Fun fact: the MP-28’s mag grip is historically accurate. German storm troopers during and after War I were trained to hold their weapons like that so their elbow can rest on their front leg when they were in a crouched position.
The trench carbine full auto in the sniper class with the ability to set spawn beacons creates the most aggressive class possible, the mag capacity is insane too
Finally some love for the M28. I never thought I'd love an Italian gun from WW2, but theres just something about hiw versatile it can be. And that grenade launcher is so satisfying to kill tanks and infantry alike.
2:44 the reason the KE-7 has one reload animation is because the gun’s bolt will lock open on an empty magazine. And since the gun is open bolt, all you have to do is slam the mag in and let her rip.
Ah, I actually point this fact out in my Support Tier List video. I didn’t mention it here for the sake of brevity, but it’s cool that you know that fact.
@@professormemsclass BFV had a lot of untapped potential and missed opportunities to become one of the best WWII shooters out there. The KE-7 was also made with a 50 round magazine.
@@edm240b9 Most definitely. Obviously the Russian Faction and Eastern Front have massive potential, but even things like the KE-7 magazine really punctuate the potential that we missed out on. There are so many unique weapons of the era that are interesting enough without the need for unrealistic weapon-modding (not to insult you if you like CoD or something) but there’s so much more that more games should incorporate, especially in a series like Battlefield that’s willing to introduce extremely obscure weapons like the Ribeyrolles and Hellriegel into the public consciousness.
from what I hear is that the S2-200 was supposed to be an lmg, but do to a mistake in the programing on ea's part, it was set to the mmg setting, not lmg
To put the KE7 in the lowest category doesn’t make any sense. It’s a good all rounder if you don’t want to go prone with an MG34 or MG42 all the time.. It’s a great weapon.
I know that, I thought I explained myself though that the rankings aren’t about just how good they are in game. Like, if you use it then great, I think that’s valid. But there’s really no reason for me to make a video about an objective ranking, rather than making something more personal and fun.
could do a in depth gadget breakdown. if you havent. (dont think you have could be wrong) 8500 company coins is a big early investment for some of the gadgetsand im sure alot of new players dont know much about em
This tier list is what truly goes on in the heart of every BFV player. The body and soul accept this tier list as true objective fact. No matter how sweaty you are at this game, you can't argue that every gun doesn't deserve its spot on this list. This tier list isn't a list. it's a mural, a carving in the wall, and each gun gleefully clicks into its place its home.The gun knows it. You know it too.
The Austrian Rep Pistol is my absolute favorite pistol. The stripper clip reload is great, and the rate of fire is nutty to the point i beat people in gunfights with the pistol when my main weapon was empty. It is reliable and surprisingly controllable.
Honestly man, Im kinda glad I found your channel. Seems we have the same opinion on the hipster weapons that barely anyone uses and hate for “meta” weapons
Another well put together video. As you state instantly, it's subjective. That said, some of those placements 😐 Can see how much your vibe for aesthetic and authenticity of the weapons plays a factor in your choices. How you seem to enjoy iron fights, shying away from the user friendly Nydar Sight (the typical Red Dot Sight that most FPS players will favour). Also again, your settings lean into a restricted playstyle. On the other side of the spectrum of players are the slide abusing, ZK-383 meta sweats jumping in gunfights and "playing like it's CoD". You touch on the aspect of how 'sweats' focus the Time To Kill (TTK) of a weapon ahead of the stability and consistency of other weapons. This is an aspect of using low Field Of View (FoV). With 3,000hrs+ or so of personal game experience and over 1,000hrs of studying BFv content (YT, streamers, discord debates, etc) there's only two insanely talented BFv players I've seen using near default settings to a high level - *CyborgJRS* (Xbox and originally the leaderboards' top console player for score, kills, etc with insane stats) and *Wilko Diablo* (a PSN youtuber who regularly drops 100kill+ games with every weapon in the game). Both are all about positioning, awareness, decision making, etc rather than abusing meta weapons and aggressive 'CoD style' movement that the majority of top players lean into. Onto the big weapon placements which stood out to me... *KE-7* - you have a F, but for me it's a C tier. You didn't feel it offered much and lacked character but it's essentially a baby Sturmgewehr 1-5 for the Support class. Slap a Nydar on it and it'll do what you hope without exceeding in any aspects. *M2 Carbine* - obviously you see it as a cheap weapon, which on PC I can see why it would be. On Console it's slightly harder to get the maximum from. The weapon in the right hands is a monster if you have good connection and hit-reg on the day. It can challenge SMGs short range and beams in the hands of a top player. In the console comp scene, it's the main RIVAL to the go-to assault rifle. *M1907sf* - You placed in D tier due to the high recoil and low map capacity but this is another weapon which if used to its strengths with higher FoV is one of the best 1v1 or possibly 1v2 weapons available. Obviously need to stick to it's CQC advantages but can tap fire medium range. The *Breda* - would be C for myself. Obviously it's burst fire by default but it's strength is that 20 mag on single shot for short to medium range, it's alot more forgiving than the likes of the Gewehr 43, which if you miss a couple of rounds during a fire fight against more than one enemy leaves you vulnerable. *Sturmgewehr 1-5* - you have in C but it's S Tier in most hands. It's reliable and user friendly. With the assault rifles side-by-side, the Sturm is the weapon that offers the best balance. Although it lacks insane fire rate, it lacks real flaws too. A solid hitter at any range, only really beaten by other meta weapons at their preferred range. It's the essential Jack Of All Trades, assault rifle 101 that most FPS will understand how to use. *FG-42* & *BAR* - You have both of these meta LMGs in B class but they're two of the best weapons in the game. The slight performance difference between them is the FG-42 has slightly lower recoil whilst the BAR has a higher firerate (as well as it's changeable firerate). Similar to the M1907, these weapons excel in 1v1 or 1v2 situations and work best aggressively, challenging a duel. *Lee Enfield* - I'm not a big sniping player myself and I agree with this not being a superior weapon but whilst you highlighted it's lower range and damage models, this sniper rifle has the highest bolt cycle (if memory serves) so is the best close to medium range bolt action for lower skilled players who will need to fire multiple