How To Successfully Taper Off Of Suboxone: My Exact Blueprint Along With The DO's And DON'Ts
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I did a major mistake when i first started tapering.I did it cold turkey from 8mg to 0mg. I had horrific withdrawal, but this time, i tapered slower and in a longer period of time. And i got it! 6months sober here and hitting the gym hard! Thanks for posting your videos, these videos help people get sober! Awesome video again.
Have you been sleeping ok? Thats what was killing me when I tried cold turkey. I haven't felt sick like a actual with drawl but I been having horrible insomnia. And restless leg syndrome.
How did you do it? And how long?
Lol imagine me, first time doing it, was going to a clinic, didn't realize it was equally as awful, knew it would suck but not as much as tar..went from 12mg for 10 days to 4mg one day and 2mg and 2mg , let's just say day 14, when I was in a different city than the clinic, yeah I relapsed 2 days later. I stood zero chance.
How are you still doing? I could use help
I’m stopping at 2 mags after taking for 3 months how bad you think it will be I am on day two with no withdrawals that I notice really maybe slight fatigue but I also smoke weed to manage pain and insomnia
Remember, withdrawal symptons are the only way for your receptors to desensitize themselves. Theres no way around it. Do it slow or do it fast, either way, when ur feeling sick, your healing.
🙏 ty. Feels like it's going to last forever.. in the middle of it. N hate it. This makes me optimistic
The stress withdrawal sub relief thing is legit. I've woken up gone 2 or 3 hours, feel fine, realize I hadn't taken medication.. then within minutes, instant withdrawal symptoms? I know it's all in my head. Buy it just shows how powerful your brain is
Same problem. But its not just in my head. Out of in an instant second , my body goes wild and wont stop till i take suboxom again. Cant stand it , tired and sick of it
Yup. I know a girl who started putting melatonin under her tongue and it triggered her brain to think she had taken her dose. She felt fine after so she did this for about a week off & on
Same bro
Agree, I’m using a doc now thank god but b4 when buying else where I would b out couple days and finally find some b feeling back sweating all that good shit and just bein on the way to get them b feeling better lol weird ain’t it
@@jkmsr3869 yes I so relate, I remember when I was still using H, I’d be in with-drawl and the second the dealer was on his way to my house I’d start to feel better.
I find it hilarious that addicts know more about this medication than doctors!
There is a reason that addicts run the best support programs for other addicts. No one can understand an addict except other ones.
Same thing with benzos. Most doctors think they're harmless, but they're worse than opiates long term.
Benzo WDs are BRUTAL
@@burf4963 I had seizures and broke my front teeth during a had one coming off benzos. I also take suboxone for 9 years . I take 1 a day spit up into 2 doses typically. Tell me why I got arrested went to jail had withdraws for 2 months. My muscles ached so bad I lived in the shower. Horrible. I pray all y'all get off these.
Lol that’s how it always is! Ha! Great point tho...
I am a nurse, and I sometimes work in detox and just last week dealt with a patient taking Suboxone. I think I gave him some good advice, but wish I had seen this first. Your process is the way to go. Some of these doctors, just
are not advising their patients correctly and causing them to feel horrible and continue taking it when they want to taper off. Thank you so much for doing this video! Great job!
Thank you for being a good nurse. My doctor wouldn’t help me get off it i had to self taper. Now I’m all the way down to 1.7mg to 2mg a day
Absolutely. My doctor made me feel that way. I am currently trying to find another doctor to help me get off of suboxone. My current doctor is no help at all when I tell her I want to get off suboxone.
Your totally correct because every time I told my doc I want get off her replay was oh your body needs it ! Like what kind of advice is that
I just watched a Doctor for 45 mins basically say you'll need to be on it forever because tapering doesn't work!
@@onazram1 don’t listen to him I was on in for 4 years I have been clean for 30 days best days of life are to come trust me it’s possible it just depends on how much and how bad you want it
Even tho I tapered down to 1 mg for 5 months I still had the worst withdrawal for 8 days after that I was sleeping fine and kinda got better daily
I think a huge part of this is changing your *relationship* with meds (and drugs). You have to remember that you are on subs to allow you to change the way you treat medication.
When you decide to taper (.25mg for example), you will focus on the ‘lack’ of what you’ve got. Rather, if you approach it like “I’m doing this specifically because I’m proving I don’t need this,” then that psychological withdrawal will turn to a decision, not a fight.
Take the ‘disease’ out of addiction and add the choice back in. After all, that is what subs give you the chance to realize. Seize it. And do it SLOW for the love of god. This is not a sprint. Use this time to train your brain *over time* that you have control. Each time you do this, you will build strong receptors that overtake your impulses and give you a strong reward of confidence. Withdrawal occurs mainly because you’re focusing so much on what you’re not getting rather than what you ARE getting back.
