*They should have just quit after 7.* *The ending with Paul driving off would be the perfect ending and be more respectful towards Paul. After all, wasn’t Paul meant to be the protagonist?*
Paul said there will be 10, so they wanna honor him. But then there will be 11. I guess sometimes you should sacrifice some honor and dignity for money.
only till Tokyo drift I can remember what actually happens in the movies, the movies after that were so generic that I literally forgot what happened. I have to admit the writing wasn the best in the first movies but it gave something that lots of car guys enjoy instead of these B tier action movies
@ProtogenCantEatThis Because they have turned into mindless, drooling stunts and special effects with no plot and no basis in the real world. I thought he said it pretty well.
@ProtogenCantEatThis I agree completely. Actually, the only really good F&F movies were the first three but since 4 and 5 were prequels and were not yet totally over the top, I include them in my suggestion.
1 and 2 are the OG's for sure, tokiyo drift was just not on the same page as the first two. The last good one was ff4, after that it went down hill asfuck
They aren't street racing films anymore, they've been action flicks since at least Fast Five. Tokyo Drift didn't make much money, and it's arguably the best from a street racing / car enthusiast perspective. Meanwhile as soon as they've went for more and more action they've made much more money.
Leon probably became Cypher's baby daddy at this point. Jessy owns a tech company like apple. Vince Faked his death and became the new Kingpin of Brazil and favellas without working. The RX7 got stolen by Mad Mike Whiddett and 4 rotor swapped. Jeremy Clarkson stole Big bird for test driving. Johnny didn't die but suffered a temporary paralysis after that gunshot. He changed his identity, left race wars, fully accepted his Yakuza ties and became Mr. Yoshida, leader of the Middo Naito Kurabu. Letty became infertile, then had a gender change reveal and shows off hwr cockring. Hahn and Brian moved to Haiti to practice voodoo and resurrection, making contact with and befriending the grim reaper, who has a twin charged v12 hearse. Tej and Roman find out that they were half brothers and that guy Fishburn played in Biker Boyz is their father. Roman's mother is Queen Latifa's character from set it off and Tej's mother is Captain Marvel's fighter pilot co-worker (where he got his tech knowledge from. And the plot twist is that Dom'w charger is possessed by the same evil spirit that possessed Christine and The Car. That Spirit is believed to be Azazel from the movie Fallen. The spirit is tied to Dom through a curse which causes him to poses a Charger no matter where he goes. Only person that can stop it is Alonzo Harris, who happens to be Hobbs' arch nemesis. Meanwhile Nila and letty have an undercover relationship. Oh and Epstein abused Cypher as a teen and she's out for revenge. Hacking into his bank accounts, stealing his assets and blackmailing the world's top politicians in order to aquire military super weapons after she accidentally came across cctv video that proved OJ did it. It was in a secure folder along with that photo Superhead took of P-diddy in that "compromising" position. PS. Universal or anyone else, please contact me before stealing my story plot. Update: Things just got a whole lot more twisted. Turns out, the turbo Dom blew up on the 1950s Chevrolet Fleetline, was actually smuggled into Cuba by Dom's uncle. It was stolen off of Ayrton Senna's MP4/4, on the day everyone flew out for the funeral. Inside the turbine housing there's a blueprints laser engraved for a not yet patented magnetic turbine shaft. Garrett has hired mercenaries, in the form of the original descendants of the hashashin klan, to retrieve it and eliminate anyone who stands in there way. Borg Warner, kidnapped Dom's cuban cousin and threaten to throw him into the engine of an Antanov 225, in order to manipulate them into retrieving the blueprints first. Whoever files the patent first will become the next absolute power company in the forced induction world for the following 30 years. Dom hits up Turbonetics to make a deal in order for some help.
I personally think they should have stopped when Paul Walker died, but I agree with everything you are saying. And I found if you imagine the later movies like marvel movies, it's more enjoyable.
Not really though... like he said anything superheroey or whatever is explained in the story in movies like a marvel movie and you don't have torpedoes propelling themselves ABOVE water, 100mph submarines and tanks or 40 mile runways xD
The problem is, as consumers, if we keep paying for shit, we will keep receiving it, it’s universals highest grossing franchise, I haven’t watched the last two movies because they just got ridiculous, and that was already 3 movies past it going shit.
I haven't seen 8 and I won't see 9 and I started out LOVING these movies. I was 20 when the first one came out. I actually felt it when Paul Walker passed and the ending of 7 legit made me cry in the theater. That's where it ended for me. These movies are why I'm into tuner cars and not muscle cars. The Fast movies, the first three anyway will always be special. RIP Paul Walker RIP Nicky Hayden.
Fast and furious ended on #7 in my opinion. That closing scene saying goodbye to Paul, that shoulda been it. It would have been such an incredible way to end the series while it was still on top. One last "Family" speech by Vin Diesel, the flashbacks to Paul in the previous episodes, the whole theatre audience in tears... That should have been it.
@@Bikaz Yup, very true! They have no desire to leave a legacy, its milk the legacy until there is nothing left. And honestly from a business standpoint, you cannot blame them. But being a fan of the franchise, it sure is sad to see where it has gone since.
Walked in to F9 telling myself nobody’s gonna die, Jacob will become a good guy, everybody will survive some crazy stunt without a scratch, and Brian will still make an appearance somehow. Shits so predictable it’s awful
@@cjr728 Close lol there’s a scene where there’s like 50 dudes pinning him down on a catwalk and he somehow has the strength to get them all off of him and then he rips the catwalk down himself falling like 500 feet and nearly drowning and then has a flashback and wakes up without a scratch on him lmao. They literally trolled the fans the entire movie because Roman kept insisting that they’re all like immortals since they do all this shit and always end up without a scratch
Asking Universal to return to the original feel of F&F is like asking EA to give us a reboot of Need For Speed Underground. Even when they try, it ends up feeling dull and uninteresting. Those days are long gone.
Really there are two sides in the NFS world. The original super cars and police chase crowd and the tuners with unlimited modifications crowd. EA needs to find a way to satisfy both sides. I started playing NFS way back on Windows 98, NFS High Stakes. So I am a fan of both styles of NFS myself.
