@@VerloKz It's also the most important mechanic in the MH universe that defines how the game is played, mate. MH would be nothing wtihout this mechanic. As for why sound, specifically, it's 'cause roars from these lunged beasts have alot of air pressure. This is scene by how the grass and other plant life react in world, in addition to the fact that Tigrex's roar in previous games also could hurt you.
Oh dude we need an iceborne version, i doubt they all fit into their respective categories here there has to be some differences, that would be extremely nice, doing this consistently is nice for style and also free damage
Thank you for an actually useful video on tells for dodging roars. I’ve been looking everywhere for something like this and all I could find was advice that was either too general or unhelpful.
Very nice. It's gonna help a lot in my AT Teostra run. Can't count how many times the emperor stunned me with his roar before pouncing on me so hard! Thank you!
Great video, thanks for taking the time to figure this out. I have played for hundreds of hours and never nailed down the exact tells for dodging roars. That being said, the timing on doing this even knowing the animations, is still ridiculously tight.
Amazing video, thank you for actually showing the tells and cues to dodge the rolls in detail. Every other youtube video either talks vaguely or tells to study the monster just before the screen blurs as the roar stuns you, well then that's not a guide now, is it? This is a tutorial that actually shows what the monster does before roaring and when to actually dodge. Thank you, I am glad I am subscribed to you, please make more advanced mhw videos.
as a fellow musician boys out there in the wild who dodge roars, i salute you, i learned (and cried) before even watching your video albeit abit late (a whole year).
This is amazing. I am self aware enough to know I will likely never be good at that and will have to putter through with ear5. But people who can do this get mad player props from me.
Also noticed about roars, there are audio tells. There are these deep, guttural, inhales to prepare the player for an incoming roar before watching the visual cues. Kinda prevalent on Bazel and Diablos .
I give you a like just because you use Pokke village theme in the end, and no, I'm not crying okay!! Good video dude, I've always wanted to know if it was possible to time the roll.
Excellent guide, best I've seen yet. Still haven't gotten the hang of the Brute Wyvern roar though, especially Anjanath. I swear, it feels like that bastard gets the roar out in 1 frame XD
Thanls for this, been playing monster hunter since mhfu and I could dodge only qbout 1/15 times. In Monster hunter world about 5/15 times, but this helped practice more alot
Sounds queues are terrible I wish I've seen this way before I had so much trouble because of them. I just noticed it's like playing Mario kart you rely more on the lights of the 3 2 1 visuals than the beeps
Your videos have been a god send TTATT! I will practice this knowledge~! Also, any tells for Kulve Taroth's roar? When I enter the 2nd area and she does a roar, and then a stronger(?) roar a couple seconds, I always get stunned by that roar :< I think I'm pressing it too early, but do you have any tell tips to give?
Think of Kulve's roar as a slower Dodogama. I usually time it a split second after I hear the roar sound itself because the delay is quite significant. Once Iceborne releases, I may do a Roar Reloaded content where I revisit all monsters and do their roar timings one by one.
Yes but it depends on which monsters are having a turf war. For example, a Diablos vs Black Diablos Turf War always results in a Flying Wyvern Special Roar but a Diablos vs Deviljho will result in a Flying Wyvern normal roar. But timing-wise, it should still be the same.
How do you go about practicing this? the monsters don't roar often enough during a fight to get in good practice. If the monster just kept roaring it would be the fastest way to learn these.
@@Taxman_HH ahh thanks that's actually better than doing the entire fight. it's fine if it's a little tedious because I know that this is gonna take a bit of practice just was looking for a more efficient way ya know? Great channel btw especially the nergigante dodging tips lol helped me finally dodge some of his ridiculous attacks, and I thought the non AT nergigante was hard lmaooo.
Please do another one on MH rise, I heard that the I frames were less in mh rise. I could still dodge rath roars 8/10 times but the rest, anout 4/10 times
I mean that's neat and all. But as a lance and SnS user, my camera is literally in their chest and all I can usually see are their legs. So, It'll be impracticable for me to watch for little twitches of their pinky toe.
this is great and all, but the timing is too quick. It's like you have to know a little more than a split second if it's going to roar or not. Otherwise, you're just really waiting for the roar just so you can dodge it. If there is more indicators of when it's going to roar rather than looking for a twitching right claw, that would help a lot more.