shots. *Stodeh* had a great breakdown of the original bolt actions (sadly a little outdated now) but it highlighted the best conditions for each bolt action with this being the best close range and the KAR98 being the best long range. *Johnson rifle* - seeing you list this as A tier was hurtful 😂 although the current standing of the BFv meta left the Semi Auto rifles in a great place for more open maps (Strategical Conquest, Breakthrough, etc), the Johnson doesn't do anything that others in its class don't do better. It's widely seen as the worst in class. The rare times I do die to it on Tactical Conquest, it's always a very low level player, laid in a bush who got the finishing hit as I was in a fire fight with another player. Can't recall the last time I lost a gun fight to it. Especially E tier for me. *ZK-383* - You have it in A tier but it's widely seen as the best weapon in the game. Most people getting 100kills+ as infantry during a round of Conquest are using this weapon. It's the perfect example of the specialisations of the weapon being what make it what it is. Either *LLLR* for most maps so you get that strafe speed for adding mobility during fire fights and High Velocity Bullets for challenging other classes at medium range. The firerate boosting that TTK massively. It's the prime example of high Field Of View enabling better recoil control via perception. *STG-44* - originally the meta weapon during the beta and early builds of the game before it's damage for nerfed. It's a fun weapon and user friendly due to that low recoil BUT it'll lose in direct duels against the Sturmgewehr 1-5 or M2 Carbine. With a x3 scope, the STG is a fun weapon, stable at medium range full auto situations. C tier for me due to it being dominated by the meta weapons. Do have it ahead of the slow firing Ribeyrolles though (packs a punch and stable for medium range BUT outperformed up close by SMGs and meta assault weapons whilst losing to SARs at medium range) *M1 Garand* - again, felt like your love for authenticity held this alot higher than it should be. Better than the Johnson thankfully but the only people who tend to use it are the 'bots' (inexperienced low level players, still using default FoV, etc) as they crouch walk from bush to bush before mag-dumping the whole clip to kill one player, then dying whilst reloading 😐 so bad that the weapon sums up a low end cliche of player, similar to the 'Sten-bot' (the level 8 player who will actually beam you with the Sten whilst you're reloading after killing multiple players) *M27 Revolver* - rightly placed as S tier, but I feel you didn't highlight it's 'high risk, high reward' aspect of being the hard hitting but slow firing sidearm that most top players will use due to their ability to hit those headshots with it being 1 shot kill in close to medium range. It also works well with the likes of the close-to-medium range king ZK-383, offering that precision high damage for finishing off an enemy at medium range.
This video is a retrospective overview of the things I already said in my other videos. If you don’t quite understand my reasoning for certain placements or thought I left something out then the dedicated video (sidearms/assault/medic/support/recon) might give you a better picture. Since those videos total over 2 hours of content I thought it would be best to keep it brief here. I admit sometimes I do leave things out. I’m not really here to try to change anyone’s mind (except maybe on the M3 infrared) and I don’t want what are objectively no more than my opinions to be part of some kind of competition or values judgment. I’m not a top player, I don’t want to be and I don’t have the time. I keep making these videos because despite what I say people are entertained, and that’s what this is for. The tier list is just to draw people in, but anybody could make a tier list. I’d like to think that my content had value despite the fact that I don’t care about the meta and my views on weapons are deranged. As for my settings and using iron sights instead of Nydar or lattey, a lower FOV doesn’t give you less recoils. It just makes you feel like you have less recoil. I’d rather have a longer range (my monitors are basic so to see better at range I choose to have lower FOV and magnification) I don’t really know how to feel about your comments since they seem to be simultaneously well-meaning/attacking/missing the point. I’m not an analyst, a maximizer, and these days I don’t even have the time to play the game all that often. I’m just a guy that’s trying to capture how it FEELS to play the game and provide some personality since that’s a key part of this flavor of content creation. It’s evident that you already know what’s best for you, and you don’t need anyone to tell you. I certainly didn’t change your mind, so why bother taking anything away from this video gameplay wise?
@@professormemsclass I have a tendency to speak bluntly in what I intent to be constructive but can often be deemed 'combative' or attacking as you mention. Totally not my aim, again always refreshing to see new content on a game I've alot of time in both playing and studying, so I'm not aiming to throw negativity at someone. The quality of your videos is great. I did check out two of the videos so far. Also, I totally get you play for fun, not to stress yourself or bore yourself with sticking to simply 2-3 guns and playing 24/7 Underground. The majority of the playerbase are similarly minded. There to have fun. So as an experienced console player, BFv has a sense of familiarity and predictability to it, you quickly learn Who's Who - the comp players, the sweats, the pub platoon players, the trolls, etc. With the game sadly lacking an auto balance system it usually leads to unbalanced teams that most won't understand or care about (becomes boring to be on the stack, frustrating to be against)... ....and it's the aspect of when you see the average lower level, inexperienced player using the default settings which gives that *sense* and *perception* of sluggishness, high recoil, tunnel vision, etc. Like with the use of movement, manoeuvring and positioning you can quickly gage if a player knows what they're doing or is just there to make the numbers up. Obviously weapons play a big part in the game, often working in tandem with the playstyle - weapons like the Bren, Madsen or Type 11 LMG can be great passive playstyle weapons that benefit from being used from a stationary position behind cover at medium range. Obviously with my points concerning my own understanding/opinion of weapons reflects mainly the more meta playstyle but again, I've tried to include a couple of exceptional players who played at a extremely high skill level using non-meta methods. My aim was to offer a couple of pointers not simply for you but also your viewers to create more debate. Like I'm used to having Level 80 teammates build barbwire (blocking their own team's flag respawns getting back into that objective quickly) and then them going to sit back in a corner 200m away from the nearest enemy - in their mind, they're having fun not overthinking the game, but it's also creating alot of negative impact on their own team.
