Forgotten History: Discovering the "Olmec" (Sub. Español)

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  • The Tenocelome, most commonly known as Olmec, have been on of the most intriguing subjects in Mesoamerican archaeology. And reflect of that is the strange history of the ideas that academics have elaborated around this ancient culture.
    To learn more:
    On Jose Melgar y Serrano
    www.researchgate.net/publicat... (in Spanish)
    On the Tenocelome:
    books.google.com.mx/books?id=... (in Spanish)
    On Tenocelome mtDNA
    arqueologiamexicana.mx/mexico... (In Spanish)
    The Mixe-Zoquean identity of the Tenocelome
    repositorio.cesmeca.mx/bitstre... (In Spanish)
    On Zhang He's work:
    sino-platonic.org/complete/spp...
    Don't forget to visit my DeviantArt page!
    - www.deviantart.com/aztlanhist...
    and my Discord forum
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    DISCLAIMER: All materials used on this video belong to their respective creators. This video was made for educative purposes only
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  • @Thrashdragon
    @Thrashdragon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Awesome video, I’m surprised there are still scholars who still believe that the Olmec culture doesn’t have a mezzo American origin, it seems like an antiquated colonial concept too me

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Glad you enjoyed the video, and yeah, I agree with you on that. It's sad to see people supposedly dedicated to education and science to keep disproven proposals alive as if they were proven facts, denying any scientific evidence out of their personal beliefs and agendas.
      Afrocentrics, Sinocentrics and Eurocentrics need to disappear from academia, but we still have a long way to go before we can leave all those biases behind for good.
      PD: It's written "Mesoamerican" :)

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Olmecs deserve much more attention then they get now

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I couldn't agree more

    • @lopezfamily0911
      @lopezfamily0911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      omg ikr there so cool people need to see the cooles about this

  • @EmethMatthew
    @EmethMatthew 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wow, I never realized there were so many "Olmec" peoples... Thanks for the disambiguation and the further discussion of this ancient civilization.

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was my pleasure. Glad you liked the video!

  • @Daveomabegin
    @Daveomabegin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The content in this video is so important. I find it alarming that anti-scientific conspiracies and ideas are trafficked online, so I'm so happy that your video gives all of the evidence needed to show that the achievements of ancient Mexican peoples belong to Mexico--nobody else. 😊✊🏻

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll oppose pseudoscience whenever it shows its ugly face. Greetings!

  • @M.M.83-U
    @M.M.83-U 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, knowledge improuved a lot by the last time (late '90) i feed about mesoamerica. Great work!

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Indeed, and lot's of new discoveries are being made! :)
      Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @bluefish4999
    @bluefish4999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting how the "Olmec" becomes so much deeper as you dig in, I really hope to get back to the Museo Nacional de Antropologia as I've learned so much from the first time I was there, a lot through Michael D Coe. I also have Miguel Covarrubias's book The Eagle, The Jaguar, and the Serpent. It makes a good case of Pacific diffusion through artistic motifs, maybe going both ways.

  • @kmaher1424
    @kmaher1424 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to hear Miguel Covarrubias mentioned.
    I greatly admire how he put his artistic talent to work to serve archeology and anthropology ...

  • @liliman-moli615
    @liliman-moli615 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Here's my like good man, you deserve it 😉😉😉
    La verdad se necesita más canales de este tipo, ilustrativos de la historia sobre la tierra que nos vio nacer ☺️☺️☺️

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      En efecto. Este canal esta dedicado a toda América y bueno, hay muchos eventos e historias que necesitan ser contados; y es para eso que cree este canal ;)
      Espero sigas disfrutando de mi trabajo en el futuro. ¡Saludos!

  • @lopezfamily0911
    @lopezfamily0911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you so much you dont know how hard it is to find a vid like this

  • @mansionwb
    @mansionwb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ¡Genial!

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me alegre que os guste el vídeo. ¡Saludos!

  • @timvanrijn8239
    @timvanrijn8239 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am very impressed
    like light on a dark place of history
    i feel the picture has grown, thanks you

  • @qus.9617
    @qus.9617 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I learnt so much about Olmec civilisation and it's findings in one of your videos. Wow. great job. Btw have you seen the "lost kingdoms of the central america"... "kingdom of the jaguars". What did you think about it's historical accuracy?

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad you enjoyed the video. It really took a lot of research to make :)
      I watched that documentary some time ago, and generally speaking I think it's fairly good, but if I'm not mistaken it treats the Tenocelome as a political monolith, something more akin to an empire; and that's a model that has been largely abandoned by academics.
      Our understanding of the Tenocelome has improved a lot in these last years, so models and theories can change in a very short time as new evidence is analized by researchers; so who knows how much are we gonna learn about them in the foreseeable future.

  • @saltyshanker
    @saltyshanker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I learned a lot of stuff from this video . Keep it up :)

    • @earlymanproductions8863
      @earlymanproductions8863 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SaltyShanker Wonton!

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your support Salty!

    • @saltyshanker
      @saltyshanker 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@earlymanproductions8863 yes, it is me :)

    • @klip8726
      @klip8726 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SaltyShanker ayo whats good b

    • @saltyshanker
      @saltyshanker 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@klip8726 is that my BOI jfk ?

  • @lopezfamily0911
    @lopezfamily0911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    most kids : (⌐■_■)
    me : ✪ ω ✪

  • @tommy-er6hh
    @tommy-er6hh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great video, i learned from it. But...could you make your sign smaller, or last less long so we can see ALL the picture?

  • @HistoryandHeadlines
    @HistoryandHeadlines 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting o learn something new about a civilization I am not that familiar with!

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Tenocelome are a very interesting part of Mesoamerican history, yet they haven't received the attention they deserve in my humble opinion.
      Hope you keep enjoying my work. Greetings!

    • @HistoryandHeadlines
      @HistoryandHeadlines 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AztlanHistorian Indeed! Have a Happy New Year!

  • @TonyfromTO
    @TonyfromTO ปีที่แล้ว

    👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
    So yucca came before corn makes sense.🌽🍠
    Would be nice to hear all the pseudohistorical migration and peopling models throughout time such as the phoenicians colonizing the Americas.

  • @erendiranigarcia8326
    @erendiranigarcia8326 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I ask what song you use at the very end of the video?

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry. I honestly don't remember the name of the song. I look for music every time I make a video and I never keep the track hehehe

  • @peterk.9571
    @peterk.9571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Somewhat related, but what is your opinion on the Totozoquean hypothesis (including Chitimacha)? Also, where were the (proto-)Totonac located during the Early Formative Period?

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've barely read on that subject to be honest; but I find that theory quite fascinanting. If true, it would revolutionize our understanding of the pre-Columbian societies of North America, but we still need more studies and evidence before accepting or discarding it :)

  • @lopezfamily0911
    @lopezfamily0911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is school but fun ✪ ω ✪

  • @giuseppelogiurato5718
    @giuseppelogiurato5718 ปีที่แล้ว

    My home town in southern California (Covina) is "sister cities" with a town in Oaxaca, and they sent us a full size reproduction of their local "Olmec head" as part of a gift-exchange... When I was kid, he was displayed in front of the police station, (although they might have moved it since), so I thought he was a statue of some sort of Mexican cop, like the guy on CHiPs 🙄🤣🇺🇲❤️🇲🇽!

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว

      Just to clarify Covina's Mexican sister city is actually Xalapa, which is Veracruz, not Oaxaca.
      Greetings!