Forgotten History: The Native Conquistadores (Sub. Español)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2019
  • Mexican historian Miguel León Portilla once said "The Conquest was done by the natives themselves" when talking about the fall of the Aztec Triple Alliance. To understand the truth behind that quote, let's take a look to one of the less explored aspects of the European conquest and colonization of the New World; The native allies.
    To learn more:
    On the myths of the Conquest
    www.letraslibres.com/espana-m... (in Spanish)
    On native collaboration with the Spaniards in Mesoamerica
    books.google.com.mx/books?id=...
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  • @Felipe2000-r6k
    @Felipe2000-r6k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Spanish Conquest of the America's wouldn't have happened the way it did if it weren't for Native Allies of the Spanish. I read in the Philippines that the Tlaxcalans even aided the Spanish in the conquest there too. Very fascinating.

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Indeed. In fact, I mentioned the Tlaxcaltec troops in the Philippines and other places conquered by Spain; and well, we are only starting to recover the memory of the native American conquistadores, and how natives helped to shape not only the colonial American world, but also the modern political and economic map of the New World.

  • @AztlanHistorian
    @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    CORRECTION:
    At 5:44 I said that the Almagro-Pizarro's army laid siege on Cuzco; when in reality it was the Inca army the one laying siege on Spanish-occupied Cuzco. The troops trapped with Pizarro and Almagro inside Cuzco were still mainly indigenous and the statistics I mention in the video are correct, nevertheless I wanted to correct the mistake I made when I said that the Hispano-Indigenous troops were attacking city instead of defending it.
    Sorry about that :)

  • @ayinstrumentals7731
    @ayinstrumentals7731 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I can tell you did some serious research for this video. You deserve way more views!

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the support! It's always nice to get recognition for one's work :)

  • @troydodson9641
    @troydodson9641 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I found you after your pop in on Ancient Americas. Real respect to you, who would do their best to recollect the events of true history without romanticizing or demonizing. Thanks!

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I try my best to present the most objective and humane view of history I can. Hope you keep supporting my work :)

  • @gurugru5958
    @gurugru5958 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is very enlightening. It never made sense that 1000 guys could conquer so vast of land.

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yet, there are many who still believe that nonsense

  • @ibnyahud
    @ibnyahud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes!
    Great video!
    I'm so sad about the sorry state of modern public school history education in most countries, not teaching properly or clarifying these things.
    Thank God for YT! I can't tell you how much more sense history makes after watching channels like yours.
    Just continue your tremendous work, and one day you will be one of those big popular history YT channels.
    -Greeting from a Taino descendant lol

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the compliment. Hope you continue enjoying my work :)

  • @Aiasmor
    @Aiasmor 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. Thank you for publishing this almost forgotten part of history.

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good interpretation as usual you are a great host and channel you deserve way more likes, subscribers, comments, representations and other positive things keep up the great work buddy

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for your words and your support Matt :)

  • @johannescuellar9021
    @johannescuellar9021 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you aztlan historian for these videos. You’re my recent discovery through the channel ancient americas and been watching regularly ever since! I hope more people do too

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the compliment. And yeah, I'll also do my best to keep this channel growing

  • @historycenter4011
    @historycenter4011 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very good video. I didnt know that the conquest of the Inca also had mostly native troops. Very epic!

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And if Alvarado was successful, some of those fighting in the Spanish side would've been Maya. Imagine that...

    • @historycenter4011
      @historycenter4011 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @First name last name Irrelevant, but okay!

  • @metrobusman
    @metrobusman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely brilliant. Thank you.

  • @giuseppelogiurato5718
    @giuseppelogiurato5718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for making English videos; I would not have found this if it had been made in Spanish... I am glad to hear all the Nahuatl words pronounced naturally, and I am very used to understanding English as it is pronounced by Romance speakers (aka, my family), so this was not difficult to understand. 👍🇺🇲❤️🇲🇽

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, at least you guessed I'm a Hispanophone, other people have deduced I'm Russian from my accent. Greetings

    • @giuseppelogiurato5718
      @giuseppelogiurato5718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣 Russian? I don't think there are very many Russian people who would use the word "Aztlan"... But, maybe, if you go back far enough, maybe the original Aztlan was located somewhere in Siberia, which is kinda like Russia... (Actually, I think "Aztlan" is really a place, to the north of the Anahuac region, and it's never going to be identified as a specific location.) Saludes

    • @giuseppelogiurato5718
      @giuseppelogiurato5718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course, I'm not ruling out the possibility that Huitzilopochtli is indeed a unique spiritual entity that specifically chose the Mexica people to perceive and serve and communicate with him... It's not not that different than YHWH and the Jewish people, imo... I'm not discounting the validity of anyone's spirituality.
      (My favorite is Chalchiutlicue... She's nice, in her way.)

    • @giuseppelogiurato5718
      @giuseppelogiurato5718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AztlanHistorian I like your accent. It's easy to understand, and it has character. Are you not from Mexico? (I just assumed, because of the "Aztlan" thing, lol). Your English is MUCH better than my Spanish, trust me. 👍

    • @giuseppelogiurato5718
      @giuseppelogiurato5718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What I was trying to say was: "thank you for not DESTROYING the words/names, as most narrators tend to do. Nahuatl is such a pretty language, when it's not mutilated."

  • @robert9016
    @robert9016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have a hell of a backlog my friend!!! Thanks for all your research

  • @user-ny5cu5ol1p
    @user-ny5cu5ol1p 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How prevalent were indian settlements in northern Mexico? Were there more indian settlers than whites and mestizos, or was it just mainly Spaniards? I'm guessing the demographics of migration to the north changed during the colonial period.