@@allanaruba Ah, I understand. It seems it’s just not the kind of thing that would apply to me much I suppose. I mean, not to be a filthy cross-promoter but my latest video on my channel displays what I actually do for fun on the game these days. Most times I play I’ll spend at least a bit of time dedicated to some sort of meme or gimmick play style. Edit: I’m glad you think the videos are good quality because to be honest I care about that a lot more ;P
@@madvacation-rv1kc Console or PC? As controller/MnK may influence how efficient a player is with each? I know DREWJI has been having fun recently with the 20 bullet SMLE. See plenty of console players spam firing M1 Carbines (potentially using turbo pads that boost their fire rate).
I find that the 1906 and ZH-29 are both a lot more fun when you stick to iron sights and get in closer with them, rather than just treating them as sniper rifles for people who can't snipe. And the 1906 is _a lot_ more useful in V than it was in 1, because back then it was a three shot kill on a five round mag. It wasn't any more powerful than any of the SLRs that had at least double its capacity.
Ah, you may be right, but personally at that point I don’t see much point to use anything but the Model 8 in that role, except for maybe the faster reloads of the ZH-29, but I’d still be sacrificing much rapidity and recoil control.
I would argue against that for bf1, it held a very niche role as a counter sniper with almost no recoil and high velocity, but it is hard to use compared to the general liu and model 8
As one of the only ten MAB enjoyiers that still refuse to swap to the *"""meta"""* guns I'm obligated to mention it's near Lazer accurate hip fire with specializations. That and I'm a sucker for simplicity and that Italian made smg just hits different for me.
This is an amazing video, thank you. I agree with you A and S tiers guns. I think your D tiers should also fall to F, and your C and B tiers should be mixed up slightly.
I had never been much of an mmg user nor shotgun user (aside from the m30) prior to watching. But the slugs with the solid slug specialization are glorious, particularly on the trench gun with the bayonet. And the M1919 has come to be a favorite weapon of mine as well. As long as you're using good positioning (not camping like a bastard) it's very fun to use.
I'm just going to say that saying the 2A is an F tier weapon has to be my favorite meme in this video. It's pretty much *the* weapon you see most mega sweats use and it's the weapon you see people swap to when you upset them. Upon further watching, this whole video is a troll.
People love talking about how many kills they get with their meta guns or whatever but a good Battlefield player knows that the top of the scoreboard is reserved for the guys who know how how to get them POINTS. Oh? You slid around a corner and lasered me in the back? Enjoy the 120 points. I put an ammo box at the entrance to a busy hallway and made thrice that. Gonna do it again. Might throw out a “Defend that objective.” These V2’s boutta fall like rain. You’re gonna see me on the Top Squad screen with my goofy Commando Carbine because I spammed the health pouch button whenever an ally entered my crosshairs. Now just STOP GIVING UP WHEN I COME TO REVIVE YOU. DO YOU NOT SEE THAT SMOKESCREEN. I AINT RIPPING CLOUDS THIS FAT FOR MY OWN HEALTH.
why doesn't anyone mention how this guy uses the best video game ost's in all his videos? makes for great ear candy while hearing game facts n opinions
The only thing I would truly change is putting the jungle carbine and browning automatic rifle in S teir And maybe putting the standard PPK in A tier Because it makes me feel like James Bond
Their is a glitch with the anti-material rifles where if u throw down a demolition grenade and hold the pick up button, they go into semi-auto fire. With the 11 rounds on the panzer, you could theoretically solo a Tiger in like 10 sec from behind. I would put that gun in S-tier
Works the same way if you put down and hold to pickup an AP mine. I’ve done it before, but to be honest it’s not really a behavior I want to encourage.
Last night I was using the mp28. I also watched a 40yr old woman tackle two butt plugs open chambered the whole time. I dont know what was more impressive
I feel the same way. I’m actually working on that video now but getting footage has been an utter drag especially for not-very-good equipment like the RMN50 and the Kampfpistole.
I guess I could agree with you for the most part, but I'm not sure why you ranked the KE7 so low. I haven't played the game in a while so I don't remember the armaments for each class but I remember the KE7 being a jack of all trades and there weren't many better options. Also, the Suomi KP KP/31 was Ok. I just hated how you had to trade ammo capacity for rate of fire. I would usually just go for the Type-2A for that reason. The STG-44 was OK but it wasn't a niche weapon. Meaning if you came across a weapon in the assault class that excelled at range or rate of fire, you were outclassed. Plus the recoil was a bit high. I'd rate the STG-44 B or C tier.
Your videos are amazing. They almost got me to try BFV again. Luckily that game is so shitty it actually saved me from itself by refusing to load. lmao Your videos really are great tho.
@@professormemsclass yes. Your videos are well done and you have some great points. I figure in a lot of your same criteria like athletics. Of course I mostly stick to the bf1 stuff (the last true battlefield game 😝) I wish I could enjoy bfv. I just. . . can’t.
Maybe Battlefield 1, but I’m not very experienced with any other game quite as much as I am with Battlefield V. And even though my opinions on this game aren’t mainstream, they are informed. I wouldn’t want to do a tier list for a game unless I could do it justice.
My plan is to drive into the median on my way to my house, after my workout. I think of it every day. I told my wife and daughter its not their fault every day just so they don’t blame themselves
Ooh, I actually don’t use planes or tanks often enough to even know what I’m talking about in that aspect. The vehicle combat has never spoken to me as much as infantry combat has. Dinghy is S Tier.
