I never answer my door and my curtains are always closed. If I'm in the garden when one of their salesmen calls I will just go indoors without giving him/her any details. I don't watch tv anyway but I refuse to be answerable to that vile organisation.
I agree with what you say but I wouldn't change my planned activities because of some protection racket type thug enters your premises uninvited. Tell him/her that you are removing their assumed right of entry to your property which means from that point onwards they're trespassing and instruct them to leave.
Cancelled my TV licence on line a couple of years ago, and received a prompt refund. No longer have a TV. I have all I want on my computer: TH-cam or DVDs. I must just say that it has greatly improved my sense of wellbeing. I no longer have to keep stabbing the remote to get rid of the mind-numbing, soul-destroying adverts every 10 minutes, or waste time searching the multitude of channels - in vain - trying to find anything remotely watchable.....Best thing I've done in years!
Best thing I ever did was stop watching TV and delete Facebook. I find my mind in a much more peaceful place now and not burdened with other peoples sh1t.
Company possibly pays? doubtful though because scum bags heh If that is his job just driving around delivering sheets of paper then I can't knock the hustle really as they will no doubt be paying petrol money on top of the wage, easiest job in the world heh. Surprised no one has actually got one of these jobs yet to inform people of their rights with this bs BBC tax and not needing to pay it if they are not watching live tv, Now that would make for interesting viewing watching people beat the system from inside it. Anyone who wants to steal this idea please feel free to do so :D
the royal mail are now charging companies for returned letters...so let us all return unopened letters to return to sender.imagine if we all did that.a nice unwanted bill to the BBC.
Had similar from Group 4. Took a photo of me door & everything. The money they must have spent over the years, would have been cheaper just to buy me a tele licence.
That's interesting, he made no attempt to ring the doorbell or speak to you, and yet he left a letter to say he'd called when you were out. It's as if he gave up without even trying.
He did sit in his car for a good thirty seconds before getting out. I wonder if he'd seen the cameras and decided not to bother. The address, date and officer number were written in black ink and the time was in blue. I suspect the address etc was filled in prio to the visit and the time added on arrival. I would say it's just a tact to frighten us into doing something.
An extremely valid point but very wide of the mark that the warning notices they're delivering by hand doesn't need permission from the Royal Mail, nether do those who drop pizza menus, grocery stores advertising or any other literature where hand delivery is a lot cheaper then using a postal service. We are slowly progressing to the point where even the Royal Mail is being paid to deliver junk items.
@@paulnicoll7431if it's sent via Royal Mail then yes, but if the letter is delivered by hand then no, and the reason for this is to make it look as if an actual enforcement officer has visited your home, not found you in, so posted a reminder through your letterbox!
DARtrader should let the man know that he has been filming him on both the creators private property and in public areas. I’m sure that the creator follows the rules very carefully and fully understands that he is not meant to post surveillance footage on social media. 😇
I can understand him leaving a "Called but you were out" letter, as I expect he probably doesn't get many, if any, people that will waste their time on him.
In the United States, if ANYBODY but the homeowner or the U.S. Postal Service puts ANYTHING in or takes ANYTHING out or touches a mailbox, that is a federal crime.
They came around after we sent back license indicating we dont need one. Young chap turns up in high-vis and clip board. Well he saw the CCTV, stopped, walked around a bit at the start of drive and then decided he wouldnt visit us. Router blocks bbc and iplayer just dont watch any of it
I stopped buying a licence about 5 or 6 years ago, must be close to a £1000 Iv'e saved by now. It was my protest for all the biased views they were pushing on me, I don't watch live TV anyhow. Have never had a visit in that time! maybe It's because I go to the BBC website and tell them I don't need a licence. If they should ever turn up at my door, it would be a waist of their time. I would just say, I don't need a licence and close the door. Probably best to have a chain hooked up before opening front doors these days.
I get a letter every month, so far 27 letters. I enjoy the fact that every letter they send costs them money. If there are hundreds of thousand of people not buying licences then this helps bleed them of cash.
I've been at the same address for 19 years, never had a tv licence, only ever get the normal 2 monthly royal mail letter and only ever had 1 hand delivered one
My father in law started getting these letters one month after he went into a dementia care home and the wife cancelled his license. Within three months he'd had a second warning him that "Theirs Lewes office is opening an investigation". Bring it on...
@@DARTraderMediaProductions In content, certainly although I must admit to a certain gory curiosity in their actual variety given that I come from a marketing background as to the language and visual tricks they use on each one. So patently manipulative its laughable.
I wouldn't do that. It shows there's someone at the house seeing/receiving their mail. Better to have absolutely no contact with them at all. Be a ghost.
I do that with every one of them, Return to Sender, with an appropriate comment on the state of the BBC. Huw Edwards is the latest gift from the BBC, that just keeps on giving.