Hi. I know that I don’t know you, but your comment really helped me. I’ve been on subs for about two years, started with 12mg then tapered to 8 and tomorrow I will be requesting I get lowered down to 4. I was really stressing about it, but reading your comment really helped me. So thank you 🙏
That’s deep
I’m sorry but that last part about withdrawal happens when you focus on what you’re not getting is absolutely ridiculous. Maybe if you’re barely on this stuff but if you’ve been on it for years you’re gonna feel like shit sometimes if you cut the meds too fast or go cold turkey- regardless of focusing on what you’re getting back lol. It’s like saying when you’re freezing to death in the arctic you’re actually only dying because you’re focusing on how cold it is 😂
@@Wweactionfigures45 how you been doing since then? Did you taper down to 4?
A great resource for changing your perspective from "addiction is a disease" to "addiction is an attempt to reduce human suffering short-term knowing long-term you're causing great damage" is Dr Gabor Mate!!! He changed my life almost as much as Jordan Peterson!!
Been on them for 2 years and I know the time is coming soon to be done with them! This video was good timing thank you!
Thats awesome Cindy! Best of luck and keep us posted on how you're doing!
So am i @cindy its time , 2 years to long ... Everyone has a Theory or Remedy or guideline on how to do this but like my OG told me the only way to do it is to do it. Point Blank plain and simple. Do not do it alone and make sure that you can get the someone either on the phone family member close loved one support system that is close by.
Make it a priority to taper ASAP Trust me!!! Get your mind and body in great shape before you do it.
@@jimparsons4312 Thank You for the great advice.
@@jimparsons4312 That totally makes sense. Something I have to do before I taper. Thank you!!
So I just wanna say I never thought I would be off of Suboxone until I found your video, I had zero hope. I follow the program to the letter and I’m proud to say I’m 5 days without it after I took my last .25mg, I’m not gonna say it was a walk in the park ( I only stayed on the .25 for a week before I came off) there was hardly any withdrawal symptoms, drastically different feeling even from .50mg, taper down is key, also like he says don’t take your dose when your feeling bad because the mind is powerful and will make you think you need something when you really don’t. I would suggest if you start feeling bad instead of going straight to the dose go take a hot shower and relax then when you get out take the dose, that way when you start feeling bad just go take a shower first so your not linking the bad feeling to take the dose rather it’ll be a hot shower which will help with body aches and restlessness legs. Also idk why but honey was a god send , make some oat meal and just pour a bunch of honey in there and idk why it is but it helps. The only drawback is that I’m having trouble sleeping but if that’s the only negative side affects I’ll take it ! Remember everyone your not alone in your struggle and god will help you if you call out to him with an open heart!
Stay with it, I'm praying for both of you!
William Kinnane Thank You Willam!
It was never about stress for me. It was legitimate withdrawal. Once i got under 1mg a day it was purely about making it to my next dose. The physical symptoms was the issue for me. I looked at it like part of the process. The worse i felt the quicker i adjusted to the next dose drop.
I agree. Not about stress when you wake up in a sweat and feeling like it’s restless legs all over my body.
@@Carol-dj8gp and the moment you wake up, feeling rough, you have to RUN to the fuckin toilet ! This is one of the biggest, most pain in the arse symptoms for me, I don't know how the Fuck I'll manage if am in full time employment and like that ! Takes ages to get back to normal. Every time I have just gone back to upping the dose.
I started at 1 and a 1/2mgs in the morning for 4 months. It holds me all day. Today I removed the 1/2 and taking 1mg a day. I’ll stay on 1 mg still I’m good and ready and then will cut down again and again. Your advice is great. Especially that stress makes you feel like your having WD’d which needs to wanting relief. I always told my doctor my stress makes me think I’m withdrawing. The methadone and Suboxone doctors do not know or tell you about any of this.
When I tried taking 1/2 away I only lasted 2 days. So instead I cut the 1/2 down to 1/4. Will stay on 1 and 1/4 until I feel comfortable. Not going to rush this.
They don’t know it at all!
How did you know the ml grams
@@mralgonzz I cut 8 mg film in half, and then cut that in half until I have 8 small squares. Each square is 1 mg. I use small scissors and tweezers. It’s still very hard for me to get off even a low dosage but it’s better then using.
@@maryfallorina2482 I’m doing the same thing. I’m now cutting the 1mg into smaller pieces. I’m amazed at how powerful this drug really is.
Dude spot on ive been doing this all wrong i take specs of it till i withdawl its like what your saying. Man this takes time cant wait to be free and clear of everything and just content.
I’m right there with you. We are not alone. =)
I have watched countless videos on this topic. This is by far the best one I've ever seen on tapering anything. Thank you for helping the community.
Understanding that your going to feel a little uncomfortable whenever you take anything away from the body helps your mind set so much. Once I understood that I was able to allow myself to feel uncomfortable & be OK with it. . Plus knowing the comfort level I was at, wasn't anywhere close to how withdrawal feels helped as well..so yes I was uncomfortable but at least I wasn't writhing on the floor sweating and vomiting. It's really crazy how our brains work.
Same here! Day 34 tomorrow and it wasn’t as bad as I thought. Jumped off of 4mg and have been taking for 4 years. It was bad, but not near as bad because I wanted it and I never wanted to put that medicine in my mouth again! I was done!
@@dizzydesi5754 I doubt your story
Thank you I’m starting my new chapter in getting off of this suboxone. Pray for me to make it .
Prayers! I just did it! If you have any questions let me know or just need to vent or talk! We have to stick together!