@@professormemsclass as a Tank Enthusiast i would say the Type2A of tanks is the British staghound, it's has a ridiclus TTK other vehicles due to the Tulip rockets and it's fast speed, it compleatly outshines it's german counter part being the PZ38T. it's exclusivly used by try hards. so a Solid F tier . i mean you can Melt a tiger at close range so fast it can't shoot a second shot, the whole strat for the staghound is firing your main gun, then spaming all 4 of your rockets and then using your Main gun that has reloaded by then. by the time your volley of instant death is over the enemy tank will eather be all ready Dead or one Main Gun shot away from death regardless of vehicle your fighting, i've been on both sides of being the Toxic Level 250 tank try hard in the staghound and as a Tiger minding it's own busines farming infantry and then geting jumped by a staghound and instantly going from 100 HP to 20 in a literal second the Stug , Archer and Churchil Gun carrier are all E tier due to being just a worse version of there turreted Tank versions, and the Sturmtiger Requires Competent teammates to be usefull Even IF it's a One hit kill on any vehicle in the game But you can destroy your self with your own rocket if you hit a surface to close to you, and yes i've killed plenty of Sturmtigers by just walking up to them and them mindlessly shooting me out of panic in the process destroying them selves. so it's a D tier, and the other rocket tanks (Hachi/Caliopie) are just Leagues better then the Sturmtiger and still being an instant kill with a full voley of rockets. the rest are perfectly viable, Even AA tanks are fun due to being able to do chip damage to enemy tanks with there 40/37mm gun variants and being able to counter the toxic Aircraft try hards
@@oliwer23pl95 Ah I’m sorry if I came off as sarcastic, I just am not very invested in vehicle combat. But from what I do know about it I align with most of what you said
Isn't the Type-2A really OP? Or was it patched at some point? edit: Should've refrained from commenting until watching a bit more. I realize you really value the feel of a gun over meta power. Respect.
WHY DID YOU GIVE ME A TIMESTAMP FOR THE RIBEYROLLES!?!? ARE YUOU TRYING TO ANTAGONIZE ME?!?!?! *heavy breathing over furious keyboard typing*@@professormemsclass
I am a PC player, and I’m not afraid to admit that after all I just may not have found the right groove for it, for me it was mostly the recoil that drove me away from it, especially in my early days.
This is by far the most disconnected ranking of BF5 weapons I have ever seen. Please get some real experience with the game. Learn to aim, learn to control recoil and adapt your positioning. The best players in this game dont have completly other weapon tier lists without a reason.
You're completely missing the point of his videos. They're more about what he subjectively feels as a low to mid level player (like the majority of players). If you've seen his previous videos, he rates "meta" weapons as low and hates the idea of min-maxing something to be as efficient as possible. Hence weapons such as the M2 Carbine and Type 2A being rated very low while weapons considered as non-meta like the Johnson and M1919A6 being rated highly.
What’re you smoking. You’re severely mistaken. The type 2a is fucking S+ Tier. Just learn the recoil pattern and you can get 40,50,60+ kill games. It’s INSANELY GOOD!!!
Its actually crazy you rated several of the factually best guns in the game at such a low tier also these guns wouldn't be so bad to you if you used the actual good sights and specializations also you play like a absolute bot . Never rate again
You're completely missing the point of his videos. They're more about what he subjectively feels as a low to mid level player (like the majority of players) with little to no interest in being the best. If you've seen his previous videos, he rates "meta" weapons as low and hates the idea of min-maxing something to be as efficient as possible. Hence weapons such as the M2 Carbine and Type 2A being rated very low while weapons considered as non-meta like the Johnson and M1919A6 being rated highly.
Says a guy with below 1kd, 300 Spm, half a kill per minute and Combined Arms gameplay in his tierlist. This list doesnt make any sense, dont listen to it. Just because people make yt content of a game and get some attention with it doesnt mean they are good players. Watch Maxiq or Jordy (R.I.P.) instead.
Psst, I have combined arms gameplay in my tier list because I won’t stoop low enough to use the Type2A on other people. Also I never said I was a good player. ALSO also watch the intro next time.
Fun fact: the MP-28’s mag grip is historically accurate. German storm troopers during and after War I were trained to hold their weapons like that so their elbow can rest on their front leg when they were in a crouched position.
Several years ago, I described the Karabiner 98 as a "rifle for hunting men".
It’s a good way to put it.
The trench carbine full auto in the sniper class with the ability to set spawn beacons creates the most aggressive class possible, the mag capacity is insane too
yeah 42 bullets in a mag full auto.
Finally some love for the M28. I never thought I'd love an Italian gun from WW2, but theres just something about hiw versatile it can be. And that grenade launcher is so satisfying to kill tanks and infantry alike.
Yeah seems pretty dang underrated generally.
I just used that gun randomly and starts loving it lmao
Dude, you’re content is exquisite I don’t understand how you don’t have more subscribers
All in good time, I hope ^-^
Thank you by the way.
I love how he‘s playing Black Ops 2 Mp Soundtrack in the first part of the Video.❤
honestly your videos are most likely the best BFV videos on youtube
Aw thank you very much!
2:44 the reason the KE-7 has one reload animation is because the gun’s bolt will lock open on an empty magazine. And since the gun is open bolt, all you have to do is slam the mag in and let her rip.
Ah, I actually point this fact out in my Support Tier List video. I didn’t mention it here for the sake of brevity, but it’s cool that you know that fact.
@@professormemsclass BFV had a lot of untapped potential and missed opportunities to become one of the best WWII shooters out there. The KE-7 was also made with a 50 round magazine.
@@edm240b9 Most definitely. Obviously the Russian Faction and Eastern Front have massive potential, but even things like the KE-7 magazine really punctuate the potential that we missed out on. There are so many unique weapons of the era that are interesting enough without the need for unrealistic weapon-modding (not to insult you if you like CoD or something) but there’s so much more that more games should incorporate, especially in a series like Battlefield that’s willing to introduce extremely obscure weapons like the Ribeyrolles and Hellriegel into the public consciousness.
from what I hear is that the S2-200 was supposed to be an lmg, but do to a mistake in the programing on ea's part, it was set to the mmg setting, not lmg
i mean if you stuck a belt in the magwell it would look like a simplistic mg34
I would believe that
Eh even Dice isin't That imcompetent to pull something like that lol
@@oliwer23pl95 I'm not saying I'm right
@@oliwer23pl95 BF2042 exist
Your voice is so good to listen.
