The Artful Dodger - iFrames and the Basics of Dodging
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All clips in this video were done with BASE EVASION and no Evade Window nor Evade Extension were equipped.
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00:14 - Introduction
00:35 - iFrame Data per Dodge Type
01:37 - Hitbox and Active Hitbox Explained
03:03 - How to iFrame through attacks
04:23 - Moves that can be iFramed
07:07 - Moves that you should roll away from
09:07 - Evasion Mantle and Evade Window iFrame Data
10:15 - Important Notes
You guys should have more subs. Your guide on Behemoth is what allowed me to solo it!
@@SuperHansburger93 thank you for the kind words!
@@MonsterHunterPH Hello there, in the reddit thread you linked it says step dodge is 10, 12, 14, 16, 19, 22 with evade window 0>1>2... etc and in the video it says 10, 12, 18, 20... so I'm wondering if I'm misunderstanding something?
@@zanbamon4162 yes, thank you for pointing it out, another viewer also pointed that out a few minutes ago. I believe I mistakenly copy-pasted the info for Demon Dash instead of the hop in the video.
Kindly just disregard the typo. The reddit source is the correct info.
how many i-frames dose the skill Resuscitate give you when antive?
cant wait to boot up my game to try this and die miserably
Haha, we all started at that point too, no worries
Try practicing with low-rank and roars first.
@@VeryProfessionalGamer I'm lazy and can dodge fairly ok already so I'm gonna invest in some evade skill
don't bother, it never works.
The hitbox is the part of the monster that deals damage
Plesioth: Is the air around me a part of me?
Hitbox: **EXIST**
Plesioth: "HiTbOx eXiStEd AnD i ShOuLd aBiDe iT"
the legendary hip check never ceases to tilt me
If I was required to create an artful dodger video guide for Plesioth I would probably uninstall monster hunter from my life. None of the concepts in this video apply to him HAHAHAHAHAH
-Taxman
OH F*CK! Not that fish again.
Fighting games call that the hurtbox - the box that deals the hurt, and the hitbox is the part that gets hurt.
I've been struggling with figuring out why even though I know what kind of attack is coming, I still fail my dodge. I thought the s were MID roll, with the character in the air- I had NO idea it was at the START of the damn animation xD I was driving myself crazy wondering why I could usually dodge tail swipes okay, but quick charges/runs and roars I was having a poop time with. Armed with this knowledge, my practicing will be much less random xD Thank you for these videos, this is EXACTLY what I was looking for!!!
I'd be happy to know if you've improved your success rate. I really appreciate the kind feedback!
Going in from Dark Souls, that's the same mistake that I initially believed
@@JohnSmith-op3qj Yeah, the worst thing about Dark Souls muscle memory is that you're encouraged to dodge proactively in those games, while in MH you're supposed to dodge at the last moment, at a timing that would get you roll-caught in DS.
The several hundred hours I put into dark souls 3 before I started this game legitimately made me think the dodge rolls didn't have i-frames lol
@@MonsterHunterPH Hey! I was still having a bit of trouble dodging some of the roars, but this past november I upgraded my keyboard (from an amazon basics to a pretty roccat one :'D), and I found myself dodging things more consistently xD When I'm with my group of friends, its rare that I get carted unless I'm unlucky with a wombo combo because my dodges has become a lot better :D I'm having a blast with Iceborne, and currently watching through all your new MR vids! Thank you for all the hard work you put into these vids, its super helpful! Cheers!
I would like to take a moment to sincerely and unironically thank whoever was involved in the making of the comprehensive guide on dodging.
As a veteran gamer, most of the concepts weren't new to me, however I salute the time and effort you took to explain those concepts in the beginning of the video, as those without prior knowledge surely have been helped by it.
But more importantly, I would like to express my appreciation for the slow motion footage and breaking down of each of the monster's moves you did, as it helps even the most veteran hunters to better understand what our visual cues for dodge timing should be.
Monster Hunter is probably one of the most challenging game I've played when it comes to the level of precision required to successfully dodge. The way this video breaks it down feels very professional and also, artistic.
So yeah, thank you a lot.
Thank you, this comment is very much appreciated!
Couldn't agree more! Amazing job.
Before HR100 i don't need guide. After HR49 ahhhh i need more guide.
This is really amazing. Thanks for been the one who tells the hunters how to get better. Really good information here. Thank you.
I thought I was going to learn something useful about video encoding, but instead I learnt how to better kill a dinosaur.