I agree they should've ended the franchise with Furious 7. It was a perfect ending/conclusion to the franchise, the characters & of course Paul Walker.
and not have made billions of dollars with the following movies and toys and all that? Movies are an industry, money in the end is the main goal for most of it :)
@@thomaspanditfan2435 The writing was not the best, but to me, the writing was pretty bad for all of the films. Especially once I began to learn more about cars and actually drive. lol But I guess when you becoming even remotely knowledgeable about anything, it ruins a movie.
@@mr.wiggles7535 not necessarily, Interstellar for example is scientifically as correct as possible (save for the extradimensional stuff maybe), and that's 2 hours of eye candy with a story interspersed. F&F could've done this and probably end up a car cult hit like Initial D, but also never get the funding for literal out-of-this-world action scenes. The movies are only superficially ruined. When you look deeper in the production process (for example by watching Craig Lieberman), the movies become more enjoyable as the work of a passionate team that used real cars to make a mainstream action movie, not as a story that immerses you with accuracy. It's beyond realism at this point, but it's still packed with cars, action, and self aware humor (Roman is basically Riding Bean now).
Mad Max: Fury Road is a car chase movie that should be the benchmark for all car chase movies. Despite some superhuman qualities to the protagonists, the movie does not make you cringe at the absurdity of it all.
One thing that always stood out to me (in a sense) was at the end of 2 Fast 2 Furious when Carter Verone says “I’ll see you soon”. It wouldn’t be as big a plot as saving the world but it would certainly go a long way in bringing the franchise back down to earth (literally) in having him break out of prison and kill off a character. I fear that with the way the franchise is now and Universal’s direction of “bigger is better (and more financially viable)” that wouldn’t happen. But it’s certainly an idea or way in which we can bring the franchise back around - I’m unsure how you’d weave the car racing back into it but given we’ve now gone to space in Fast 9, anything is possible
For me, the current "Fast and Furious" movies are just action-fiction movies with the actors from the original movies, I don't go to the cinema and pay to see these movies, I see them on television 1-2 years after, and they are movies I only watch once because they're so ridiculous, while the originals movies I have DVDs and I've seen many times.
Same I've seen the original and the second and Tokyo one dvd I own them on DVD. I decently think they desperately need a reboot especially if there gonna make f10 and f11. Also I hope they somehow bring Brian back even digitally.
We forgetting one thing😎: Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system. 🙌🏼
Even tokyo drift is actually a kick ass movie. Just because Paul and Vin aren't main characters it was hated on. But for what it truly is, its fast 1 tokyo style. But yes fast 2 is awesome I enjoyed watching it just as much as fast 1 and 3
21:23 "For those of you that don't follow politics and don't care about WW3 coming, it's not a big deal to you." Man, that subtle delicate satire in this one... nice.
The first 3 movies are my favorite movies of all time. They influenced my life into a HUGE car nerd. I've seen the films countless times; worn out VHS copies, and even 1 DVD. From 4th grade to my mid 30s, I'm at the point of refusing to pay to watch the 9th installment. It's the end of a GREAT era......
There is such a massive market for another car culture franchise now. I'm heavily into modified cars and own plenty of 90s JDM cars. I have MANY friends that relive the first few f&f movies up to Tokyo drift which personally I love the most. Now they are just overdone boring average action movies. Someone out there needs to, literally, bring it back down to earth. Car guys hate what f&f has become.
Yup after Tokyo Drift it was all down hill from there. It's literally not the same franchise anymore 🤦♂️. Tokyo drift had some much potential at the time of release due to "Formula Drift" being huge on TV. They really should of built on that 🤷♂️.
The cool thing about the first moves is that we could see the cars we really see everyday and afford .We can see it and say wow I see my car in the move tuned up but now you see Tanks Submarine Exotic cars that only the rich can have and that's all good but it's not what made us love the move
The 5th was when I said that the franchise was dead. When they chose to skip a street race, I knew it was over. Now the movies are just dumb actionflicks, thats okay, but its not F&F to me
Next thing you know, Gal Godot didn't die, becomes a reveal in the post credit scene in Fast 10, becomes a major player in Fast 11, and will be in an all-girl spin-off. This franchise should have ended at 7.
100% agree. The original got me into cars and shed light on a lifestyle. I kind of walked away dumbfounded after seeing Fast 9. I don't understand how Universal approved this story. The movie is an insult to everything Fast and the Furious was built on.
Yeah , it was like the director/ producers were taking the piss knowing no matter what stupid shit they make fans are gonna pay money to sit there and watch it .. FF9 was rubbish but the studio is laughing all the way to the bank.
Mr. Nobody is Jesse's Dad and turns out to be the main villain because he blames Dom for Jesse's death. Cypher dies in Fast 10. Jesse will turn out to be alive in Fast 11 and when Nobody finds out he calls off the war. No dinner scene in Fast 10. Dinner in Fast 11 will include CGI Paul and Dom and the series will end on a last race where Dom wrecked in Fast 1. The train will pass behind them as they drive away from the camera to block the viewer from knowing who won. Fade to black.
Honestly, I feel like even though 2F and Tokyo Drift were solid (Solid as in I dig both of 'em, I'm not a film critic by any means lmao) the series could've gone in an entirely different direction after the original; "Turbocharged Prelude" could've easily been a full sequel if the writers focused a bit more on the crime drama side of things, like Brian being on the run and some of the racing in the meantime instead of cutting to the chase with 2F. Obviously it's a bit of a pipe dream at this point, but one of my best friends and I were talking about where the series went wrong just a few days ago and I figured I might as well throw out that suggestion, y'know?
I'd like if they would explore the origins of the characters, like what happened before 1st F&F. How did Dom pack-up with the friends he had in F&F1, how did he land in the jail as he mentions it in F&F1 during escape with Brian etc. etc. Just so we could get more realistic story before they becomed killing machines.
They explain a tiny bit on how everyone met in the first one. I do agree that a prologue would be interesting on how they entered the street racing scene and Dom and Letty start dating. Sadly I don't think we are ever going to see that.
I think the only character who has so far actually stayed dead is Giselle, and I think the only reason why is because Gal Gadot took on the role of Wonder Woman. With the Transformers franchise, they killed Optimus Prime Edit: Fast 9 premiering first in China definitely proves that the franchise isn't going back to street racing because China doesn't have a strong car culture
Fast and furious 12 Dom rides a T-Rex VS Undertaker (his other brother) rides a Harley Screenplay: Stop light turns green, Both Toretto brothers Floors it. Undertaker’s bike transform into a spaceship and goes into hyper speed. Dom double clutches (Don’t ask me how he double clutch the t-Rex but he just does) and wins the race. Sad Music comes on they say goodbye, the movie ends. Until fast and the furious: In Space!