Subscribed. Thank you so much, man. This is a very solid video. I am just starting subs, but I know in my heart of hearts I need to come off as soon as I can. I'm having a hard time forgiving myself that it got to this point. I don't like having to be latched to this. Still in the initial phase, so I have background withdrawal from my previous addiction still. It feels like a nightmare, albeit a much more comfortable one. I hope it chills out so I can grow those support networks and coping skills and get off this a few months down the road.
Best suboxone advice on TH-cam right here!
This video should have WAY more views
I love your videos,and the wealth of information being given!! 😙
This is so helpful I am literally in tears
Thank you so much. I’m realising I’ve been doing the worst thing by taking mine at night for years. My job is stressful so taking it at night when I’m walking out of work was like this double hit of stress relief. For me, continuing what I’m doing now means subs = stress relief through leaving work, shower/dinner and evening wind down etc. etc.
Same
This is an amazing explanation! Thank you for this!
I'm so glad I saw this video. I can directly relate with the dosing and connecting it to certain situations for stress relief instead of putting the dosing in the background and scheduling it at certain times only. The coping skills are key and are so frequently overlooked by so-called doctors
Really great info here. Experience is the best teacher and it’s clear you know what works. Videos like this are very helpful.
Thats a huge key, how you tied stress to WD to dose to relief. That makes perfect sense, but I havent heard anyone else say that. Thank you.
Thanks for the awesome video 🤗
Your doing good works brother.
Thank you so much for this, it makes sense and is very helpful.
Holly cow this is awesome, I really needed to see this. Talking to my doctor today about tapering from 8mg to 6mg per day, & I'm going to ask him about this.
For me personally, I'm breaking up 8mg tablets, & I'm noticing a need for smaller tablets to ensure accurate dosing. When I eventually get down to 0.25mg doses, that will be nearly impossible to measure accurately from a tablet that contains thirty-two 0.25mg doses.
I feel that moving to 2mg tablets will be important for me psychologically to feel as though I'm still taking an entire dose, & not just a fraction of what I should have to feel comfortable.
I believe it's easier to cut strips accurately into small, even doses, but for tablets I feel that changing to a different size will be very important for me so I can accurately follow a taper such as this.
Thanks for the great information! 😃
Man I’m glad I found this video. I’m down to 1mg in the morning and 1 at night. I’ve started at 16 about 2 years ago and kept tapering down every 3 months or so. I’m trying to get off completely but it’s kind of a scary thought, so seeing this gives me some semblance of hope. Thank you, great video.
You got this bro
Any update? I started my taper this week
@@jorelljones5697 wow I didn’t realize that was 2 years ago. I’m down to .25 twice a day for the last 6 months or so. It’s a very tiny piece of a 2mg strip. Gonna go down to .125 soon. Long process for sure but it’s way better than what I was doing before.
How you doing 2 years later????
@@jorelljones5697how long have you been on subs for? I just started at 12mg I was at 8mg from the Emergency Room but the Dr got me
On 12mg for the 1st week to see how my body responds. I was on 60mg methadone and 1mg of xan for 14 years. Just curious on how long you been I subs I plan on getting comfortable for the first month or 2 then start a slow taper. Hope to hear from you? 👍
Thank you Sir. Best video I seen soo far on Tapering off of subs...!!!
Thank you Robert!
I am at 4mg right now and am starting to follow your instructions. I've some issues of feeling sick even when I hadn't cut back on anything. I think I may had been legitimately sick. How do you feel after each taper?
This is very useful and true .. the "real estate" it holds in your heart. Recovery separates the crutch with consistent tapering slowly weening to 0 and the recovery is based around real life and non medication asst treatment in that sense I mean.. while you get off it
great video once again......I've been tapering for approximately 9 months. Down to approximately 2mg-1.5 mg, my starting point was 16 mg ( *2* 8 mg strips per day). When I cut the 2mg piece down I sometimes get restless legs before bed or wake up really early in the morning uncomfortable. However, this is not every night, just my body adjusting to the decrease in the subs. So far so good, started mediation and keeping up has been incredible. Jason Stephenson and the Honest Guys on TH-cam are my go to. If I have time I meditate mid-day especially on my days off and basically every single night when I go to sleep. Been working out 5 days a week which is the most important. Lastly, I've been going back to church, this may not be your cup of tea but if you used to go or have questions about spirituality this is exactly where you should be.
My go to is Jason Stephenson and Michael Sealy. I just found you looking at Suboxone tapering, I’ve tried and now I’m back on 16 again. I cannot take that with drawls You’re saying you have restless legs after nine months? When you have time can you just lay out your taper plan from 16 mg. Thank you:). I haven’t watched any videos for a while and I saw this one. This guy is pretty good!
Laurie P Michael Sealy is solid. I get restless legs only when I drop over a mg. And that isn’t every single time and furthermore it’s not full blown rls. Just a little bit of discomfort. Nothing I can’t manage until my body adjust to the drop. Also I have extra subs if it’s too annoying. Don’t worry about my issues because I dropped quickly a few times but I expected this just a touch.
Mikey Likes It I could have not mapped it better. 👍🙏🏼💕✊🏻amén.
