Great video. There’s also an in-universe reason for the boob armor that most people don’t realize: The armor was commissioned and designed by Goge Vandire who used the sisters (called the brides of the emperor at the time) as his personal harem. So, it makes sense for it to look like that because it was designed by a pervy crazy despot.
Yes, but also no. The Sisters of Silence also have boob plate and have since before the Heresy. If anything, the Sororatas armour is based off of the Null Maiden armour in the same way that Astarte armour is derived from Custodes armour.
My favorite fan-canon reason is so that even under armor they are distinguishable as feminine, as the Ecclesiarchy can have no men under arms. So they have boob armor to go "Yeah these are girls, it's okay, we are following The Rules™️"
Always funny to see that the boob armor argument is always around Sororitas while no ones care that both kind of Aeldaries have it... Or that some factions just go to waaagh wearing a torn shirt XD
I think it's just more obvious with the Sisters because the entire army has it. But yeah, Howling Banshees might actually predate the Sisters in terms of when they were introduced to the game.
@@Trayzentheinfinite In the WH40K chronology, Banshees as one of the first Aspect Warrior shrines definitely predate Sisters that only showed up a few thousand years after the Heresy. I just don't know enough about the really early game to be 100% sure that the Howling Banshees were introduced to the canon before any mention of the Sisters of Battle.
There's a lot of rule of cool in 40k designs, the dialogue about boob armour doesn't take into account that boobs are cool and therefore boob armour fits in the rule of cool
As a woman the boob armor is awesome. Men get stylized armor all the time to accentuate their masculine features, women doing the same isn't a big deal. Now historically irl it would have been more of an issue with the materials holding up to what they would likely encounter on the battlefield, and not accidentally deflecting a blade directly into your heart. But given the state of 40k, you'd be hard pressed to say that's a realistic or important thing to account for with their armor which is mostly there to protect against lasers and similar weapons, and where all the swords are chainsaws ironically making the boob plate less of a liability because of the lack of piercing potential. Not to mention the whole problem is with more pronounced armor, which is only a consideration for named and important characters/officers who are clearly wearing it because it's more ceremonial and they are less likely to personally be on the front lines making the point moot. The standard armor given to normal Sisters of Battle barely have any bump, well within the realms of what is safe and practical even irl (also idk how to explain this to the guys, but the boobs don't just squish down, having a little extra space is important to make sure they can actually breath in their armor and aren't slowly crushing their rib cage while doing high exertion activities like purging the heretical and xenos filth that plague Humanity's Galaxy. And as someone else pointed out, if you really want to talk about the armor being bad you're looking in entirely the wrong place, it's the horrifically inexcusable high heels that don't make any sense. Give these ladies some proper boots Emperor Damnit!!!)
Only thing I think I would disagree with here is the whole "internal deflection" thing. Personally, I think it's highly exaggerated to the point of absurdity. That's not to say that it isn't sub-optimal, I just think that *certain* people on the internet overexaggerate the issues with it.
Looking at historical precedents, boob shaped armour could have easily existed if more women were knights. Ofc there were a few documented cases here and there, but the thing about armour is: It's not tightly fit to the body. They often wore thick leader underneath, multiple layers of clothes to dampen the force of the strike, and in case of penetration, or a hit between armour parts, to have more layers of safety. This meant that "conventional" male armour fit women just as much as it did men. Till this point, we're just talking about practicality. Now, if female knights were more common, bigger customizations for women or cultural shifts would have easily been possible, including armour mirroring the shape of women, perhaps idealized versions of the female human form, like often found in male armour. Tldr.: Boob armour didn't exist because this is the way our culture and civilization happened to shape, but that doesn't make it unrealistic in a fantasy setting or a hypothetical history that just happened to unfold in a different direction.
in real life, there are examples of boob armour but for very rich women, as it takes a lot more work to make, so women would just ware the same as men but with a bigger chest size
To add to the importance of femininity for the Sororitas, I need enthasise just how important it is this idea of looking like a woman matters. The imperium practically worships all things human, and the purity of the human form is appart of this. The boob armor and corsets of sororitas armor isn't just there to say "I am a woman", its to scream "I am a beautiful woman and a pinnacle of the female human form!!" The irony is that the armor can ensure the sisters look the part of a perfect woman even if their actual bodies might not be so blessed, be it by poor genetics or the countless battle scars they accumulate. Thusly, removing the boob armor would be a huge insult to a sororitas as it claims that something is wrong with the female form at its peak. Its akin to saying the Emperor was somehow wrong in the gifts he granted humanity. Let's remind that sororitas don't shy away from things like make-up. Their appearance very much matters to them.
Eh the last part depends on which group of sisters, some of them are really into the scars and whatnot, however even that does still count as caring about appearence just in a different more martyr-y way.
"Aesthetics are as important if not more so than effectiveness in combat as the Emperor Himself has obviously, OBVIOUSLY, O B V I O U S L Y decreed!" -Vulkan He'Stan, Best Forge Father
@@isiahalcindor6278Regular chest pieces like you see on knights are shaped that way as to absorb the force and impact of a blow so they can minimize damage to the internal organs. Adding a cleavage/"boob pocket" creates a weak point in the plate and there's less space for the force of an impact to spread, thus making the wearer more likely to taken out of combat if she's hit on the chest.
@lirima-hirumi did you not watch the same video I did? Krak Duk explains that point is moot because anything powerful enough to go through power armor is going to go through regardless and anything that needs that cleavage leverage won't get through power armor.
I've seen a few discussions regarding "boob armour" (in the context of breastplates with individual cups, not bikini armour, which is obviously not actual armour) from people who do have experience, and the general consensus is that it doesn't really make a significant difference to the protective qualities. Good quality plate is going to be good quality plate regardless, let alone power armour, and the cuirass is one of the toughest pieces by default - shot trap or not, any hit that can penetrate right at the centre of the cuirass can probably get through other parts of the armour far more easily. As long as there's proper padding beneath the armour (which there should be anyway) - it might theoretically be a little more vulnerable than a more conventionally shaped cuirass, but not enough to matter. It'd be more expensive to shape the cuirass that way, and there's not really a benefit to doing so (breastplates normally have a bulge anyway, and moving the bulge up slightly wouldn't be too hard), but if the armorer really wanted to make sure it was obvious that the wearer was a woman (or wanted to be seen as one), there's really not anything significant to be lost from shaping a cuirass that way. And the Ecclesiarchy armorers really don't want anyone mistaking the Sisters for men under arms.
Exactly, and there is historical precedent as well. Look at the ridiculous codpieces on late medieval full plate harnesses. They served no functional role, many were even hinged to suggest the wearer was taking leaks out of the thing even though both size and armour and padding layout made such a thing impossible. It was a case of exaggerating penis size, everyone knew everyone was lying but they all did it anyway because it was the fashion. If men did that for literal centuries then I feel that had more armour been made for women specifically we WOULD see examples of boob armour in museums. The reason we do not is not because it would not have been done, or significantly affects the protection of the armour, but simply because very little armour was made specifically for women.... And none that may have been survives....
I don't think you know how armour works. The problem isn't that it's going to get pierced, the problem is blunt force trauma. And such a shape makes a plate especially voulnrable to such blunt force trauma. Just imagine you're swinging a warhammer at a steel plate. If you were to swing it at a plate with a regular shape (a very slight curve without any pertrusions) you might make a bit of a dent in it, but all in all, it would still somewhat hold up. Now imagine you're swinging at a plate with a boob shaped pertrusion. That pertrusion would get squished. Not ideal, right? And then you have the issue of padding. A regular plate is fine to pad, but a boob-plate? How would you even fit any significant padding into there? Especially with the designs you see for a lot of the sororitas, unless they're all A cups, that armour is basically right on the skin.