I personally felt like it should have ended after Tokyo Drift. I completely lost the story everything after that. Cars went from most average people can afford to only high earning price tags. Storyline went from believable to nonse scenarios & cheesy lines. Every movie after Paul Walkers death is just pure greed.
Facts. I miss the old ones not 4 etc the rest aren't the same. Till this day I keep watching the first one over and over again. I think it's way better than the new ones.
@@kingdiamond775 it is. It’s the only one where they showed you can illegally street race but showed to to keep the pediatricians safe. The rest is of the movies is why we have locos in real life driving crazy
I think 5 should have been the one where they finished it because each character was happy like they all made enough money and then they could have retired but then they decided to bring back letty for no reason
Also the reputation of the franchise was still good unlike today where I would say is laughable and the movies are all a mess with lots of plot holes and nonsense. Fast five should have been end.
@@thomaspanditfan2435 well they could just made another of those short movies like turbo charged prelude to explain how Han ended up in Tokyo but I still think that after 5 they said "f*ck it" and went complete nuts with the franchise. Still 6 and 7 are not as bad as 8 and 9 which are just a joke but that's just personal preference I guess. Interesting to see other points of view
@@miguelcf2506 for me it ended at 7. Except the car harpooning scene, I don't like anything from 8. If 10 and 11 some freaking how are able to give a good redemption to this franchise, then maybe, just maybe it could top 5 or 7. Also, killing of someone as important as Giselle in a short film instead of the final battle of an actual movie, feels really cheap. Most probably won't even see it. That's the same thing that happened during the 4th one. Everyone including me kept on asking who are these other people and how the hell does Dom know Han. It was only after I watched Los bandelaros in 2017 I got to know how
They also do shit that is completely unrealistic, who the fuck is gonna get away with flying a weaponized military grade chopper in downtown Los Angeles for more than 5 sec without being shot down
The bullshit started with the second movie. Jumping the Camaro on a boat or that ejecting seat on the Challenger?! It was infantile and I was glad that Tokyo Drift was a little more mature again in the cosmos of those movies, but it wouldn't last...
Your "mercenary" comment got me thinking in a whole new way about where this franchise had ended up...simply put (and to date myself a bit in the process): In 2001, a crack street racing crew was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they almost certainly did commit. This crew promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire...The Family.
If anything, after Walker’s death, they should have dropped the Toretto connection entirely. If they wanted to continue the films, Lucas Black could have been the star. Is he a good actor? No. But an old brick is a better actor than Vin Diesel.
I think its funny that everyone judges Tokyo drift as the worst because it had bad box office. It wasn't because of the no one reacts to see the cars, it was because it's the only one that did not headline Paul or Vin.
great video. about bond movies i can agree. me and my family and family friends also agree your thoughts. 2 of those were hardcore 007 fans. when i showed this video to them they were like that guy is so right.
Nailed it. The first and the third movie I can watch over and over again, but once the team reached international superhero tier, I felt the soul of the movie was just ripped out. I miss the classic street racing focus.
Yeah I completely agree fast four was the last one that was watchable for me because it still contained a lot of car content even if it was absurd and unexplainable I still got to look at cool cars and that was one of the big draws for me to fast and furious getting to see cool cars and catching them saying stupid shit like the famous double clutch comment but now it’s just how can they be more ridiculous than they were before but it’s too ridiculous for me to even be able to shut my brain off too and I smoke a ton of weed
I like the first 3 movies. IT did annoy me that only a few scenes were street racing, but Tokyo Drift won me over with a guy whose whole mission was not to find who was robbing a bunch of trucks or get an Argentinian drug lord arrested, but to win at drifting. Yes, the Yakuza was there, but the conflict was resolved by drifting, a form of street racing focused on skill rather than who gets to the finish line first. That's what I wanted Fast and Furious to have more of. Since Tokyo Drift, I haven't seen anything newer than that.
Ehh, I mean 2F is pretty bad apart from the nostalgia/cheese factor. The 4th one was fine, 5 was alright, but then they kinda remade F5 four more times, with new locations and cars. It's like Pokemon.
Absolutely loved 1 and 3. And I genuinely do not remember much that happened from 4 thru 8 (probably wont watch 9) I remember them being entertaining though.
While I enjoyed the 1st movie, it was still just a rip off of Point Break. They simply substituted tuner cars for surf boards, Semi truck heists for bank robberies and even had the 2 main characters eating tuna fish sandwiches.
My headcanon: Almost everyone died (including Brian) in the street ambush during Fast 5. The only survivors were Dom and Hobbs but are left severely injured. They were rescued but were left comatose. So the ending of Fast 5, the 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th movie is just a dream from Dom and the Hobbs and Shaw movie is just a dream from Hobbs. This is the main reason why nothing makes sense anymore and they're basically superheroes now. Dom and Hobbs are confined in different hospital rooms so that explains why they rarely get to interact in the movie.
I cared for the first 3, after that I never saw another movie of those. Is like they now care to connect special effects rather than what was supposed to be.
I strongly agree with Craig Lieberman and his views on them milking the Fast & Furious franchise. I used to be a fan of the Fast & Furious films myself mainly because of the cars and street racing, but after Paul Walker died and when the 7th film came out, I got very disillusioned and disinterested with the franchise because of the fact that they’re bringing out more films and they all became too far fetched. They weren’t about street racing and car culture anymore just about generic, boring Mission Impossible/Avengers sh*t with silly, daft and unconvincing action and stunts. I have been saying this a million times - They should've stopped after the 7th film and not make anymore as _Fast & Furious 7_ in my eyes was the fitting end to it the franchise. Finally I would love to give a standing ovation to Craig Lieberman himself for his work on the first 2 Fast & Furious films especially the original which is one of my all time favourite films 👏
For me the franchise died with Paul Walker...I'm sorry but it just isn't the same without Brian. Love the rest of the cast, Vin is great, Michelle has came a long way in acting, Jordana is amazing, Ludacris is always funny, Loved seeing Jason Statgam and The Rock come in too. But the movies don't feel the the first six movies anymore, hell the first 3 are the only ones that really makes sense as tuner movies - it's still a great trilogy to me. The newer movies are great, but they're not the same movies as the first three in my eyes - the franchise went too far away from it's roots.