@@grahamcook9289 They'll keep targeting you and you'll more than likely be visited now. You've established contact. They're fishing and you've taken the bait. They know your address is 'live' and that you are reading their correspondence. That's exactly what they want and why they do it. The best course of action is no communication, no contact.
That special delivery is no difference to a royal mail post man. Just put the letter in the bin. You don't need to pay the legalised gangster bbc corporation.
'RETURN TO SENDER' notice I attach to these time wasters: The law on ‘Stalking’ recently achieved a serious widening of scope. A widening which resulted in a man called Alex Belfield, being incarcerated for FIVE YEARS. "One of the many successful complaints brought against him, was for ‘Stalking a Radio Station’. it seems fairly likely to me, that YOU and your unsolicited endeavours are on VERY thin ice here. I have NO CONTRACT, nor commitment to you - whoever you are. You appear to live in Darlington and despite numerous returns of junk-mail, sent to me by you (or some other party with too much time on their hands, living in Darlington) you persist in being a nuisance. Perhaps some time spent in a cell next to the unfortunate Mr. Belfield is what it takes to allow the futility of your ‘Stalking’ to become apparent? I sincerely hope not. "
So the licence was for The BBC how have they expanded it to any live broadcast ? I don't understand this as ITV has adverts thus it is paid for via adverts. If you pay for prime you are paying for a private broadcast nothing to do with The BBC. Sohow can they say you should pay a licence for BBC if you do not watch it and what has live broadcast got to do with it it could be your own live broadcast. I don't watch TV but my Mother does as we share the house but again she is a pensioner and all of a sudden after saying she no longer needed to pay a licence they changed it. Also MPs don't pay licence fee. I would love to see The BBC go bankrupt its such a lying piece of crap propaganda evil broadcasting company.
Its crazy they have managed to get away with it for so long, I agree the licence should just cover the BBC content. You can watch live streams as long as they are not by a main broadcaster, we often watch a live stream on TH-cam as long as it’s not by Sky news, BBC or and other broadcaster for example. If your mother doesn’t watch or record live TV and isn’t using iplayer a licence is not required. We use Netflix, Prime, Discovery+ and the catch-up services for anything that was broadcast except iplayer as this would need a licence. To be honest there really isn’t much broadcast TV worth watching these days, too many repeats the last time I looked. There’s only the BBC stuff anyone would be unable to watch if they went licence free and that’s just fine with us. The BBC would like to see the licence fee added to the council tax or broadband bill when the charter expires in 2027 so we all have to pay, watch or not. As it is at the moment we do have a choice, hopefully the BBC will go commercial and show adverts. I can’t see a subscription method working for them as the content just isn’t good enough.
As an ex Meter reader this is exactly why I left a job that I loved for many years. Please understand Meter readers hate having to do this and have empathy with customers after all we’re all in the same boat but we are forced by our employers and threatened with the sack if we refuse. I developed a system similar to the guy in the video (which is actually what we were instructed to do by our employer) to reduce the chances of being confronted by the customer which involved parking a bit away from the property and inserting the card as quickly and efficiently as possible so as to not alert them to our presence however often this didn’t work due to having to walk by a window or being seen/heard by an alert pet dog. I also had to post threatening bill demands on behalf of a number of well known energy providers in the middle of the Covid shutdown many of which were unemployed and struggling single parents which was in my view - inhumane. Like many large faceless employers LB doesn’t give a toss about it’s employees. It is all about making money for them.
not had one for years,they sent me letters saying they were coming more than 3 i would say to my old address,feckers never turned up.i lived in a small village we knew every car and person in the place,so they would not have been missed. you could fart in this place and next door would say what smell it was lol
You MUST let them keep visiting. More than 3 times becomes continuous illegal and unlawful harassment. Then you phone the number on the letter and inform the registered company that you have NO contract with, that - "the next time you send one of your minions to my door I will arrest him/her for the above reasons". They will say "and how will you do this" - you respond with - lawfully. That you will contact the (useless) police to have them legally removed and will press charges for the above. You then inform them that any further letters will be returned to them via your solicitor with all appropriate fees. You also point out that - buying or paying for a tv license is committing and supporting the act of Treason under the 1848 Treason and Felony Act. Then promptly hang up. Be calm and assertive. Do not swear. I did this in 2008. Not paid since, no letters, no more visits. Have fun 👍
@@DARTraderMediaProductions I swear blind and would gladly do so on oath that the above information given is exactly what I did. I've had/heard nothing from them since and have never supported treason by buying the BBC's peodophile protection license.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions As soon as I informed the minion who I spoke to on the phone that my solicitor's bill would cost them 1000's and that their representative at my door would be arrested LAWFULLY (remember LAWFULLY) the man shut up completely.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions And (sorry to be a pain) 1848 ! There were no TV's in 1848 but it comes under that years treason and Felony act due to how the corrupt bbc gets its funding.
