Love the fact that if accidentally run into the dock, hit a rock or there’s a log in the water that you don’t see. you can’t fix the fiberglass anymore. Thank you brp for changing up the material of the fiberglass and therefore making it unrepairable.... 🙄🙄
So you have to take the hull apart to work on it like changing the oil. Separate the top from the bottom. Also it’s built with plastic so you get a heavy guy on it jumping waves you will split the hull, just great.
The tech really isn’t there yet. The amount of batteries required to give an electric PWC even half the range of a gas one would be massively heavy, so performance would suffer greatly.
Of course it won't. There's no money to be made if the consumer can repair it him/herself. The Hull will probably be close to half the price of a new Unit . . . same as motorcycles.
“Let’s make our product cheaper and make them out of plastic and bump up our profit margins, then tell them it’s for their benefit...” Seen it all before. I’ll go to Yamaha now, thanks
As a Yamaha owner/fan I must say that Sea-Doo is actually putting an effort into their jet skis. Definitely moving in the right direction. The storage under the steering is fabulous, the speedometer is high tech, the attachment system, etc. Unfortunately Yamahas have had the same design/features forever! Still prefer my 1800cc NA engine though, but I wish they would try something.
Seriously. My gp1800 has the shittiest dash ever. The fuel gauge has 8 bars, but drops in 2 bar increments. Front storage is so hard to use when on the ski. but ive seen a best of 79.3mph and it rips around the buoy course.
As someone that repairs boats and jetski PWC the build quailty of Seadoo is very poor and is only getting worse since they have moved away from gelcoat and glass to that plastic rubbish. The damage is always far greater on seadoo than any other make. What looks fairly small on the outside is always about 5% of the damage below the coatings. Seadoo are the ones that will be making the money from there own poor design / build . Just think of the cost involed in replacing a hull every part needs to be removed and transplanted .Yamaha when they come in the damage you see on the outside is the damage you see inside its much stronger in constuction.
Hopefully an impeller wear ring that last more than a couple hours. ...oh and don't forget the oil galley plug I was a mechanic at a dealership and every single Spark was back in 20 hours or less for warranty work
These manufacturers are heading in the wrong direction. They need to make these jet skis smaller, lighter and more nimble. Like the Spark but with 2X the power.
Seadoo needs to tune that 170 to at least hit 60 mph to compete with the Kawasaki 160X. the Kawasaki has class leading fuel capacity 20.8 gallons and top speed and since Seadoo did not increase the fuel capacity on the GTI 15.9 gallons it needs to at least tune it to run 60 mph. and i have read and seen the polytech hull can be repaired (melt welding cracks) for anything that is not a huge hole in it. of course anything structural you would want to replace the whole thing but you would have to do that with fiberglass also.
Greg Brown I totally agree with the tank capacity comments. My wake 230 needs fuel before coffee time ... The tank empties at a ridiculous rate and then the fun is curtailed.
@ Berk Alper I thought the exact same thing. He’s a salesman for sure because he didn’t flinch once making it seem like that wasn’t going to cost more than a repair.
We own two GTI 130 SE 2016 and 2018. They are great on fuel and very reliable. We like the newer models as they are more stable in rough weather and passenger friendly. The older models were fun to use as well.
Seado has come a long way since I purchased my 1996 model GTI. I have always liked these Seadoo watercraft, as to me they are very reliable machines, and very stable as well.
Great video props or impels to Sea Doo for continuing to invest in R&D and expand the platform. It's really down to a two horse raise any longer. I prefer Yammy but I will support both to keep the industry moving forward. Well done!
So... will this plastic "hull" still be 100% solid and functional as a late 90's Kawasaki 750SXi stand-up, or late 90's Yamaha Wave-Blaster is TODAY? PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE.
Is this plastic hull as durable as fiberglass? I wouldn't think it is... Plus it is way cheaper to make, and we don't see a dime of those savings. That's too bad.Ill stick to my unstable 98 XP - which is way more fun than these will ever be.
Hey man I know it’s unrelated but would you mind doing another video of the mahindra Roxor? I know the year ratio had changed with a new face and front and rear lockers. I’d be interested in a new video like your old one comparing it to the other side by sides
The gti has already been out forever. Sea-Doo just got rid of it and now brought it back? Plenty of people want stability, but it's not the only thing people want. Sea-Doo really took a step in the right direction with the spark, but there wasn't enough power. If you are bringing back older names like gti, you need to bring back names like xp and spx. Lightweight like the spark, but very fast with a ton of low end torque. Bring back the x4 hull of the 96xp or 96-99 spx with more power and you have a bunch of new customers.
@@XxXxSELFMADExXxX I think it’s around 820 pounds empty. The ST3 hull is precise but unforgiving. The riding position is more like a dirt bike. They only made the RXT 230 for two years but some of the other models use the same hull.