For me, even the action scenes capped at Fast Five. Destroying sh*t with a heavy safe was so much fun to watch, even if there's no way two dodge chargers could even budge that thing. :p
In F10 Ben Affleck's batman and Samuel Jackson's Nick fury appears at Dom's house inviting the team to join the JL and the Avengers. Dom rejects them telling they are FAMILY... THE FAMILY LEAGUE
I totally agree I feel like 1st, 2, 3 and 4 movies were the best, after f5 I wasn't to much interested any more since it had nothing to do with street racing, but they were still I guess ok movies, but when paul died, the movie were not the same with out him, fast and furious is nothing with out the buster
I don’t understand why they couldn’t have just stayed true to street racing.. the super hero crap killed the franchise. They were normal people before that.
Seriously they need to stop!! The sequels NO longer make any sense..... 🤦♂️🤦♂️ It's gone on for far too long at this point. 😑😔😒 But Hollywood loves money so we all know they'll never stop.....😒🤦♂️🧐🙄
Hollywood has always been all about the money. I've watched all the F&F movies, but they should have stopped after #3. They could have continued with the franchise, but it should have been rebranded.
2 did bad because Vin Diesel was gone. 3 did bad because it looked, at the surface, like a cheap spinoff without Paul Walker or Vin Diesel. 4 did better because it brought them back. My opinion. After that we got a generation of people who are incredibly dumbed down and need loud noises to keep their attention.
I have to agree, I actually stopped after 2 fast 2 furious, and caught the rest of the series on Blu Ray when I had nothing to do for the day. The DNA of FF was street racing. Now with its bigger budget, it starting to feel like Dom has morphed into his alter ego Xander from XXX but added his friends to save the world with his friends with a compliment of fast cars now.
*They should have just quit after 7.*
*The ending with Paul driving off would be the perfect ending and be more respectful towards Paul. After all, wasn’t Paul meant to be the protagonist?*
100%
Paul said there will be 10, so they wanna honor him.
But then there will be 11.
I guess sometimes you should sacrifice some honor and dignity for money.
Paul WAS the protagonist, until Vin Diesel stole that spot.
It seems originally they wanted to because of the flashback stuff the put in. It would have been a perfect ending to the series.
@@EyeGlower i think its 10 with him, but i see your point, sigh
Universal doesn't need quality writing. They've got family.
I think craig lacks family
Hahaha nice
Lol family is nice.. but a fiero in space is way too far
😂
Lmfaoo
only till Tokyo drift I can remember what actually happens in the movies, the movies after that were so generic that I literally forgot what happened. I have to admit the writing wasn the best in the first movies but it gave something that lots of car guys enjoy instead of these B tier action movies
i was thinking the exact same thing
Wife and I had to re-watch them all to remember what was happening in the movies after the 4th one. They all have blended together.
@ProtogenCantEatThis Because they have turned into mindless, drooling stunts and special effects with no plot and no basis in the real world. I thought he said it pretty well.
@ProtogenCantEatThis I agree completely. Actually, the only really good F&F movies were the first three but since 4 and 5 were prequels and were not yet totally over the top, I include them in my suggestion.
1 and 2 are the OG's for sure, tokiyo drift was just not on the same page as the first two. The last good one was ff4, after that it went down hill asfuck
Anyone else remember when the movies were meant to bring light to the import car scene in America? They should have stopped after Tokyo Drift.
At this point. I'm just waiting for Jesse to come back
Lol then they'll have Johnny Tran will come back as well and Jesse and him will work together because the past is the past, they're family now
Didnt Mr Nobody bring him back I am not sure what about their other friend who they forgot about who saved Letty when she crashed the honda
FF10 RISE OR DIE
@@wolfosteel02 Don't forget Vince, LOL Surprised they haven't done that yet.
I gonna study cinematography just to make a worthy, accurate and unique street racing film to beat Universal in it's own game, my new purpose in life
I went more movie fast and furious
They aren't street racing films anymore, they've been action flicks since at least Fast Five.
Tokyo Drift didn't make much money, and it's arguably the best from a street racing / car enthusiast perspective. Meanwhile as soon as they've went for more and more action they've made much more money.
@@ShreN_ I know that non-car people wants a little bit of sensationalism and excentric touches, but i'll give it my own plot-twist
Wishing you the best looking forward to seeing it!
I'm intruiged by your idea.
Leon probably became Cypher's baby daddy at this point. Jessy owns a tech company like apple. Vince Faked his death and became the new Kingpin of Brazil and favellas without working. The RX7 got stolen by Mad Mike Whiddett and 4 rotor swapped. Jeremy Clarkson stole Big bird for test driving. Johnny didn't die but suffered a temporary paralysis after that gunshot. He changed his identity, left race wars, fully accepted his Yakuza ties and became Mr. Yoshida, leader of the Middo Naito Kurabu. Letty became infertile, then had a gender change reveal and shows off hwr cockring. Hahn and Brian moved to Haiti to practice voodoo and resurrection, making contact with and befriending the grim reaper, who has a twin charged v12 hearse. Tej and Roman find out that they were half brothers and that guy Fishburn played in Biker Boyz is their father. Roman's mother is Queen Latifa's character from set it off and Tej's mother is Captain Marvel's fighter pilot co-worker (where he got his tech knowledge from. And the plot twist is that Dom'w charger is possessed by the same evil spirit that possessed Christine and The Car. That Spirit is believed to be Azazel from the movie Fallen. The spirit is tied to Dom through a curse which causes him to poses a Charger no matter where he goes. Only person that can stop it is Alonzo Harris, who happens to be Hobbs' arch nemesis. Meanwhile Nila and letty have an undercover relationship. Oh and Epstein abused Cypher as a teen and she's out for revenge. Hacking into his bank accounts, stealing his assets and blackmailing the world's top politicians in order to aquire military super weapons after she accidentally came across cctv video that proved OJ did it. It was in a secure folder along with that photo Superhead took of P-diddy in that "compromising" position.
PS. Universal or anyone else, please contact me before stealing my story plot.