Admittedly, this is true for brute wyvern roars because they come out very quick. But for the the other roars, they have a few seconds of windup animation that tells you something is about to come up. And mostly, monsters roar when they are about to go into rage mode or if they sustained enough damage. If you check out some of my Diablos runs in this channel, you can see that I can actually dodge the diablos roars because I know by feel and experience that certain roars come out after I've dealt enough damage on them.
So could you give some advice or tips on how to dodge the Teo and Luna roar when they have fire on their body? I don't clearly know the name of this kind of roar, but if compare with kushala is the roar and after that kushala will have have wind surround itself. For the Teo and Luna is have fire around them.
I just use earplugs, when your in the fight it's kinda hard and dangerous to just stop and pray to rng that you will Dodge it lol especially against a arch temp monsters. Awesome vid though.
You don't have time to be looking for these cues in a fight it's why I say it's rng cause your hoping and praying for it to work in the middle of a fight.
I did some testing in the past and found you only have around 7 frames (or 0.11 seconds) to react when you see the screen blur. On average, a normal human being needs at least 0.20 seconds to react, so I would say it is not a good basis for "reactive dodging" unless you are maybe a super human, haha. However, you can look at the screen blur and memorize the timing based on that. You can anticipate the blur and roll on that specific time.
@@vergil004 The best place to practice is on Special Arena - Optional Quests. Just keep abandoning quest after the monster roars. For Elder Dragons, just keep practicing on their own Optional Quests as well Its a good place to start with Flying Wyverns or with Nergigante first. They have nice timing and a good wind-up animation so you know the roar is coming.
Is this a new thing? Because if not, I'm gonna feel like a real dumbass for having played this series for 15 years and not realizing this was possible. ._.
![[MHW] Advanced Tips - Roars and Staggers - Flying Wyvern abuse](/img/n.gif)
00:09 Flying Wyvern Normal Roar
00:41 Flying Wyvern Special Roar
01:15 Fanged Wyvern Roar Dodogama
01:27 Fanged Wyvern Roar Odogaron & Tobi-Kadachi
01:41 Fanged Wyvern Rage Roar Odogaron
01:53 Brute Wyvern Normal Roar
02:13 Brute Wyvern Rage Roar Radobaan & Uragaan
02:31 Elder Dragon Roar Kushala Daora & Teostra
03:05 Elder Dragon Roar Nergigante
03:26 Elder Dragon Roar Nergigante Dive Roar
03:46 Some Important Notes
I heard that you can't dodge Xeno jiva even with evade window. Is that true?
Dodging roars has one of the most satisfying things to do in this game.
yap with my LS..
@@odiplato2394 LS has 45 s, normal roll has 12
@@RomanGuro looks like it was sarcasim
and one that makes the least sense. dive is fine, cause you cover your head, but how should a roll help your ears?
@@Carsu12
Maybe they cover their ears mid roll
This is what I'm searching for. Perfect demonstration and detailed description. Thanks for your good work.
Are these timing also work with bow's dodging?
@@ymc4603 Thank you for the kind feedback! Yes, these timings are exactly the same for the Bow Charge Step too
The day i'll get to a single roar..... abandon quest - turn off pc - take wife & kids out for dinner to celebrate.
Have you done it yet?
So, have you done it yet?
Nice to see gamer father
guys calm down he is obviously still celebrating
9 months ago, I'm curious, have you done it yet?
Alternatively, you can watch the pixel reflection in the monster's iris as it turns 4° to the right, and then simply roll
Im dead, this is too funny! I see how he looks for tells. but damn, its so quick and subtle. Am I old now, tf
So, you can Dodge sound......
Of course you can, I learned this in dance school LOL
@@Taxman_HH I dont understand it overall... Worst Mechanic in the MH Universe. like in a jump. u fell like it rock to the ground. so dumb
@@VerloKz It's also the most important mechanic in the MH universe that defines how the game is played, mate. MH would be nothing wtihout this mechanic.
As for why sound, specifically, it's 'cause roars from these lunged beasts have alot of air pressure. This is scene by how the grass and other plant life react in world, in addition to the fact that Tigrex's roar in previous games also could hurt you.
You're telling me every time your mom called you answered?