This guy just roll dodge Lunastra' tailswipe, TWICE. Congratulations you earned yourself a new subscriber.
that Teostra dodge was insane :)
You can learn to do it too! th-cam.com/video/1_U-zEhsaXg/w-d-xo.html
@@MonsterHunterPH You really can't.
BEST IFRAME Demonstration video. most of videos just show off their skills and never explain how they do that.
I heard LS foresight has nerfed in IB. How many frames LS foresight got in IB?
@@홍자막 I can't find the answer from a good source, but I did read that it's similar to regular dodge roll, and caps out at 0.6s (36 s) with mantle. Also, you need some spirit to activate the s.
Still very long.
600+ hours in and I am only just now learning the mechanics behind dodging o.o Wondered why my DB demon dodges were always so effective... Guess I need to invest in Evade WINDOW over Evade EXTENDER Xp Thanks! Very helpful.
Thank you for the great feedback! Good luck on your dodging endeavor!
Just a curious question about Extender though. Even though it doesn't increase your iFrames -- if dodged in the correct direction, it should reduce the amount of frames your hurtbox and the monster hitbox intersect, right?
Yes, that is correct. Extender makes it easier to dodge moves that you should "roll through" like breath attacks and tail swipes because it increases the distance that you travel. You're right in that the intersection of the iFrames and the Hitbox will be less.
I did my first teo nova roll yesterday! Also, evade extender might seem to be ineffective with rolling I frames, but they sorta do too.
You are able to travel further with your I frame than if you didn't have evade extender. You demonstrated that dodging alongside jho's tail was bad because you were in jho's active hitbox. With evade extender, you can travel a bit further, which means you may be able to escape the long active I frames with the same I frames you have and evade extender.
Thank you so much for the frame data on evade window too
Much appreciated! Thank you for the feedback!
Yes, you are right, Evade Extender can indeed help in iFraming as it will make you clear the distance further. Most definitely it will make all manner of swipes that much easier.
Perhaps I will include that in a future video but for now I am happy with Evade Window only.
This is my favourite thing in MH, I really need to learn how to do it without evade window xD
Thanks for these clarifications
I honestly never thought you could dodge through elemental projectiles like that so i never tried lol, thanks for the great video
what did you do against velkhana then? xD
I dont even know lol
@@ThePowerBolf Lance was my solution. That and copious amounts of healing items and frequent visits to camp to stock up.
Ah, this clears up a lot. I think most people's reflexes would naturally/instinctively try to roll away from an attack. The thought of rolling into an attack seems counter intuitive but it makes sense.
"oh shit someones gonna shoot me with a shotgun, *time to roll directly into it*"
@@exursix haha
@@exursix wrong dodge timing amirite?
Dark souls..
@@kiradus Yes, dark souls makes it nearly mandatory to dodge into attacks.
I had a mental breakdown learning this. Back to the Lance I suppose.
the way he dodges monsters move set is as good as how my crush dodges my feelings, happy valentines day hunter :(
HAHAHAHAH GOD DAMN
Same he dodges as well as my dad dodges child support
Reading this comment on vday 2021wtf
@ragingpanty change your pp to a drawing of your handle
400+ hours and just TIL about iFrames is actually at the start of the roll thanks to this video. Time for endless dying in the name of practice. Thanks a lot for the tips!
You make such solid and information packed videos. Keep it up!
Thank you for the kind words!
This man a beast. "Quick special moves": 7:07
TEOSTRA'S FREAKING ULTIMATE
Wow, this is a fantastic video, great job!!
Woah! Thank you, DarkHero Gaming!
Nice seeing another filipino mhworld content creator!
This is golden. Keep it up bro. As a non-TA runner - this is really informative for me since I don't really do I-frames!
Thanks a lot! :)
Much appreciated, Mister Gunsexual! HAHAHAHA
Love your runs!
Monster Hunter World PH Elites hahahahaha thanks for the support! ❤️❤️
The things that have frustrated me the most with trying to learn dodge timings are the complete lack of visual cue to indicate when i-frames are active and a controlled environment to practice dodging different types of attacks, be they quick sweeps, big slams, long and short charges or explosions. The only thing you really have in the training room is the dynamite barrel...
Just a question about attacking instead. Does the dodges come naturally in between attacks or is it recommended to wait for the monster to start, dodge it, and attack during the opening and repeat this again? For instance the repositioning for the Deviljiho's body slam is fairly difficult to achieve when the vision is tunneled for attacking the legs with a sword and shield. So do we commit to an attack before the monster? Or do we wait for an opening by dodging first?
