I just want to say that Dave was really good on this, and it was a reminder of why i started listening back to him in the early 2000s.. I have got caught up with his doubling down on AEW etc but he was great on this.
DAVE WAS FANTASTIC ON THE DOCUMENTARY. HE DESERVES A TON OF PRAISE. ALSO, MIKE IS AWFUL. THE GUY COVERS WRESTLING THAT PEOPLE PAY TO LISTEN TO BUT HE IS NOT GOING TO WATCH THE DOCUMENTARY THAT EVERY WRESTLING FAN AND CRITIC IS GOING TO DISSECT. HE IS AN IMPOSTER
@@mrrobert9176 DAVE SPEAKS THE TRUTH ABOUT AEW AND WWE MARKS LIKE YOU BLINDLY FOLLOW WWE AND THINK IT IS THE GREATEST ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD . DAVE IS NOT AN AEW SHILL, HE RECOGNIZES THAT THERE ARE A TON OF DIFFERENCES IN WHICH AEW IS SUPERIOR. YOU ARE THE WWE SHILL
Dave wasn’t too bad with his information and takes, until he began rating 6*+ matches on a regular basis starting around 2016. That’s when he really lost his marbles.
i agree but it was bittersweet and at times sickening to hear it told in the voice of evil in a first hand point of view, once raw comes to netflix there will be a terrific whitewashing, almost a nullification of anything giving off the idea there were territories and they were bought out, just to avoid drudging up the past sins, the wwe vault channel is uploading JCP tapes as of this weekend and even made a custom graphic for it, so we'll probably see something to the effect of "the territories and/or states commissions (because who's going to look into that one), just magically melded together because they thought it was best for business" which would be wwe levels of whitewashing after a cluster (while avoiding the idea of any NWA since that is currently owned by someone else, as well as NWA it being kicked off The WB/CW for NXT but i digress)
It needed more interviews from people that interacted with Vince. Tony Atlas was the only one giving anything away. The rest was a generic wwe doc with the last 20 minutes being the scandal.
Finished it, and it was lowkey ass. But i guess it’s as you all said, that it’s a good piece for casual viewers. I already knew about everything. The only revelation that fucked me up was when Steve Austin said some stupid shit about concussions. Like how could he have that opinion, all the while his peers like Angle and mick foley both are slowly developing cte smiles, not too dissimilar from how Ali’s face used to look. That was pretty disappointing. And I was shocked that Vince actually listened to the science. Mostly to protect his assets probably.
Bro it was. Nothing new was captured but the stone cold shit was actually surprising man Brett Farve just got diagnosed with Parkinsons. Your telling me getting sack and hit in the fucking head didn't have anything to do with that
Loving the documentary. It brings the history of WWE and wrestlingE in general into full perspective. McMahon is a complicated man. The abuse he got when he was a kid can not be overstated. It doesn't excuse some of the things he did. At the same time, without him wrestling wouldn't be where it is. It's complicated.
Nobody ever and will ever have unprecedented access to Vince and WWE footage and this is what we got? This should have been 10 parts like OJ:Made in America. This isn't award winning and the material should absolutely be. Shame
Was a great watch, but kinda wild that the doc missed Triple H’s POV from one of the scrums. “I haven’t had a chance to see” was wild and should have been talked about.
The most interesting parts of this documentary was vince and shane , and vince and his dad , vince puts business above everything , even his own family , he loves working, i dont think vince is a bad man but he is ruthless when it comes to business and protecting wwe, and he just wants to keep looking forward instead of being held back by the past it seems 😁
If you need to hire a PR firm, you are guilty. He should just leave the public sphere but his ego shows how out of touch and horrible be really is. Don't let the door hit you on the way out Vince!
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It was a decent watch..Most wrestling fans know what they presented...with some really being wwe opinion or twisted to be their facts..Like how wrestlemania 3 gate was exaggerated like other WWE numbers 😮😮.. but I doubted they would dig that deep..like..Vince and HBK relationship so he could get away with anything..or Who really paid for Wrestlemania..Ted?..they barely talked about the snuka thing/murder...Die hard fans probably would have wanted Darkside of the ring type stuff.