@@kohlrak
The roar even hurls you into the air like how the fuck is it that strong 😂
Oh dude we need an iceborne version, i doubt they all fit into their respective categories here there has to be some differences, that would be extremely nice, doing this consistently is nice for style and also free damage
now i cant unsee the teo and kush doing jazz hands
i must practice this. not needing earplugs 5 ever is a good thing
Watch this video at speed 0.5, it helps a lot.
but then I feel unskilled for twice as long
Easier if you use earplugs then you don't have worry about it.
@@akarti813 putting in earplugs means you'll lose much more dps 🤷
@@Gwynsladle yes, but dodging a roar is pretty dangerous since its pretty luck if you dodge it or not.
@@akarti813IG is the only weapon that using earplugs is understandable
Thank you for an actually useful video on tells for dodging roars. I’ve been looking everywhere for something like this and all I could find was advice that was either too general or unhelpful.
Very nice. It's gonna help a lot in my AT Teostra run. Can't count how many times the emperor stunned me with his roar before pouncing on me so hard! Thank you!
Great video, thanks for taking the time to figure this out. I have played for hundreds of hours and never nailed down the exact tells for dodging roars. That being said, the timing on doing this even knowing the animations, is still ridiculously tight.
Amazing video, thank you for actually showing the tells and cues to dodge the rolls in detail. Every other youtube video either talks vaguely or tells to study the monster just before the screen blurs as the roar stuns you, well then that's not a guide now, is it?
This is a tutorial that actually shows what the monster does before roaring and when to actually dodge. Thank you, I am glad I am subscribed to you, please make more advanced mhw videos.
The outro music
Freedom 2?
@@clydegrey5061 MHF, MHF2, MHFU
Welcome back to Pokke Village.
I love how you put mhfu village song in the outro, where back in the day evade +2 was like a godskill. I miss that game :(
as a fellow musician boys out there in the wild who dodge roars, i salute you, i learned (and cried) before even watching your video albeit abit late (a whole year).
This is amazing. I am self aware enough to know I will likely never be good at that and will have to putter through with ear5. But people who can do this get mad player props from me.
Amazing guide. Looking for visual ques like this will get you very far in any game you can roll or dodge through/away from attacks.
Also noticed about roars, there are audio tells. There are these deep, guttural, inhales to prepare the player for an incoming roar before watching the visual cues. Kinda prevalent on Bazel and Diablos
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I give you a like just because you use Pokke village theme in the end, and no, I'm not crying okay!!
Good video dude, I've always wanted to know if it was possible to time the roll.
Bruh. The sound of home. Im crying wyvern tears rn
i thought i was the only person who wants to try this hard on this fantastic game =3.
thank you for making such a concise video
It's the best roar dogde Guide in my life. Thx !!!
Excellent guide, best I've seen yet. Still haven't gotten the hang of the Brute Wyvern roar though, especially Anjanath. I swear, it feels like that bastard gets the roar out in 1 frame XD
These downvoters are probably too noob to follow this incredible demo.
Haha, don't mind them man, what's important is we have people who appreciate what we do.
Thanks for the support!
That was awesome thank for the video very helpful. I’ve been playing MH for a long time and still suck at dodging monster attacks xD
This is a really neat & informative video!
Omg, this is exactly what i was looking for, didnt expect to find a video like this. Thank you so much, you're doing god's work 👍
Super useful and well explained. Thank you so much!
Thanks @Monster Hunter World PH Elites,
Awesome Guides for the rolling out roar, hope to see more guide from you all :)
Much appreciated! We are indeed thinking up of more informational content in the future
Absurd amount of work here guys! Absolutely loving those info❤️ thanks a lot!
Thanls for this, been playing monster hunter since mhfu and I could dodge only qbout 1/15 times. In Monster hunter world about 5/15 times, but this helped practice more alot
This is awesome, thanks! I’ve been able to dodge some of the roars, but never with consistency
Thank you Very Much. Such a cool video. Do you plan on doing more content like this? Subbed just incase.
Salamat sa guide and tips! Can’t wait to try these out in Rise. :D
damn, brute wyverns has such little wind up time for their roars
You are the boss, thanks for that amazing video.
Such an useful video! Thanks!