That is a very good question. The short answer is that it should be a combination of both.
At the very beginning of an engagement, you should let the monster attack first and then react accordingly. This shouldn't be that big of an issue because all monsters roar when they see you, so it is virtually impossible to do a preemptive strike unless you have earplugs.
I would suggest checking out MaestroNox's deviljho solo to get a feel for what I mean: th-cam.com/video/v9i65cBoxQ0/w-d-xo.html
You could see that he goes ham with attacks when Deviljho is still "locked" in his attack animation. When Deviljho's stance is neutral you could see Nox slowing down on the attacks and instead paying attention to what the next move would be. You could tell that he is doing this because you can see him actively orienting his hunter's body position so that a back hop would evade through Deviljho's attack in the opposite direction. The reason he does this is because, no, the dodge doesn't flow naturally to all monsters attacks. A lot of times the player should either delay a roll or cancel a combo just so he/she could properly position and respond to the incoming monster's attack.
This is where experience and "feel for the game" comes in very handy. The more you fight a monster, the more you'll get accustomed to the timings of its attacks.
@@MonsterHunterPH Thank you for your swift reply! Your videos and your responses are all immensely helpful. Thank you once again.
I'm no longer active in MHW but here's a sub. It's well deserved
This video is insanely helpful! Thank you so much!
Used s in other games. I was honestly questioning the existence of MHW s and chalking it up to false hear-say. But now I understand it was because of my direction and the hitboxes. I still really suck at it. But at least I now can figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Glad it helped you out! I'll be happy to hear if you were able to make improvements on your play by applying the tips in our guide.
Thank you for the very detailed, and informative video! I was disappointed that there weren't any good videos explaining how to use i-frames for the longest time. Please continue to make more content like this!
I also had a question regarding the insect glaive, and earplugs. I know that the insect glaive gets additional buffs when all kinsect extraction buffs are activated, such as flinch free and earplugs. Does the insect glaive get additional roll i-frames when all kinsect extraction buffs are activated? Does the skill earplugs affect the roll i-frames when dodging a monster's roar, or does skill just soften the blow when the hunter does "nothing?"
Thanks for supporting!
For earplugs, it doesn't give additional iFrames, it only lessens the effect of a roar that has successfully affected the hunter. You are correct in your understanding.
As for the IG buffs, I am no IG expert but to my knowledge there isn't a buff that increases evade window for IG, unfortunately.
@@MonsterHunterPH
Thank you for the reply!
Makes sense that earplugs just simply lessens the effects, than giving more i-frames.
It would probably be too powerful to add evade window along with the additional buffs you get from all three extraction buffs activated anyways. However, unless I misunderstood something from the video, are the i-frames from the aerial dodge of the insect glaive the same as the base roll? I couldn't really find a straightforward answer looking on reddit, but I did see other people mentioning that evade extender and evade window do affect the aerial dodge.
Honestly you could make a follow-up video just adressing questions in video's comments, or an FAQ! I'm sure I won't be the only person to ask these questions in the future lol.
@@KymberDarkus I wouldn't say I'm an expert in all the changed buffs, but I believe that the IG buff of giving you earplugs was taken out in MHW. It seems to me that you no longer have earplugs when you have all 3 colors. It makes it a little different in how you play IG, but if you're good at evading the monsters' attacks, you should still be fine; personally, it was more of a backup for me in the previous games in case I messed up my evade rather than something I relied on to automatically give me earplugs.
Essentially, I chose to practice my dodging, even with the automatic earplugs, in case of 1) I messed it up, 2) the monster had a higher level of earplugs necessary to block it that the IG didn't give (e.g. Tigrex's roar), 3) I wasn't using IG, and/or a combination of all three.
Extender might not grant more iFrames but it boosts how much distance you dash during the timing of the animation. Ergo, a faster dodge, ergo, easier dodges through attacks. Combining evasion window and extender allows you to pass through attacks you normally can't.
Very true!
6:46 - I actually thought this was something you couldn’t I frame through.
This is really cool since as a switch axe main my only defense is evading and repositioning. I'm really thankful for these guides!
Also, I wonder if it's my timing, when I dodge Pink Rathian's big fireball I can avoid the explosion's damage but my hunter is always set on fire.