Laurie P from my recollection this is how I’ve tapered so far.
Jan 2019, 8 mg when I woke up and 8 mg at 5pm.
March 2019, 8 mg when I woke up and 4 mg at 5pm.
April 2019, 8 mg when I woke up and 2 mg at 5pm.
May 2019, 8 mg when I woke up and tried my best to cut out my second dose. Now here’s when it gets tricky so to speak. Since cutting the strips I keep the extras. If I feel uncomfortable in the evening hours I would take a little piece, probably 1mg or so (eyeballed) just to level me out. After a few days my body would adjust to the drop.
July 2019 (so two months on this dosage). 6 mg in the morning. Now I continue the same plan each drop, have a sliver of subs in the evening if I felt crappy or couldn’t sleep.
August 2019, 4mg in the morning. During August/September I would cut a little piece off the 4 mg and keep it with me just in case I needed it at night.
October 2019, down to 2 mg. Definitely felt this drop compared to all the others. Now it’s all above positive outlook. Was it horrible? Absolutely not, just a little bit of discomfort but nothing terrible. Working out, lifting weights, cardio or both has done wonders.
Now it’s almost November and been cutting a sliver off the 2mg strips. Keeping that sliver of subs with me just in case. For the past week there’s days I don’t need to take that sliver and a few day’s that I took it, most of the time right when I lie down to sleep.
Any other questions feel free.
@@mikeylikesit3393 Do you find that knowing that you have extra subs kinda helps with the mental aspect of it? Like you know you have a kind of safety net if it gets too bad, and that allows you to push through it easier than if you didn't have any subs left? It helped when I weaned from Neurontin to have a few in reserve when I took the final leap to nothing. The mind is powerful and I've sent myself into withdrawal just knowing and stressing, when I used to run out, about not having any the next day. Even after taking my daily dose, the mental stress and focusing on it, made me start having withdrawal symptoms, but as soon as I calmed myself down, it went away.
Down to 1.5mg a day. Was at 1mg last week but eventually felt the WD catch up from the long half life. Anything more than .5mg at a time honestly makes me too drowsy now. Getting there slowly but surely! On another bright note - I’m running 3 miles a day and my body feels great, however I am dealing with some major brain fog right now so working on my mind feeling great. It comes and goes. Appreciate these videos!
Hey Andy, how are you doing now?
@@HealThyLivingQueen Currently taking .5mg a day. I had stopped during this past year but the post acute withdrawal symptoms seem to hit me harshly. Im very content with life currently though :).
@@sacordle that's awesome. So good to hear that really. I've been taking .5mg for the last 3 months or so. I'm so ready to let it go now. It helped me with my pain pill addiction. I know that it most definitely was a stepping stone, but now it's time to let it go. I've been on it for a year now. Yikes lol
VERY helpful brother! Going into it I feel like I can pull off the same taper with your info and experience. THANK YOU!
I'm so happy I found this channel! I just weaned myself off of Neurontin with no withdrawal, and I've tapered from 100mgs of methadone to 69mgs since early summer. I'm aiming to taper completely off by this time next year. I'd kinda like it to be sooner than that, but I've been following the clinic's recommended medically supervised taper of 2mgs every other week. I've asked if I could drop by 10mgs once or twice, and if I felt bad I could always go back up a few mgs and resume the 2mg drop, but they won't approve it. My mom recently switched to Suboxone from methadone at 30mgs. She's only taking a eighth of a pill per day, but she's nervous about weaning completely off that, as well. It's very fortuitous that I found y'all when I did! I'm bout to do a marathon session and listen to your vlogs!
shar martin wow I am in the process of gabapentin taper also. How did u do yours? I was on 3200 and now on 800. Just going really slow. Dropping 200 mgs every 2 weeks
I know I sound crazy but going from 16 mg to 12 mg is so easy...but going from 2 mg to 1 mg is really hard. Even though you're only going down 1 mg, those last few micrograms really matter. Well, it's hard for me. That's a better way to put it. Best wishes!
I jumped off the methadone at 170 mgs a day........
@@rudyferrellhow is that possible? I been on 60mg a day for 14 years and I had to get on subs their is no way I could jump just from 60mg a day
@@svtkilr I literally thought I was in hell for 3 weeks. It took me a year to get over it. It was by far the worst thing I've ever been through in my life.
Man you made total sense and it's just what I needed to hear! I've came to the point that I'm just done taking it..I been on it for 4 yrs I've gotten down to half to 1 a day I'm getting my last script and going to use it to taper off I've excepted that i might feel a little like crap and for some reason that use to scare me because i was always scared to have withdrawals...just my thinking has changed and ready to get off!
How did it go ?
How you doing today ?
Everyone's plan will be different but this is a good basic guideline. I like dosing in the morning and evening is best for me. A slow decline with enough time to stabilize
Hey man. I commented on your channel a while back saying I wanted to get off this medication. I tapered down to 2mg then to 1 and I’m sober now. It sounds so basic but it really is power of will. The end was hardest.
That is awesome, thanks for sharing!
