No Joke, Mike.... I'm the host on my employers fairly large TH-cam channel and one day while filming a product intro - in the span of 30 minutes, I had a train, somebody shooting an assault rifle, a giant flock of blackbirds so loud you couldn't hear, and for the finalé, a 25 minute garage band drum solo directly across the street. Like Travis Barker level noise and cadence. Unreal 😂
Specialized is killing it with all their new offerings. This Stumpy looks on point! Way to keep the weight down too, kind of silly to see these 130, 140mm rear travel bikes coming in at 32, 33 pounds.
I am happy that we are talking about all these grams, when I have to lug a backpack of water that weighs nearly 2 kilos, and my own body weight which shows no signs of reduction. Maybe bike companies should look into marketing "Premium psyllium husk" for race day performance. But the bike looks gorgeous though.
So true! Also noteworthy - he says “millimeters of travel” not “mils of travel” as all too many reviewers do. After all, 130 Mils would be 3.3mm of not even XC worthy travel. Thank you for the accurate reporting!
So glad this bike came out... I sold my 2020 Stumpy Expert which felt small... couldn't keep momentum... and climbed like shit. Started shopping the SB130... but stock is low. Now this new 2021 Stumpy has my full attention...
Most likely that Specialized have conducted accelerated fatigue testing, perhaps in an environmental chamber as well, to validate the design. If any of you are familiar with Formula 1 design history, this reminds me of when John Barnard introduced the flex pivot for front suspension wishbones in place of traditional spherical bearings. Many doubters at first; it’s now common place!
Waaay better than aloominum. Well laminated carbon composite essentially has unlimited fatigue life almost up to it's compression failure point. This flex stay barely flexes at all. (And, no, I'm not just an armchair expert on this ;-) )
The epics commonly fail at the flex point. Considering the stumpy is aimed towards more aggressive riders I am expecting the same results in less time.
@CHELSKI9 I'm 179cm tall and I went with a S4. I enjoy XC a lot and was told that size would suit my "style" the most. It's a great bike, extremely light and pedal efficient! :)
I'd love to hear how that rear flex works with a heavy rider. I've been riding the Transition Spur and I love it but I'm about 200 lbs, and when I lock out the rear it kind of does a weird oscillating thing when I'm grinding on it. My theory is that the Transition is tuned to an average weight rider, so it misbehaves a little under heavier stress. Wonder if this bike would behave similarly.
I got to ride this bike a couple weeks ago and oh man it's so much damn fun! Took the last model and just improved on everything, much stiffer, much more playful and pedals like bike that pedals real good!
@@partyongarth0 Dont be warned off though because it's plenty capable, rode this one and the evo back to back on some really rooty and rocky northeast single-track and while the evo was faster I had more fun on this bike with its playfulness. Really had a hard time finding the limit on this bike where it starts to slow you down, any normal trail system or even all mountain style trail with long ups and fun downs would be great on this bike.
@@pjsanab I havn't ridden a dw link yet so I can't say much for that, what I've heard is the the dw is still a bit more effective but at this point we're talking small margins. I personally like it better than the infinity linkage system yeti uses, to me there feels like less play(stiffer rear end then yeti) and I'm a fan of less complexity as well. One thing for sure is the amount of side load on the shock is greatly reduced from the horst linkage and you can feel the difference
pjsanab I rode the ripmo before purchasing the 2019 stumpjumper and the ripmo felt like a bigger bike but not as plush. In fact the back end of the ripmo felt quite harsh over the small bumps almost like a hardtail and I tried playing around with sag and compression but it didn’t help. I wear a chamois and I’m used to riding 6h+ in the saddle and after a day on the ripmo my ass was really sore. However the ripmo was more supportive in the mid stroke and took big hits better. But this is vs the 2019 stumpy which has 140mm in the back. This one has 130mm. But I’ve always found specialised bikes to have great feeling rear suspension, some of the best in the industry and I’m guessing this ones no different. Ripmo deffo a bigger feeling bike though.
I have the 2020 stumpy comp carbon and honestly if it pedals better i dont think it would matter. I treat my stumpy as a "mini enduro" bike with chunky soft tyres and it pedals very well and is easy to winch up the climbs. Dunno how i feel about the flex pivots and how theyll hold up over time. Well see i guess.
It's like 99% of the MTB community thinks engineered flex is new, or that MTB is pioneering flex with carbon. Welcome the the 80s and prior in motorsport, where the loads are 10x higher
@John , do you work for Specialized? The way you answered sounds like how a Specialized employee will answer.... and no I did not expect a Trek Commercial, nor do I expect any 20 minute commercial from a "non bias" site like Pinkbike. Maybe a 5 minute commercial... but come on man! 20 minutes??? please discuss..