"Well if you're a diehard, there's nothing revelatory on it" Does it occur to any of you marks that your not the target audience? I was binge watching while my family was in and out. They know fuckall but stopped and watched and were asking a billion questions and then sat on the couch and went "holy shit I didn't know he did that!" at the MONTREAL SCREWJOB! Netflix had to tell this story and get this content out because in January they're getting Raw
It's a a waste of time for wrestling fans to watch. We already knew everything they presented AND expected. It's just re-hazed WWE history. VERY meh, imo.
Dave Meltzer probably got the most TV time in this documentary. Kinda felt like I was listening to F4Wonline with WWE footage over it. I didnt mind, I thought he was good
I mean he ain't wrong.... I've watched people who save their whole lives, to retire, then just sit and mostly watch TV/news and loose all ambition for life because they have no purpose anymore. A job/career should be more than just a paycheck.
The man graped a woman for years. If it comes out your boss likes messing with kids are you going to sing his praises forever because he put a little money in your pocket? If so you’re a man who would get on all fours for a dollar and recognition.
I'm midway through episode 2 and it's thus far very boring. Nothing that I do not know, and the production reminds me of the A&E documentaries, very vanilla.
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I just want to say that Dave was really good on this, and it was a reminder of why i started listening back to him in the early 2000s.. I have got caught up with his doubling down on AEW etc but he was great on this.
Dave is a damn good wrestling historian that we all forget
DAVE WAS FANTASTIC ON THE DOCUMENTARY. HE DESERVES A TON OF PRAISE. ALSO, MIKE IS AWFUL. THE GUY COVERS WRESTLING THAT PEOPLE PAY TO LISTEN TO BUT HE IS NOT GOING TO WATCH THE DOCUMENTARY THAT EVERY WRESTLING FAN AND CRITIC IS GOING TO DISSECT. HE IS AN IMPOSTER
Dave in wrestling historian mode is always a great listen. Dave as an AEW shill is the worst.
@@mrrobert9176 DAVE SPEAKS THE TRUTH ABOUT AEW AND WWE MARKS LIKE YOU BLINDLY FOLLOW WWE AND THINK IT IS THE GREATEST ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD . DAVE IS NOT AN AEW SHILL, HE RECOGNIZES THAT THERE ARE A TON OF DIFFERENCES IN WHICH AEW IS SUPERIOR. YOU ARE THE WWE SHILL
Dave wasn’t too bad with his information and takes, until he began rating 6*+ matches on a regular basis starting around 2016.
That’s when he really lost his marbles.
Binged the series, it felt like a WWE History documentary as opposed to a Mr. McMahon documentary.
Vince was WWE until this year. Can't separate them
The two are inextricably intertwined.
I Love how Meltzer took a dump on the 93,000 people at WrestleMania III attendance record 😂😂😂
Did you expect anything else?
Yeah but the streak, hogan vs rock.. there was a lot of fluff.
The documentary wasn’t that bad. Nothing wrestling fans didn’t already know.
It's not for wrestling fans though, it's for normies who are scrolling Netflix.
I think it's also for wrestling fans who don't follow the behind the scenes.
@@foaly5 ''Normies scrolling Netflix'' ?? Really ???
i agree but it was bittersweet and at times sickening to hear it told in the voice of evil in a first hand point of view, once raw comes to netflix there will be a terrific whitewashing, almost a nullification of anything giving off the idea there were territories and they were bought out, just to avoid drudging up the past sins, the wwe vault channel is uploading JCP tapes as of this weekend and even made a custom graphic for it, so we'll probably see something to the effect of "the territories and/or states commissions (because who's going to look into that one), just magically melded together because they thought it was best for business" which would be wwe levels of whitewashing after a cluster (while avoiding the idea of any NWA since that is currently owned by someone else, as well as NWA it being kicked off The WB/CW for NXT but i digress)
I agree with Bret Hart. Vince can go rot in hell.
And we have no sympy for you, Vince.
sympy ?