@@jojomaster7675 That's the common argument. It doesn't hold up. Plate made from good materials is more solid than you think - the difference in shape has an extremely small chance of being the reason that armour gets caved in. Additionally, 40K power armour is supposed to be light-years ahead of steel plate in the material science side of things. Padding is also doable. It's been done. Broadly speaking, in practice the boob-plate is decorative with the padding underneath being similar to what it would be with a conventional breastplate, similar to how codpiece armour doesn't actually involve slipping the relevant appendage into the codpiece. As for making detailed analysis of the proportions of the miniatures to assess how skintight or otherwise the power armour must be... Games Workshop's sculpts have always had a few problems with proportions when you look closely at them. It's basically impossible for power armour to actually be skintight, although to be fair the "power" aspects of the power armour might be fairly minimal around the chest plate since that's not an area that moves a lot.
@@Draxynnic It's not as negligable as you make it out to be. Any kind of significant bend will severly decrease a plate's integrity, as whatever's past the bend will receive very little structural support from the plate before it. And as far as power armour being more powerful than steel - while you are right, you seem to be forgetting that weapons and opponents are a good bit stronger as well, so in the end, it doesn't matter. And what you described with the padding doesn't quite work, as you still need to fit the boobs somewhere. So if you were to make a traditional plate and then put on the rest as decorations (provided the woman wearing it isn't completely flat), you would end up with a very odd and imbalanced looking armour with extremely unnatural proportions and not at all what is commonly shown for the sororitas. You do actually need to shape the armour with the boobs in mind (just not like what is done here) and not just make a regular plate and then put decorative steel bits on top of that. Imo, it would be much better to make a unified space for both boobs. It would still make the sororitas look feminine, but wouldn't be nearly as detrimental to it's function.
@@jojomaster7675 The shape of the breastplate doesn't affect the ability of the armour to resist blunt force as much as you think it does. Something that will cave in a boob plate will probably also cave in a regular cuirass the majority of the time anyway. People have done the tests. As for the 41st millennium - weapons are stronger, yes, but they're mostly stronger through the use of energy fields, heat, or increased cutting potential to get through armour, not by increased percussive force. I'm sure there are exceptions, but again, there's going to be a fairly narrow range of impact force where the boob plate actually matters. Also, women who have worn armour are mostly able to fit their chest into a regular-shaped cuirass. Usually the front of the cuirass is a fair way out from the sternum even on a man, and then an arming doublet is worn in between which is fairly padded anyway, and when the woman isn't interested in showing off, chests can normally be flattened a fair amount without being uncomfortable (can happen naturally when a woman is lying on her back without a bra, in fact). Someone who's particularly well-endowed might need to make allowances, but the same allowances would be made for the padded garment underneath as well. So, most of the time, the boob plate is going to be decorative, just like codpiece armour, and when it's not, it's as large as it is because it's accommodating not just the (probably still squished down quite a bit) breasts, but also the arming doublet or 40K equivalent as well. And again, pointing at the precise proportions of the models is ignoring the reality that a number of proportions are often distorted with models of that scale due to the practicalities involved. I have fantasy models from back in the day where a model's hands are about the size of their heads, and without the excuse of being power enhanced gauntlets or the like. I hope I don't need to tell you that's not how large hands really are, but they kinda needed to be in order to have enough detail to be recognisable as hands in the first place. Similarly, the heads of most hafted weapons are, in reality, smaller than the actual head of the wielder because that's what's actually practical when it comes to weight distributions, but if the weapons were properly scaled, they'd be spindly little things that'd break off at a slight knock. The models are intended to be representative, with certain features exaggerated so you can see them at the scale, not a perfect representation. In reality, even following the principle of wanting to make sure people knew these were female soldiers, the bumps on the armour would probably only stick out about an inch or two from where the surface of the armour would be otherwise. But on the 25mm scale, that would be almost unnoticeable, so it's exaggerated. It's far from the only thing that's exaggerated in Warhammer models.
Mini’s are pretty small and it’s hard to tell male from female unless they have boob armour. Without it they’re just skinny guys with somewhat feminine heads tacked on.
And honestly you can't really tell the difference at tabletop distance. A trooper in armor with a rifle looks the same be they male or female. Men are just larger versions. "boob armor" is an aesthetic thing, and the "nuns with guns" is a fetish thing from the 80's/90's. However armor that shows off physical features isn't a new thing. The Romans and Greeks wore breast plates that imitated ideals in masculine appearance and were reasonably effective as body armor.
A nicely balanced video. When i think about it the armour of the Emperors 'Imperial Truth' Imperium should probably have been more ultilitarian in the 30k period, all dull practical armour with little flair, while the 40k era, driven by its faith and passion for ceremony, is naturally filled with elaborate, baroque gothic fashions.
Lmao I love the sanguinary guard. Wouldn’t want all the marines to have the look, but thematically the sculpted muscles fit the sanguinary guard so well imo. Also thank you for watching!
Aye the blood angels definitely have a cool unique gothic aesthetic. I'm more of a Dark Angels guy myself I just love the monk robes over power armor look.
For me at least, isn’t that the sister have boob armor, but that they ONLY have boob armor. Also, I just prefer women in not boob armor in general and they are other way of making armor feminine that just look cooler.
@@Mastercheap kit bashing exists also women in 40k dont just have boob armor look at female commissars and guardsmen they have the same armor as the men.
@@GutsOfRivia I mean, I was talking about the sister of battle specifically. Not the guard, who are cool by the way. Frankly, I am not even against all types of boob armor, has long has it doesn’t have a gap in between the boob and cover the body, then I am fine with it. I just think that boob armor (the one with the gap) just doesn’t look has cool and badass has not boob. Maybe if it has abs, it could work. I also don’t collect minis because I know how much they cost, I don’t always have the best control on my money, don’t have a job and I am also a cheap bastard, so while I would like to collect them and kitbash them, I won’t for a while. Kitbashing would also not change warhammer art of the sister of battle. Sorry for the long reply or if some part don’t make sense by the way, It is about midnight has I am finishing it.
The practically point of view falls flat when you remember this is Warhammer 40,000, the faction that gets put on all the posters literally cannot raise their arms due to comically large pauldrons. Being practical was never the intent.
Casual 40k fan here The universe of 40k is is not subtle when it comes to visual storytelling. Your senses take information as if it project into your mind like the corrupting influence of Chaos.
Thanks a lot haha, just wanted to put some of my thoughts on the subject out there and hopefully entertain some folks as well. Thanks for watching the video!
This is similar to how i feel about space marines not wearing helmets. Other people say its stupid, but the way i look at it is: a space marine is someone that would totally expose their most critical weakness to the enemy, just to put the fear of the emperor into them. Or for any other religious or ego reason a space marine could come up with lol.
That’s a good point. I personally like the helmets just because I think they look cool, but you can’t deny it’d be intimidating to see a dude not wearing his helmet because he knows he’s not getting taken down🤣 Also thank you for watching! Hope you enjoyed the video
i headcanoned it as space marine super sense like a space marine can smell and feel the difference in air pressure and while marine do get good gear outside of the salamanders, ultra's, iron hands etc. and the rate they lose stc's most space marine chapters armor is just two parts of broken armor jury rigged to make one working one so maybe since if i had enough courage (which i don't) i would shoot for the head so maybe most helmets have breaking audio or vox equipment but the real reason is to look like a badass and sell models
I remember reading somewhere in a codex that the mini don't have helmet to help you recognize them, but that you can assume that the character is actually wearing their helmet in battle. Don't know if its still true (read that many years ago), but it made perfect sense to me.
3:09 Sir Erectus has arisen to battle, and is coming to our gates! Only Biggus Dickus would be an even match, but he is away on duty covering our rear!
To the Imperium, being human is very important. This can be seen by all the damn (human) skulls they got everywhere on their armour and in their iconography. Also in their distaste for the mutant. So having the most religious branch of their military accentuate their human form a bit more than normal seems plausible to me.
