Inti only lets you play cards until your next ends step. Exiling cards during your turn only allows you to cast them during that turn. However exiling them during your opponents turns will allow you to have them available for your next turn.
I looked if anyone comented that before me, thank you for also noticing it and pointing it out! Found that pretty strange, as it is a common card wording.
@@hyfynorris there are so many almost the same but not quit equal wordings with impulse draw that honestly i get it. Between until you next turn, until your next end step, until the end of your next turn, until the next endstep... I also get confused sometimes.
Yeah they made "impulse" draw a thing a never figured out what it is so you have to read exactly what the card says cause it could be worded 5+ different ways. It's incredibly annoying when playing a deck and you still have to carefully read every card despite playing it many times.
@@emptynest4103 Yeah, for sure... that kinda stuff never goes through me, but only after much trial and error (mainly error) of playing with cards like obeka or purphoros, lmao.
I can't believe Ben didn't have a single thing is 45-or-so card hand where he could kill his commander, replay it with all those treasures, and then play EVERY CREATURE IN HIS HAND. THAT WOULD'VE BEEN INSANE
Mycotyrant would be way to op, if tokens counted for descend. You could always sacrifice all of them to get them back at the end step. Still a fun to watch game though
A permanent card is an artifact, battle, creature, enchantment, land, or planeswalker card. Tokens are not cards, and while tokens are put into the graveyard before ceasing to exist, that action doesn't count as a player having descended.. :(
It says permanent card. Tokens are not cards in the stack of 100. Descend only counts cards not tokens. Yes tokens are permanents and they do hit the graveyard but they are not cards.
Tokens are NOT cards, therefore they do not count as permanent CARDS hitting the graveyard and thus do not trigger the descend mechanic. Or anything to do with descending for that matter.
I know EDH is a very complicated format with lots of moving parts but I feel you guys should be a bit more careful with regards to mechanics and card texts so that it'd be much more informative for and helpful to newer players. Descend doesn't trigger off of tokens and inti only exiles until end of its controller's next end step not the end step of the next turn. (those were the mistakes until the point I've watched so far at 23:40) as always, thanks for the content and I love this team!
I haven't seen anyone guessing so I thought I would give it a go using context clues (some of these answers are intended in humour). A. is Ben I think because it's the same dice as the one on the Hornet queen (bit of a stretch but it's something). B. is Blake because I think he's the most likely to draw an insect with a gun on account of all the one damage ping decks he has played. I thought about saying CGB is C. and Shae is D. for alphabetical consistency but then I saw C. had the Deathtouch keyword uncapitalised and I knew no one who goes by CGB and considers themself the one in best of one would forget a capitalisation so my final answer is, from A-D, Ben, Blake, Shea and CGB. Feel free to let me know if you have other theories or you comments people agree with my logic and thank you very much to HolyMTG for gifting me a sub to Shae's Twitch channel a while ago. Sorry I didn't make much use of it but it was appreciated. (I'm part of the replay squad when I can because I live in the wrong part of the world to catch them live so I can't really send messages there). Yes, I am absolutely using my comment to recruit someone so the message will hopefully get to Holy. Consider it thematically Orzhov. Otherwise GG guys, thanks for the game, it was fun to watch and I think Ben wins the intro pose competition for this week.
Ben dying to unblockable Laelia after drawing 43 cards is why I run obscuring haze in every green deck I own now that it's super cheap 😭😭 I was cheering for you buddy
How was Blake planning on getting that combo with ashnod's altar, fireweaver, and animation module going with Saheeli? Sounds really cool but I can't piece it together
You need to Tap treasures to sac and get the Mana. Because the 7/7 treasures have summoning sickness, he Had only the gold Token Mana (No need to Tap gold). Ben knew it and made the best play with exploration and Triple mana.