Roar dodging is basically necessary if you're soloing an AT with a ranged weapon. They just roar and casually one shot you way too often.
You have no idea how many time it happened to me
Thank you for the tutorial! It was really well made! :)
i love the music in the end
This is so fucking helpful I can't even begin to describe it.
There needs to be one for MHGU. dodging in “old school” titles feels so... unnecessarily tight.
That MHFU music is so nostalgic 💕
Awesome video thank you just killed AT nerg after this because i dodges all his one shot roars
I wish that was my problem with AT Nerg. Lol
You are a legend bro thanks a lot I was raging a lot cuz of bullshit roars. Please make more content like this
A very useful video, thank you!
Me brain: ookey got it!
Me hands: No you don't
Great tut nice job very simple yet very informative.
*Monster is about to roar.
*Me spams dodge
Great video. Good job.
This is very helpful.
Thank you
If demon mode dashes have the same s as a roll, the Vaal roars *can* be rolled with base evasion s, but it requires literally frame perfect input
Frame perfect at what fps? 30? 60?
@@MahoganyTooth92 60, I play on PC
Demon mode dash has one more i-frame than base roll, assuming 60 fps
Wow good job, playing since release and didn’t know you can actually roll through roars lol.
oof
Same
Quality content. Keep it up guys!
thank you so much
. . .ahaha awit ulo lang lagi tinitingnan ko ,nakaka-tiyamba naman ako minsan ahaha pero salamat susubokan ko na ngayon.
Lol my reaction times are terrible. Maybe this will help me practice bettering them 😂
I play monster hunter since monster hunter Freedom and didnt even know you can do a normal roll to dodge a roar...
Earplug skill goes brrrr
Pls update more when iceborne monsters are out 👍👍👍
Will do
@@Taxman_HH thanks!! 🐱
Me: Laughs in Foresight Slash
Sounds queues are terrible I wish I've seen this way before I had so much trouble because of them. I just noticed it's like playing Mario kart you rely more on the lights of the 3 2 1 visuals than the beeps
Thanks, mate.
i played till teostra and didnt even know that you can dodge that -.-
Thank you for the great vids. Just found the channel auto sub🎼 🎷
Your videos have been a god send TTATT! I will practice this knowledge~! Also, any tells for Kulve Taroth's roar? When I enter the 2nd area and she does a roar, and then a stronger(?) roar a couple seconds, I always get stunned by that roar :< I think I'm pressing it too early, but do you have any tell tips to give?
Think of Kulve's roar as a slower Dodogama. I usually time it a split second after I hear the roar sound itself because the delay is quite significant.
Once Iceborne releases, I may do a Roar Reloaded content where I revisit all monsters and do their roar timings one by one.
@@Taxman_HH I must...practice...moar!!!
Are there differences between regular roars and the roars monsters do when starting a turf war?
Yes but it depends on which monsters are having a turf war. For example, a Diablos vs Black Diablos Turf War always results in a Flying Wyvern Special Roar but a Diablos vs Deviljho will result in a Flying Wyvern normal roar. But timing-wise, it should still be the same.
I had no idea this could be done!! Do you need any earplug skill level to make this possible or no?
No earplugs nor evade window needed! Give it a try and let us know if it helped you out
Also me tryin to dodge with lv 3 evade window: *gets stunned"
Astig, salamat salamat!!!
Its impossible to dodge Nergigante roars im struggling so hard trying to dodge
How do you go about practicing this? the monsters don't roar often enough during a fight to get in good practice. If the monster just kept roaring it would be the fastest way to learn these.
It may be tedious but the fastest way is to simply start a quest, let the monster roar, and leave. Then repeat.
@@Taxman_HH ahh thanks that's actually better than doing the entire fight. it's fine if it's a little tedious because I know that this is gonna take a bit of practice just was looking for a more efficient way ya know?
Great channel btw especially the nergigante dodging tips lol helped me finally dodge some of his ridiculous attacks, and I thought the non AT nergigante was hard lmaooo.
I usually go by feel.
Its like a 15% success rate but
Please do another one on MH rise, I heard that the I frames were less in mh rise. I could still dodge rath roars 8/10 times but the rest, anout 4/10 times
Thank you :D
I mean that's neat and all. But as a lance and SnS user, my camera is literally in their chest and all I can usually see are their legs. So, It'll be impracticable for me to watch for little twitches of their pinky toe.