I woke up just tired of dealing with all the appointments and really the feeling of not having total control of my body. No working out which I know would have helped but just felt so lethargic. My body and mind felt so numb on Suboxone. Yes I experienced withdrawals. First 4 or 5 days were the worse. Still having a bit trouble sleeping and my digestion is a bit funky but definitely tolerable. It took forever to get this far and my willpower is on another level right now.
@@mullimeister904 I did the same thing! Great job! I never hear that so I wanted to make sure I told you! I know how hard it is :)
I’m on 2 mg a day hoping to kick it in the next 3-6 months
@@GamerChefEd you can do it! I’m 10 weeks off! I’ve been back to work for 6 weeks and I’m feeling better than ever! I don’t even think about it anymore! Get past the first 4 weeks and don’t let it defeat you! You are stronger than it is! I promise!
Hey bro thanks for video and me and my wife are tapering off now and im at 2-4 mg a day, she is a little less than that and we love the videos and motivation you give us! Thanks #projectunbroken
That is awesome man, its nice to have someone to work through this with, accountability is huge! Keep up the good work you two!
Thank you for this video, I started tapering off Suboxone and want to do it right. I was going to taper based off of how I felt and now realize thats not the right way. I was on pills and everything else, then Methadone for 7 years and now its been 6 years on Suboxone so I am ready to be done for the first time in 16 years.
Good luck everyone whose trying 🤞🙏❤️
GOOD SHIT BRO IM IN TAPER MODE NOW AND YOUR MESSAGE MAKES PERFECT SENCE TO ME.THKS AW SUCCESS
Been on Suboxone for 8 years. Started at 24 mg then 16 mg then 8 mg. Couple months ago decided it was time to taper reducing by half every 2 weeks. Today I m on a tiny crumb or sliver from a 4 mg strip. Some insomnia and restless leg syndrome but I m ready. Taking DLPA, eating very healthy. Also type 1 diabetic to throw a monkey wrench into situation. Your videos are motivating. Thank you.
How did it go for you did you get off suboxone?
How you doing today?
Everytime i feel any discomfort (eyes watering, yawning, low energy), i take 2 mg of suboxone. I needed this video. Gonna start w 2 mg instead of 4 though.
I have a question.. I'm stuck on the PILLS I don't get strips...and they are very powdery and break into many little pieces even with the pill cutter. Anyway I still manage to break the pieces up. Can I do your tapering but not take it 4 times a day? Does this work for one time a day?
Thanks for the tips, cant wait to get off this stuff. I was on it for almost 12 years. Six months ago I was at 8mg a day. Now I'm down to about .25mg once a day. My goal is to cut that in half twice before the end of the year and be done once and for all. I feel like if I can get under .10mg I can do it.
Hope you're doing well @carlos matos
Do you take the pill? I’m curious how to cut it into that small amount
@@clairevan4814 Thank you! Clean and sober for 6 weeks now. Ended up jumping off at .13mg. Withdrawal wasn't that bad. I had mild withdrawal symptoms like frequent yawning and restless legs for about three weeks. Took melatonin to help me sleep at night, plus doing 20-30 minutes of cardio exercise daily really helps a lot too.
@@nikademitro8668 Yes. I had the small generic 2mg buprenorphine pills. I was cutting them in half, and dissolving them in a small dropper bottle with water which would last me a whole week. Final dose before I quit was approx .125mg per day.
Carlos your plan is very similar to my one year plan. I'm getting myself all the way down to 0.125mg a day before I try to totally quit. I'm also stabilizing every single time before I lower my dose again. I've done it this way on methadone before and it made it a lot easier to quit with minimal side effects
Solid advice
I have rewatched this whenever I need inspiration. Like you said, tapering doesn’t have to be uncomfortable. Thank you for all you great advise.
Great video , very very important points .. tres bien
Bless you for doing this video, kind Sir. You’re very handsome too. ❤
Wife was down to 2 mgs per day and she stopped cold turkey and it’s been 11 days. She is still going through hell. I’m worried that she still has a long way to go. She can’t work,she can’t concentrate and she can’t sleep. Can you send some advice this way please?
Tapered from 3mg to .25mg in the last 18 days with minor withdrawal effects thanks to yoga and diet. 2mg to 1mg was the hardest part, but It really can be done with Project Unbrokens principles and patience. The hardest part is the choice to do it
Great work Jay, sounds like you are doing this thing right. Keep up the good work!
Jay Nelo what type of withdrawals you getting at 1mg? I’m in the same ballpark you’re at. I workout etc, meditation and other positive vibes. I wake up 4-5 hrs after I fall asleep by being extremely uncomfortable. A little rls but my mind is running a million miles a minute.
@@mikeylikesit3393 Hi Mikey I just wrote you on this site scrolled down to see you again at 1mg! That is awesome. My question is since you wrote this 2 weeks ago is how are you? Can you explain to me exactly how you got to 1mg withdrawls and all? You shud be very proud of yourself. This drug is a bitch. I obsess all the time on it and only dream that one day I will be done, PAWS AND ALL! Where you are at would be a good reason to start with comfort meds. Clonidine, hydroxosine methocarbonal (for RLS) CHECK IT OUT
Been on suboxone for 8 years and I’m truly looking into tapering! Your method makes a lot of sense and I’m gonna give it a try, I also have a 2 year old so that’s what making me scared to do it cuz I have to be on my game 24/7 but also it may be able to distract me
8 years here too
Good taper method but you dont need to linger for multiple months on a dropped dose. Take a half mg off every month or even every two weeks
How have things been going for u Sam? Did u decide to start tapering? Your kid and future self with thank u. Life off subs is so much easier. It just takes a really strong mind to push through. U can do it, it will get better, I promise
Not to be a dick but you made your poor baby go through withdrawls you havnt even been willing to go through . Hope you're doing better!