Phone them up and ask what time they are coming! State that if he says they won’t be coming on that date then you can report to the ICO for sending out false letters!
The meter readers who work for Lowri Beck are mainly temps or self employed doing Capita TV licence work for extra money. Considering enforcement officers only get a base expense and they have to sell a license to actually earn any money from commission it means long hours for little reward hence why enforcement officers ignore the guidelines and turn to finding ways of entrapment. Like any sales company like selling double glazing you have to reach a monthly target to keep your job, the company can't afford to give you a monthly expense without a return. It would be nice to see how many hand deliveries need to be made to earn just £1 and if there is extra money for every response to a hand delivery?
I worked for lowri beck for a few years and they were actually a really good company to work for, when it was just meter reading. The guy in the video has no choice in delivering this letter as it is a new addition to the job that was added just before I left the firm. I was furious when they started trying to get me to do the BBC’s job when I was meter reading as I detest them and we weren’t given a choice if you wanted to keep your job. And also to those snidely commenting about business insurance on his car, you can’t work for lowri beck unless you have business insurance
Simply answer the door. Hello can i help you Hello im from TV Licensing No thank you i do not require one goodbye and close tne door. Thats it say nothing more and close the door and do it politely.
In or not it's not going to change anything, the're getting nothing. I've had a few with dates on and they have never turned up and if they did it would be no thanks and close the door. Many thanks.
I got one for 10th August also, ha ha, had many other threats like this. They never turn up, they can fuck right off, I wouldn't watch that shite even if They paid ME.
Good point. I guess just to be polite really. I'd much rather tell them to f@ck off but that might just cause more of a problem. My first reply will be "no thanks" if they don't leave at that point then they will be told to f@ck off and don't return. 😁
@@DARTraderMediaProductions You don't need to say anything. Just remain totally silent, until they leave in a sulk. Takes about a minute 🙂 th-cam.com/video/ntSAs8yD9rc/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUkZXhlcmNpc2luZyBteSByaWdodCB0byByZW1haW4gc2lsZW50
I cancelled mine a few year's ago, I did it officially on line and even got a refund from Crapita however the letters started coming the following month, when the two years of letter free (or one every couple of months) was up I did nothing, never contacted them to let them know I still did not need a licence, still get the letters I file them away safely, in the shredder.
I have never had a TV Licence for more years than I can remember. If they come to the door and you answer never say who you are and make them identify they will also ask you to confirm your address by asking is this 333 stick it where the sun don't shine street (example street) again ignore and ask for ID and when they say TV Licence simply walk back in and close the door. They are door to door salesmen/women with Zero power and do not fill in the online form. If you do click NO on everything or you will fail and need a Licence as they purposely missed out the word LIVE. Just ignore everything to do with them. Easy explanation is thus, you do not contact your Dr to tell them you do not have Clamida and do not need Antibiotics. You do not email Asda and tell them you do not need to shop there this week so why would you tell the BBC you do not need a Licence ?
I threatened to have them prosecuted, and they took me off their list. The amusing thing is I detest that brain washing machine, will not have one in the house, and walk out of places that have one on.
I appreciate it's not for everyone but unfortunately due to a medical condition it was my best option. I thought if it made my life easier then it was worth trying otherwise the time it would take me to produce the video would have been frustrating. Many thanks for your comment, sorry if it's not for you.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions The meter readers already have a hard time from me, as I don't allow shoes on my expensive wool and silk carpets. None of them come in any more.
That's so true but I think their idea is to put fear in some people in to thinking they've had a visit. It's about a year since I got that letter and since then I've just had a monthly repeat of all the other letters. It does'nt bother me and should'nt bother anyone else as there's nothing to fear, if they stop sending the letters I'd feel left out. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
TV licencing use them to deliver some of their letters and pass it off as a visit. In some parts of the country they also use them to spy on people when they call to read meters in properties with indoor meters.
Just operate a black hole policy now. If they turn up I'll play with them, eg, tell them to wait over the intercom and see how long I can make them stand there. Or of I answer close the door without acknowledging them. I'll then send the footage to TH-cam channels for a laugh. They are scammers and use intimidation, but don't like it turned back on them.
I don’t think £159 a year is very good value considering what you get for it and who gets the money. The BBC daily schedule consists of just too many repeats for one thing and what isn’t a repeat I would not wish to watch anyway. I also think the days of broadcast TV are nearing an end and few really want to have to watch to a schedule these days or record their favourite programs. The only live broadcast programs in the future will be news and sport events and these will be streamed, no dish or aerial. I pay for what I want to watch and I watch it when I want to watch it, we have a choice and I choose not to support the BBC. You think £159 a year good value and you are entitled to that opinion and if you’re happy to pay and enjoy what you get for the money then that’s fine. We can still watch around 90% of TV using the catch-up services except any BBC content so missing nothing really and can watch it when we want without parting with £159. Many thanks.
