets on, no dirtbike gear, just GoPros.
I’m not a fuddy or some rat, I have never called on anyone, unless at an accident scene which ai have been at twice randomly driving so,eh were and had to help on scene it’s not pretty nice and you never forget. I still as said earlier take my liberties at times but where the border is beyond mexico, still risk, someone random could come out of a hidden drive way on a back road most risk is from stock, a sheep, cow or deer or wombat, pig. even dog, etc have had some neat misses, But id never blow a red light or a stop sign, even in back country. know one intersection that is stop sign only where a number of deaths resulting in jail for offenders that survived has occurred.
Anyways good topic keep up the fight and the educating. information am behind you 100% I hope I don’t live to see the 40lm restricted car commie neo nazai scene before I die, my casket will be my MK4, Im taking it with me.
Lastly what is almost absurd is while u mention Government’s pushing the EV green and restricted future, the EV manufacturers are making all EVs more easily powerful for the generation of people who may be law abiding but who are in general the worst drivers with the lest amount of skill behind a wheel and proof of that is the sheer amount distractions in the car from infotainment systems to crap for kids in the back seats and to prove it even more the sheer amount of abS technology that’s supposed to make them and everyone else safe, the safest person is the person who knows there limitations is trained as well as possible, makes good decisions and is aware of theirs and others on the road or any environment not some programable POS technology, if it’s not bad enough we suffer cyber attacks on almost a per second basis now our future cars will be devices they can also hack, track and control. I’m not in and hell will freeze over before I buy into it, they’ll have to pull my cars from my cold dead hands. I still like to let my hair down, I am prepared to follow common sense laws for all, not widely poor future unsustainable Bas rhetoric regarding our rights and abilities to drive, I have always paid my taxes, I have always insured, certified and registered my cars and bikes for road that were to be used on public roads, I will not support any Government that takes away my rights when I have paid my dues for me and many others, I don’t have any car on the street without it’s cats mufflers or any other std emission equipment, It may have been improved eg OEM plus. So that’s my other side of the coin.
Anyways Mav out, cheers for the vid and I hope the street shut downs and these groups wake up and smell the bacon before the burn the toast for all of us. peace out 🤙🤘
If you're over 24 and going to these. Re evaluate your life.
Governments won't limit your speed for you, they need that revenue too much
It's just going to make it worse on reasonable car enthusiast who will suffer long term from this idiotic acts and hastened restrictions aiming to stop that. I myself drive in more spirited manner from time to time wherever its safe, and i dont speed in any excessive way, but this just goes on to kill more and more of the fun in cars on top of everything that ruined most of the more pedestrian cars in last 10 years. Even if i grab myself an older car i always wanted to have they will probably prohibit me from driving it in 10-15 years
Government funded brothel?
Give that some serious thought.
-people are being employed, possibly with benefits (not that kind 😄)
-it's regulated
- safer than standing on a street corner.
I think you know my stance. Change my mind!
I'm a convicted felon and own two business taking home 300k a year 🤔
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Have you considered a career in government with them credentials 😂😂
I remember when I went to jail for littering, no one wanted to associate with me. So I included 'creating a nuisance' and things got better.