20:21 Laelia only gets 1 counter becouse saids "ewhenever one or more cards are put into exile" so it counts effects that put them in exile not cards puts in exile
Unintuitively, that wording does actually count each card revealed, as it technically does so individually. It's a weird ruling, but they did actually play it correctly.
laelia triggers when one or more cards are exiled from your graveyard or from your library, so when discovering, you only get a single +1/+1 counter on her, because all the cards are exiled at the same time
So that isn't how mycotyrant works, and your list doesn't really work as a result (except the combo). I built a list that does go balistic with tokens, and also includes some lovely spice like Triumph of the Hordes. Opponents also LOVE seeing mesmeric orb lmao
Inti only lets you play cards until your next ends step. Exiling cards during your turn only allows you to cast them during that turn. However exiling them during your opponents turns will allow you to have them available for your next turn.
I looked if anyone comented that before me, thank you for also noticing it and pointing it out! Found that pretty strange, as it is a common card wording.
@@hyfynorris there are so many almost the same but not quit equal wordings with impulse draw that honestly i get it. Between until you next turn, until your next end step, until the end of your next turn, until the next endstep... I also get confused sometimes.
Yeah they made "impulse" draw a thing a never figured out what it is so you have to read exactly what the card says cause it could be worded 5+ different ways. It's incredibly annoying when playing a deck and you still have to carefully read every card despite playing it many times.
@@emptynest4103 Yeah, for sure... that kinda stuff never goes through me, but only after much trial and error (mainly error) of playing with cards like obeka or purphoros, lmao.
Due to the oopsy of two of the commanders mechanics, we need a rematch!
“You guys deal with the problem you made.” My favorite part haha
I can't believe Ben didn't have a single thing is 45-or-so card hand where he could kill his commander, replay it with all those treasures, and then play EVERY CREATURE IN HIS HAND. THAT WOULD'VE BEEN INSANE
Unfortunately, his treasures had summoning sickness when they became 7/7 dinosaurs.
Descend does not count tokens! 34:12
Second episode in a row they've got this wrong, surprised none of them have caught it.
It enters the graveyard, then immediately disappears next time state-based actions are checked. So, yes it counts
@@Cafushinowtokens are not cards, so no, they do not trigger Descend
It's funny because this is the only time she has counted the tokens makes you wonder
Mycotyrant would be way to op, if tokens counted for descend. You could always sacrifice all of them to get them back at the end step. Still a fun to watch game though
Yeah, descent checks specifically for permanent cards and tokens are not cards
Tokens dosn't count for Descend. It's not a cards.
A rematch is definitely called for considering the misplays... let's see what these decks do when played correctly!
The smirk that slowly appears on CGB’s face when he starts to combo is priceless every time it happens
The red commander allow u to play the card until your next endstep not your next turn
And i will add that token doesn’t count for the descend trigger
Very impactful Missplay
Just wondering what the deck lists were for these decks?
Bens pose on 6:06 is absolutely sending me xD
A permanent card is an artifact, battle, creature, enchantment, land, or planeswalker card. Tokens are not cards, and while tokens are put into the graveyard before ceasing to exist, that action doesn't count as a player having descended.. :(
Easiest way to remember is permanent cards are the cards in your deck only. Not anything created by a card.
A token is a permanent. It goes to the gy but doesnt show up thete so it doesnt count
A token is a permanent as such things count only to the battlefield, not the graveyard.
It says permanent card. Tokens are not cards in the stack of 100. Descend only counts cards not tokens. Yes tokens are permanents and they do hit the graveyard but they are not cards.
😅 the Crew punching Blake like he was a Mario coin box😅😅😅
Shea and Craterhoof is like peanut butter and jelly. They just go together lol
Tokens are NOT cards, therefore they do not count as permanent CARDS hitting the graveyard and thus do not trigger the descend mechanic. Or anything to do with descending for that matter.
43:47 The second when CGB's heart rips in half.
Unexpected surprise game!(hope this was intentional)
Very enjoyable as always
When will the deck lists be released??