Update: Things just got a whole lot more twisted. Turns out, the turbo Dom blew up on the 1950s Chevrolet Fleetline, was actually smuggled into Cuba by Dom's uncle. It was stolen off of Ayrton Senna's MP4/4, on the day everyone flew out for the funeral. Inside the turbine housing there's a blueprints laser engraved for a not yet patented magnetic turbine shaft. Garrett has hired mercenaries, in the form of the original descendants of the hashashin klan, to retrieve it and eliminate anyone who stands in there way. Borg Warner, kidnapped Dom's cuban cousin and threaten to throw him into the engine of an Antanov 225, in order to manipulate them into retrieving the blueprints first. Whoever files the patent first will become the next absolute power company in the forced induction world for the following 30 years. Dom hits up Turbonetics to make a deal in order for some help.
Makes sense
These are the mad ramblings of an unhinged man.
someone get this man a dumptruck of money and i want a fleshed out script on my desk in the morning!!!!
@@zajaka4164 not as far fetched as going to space with a diving helmet and kitchen gloves
This would be the crossover of crossovers lol. It would make stuff even more confusing.
I personally think they should have stopped when Paul Walker died, but I agree with everything you are saying. And I found if you imagine the later movies like marvel movies, it's more enjoyable.
Not really though... like he said anything superheroey or whatever is explained in the story in movies like a marvel movie and you don't have torpedoes propelling themselves ABOVE water, 100mph submarines and tanks or 40 mile runways xD
The problem is, as consumers, if we keep paying for shit, we will keep receiving it, it’s universals highest grossing franchise, I haven’t watched the last two movies because they just got ridiculous, and that was already 3 movies past it going shit.
I haven't seen 8 and I won't see 9 and I started out LOVING these movies. I was 20 when the first one came out. I actually felt it when Paul Walker passed and the ending of 7 legit made me cry in the theater. That's where it ended for me. These movies are why I'm into tuner cars and not muscle cars. The Fast movies, the first three anyway will always be special. RIP Paul Walker RIP Nicky Hayden.
The only reason I want them to make another is so they can call it, 'Fast Ten your Seatbelts'
@ what's that?
@ I haven't, but it sounds interesting. I'll have to check it out. It's kind of like Mythbusters?
Ooh and Chris Stuckman said if they don't call the next one FX they don't know what they're doing.
Why not? And then it is just a road safety movie for granny's and grandpas :D
Fast and furious ended on #7 in my opinion. That closing scene saying goodbye to Paul, that shoulda been it. It would have been such an incredible way to end the series while it was still on top. One last "Family" speech by Vin Diesel, the flashbacks to Paul in the previous episodes, the whole theatre audience in tears... That should have been it.
Agreed.
@@Barton_Motors_Ltd and thats also what brought it back, (a) greed. :D
@@Bikaz Yup, very true! They have no desire to leave a legacy, its milk the legacy until there is nothing left. And honestly from a business standpoint, you cannot blame them. But being a fan of the franchise, it sure is sad to see where it has gone since.
The franchise ended with #7 and the rest I did not bother watch.
At this point I'm convinced that they sit in the writing rooms and joke about how much further in lunacy they can push the script
Lieberman’s movie knowledge is actually damn good. And it’s good that he actually spoke about the ridiculousness this Franchise has turned into.
Walked in to F9 telling myself nobody’s gonna die, Jacob will become a good guy, everybody will survive some crazy stunt without a scratch, and Brian will still make an appearance somehow. Shits so predictable it’s awful
i haven’t seen it, but is there a a scene where Dom catches a car with his bare hands?
@@cjr728 Close lol there’s a scene where there’s like 50 dudes pinning him down on a catwalk and he somehow has the strength to get them all off of him and then he rips the catwalk down himself falling like 500 feet and nearly drowning and then has a flashback and wakes up without a scratch on him lmao. They literally trolled the fans the entire movie because Roman kept insisting that they’re all like immortals since they do all this shit and always end up without a scratch
@@SIat Ro was always the brains...
Nailed it. Seems like filmmakers are all about 2 things:
Making money
Special effects
STORY TELLING, the actual PURPOSE of movies, is largely gone.
Actually, I think the two things are: money and MORE money.
Nah, they only care about one thing. Special effects is just a way to get more money.
Asking Universal to return to the original feel of F&F is like asking EA to give us a reboot of Need For Speed Underground. Even when they try, it ends up feeling dull and uninteresting. Those days are long gone.
Can't agree more brother. Still play it when I can lol
You mean asking EA to make a Porsche Unleashed with modern graphics and updated car list (from 2000)
Really there are two sides in the NFS world. The original super cars and police chase crowd and the tuners with unlimited modifications crowd. EA needs to find a way to satisfy both sides. I started playing NFS way back on Windows 98, NFS High Stakes. So I am a fan of both styles of NFS myself.
@@m88lagger I just beat Underground on my PC again the other day for the 100th time since 2003 lol.
I wanna see point-to-point racing in Need For Speed, like it was in the first one by Pioneer Productions
I tapped out when Paul Walker died. I really only ever enjoyed the first three, however.
same for me its to much action fantasy movies now and when Walker died i walked away from TFAF.
RIP Brian.
When the franchise switched from being about the cars and owners, it lost it's identity.
I agree they should've ended the franchise with Furious 7. It was a perfect ending/conclusion to the franchise, the characters & of course Paul Walker.
Should’ve ended after Tokyo Drift. Everything else sucked.
Big facts 👍🏻
Bruh, tokyo was the worst one of them all. 1 and 2 are the real ones and ff4 was just on the edge but was cool
Fast 4 was okay considering the bullshit of the other movies...
and not have made billions of dollars with the following movies and toys and all that? Movies are an industry, money in the end is the main goal for most of it :)
I still think Tokyo Drift and The Fast and the Furious are the two best for me.
As someone who did like those films, I do have to admit, their writing wasn't that great.
@@thomaspanditfan2435 The writing was not the best, but to me, the writing was pretty bad for all of the films. Especially once I began to learn more about cars and actually drive. lol But I guess when you becoming even remotely knowledgeable about anything, it ruins a movie.
@@mr.wiggles7535 not necessarily, Interstellar for example is scientifically as correct as possible (save for the extradimensional stuff maybe), and that's 2 hours of eye candy with a story interspersed. F&F could've done this and probably end up a car cult hit like Initial D, but also never get the funding for literal out-of-this-world action scenes.
The movies are only superficially ruined. When you look deeper in the production process (for example by watching Craig Lieberman), the movies become more enjoyable as the work of a passionate team that used real cars to make a mainstream action movie, not as a story that immerses you with accuracy. It's beyond realism at this point, but it's still packed with cars, action, and self aware humor (Roman is basically Riding Bean now).