What always amuses me about the "boob armour" argument in general, not just 40K, is the fact the ancient Greeks and Romans had breast plates with huge pectorals and six packs. And you never hear anyone complaining about that!
Or about the ridiculous size of the codpieces on late medieval full plate harnesses which had no functional role. Even a horse would have difficulty flopping their man tackle out of those things to take a leak. And the most ridiculous thing about it is most of them are literally HINGED to suggest the wearer was doing exactly that! Its literally a game of 'look at the size of my wang' where everyone knows everyone is lying but they all do it anyway because... fashion!! The reason we never saw boob armour historically is simply because very little armour was made specifically for women. Had it been I am absolutely convinced that boob armour would most certainly have been a reality.
That is because you are watching a Flaming sword and ASUME all sword have flames. But nop, just that one Code pieaces, six pack armor, engraved armor, mask, etc. Where all almost 1 of a kind piece for RICH BRATS. They where not standar even LESS mass produce. That would be a fucking waste. Space marine armor is the same. Same armor mass produce, but colors, engravings, add on ane the like and put separatly by its user, IF they can and earn it.
My take: erotica is one of the crucial parts of John Blanche's art, who helped to bring SoB to life, and was a major influence on the development of 40k visual and symbolic languages. When he drew both male and female characters, especially high-standing bureaucracy, inquisition and all sorts of Imperial adventurers, it wasn't rare for him to include erotic elements, even some bdsm-coded undertones and a lot of the grotesque elements. I don't think that designers should give up the artistic integrity of what's left of the franchise before it succumbs to the inevitability of being watered down to appeal to the broadest audience possible. And it's an awesome design, and by that I mean it gives a recognizable profile, it stands out and it's appealing to those who actually gonna buy this stuff and whos opinions actually matter. And it doesn't have to make sense. Admechs literally make the most high tech rifles but also with the freaking wooden stocks, and their sniper stays on the freaking leg extensions for crying out loud. And Space Marine Chaplains stick pieces of paper for the good luck. And they find it easier to make an elevator switch out of a human by turning him into a servitor than to build a device that a science fair kid can build. And this is exactly the type of energy boob armor had, and part of the reason we love 40k.
Thank you for this. As much as I enjoyed the arguments made in the video, I feel like it didn't address the elephant in the room. People get upset about boob armor not because it's impractical. They get upset about it because it's boobs. Anything erotic or suggestive has the potential to attract angry comments - be it from "concerned" parents (fuck them), the sex-negative identity politics crowd (fuck them too), or the religious and conservative crowd (fuck 'em both ways). Saying that boob armor is "impractical" is just a stand-in, a cop-out, an attempt to find a different angle other than "I find human sexuality offensive". So I don't see how proving or disproving its practicality can address the issue. The designers and artists draw them this way because it's sexy. It's like adding a pinch of salt to your sweet pancake batter, or sprinkling a bit of pepper on your steak. It's by far not the main ingredient, but a spice that can vastly improve and deepen the flavor of the dish, when done right. If you don't like the resulting dish - just order something else. If you feel like you have the right to dictate whether or not others may pepper their steaks, or spice up their character designs - you need a therapist.
I'd agree. You covered the major points that I'd think of, so great job. I guess I would add that the Adeptus Sororitas aren't so much a standing military as being a security force for the Adeptus Ministorum. Yes, they can fight in battles, but they aren't a conventional military with all of the proper arms necessary to fight as an independent fighting force. I mean, they don't have the air support, artillery, or the logistical forces necessary to fight proper military campaigns. That's not really their job. Their job is to provide security for the Adeptus Ministorum's facilities: holy sites, churches, and for high ranking officials (who are assigned a security detachment of Sisters). That means that they are a highly visible force, so they must wear gear that impresses as well as being practical. Their very existence requires them to PROVE that they are a force of women, so boob armor it is. Their armor HAS to be very eye-catching, and it is very ceremonial (Seriously, these girls wear nothing that could be considered camoflauge! Their color schemes are EXTREMELY VISIBLE!). In real world terms they aren't "soldiers" like say a trooper in the 12th Cavalry Regiment, they are "honor guards" like the Swiss Guards at the Vatican, but more grim dark and ready to do some bloody business (which the old Swiss Guard was happy enough to do 200+ years ago!).
Thanks a lot! That’s an excellent point, I do think the sisters are at their most useful as a symbol of the ecclesiarchy’s might. I love the honor guard comparison, I think that makes a lot of sense Thanks again for your support and for watching the video!
Arguing practically in 40k is always weird, but people still love to do it. The endless arguments about how impractical and bad the Leman Russ tank is could fill entire volumes of books. Speaking of, maybe that could be your next talking point.
Oh man I certainly have a lot to say about the leman Russ. Imo the current model is one of the best of all time🤣 if they take away my impossibly large battle cannon I’ll be devastated. Thanks for watching!
There are also some sisters of battle who (if memory serves) as punishment will go into battle with nothing but strips of cloth, sigals, and other churchy kinda stuff with a giant chain sword.
A lot of people that complain about how titty armor would work seem to always assume the wearer would just stand there and take a blow to the chest Like bruh if they're trained to wear armor of any kind they're trained to step aside when a strike comes And, you know Sororitas use guns and flamethrowers before getting into melee range To be able to strike a sororitas in the titty to test the force distribution you kinda have to get past all the bolts and flame jets first
Honestly, I first got into Warhammer 40k because I thought the Sister of Battle on the Dawn of War: Soulstorm banner looked really cool. The armor they wear looks really cool to me and the stylized breastplate and all the skulls and flare really made it stand out.
4:00 "...examples of cool decorations that serves no purpose... " > show an image at bottom right of fluted armor with folds that sreve purpose of structural reinforcement :P
Are you proposing the creation of the Mama Ork Boys: Orks who believe that dressing up to look like females of other species will give them extra crumpin' power over males of that species? 😃 Mama Ork Boy: [Switching his hips, jiggling his breastplate, & winking all at once] " 'Ey li'l 'ummie, lemme giv' youse a li'l love crumpin' wiv me big chopper, big boy(♥️)!"😘
This debate always reminds me of a clip from the D&D art documentary where an old school woman gamer says she loved playing a beautiful and deadly femme fatale, and then it clips to Mark Rosewater saying “so we got rid of all of that.” 😂 Feminists truly hate women fr
The codpiece was legitimately practical though, it was the middle ground between plate armor faulds and mail skirts, it offered quality protection of the groin which was legitimately important but usually difficult to compromise between good protection of that area or important mobility, specifically for reasons of horse riding because you know, knights. The cod-piece offered reasonable mobility but with better protection than simple mail.
Thank so much! I appreciate the kind words. I just started the channel ~2 weeks ago, so I’m excited to see it grow and to put out videos people like. Thanks again for watching!
I remember seeing somewhere years ago that the corset over the power armour was a reference/ reminder of their origins as the 'Daughters of the Emperor' as they would have worn leather armour before they had power armour.
Amazing video. Besides all the points you touched, a few more: -female shaped armor (look at police vests) is a thing. Yes it's not boobplate but it does exist. I'd imagine it'd be if anything more critical with power armor. -for all the "practical" critiques of sister armor, it gets the biggest part right in that it covers everything. Bad boobplate armor leaves the wearers cleavage (and thus heart) exposed. Sister armor doesn't do that. -Especially in ancient cultures, looking impressive was a real serious important thing. Since 40k is what it is, this applies here.
Tests have actually shown that boob armour would have lost little in the way of protection. Yes, people have made period accurate replica late medieval plate boob armour and tested it. What it boils down to is if something could penetrate the armour between the boobs, it would usually penetrate more historical armour. There is a little loss in protection, but not really enough that most people would worry about it. In other words it was perfectly viable if properly made. I have long been of the opinion that the reason why we do not see boob armour in museums is because almost no armour was made for women. Fact is if men could demand ridiculously sized cod pieces that had no functional value on their armour for several centuries simply for fashion, then if armour had been regularly made for women during that period you WOULD have seen boob armour....