This guy just said any damage to the hull just replace it np like it's in anyway cheaper or faster then just doing sum fiberglass patch work. Not a consumer friendly plan their. I love seadoo but they need to get back in the game. I want to see something the size of a seadoo xp with 250hp.
Bought a pair of FX svho Yamahas, sea doos suck. After owning 3 pairs of them, they break all the time while my 13 year old Yamahas never had an issue except batteries. Suck it sea doo!
How about making them more compatible so the average guy can change the battery, grease the fly wheel etc without having to pay an arm and leg for a yearly tune up. Give me back the 97 XP. Ride is basically the same. Dont need 10,000 dollars of gadgets.
Whatttt they are good in fuel economy !!! Really ???? I have a 2019 GTX Limited 300 and is burning tons of fuel bro, the only way to save some is to run in ECO mode and of course you will lose all the fun
So we make the hull out of a cheaper weaker material but jack the price up ? Guess we know what they are doing with all those plastic staws.... What's next a stronger new waterproof paper hull ??? Way to go sea doo always finding a way to screw over your customers....
They just trying to make it more palatable to the dumb masses that get easily scared but "have" the money to buy one. The old "watered down" trick. That just puts more dumb f&%$ that have no business being behind the bar and in the water putting other people's lives at risk. Same happened with the latest Polaris Slingshot, they had to build an AUTOMATIC version because people are too dumb and lazy to drive stick. Plus, they need a hand always free to check their Social Media B.S while driving.
Total Snooze Fest that line-up. 😞 With every passing year they look and get built more and more like some Fisher Price toy. At least they pumped the big N/A triple to 170hp, AT FRIGGING LAST ! 🙄 YUP, that PR guy is a TOTAL BRP TOOL. 😒
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Love the fact that if accidentally run into the dock, hit a rock or there’s a log in the water that you don’t see. you can’t fix the fiberglass anymore. Thank you brp for changing up the material of the fiberglass and therefore making it unrepairable.... 🙄🙄
You'd have to by another plastic hull on sale at your friendly brp dealer for $2,500 before taxes and fees. I'll stick with my Yamaha FX SVHO.
Obviously, you weren't listening to the Sea-Doo rep. You can have it repaired.
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Is your Yami fast?
Get your facts straight fibreglass is easily repairable
So you have to take the hull apart to work on it like changing the oil. Separate the top from the bottom. Also it’s built with plastic so you get a heavy guy on it jumping waves you will split the hull, just great.
I want an all electric version. No fuel cost, minimal maintenance, no fumes etc.
There will be fuel cost...electricity cost money...also, it's a sea don't...it will sink anyway
Weighs 50kg and has a range of 15 miles lol electric is not a great solution for all gas application
Won't last you long. You might stop in the middle of no where
And an hr of run time duh
The tech really isn’t there yet. The amount of batteries required to give an electric PWC even half the range of a gas one would be massively heavy, so performance would suffer greatly.
I like the hull idea, it sounds cheaper to produce but probably won’t translate to savings for the customer which is unfortunate.
Of course it won't. There's no money to be made if the consumer can repair it him/herself. The Hull will probably be close to half the price of a new Unit . . . same as motorcycles.
JIGA BACHI absolutely right!
Cheaper to produce more expensive to replace for customer
“Let’s make our product cheaper and make them out of plastic and bump up our profit margins, then tell them it’s for their benefit...” Seen it all before. I’ll go to Yamaha now, thanks
As a Yamaha owner/fan I must say that Sea-Doo is actually putting an effort into their jet skis. Definitely moving in the right direction. The storage under the steering is fabulous, the speedometer is high tech, the attachment system, etc. Unfortunately Yamahas have had the same design/features forever! Still prefer my 1800cc NA engine though, but I wish they would try something.
Seriously. My gp1800 has the shittiest dash ever. The fuel gauge has 8 bars, but drops in 2 bar increments. Front storage is so hard to use when on the ski.
but ive seen a best of 79.3mph and it rips around the buoy course.
If making their watercraft out of plastic to save on manufacturing, meanwhile charging you up the wazoo for it means good manufacturing, sure
As someone that repairs boats and jetski PWC the build quailty of Seadoo is very poor and is only getting worse since they have moved away from gelcoat and glass to that plastic rubbish. The damage is always far greater on seadoo than any other make. What looks fairly small on the outside is always about 5% of the damage below the coatings. Seadoo are the ones that will be making the money from there own poor design / build . Just think of the cost involed in replacing a hull every part needs to be removed and transplanted .Yamaha when they come in the damage you see on the outside is the damage you see inside its much stronger in constuction.
Of COURSE the SeaDoo Jet Ski rep rocks a flat bill cap.