Fast 10 Dom takes a charger to space with Richard Branson and they are saving the universe this time from a deadly well you know the thing.
And they race Elon Musk to the moon, $500g buy in.
F9 stole the idea from Richard Branson. I already saw the Branson launch where the rocket doesn't fire until it is carried to the upper atmosphere.
Mad Max: Fury Road is a car chase movie that should be the benchmark for all car chase movies. Despite some superhuman qualities to the protagonists, the movie does not make you cringe at the absurdity of it all.
One thing that always stood out to me (in a sense) was at the end of 2 Fast 2 Furious when Carter Verone says “I’ll see you soon”. It wouldn’t be as big a plot as saving the world but it would certainly go a long way in bringing the franchise back down to earth (literally) in having him break out of prison and kill off a character. I fear that with the way the franchise is now and Universal’s direction of “bigger is better (and more financially viable)” that wouldn’t happen. But it’s certainly an idea or way in which we can bring the franchise back around - I’m unsure how you’d weave the car racing back into it but given we’ve now gone to space in Fast 9, anything is possible
Huge company’s don’t make movies because they have a passion. Only… Money… That’s it
For me, the current "Fast and Furious" movies are just action-fiction movies with the actors from the original movies, I don't go to the cinema and pay to see these movies, I see them on television 1-2 years after, and they are movies I only watch once because they're so ridiculous, while the originals movies I have DVDs and I've seen many times.
Same I've seen the original and the second and Tokyo one dvd I own them on DVD. I decently think they desperately need a reboot especially if there gonna make f10 and f11. Also I hope they somehow bring Brian back even digitally.
We forgetting one thing😎:
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
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🤣🤣🤣
So what are you saying? You're going to go around checking everyone's shit out, one garage after another?
not sure why the bad reviews, but I always feel that tokyo drift is the second best movie in this franchise, right after the first one
I'm just looking forward to fast 33 when the pizza boy is actually Jesse's brother and goes for revenge
I don't understand the hate towards 2 Fast 2 Furious?
That movie was really good and it's my personal favorite.
Even tokyo drift is actually a kick ass movie. Just because Paul and Vin aren't main characters it was hated on. But for what it truly is, its fast 1 tokyo style. But yes fast 2 is awesome I enjoyed watching it just as much as fast 1 and 3
@@jk_46 yeah man the first 3 movies are the best!
Forget about it cuh
21:23 "For those of you that don't follow politics and don't care about WW3 coming, it's not a big deal to you." Man, that subtle delicate satire in this one... nice.
The first 3 movies are my favorite movies of all time. They influenced my life into a HUGE car nerd. I've seen the films countless times; worn out VHS copies, and even 1 DVD. From 4th grade to my mid 30s, I'm at the point of refusing to pay to watch the 9th installment. It's the end of a GREAT era......
Is there actually going to be a 10 and 11?
The series *desperately* needs a reboot and maybe have someone who knows and likes cars at the helm
A bit like the MCU
There is such a massive market for another car culture franchise now. I'm heavily into modified cars and own plenty of 90s JDM cars. I have MANY friends that relive the first few f&f movies up to Tokyo drift which personally I love the most.
Now they are just overdone boring average action movies. Someone out there needs to, literally, bring it back down to earth. Car guys hate what f&f has become.
Yup after Tokyo Drift it was all down hill from there. It's literally not the same franchise anymore 🤦♂️. Tokyo drift had some much potential at the time of release due to "Formula Drift" being huge on TV. They really should of built on that 🤷♂️.
I love the real honest reviews and open talk here about the movies
The cool thing about the first moves is that we could see the cars we really see everyday and afford .We can see it and say wow I see my car in the move tuned up but now you see Tanks Submarine Exotic cars that only the rich can have and that's all good but it's not what made us love the move
Why is reverse cowgirl illegal in Alabama?
Because you can't turn your back on family.🥰
Damn 😂
bruh, you haven’t seen the memes?
As an Alabamian myself I got a pretty good laugh at this.
The 5th was when I said that the franchise was dead. When they chose to skip a street race, I knew it was over. Now the movies are just dumb actionflicks, thats okay, but its not F&F to me
Next thing you know, Gal Godot didn't die, becomes a reveal in the post credit scene in Fast 10, becomes a major player in Fast 11, and will be in an all-girl spin-off.
This franchise should have ended at 7.
that's a good thing with the spin-off film but unfortunately after 7 they can't stopped for some reason they keep continue
Its absolutely unfortunate that Tokyo Drift was the poorest box office performer. It was arguably one of the best ones (imo of course)
100% agree. The original got me into cars and shed light on a lifestyle. I kind of walked away dumbfounded after seeing Fast 9. I don't understand how Universal approved this story. The movie is an insult to everything Fast and the Furious was built on.
Agreed.
Tokyo drift was the last great F&F film
How in the Hell did some street racing punks turn into Special Forces? It has become too Far Fetched!
You are absolutely right about fast 7 being the perfect ending for the series
It died with Paul Walker. Fast 7 was the last ill ever see.
when roman and tej went to space.... i literally turned to my phone instead watching rest of the movie... it was so so so so so dumb.......
Yeah , it was like the director/ producers were taking the piss knowing no matter what stupid shit they make fans are gonna pay money to sit there and watch it ..
FF9 was rubbish but the studio is laughing all the way to the bank.
Mr. Nobody is Jesse's Dad and turns out to be the main villain because he blames Dom for Jesse's death. Cypher dies in Fast 10. Jesse will turn out to be alive in Fast 11 and when Nobody finds out he calls off the war. No dinner scene in Fast 10. Dinner in Fast 11 will include CGI Paul and Dom and the series will end on a last race where Dom wrecked in Fast 1. The train will pass behind them as they drive away from the camera to block the viewer from knowing who won. Fade to black.
.... again, no one remembers Leon ! 🤔
@@michaelb6729 a spin off?
@@michaelb6729 I do and still want to know what happen to him
@@mathomgen9122 he has an illegal Motorex R33 and is on the run from the feds ! 😆
Honestly, I feel like even though 2F and Tokyo Drift were solid (Solid as in I dig both of 'em, I'm not a film critic by any means lmao) the series could've gone in an entirely different direction after the original; "Turbocharged Prelude" could've easily been a full sequel if the writers focused a bit more on the crime drama side of things, like Brian being on the run and some of the racing in the meantime instead of cutting to the chase with 2F. Obviously it's a bit of a pipe dream at this point, but one of my best friends and I were talking about where the series went wrong just a few days ago and I figured I might as well throw out that suggestion, y'know?