Glad you like it! It may be possible that you are dodging near the explosion. Fireball projectiles will only be fully dodged if in the middle of trajectory, before the ground explosion hits
Rath family fireballs leave a short lingering burn area that inflicts burn but does little damage.
U should have kept making these videos, you’re absolutely amazing and your videos are super organized and to the point. Respect master hunter.
Sounds very easy to understand and it explayn why you want to do things in the way you did.
thnx, its a good guide.
I'm so puzzle on how to get rid of those roars. I already planning to get an earplug skill. Then i saw this! Good job and great content!
It is worth noting that some roars are longer than base level s. I believe Vaal and Xeno are on this list for examples as to what I'm talking about.
Everytime I see a video like this I want to drop my L/GL shield and play Switch Axe. Then I go and try for myself and eat every single one of these attacks. I just don't understand how it works in MH compared to Soulslikes for example.
On Elden Ring I can roll towards anything at the right moment and the I-Frames protect me from anything. Here no matter how small the part of the monster is the hitbox is just massive and hits me anyway. Is not clear if I have to jump before the attack animation starts or right when it is going to hit.
I've also tried with EW5 and while it feels a bit better the only safe way to evade a hit is to be faaar away from it which is the reason I prefer EE3.
My fault I guess. Back to tanking.
I think extender makes you roll further in the same amount of time? Hence it basically speeds up your dodge as well. Which means it's easier to things, even if the duration is the same. Because you can clear the hitbox faster. You can think of it like making each count as more frames, in a way.
For example lets say you have 10 s, and you increase your range by 20%. That means those 10 s will move you as far as 12 s normally would before you can take damage. So while you have 10 s, you effectively dodge as if you have 12 s. So it's pretty relevant as it will impact all dodges except for the ones where you stay inside the hitbox for the entire dodge (but the hitbox deactivates before your s do).
This is the worst game at visually communicating the player WHY they took dmg. The hit boxes suck ass
Sorry if this seems stupid, I have a few question. Does of certain move constant and not tied to how much fps that it's played on? If so, then but if a move is 15 frames, that would make it half a second at 30fps? And a quarter at 60fps? Isn't that make higher fps disadvantage? Or is that not how it works?
Think about it,
This video & the technique exists because the monsters have shitty hit boxes. Otherwise it'd just be "Dodge without getting clipped by the monsters".
I have seriously been looking for an informative and visually helpful video for this exact thing. Since i've started MHW back in april i've had such a hard time with the s in the rolling. I didn't quite understand why I was still being hit even though it looked as if I dodged it. This makes much more sense. THANK YOU SO MUCH
Thank you for the kind words! Our goal is always to help fellow hunters, most especially the ones who are relatively new to the series. I'm glad this has been very helpful for you.
and then u proceed to hate the game cause of shitty big hitboxes or parts of the monster that should not hit in certain moments. tobi kadachi drop spin is the BS i will never dodge again. u dodge first spin easy cause its fast and then slowing tail will TOUCH you and deal full dmg anyway. such a great game... i will not even say a thing about aerial hitboxes...
knowing the knowledge and use it is different been practicing but sometime i still get hit!
If you play DS3 or any from software games you will quite understand
By any chance do you also know the I-frames on the resuscitate or aquatic expert skill?
That's a good question, I'll try to find out and I'll let you know. Thanks!
If we base on the text description, Aquatic Expert level 2 "Increases evasion" which is also the text description for Evade Window 3.
For Aquatic Expert 3 and Resuscitate, the description is "Greatly Increases Evasion" which is the text description for Evade Window 4.
Hope that helps
Congrats to the hunters who work hard before knowing this thing exist
How many invincibility frames does Hunting Horn "Evade Window Up" (cyan echo song bubble) give? How does it interact with the Evasion armor skill or even Resuscitate armor skill: are they cumulative or the strongest buff overrides everyting?
Good question, I don't have info yet but I'll try to find out
How many frames do superman dive have? Very informative vid btw, thanks~
I don't know the exact numbers but I would imagine more than 180 frames (3 seconds) more or less because the whole dive animation, including the time your hunter is getting up, has iFrames.
die Königin trap desu
If you're anywhere near mid 30's and up skip this video lol, you're not going to get your timing down to a quarter of a second, take it from a MH1 vet. Grab a lance or hang it up, shit is too fast these days.