Thank you super! I love the sisters, if I didn’t have so many gray guardsmen I’d definitely get more! I’m glad you enjoyed the video, thank you for watching!
Whether the armor makes sense or not, it always comes back to those muscle cuirass, especially in fictional settings that seem to care about aesthetics..
I have heard from others that in earlier editions, (pre 8th edition to be specific, because with me getting into 40k & being a Sisters player in 8th, it isn't anything I personally know currently happening), the boobs of the armor housed explosives, most likely as a self destruct functionality or straight up detachable grenades.
I’m surprised he didn’t talk about the winged hussars- they are the definition are really fucking cool with little real reason(yes they made a little noise for scary effect, but come one), and we’re really great cav anyway
I remember coming across a fan art of a remembrancer drawing a Sister of Battle in armour. The joke was the actual sister was wearing rather bulky power armour, while the artwork was the classic 40k art.
Everyone forgot the most important aspect of the SoB. Faith! Their golden armor inspires faith, and any accessory like holy seals and incense balls improves the sisters morale and belief in the emperor. Boobs are a miracle.
Also it's important to not forget that it's 40k and things often aren't very practical in this universe, it just fits the over the top theme of the universe
Isn't it funny that the people that will call you a coomer for liking cute women tend to have their entire online presence as just an altar to human sexuality?
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words, I will definitely continue to make videos so stay tuned. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!
“Roman chest plates designed like a shirtless man is stupid and unrealistic” - things people who hate boobarmour don’t say despite having the same argument.
Well the Roman chest plates had a purpose they were designed to decrease morale for the enemies and to make the armor more comfortable for the people wearing it.
The biggest issue about pronounced boob armor is a solid hit to the breast plate will have all it's force directed into the wearer's sternum, which is not a very strong bone.
There are two types of sisters players. "Hell yeah!!! They're badass nuns with guns!" And " Man, I'm so glad they updated sisters, the old lore was gross" *Sets down carry case covered in near pornagraphic, anime girl stickers.* "A bunch of incel losers were probably mad they changed them." *opens his phone to pull up rules. It's lockscreen is a woman in a bikini.* "Ya know?" *opens browser but has a porn tab open, doesn't close the tab, but goes to his other tabs most of wich are porn, to get to the one with his rules.* "Probably a bunch if space marine players who don't know what it's like not to be taken seriously." *Opens carrycase, revealing a repentia squad with a white crusty residue in the nooks and granny's on the moddle.* "They'll definitely cry their eyes out when we finally get female space marines, hey have you watched dorohedoro? Noi is my favorite character?"
Haha I made a little spoof image from the boob alert scene. Most people seem to like the sisters for the e boobs or dislike them for the boobs. Anyways thank you for watching!
The funny thing is, I don't think the breast armour is particularly distracting in the first place. They're not even exaggerated, just a couple rounded plates above the corset. Honestly, I just think dual fleur de lis either side is a cool design.
that was real some shit you just said. hot armored women and badass armored men are what 40k's all about, abandon notions of practicality and utilitarianism for these are heresy, the only law in the grim dark future is the rule of cool.
Another thing about the grab points: Sisters of Battle are covered in grab points, even *without* the boob armor, because of all the decorations and ecclesiarchial bits.
Great video. There’s also an in-universe reason for the boob armor that most people don’t realize: The armor was commissioned and designed by Goge Vandire who used the sisters (called the brides of the emperor at the time) as his personal harem. So, it makes sense for it to look like that because it was designed by a pervy crazy despot.
That’s a good point! Plus we know how set in their ways the imperium is makes sense they wouldn’t change it haha. Thanks for watching!
Doge Vandire was "too busy to die" with his folder of feet pics when Alicia Dominica killed him
Yes, but also no. The Sisters of Silence also have boob plate and have since before the Heresy. If anything, the Sororatas armour is based off of the Null Maiden armour in the same way that Astarte armour is derived from Custodes armour.
My favorite fan-canon reason is so that even under armor they are distinguishable as feminine, as the Ecclesiarchy can have no men under arms. So they have boob armor to go "Yeah these are girls, it's okay, we are following The Rules™️"
@@moderndavinci6599 ya that’s the one I subscribe to. Classic Mr. Thor and his loopholes lol.
Always funny to see that the boob armor argument is always around Sororitas while no ones care that both kind of Aeldaries have it... Or that some factions just go to waaagh wearing a torn shirt XD
I think it's just more obvious with the Sisters because the entire army has it. But yeah, Howling Banshees might actually predate the Sisters in terms of when they were introduced to the game.
Yhe eldari are perverts
@@Draxynnic I think they predate the sisters in everything
@@Trayzentheinfinite In the WH40K chronology, Banshees as one of the first Aspect Warrior shrines definitely predate Sisters that only showed up a few thousand years after the Heresy. I just don't know enough about the really early game to be 100% sure that the Howling Banshees were introduced to the canon before any mention of the Sisters of Battle.
they could have had the basic trooper with flat armour and the women in charge with boob armour to show off.
Also everything in 40k revolves around the Rule of Cool. And Sisters of Battle are coolness incarnate
True! I think that’s the most important explanation for anything 40K, it’s because it’s cool.
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There's a lot of rule of cool in 40k designs, the dialogue about boob armour doesn't take into account that boobs are cool and therefore boob armour fits in the rule of cool
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No they aren't, they get in the way. And boob armor looks fuckinf stupid
@@NG-gy6iv cool and practical are different things, nothing in 40k is particularly practical
@katamattyon and boob armor is neither cool, nor practical
@@NG-gy6iv it is cool, that's why it's so common in fiction
As a woman the boob armor is awesome. Men get stylized armor all the time to accentuate their masculine features, women doing the same isn't a big deal.
Now historically irl it would have been more of an issue with the materials holding up to what they would likely encounter on the battlefield, and not accidentally deflecting a blade directly into your heart. But given the state of 40k, you'd be hard pressed to say that's a realistic or important thing to account for with their armor which is mostly there to protect against lasers and similar weapons, and where all the swords are chainsaws ironically making the boob plate less of a liability because of the lack of piercing potential.
Not to mention the whole problem is with more pronounced armor, which is only a consideration for named and important characters/officers who are clearly wearing it because it's more ceremonial and they are less likely to personally be on the front lines making the point moot. The standard armor given to normal Sisters of Battle barely have any bump, well within the realms of what is safe and practical even irl
(also idk how to explain this to the guys, but the boobs don't just squish down, having a little extra space is important to make sure they can actually breath in their armor and aren't slowly crushing their rib cage while doing high exertion activities like purging the heretical and xenos filth that plague Humanity's Galaxy. And as someone else pointed out, if you really want to talk about the armor being bad you're looking in entirely the wrong place, it's the horrifically inexcusable high heels that don't make any sense. Give these ladies some proper boots Emperor Damnit!!!)
Thank you. I support exactly this.
Only thing I think I would disagree with here is the whole "internal deflection" thing. Personally, I think it's highly exaggerated to the point of absurdity. That's not to say that it isn't sub-optimal, I just think that *certain* people on the internet overexaggerate the issues with it.
Looking at historical precedents, boob shaped armour could have easily existed if more women were knights. Ofc there were a few documented cases here and there, but the thing about armour is: It's not tightly fit to the body. They often wore thick leader underneath, multiple layers of clothes to dampen the force of the strike, and in case of penetration, or a hit between armour parts, to have more layers of safety. This meant that "conventional" male armour fit women just as much as it did men. Till this point, we're just talking about practicality. Now, if female knights were more common, bigger customizations for women or cultural shifts would have easily been possible, including armour mirroring the shape of women, perhaps idealized versions of the female human form, like often found in male armour.
Tldr.: Boob armour didn't exist because this is the way our culture and civilization happened to shape, but that doesn't make it unrealistic in a fantasy setting or a hypothetical history that just happened to unfold in a different direction.