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Most settlements were mixed, featuring a small European group and a majority of indigenous inhabitants; which were a mix of indios amigos and local converted natives.
      In areas like Coahuila and New Mexico, the presence of indios amigos was more intense than in places like Sonora, where the local natives made the majority of the settlements' population.
      Also settlements varied in size and purpose, some were forts (called presidios), others were reductions (missions in which European priests relocated native people) and others were regular frontier towns.
      And yes, population changed across the Colonial period, becoming incresingly white and Mestizo; with a decreasing presence of indios amigos. also eventually other groups arrived in the area, including African slaves and their mixed free descendants.

    • @chrisr6142
      @chrisr6142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I recommend you check out the writings of Michael Mathiowetz and Steve Lekson (primarily the first one) to learn about the deep connections in religion between the southwest and what we more properly think of as Mexico. You will see that migrations of people, goods, and ideas go back farther than colonial times. However, during colonial times, Nahuatl continued being the common language of Mesoamerica.

    • @elyaqui5324
      @elyaqui5324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In places like Sonora some of the Native Tribes like the Yaqui, Comanche we're never conquered cause of the terrain the Indians used that to there advantage.

  • @alexanderkorol677
    @alexanderkorol677 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone please tell me the name of the painting at 5:40 and the person who painted it please? Thanks in advance.

  • @flemas8681
    @flemas8681 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Soundtrack pls

  • @TonyfromTO
    @TonyfromTO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need more information on nawat and chorotega campaigns into panama and the andes

  • @Axel55501
    @Axel55501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As the first video im watching from you, I was expecting a very biased video with this particular theme, but seeing that you mention that mesoamericans participated not only in conquest of other native americans, but also in the Philippines make me quickly understand that you know what you are talking about.
    Also Im guessing you are either a formal history student or a professional in the matter, but do you have some books to recommend me that talk about when did native americans got displaced in the matter of politics, because afaik some indigenous retained their titles as lets say "counts", "marquis", or "dukes" but from what I understand by the Borbon reformation there were virtually no indigenous nobles ruling in the colonies.

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed my video. I'm actually just a history buff, but I've spent more than 20 years studying the Americas in general and Mexico in particular.
      On the native nobility, they didn't go away, but they were largely deprived from their titles through political maneuvers, or got assimilated among the Criollos (Whites) as Europeans often married local noble women to acquire land rights.
      Also, those who survived without losing their native identity weren't part of the ruling elites, as those were dictated by the Crown with an obvious preference for Europeans; but they remained as part of the landowning class and managed to stay wealthy.
      If you want to read more check the works of Michel Oudjik. He's probably the best author on native roles during the Spanish colonial era.
      Greetings

    • @Axel55501
      @Axel55501 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AztlanHistorian Thank you o debería decir gracias, por lo que vi en otros videos tuyos, también eres de México, voy a checar los trabajos de ese Michel Oudjik.
      Pues si tal como tu lo mencionabas (Me lo imaginaba), los nobles mesoamericanos retuvieron sus tierras y probablemente pasaron rápidamente a ser feudos o como eran llamados en esos tiempos "encomiendas" con su respectiva heráldica y títulos, pero como eran nobles seguramente el matrimonio con los peninsulares y criollos se dio mucho para (como todavía dicen algunos) "mejorar la raza", y seguramente con el paso del tiempo se debieron parecer mas a los criollos que a sus ancestros indígenas o incluso a la mayoría mestiza de la actualidad. O como dices que los que si quisieron mantenerse apegados a la parte mesoamericana que con intrigas de la política les fueran despojando sus títulos.
      De nuevo gracias checare los trabajos de Michel por que yo también soy un aficionado a la historia pero no un profesional.
      Saludos

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Axel55501 Es bueno ver que alguien entiende que la encomienda era una institucion feudal, mucha gente la trata de comparar mas con los Gulag sovieticos o con la esclavitud de los negros; pero eso sería un error.
      Los nativos en encomienda eran siervos, no propiedad del encomendero, y sus tierras eran de ellos, no del encomendero. Esa es la principal diferencia con el feudalismo a secas.
      Espero el trabajo de Oudjik te de la informacion que necesites, y en cuando a la cuestion de "mejorar la raza", esa es una tendencia post-colonial. Desafortunadamente el racismo mexicano moderno es mas un producto del Mexico independiente que de la Colonia :(
      Saludos paisano

  • @hiddenhist
    @hiddenhist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I guess you could call this history... *Hidden* ? No? I’ll see myself out. 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe, maybe :D

    • @klip8726
      @klip8726 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      this nigga hidden in the comments

  • @elyaqui5324
    @elyaqui5324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find it very funny how Geronimo is considered An American Hero
    When he was Born In Sonora.
    Now I'm only saying this cause alot of ignorant people do not consider Native Americans from Mexico, well Native Americans.
    And yet they can pick and choose who they want to consider American.

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Leaving aside how Americans (regardless of background) may understand the term "America"; Geronimo's birthplace is still debated, as some say he was born in New Mexico and others that he was born in southern Arizona.
      And as for him being "Mexican", well, even if he was born in Arizona or New Mexico and not in Sonora, he would still be technically Mexican as when he was born (1829) those lands were claimed by Mexico, although the Apache never accepted Mexican rule.

  • @elyaqui5324
    @elyaqui5324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's funny how Historians the ones that were not there obviously
    Are rewriting the History of The Ones who were there.

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How funny is that you assume that history is written by people who "were there". Also, historians are the ones working to recover the history that has been lost or supressed by colonizers and elites; after all, no one who was actually there is still alive to tell what happened.