I may be wrong in this, but I think one aside to touch on is how Exhaust affects hit-boxes as well. Can you confirm on this assumption?: Sometimes, I almost feel like it's more hazardous to deal with tired/hungry monsters because their animations are slowed, thus their active hitboxes last longer.
At least in the case with big AOE/hitbox monster like Behemoth, there are so many times where I feel like I've been hit with a move simply because their attack hitbox "last longer" -- notable example is the gore/pin attack that has a VERY long active hitbox and is especially so when he's in Exhausted state.
Thank you for bringing this up. This is actually 100% accurate. Diablos' double head swing cannot be i-framed when he is exhausted because it moves significantly slower. I am not too sure about behemoth's gore but you may be correct in that one too.
So basically, roll like you're trying to headbutt the monster for fast attacks?
Yup that's exactly the point
you know what i just realized....you need to have a FAST fuking hand cuz when i replay it in slow mo, the attack land first, then the player role, which mean after the attack land, you have about 0.01 sec to react and press the x button (ps4)
Not entirely true. I'm 32 years old and I have an average reaction time of 0.22 seconds which is actually pretty bad.
The trick is to learn the initial tell of a monster so you can anticipate the attack coming. Its not about timing the dodge when you are about to get hit, rather it is about anticipating when the attack is about to hit by looking at the monster's body language.
Default dodge ba to?
O naka Evade Window deco?
Btw very informative videos. Thumbs up
Taxman here.
Default dodge lang bro, lahat ng Artful Dodger videos walang Evade Window at Evade Extender.
This explains (incredibly well) why I keep getting punked by attack’s. I’m dodging way to early to I-frame the attacks while also being fat too late to out-zone them. Guess it’s time to play more aggressive :)
thanks for the iFrame data and general tips on how and when to time these dodges, keep it up!
Do these frames only apply on PC? Since the PC has 60 fps and the console has 30 fps. So, the console has 1/2 less frames than pc? Sorry, can someone explain this?
For console, you do get less iFrames if you're playing under 30FPS, but don't worry, because you still get the same real-life time period for the dodge invincibility.
On PC at 60FPS
iFrame 13 / 60FPS = 0.216667 seconds
On PS4 at 30FPS
iFrame 6.5 / 30FPS = 0.216667 seconds
As you can see, the iFrames are less but the actual time in seconds is just exactly the same.
Whenever I roll through a roar, it's either one of those lucky ones, or my palico gave me earplugs.
It's easy to dodge if you have slow-mo like this guy. Modders destroy everything.
This is the most outrageous claim yet. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Dude this is an underrated amazing video. concept well explained amazingly.
Me..
Tats seem easy enough
Also me..
Let me cart 20 times in guiding land :)
Finnaly some solid information,
All this time i only learn from watching from speedrunner or try hundred time and remembering with my muscle memory
Thankyou so much....
Really impressive ! Thank you for putting the time to make this video explaining how dodge works, I just learned a lot from it :)
Thanks for the kind feedback!
You're a relatively new channel, been looking for these kinds of tips for older MH games last year.
Although in MHGen I can use adept style I know its important to learn to if I wish to continue/survive as a bow hunter in other games.
It wasn't until later on it occurred to me that the safest way to practice with my weapon is by doing the low/village quests.
I'm so glad your created this channel there are so many hunters that are not aware of timing and I frames and why they get hit. With this itll give them a general idea how to properly learn the mechanics of this game .
Great format, precise information, ... You gained a new subscriber ;)
Many thanks!
Impressive work dude. Really improved my hunt by a lot. Thanks!
Is the timing affected by your FPS? say you have uncapped FPS and are running at 80 FPS, would that reduce your window?
That's a good question. The answer is weird but the higher your FPS is, the more iFrames you also get.
BUT, it doesn't affect how long the actual invincibility duration is in terms of real-life time.
A regular roll is 13 frames in 60 FPS. If you have 120 FPS, the iFrame becomes 26 frames. If you have 30 FPS, you have 6.5 iFrames.
However, 6.5/30, 13/60 and 26/120 will always give you 0.216667 seconds. No matter how much your computer's FPS count is, you will always have 0.216667 seconds of invincibility.
@@MonsterHunterPH oh. Ok. That's really good to hear! Thank you!
This really helps a lot.
I just bought MHW with IB last month, and it hasn't been fun getting stuck fighting Barioth as a Dual Blades.
I've been thinking "should I learn the i-frames to approach at the risk of hating the game from constantly losing to Barioth?", and keep deciding that I should be upgrading my gear instead and not care about the i-frames because there is no safety net after trying to i-frame, so any attempts to get better with DB against Barioth would be filled with even more mistakes and causing more stress.