I much prefer an armor that is clearly tailored to fit boobs but, not so super exaggerated.
in real life, there are examples of boob armour but for very rich women, as it takes a lot more work to make, so women would just ware the same as men but with a bigger chest size
To add to the importance of femininity for the Sororitas, I need enthasise just how important it is this idea of looking like a woman matters. The imperium practically worships all things human, and the purity of the human form is appart of this. The boob armor and corsets of sororitas armor isn't just there to say "I am a woman", its to scream "I am a beautiful woman and a pinnacle of the female human form!!" The irony is that the armor can ensure the sisters look the part of a perfect woman even if their actual bodies might not be so blessed, be it by poor genetics or the countless battle scars they accumulate. Thusly, removing the boob armor would be a huge insult to a sororitas as it claims that something is wrong with the female form at its peak. Its akin to saying the Emperor was somehow wrong in the gifts he granted humanity.
Let's remind that sororitas don't shy away from things like make-up. Their appearance very much matters to them.
Eh the last part depends on which group of sisters, some of them are really into the scars and whatnot, however even that does still count as caring about appearence just in a different more martyr-y way.
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Booba inspires faith
"Aesthetics are as important if not more so than effectiveness in combat as the Emperor Himself has obviously, OBVIOUSLY, O B V I O U S L Y decreed!" -Vulkan He'Stan, Best Forge Father
Indeed! You don’t just wear full golden plate without an eye for aesthetics. Thank you for watching!
Well boob armor fails at both fronts
@NG-gy6iv how so if the armor's main point is to fit to the wearer's form and protect vital points boobs are pretty vital
@@isiahalcindor6278Regular chest pieces like you see on knights are shaped that way as to absorb the force and impact of a blow so they can minimize damage to the internal organs. Adding a cleavage/"boob pocket" creates a weak point in the plate and there's less space for the force of an impact to spread, thus making the wearer more likely to taken out of combat if she's hit on the chest.
@lirima-hirumi did you not watch the same video I did? Krak Duk explains that point is moot because anything powerful enough to go through power armor is going to go through regardless and anything that needs that cleavage leverage won't get through power armor.
I've seen a few discussions regarding "boob armour" (in the context of breastplates with individual cups, not bikini armour, which is obviously not actual armour) from people who do have experience, and the general consensus is that it doesn't really make a significant difference to the protective qualities. Good quality plate is going to be good quality plate regardless, let alone power armour, and the cuirass is one of the toughest pieces by default - shot trap or not, any hit that can penetrate right at the centre of the cuirass can probably get through other parts of the armour far more easily. As long as there's proper padding beneath the armour (which there should be anyway) - it might theoretically be a little more vulnerable than a more conventionally shaped cuirass, but not enough to matter.
It'd be more expensive to shape the cuirass that way, and there's not really a benefit to doing so (breastplates normally have a bulge anyway, and moving the bulge up slightly wouldn't be too hard), but if the armorer really wanted to make sure it was obvious that the wearer was a woman (or wanted to be seen as one), there's really not anything significant to be lost from shaping a cuirass that way. And the Ecclesiarchy armorers really don't want anyone mistaking the Sisters for men under arms.
Exactly, and there is historical precedent as well. Look at the ridiculous codpieces on late medieval full plate harnesses. They served no functional role, many were even hinged to suggest the wearer was taking leaks out of the thing even though both size and armour and padding layout made such a thing impossible. It was a case of exaggerating penis size, everyone knew everyone was lying but they all did it anyway because it was the fashion.
If men did that for literal centuries then I feel that had more armour been made for women specifically we WOULD see examples of boob armour in museums. The reason we do not is not because it would not have been done, or significantly affects the protection of the armour, but simply because very little armour was made specifically for women.... And none that may have been survives....
I don't think you know how armour works. The problem isn't that it's going to get pierced, the problem is blunt force trauma. And such a shape makes a plate especially voulnrable to such blunt force trauma. Just imagine you're swinging a warhammer at a steel plate. If you were to swing it at a plate with a regular shape (a very slight curve without any pertrusions) you might make a bit of a dent in it, but all in all, it would still somewhat hold up. Now imagine you're swinging at a plate with a boob shaped pertrusion. That pertrusion would get squished. Not ideal, right?
And then you have the issue of padding. A regular plate is fine to pad, but a boob-plate? How would you even fit any significant padding into there? Especially with the designs you see for a lot of the sororitas, unless they're all A cups, that armour is basically right on the skin.
@@jojomaster7675 That's the common argument. It doesn't hold up. Plate made from good materials is more solid than you think - the difference in shape has an extremely small chance of being the reason that armour gets caved in. Additionally, 40K power armour is supposed to be light-years ahead of steel plate in the material science side of things. Padding is also doable. It's been done. Broadly speaking, in practice the boob-plate is decorative with the padding underneath being similar to what it would be with a conventional breastplate, similar to how codpiece armour doesn't actually involve slipping the relevant appendage into the codpiece.
As for making detailed analysis of the proportions of the miniatures to assess how skintight or otherwise the power armour must be... Games Workshop's sculpts have always had a few problems with proportions when you look closely at them. It's basically impossible for power armour to actually be skintight, although to be fair the "power" aspects of the power armour might be fairly minimal around the chest plate since that's not an area that moves a lot.
@@Draxynnic It's not as negligable as you make it out to be. Any kind of significant bend will severly decrease a plate's integrity, as whatever's past the bend will receive very little structural support from the plate before it. And as far as power armour being more powerful than steel - while you are right, you seem to be forgetting that weapons and opponents are a good bit stronger as well, so in the end, it doesn't matter.
And what you described with the padding doesn't quite work, as you still need to fit the boobs somewhere. So if you were to make a traditional plate and then put on the rest as decorations (provided the woman wearing it isn't completely flat), you would end up with a very odd and imbalanced looking armour with extremely unnatural proportions and not at all what is commonly shown for the sororitas. You do actually need to shape the armour with the boobs in mind (just not like what is done here) and not just make a regular plate and then put decorative steel bits on top of that.
Imo, it would be much better to make a unified space for both boobs. It would still make the sororitas look feminine, but wouldn't be nearly as detrimental to it's function.
@@jojomaster7675 The shape of the breastplate doesn't affect the ability of the armour to resist blunt force as much as you think it does. Something that will cave in a boob plate will probably also cave in a regular cuirass the majority of the time anyway. People have done the tests. As for the 41st millennium - weapons are stronger, yes, but they're mostly stronger through the use of energy fields, heat, or increased cutting potential to get through armour, not by increased percussive force. I'm sure there are exceptions, but again, there's going to be a fairly narrow range of impact force where the boob plate actually matters.
Also, women who have worn armour are mostly able to fit their chest into a regular-shaped cuirass. Usually the front of the cuirass is a fair way out from the sternum even on a man, and then an arming doublet is worn in between which is fairly padded anyway, and when the woman isn't interested in showing off, chests can normally be flattened a fair amount without being uncomfortable (can happen naturally when a woman is lying on her back without a bra, in fact). Someone who's particularly well-endowed might need to make allowances, but the same allowances would be made for the padded garment underneath as well.
So, most of the time, the boob plate is going to be decorative, just like codpiece armour, and when it's not, it's as large as it is because it's accommodating not just the (probably still squished down quite a bit) breasts, but also the arming doublet or 40K equivalent as well.
And again, pointing at the precise proportions of the models is ignoring the reality that a number of proportions are often distorted with models of that scale due to the practicalities involved. I have fantasy models from back in the day where a model's hands are about the size of their heads, and without the excuse of being power enhanced gauntlets or the like. I hope I don't need to tell you that's not how large hands really are, but they kinda needed to be in order to have enough detail to be recognisable as hands in the first place. Similarly, the heads of most hafted weapons are, in reality, smaller than the actual head of the wielder because that's what's actually practical when it comes to weight distributions, but if the weapons were properly scaled, they'd be spindly little things that'd break off at a slight knock. The models are intended to be representative, with certain features exaggerated so you can see them at the scale, not a perfect representation.