Hopefully an impeller wear ring that last more than a couple hours.
...oh and don't forget the oil galley plug
I was a mechanic at a dealership and every single Spark was back in 20 hours or less for warranty work
Erik Baldwin agreed ... but to be honest, I think the closed loop cooling is a good idea, and the Rotax triples are trusted. (Love my 230 wake pro)
That's absolutely ridiculous
Its all BS! Push them out before they are tested then let the customer deal with all the BS!
These manufacturers are heading in the wrong direction. They need to make these jet skis smaller, lighter and more nimble. Like the Spark but with 2X the power.
Lol these are gonna be a 17’ center console Boston Whaler soon
You are exactly right go back to a wild ride not this comfort stable ride
No
why I still have a 1990 kawasaki x2 and a 1994 yamaha waveblaster, they are basically dirtbikes for the water, I will never sell them
brendan choma same reason I still have a 94 seadoo xp with bolt ons and a 2001 Yamaha 1200gpr.
Seadoo needs to tune that 170 to at least hit 60 mph to compete with the Kawasaki 160X. the Kawasaki has class leading fuel capacity 20.8 gallons and top speed and since Seadoo did not increase the fuel capacity on the GTI 15.9 gallons it needs to at least tune it to run 60 mph.
and i have read and seen the polytech hull can be repaired (melt welding cracks) for anything that is not a huge hole in it. of course anything structural you would want to replace the whole thing but you would have to do that with fiberglass also.
Greg Brown I totally agree with the tank capacity comments. My wake 230 needs fuel before coffee time ... The tank empties at a ridiculous rate and then the fun is curtailed.
The more unstable a jet ski is, the more fun it is. If I wanted stability I'd buy a boat.
@Pandacat 666 yes sir. Been jet skiing since I was a teenager.
This isn't for agile young athletic people it's for fat out of shape middle aged drunk guys named Dave or Bob at their cabins.
Mr M their sons will want it to rip though
No
Benjamin Burkhardt can’t see a Binliner achieving 69mph as the 230SeaDoo can .....
Seadoo needs to bring back the 90’s HX that thing is fun, I’m looking for a good used one right now.
Soooo you are forced to buy replacements instead of being able to fix hull damage? Gr8
@ Berk Alper I thought the exact same thing. He’s a salesman for sure because he didn’t flinch once making it seem like that wasn’t going to cost more than a repair.
Yup. Sea doo is making their stuff out of plastic now. And trying to convince us their cost savings “sh!t sandwich” is a gourmet meal
We own two GTI 130 SE 2016 and 2018. They are great on fuel and very reliable. We like the newer models as they are more stable in rough weather and passenger friendly. The older models were fun to use as well.
Do these still come with the exploding engine feature?
Seado has come a long way since I purchased my 1996 model GTI. I have always liked these Seadoo watercraft, as to me they are very reliable machines, and very stable as well.
Great video props or impels to Sea Doo for continuing to invest in R&D and expand the platform. It's really down to a two horse raise any longer. I prefer Yammy but I will support both to keep the industry moving forward. Well done!
Hahaha, impels. Nice
Nice to see rubbermaid can be recycled into a hull.
Lets see the top dog performance review
So all new sea-doo models are made of plastic. Roger that. I’ll buy from Yamaha now. Thanks for making my decision that much easier
And we will sell you a new hull if you get a crack. Also, don’t worry if we stop making the hull, we will sell you a new boat.
I get loads of scratches on my rxtx 2020 even when just drying it down
Marine Junkies does the hull scratch easier with the polytech
So... will this plastic "hull" still be 100% solid and functional as a late 90's Kawasaki 750SXi stand-up, or late 90's Yamaha Wave-Blaster is TODAY? PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE.
Is this plastic hull as durable as fiberglass? I wouldn't think it is... Plus it is way cheaper to make, and we don't see a dime of those savings. That's too bad.Ill stick to my unstable 98 XP - which is way more fun than these will ever be.
yamaha's are looking better and better everyday
Hey man I know it’s unrelated but would you mind doing another video of the mahindra Roxor? I know the year ratio had changed with a new face and front and rear lockers. I’d be interested in a new video like your old one comparing it to the other side by sides
Hyped
The gti has already been out forever. Sea-Doo just got rid of it and now brought it back? Plenty of people want stability, but it's not the only thing people want. Sea-Doo really took a step in the right direction with the spark, but there wasn't enough power.
If you are bringing back older names like gti, you need to bring back names like xp and spx. Lightweight like the spark, but very fast with a ton of low end torque. Bring back the x4 hull of the 96xp or 96-99 spx with more power and you have a bunch of new customers.
You have to try the ST3 hull. I have a 2018 RXT 230 and the hull and seating position are so much better.