Do you know that you are not allowed to monitor people on the street and other public areas with your security cameras ? Your cameras viewing angles should be limited to your own property only.
That’s simply not true. You can film beyond the edge of your property. It’s impossible to not film beyond when using a Ring door bell due to its design lack of adjustment. All my neighbours are aware of the cameras and happy they are there. If we are not allowed to film as you suggest then the Ring doorbell company would be finished. The GDPR and Data Protection Act 2018 does not apply to personal or household activity.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions I don’t think you’re fully aware of your responsibilities.. See HM Government gov.uk “If your CCTV system captures images of people outside the boundary of your private domestic property - for example, from neighbours’ homes or gardens, shared spaces, or from public areas - then the GDPR and the DPA will apply to you. You will need to ensure your use of CCTV complies with these laws. If you do not comply with your data protection obligations you may be subject to appropriate regulatory action by the ICO, as well as potential legal action by affected individuals.”……”putting up a notice informing people that recording is taking place”…..”you should make sure that the information recorded is used only for the purpose for which your system was installed (for example it will not be appropriate to share any recordings on social media sites)”….. “you will need to be aware of individuals’ data protection rights and make sure you take steps to allow the people you record to exercise these rights effectively (for example, you will need to respond appropriately to any subject access requests you receive from the people you record)”.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions Ring door bell company should also be able to refer you to regulations and will probably offer you ‘off-property’ filtering applications.
I never answer my door and my curtains are always closed. If I'm in the garden when one of their salesmen calls I will just go indoors without giving him/her any details. I don't watch tv anyway but I refuse to be answerable to that vile organisation.
Well said, many thanks.
I have a sticker at my window stating that " I don't watch live TV, I only watch Chilli Jon Carne" on TH-cam. No licence required thank you.
@@independentvoice6686 You can't beat a bit of Chilli Jon. 😁
Hey if everyone thought like you the BBC wouldn't be able pay people like Huw Edwards and Gary linekar millions in salaries , why are you so selfish ?
I agree with what you say but I wouldn't change my planned activities because of some protection racket type thug enters your premises uninvited.
Tell him/her that you are removing their assumed right of entry to your property which means from that point onwards they're trespassing and instruct them to leave.
Cancelled my TV licence on line a couple of years ago, and received a prompt refund. No longer have a TV. I have all I want on my computer: TH-cam or DVDs. I must just say that it has greatly improved my sense of wellbeing. I no longer have to keep stabbing the remote to get rid of the mind-numbing, soul-destroying adverts every 10 minutes, or waste time searching the multitude of channels - in vain - trying to find anything remotely watchable.....Best thing I've done in years!
Best thing I ever did was stop watching TV and delete Facebook. I find my mind in a much more peaceful place now and not burdened with other peoples sh1t.
I wonder if he pays business insurance on his car?
Company possibly pays? doubtful though because scum bags heh
If that is his job just driving around delivering sheets of paper then I can't knock the hustle really as they will no doubt be paying petrol money on top of the wage, easiest job in the world heh.
Surprised no one has actually got one of these jobs yet to inform people of their rights with this bs BBC tax and not needing to pay it if they are not watching live tv, Now that would make for interesting viewing watching people beat the system from inside it.
Anyone who wants to steal this idea please feel free to do so :D
i've put the same, i bet he hasn't
Can't cancel my TV TAX LICENSE, NEVER HAD ONE !
the royal mail are now charging companies for returned letters...so let us all return unopened letters to return to sender.imagine if we all did that.a nice unwanted bill to the BBC.
Wouldn't advise that, that gives Capita evidence of potential evasion.
Why
Put a brick in brown paper and tape the return to sender envelope on the top, this way it increases the return postage costs for them.
@@jamesm875I used to include all of the other junk mail in it when I returned it(without a stamp).
They are just bullies..ignor them
Oh yes, best thing to do. My son has done this for years now and they just don't bother with him at all now. Many thanks.
This month 10 years licence free. Them letters straight in the aga.😂
Had similar from Group 4. Took a photo of me door & everything. The money they must have spent over the years, would have been cheaper just to buy me a tele licence.
I caught the guy who reads my gas and electricity meters posting a letter from the TV licence 😂
ive been getting them as well i have no intention of ever paying for that thing again i hate BBC
It was the first one I've had delivered in that way, I think they just try to make you think a knock on visit is due. Ignore best policy, many thanks.
That's interesting, he made no attempt to ring the doorbell or speak to you, and yet he left a letter to say he'd called when you were out. It's as if he gave up without even trying.
He did sit in his car for a good thirty seconds before getting out. I wonder if he'd seen the cameras and decided not to bother. The address, date and officer number were written in black ink and the time was in blue. I suspect the address etc was filled in prio to the visit and the time added on arrival. I would say it's just a tact to frighten us into doing something.