I didn't think that that i-frame window for rolls and Demon Dash is was short, tbh, considering how long the roll animation is.
You should check out our Barioth dodge video too, if you haven't yet!
th-cam.com/video/0GxdRWsED0M/w-d-xo.html
@@MonsterHunterPH Aye, I saw that after going through your vids. Was really helpful and got me through the fight.
One thing to note: it is generally preferable to NOT use s when dodging attacks, because if you manage to avoid an attack simply moving away from it by rolling earlier, you gain more "frame advantage", that being more time to counter-attack the monster, since you recovered earlier from your roll.
But that's boring and takes less skills
@@wallacesousuke1433 finding clever monster openings through positioning takes much more skill. Some velkhana runs the player manages to squeeze a tcs charge in between 2 ice walls for ex. Every decent player can most things.
@@tamago9026 "Every decent player can most things."
Having player with hundreds of players online, that couldnt be farther from the truth! Heck, even pro players fail to i-frame through roars and stuff every now a then..
Proper positioning and exploiting the limitations of AI definitely do not take more skills, not even close (even if they did, they're not as satisfying)
@@wallacesousuke1433 My last statement was definitely hyperbole. Most players can't perfectly roll through most things, so them doing so is impressive. But "pro" players or speedrunners, even though they sometimes misstime a roll, consistently dodge most things perfectly (9/10 times), and the few times where they do get hit is more often than not the result of a trade from a lengthy recovery or the result of attempting something much riskier than a simple roll.
Exploiting the limitations of AI is much more compelling because it requires much more creative and "outside the box" thinking than simply defaulting to "just roll the attack", and often requires godly positioning that takes considerably more skill than iframing an attack. For top players, perfectly rolling everything is a norm, it's not an "achievement", it's an expectancy; what differentiates them is their ability to find small optimizations in creative ways through their knowledge of the ai, to get that extra hit in on that specific punish.
th-cam.com/video/DXQpG4T5b14/w-d-xo.html
The 52 second mark of this video illustrates this, the player could have just simply rolled inside the ice wall, got 1 or 2 minor hits in or a charged hit during velk's recovery, but he instead positions himself perfectly in between the two walls and gets a tcs off. The positioning is much more subtle than timing a roll, and imo this is considerably more satisfying, on top of being objectively more optimal dps wise (its also sick af). This sort of crazy stuff happens all the time in top level play and its what makes high level monster hunter play so interesting to watch, the different ways to push the ai's limits as much as you can in your favor. To each their own though, just wanted to clarify my perspective.
So extender makes you roll further, more distance travelled with the same s... You do the math! I'd say it makes you clear moves more easily. Rolling hrough, as well as away.
That is correct, although I haven't dabbled too much with extender as I haven't found any moves that cannot be dodged without extender but CAN be dodged WITH it. It works really well with hops though, but it is a matter of preference.
@@MonsterHunterPH makes sense. I have trouble dodging stuff without evade window so I personally haven't used it yet. I don't want to learn bad habits. I usually get stuck in the active hit box, but after seeing you touch upon it, I am no longer tilted at that happening. It is part of the game, and I should just roll away :). Thanks for that!
Thanks for sharing this. True quality content and really useful.
Evade window helps a lot as well. :) I learned a lot of these on my own (also from me fucking up a lot). Having to do some of these without the need of Styles from MHGU takes a bit of practice, especially if you're use to Adept style.
Edit: oh! You already mentioned it~
Very interesting! Thanks for the vid!
Wow, good job! This video is really useful, thx!
I have almost 300 hours in this game and I legitimately thought the superman dive was the only Iframe move in the game.
This info has helped me tremendously on my new play through of the game.
Is this same for mhgu and mhfu?
Yes, the concept remains unchanged since the older games. However, just take note that the older games had even shorter iFrames which makes it relatively more difficult. For instance, in the older games, Diablos' roar cannot be dodged
@@MonsterHunterPH oh cool. Thanks for letting me know. Looking forward to devote my time to be a MOI monster hunter master like you.