Ah thank you very much, I love to hear that kind of thing.
That's because he's Bob Ross.
To put the KE7 in the lowest category doesn’t make any sense. It’s a good all rounder if you don’t want to go prone with an MG34 or MG42 all the time.. It’s a great weapon.
I know that, I thought I explained myself though that the rankings aren’t about just how good they are in game. Like, if you use it then great, I think that’s valid. But there’s really no reason for me to make a video about an objective ranking, rather than making something more personal and fun.
@@professormemsclass , fair enough mate. But I think an objective ranking is more useful personally.
Excellent review ! Gotta love that MGS3 soundtrack for the S tier weapons ;)
But of course, it’s an S tier game after all. ;P
@@professormemsclass one of the best of its generation 🥰
could do a in depth gadget breakdown. if you havent. (dont think you have could be wrong) 8500 company coins is a big early investment for some of the gadgetsand im sure alot of new players dont know much about em
Right you are. I don’t think they’re exactly the kind of thing I could rank as precisely as in a tier list, but I do want to do a gadget breakdown.
This tier list is what truly goes on in the heart of every BFV player. The body and soul accept this tier list as true objective fact. No matter how sweaty you are at this game, you can't argue that every gun doesn't deserve its spot on this list. This tier list isn't a list. it's a mural, a carving in the wall, and each gun gleefully clicks into its place its home.The gun knows it. You know it too.
was not expecting rdr 2 ost in a bf v tier list
The Austrian Rep Pistol is my absolute favorite pistol. The stripper clip reload is great, and the rate of fire is nutty to the point i beat people in gunfights with the pistol when my main weapon was empty.
It is reliable and surprisingly controllable.
That’s fair
Honestly man, Im kinda glad I found your channel. Seems we have the same opinion on the hipster weapons that barely anyone uses and hate for “meta” weapons
Nice! I'm glad you found it too then
@@professormemsclass keep up the good work man! Can’t wait to see your new videos
Completely agree for Trench Carbine and Kar98k. Love those guns over anything else.
Well made video mate really appreciated it!
Another well put together video. As you state instantly, it's subjective. That said, some of those placements 😐
Can see how much your vibe for aesthetic and authenticity of the weapons plays a factor in your choices. How you seem to enjoy iron fights, shying away from the user friendly Nydar Sight (the typical Red Dot Sight that most FPS players will favour). Also again, your settings lean into a restricted playstyle.
On the other side of the spectrum of players are the slide abusing, ZK-383 meta sweats jumping in gunfights and "playing like it's CoD".
You touch on the aspect of how 'sweats' focus the Time To Kill (TTK) of a weapon ahead of the stability and consistency of other weapons. This is an aspect of using low Field Of View (FoV). With 3,000hrs+ or so of personal game experience and over 1,000hrs of studying BFv content (YT, streamers, discord debates, etc) there's only two insanely talented BFv players I've seen using near default settings to a high level - *CyborgJRS* (Xbox and originally the leaderboards' top console player for score, kills, etc with insane stats) and *Wilko Diablo* (a PSN youtuber who regularly drops 100kill+ games with every weapon in the game). Both are all about positioning, awareness, decision making, etc rather than abusing meta weapons and aggressive 'CoD style' movement that the majority of top players lean into.
Onto the big weapon placements which stood out to me...
*KE-7* - you have a F, but for me it's a C tier. You didn't feel it offered much and lacked character but it's essentially a baby Sturmgewehr 1-5 for the Support class. Slap a Nydar on it and it'll do what you hope without exceeding in any aspects.
*M2 Carbine* - obviously you see it as a cheap weapon, which on PC I can see why it would be. On Console it's slightly harder to get the maximum from. The weapon in the right hands is a monster if you have good connection and hit-reg on the day. It can challenge SMGs short range and beams in the hands of a top player. In the console comp scene, it's the main RIVAL to the go-to assault rifle.
*M1907sf* - You placed in D tier due to the high recoil and low map capacity but this is another weapon which if used to its strengths with higher FoV is one of the best 1v1 or possibly 1v2 weapons available. Obviously need to stick to it's CQC advantages but can tap fire medium range.
The *Breda* - would be C for myself. Obviously it's burst fire by default but it's strength is that 20 mag on single shot for short to medium range, it's alot more forgiving than the likes of the Gewehr 43, which if you miss a couple of rounds during a fire fight against more than one enemy leaves you vulnerable.
*Sturmgewehr 1-5* - you have in C but it's S Tier in most hands. It's reliable and user friendly. With the assault rifles side-by-side, the Sturm is the weapon that offers the best balance. Although it lacks insane fire rate, it lacks real flaws too. A solid hitter at any range, only really beaten by other meta weapons at their preferred range. It's the essential Jack Of All Trades, assault rifle 101 that most FPS will understand how to use.
*FG-42* & *BAR* - You have both of these meta LMGs in B class but they're two of the best weapons in the game. The slight performance difference between them is the FG-42 has slightly lower recoil whilst the BAR has a higher firerate (as well as it's changeable firerate). Similar to the M1907, these weapons excel in 1v1 or 1v2 situations and work best aggressively, challenging a duel.
*Lee Enfield* - I'm not a big sniping player myself and I agree with this not being a superior weapon but whilst you highlighted it's lower range and damage models, this sniper rifle has the highest bolt cycle (if memory serves) so is the best close to medium range bolt action for lower skilled players who will need to fire multiple shots. *Stodeh* had a great breakdown of the original bolt actions (sadly a little outdated now) but it highlighted the best conditions for each bolt action with this being the best close range and the KAR98 being the best long range.