I heard that they're going to race the Avengers in the next movie for the mushroom cup in super mario.
I'd like if they would explore the origins of the characters, like what happened before 1st F&F. How did Dom pack-up with the friends he had in F&F1, how did he land in the jail as he mentions it in F&F1 during escape with Brian etc. etc. Just so we could get more realistic story before they becomed killing machines.
They explain a tiny bit on how everyone met in the first one. I do agree that a prologue would be interesting on how they entered the street racing scene and Dom and Letty start dating. Sadly I don't think we are ever going to see that.
The series ended with Tokyo Drift with me. Every other movie afterwards is comedically bad.
I think the only character who has so far actually stayed dead is Giselle, and I think the only reason why is because Gal Gadot took on the role of Wonder Woman. With the Transformers franchise, they killed Optimus Prime
Edit: Fast 9 premiering first in China definitely proves that the franchise isn't going back to street racing because China doesn't have a strong car culture
Fast and furious 12
Dom rides a T-Rex
VS
Undertaker (his other brother) rides a Harley
Screenplay:
Stop light turns green, Both Toretto brothers Floors it.
Undertaker’s bike transform into a spaceship and goes into hyper speed.
Dom double clutches (Don’t ask me how he double clutch the t-Rex but he just does) and wins the race. Sad Music comes on they say goodbye, the movie ends. Until fast and the furious: In Space!
You can’t just leak the screen play like that.
Fast 10 should be a Transformers origin storyline. Dom gets cybernetic implants and becomes Optimus Prime. Autobots, I mean family, roll out!
GI Joe had a transformers cross over at one point soI don’t see why we shouldn’t do the same with Fast and Furious.
@@Jdmking-kp1mu where?
Anything after Tokyo drift just doesn’t exist to me
From mission impossible to mission freaking insanity "Roman Pierce" 🤣🤣
It took 9 movies for me to finally agree with this. God damn this last one was fucking horrible. I'm a huge fan but damn I'm done with that shit.
You nailed it! The franchise ended at 7. The first 3 movies were the best. My favorite being the original.
I personally felt like it should have ended after Tokyo Drift. I completely lost the story everything after that. Cars went from most average people can afford to only high earning price tags. Storyline went from believable to nonse scenarios & cheesy lines. Every movie after Paul Walkers death is just pure greed.
Facts. I miss the old ones not 4 etc the rest aren't the same. Till this day I keep watching the first one over and over again. I think it's way better than the new ones.
@@kingdiamond775 it is. It’s the only one where they showed you can illegally street race but showed to to keep the pediatricians safe. The rest is of the movies is why we have locos in real life driving crazy
I think 5 should have been the one where they finished it because each character was happy like they all made enough money and then they could have retired but then they decided to bring back letty for no reason
Also the reputation of the franchise was still good unlike today where I would say is laughable and the movies are all a mess with lots of plot holes and nonsense. Fast five should have been end.
@@miguelcf2506 6 and 7 were more of a perfect end
Wouldn't have made much sense. Seeing that Tokyo drift was still left to happen. And that leaves a lot more plot holes than ya think
@@thomaspanditfan2435 well they could just made another of those short movies like turbo charged prelude to explain how Han ended up in Tokyo but I still think that after 5 they said "f*ck it" and went complete nuts with the franchise. Still 6 and 7 are not as bad as 8 and 9 which are just a joke but that's just personal preference I guess. Interesting to see other points of view
@@miguelcf2506 for me it ended at 7. Except the car harpooning scene, I don't like anything from 8. If 10 and 11 some freaking how are able to give a good redemption to this franchise, then maybe, just maybe it could top 5 or 7.
Also, killing of someone as important as Giselle in a short film instead of the final battle of an actual movie, feels really cheap. Most probably won't even see it. That's the same thing that happened during the 4th one. Everyone including me kept on asking who are these other people and how the hell does Dom know Han. It was only after I watched Los bandelaros in 2017 I got to know how
Hope to live enough for see F&F v Transformers
The Fast & The Furious franchise is the Call of Duty of the film industry
Call of duty actually makes decent games every now and then
Gta
They also do shit that is completely unrealistic, who the fuck is gonna get away with flying a weaponized military grade chopper in downtown Los Angeles for more than 5 sec without being shot down
The bullshit started with the second movie. Jumping the Camaro on a boat or that ejecting seat on the Challenger?! It was infantile and I was glad that Tokyo Drift was a little more mature again in the cosmos of those movies, but it wouldn't last...
I DID THE REMAKE FOR MY FAMILY LOL
Your "mercenary" comment got me thinking in a whole new way about where this franchise had ended up...simply put (and to date myself a bit in the process):
In 2001, a crack street racing crew was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they almost certainly did commit. This crew promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire...The Family.
If anything, after Walker’s death, they should have dropped the Toretto connection entirely. If they wanted to continue the films, Lucas Black could have been the star. Is he a good actor? No. But an old brick is a better actor than Vin Diesel.
I think its funny that everyone judges Tokyo drift as the worst because it had bad box office. It wasn't because of the no one reacts to see the cars, it was because it's the only one that did not headline Paul or Vin.
I don't. It was the only one worth watching.
@@danieljessop7140 I liked Tokyo Drift also. I was a departure from the usual story line of F&F, plus Han
High jacking trucks and illegal street racing became The Avengers.
And a bit of hancock
great video. about bond movies i can agree. me and my family and family friends also agree your thoughts. 2 of those were hardcore 007 fans. when i showed this video to them they were like that guy is so right.
Nailed it. The first and the third movie I can watch over and over again, but once the team reached international superhero tier, I felt the soul of the movie was just ripped out. I miss the classic street racing focus.
Yeah I completely agree fast four was the last one that was watchable for me because it still contained a lot of car content even if it was absurd and unexplainable I still got to look at cool cars and that was one of the big draws for me to fast and furious getting to see cool cars and catching them saying stupid shit like the famous double clutch comment but now it’s just how can they be more ridiculous than they were before but it’s too ridiculous for me to even be able to shut my brain off too and I smoke a ton of weed
It should go back to its old routes for the final installment. because it started with that.
Fast 9 was the worst movie I've seen in years. A straight up money grab. They need to either make it car focused again or quit making them.