I wonder if he's notified his insurance company that he is using his car for business purposes
Before long BBC will have so many people cancelling their licence it wont be worthwhile sending anybody round !
It's illegal for an individual to deliver Royal Mail. Endorsed mail unless they have a license
An extremely valid point but very wide of the mark that the warning notices they're delivering by hand doesn't need permission from the Royal Mail, nether do those who drop pizza menus, grocery stores advertising or any other literature where hand delivery is a lot cheaper then using a postal service.
We are slowly progressing to the point where even the Royal Mail is being paid to deliver junk items.
@@Broomfondle1 when the letter is endorsed by royal mail and states " delivered by royal mail" and it's out through the door at 7.00 pm it's illegal
@@paulnicoll7431if it's sent via Royal Mail then yes, but if the letter is delivered by hand then no, and the reason for this is to make it look as if an actual enforcement officer has visited your home, not found you in, so posted a reminder through your letterbox!
Someone will know this person who is willing to drive around in their own car and deliver these letters.
Let them know that you know 😏
I wonder if his car insurance covers him for non personal use of the vehicle 🤔 most insurance doesn't and has to be specifically requested
@@rubusroo68 👊
DARtrader should let the man know that he has been filming him on both the creators private property and in public areas. I’m sure that the creator follows the rules very carefully and fully understands that he is not meant to post surveillance footage on social media. 😇
Has anyone ever charged Crapita for waiting at home on the date of the letter?
Good point
Haven't had one for years, I refuse to fund liers and pee dough files
I can understand him leaving a "Called but you were out" letter, as I expect he probably doesn't get many, if any, people that will waste their time on him.
In the United States, if ANYBODY but the homeowner or the U.S. Postal Service puts ANYTHING in or takes ANYTHING out or touches a mailbox, that is a federal crime.
They came around after we sent back license indicating we dont need one. Young chap turns up in high-vis and clip board. Well he saw the CCTV, stopped, walked around a bit at the start of drive and then decided he wouldnt visit us. Router blocks bbc and iplayer just dont watch any of it
He did spot the camera on the door as he approached, maybe it will deter them a little. Many thanks.
TV Licence: Will you be in on 3rd August?
Me: not now as I have just planed not to be :p
What a nasty corporation.
I stopped buying a licence about 5 or 6 years ago, must be close to a £1000 Iv'e saved by now. It was my protest for all the biased views they were pushing on me, I don't watch live TV anyhow. Have never had a visit in that time! maybe It's because I go to the BBC website and tell them I don't need a licence.
If they should ever turn up at my door, it would be a waist of their time. I would just say, I don't need a licence and close the door. Probably best to have a chain hooked up before opening front doors these days.
I get a letter every month, so far 27 letters. I enjoy the fact that every letter they send costs them money. If there are hundreds of thousand of people not buying licences then this helps bleed them of cash.
I've been at the same address for 19 years, never had a tv licence, only ever get the normal 2 monthly royal mail letter and only ever had 1 hand delivered one
My father in law started getting these letters one month after he went into a dementia care home and the wife cancelled his license. Within three months he'd had a second warning him that "Theirs Lewes office is opening an investigation". Bring it on...
Ignore them, if they come knocking just tell them no thanks and close door. Investigation over at that point. Many thanks.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions They can knock as much as they like there's nobody there and the flat is on the market.😂
Good video , i haven't paid for a licence for 3 years now and i don't regret it.
I got the the 3rd of August one straight in the bin .
Best place for it, there's really no point in even opening them as they are all the same. Many thanks.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions In content, certainly although I must admit to a certain gory curiosity in their actual variety given that I come from a marketing background as to the language and visual tricks they use on each one. So patently manipulative its laughable.
@@deanwatson4721 I think we open them just to see if it's anything new, well I do anyway. 🤣
I've got a stack load of them. I save them then every couple of years I send them back with unwanted junk mail return to sender written on them
I'll do the same at some point, either that or they will end up in my neighbours wood burner. Many thanks.
I wouldn't do that. It shows there's someone at the house seeing/receiving their mail. Better to have absolutely no contact with them at all. Be a ghost.
I do that with every one of them, Return to Sender, with an appropriate comment on the state of the BBC. Huw Edwards is the latest gift from the BBC, that just keeps on giving.
@@grahamcook9289 They'll keep targeting you and you'll more than likely be visited now. You've established contact. They're fishing and you've taken the bait. They know your address is 'live' and that you are reading their correspondence. That's exactly what they want and why they do it. The best course of action is no communication, no contact.
That's reacting. Don't. Your house should be a blackhole for them, anything that goes in, never goes out.
Scummy tactics! How low can they go? What depths can they plunge too?