How many "takes" did this video take? Be honest :)
On average it took 2-3 tries to record specific moves. The challenge is actually in getting a good camera angle while making the shot be very clear for the viewer, not dodging the moves themselves.
as a generally new player to Monster Hunter, I highly appreciate this guide on how not to die. it happens to me so often that i’m beginning to become an expert on dying.
also that sync tho 7:04
Yeah, i nutted in that part.
my take away from this video is this: same reaction time is needed for these dodges like parrying in demons souls was, welp im screwed then
Not necessarily, my friend. I find parrying in souls games much, much more difficult because of one thing: the enemy's attack animation.
For MonHun, almost every attack the monster will do will be highly telegraphed. Here are a few examples:
- A monster will do a tail swipe after you see it curve its body sideways with him looking a bit to the side.
- A monster will do a bite after you see it reel its head back a bit.
- A monster will do a lunge after you see it crouch a bit.
- There is always a special animation before a monster roars (except Yian Garuga lol).
There are many more tells and this is something all players can try and familiarize themselves with when practicing i-framing.
P.S. I have a reaction time of more than 200ms. The average gamer has around 150ish. All it takes is practice and familiarity, I'm sure you can do it too.
@@Mister_Taxman my point was when parrying in demons souls it felt like you had to parry it the frame just before it connects, i.e 1 ms reaction time, and you had to expose yourself completely to parry ;)
Wow, this is some amazing content. Keep it up, people. Anyone who loves MHW should be subscribed to this channel.
Thank you for the encouraging words. my friend!
This is without a doubt one of the well explained videos about the game system. Thanks and big love from *South* Korea
감사합니다! Thank your for the great feedback!
No way. That was crazy. I haven't been playing like this nor did I know you could...
Nice video, didn't know that longsword has a ton of s
9:17 hop frames for evade window are incorrect starting at EW2. Starting from EW2 ~ EW5 they're 14, 16, 19, 22. EW0, EW1, and evasion mantle are right
Very useful and the quality of this video is very good, did you use any reshade or texture mods ?
Can you share your graphic setting ? I turn mine all on or high and it looks ugly :D
@@quynhhoang1891 No texture mods but I did use a thing called "Special K Mod". I also do some post-editing on the videos to change the color a bit, so that could be why it looks different.
Thanks
Thank man for the guide. But yeah lance and gunlance have highest guard capability so it is make sense to has only 10 frame. Evasion skill will do trick
I came here to thank you for your excellent guides, thanks to you years ago i managed to solo iceborne with HH and leveled up my gameplay in a way i never thought was possible with a "support weapon". I really hope to see your amazing work again on Wilds it would be extremely helpful❤❤❤
Astig sir...
I've played 500 hours of MHW for 5 years, played 4 other previous monster hunter games and i've always tought these games DID NOT HAVE ANY i-frames and i've always just rolled out of the monster's attack path or ran away from it and i just tought this is how the games worked.
Ig s back slash s a dodge, mid air dodge, n probably t vault too.
Also most of the time the problem for me is that i dont know when to attack and i just end up point guarding/rolling the whole time
lol easier said than done, this video makes it look so much easier than it actually is
I’ve been trying so hard to do this without knowing when in the dodge the I-frames are at I was thinking maybe it’s when my back touched the ground and uh that was wrong now that I know that it is as soon as you start the dodge I should be nailing these
Very good Video, down to the point. Now i gotta practice, can't wait to get a headache from roars and getting shaked from swings haha
I love this mechanic in the game, one of the many things MHW has to offer.
Thank you for the feedback!
Yes, I love this mechanic as well and that's why I shy away from using the Rocksteady and the Temporal mantle. The feeling of successfully evading an attack is very exhilarating!
thanks, didnt even know evasion mantle is exists
also Iceborne's hitboxes are just ridiculous, the tigrex ones especially
I have a friend who's new to the game and having a hard time getting their dodges to work, and this is a really phenomenal video for both explaining and visualizing dodging really well. Unfortunately I just can't show it to them because it spoils every monster in the game, which is such a shame because it'd act as such a great crash course on how to dodge effectively.
Blown away, its like watching someone play with a cheat code!
Thanks for a very good tutorial. So good I can apply i-frames now in real life! I just "i-framed" my responsibilities and it worked! Thank you!!
thank you for this video, 4 years on. I was getting very frustrated and didnt understand how i was STILL being hit. I was rolling through attacks i should roll away from and vice versa. this is going to take some practice in the arena!
The evasion window data is fascinating. For just two points you can give swaxe hops a whopping 8 extra s. Real good info, even for seasoned veterans.
Considering taking that skill over evade extender now
You've earned a subscriber, your content is on point my friend.