*Johnson rifle* - seeing you list this as A tier was hurtful 😂 although the current standing of the BFv meta left the Semi Auto rifles in a great place for more open maps (Strategical Conquest, Breakthrough, etc), the Johnson doesn't do anything that others in its class don't do better. It's widely seen as the worst in class. The rare times I do die to it on Tactical Conquest, it's always a very low level player, laid in a bush who got the finishing hit as I was in a fire fight with another player. Can't recall the last time I lost a gun fight to it. Especially E tier for me.
*ZK-383* - You have it in A tier but it's widely seen as the best weapon in the game. Most people getting 100kills+ as infantry during a round of Conquest are using this weapon. It's the perfect example of the specialisations of the weapon being what make it what it is. Either *LLLR* for most maps so you get that strafe speed for adding mobility during fire fights and High Velocity Bullets for challenging other classes at medium range. The firerate boosting that TTK massively. It's the prime example of high Field Of View enabling better recoil control via perception.
*STG-44* - originally the meta weapon during the beta and early builds of the game before it's damage for nerfed. It's a fun weapon and user friendly due to that low recoil BUT it'll lose in direct duels against the Sturmgewehr 1-5 or M2 Carbine. With a x3 scope, the STG is a fun weapon, stable at medium range full auto situations. C tier for me due to it being dominated by the meta weapons. Do have it ahead of the slow firing Ribeyrolles though (packs a punch and stable for medium range BUT outperformed up close by SMGs and meta assault weapons whilst losing to SARs at medium range)
*M1 Garand* - again, felt like your love for authenticity held this alot higher than it should be. Better than the Johnson thankfully but the only people who tend to use it are the 'bots' (inexperienced low level players, still using default FoV, etc) as they crouch walk from bush to bush before mag-dumping the whole clip to kill one player, then dying whilst reloading 😐 so bad that the weapon sums up a low end cliche of player, similar to the 'Sten-bot' (the level 8 player who will actually beam you with the Sten whilst you're reloading after killing multiple players)
*M27 Revolver* - rightly placed as S tier, but I feel you didn't highlight it's 'high risk, high reward' aspect of being the hard hitting but slow firing sidearm that most top players will use due to their ability to hit those headshots with it being 1 shot kill in close to medium range. It also works well with the likes of the close-to-medium range king ZK-383, offering that precision high damage for finishing off an enemy at medium range.
This video is a retrospective overview of the things I already said in my other videos. If you don’t quite understand my reasoning for certain placements or thought I left something out then the dedicated video (sidearms/assault/medic/support/recon) might give you a better picture. Since those videos total over 2 hours of content I thought it would be best to keep it brief here. I admit sometimes I do leave things out.
I’m not really here to try to change anyone’s mind (except maybe on the M3 infrared) and I don’t want what are objectively no more than my opinions to be part of some kind of competition or values judgment. I’m not a top player, I don’t want to be and I don’t have the time. I keep making these videos because despite what I say people are entertained, and that’s what this is for. The tier list is just to draw people in, but anybody could make a tier list. I’d like to think that my content had value despite the fact that I don’t care about the meta and my views on weapons are deranged.
As for my settings and using iron sights instead of Nydar or lattey, a lower FOV doesn’t give you less recoils. It just makes you feel like you have less recoil. I’d rather have a longer range (my monitors are basic so to see better at range I choose to have lower FOV and magnification)
I don’t really know how to feel about your comments since they seem to be simultaneously well-meaning/attacking/missing the point. I’m not an analyst, a maximizer, and these days I don’t even have the time to play the game all that often. I’m just a guy that’s trying to capture how it FEELS to play the game and provide some personality since that’s a key part of this flavor of content creation. It’s evident that you already know what’s best for you, and you don’t need anyone to tell you. I certainly didn’t change your mind, so why bother taking anything away from this video gameplay wise?
@@professormemsclass I have a tendency to speak bluntly in what I intent to be constructive but can often be deemed 'combative' or attacking as you mention. Totally not my aim, again always refreshing to see new content on a game I've alot of time in both playing and studying, so I'm not aiming to throw negativity at someone. The quality of your videos is great. I did check out two of the videos so far.
Also, I totally get you play for fun, not to stress yourself or bore yourself with sticking to simply 2-3 guns and playing 24/7 Underground. The majority of the playerbase are similarly minded. There to have fun.
So as an experienced console player, BFv has a sense of familiarity and predictability to it, you quickly learn Who's Who - the comp players, the sweats, the pub platoon players, the trolls, etc. With the game sadly lacking an auto balance system it usually leads to unbalanced teams that most won't understand or care about (becomes boring to be on the stack, frustrating to be against)...
....and it's the aspect of when you see the average lower level, inexperienced player using the default settings which gives that *sense* and *perception* of sluggishness, high recoil, tunnel vision, etc. Like with the use of movement, manoeuvring and positioning you can quickly gage if a player knows what they're doing or is just there to make the numbers up.
Obviously weapons play a big part in the game, often working in tandem with the playstyle - weapons like the Bren, Madsen or Type 11 LMG can be great passive playstyle weapons that benefit from being used from a stationary position behind cover at medium range.
Obviously with my points concerning my own understanding/opinion of weapons reflects mainly the more meta playstyle but again, I've tried to include a couple of exceptional players who played at a extremely high skill level using non-meta methods.
My aim was to offer a couple of pointers not simply for you but also your viewers to create more debate. Like I'm used to having Level 80 teammates build barbwire (blocking their own team's flag respawns getting back into that objective quickly) and then them going to sit back in a corner 200m away from the nearest enemy - in their mind, they're having fun not overthinking the game, but it's also creating alot of negative impact on their own team.