Any letters received from the goons,attach said letter to an old phone book or the like and return to sender 👍
That special delivery is no difference to a royal mail post man. Just put the letter in the bin. You don't need to pay the legalised gangster bbc corporation.
'RETURN TO SENDER' notice I attach to these time wasters:
The law on ‘Stalking’ recently achieved a serious widening of scope. A widening which resulted in a man called Alex Belfield, being incarcerated for FIVE YEARS.
"One of the many successful complaints brought against him, was for ‘Stalking a Radio Station’. it seems fairly likely to me, that YOU and your unsolicited endeavours are on VERY thin ice here.
I have NO CONTRACT, nor commitment to you - whoever you are. You appear to live in Darlington and despite numerous returns of junk-mail, sent to me by you (or some other party with too much time on their hands, living in Darlington) you persist in being a nuisance.
Perhaps some time spent in a cell next to the unfortunate Mr. Belfield is what it takes to allow the futility of your ‘Stalking’ to become apparent?
I sincerely hope not.
"
Charge them rental for having the BBC Chanel in your TV without your permission
🤣🤣🤣🤣 When we went licence free I bought a new smart TV, uninstalled iplayer and the TV has never had an aerial up it so never tuned. Many thanks.
Probably part time on just stop oils payrole too.
I stack them up and RETURN TO SENDER EVERY XMAS
Trying to scare you that "we've been to your house" so it's getting serious!
I figured that was the purpose, it does'nt bother me I'll continue to ignore them like I've done for the last four years. Many thanks.
So the licence was for The BBC how have they expanded it to any live broadcast ? I don't understand this as ITV has adverts thus it is paid for via adverts. If you pay for prime you are paying for a private broadcast nothing to do with The BBC. Sohow can they say you should pay a licence for BBC if you do not watch it and what has live broadcast got to do with it it could be your own live broadcast. I don't watch TV but my Mother does as we share the house but again she is a pensioner and all of a sudden after saying she no longer needed to pay a licence they changed it. Also MPs don't pay licence fee. I would love to see The BBC go bankrupt its such a lying piece of crap propaganda evil broadcasting company.
Its crazy they have managed to get away with it for so long, I agree the licence should just cover the BBC content. You can watch live streams as long as they are not by a main broadcaster, we often watch a live stream on TH-cam as long as it’s not by Sky news, BBC or and other broadcaster for example. If your mother doesn’t watch or record live TV and isn’t using iplayer a licence is not required. We use Netflix, Prime, Discovery+ and the catch-up services for anything that was broadcast except iplayer as this would need a licence. To be honest there really isn’t much broadcast TV worth watching these days, too many repeats the last time I looked. There’s only the BBC stuff anyone would be unable to watch if they went licence free and that’s just fine with us. The BBC would like to see the licence fee added to the council tax or broadband bill when the charter expires in 2027 so we all have to pay, watch or not. As it is at the moment we do have a choice, hopefully the BBC will go commercial and show adverts. I can’t see a subscription method working for them as the content just isn’t good enough.
Thank you for explaining :)@@DARTraderMediaProductions
You're most welcome and many thanks.@@alphatoomegabeyondthematri5166
As an ex Meter reader this is exactly why I left a job that I loved for many years. Please understand Meter readers hate having to do this and have empathy with customers after all we’re all in the same boat but we are forced by our employers and threatened with the sack if we refuse.
I developed a system similar to the guy in the video (which is actually what we were instructed to do by our employer) to reduce the chances of being confronted by the customer which involved parking a bit away from the property and inserting the card as quickly and efficiently as possible so as to not alert them to our presence however often this didn’t work due to having to walk by a window or being seen/heard by an alert pet dog.
I also had to post threatening bill demands on behalf of a number of well known energy providers in the middle of the Covid shutdown many of which were unemployed and struggling single parents which was in my view - inhumane.
Like many large faceless employers LB doesn’t give a toss about it’s employees. It is all about making money for them.
Is that his own car?
Does he have business insurance for that car as this is him working and not for pleasure.
not had one for years,they sent me letters saying they were coming more than 3 i would say to my old address,feckers never turned up.i lived in a small village we knew every car and person in the place,so they would not have been missed.
you could fart in this place and next door would say what smell it was lol
I live next door to you and I am fed up with all your farting and smell. Pack it in.
You MUST let them keep visiting. More than 3 times becomes continuous illegal and unlawful harassment. Then you phone the number on the letter and inform the registered company that you have NO contract with, that - "the next time you send one of your minions to my door I will arrest him/her for the above reasons". They will say "and how will you do this" - you respond with - lawfully. That you will contact the (useless) police to have them legally removed and will press charges for the above.
You then inform them that any further letters will be returned to them via your solicitor with all appropriate fees.
You also point out that - buying or paying for a tv license is committing and supporting the act of Treason under the 1848 Treason and Felony Act. Then promptly hang up.