Will it take a 2.6 tire? Is it a pedal destroyer in the rocks and elsewhere? I live in Virginia and ride all types of trails. Some trails are rocky and some tight switchbacks. Mountains to flat. I am thinking the new stumpy, or Pivot 429 pro X01or Giant Trance X 29 pro 0/1? So no too low BB or too long. What say you folks? I do like the swat box. Also I am 6’1” 165 pounds Thank you 🙏
First I got the TRAIL 429 Enduro with SRAM X01 and the Reynolds Blacklabel wheels. LOVE IT. then I got PIVOT Shuttle AM team XX. a couple of weeks ago. I’ve had a number of problems both with the lack of build quality by the shop. I bought it from and then also the bite turns itself off at times for no reason and then also attached for no reason it shuts off all assistance. Also, I’ve got an orange error light, so it seems the Bosch, CX race motor and complete system/package has some bugs to work out. I’ve called the bike seller. They are supposedly working on a fix with pivot and Bosch. On my own I also called pivot Bosch and didn’t get any results. Also, one of the bike shops I took it to pivot and Bosch with zero results also. I think I will really like the bike when everything gets fixed. From the factory or OEM settings, the assistance is more than enough. I’ve been playing with it turned down some of the Assistance and three of the four settings. haven’t figured out why yet pivot, and Bosch claim their seven settings for this bike, when I only seem to get for a green, which is the lowest setting Than blue, then purple and then red. @@justinabrams78
Loved that they kept the name from all those years back, I can remember them in the nineties. Flex pivot is interesting. Anyone remember the soft tail bikes?
I love my 2016 stumpy...really having a hard decision deciding which to upgrade to, base model carbon stumpjumper, Hightower, or Devinci Troy..staying under 5500CAD.
I bought ST 2020 last summer!! Im trouble the arm length 170! BB very low? So i MAX the Rear Shock pressure and groupset sucks “SRAM SX” can’t handle Enduro/Climax that’s my opinion sorry folks..
This to me, looks like just a mountain bike, before we added words like "all mountain", "enduro", or "downcountry". Should be good all-around and good candidate if you can only have one bike and for some reason don't like the double blackies
Would the 2020\1 PIVOT SWITCHBLADE beat this bike in every aspect? Climbing, sprinting, descending, tight turns, NOT destroyer of pedals and cranks, flat surfaces, roots, rocks, etc. overall quality, quality control... thank you! GOOD videos!
Specialized most likely sends out "media" bikes to the big review/media companies for such purposes. Smaller reviewers will be waiting for shops to get some in for demo purposes.
No Joke, Mike.... I'm the host on my employers fairly large TH-cam channel and one day while filming a product intro - in the span of 30 minutes, I had a train, somebody shooting an assault rifle, a giant flock of blackbirds so loud you couldn't hear, and for the finalé, a 25 minute garage band drum solo directly across the street. Like Travis Barker level noise and cadence. Unreal 😂
Specialized is killing it with all their new offerings. This Stumpy looks on point! Way to keep the weight down too, kind of silly to see these 130, 140mm rear travel bikes coming in at 32, 33 pounds.
It's why I'm an S guy. Their R and D is next level.
"My unpaid intern, Mike Kazimer." 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why did he disrespect him like that lol
came for the review, stayed to watch Levy climb a stump.
I have a '94 and '01 Stumpy and love them. Happy 40th,Stumpy!
the classic let's watch this bike review for a bike I will never afford or want to spend that amount of money on
yeah, it gets a bit tiresome. I assume its because companies offer their top tier model and reviewers can't help but graciously accept
I see Levy’s really trying to get a Tim Hortons sponsorship.
timmyyy s
Tim Hortons is trash.
Always
michael sidote woah there bud, how dare you say that about this country’s pride and joy
My landlord on Vancouver island here owns 6 or 7 timmies and he’s a huge mountain biker. Ofc he rides a pivot.
I am happy that we are talking about all these grams, when I have to lug a backpack of water that weighs nearly 2 kilos, and my own body weight which shows no signs of reduction. Maybe bike companies should look into marketing "Premium psyllium husk" for race day performance. But the bike looks gorgeous though.
My man says “damping” instead of “dampening”, he knows whats up
He also says fork instead of forks and puts his Timmy's cup in the bottle cage. Where it goes.
So true! Also noteworthy - he says “millimeters of travel” not “mils of travel” as all too many reviewers do. After all, 130 Mils would be 3.3mm of not even XC worthy travel. Thank you for the accurate reporting!