Yeah, want some gritty street racing again. Time to bring it back!
That submarine scene was actually cringe. Even Cinema Sins lost it when ripping that movie apart, the Sin Counter "broke"😂
I like the first 3 movies. IT did annoy me that only a few scenes were street racing, but Tokyo Drift won me over with a guy whose whole mission was not to find who was robbing a bunch of trucks or get an Argentinian drug lord arrested, but to win at drifting. Yes, the Yakuza was there, but the conflict was resolved by drifting, a form of street racing focused on skill rather than who gets to the finish line first. That's what I wanted Fast and Furious to have more of. Since Tokyo Drift, I haven't seen anything newer than that.
I agree 100%. After Tokyo Drift, every movie became unwatchable.
Ehh, I mean 2F is pretty bad apart from the nostalgia/cheese factor. The 4th one was fine, 5 was alright, but then they kinda remade F5 four more times, with new locations and cars. It's like Pokemon.
I enjoyed fast and furious up until Tokyo drift, anything after that I got less and less interested in every movie. Fast 7 was the last one I watched.
Absolutely loved 1 and 3. And I genuinely do not remember much that happened from 4 thru 8 (probably wont watch 9) I remember them being entertaining though.
While I enjoyed the 1st movie, it was still just a rip off of Point Break. They simply substituted tuner cars for surf boards, Semi truck heists for bank robberies and even had the 2 main characters eating tuna fish sandwiches.
Im with you, Craig. And all you kids, losten up: Dominic Toretto is an IMPORT GUY. His father was the Muscle Car guy. NEVER FORGET !
sometimes i think they are self aware and just making the new movies as a troll lmao.
Fair. Internet made jokes about going to space b4 they revealed gays indeed what would be happening
If you've seen Fast 9 it's clear they're self aware about the absurdity, there is a talk there by Roman that shows it xD.
@@Peinfull87 i seen it shortly after making this comment. at least their characters are self aware 😂.
My headcanon: Almost everyone died (including Brian) in the street ambush during Fast 5. The only survivors were Dom and Hobbs but are left severely injured. They were rescued but were left comatose. So the ending of Fast 5, the 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th movie is just a dream from Dom and the Hobbs and Shaw movie is just a dream from Hobbs. This is the main reason why nothing makes sense anymore and they're basically superheroes now. Dom and Hobbs are confined in different hospital rooms so that explains why they rarely get to interact in the movie.
Nah. Jesse is a coma and everything since is a dream of his
I cared for the first 3, after that I never saw another movie of those. Is like they now care to connect special effects rather than what was supposed to be.
I strongly agree with Craig Lieberman and his views on them milking the Fast & Furious franchise.
I used to be a fan of the Fast & Furious films myself mainly because of the cars and street racing, but after Paul Walker died and when the 7th film came out, I got very disillusioned and disinterested with the franchise because of the fact that they’re bringing out more films and they all became too far fetched. They weren’t about street racing and car culture anymore just about generic, boring Mission Impossible/Avengers sh*t with silly, daft and unconvincing action and stunts.
I have been saying this a million times - They should've stopped after the 7th film and not make anymore as _Fast & Furious 7_ in my eyes was the fitting end to it the franchise.
Finally I would love to give a standing ovation to Craig Lieberman himself for his work on the first 2 Fast & Furious films especially the original which is one of my all time favourite films 👏
For me the franchise died with Paul Walker...I'm sorry but it just isn't the same without Brian. Love the rest of the cast, Vin is great, Michelle has came a long way in acting, Jordana is amazing, Ludacris is always funny, Loved seeing Jason Statgam and The Rock come in too. But the movies don't feel the the first six movies anymore, hell the first 3 are the only ones that really makes sense as tuner movies - it's still a great trilogy to me. The newer movies are great, but they're not the same movies as the first three in my eyes - the franchise went too far away from it's roots.
For me, even the action scenes capped at Fast Five. Destroying sh*t with a heavy safe was so much fun to watch, even if there's no way two dodge chargers could even budge that thing. :p
In F10 Ben Affleck's batman and Samuel Jackson's Nick fury appears at Dom's house inviting the team to join the JL and the Avengers. Dom rejects them telling they are FAMILY... THE FAMILY LEAGUE
lol that is gold.
Gives a whole new meaning to the term 'milking'.
Disneys Cars has more to do with fast n furious at this point...
well, I don't mind Universal making more of this franchise, AS LONG AS THEY STOP CALLING IT FAST & FURIOUS!!!!
I totally agree I feel like 1st, 2, 3 and 4 movies were the best, after f5 I wasn't to much interested any more since it had nothing to do with street racing, but they were still I guess ok movies, but when paul died, the movie were not the same with out him, fast and furious is nothing with out the buster
Fast and the Furious 10
They use cars that can drive under water, and they discover the lost city Atlantis.
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@@theflorgeormix FAST 9 SPOILERS COMING UP :
Roman and Tej already did lol...!
@@theflorgeormix
That’s pretty damn dumb because they already freakin did that in the 9th damn movie.
I don’t understand why they couldn’t have just stayed true to street racing.. the super hero crap killed the franchise. They were normal people before that.
Fuck heists, gimme street racing.
Seriously they need to stop!! The sequels NO longer make any sense..... 🤦♂️🤦♂️ It's gone on for far too long at this point. 😑😔😒 But Hollywood loves money so we all know they'll never stop.....😒🤦♂️🧐🙄
Hollywood has always been all about the money.
I've watched all the F&F movies, but they should have stopped after #3.
They could have continued with the franchise, but it should have been rebranded.
Pretty sure if they stopped after 3 literally no one would ever remember the franchise. Plus 3 is one of the badder onss
2 did bad because Vin Diesel was gone. 3 did bad because it looked, at the surface, like a cheap spinoff without Paul Walker or Vin Diesel. 4 did better because it brought them back. My opinion. After that we got a generation of people who are incredibly dumbed down and need loud noises to keep their attention.
I 100% agree with you, I miss old times .. old street car movies. I watch fast 1 and 2 several times over and over again
and tokyo drift bro
I have to agree, I actually stopped after 2 fast 2 furious, and caught the rest of the series on Blu Ray when I had nothing to do for the day. The DNA of FF was street racing. Now with its bigger budget, it starting to feel like Dom has morphed into his alter ego Xander from XXX but added his friends to save the world with his friends with a compliment of fast cars now.