Be calm and assertive. Do not swear.
I did this in 2008. Not paid since, no letters, no more visits. Have fun 👍
That is interesting, I'll have to have a think about that, many thanks.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions I swear blind and would gladly do so on oath that the above information given is exactly what I did. I've had/heard nothing from them since and have never supported treason by buying the BBC's peodophile protection license.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions As soon as I informed the minion who I spoke to on the phone that my solicitor's bill would cost them 1000's and that their representative at my door would be arrested LAWFULLY (remember LAWFULLY) the man shut up completely.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions And (sorry to be a pain) 1848 ! There were no TV's in 1848 but it comes under that years treason and Felony act due to how the corrupt bbc gets its funding.
Phone them up and ask what time they are coming! State that if he says they won’t be coming on that date then you can report to the ICO for sending out false letters!
Tell them you will be In. And when that date come round you go out and let them have a waste of time.its tough shit.😊😊😊
The meter readers who work for Lowri Beck are mainly temps or self employed doing Capita TV licence work for extra money. Considering enforcement officers only get a base expense and they have to sell a license to actually earn any money from commission it means long hours for little reward hence why enforcement officers ignore the guidelines and turn to finding ways of entrapment.
Like any sales company like selling double glazing you have to reach a monthly target to keep your job, the company can't afford to give you a monthly expense without a return.
It would be nice to see how many hand deliveries need to be made to earn just £1 and if there is extra money for every response to a hand delivery?
Just ignore them--never speak to them -close the door if opened--say nothing.--its worked for me 59yrs.
I worked for lowri beck for a few years and they were actually a really good company to work for, when it was just meter reading. The guy in the video has no choice in delivering this letter as it is a new addition to the job that was added just before I left the firm. I was furious when they started trying to get me to do the BBC’s job when I was meter reading as I detest them and we weren’t given a choice if you wanted to keep your job. And also to those snidely commenting about business insurance on his car, you can’t work for lowri beck unless you have business insurance
Wonder what all these letters and enforcement officers cost the BBC. More than they are trying to recover???.
🤣🤣 They would'nt care, they are using licence payers money to pay for it.
I got exactly the same threatening letter on the 1/12/2023 ,didn’t knock on the door just posted it and went, all recorded on my doorbell camera
Any meter readers calling, I simply tell them that my smart meters are read automatically. Bye bye.
Sue him for trespass
Not a crime. You'd have to tell him to leave first
If i see them coming i will hold the letter box down so the cant post crap through
Simply answer the door.
Hello can i help you
Hello im from TV Licensing
No thank you i do not require one goodbye and close tne door.
Thats it say nothing more and close the door and do it politely.
I open the door, stare into the middle distance for a few seconds, say "No engagement" then close the door.
Am I going to be in on August 10th? I don't think so!
In or not it's not going to change anything, the're getting nothing. I've had a few with dates on and they have never turned up and if they did it would be no thanks and close the door. Many thanks.
I got one for 10th August also, ha ha, had many other threats like this. They never turn up, they can fuck right off, I wouldn't watch that shite even if They paid ME.
I’d like to know where you could find the official numbers of TV license cancellations for 2020, 2021, 2022.
Can anyone direct me to these numbers?
Why even say "no thank you"?
Good point. I guess just to be polite really. I'd much rather tell them to f@ck off but that might just cause more of a problem. My first reply will be "no thanks" if they don't leave at that point then they will be told to f@ck off and don't return. 😁
@@DARTraderMediaProductions You don't need to say anything. Just remain totally silent, until they leave in a sulk.
Takes about a minute 🙂
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I cancelled mine a few year's ago, I did it officially on line and even got a refund from Crapita however the letters started coming the following month, when the two years of letter free (or one every couple of months) was up I did nothing, never contacted them to let them know I still did not need a licence, still get the letters I file them away safely, in the shredder.
I have never had a TV Licence for more years than I can remember. If they come to the door and you answer never say who you are and make them identify they will also ask you to confirm your address by asking is this 333 stick it where the sun don't shine street (example street) again ignore and ask for ID and when they say TV Licence simply walk back in and close the door. They are door to door salesmen/women with Zero power and do not fill in the online form. If you do click NO on everything or you will fail and need a Licence as they purposely missed out the word LIVE. Just ignore everything to do with them. Easy explanation is thus, you do not contact your Dr to tell them you do not have Clamida and do not need Antibiotics. You do not email Asda and tell them you do not need to shop there this week so why would you tell the BBC you do not need a Licence ?
Exactly, just get on with life and forget all about it. Hopefully one day they might get the message and stop sending their monthly letter(s).
I threatened to have them prosecuted, and they took me off their list. The amusing thing is I detest that brain washing machine, will not have one in the house, and walk out of places that have one on.