@@timothy2935 wow that’ll put ur ass in perspective! I actually have tapered down but not quite there yet, I also broke my back a year ago so it’s another reason I’m trying to get off ! Idk if this shit is the cause of it but I’m trying my best for my son and me!
Thank you for this, been on suboxone for many years and I’m starting to taper myself off because I’m tired of being on it.
I've heard that it's best to take your dose once a day, that way you don't look forward to your next dose throughout the day, but I guess different things work for different people.
Absolutely. Stress, wd, sub, relief. I agree 👍how do we undue "damaged wires"?
I've been back n forth on this page for a few years now. After quitting opiates-i thought id quickly jump of Subs. Not. I gave up for a year n took 8mg daily. I feel finally ready to cut down. Had to get my routine back. I've been on 4mg now about a month. I want to taper but the thought of ANY withdrawals terrifies me (bad traumatic experiences withdrawl fetanyl) I want to take it slow n easy. But my head is screwed on right finally.
I recently got off fent. Went straight on subutex 3 days ago and started suboxone yesterday . Yeah fent withdrawals are gnarly ! Never experienced opiate withdrawals that bad. Been on opiates for about 6 years
I’m at the 200mcg morning and night. How long should I be there? Also what about withdrawl? Nice primer.
Great video thank you
I have been on methadone for about 14 years now. I am down to 15 mg per day now. I am having some restless legs and I wake up early in the morning. I split the dose 3x5mg as of now. I am wondering if it would be better to switch to Buprenorphine before the final taper. I really want to come off the medicine. Been thinking about going to Spain or Portugal for an Ibogain treatment. I heard that some people use pregabalin when they do the very finall cut.
Been on 24 mgs for a few years. Just cut to .5 since quarantine began. So about 3 months it took. Virtually no withdrawals until I got to about under 2 mgs. And then nothing serious until I dropped under 1. In fact when I went from 24 to 16 I literally felt almost nothing. Same with 16 to 8
Same here bro, I got down from 12 per day to 2 easy but after that it was tough. I got down to 1-.5mg before I just took my last dose two days ago. Got all symptoms mainly mild but a lot of yawning and anxiety and chills and coldness. Last night had restless leg bad had to take two shots of rum to sleep
Some doctors are overdosing, these are either in for the kickbacks or clueless. If your habit is on the high side, no pun intended, you may need to get up to 16mg, BUT start with 2mg and add 2mg every TWO hours until you're comfortable. Once you're comfy you can quickly drop down to 8mg per day, there are studies that show a receptor threshold at 8mg, anything over that is just wasted and not healthy. But there are some outliers because we are all different. Some doctors give up to 24mg per day, quackery or criminals.
@@claudiodominguez. I think less is definitely more I'm on 3mgs and it's perfect. Even 8mgs was too much for me so yes everyone is different and needs to find their dose and this shit is strong so I think less is more. I'm gonna start tapering off of 3mgs on the first of the month
@@77D777 You can do it !
@@claudiodominguez. hey thanks for the reply back I appreciate it hell yeah I know I can do it. I went cold turkey off 8mgs back during the 2020 COVID lockdown and that was horrible! But I can't do that again nor do I wanna do slow and steady taper it is I will get off this stuff once and for all. Again thanks for the kind words hope you got off subs also.
I made the stupid decision to take benedry with Sub because it would get me higher. The problem is that when I started to taper down, the withdrawal symptoms revolving around goosebumps and being hot then cold and sweaty were pronounced.
I take a 8mg every 3-5 days, (for pain). How do I go from there?
I’ve been taking at most like 2 mg a day for about a year. I am working overtime almost every week but really want to get off I thought I could just get thru but after 4 days I had to dose. The withdrawals weren’t horrible but definitely hard to do my job and to get sleep
I went from 16 down to 8 to 4 down
to around 2mg pretty abruptly without tapering. I'm 4 months into detox and I've got itchy crawly skin and anxiety it's getting bad. Could you please help me do I need to go back to 8 mg and taper or just taper from 2mg I been on 2mg for a while
I appreciate this. Thank you 🙏🏻
I currently have a dr appointment next week for kratom addiction. I think they're going to give me subs. Ive never tried them. Do they make you feel happy?
Little worried.
How does it effect your appetite? And does eating kill your high so to speak?
Sometimes ill skip meals because i dont want to mess up my kratom feel good by eating
Love this video thank you
I’m wondering, how long have you been clean now matt? I’m curious to know how you stay fired up for your recovery? And if you go to NA or AA meetings?