In reality, even following the principle of wanting to make sure people knew these were female soldiers, the bumps on the armour would probably only stick out about an inch or two from where the surface of the armour would be otherwise. But on the 25mm scale, that would be almost unnoticeable, so it's exaggerated. It's far from the only thing that's exaggerated in Warhammer models.
Mini’s are pretty small and it’s hard to tell male from female unless they have boob armour. Without it they’re just skinny guys with somewhat feminine heads tacked on.
Yes, I agree. I think that works out for the guard, but for the sisters having more exaggeration works well imo. Thank you for watching!
And honestly you can't really tell the difference at tabletop distance. A trooper in armor with a rifle looks the same be they male or female. Men are just larger versions. "boob armor" is an aesthetic thing, and the "nuns with guns" is a fetish thing from the 80's/90's. However armor that shows off physical features isn't a new thing. The Romans and Greeks wore breast plates that imitated ideals in masculine appearance and were reasonably effective as body armor.
femboy characters in 40k when
@@Freakyminosprime Ask Slaanesh.
@@TheFifthHorseman_Allo Slannesh, Femboys In 40K When?
A nicely balanced video.
When i think about it the armour of the Emperors 'Imperial Truth' Imperium should probably have been more ultilitarian in the 30k period, all dull practical armour with little flair, while the 40k era, driven by its faith and passion for ceremony, is naturally filled with elaborate, baroque gothic fashions.
People get mad when sisters have boob armor but no one bats an eye when Blood angles have nipple and abs shaped armor.
Lmao I love the sanguinary guard. Wouldn’t want all the marines to have the look, but thematically the sculpted muscles fit the sanguinary guard so well imo.
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Aye the blood angels definitely have a cool unique gothic aesthetic. I'm more of a Dark Angels guy myself I just love the monk robes over power armor look.
For me at least, isn’t that the sister have boob armor, but that they ONLY have boob armor.
Also, I just prefer women in not boob armor in general and they are other way of making armor feminine that just look cooler.
@@Mastercheap kit bashing exists also women in 40k dont just have boob armor look at female commissars and guardsmen they have the same armor as the men.
@@GutsOfRivia I mean, I was talking about the sister of battle specifically. Not the guard, who are cool by the way.
Frankly, I am not even against all types of boob armor, has long has it doesn’t have a gap in between the boob and cover the body, then I am fine with it.
I just think that boob armor (the one with the gap) just doesn’t look has cool and badass has not boob. Maybe if it has abs, it could work.
I also don’t collect minis because I know how much they cost, I don’t always have the best control on my money, don’t have a job and I am also a cheap bastard, so while I would like to collect them and kitbash them, I won’t for a while.
Kitbashing would also not change warhammer art of the sister of battle.
Sorry for the long reply or if some part don’t make sense by the way, It is about midnight has I am finishing it.
The practically point of view falls flat when you remember this is Warhammer 40,000, the faction that gets put on all the posters literally cannot raise their arms due to comically large pauldrons. Being practical was never the intent.
Casual 40k fan here The universe of 40k is is not subtle when it comes to visual storytelling.
Your senses take information as if it project into your mind like the corrupting influence of Chaos.
Haha, most things in 40K aren’t very subtle…
Anyways thank you for watching, I really appreciate it!
These... are compelling arguments. You won me over.
Thanks a lot haha, just wanted to put some of my thoughts on the subject out there and hopefully entertain some folks as well. Thanks for watching the video!
This is similar to how i feel about space marines not wearing helmets.
Other people say its stupid, but the way i look at it is: a space marine is someone that would totally expose their most critical weakness to the enemy, just to put the fear of the emperor into them. Or for any other religious or ego reason a space marine could come up with lol.
That’s a good point. I personally like the helmets just because I think they look cool, but you can’t deny it’d be intimidating to see a dude not wearing his helmet because he knows he’s not getting taken down🤣
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i headcanoned it as space marine super sense like a space marine can smell and feel the difference in air pressure and while marine do get good gear outside of the salamanders, ultra's, iron hands etc. and the rate they lose stc's most space marine chapters armor is just two parts of broken armor jury rigged to make one working one so maybe since if i had enough courage (which i don't) i would shoot for the head so maybe most helmets have breaking audio or vox equipment but the real reason is to look like a badass and sell models
@@zombieslasher134 The Spacewolves Books lean pretty heavy into this argument. So it makes sense.
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It also makes it easier to spit acid, which is a thing I always forget they do because I don't really see it mentioned much
I remember reading somewhere in a codex that the mini don't have helmet to help you recognize them, but that you can assume that the character is actually wearing their helmet in battle. Don't know if its still true (read that many years ago), but it made perfect sense to me.
3:09 Sir Erectus has arisen to battle, and is coming to our gates!
Only Biggus Dickus would be an even match, but he is away on duty covering our rear!
don't question it it's Warhammer this is the same setting where magic green mushroom men make spaceships out of actual piles of garbage
True, to me rule of cool trumps all
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Which has nothing to do with the only actual reason: Widdle boys defending boobies in their toy soldiers
I don't think we're going far enough, I'm thinking of the blue body paint armor of the Britons.
There literally used to be a guardsmen regiment whose uniform is literally just Woad. The Woad Warriors.
As a blood angels player I think that there should be more glorious abb armor
I agree! Muscles are badass lmao. Thank you for watching!
Man, that's the one thing about BA that I DON'T like
To the Imperium, being human is very important. This can be seen by all the damn (human) skulls they got everywhere on their armour and in their iconography. Also in their distaste for the mutant. So having the most religious branch of their military accentuate their human form a bit more than normal seems plausible to me.
Humanity as in their physical humanity the imperium has long abandoned what we classify as humanity our empathy
What always amuses me about the "boob armour" argument in general, not just 40K, is the fact the ancient Greeks and Romans had breast plates with huge pectorals and six packs. And you never hear anyone complaining about that!
Or about the ridiculous size of the codpieces on late medieval full plate harnesses which had no functional role. Even a horse would have difficulty flopping their man tackle out of those things to take a leak. And the most ridiculous thing about it is most of them are literally HINGED to suggest the wearer was doing exactly that! Its literally a game of 'look at the size of my wang' where everyone knows everyone is lying but they all do it anyway because... fashion!!
The reason we never saw boob armour historically is simply because very little armour was made specifically for women. Had it been I am absolutely convinced that boob armour would most certainly have been a reality.
yeah cause they're dead
the ones who would complain i mean
That is because you are watching a Flaming sword and ASUME all sword have flames.
But nop, just that one
Code pieaces, six pack armor, engraved armor, mask, etc.
Where all almost 1 of a kind piece for RICH BRATS.
They where not standar even LESS mass produce.
That would be a fucking waste.
Space marine armor is the same.
Same armor mass produce, but colors, engravings, add on ane the like and put separatly by its user, IF they can and earn it.
"Sisters of Battle armor is impractical!"
Meanwhile the Imperium is over here putting cathedrals on their mechs and buttresses on their spaceships.
My take: erotica is one of the crucial parts of John Blanche's art, who helped to bring SoB to life, and was a major influence on the development of 40k visual and symbolic languages. When he drew both male and female characters, especially high-standing bureaucracy, inquisition and all sorts of Imperial adventurers, it wasn't rare for him to include erotic elements, even some bdsm-coded undertones and a lot of the grotesque elements. I don't think that designers should give up the artistic integrity of what's left of the franchise before it succumbs to the inevitability of being watered down to appeal to the broadest audience possible.
And it's an awesome design, and by that I mean it gives a recognizable profile, it stands out and it's appealing to those who actually gonna buy this stuff and whos opinions actually matter.