I know EDH is a very complicated format with lots of moving parts but I feel you guys should be a bit more careful with regards to mechanics and card texts so that it'd be much more informative for and helpful to newer players. Descend doesn't trigger off of tokens and inti only exiles until end of its controller's next end step not the end step of the next turn. (those were the mistakes until the point I've watched so far at 23:40)
as always, thanks for the content and I love this team!
Came for this comment. So frustrating to see so many games likely going different ways because they don't read the cards.
I've missed Blake. Good to see him back! #TeamBlenke :)
Doesn't the dinosaur gold have summoning sickness at 38:34
Gold doesn't need to be tapped to sacrifice and make mana with it.
That's the difference to treasures.
@@besenkehricht5427 oh swick i never knew that
I come for the commander; I stay for Blake's pregame death glare at CGB
yoo that Tribute was popping of short. Idk why i find this so funny :D 9:56
I haven't seen anyone guessing so I thought I would give it a go using context clues (some of these answers are intended in humour). A. is Ben I think because it's the same dice as the one on the Hornet queen (bit of a stretch but it's something). B. is Blake because I think he's the most likely to draw an insect with a gun on account of all the one damage ping decks he has played. I thought about saying CGB is C. and Shae is D. for alphabetical consistency but then I saw C. had the Deathtouch keyword uncapitalised and I knew no one who goes by CGB and considers themself the one in best of one would forget a capitalisation so my final answer is, from A-D, Ben, Blake, Shea and CGB.
Feel free to let me know if you have other theories or you comments people agree with my logic and thank you very much to HolyMTG for gifting me a sub to Shae's Twitch channel a while ago. Sorry I didn't make much use of it but it was appreciated. (I'm part of the replay squad when I can because I live in the wrong part of the world to catch them live so I can't really send messages there). Yes, I am absolutely using my comment to recruit someone so the message will hopefully get to Holy. Consider it thematically Orzhov. Otherwise GG guys, thanks for the game, it was fun to watch and I think Ben wins the intro pose competition for this week.
Ayy a new episode!! You guys are my favorite commander channel
There are any place to look the decklists? ^^
Shea's facial expressions are GOLD. #BestCommanderShow
Ben dying to unblockable Laelia after drawing 43 cards is why I run obscuring haze in every green deck I own now that it's super cheap 😭😭
I was cheering for you buddy
Where are the deck lists???
Wrong Upload date? The title seems like a filler and it has only been 3 days since the last upload :D
dont tell em🤫
now imagine a universe where Ben is less timmy and puts a fog in his deck...
How did Laelia get double strike? And would love to see the decklists : )
Just wondering why the green deck didn't save like a beast within or a fight card for instant speed removal?
How was Blake planning on getting that combo with ashnod's altar, fireweaver, and animation module going with Saheeli? Sounds really cool but I can't piece it together
Is it the worst possible commander show? Maybe. Is it the funniest? Absolutely! Amazing job guys!
can the treasures you make that are 7/7's even be tapped ? I thought they would have summoning sickness
Treasures can’t be tapped and sacrificed for mana, but the Gold from Curse of Opulence do work.
Ben/Blake/CGB have replaced Timmy/Johnny/Spike in my mind.
Between Intl and Descend misinterpretations, consider a re-do.
Shae’s face at 19:38 says it all lol
I’m so here for this, an oopsie upload is still a great game of commander
This is every Timmy’s dream 36:26
I refuse to believe ben couldn't handle CGB's attack after drawing 42 cards and having 42 mana to spend...
He didn't have a reliquary tower or a counter it seems.
You need to Tap treasures to sac and get the Mana. Because the 7/7 treasures have summoning sickness, he Had only the gold Token Mana (No need to Tap gold). Ben knew it and made the best play with exploration and Triple mana.
@@dr4acula hmm makes sense
41:21 CGB was supposed to attack with everything cause Spectacular Showdown goads all creatures
He goaded after his own combat, and goad only lasts until your next turn, so by his next turn they are no longer goaded
what a game Ben, :D loving it
Is LC of Ixalan worth buying - any takes?