Dave was great on the doc but mainly because they only took 2 sentences and cut it right away before the ramble lol
It needed more interviews from people that interacted with Vince. Tony Atlas was the only one giving anything away. The rest was a generic wwe doc with the last 20 minutes being the scandal.
Dude for sure .. I mean you think Hulk would of had more to say shit they were on top together for damn near 10 years
Vince came off terrible but Bruce Prichard is a close 2nd.
Why in the fuck did they even interview him?
They interviewed Pritchard but not JR ridiculous.
@@rocky5000100 don't think any active aew person was on
@@juniorkhomari1850 He was Vince's right hand man for decades , why wouldn't they ?
@@CraigWeir-q5vNo Kevin Dunn is his right hand man who was not in this documentary or even talked about.
There’s only so much Bruce Prichard a person can take.
I do enjoy his Jim Cornette/Mickey Mouse impersonations, lol
"And if I did, the Statute of Limitations . . ." Yeah, he absolutely did and has zero sympathy.
He was forced out. He would've never retired otherwise
Finished it, and it was lowkey ass. But i guess it’s as you all said, that it’s a good piece for casual viewers. I already knew about everything.
The only revelation that fucked me up was when Steve Austin said some stupid shit about concussions. Like how could he have that opinion, all the while his peers like Angle and mick foley both are slowly developing cte smiles, not too dissimilar from how Ali’s face used to look. That was pretty disappointing. And I was shocked that Vince actually listened to the science. Mostly to protect his assets probably.
Bro it was. Nothing new was captured but the stone cold shit was actually surprising man Brett Farve just got diagnosed with Parkinsons. Your telling me getting sack and hit in the fucking head didn't have anything to do with that
Feels more like a brief history of WWE than Vince's Story.
First 2 episode alot of Tony Atlas.
Loving the documentary. It brings the history of WWE and wrestlingE in general into full perspective.
McMahon is a complicated man. The abuse he got when he was a kid can not be overstated. It doesn't excuse some of the things he did. At the same time, without him wrestling wouldn't be where it is.
It's complicated.
I would love to hear all those interviews uncut.
He was forced to retire.
Rest in Poop, Vince.
There was nothing new nothing that was shocking. This was just a nice documentary about Vince. This was a nothing burger
Mike sounds like a kid doing a book report on a book that he clearly didn't read.
Nobody ever and will ever have unprecedented access to Vince and WWE footage and this is what we got? This should have been 10 parts like OJ:Made in America. This isn't award winning and the material should absolutely be. Shame
Was a great watch, but kinda wild that the doc missed Triple H’s POV from one of the scrums. “I haven’t had a chance to see” was wild and should have been talked about.
The most interesting parts of this documentary was vince and shane , and vince and his dad , vince puts business above everything , even his own family , he loves working, i dont think vince is a bad man but he is ruthless when it comes to business and protecting wwe, and he just wants to keep looking forward instead of being held back by the past it seems 😁
GUESS WHAT, VINCE? I GOT NO 0 SYMPY FOR YOU, PAL!
Guess what? He doesn't care because you're a nobody
At least he's not a hypocrite about it, as it's clear that he himself wanted to work until the day he died.
Well, there's no point in dark side of the ring doing a vince ep now
LMAO isn't that the pot calling the kettle black because didn't vince retire 2-years ago?
he was basically forced out, that is obviously different.
@@toptenguy1true lol.
Vince always had a team making sure things didn't get weird. Guessing the team had time off when he started looking like a melting Raul Julia.
They tried to get every recollection out of him but he was overdrawn at the memory bank.
@@brycemcneil4404 🤣 That happens with a syphilitic and C T E riddled brain. 🤷♂
If you need to hire a PR firm, you are guilty. He should just leave the public sphere but his ego shows how out of touch and horrible be really is. Don't let the door hit you on the way out Vince!
That PR Firm did okay. They slicked his hair with some second hand black paint and drew on the worst moustache in history😄
The victim also hired a PR firm. I guess she's guilty too.
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Investing without proper guidance can lead to mistakes and losses. I've learned this from my own experience.If you're new to investing or don't have much time, it's best to get advice from an expert.