So glad this bike came out... I sold my 2020 Stumpy Expert which felt small... couldn't keep momentum... and climbed like shit. Started shopping the SB130... but stock is low. Now this new 2021 Stumpy has my full attention...
If you thought stock was low on 130's, you're in for a world of hurt with this one...
My 2000 Rockhopper now a hybrid. Best bike I have or ever will own
Would have been cool if they used the carbon rear on the alum frames.
It'll be interesting knowing how carbon flex behaves a few years down the line.
am wondering how temperature affects it as well
Most likely that Specialized have conducted accelerated fatigue testing, perhaps in an environmental chamber as well, to validate the design.
If any of you are familiar with Formula 1 design history, this reminds me of when John Barnard introduced the flex pivot for front suspension wishbones in place of traditional spherical bearings. Many doubters at first; it’s now common place!
It will be fine, carbon has ace fatigue characteristics in comparison to aluminium. Spesh will also have done fatigue analysis & rig tests 👍
Waaay better than aloominum. Well laminated carbon composite essentially has unlimited fatigue life almost up to it's compression failure point. This flex stay barely flexes at all.
(And, no, I'm not just an armchair expert on this ;-) )
The epics commonly fail at the flex point. Considering the stumpy is aimed towards more aggressive riders I am expecting the same results in less time.
Great video! Been riding the new epic Evo, that new rear shock design feels quite bottomless. Good job climbing that stump!
I have ridden one of these they are amazing
27.5 ain't dea---
giant saw this coming years ago but got cold feet 😂
My S-Works Stumpjumper is ready on friday! I'm so excited!
@CHELSKI9 I'm 179cm tall and I went with a S4. I enjoy XC a lot and was told that size would suit my "style" the most.
It's a great bike, extremely light and pedal efficient! :)
This Channel is the gift that keeps on giving. Am right give this a like so they notice
There is no way I can ever justifying spending that much amount on a bike. I never wanted anything more than this piece of artwork.
me too bro
Im going to use the word nimbility as often as I possibly can.
Love it when Levy makes up his own words😁🤘
It seems that they are just arriving to canyon shapeshifter and flex pivot.
4:55 "I bought over last year's bike". I wanna see Pinkbike's bike vault
I'd love to hear how that rear flex works with a heavy rider. I've been riding the Transition Spur and I love it but I'm about 200 lbs, and when I lock out the rear it kind of does a weird oscillating thing when I'm grinding on it. My theory is that the Transition is tuned to an average weight rider, so it misbehaves a little under heavier stress. Wonder if this bike would behave similarly.
I got to ride this bike a couple weeks ago and oh man it's so much damn fun! Took the last model and just improved on everything, much stiffer, much more playful and pedals like bike that pedals real good!
DMD Edits it looks like more of an XC bike now to me, pushing people wanting more of a burly trail bike towards the evo
@@partyongarth0 Dont be warned off though because it's plenty capable, rode this one and the evo back to back on some really rooty and rocky northeast single-track and while the evo was faster I had more fun on this bike with its playfulness. Really had a hard time finding the limit on this bike where it starts to slow you down, any normal trail system or even all mountain style trail with long ups and fun downs would be great on this bike.
How does it compare to DW Link bikes like Ibis Ripley, Ripmo or Yeti’s Infinity Sb130 or Sb150?
@@pjsanab I havn't ridden a dw link yet so I can't say much for that, what I've heard is the the dw is still a bit more effective but at this point we're talking small margins. I personally like it better than the infinity linkage system yeti uses, to me there feels like less play(stiffer rear end then yeti) and I'm a fan of less complexity as well. One thing for sure is the amount of side load on the shock is greatly reduced from the horst linkage and you can feel the difference
pjsanab I rode the ripmo before purchasing the 2019 stumpjumper and the ripmo felt like a bigger bike but not as plush. In fact the back end of the ripmo felt quite harsh over the small bumps almost like a hardtail and I tried playing around with sag and compression but it didn’t help. I wear a chamois and I’m used to riding 6h+ in the saddle and after a day on the ripmo my ass was really sore. However the ripmo was more supportive in the mid stroke and took big hits better. But this is vs the 2019 stumpy which has 140mm in the back. This one has 130mm. But I’ve always found specialised bikes to have great feeling rear suspension, some of the best in the industry and I’m guessing this ones no different. Ripmo deffo a bigger feeling bike though.
I have the 2020 stumpy comp carbon and honestly if it pedals better i dont think it would matter. I treat my stumpy as a "mini enduro" bike with chunky soft tyres and it pedals very well and is easy to winch up the climbs. Dunno how i feel about the flex pivots and how theyll hold up over time. Well see i guess.