20:21 Laelia only gets 1 counter becouse saids "ewhenever one or more cards are put into exile" so it counts effects that put them in exile not cards puts in exile
Unintuitively, that wording does actually count each card revealed, as it technically does so individually. It's a weird ruling, but they did actually play it correctly.
Amazing game, thank you for the content. Wonder what was Ben's 7 after drawing half his deck 🤔
That fungus was humungous
C is best bug obv. Love the content!!
Use a phyrexian metamorph in a blue green commander deck to clone the Craterhoof.
Timing is key.
That'll help you Blake
decent does not trigger on tokens
Remember to always pack your skullcracks.
Omg!!! Ben with 42 7/7 Dino, treasures and then draws that many cards…. But forgot to get a counter. Haha great game this was a fun one to watch.
Well played Shay, nice job not falling prey to CGB's coercion to use spore frog ahead of time.
Insect C. is the clearly superior token drawing 😂
Thus ends the threat of OvertGoRed. But... for how long?
Shea repping the fungus well!
Nice win at the end! 😁
Ghalta once it gets on the battlefield it’s the type of card you don’t wanna kill because in green they have more than enough mana to do it again
b is the best insect
Actually really excited to see cgb play Inti as I'm actively brewing an underworld breach combo variant for cedh so I'm gonna be cribbing ideas haha
laelia triggers when one or more cards are exiled from your graveyard or from your library, so when discovering, you only get a single +1/+1 counter on her, because all the cards are exiled at the same time
They should errata Spore Frog to be a Frog Fungus
Shea-terhoof behemoth.... classic!
I'm surprised someone didn't pick the curse for card of the game. It gave out so much gold to everyone
Where decklists?
Shea always has the best basic lands.
incredible game! this is why we play commander
When he said he'd use a drake for the swansong, I hoped Blake would go 'so you're saying that's a Swan Drake'? *snicker*.
Wow, what a game
LOVED THIS EPISODE
I think the best insect token was A. Cause it was the only one who’s text was in the right places
Fun fact inti is the Inca sun god
So that isn't how mycotyrant works, and your list doesn't really work as a result (except the combo).
I built a list that does go balistic with tokens, and also includes some lovely spice like Triumph of the Hordes. Opponents also LOVE seeing mesmeric orb lmao
I'm vibing with Insect token C
What a game!
lovethe Shea decks, all of them S2
What a game! Nicely done shea
get me some mono green target removal
Hoooooooooooo this one is a banger
great title
If the treasures are dinosaurs, don’t they have summoning sickness? If so, was Ben able to sac it to play something?
The one he sacrificed was the gold token from curse of opulence, which doesn’t need to tap to sac itself!
@@caseyfurey1348 that's pretty sweet! So gold is actually better than treasure! Interesting to know!
Second match where tokens got counted for descend eek. That’d be busted. Don’t work like that
Shea does it again! Great pod/great game
Nice win shea!
Descent is permanent *card* Tokens are not cards, they are tokens.
After watching a bunch of these. I build decks just like shae! I’d be curious who everyone feels they build decks like and why!
Im laughing at all these comments cause yall got so many things wrong😂😭
Congrats on your awesome win Shea!
C. Beedrill is my final answer
Does insect B have a gun lmao
Gotta keep it fresh to death
covert go mono red but blake go mono forehead
It’s a five head get it right
Spore frog is so busted with Muldrotha ! My friends hate it
C, is the best insect
Can you do an episode where someone plays Vito, Fanatic of Aclazotz? I think that he is a realy good commander and would like to see him in action
What a bonker game honestly. Mycotyrant is such a great card honestly :) I am in love with it
it's a lot better when you break its rules xD
I bet my money on Shea
holy impactful misplays batman
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Sen-eh-shall. Also Blake rocking that Marshall Sutcliffe hairline.