Going on 17 years now, time flies! So this is just me, but I've never been to a meeting and I don't try to stay fired up for my recovery, but rather everything else in my life that I love. I'm fired up to be healthy and strong, I'm fired up to be a good dad and husband, to be successful in the areas of my life that matter to me. I think one of the biggest reasons for my sustained recovery is that I never focused on it (recovery), I just focused on what I wanted to do and none of those things allowed for drugs to be in my life. Find what you love and it will pull you from your addiction, instead of trying constantly to run from it, avoid it or fight it. Check out my instagram handle @projectunbroken, I'm going to make a video on this tonight that will go more into depth.
How do you calculate the miligrams? I take the strips , i went from 2 8 mg a day to now cutting one 8gm into 3 pieces for 1 a day
that's pretty much it, just divide the strips into equal parts. It's not going to be perfect unless you weigh them with a diamond scale (very accurate and cheap on amazon). But you can get close enough for sure.
Ive heard the longer you wait after you first wake up the better because it lessens the reliance on suboxone to live normally.
I've gone from 12-16mg a day to 2-4mg a day in the last week and i feel sort of okay, so im not going back up. Im going to start at 1mg 3× day for the next week then go to 1mg 2× day for a week, then to .5mg 2× day for a week, to .5mg 1× day for a week, to .5mg every other day.
This video made me feel like im a year ahead of the suboxone game, thank god, i needed alot of inspiration.
It’s a lot like weight loss; the first few pounds come off easy, the real work is at the end. Use this time to strengthen your coping mechanisms, maximize natural production of dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin and endorphins. This will make the come off at the end very easy, just make sure you’re doing the work now!
im on day 2..hopefully I can get it this time..ive been battling this addiction for 10 years now
Nice. How did you get your dosing below 1mg? Were you cutting your films?
Late to the meeting here but I just got down to 2mg around 9am.... and then my 2nd and final dose around 4PM of another 2mg... going to stay here for a week or so and then taper again.... reddit has been a great source of info as well.... read one comment about the person waking up and the colors were brighter and they were out of the fog... that motivated me like crazy! I have been on auto pilot since 2017 and miss the old me... I will say "doctors" prescribe this stuff on the reckless side... I was prescribed the tablets so I'm using a pill cutter but I am pretty determined... sorry for being all over the place with my thoughts but if you're reading this good luck! Thanks for the video! I will ask if anyone has any tips on managing the dosage of the pill forms..... Thanks again.
Look I’m having a rough go at it. Every time I taper wds start all over again. I’ve been on .5 for a week and still feel absolutely cruddy. I just need this over
As soon as my eyes open from a night sleep I take 8.7 mg of zubsolv I can’t get out of the habit. I’m on one per day and doctors here in Ireland say you can only take it once a day
11 - 12 year opiate problem. 6 months ago I was finally ready to quit. Suboxone helped a lot but after 6 months felt like it was time to quit it. Started the first week on 4mg from 8mg. Then second week jumped down to 2mg. So far I've had no discomfort so far but I think it's majorly due to my mental state now and being ready to finally cut the string to the past.
Same for me but once I got below 2 ng I started feeling more withdrawals. So I had to slow my taper down a bit now.
I’ve been on it for 7 years and I built a life at one point I could never dream of. Cut to now, I’m having such a hard time. I don’t drink. I don’t use any mind altering drugs, other than nicotine and caffeine. But suboxone has turned me into an anxiety filled mess. I’ve tried to taper so many times but every time I want to go back up, my doctor allows me to. I feel so frustrated. Trying another taper, yet again.
@hiphiphooray hi just reading your messages , are you off of subox yet ? I'm tapering slowly just wondering how you feel now if your off it
@hiphiphooray even if I taper off of it in the tiniest doses will i still feel wd ?? Congrats to you well done on your success
@hiphiphooray that's a good way of seeing things. Can't wait to be off this shit
@hiphiphooray when u taper down to say 0.5mg do you feel w d after ?
@hiphiphooray I really don't want to get sick 😬
Ive been on them for 12 years and off once for few months. Please try to get off asap. My liver is now damaged and destroyed from this and teeth. It's taken my life literally. I might have 3 years or so tops. Don't let this kill you especially we don't even get pleasure from it
How are you doing bro? I’m taking your advice! I only been on subs for 1 1/2 weeks and I’m taking them because I just got off 60mg methadone and 1mg of xan so. My Dr started me on 12mg for 2 weeks to see if I can get comfortable from the withdrawals I had the first 3 days that Emergency Room gave me subs they gave me 24mg the first day that’s was hell worst withdrawal for the first 3 days no sleep on Subs but on day 5 and 6 I was sleeping a bit it’s weird my body is like NUMB? but I know it’s working with the craving and withdrawal in the last 3 days but I’m still low on energy like 65% I just want to get comfortable and start a taper because I don’t want to be on this for years and years. Day by day i guess. I hope your feeling better tho.
Thank you so much for this advice
Please please please advise me on short term suboxone treatment
I want to get off before I get addicted to it
Say a few weeks
Coming off a big, long H addiction
Hello, is it normal to feel a new anxious feeling in your chest when you try to lower dose? It’s so strong tho makes me feel like I’m going crazy or something. Can’t sleet or anything. I do use thc too
Yes
You dont really say if you had withdrawls at the end of your taper?