It's like 99% of the MTB community thinks engineered flex is new, or that MTB is pioneering flex with carbon. Welcome the the 80s and prior in motorsport, where the loads are 10x higher
What was old is new again, for MTB marketing.
@@benjaminland9573 the latest and greatest catch phrase 😂
OMG, the color of this bike is making me buy 1 and put it in my room just for pampering my eyes!! Fuck it is beautiful
Flex stays and a rattle can like paintjob, I'll be keeping my 2020 stumpy....
Idk why but I hated that intro joke. Love the bike!
It’s so beautiful🥺❤️
The colour look like the last year epic
I love that Mike says stumpy in instead of Stumpjumper.
This preview sounds like a 20 minute Specialized Commercial!
Also just Wow! Specialized abandoning the Horst-Link for basically a single pivot design.
@John , do you work for Specialized? The way you answered sounds like how a Specialized employee will answer.... and no I did not expect a Trek Commercial, nor do I expect any 20 minute commercial from a "non bias" site like Pinkbike. Maybe a 5 minute commercial... but come on man! 20 minutes??? please discuss..
@@ErichVonCartmann maybe he likes the bike 🤷🏼♂️
@@mikeocksmall6513 , of course he likes the bike... much easier to like a bike when we are paid to like them
@@ErichVonCartmann so Pinkbike are paid by specialized
@@mikeocksmall6513 , I hope so! That was like Ass-Kissin level 10 review. That kinda ass kiss'n deserves top dollars.
Will it take a 2.6 tire? Is it a pedal destroyer in the rocks and elsewhere?
I live in Virginia and ride all types of trails. Some trails are rocky and some tight switchbacks. Mountains to flat.
I am thinking the new stumpy, or Pivot 429 pro X01or Giant Trance X 29 pro 0/1?
So no too low BB or too long.
What say you folks?
I do like the swat box.
Also I am 6’1” 165 pounds
Thank you 🙏
what did you decide on? I just ordered the stumpy s4 Pro T-Type. 6.1 175 lbs
First I got the TRAIL 429 Enduro with SRAM X01 and the Reynolds Blacklabel wheels. LOVE IT.
then I got PIVOT Shuttle AM team XX. a couple of weeks ago. I’ve had a number of problems both with the lack of build quality by the shop. I bought it from and then also the bite turns itself off at times for no reason and then also attached for no reason it shuts off all assistance. Also, I’ve got an orange error light, so it seems the Bosch, CX race motor and complete system/package has some bugs to work out.
I’ve called the bike seller. They are supposedly working on a fix with pivot and Bosch. On my own I also called pivot Bosch and didn’t get any results. Also, one of the bike shops I took it to pivot and Bosch with zero results also.
I think I will really like the bike when everything gets fixed.
From the factory or OEM settings, the assistance is more than enough. I’ve been playing with it turned down some of the Assistance and three of the four settings.
haven’t figured out why yet pivot, and Bosch claim their seven settings for this bike, when I only seem to get for a green, which is the lowest setting Than blue, then purple and then red.
@@justinabrams78
Wouldn't exchange my 2020 stumpy evo for anything else. They are just freaking awesome bikes.
it looks so good
Wow for almost 10 years I've known this bike as the Stunt jumper, until you made the 'Stump' analogy.
Ah. Your one of those people
Loved that they kept the name from all those years back, I can remember them in the nineties. Flex pivot is interesting. Anyone remember the soft tail bikes?
Zoom class be holding me back from getting here early
What is the frame weight of the Stumpjumper alloy? Alloy vs carbon?
I need help deciding. Vitus Mythique VRX, Canyon Burton AL 7, or YT Izzo Comp
Mike ‘climbs with the nimbility of the grim donut’ Levy
I love my 2016 stumpy...really having a hard decision deciding which to upgrade to, base model carbon stumpjumper, Hightower, or Devinci Troy..staying under 5500CAD.
Troy!!!
dude why the heII did they take away my 27.5 wheels.
I’m still riding my rock hopper 26 😢
@@dattepo7534 make it a “murder machine” if you catch my drift
My mum still rides her 1984 stuntjumper!
great review thank you
I bought ST 2020 last summer!! Im trouble the arm length 170! BB very low? So i MAX the Rear Shock pressure and groupset sucks “SRAM SX” can’t handle Enduro/Climax that’s my opinion sorry folks..
5:36
Serious question that I really need answered: what the fawk is 55 grams of weight saving gonna do?
all adds up
@@danp2509 Adds up to a broken triangle...