@@allanaruba Ah, I understand. It seems it’s just not the kind of thing that would apply to me much I suppose. I mean, not to be a filthy cross-promoter but my latest video on my channel displays what I actually do for fun on the game these days. Most times I play I’ll spend at least a bit of time dedicated to some sort of meme or gimmick play style.
Edit: I’m glad you think the videos are good quality because to be honest I care about that a lot more ;P
What’s the best semi-automatic rifle in your opinion? And yeah, could you recommend any videos or TH-cam channels to become a better player? Thanks.
@@madvacation-rv1kc Console or PC? As controller/MnK may influence how efficient a player is with each? I know DREWJI has been having fun recently with the 20 bullet SMLE. See plenty of console players spam firing M1 Carbines (potentially using turbo pads that boost their fire rate).
I find that the 1906 and ZH-29 are both a lot more fun when you stick to iron sights and get in closer with them, rather than just treating them as sniper rifles for people who can't snipe. And the 1906 is _a lot_ more useful in V than it was in 1, because back then it was a three shot kill on a five round mag. It wasn't any more powerful than any of the SLRs that had at least double its capacity.
Ah, you may be right, but personally at that point I don’t see much point to use anything but the Model 8 in that role, except for maybe the faster reloads of the ZH-29, but I’d still be sacrificing much rapidity and recoil control.
I would argue against that for bf1, it held a very niche role as a counter sniper with almost no recoil and high velocity, but it is hard to use compared to the general liu and model 8
As one of the only ten MAB enjoyiers that still refuse to swap to the *"""meta"""* guns I'm obligated to mention it's near Lazer accurate hip fire with specializations. That and I'm a sucker for simplicity and that Italian made smg just hits different for me.
8:57 Love this mgs2 music and mgs3 17:51 Nice video
Thanks, glad you like the music!
This is an amazing video, thank you. I agree with you A and S tiers guns. I think your D tiers should also fall to F, and your C and B tiers should be mixed up slightly.
I'm glad you liked the video and agree with my top spots, thank you.
In my opinion, the Breda is better as a semi-auto, since you can shoot as quickly as you can tap the mouse.
I totally agree, it almost feels too effective
Fg42 with the 3x scope is the only way to go
Facts!!!!! This gun is just OP as fuck you can kill a full squad with just 1 mag of 20
its nice not seeing the same cookie cutter default opinion tier list. those have their place but stuff like this is more fun to watch for me
I'm glad, because this is much more fun to make for me too
^-^
Finally someone who plays like me lol i also choose my guns mostly based on how cool they are
Now THAT is the way to do it.
I run grease gun suppressed like a little rat
great content bro, although I don't understand everything perfectly because it's in another language, hugs from Brazil 🔰
Aw thanks!
I hope you do this for your bf1 series as well
I had never been much of an mmg user nor shotgun user (aside from the m30) prior to watching. But the slugs with the solid slug specialization are glorious, particularly on the trench gun with the bayonet. And the M1919 has come to be a favorite weapon of mine as well. As long as you're using good positioning (not camping like a bastard) it's very fun to use.
also congrats on the channel success, i just started watching a few days ago and it seems your sub count has gone up by nearly 1k
One thing play the model 8 at close quarters maps with irons and better hip fire.. it feels so fulfilling
I'm just going to say that saying the 2A is an F tier weapon has to be my favorite meme in this video. It's pretty much *the* weapon you see most mega sweats use and it's the weapon you see people swap to when you upset them.
Upon further watching, this whole video is a troll.
Love the content bro keep up the good work.
How about some Battlefield 1? :D
That's what I plan to work on next ^-^
nice video man
Thanks!
People love talking about how many kills they get with their meta guns or whatever but a good Battlefield player knows that the top of the scoreboard is reserved for the guys who know how how to get them POINTS.
Oh? You slid around a corner and lasered me in the back? Enjoy the 120 points. I put an ammo box at the entrance to a busy hallway and made thrice that. Gonna do it again.
Might throw out a “Defend that objective.” These V2’s boutta fall like rain. You’re gonna see me on the Top Squad screen with my goofy Commando Carbine because I spammed the health pouch button whenever an ally entered my crosshairs.
Now just STOP GIVING UP WHEN I COME TO REVIVE YOU. DO YOU NOT SEE THAT SMOKESCREEN. I AINT RIPPING CLOUDS THIS FAT FOR MY OWN HEALTH.
I love the MAB, full hip fire specializations and it can do really well in close range
Very true I’m sure
why doesn't anyone mention how this guy uses the best video game ost's in all his videos? makes for great ear candy while hearing game facts n opinions
The only thing I would truly change is putting the jungle carbine and browning automatic rifle in S teir
And maybe putting the standard PPK in A tier Because it makes me feel like James Bond
if the welrod was allowed to get a one shot headshot, so should the liberator. idk why they didn't do this for it.
I agree, it would have made the Liberator a lot more viable for meme kills. Instead we need to get creative.
Love your content!😊
Their is a glitch with the anti-material rifles where if u throw down a demolition grenade and hold the pick up button, they go into semi-auto fire. With the 11 rounds on the panzer, you could theoretically solo a Tiger in like 10 sec from behind. I would put that gun in S-tier
Works the same way if you put down and hold to pickup an AP mine. I’ve done it before, but to be honest it’s not really a behavior I want to encourage.
Fair enough
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The type 11 reminds me of an m60(as in game logic)
Slow fire rate and handling but chunky damage and no recoil
Nice vid, subbed
Appreciate it!
Just been using the drilling after not playing BFV for like 6 months. Hit the dirtiest long range snipe with it, about 300m
type 2a is a really great gun once u get the recoil patterns learned
Thats the problem why he hates it. Because its too good and "meta". If you've seen if previous videos, he dislikes guns that are promoted by "sweats".
IS THAT MOTHERUCKING MUV LUV MUSIC? holy based
Correct, also based for recognizing it
Will u do a battlefield 1 tierlist next?
I will in the future, but not just yet. I've had a couple more ideas for BFV Videos before I move on.