And it doesn't have to make sense. Admechs literally make the most high tech rifles but also with the freaking wooden stocks, and their sniper stays on the freaking leg extensions for crying out loud. And Space Marine Chaplains stick pieces of paper for the good luck. And they find it easier to make an elevator switch out of a human by turning him into a servitor than to build a device that a science fair kid can build. And this is exactly the type of energy boob armor had, and part of the reason we love 40k.
Thank you for this. As much as I enjoyed the arguments made in the video, I feel like it didn't address the elephant in the room. People get upset about boob armor not because it's impractical. They get upset about it because it's boobs.
Anything erotic or suggestive has the potential to attract angry comments - be it from "concerned" parents (fuck them), the sex-negative identity politics crowd (fuck them too), or the religious and conservative crowd (fuck 'em both ways).
Saying that boob armor is "impractical" is just a stand-in, a cop-out, an attempt to find a different angle other than "I find human sexuality offensive". So I don't see how proving or disproving its practicality can address the issue.
The designers and artists draw them this way because it's sexy. It's like adding a pinch of salt to your sweet pancake batter, or sprinkling a bit of pepper on your steak. It's by far not the main ingredient, but a spice that can vastly improve and deepen the flavor of the dish, when done right.
If you don't like the resulting dish - just order something else. If you feel like you have the right to dictate whether or not others may pepper their steaks, or spice up their character designs - you need a therapist.
I'd agree. You covered the major points that I'd think of, so great job. I guess I would add that the Adeptus Sororitas aren't so much a standing military as being a security force for the Adeptus Ministorum. Yes, they can fight in battles, but they aren't a conventional military with all of the proper arms necessary to fight as an independent fighting force. I mean, they don't have the air support, artillery, or the logistical forces necessary to fight proper military campaigns. That's not really their job. Their job is to provide security for the Adeptus Ministorum's facilities: holy sites, churches, and for high ranking officials (who are assigned a security detachment of Sisters). That means that they are a highly visible force, so they must wear gear that impresses as well as being practical. Their very existence requires them to PROVE that they are a force of women, so boob armor it is. Their armor HAS to be very eye-catching, and it is very ceremonial (Seriously, these girls wear nothing that could be considered camoflauge! Their color schemes are EXTREMELY VISIBLE!). In real world terms they aren't "soldiers" like say a trooper in the 12th Cavalry Regiment, they are "honor guards" like the Swiss Guards at the Vatican, but more grim dark and ready to do some bloody business (which the old Swiss Guard was happy enough to do 200+ years ago!).
Thanks a lot! That’s an excellent point, I do think the sisters are at their most useful as a symbol of the ecclesiarchy’s might. I love the honor guard comparison, I think that makes a lot of sense
Thanks again for your support and for watching the video!
Arguing practically in 40k is always weird, but people still love to do it. The endless arguments about how impractical and bad the Leman Russ tank is could fill entire volumes of books. Speaking of, maybe that could be your next talking point.
Oh man I certainly have a lot to say about the leman Russ. Imo the current model is one of the best of all time🤣 if they take away my impossibly large battle cannon I’ll be devastated.
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Come on ppl, half the Space Marines don't even wear their helmets. Who's out there criticizing the "weak points" of boob armor?!?
Always more protection to essential places because unlike Astarted or Bastardes they reproduce
There are also some sisters of battle who (if memory serves) as punishment will go into battle with nothing but strips of cloth, sigals, and other churchy kinda stuff with a giant chain sword.
Yep, those are the Repentia.
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Idk if you were making a 2003 clone wars animated series reference with the 1 knight but but if so that is a DEEP cut
@@rustyshackleford9841 lol I was. I love that show
This makes me appreciate the Sister of Battle even more.
A lot of people that complain about how titty armor would work seem to always assume the wearer would just stand there and take a blow to the chest
Like bruh if they're trained to wear armor of any kind they're trained to step aside when a strike comes
And, you know
Sororitas use guns and flamethrowers before getting into melee range
To be able to strike a sororitas in the titty to test the force distribution you kinda have to get past all the bolts and flame jets first
Dude I love the Artwork and as always the content is on point!
Thank you very much!
Yeah I definitely like SoB girl design. She is so cute
Yeah, I like the SoB girl art. She is so cute.
Honestly, I first got into Warhammer 40k because I thought the Sister of Battle on the Dawn of War: Soulstorm banner looked really cool. The armor they wear looks really cool to me and the stylized breastplate and all the skulls and flare really made it stand out.
4:00 "...examples of cool decorations that serves no purpose... " > show an image at bottom right of fluted armor with folds that sreve purpose of structural reinforcement :P
I love your little guardsman avatar its adorable.
Thank you! My girlfriend calls him spoon head haha. I appreciate you watching
I love the idea of orcs having boob armour that makes them actually more tough thanks to their belief power
Are you proposing the creation of the Mama Ork Boys: Orks who believe that dressing up to look like females of other species will give them extra crumpin' power over males of that species? 😃
Mama Ork Boy: [Switching his hips, jiggling his breastplate, & winking all at once] " 'Ey li'l 'ummie, lemme giv' youse a li'l love crumpin' wiv me big chopper, big boy(♥️)!"😘
Yo the 2D Clone Wars part 2 reference at the beginning of the video is epic
This is one of, if not the best 40k I've ever seen!
7:10 I *dare* a heretic to try grabbing one of those points.
A single Sister of Battle in boob armor is better for a Guardsmans morale than a a dozen commissars.
Boobs are better for moral then bullets.
Boobs are better moral then a bullets
1:40 perfect armor for commoragh. **WINK, WINK**
Oh yes classic Dhrukhari battle garb😳
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This debate always reminds me of a clip from the D&D art documentary where an old school woman gamer says she loved playing a beautiful and deadly femme fatale, and then it clips to Mark Rosewater saying “so we got rid of all of that.” 😂 Feminists truly hate women fr
Self-hating mysoginists heh ironic.
The codpiece was legitimately practical though, it was the middle ground between plate armor faulds and mail skirts, it offered quality protection of the groin which was legitimately important but usually difficult to compromise between good protection of that area or important mobility, specifically for reasons of horse riding because you know, knights. The cod-piece offered reasonable mobility but with better protection than simple mail.
How come i didn't heard of that channel before, it's incredible
Thank so much! I appreciate the kind words. I just started the channel ~2 weeks ago, so I’m excited to see it grow and to put out videos people like.
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Honestly the fact their armor has stiletto heels built in is the bigger issue
I’d really love to see a Sisters of Battle lore explained with like, all the factions and or St Celestine
I remember seeing somewhere years ago that the corset over the power armour was a reference/ reminder of their origins as the 'Daughters of the Emperor' as they would have worn leather armour before they had power armour.
What I can't wrap my head around is the armored high heels. That 'Cannot' be practical when you're stepping about a rubble strewn battlefield.
Chicks do weird things man.
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Ork: “Iz da prettiest of demz all.”
Amazing video. Besides all the points you touched, a few more:
-female shaped armor (look at police vests) is a thing. Yes it's not boobplate but it does exist. I'd imagine it'd be if anything more critical with power armor.
-for all the "practical" critiques of sister armor, it gets the biggest part right in that it covers everything. Bad boobplate armor leaves the wearers cleavage (and thus heart) exposed. Sister armor doesn't do that.
-Especially in ancient cultures, looking impressive was a real serious important thing. Since 40k is what it is, this applies here.
Tests have actually shown that boob armour would have lost little in the way of protection. Yes, people have made period accurate replica late medieval plate boob armour and tested it. What it boils down to is if something could penetrate the armour between the boobs, it would usually penetrate more historical armour. There is a little loss in protection, but not really enough that most people would worry about it.
In other words it was perfectly viable if properly made. I have long been of the opinion that the reason why we do not see boob armour in museums is because almost no armour was made for women. Fact is if men could demand ridiculously sized cod pieces that had no functional value on their armour for several centuries simply for fashion, then if armour had been regularly made for women during that period you WOULD have seen boob armour....
joooo, the art is cute!