@@chrisedward7575 how's the weight?
@@XxXxSELFMADExXxX I think it’s around 820 pounds empty. The ST3 hull is precise but unforgiving. The riding position is more like a dirt bike. They only made the RXT 230 for two years but some of the other models use the same hull.
I want and I find tent like roof for jet ski see doo. Maybe for fish pro. That I can covered when going rain. And when whether is not to sunny.
Hey guy any news on the 2022 yamaha waverunner fx colors that are coming out this summer in the usa
They need to bring back the GTR-230x
Those look shorter than competitors which I like. Some PWC may as well be boats
Using Teflon to sell pre-stressed Jeans.
Is there any major change to the wake pro 230 2019 and the 2020?
I think you should look up the word "
Colorization"
GoldWings on the water. What happened to the crotch rocket water bikes? IE: Jet Skis? Shouldn't we be seeing EV based water rockets by now? lol
Do a we do you on the Sea-Doo GTX model and ZGGISE model
Whats the top speed of the wake model?
Anyone know where I can get that red hat?
Don't you just hate when corporate people talk shit to make it sound exciting.
Who else thinks last years looked wayyyyyyyyyy better
😂😂😂😂 our new plat form called the gti has been around from 1997.
This guy just said any damage to the hull just replace it np like it's in anyway cheaper or faster then just doing sum fiberglass patch work. Not a consumer friendly plan their. I love seadoo but they need to get back in the game. I want to see something the size of a seadoo xp with 250hp.
Ya ok but I just want to price of the spark
The fully stock one is like 5,500
Jorge Garcia spark or gti cus the gti starting is 9000$
Instead of patching you can replace the hull patching cost $300 with labor new hull is $5,000 no thanks
Bought a pair of FX svho Yamahas, sea doos suck. After owning 3 pairs of them, they break all the time while my 13 year old Yamahas never had an issue except batteries. Suck it sea doo!
N G but you’ve got hot salt water and aluminium mixed in your engines ! Reckon that’s a good idea ? .... really ?
But do they still sink
No
They sure do. 2014 spark took on a tremendous amount of water from a driveshaft seal letting go. At this time ski was 2 years old.
Looks like the Indian River.....
Plastic hulls, no thanks
How about making them more compatible so the average guy can change the battery, grease the fly wheel etc without having to pay an arm and leg for a yearly tune up. Give me back the 97 XP. Ride is basically the same. Dont need 10,000 dollars of gadgets.
And it can it be yours for only $40,000 plus tax. LOL
whats the best one for game fishing large tuna
I will own a jet ski one day, I will own a jet ski one day, I will own a jet ski one day
Perhaps RENT! No clutter /no divorce!
Whatttt they are good in fuel economy !!! Really ???? I have a 2019 GTX Limited 300 and is burning tons of fuel bro, the only way to save some is to run in ECO mode and of course you will lose all the fun
Bullshit the GTI platform has been out for year's
I never heard of the term 'wake skating'. Lol
So we make the hull out of a cheaper weaker material but jack the price up ? Guess we know what they are doing with all those plastic staws.... What's next a stronger new waterproof paper hull ??? Way to go sea doo always finding a way to screw over your customers....
Stability is boring. They are making these pwc’s boring the whole point is to try to stay on not drive around like a boat.
No
DORTMUND _DIF OK BOOMER.
They just trying to make it more palatable to the dumb masses that get easily scared but "have" the money to buy one.
The old "watered down" trick. That just puts more dumb f&%$ that have no business being behind the bar and in the water putting other people's lives at risk. Same happened with the latest Polaris Slingshot, they had to build an AUTOMATIC version because people are too dumb and lazy to drive stick. Plus, they need a hand always free to check their Social Media B.S while driving.
This guy is like watching paint dry on a wall...
When you say stable machine...
step on the machine...
when you say lots storage...
show me !!
Total Snooze Fest that line-up. 😞 With every passing year they look and get built more and more like some Fisher Price toy.
At least they pumped the big N/A triple to 170hp, AT FRIGGING LAST ! 🙄
YUP, that PR guy is a TOTAL BRP TOOL. 😒
Scratch resistant my ass worst material ever for scratches and makes the ski look cheap as all hell
Rotax < Yamaha. Simple as that.
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Mmmmm honestly the new 2020s are boring
Junk
Why all the grey colors it is just ugly and boring.
Seadoo's used to look good ...coming from a Yamaha fanboy.
I actually don't mind the colors. They contrast well together. Let's not forget what colors the 90's brought us.
The colour scheme sucks. No offense.
we have a seadoo XP 800 best thing ever light and quick and fun as hell
1995 xp800 limited and 96 Xp is the best ski ever my friend had one he hoped up 68.3 mph they look like there flying just setting in the water