1:01 Shots fired. You taking that, @MikeKazimer??
do you have a video for entry level stumpjumper? ( the affordable one)
I wanted a new one before......but now I REALLY want one......
Wish they had a 27.5 model abut and i would buy it :(
27.5 makes sense only in back . Idont see the point of having it in the front , specialy on trail bike
@@joeblack4026 yes from the numbers maybe your right. But on a trail bike its for fun and I seem to have the most fun on my 27.5’s
Any idea why they made the new stumpy only available in 29" wheels?
Would have preferred more travel with the 27.5👍
This boi stump jumpin
Was pretty excited to buy a 2021 Stumpy until I learned they don't offer 27.5 anymore.
You can put 27.5 wheels on it
why does the paint fade from black to red on the seat tube but not the down tube? looks weird
i got a 2019 stump jumper brand new for $1800
ok?
If it’s 2019 it’s not actually brand new good for you tho it’s a good bike
@@ShakaTechnique I bought it used but the other person bought rims and never road it so it is new
Where danm
I only have 2 grand and want a stumpy
One important box not checked for me is two waterbottle mounts.
Nimbility. Man, i just KNEW there would be a red underline when i typed that one in!
the first scene im dyyyyiiiiinggggg
Sooo clean 👍
It looks like the orbea rallon
orbea my ass
I see what you did there
Looks like they are even copying the flip chip that slackens the head tube angle..
Mike, any plans for test session comparison with new Evo? I Wonder how does Evo feel different than regular one and Enduro.
WiewiorPLater1 someone has done that review on TH-cam recently, more lively apparently
This to me, looks like just a mountain bike, before we added words like "all mountain", "enduro", or "downcountry". Should be good all-around and good candidate if you can only have one bike and for some reason don't like the double blackies
6:26 so its already bowing to the opposite direction when stagnant?
My dad as the 80 stump jumper
So unless you go for the S-Works carbon, you are wasting your money on the new stump jumper
What shoes you wearing please sir!
I mean the first joke was ssooo bad but you made it up😂
A Flex what...... I hope they go no questions asked on warranty down the years on those models.
nice stumps levy
Great review Levy but seriously dude start doing some pull-ups 😂 💪🏻
Have all the paint shops run out of good colours ?
Bike looks sick but 👌
Don't forget to bring the Alloy Base on the next Field Trip, either.
Hell yea I got a 2016 stumpy and it’s fukin sick
That orbea rallon looks nice ;)
Scott does the same thing between spark and genius. Non Horst is definitely not as active.
i agree with you , but i believe that it isn't as bad as everyone thinks.
Would the 2020\1 PIVOT SWITCHBLADE beat this bike in every aspect? Climbing, sprinting, descending, tight turns, NOT destroyer of pedals and cranks, flat surfaces, roots, rocks, etc. overall quality, quality control... thank you! GOOD videos!
I don't like the rear brake caliper design, looks like u can't run a 200mm rotor.
And why would u ride an Assegai at the rear of a trail bike?
My preference is straight.. size big
3 years behind the curve.
S-works is an absolute beautiful looking machine, guess I'll have to start harvesting some kidneys....
I’m not sure why I watched this, I will probably never buy a Specialized mountain bike or frame, especially not the S(Salary) Works model.
Why not?
I ride Trek, and never any other brand, and I'll take a Specialized anytime! They're great bikes! 👍👍
Nothing wrong with the Specialized bike “product” it’s just not on my short list of bikes and frames that interest me.
raheem gahel I had a Trek Remedy, great full suspension design but I gave it to my son
Michael Lee I probably go at a moderate speed on most trails but I have hit 45mph per my Garmin.
Would be interesting to know how he got it:) Nothing in stock
Specialized most likely sends out "media" bikes to the big review/media companies for such purposes. Smaller reviewers will be waiting for shops to get some in for demo purposes.
Wow, no Horst Link on Stumpy... Times, they are changing.
I have the 2007 stump jumper and the 2007 trek fuel ex 9
Pinkbike is to bikes what Linus tech tips is to computers
Smooth intro 😂😂
Also please riview Trifox frame
Haha flex point budget suspension like the Giant Stance that breaks its chain stays. Good one.
5 and a half kidneys... LOL haha
Whats the music at the end?
I dunno what the heck a horst link is but I'm going to start saying horst link and axle path a bunch when I talk about bikes now!
Jewel suspension I meant to say
Nice bike
Nice mantle.
Stop the press. The most important trail bike of the next 2 years has just dropped!
Do the meta am 29 ride
Is that a fox 34