Haha thank you! I love warhammer and drawing silly little guys. I appreciate you watching
There’s also the fact that progress is frowned upon: the armor was originally created like that and by the emperor its going to stay that way!
great video, much love from this sisters player! just discovered your channel and i love the vibes 💕
Thank you super! I love the sisters, if I didn’t have so many gray guardsmen I’d definitely get more! I’m glad you enjoyed the video, thank you for watching!
There’s also a ton of cases of the imperium choosing drip over practicality
The stray 2003 clone wars reference was fantastic.
Respect, dude animated this video with only one hand while his eyes were analysing the lore
2:44
Goated '03 Clone Wars reference
Whether the armor makes sense or not, it always comes back to those muscle cuirass, especially in fictional settings that seem to care about aesthetics..
I like these animation things, it’s a great way to tell lore, you should do more of the big events and more animations, overall good job
i knew which armour he was talking about, i was just waiting for him to show it hahaha
I have heard from others that in earlier editions, (pre 8th edition to be specific, because with me getting into 40k & being a Sisters player in 8th, it isn't anything I personally know currently happening), the boobs of the armor housed explosives, most likely as a self destruct functionality or straight up detachable grenades.
My wife plays sister of battle and loves the look. If they got rid of that she would have little reason to play.
I’m surprised he didn’t talk about the winged hussars- they are the definition are really fucking cool with little real reason(yes they made a little noise for scary effect, but come one), and we’re really great cav anyway
You missed the "wasp waist", major example of medieval impractical drip
You forgot about their religious faith in a 10ft talk "dead" superhuman giving them space magic protection.
True, I tried touching upon that a bit with the power of belief but, but I shoulda went a bit deeper on it. Thank you for watching!
at the 3:58 I was going to say hay that's fluting on the lower right example and its useful and then I saw the mustache lol. great video.
Codpieces: "Gaze upon my mighty girth!"
I remember coming across a fan art of a remembrancer drawing a Sister of Battle in armour. The joke was the actual sister was wearing rather bulky power armour, while the artwork was the classic 40k art.
Everyone forgot the most important aspect of the SoB.
Faith!
Their golden armor inspires faith, and any accessory like holy seals and incense balls improves the sisters morale and belief in the emperor.
Boobs are a miracle.
The problem is when they’re drawn without pants/ exposed thighs- they’d bleed out
Also it's important to not forget that it's 40k and things often aren't very practical in this universe, it just fits the over the top theme of the universe
I like how this video came out during an eclipse
Gotta protect the holy honkers
Samuel'o'nellius up here making the best vox videos of the emperors brides
Oh no you found my main inspiration, my cover is blown🤣. Thank you for watching the video though!
Isn't it funny that the people that will call you a coomer for liking cute women tend to have their entire online presence as just an altar to human sexuality?
Huh?
What?
Most coomers will call coomers others to hide they are terminal coomers.
@anderelamaro3815 Well, the thing is, sisters of battle shouldn't be cute or sexy. They should be badass warriors
@@NG-gy6iv
Are you claiming that a cute woman can't be badass?
Can we address the fact that the entire Imperial Guard has boob armor?(They have two squares on their chest piece)
Another reason the guard is #1
Imma sub before you become a mainstream channel
Thank you so much! I hope your right haha, glad you enjoy the video!
I can excuse giant-church-shape-tanks equipped with flamethrowers, but I draw the line at boob armor
Did we also forget that they were also originally called the bridies of the Emperor, hence the corset power armour
wow, would you look at that? I have found an incredible, small creator. You sir have my support let's go!
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words, I will definitely continue to make videos so stay tuned. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!
I also like how the Sisters armor is sexy looking but they also not completely over the top like alot of proxies I've seen.
Great video also I love the Star Wars Clone Wars 2003 reference at 3:00
“Roman chest plates designed like a shirtless man is stupid and unrealistic” - things people who hate boobarmour don’t say despite having the same argument.
Well the Roman chest plates had a purpose they were designed to decrease morale for the enemies and to make the armor more comfortable for the people wearing it.
One of my favorite quotes about the armor from the guard is “they come in two sizes, too big or too small”
I want Space Wolves with Boob Armor.
That
Will
Be
PERFECTION
I played W40K 3rd Edition.
I chose the Sisters Of Battle as my First Army because ...
• All-Female Combat Unit
• Basic Army List
The Basic Army List was the Main Downfall of the Sisters Of Battle for me.
The Sisters Of Battle were basically ignored by GDW; while, every other W40K Army had Multiple Upgrades during the ©1999 Third Edition run.
However, my W40K Combat Style was actually Imperial Guard.
When the "Second Book Of The Astronomican" came out, I started perfecting my own Sisters Of Battle Codex; which, included creating Custom Designed Vehicles.
My Sisters Of Battle Army is called "The White Flame"; which, is representative of the devotion that my Adeptus Sororitas Order has to The Immortal Emperor.
I am of the belief that the Large Boob Armor Structure is actually practical in terms of Armor Construction.
WARHAMMER 40,000 is an Age Of War; and, Life has no meaning outside of Warfare.
Therefore, Mass production of Power Armor with 1 Boob Size Fits All is more efficient than having Power Armor for 5 Different Boob Sizes and a ?6? Different Boob Shapes.
I am Generation-X; and, I am X-Rated.
The biggest issue about pronounced boob armor is a solid hit to the breast plate will have all it's force directed into the wearer's sternum, which is not a very strong bone.
great video, really like your artstyle too
Thank you very much! I’m glad you enjoyed the video
Holy
Look at the size of them
- Guardsman
There are two types of sisters players.
"Hell yeah!!! They're badass nuns with guns!"
And
" Man, I'm so glad they updated sisters, the old lore was gross" *Sets down carry case covered in near pornagraphic, anime girl stickers.* "A bunch of incel losers were probably mad they changed them." *opens his phone to pull up rules. It's lockscreen is a woman in a bikini.*
"Ya know?" *opens browser but has a porn tab open, doesn't close the tab, but goes to his other tabs most of wich are porn, to get to the one with his rules.*
"Probably a bunch if space marine players who don't know what it's like not to be taken seriously."
*Opens carrycase, revealing a repentia squad with a white crusty residue in the nooks and granny's on the moddle.*
"They'll definitely cry their eyes out when we finally get female space marines, hey have you watched dorohedoro? Noi is my favorite character?"
Haha I made a little spoof image from the boob alert scene. Most people seem to like the sisters for the e boobs or dislike them for the boobs. Anyways thank you for watching!
I think that's just the one person, my dude
@@NG-gy6iv it's at least two. I kinda combined them both but they are pretty much the same person.
@mahoganydoughnut6082 dude i just want them to actually look cool, i dont do that weird shit
@@NG-gy6iv congratulations you're the fist guy.
7:07 thanks, these would be the things id think about
The funny thing is, I don't think the breast armour is particularly distracting in the first place. They're not even exaggerated, just a couple rounded plates above the corset. Honestly, I just think dual fleur de lis either side is a cool design.
8:46 I love the Jeanstealer so much! :D
Getting rid of boob armor is like getting rid of Space Marine shoulders.
It is heretical and only those with weak Torso’s wish to change it.
that was real some shit you just said.
hot armored women and badass armored men are what 40k's all about, abandon notions of practicality and utilitarianism for these are heresy, the only law in the grim dark future is the rule of cool.
I had always thought that whether something makes sense is the least important question in WH40K.
QUICK GET THE NEVER GOON EDIT
"a passionate stroke...of the blade!" 💀🤣 Elite content
10:15 ...nurgle
Nah this channel is golden 🤣 I wasn’t expecting that armor lore with an “extra sword”
Another thing about the grab points: Sisters of Battle are covered in grab points, even *without* the boob armor, because of all the decorations and ecclesiarchial bits.
KrakDuck has Myocarditis confirmed. 😂😂