I go from 2mgs one day to 1mg the next day and so forth. I’m super super comfortable! Tomorrow I’ll be taking a half mg 😊 and then when I’m doing half mgs I’ll start skipping a day and so forth!
I hope I can do this I am so pissed I stayed on this so long my kid is now 11 so I have been doing this at least 10 yrs. Kudos to this video I was taking 2- 8 mg subs and now I take 4 to 8 mg in a day which I will make more consistent now and begin a taper over the next few months. I wish everyone out there that is doing well to keep at it one day at a time! and to those like me still in it I wish you the best and dont ever give up the battle!
Don't hope, just do it! You're already on the right path. Just keep up the good work, your kid is going to be proud of you...YOU GOT THIS.
How you doing today
Man you explained this so well
How did you break it down so small??
how do you know the mg ? when cutting the strip
In middle of TAPPER OFF did you consume any alcohol or any weeds
Man this is life changing this is everything ive been searching for. I can finally shake this monkey! Thank you brother!
RIght on brother, I'm glad you came across this video! It really does work, just make up your mind and stick to the plan and you'll be out of this thing before you know it. You got this!
Once a day baby!! On 2 mg and going 💪
Thank you for this. I need help coming off mine. And all research I do tells me to stay on it and I don't want to. I started it because I was in pain and doctor wouldn't give me anything for my pain. So I started taking this and it helped eith the pain. The weird part about my journey on this is I only taken about 1/8th (probably less) of a 4mg strip 3 to 4 times a day. To much made me sick and this is what worked for me. I don't have a clue how people can take a whole strip and not pass out or anything
Been on them 8 years and im ready to be done with them!
Good luck you can do it
I've been on them 5 years in june and I'm feeling just like you, have you started yet?
@@ginge7945 yea but im only.down from 16 mg.a day to 12
@@Aprilann871 not only, that's a 25% reduction already! How are you feeling? Any withdrawals at all?
@@ginge7945 no not at all.
Doc started me at 8mg 4x a day. (Was on 60-100 mg of oxy daily, would run out of my 30 day script in 16-17 days then do kratom, approx. 5 grams 2x a day till my next refill). Going into day 24 and I'm already down to 2mg 2x a day of suboxone. I'm not forcing myself to taper quickly, I just don't feel any craving or withdrawal at all. I know as my dose gets lower I'm going to need to slow the taper. I wouldn't rule out using kratom as a bridge between coming off the sub completely and being clean.
@B Weezy-CLT same here, they started me on 16mg after I od but I never did that, I took just 4mg then started tapering myself down from 4mg a day to .5mgs a day & just keeping my extras as he said for a safety blanket😩😅
I’m at 2mg at 4:30am then 2mg around 11:am then 1mg 5pm. This blueprint helps out. I see where I should cut back my second dose then bring it down from there. Thanks.
I can’t wait to taper. They wouldn’t help me bc of my chronic pain issues but i am self tapering myself. I’ve already gotten down to 6 mg a day all on my own.
How are you now?
I am currently taking point five milligrams of Suboxone in the morning noon and then at night so I would say I'm on about 1.5 mg a day it has only been about two weeks since my last opiate use so I think I'm doing well being on that low of a milligram in such a short time frame just hoping that it will minimize my withdrawals in the end coming off of this completely I'm always seeing or hearing stories about people coming from a high milligram per day to nothing in a long period of time but what about going from a low dose in the beginning and getting off in a short period Of time
That’s 10 mgs
@@anandvyas2701 no thats 1.5mg hes right
I know it’s been 3 years since your comment. Taking a long shot chance to see if your low-dose suboxone method worked for you.
I was down to .5 for a month or two. Even got down to .25 for a while and just couldn’t get off it. I’m with a new doc back up to 4 mg a day just switched to subutex or a generic of it. Do you think this will be easier to taper off then Suboxone since that has naloxone which also binds to receptors. I think it will. I feel better it’s only been few days off subs and on just bupe. And I definitely feel different. I think naloxone is a problem. Heard it binds to your opiate receptors stronger than the actual buprenorphine. Even when you think about it just doesn’t make sense. Naloxone is definitely more then just a blocker. I’ve heard of people getting off subs and just taking naloxone and that made them feel good and normal Because it binds and fills your receptors.
That’s a good point i never thought of it that way!
Can u tell me how it went? Im in just bup as well. The pill and i want off but nl idea how to taper low with the pill. The lowest ia 2mg.
@@imblackwhite4662 still take 2 mg in morning and night
@@imblackwhite4662 get the 2 mlg and break it in half start taking 1 mlg day for a while level out on that then break that half in half and you got .5 then level out on that and just get off it. Going to deal with some discomfort no matter what but they say it can be done if you believe and wait it out long enough and do it right. You will eventually feel normal again. Fuck. Subs
@ i will give that a try. Im on 2mg. I never went higher than 4mgs and ive been on it once a day since October. Yeah. This shit is a trap. IDC what anyone says.. Ur right FUCK subs.
I spent a year on 1mg per day
Its now been 4 days...no where near the withdrawl symptoms i expected
More psychological...not even restless legs which is by far the worst
You hit the point bro congrats ti you're working 👌👌🙏🙏