Go away work's as well 🎉
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I appreciate it's not for everyone but unfortunately due to a medical condition it was my best option. I thought if it made my life easier then it was worth trying otherwise the time it would take me to produce the video would have been frustrating. Many thanks for your comment, sorry if it's not for you.
Are meter readers spying while in your house ?
Yes, in some parts of the country they are doing just that. Many thanks.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions The meter readers already have a hard time from me, as I don't allow shoes on my expensive wool and silk carpets. None of them come in any more.
Mine go in the bin
They're addressed to a Legal Occupier never heard of the fella
🤣🤣🤣🤣 brilliant stuff, many thanks.
in an ideal world firstly a tv licence free world then a council tax free world
So true, I don't mind the council tax to be honest as I'm paying for services I want. It would be nice not to have to but that's life.
It costs more than a postage stamp for the guy to drive his vehicle and to hand deliver the letter what a moron 😂
That's so true but I think their idea is to put fear in some people in to thinking they've had a visit. It's about a year since I got that letter and since then I've just had a monthly repeat of all the other letters. It does'nt bother me and should'nt bother anyone else as there's nothing to fear, if they stop sending the letters I'd feel left out. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why is a meter reader chasing you for a TV licence? What an odd situation.
TV licencing use them to deliver some of their letters and pass it off as a visit. In some parts of the country they also use them to spy on people when they call to read meters in properties with indoor meters.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions Ah right, Good to know. Thank you.
Just operate a black hole policy now. If they turn up I'll play with them, eg, tell them to wait over the intercom and see how long I can make them stand there. Or of I answer close the door without acknowledging them. I'll then send the footage to TH-cam channels for a laugh. They are scammers and use intimidation, but don't like it turned back on them.
why is a meter reader delivering those letters
Good question, but they also use them as spies whilst reading indoor meters in some areas from what I've read.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions its true just confirmed today wow
just say i remove your right of access they then have to by law go away do not say anything else to them
Visit all you like I enjoy wasting your time.
"Hello, TH-cam" what's all that about then? Are talking to TH-cam or your subscribers? I don' like being called YouTub.
It's a term used by many, you will have heard it many times and will hear it many more times I'm sure.
the tv licence is excellent value for money, all that radio and tv with no advertisements.
I don’t think £159 a year is very good value considering what you get for it and who gets the money.
The BBC daily schedule consists of just too many repeats for one thing and what isn’t a repeat I would not wish to watch anyway.
I also think the days of broadcast TV are nearing an end and few really want to have to watch to a schedule these days or record their favourite programs. The only live broadcast programs in the future will be news and sport events and these will be streamed, no dish or aerial.
I pay for what I want to watch and I watch it when I want to watch it, we have a choice and I choose not to support the BBC.
You think £159 a year good value and you are entitled to that opinion and if you’re happy to pay and enjoy what you get for the money then that’s fine.
We can still watch around 90% of TV using the catch-up services except any BBC content so missing nothing really and can watch it when we want without parting with £159. Many thanks.
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Do you know that you are not allowed to monitor people on the street and other public areas with your security cameras ? Your cameras viewing angles should be limited to your own property only.
That’s simply not true. You can film beyond the edge of your property. It’s impossible to not film beyond when using a Ring door bell due to its design lack of adjustment. All my neighbours are aware of the cameras and happy they are there. If we are not allowed to film as you suggest then the Ring doorbell company would be finished. The GDPR and Data Protection Act 2018 does not apply to personal or household activity.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions I don’t think you’re fully aware of your responsibilities.. See HM Government gov.uk “If your CCTV system captures images of people outside the boundary of your private domestic property - for example, from neighbours’ homes or gardens, shared spaces, or from public areas - then the GDPR and the DPA will apply to you. You will need to ensure your use of CCTV complies with these laws. If you do not comply with your data protection obligations you may be subject to appropriate regulatory action by the ICO, as well as potential legal action by affected individuals.”……”putting up a notice informing people that recording is taking place”…..”you should make sure that the information recorded is used only for the purpose for which your system was installed (for example it will not be appropriate to share any recordings on social media sites)”….. “you will need to be aware of individuals’ data protection rights and make sure you take steps to allow the people you record to exercise these rights effectively (for example, you will need to respond appropriately to any subject access requests you receive from the people you record)”.
@@DARTraderMediaProductions You certainly shouldn’t be posting footage on TH-cam.
It may not be appropriate but for the purpose of the video it serves a purpose and there are thousands of such video's on TH-cam. @@davidp4456
@@DARTraderMediaProductions Ring door bell company should also be able to refer you to regulations and will probably offer you ‘off-property’ filtering applications.
This is a big load of nothing. There is no story here. Just carry on ignoring them.
spot on. Without the help of the homeowner stitching themselves up, they are completely impotent.
Great to see, welcome to battle. with BBC, have subscribled to your channel, great vid thanks
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