Even with the right strategies and appropriate assets, investment returns can differ among investors. Recognizing the vital role of experience in investment success is crucial. Personally, I understood this significance and sought guidance from a market analyst, significantly growing my account to nearly a million. Strategically withdrawing profits just before the market correction, I'm now seizing buying opportunities once again.
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Anyone know where i can find the interview where vince said hes going to live forever lol??
Only seen the first 2 episodes so far and im more appalled by a Young Dave Meltzer with an awful Mullet than anything Vince McMahon Did.
Just wait pal
Hahaha
😂😂😂
Predator Vince backer spotted
Spoken like a true hater brigader
Huge self-report.
It was a decent watch..Most wrestling fans know what they presented...with some really being wwe opinion or twisted to be their facts..Like how wrestlemania 3 gate was exaggerated like other WWE numbers 😮😮.. but I doubted they would dig that deep..like..Vince and HBK relationship so he could get away with anything..or Who really paid for Wrestlemania..Ted?..they barely talked about the snuka thing/murder...Die hard fans probably would have wanted Darkside of the ring type stuff.
The best part was when Meltzer said it's NOT about the wrestling, it's about the stars...and NOT star ratings. Hilarious
💯
I wish he would text his buddy Tony Khan that
"Well if you're a diehard, there's nothing revelatory on it"
Does it occur to any of you marks that your not the target audience?
I was binge watching while my family was in and out. They know fuckall but stopped and watched and were asking a billion questions and then sat on the couch and went "holy shit I didn't know he did that!" at the MONTREAL SCREWJOB!
Netflix had to tell this story and get this content out because in January they're getting Raw
Vince McMahon is the best promoter in the history of professional wrestling..better than the clown Tony Khan
@@JackWWE predator vince backer spotted
@@JackWWE Vince is no genius
Just the luckiest dumbest worst wrestling promoter in history
308 Nichole Squares
It's a a waste of time for wrestling fans to watch. We already knew everything they presented AND expected. It's just re-hazed WWE history. VERY meh, imo.
I bet vince mcmahon will rot in hell for owen hart's death
I knew when they interview cena and the rock they weren’t gonna touch the new stuff
Dave Meltzer probably got the most TV time in this documentary. Kinda felt like I was listening to F4Wonline with WWE footage over it. I didnt mind, I thought he was good
I missed the first episode because I was on the toilet fielding acorns if you know what I mean. Muddy ones
I mean he ain't wrong.... I've watched people who save their whole lives, to retire, then just sit and mostly watch TV/news and loose all ambition for life because they have no purpose anymore. A job/career should be more than just a paycheck.
The worst thing about the documentary is Dave Meltzer being in it.
Dave Meltzer sucks
Meltzer lied more than Bruce, which is very hard to do
these marks aren’t floored cause they lit obsessed over it all day. but for most i’m sure they will be floored
You know who should retire, Tony Khan. He's too mentally ill
@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 Lay off the Haterade fool
Like whoever you like
Tribalism sucks
You did 12 thousand shows and never drew a dime 🤣🤣
Weird how much this website hates Vince yet without him wouldn’t have the jobs they do
The man graped a woman for years. If it comes out your boss likes messing with kids are you going to sing his praises forever because he put a little money in your pocket? If so you’re a man who would get on all fours for a dollar and recognition.
Logical fallacy ahoy!
I was absolutely horrible. 5 hour 30 min fluff piece
Vince is a legend
Ps how's those AEW ratings?
Everything is great guys
Ratings suck but a lot less rapin and murderin than in the WWE.
Is Don callis and Jericho still working for tony?
But but but AEW
@@joewright6095 AEW sucks as well. I don’t like AEW or rapists.
I'm midway through episode 2 and it's thus far very boring. Nothing that I do not know, and the production reminds me of the A&E documentaries, very vanilla.
You know king goof was gnna bring up WrestleMania 3s attendance numbers..Anything to cram his little member into the klown man
Seek help.
lol typical F4AEW headline
Vince is that you?