Salamat
this is great and all, but the timing is too quick. It's like you have to know a little more than a split second if it's going to roar or not. Otherwise, you're just really waiting for the roar just so you can dodge it. If there is more indicators of when it's going to roar rather than looking for a twitching right claw, that would help a lot more.
Admittedly, this is true for brute wyvern roars because they come out very quick. But for the the other roars, they have a few seconds of windup animation that tells you something is about to come up. And mostly, monsters roar when they are about to go into rage mode or if they sustained enough damage. If you check out some of my Diablos runs in this channel, you can see that I can actually dodge the diablos roars because I know by feel and experience that certain roars come out after I've dealt enough damage on them.
So could you give some advice or tips on how to dodge the Teo and Luna roar when they have fire on their body? I don't clearly know the name of this kind of roar, but if compare with kushala is the roar and after that kushala will have have wind surround itself. For the Teo and Luna is have fire around them.
That's the rage roar and they do a "Wiggly Wiggly" animation. The dodge is timed around half a second after the wiggle animation if you time it right
I just use earplugs, when your in the fight it's kinda hard and dangerous to just stop and pray to rng that you will Dodge it lol especially against a arch temp monsters. Awesome vid though.
but its not rng ur timing the I-frames on the roll to come out the same time as the roar hit.
You don't have time to be looking for these cues in a fight it's why I say it's rng cause your hoping and praying for it to work in the middle of a fight.
This is hard. My brain hurts
Oh so I dont need earplugs?
Really hate that sound cues is not a thing for roars...
this is the 2nd roar video I watched.... so basically just dodge the moment ur screen blurs?
I did some testing in the past and found you only have around 7 frames (or 0.11 seconds) to react when you see the screen blur. On average, a normal human being needs at least 0.20 seconds to react, so I would say it is not a good basis for "reactive dodging" unless you are maybe a super human, haha.
However, you can look at the screen blur and memorize the timing based on that. You can anticipate the blur and roll on that specific time.
okok so to dodge (roll) just roll when the screen blurs. how about mid combo, like for example the foresight slash from the ls?
You want to dodge slightly before your screen blurs. Foresight evades it. If youre stuck in a combo youre stuck in a combo xD
Ya I noticed I cant rlly dodge when the screen blurs and also I don't know when a monster will scream
@@lasagnasupreme2737 It's tricky to see when all you see are scales and fur, true
And how exactly are you supposed to do that when playing gunlance?
Block
I'm not good at gauging their body language. I tend to go earplugs but I'll try it
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
k i really dunno we can dodge through roars til now,
also should i continue using earplug skill?
If you feel more comfortable with earplugs on, then there's nothing wrong in continuing using it.
which mechanic do i compare it to for kulve taroth? btw, still practicing avoiding roars, its not just timing but u have to react quickly.
Think of Kulve's roar as a slower dodogama
Monster Hunter World PH Elites salamat sir!
where should i practice this? monster only roar 2-3 times a fight.. im trying legiana but i always fail after the foot drops.
@@vergil004 The best place to practice is on Special Arena - Optional Quests. Just keep abandoning quest after the monster roars. For Elder Dragons, just keep practicing on their own Optional Quests as well
Its a good place to start with Flying Wyverns or with Nergigante first. They have nice timing and a good wind-up animation so you know the roar is coming.
Monster Hunter World PH Elites thanks! will try that sir
**Laughs in level 5 Earplugs**
Ew only noobs use that skill.
@@angelofdeath7751 not if you play GS
@@arubatorion_ I've seen greatsword users Dodge it before you'll live.
@@angelofdeath7751 the point is having it so that your true charge doesnt get interrupted.
@@arubatorion_ Greatsword you can literally tackle roars LOL Earplugs is an absolute waste on GS
The best way to dodge roars is to earplug your build =D
God no
neat
hey PHI hunters.
may discord ba tayo sa ps4?
Is this a new thing? Because if not, I'm gonna feel like a real dumbass for having played this series for 15 years and not realizing this was possible. ._.
ty, need more views
the more i know
Doesn’t really work for MH4U... especially Rathalos..
Yes, this is only for MHW timings. The old games had significantly different timings.