Good work 👍🏼
Thanks man
The mab 38 is a destroyer of worlds putting it in e tier is a felony
Me who mains pak 40s and AA guns:
I salute you
What's that cool sax song playing over the B tier?
Volition by Bill Kiley
@@professormemsclass Very delicate🤌
Last night I was using the mp28. I also watched a 40yr old woman tackle two butt plugs open chambered the whole time. I dont know what was more impressive
We still got all tye grenades and buyable equipment like for the recon the rn50 mortar. (Which i find utterly useless in any way)
I feel the same way. I’m actually working on that video now but getting footage has been an utter drag especially for not-very-good equipment like the RMN50 and the Kampfpistole.
I guess I could agree with you for the most part, but I'm not sure why you ranked the KE7 so low. I haven't played the game in a while so I don't remember the armaments for each class but I remember the KE7 being a jack of all trades and there weren't many better options. Also, the Suomi KP KP/31 was Ok. I just hated how you had to trade ammo capacity for rate of fire. I would usually just go for the Type-2A for that reason. The STG-44 was OK but it wasn't a niche weapon. Meaning if you came across a weapon in the assault class that excelled at range or rate of fire, you were outclassed. Plus the recoil was a bit high. I'd rate the STG-44 B or C tier.
Your videos are amazing. They almost got me to try BFV again. Luckily that game is so shitty it actually saved me from itself by refusing to load. lmao
Your videos really are great tho.
Haha, I'm glad you're liking the videos at least :)
@@professormemsclass yes. Your videos are well done and you have some great points. I figure in a lot of your same criteria like athletics.
Of course I mostly stick to the bf1 stuff (the last true battlefield game 😝)
I wish I could enjoy bfv. I just. . . can’t.
The M2 carbine is S for me because my great grandpa had it in Korea
Fair enough
Are you gonna do the same for any other FPS game?
Maybe Battlefield 1, but I’m not very experienced with any other game quite as much as I am with Battlefield V. And even though my opinions on this game aren’t mainstream, they are informed. I wouldn’t want to do a tier list for a game unless I could do it justice.
Lee-Enfield No.4 is an easy S tier for me 😍
Bren is absolutely one of my favourites
My plan is to drive into the median on my way to my house, after my workout. I think of it every day. I told my wife and daughter its not their fault every day just so they don’t blame themselves
why am i not subscribed to this channel...... let me fix that real quick.
Thanks for the suppoort!
does anyone remember when the game first came out the ke7 was one of the best guns in the game?
Haha my beloved KE7 in F tier
My apologies, my science is not fact based
(Edit: it’s fact CRINGE)
Nice mustache bro
Hey thanks bro
vehicle tier list when?
Ooh, I actually don’t use planes or tanks often enough to even know what I’m talking about in that aspect. The vehicle combat has never spoken to me as much as infantry combat has. Dinghy is S Tier.
@@professormemsclass as a Tank Enthusiast i would say the Type2A of tanks is the British staghound, it's has a ridiclus TTK other vehicles due to the Tulip rockets and it's fast speed, it compleatly outshines it's german counter part being the PZ38T. it's exclusivly used by try hards. so a Solid F tier . i mean you can Melt a tiger at close range so fast it can't shoot a second shot, the whole strat for the staghound is firing your main gun, then spaming all 4 of your rockets and then using your Main gun that has reloaded by then. by the time your volley of instant death is over the enemy tank will eather be all ready Dead or one Main Gun shot away from death regardless of vehicle your fighting, i've been on both sides of being the Toxic Level 250 tank try hard in the staghound and as a Tiger minding it's own busines farming infantry and then geting jumped by a staghound and instantly going from 100 HP to 20 in a literal second
the Stug , Archer and Churchil Gun carrier are all E tier due to being just a worse version of there turreted Tank versions, and the Sturmtiger Requires Competent teammates to be usefull Even IF it's a One hit kill on any vehicle in the game But you can destroy your self with your own rocket if you hit a surface to close to you, and yes i've killed plenty of Sturmtigers by just walking up to them and them mindlessly shooting me out of panic in the process destroying them selves. so it's a D tier, and the other rocket tanks (Hachi/Caliopie) are just Leagues better then the Sturmtiger and still being an instant kill with a full voley of rockets.
the rest are perfectly viable, Even AA tanks are fun due to being able to do chip damage to enemy tanks with there 40/37mm gun variants and being able to counter the toxic Aircraft try hards
@@oliwer23pl95 Ooh this seems very well informed, thank you very much for you input.
@@professormemsclass yea thanks even tho i see the sarcasm there, i had to offload my Staghound Hatred somewhere lol
@@oliwer23pl95 Ah I’m sorry if I came off as sarcastic, I just am not very invested in vehicle combat. But from what I do know about it I align with most of what you said
Isn't the Type-2A really OP? Or was it patched at some point?
edit: Should've refrained from commenting until watching a bit more. I realize you really value the feel of a gun over meta power. Respect.
Hey, no worries man. You did the right thing and came back with an edit ;P
You should really give the type 2A a chance it's an S tier gun
It’s kinda scummy, no hate to you but from my experience it’s play style can be kinda super sweaty
PROFESSOR!!!!! YOU WILL PAY FOR PUTTING THE SUOMI IN C TIER!!!
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WHY DID YOU GIVE ME A TIMESTAMP FOR THE RIBEYROLLES!?!? ARE YUOU TRYING TO ANTAGONIZE ME?!?!?! *heavy breathing over furious keyboard typing*@@professormemsclass
@@AsiagoMatteo Tough his mind lord, for he is blind
1 v 1 me... Welrod only.@@professormemsclass
Can you show m1897 specialization please ?
Quick Reload, Heavy Load, Penetrating Shot, and Trigger Job at 20:29 Quick Reload, Slugs, Solid Slug, and Trigger Job at 20:34
AG m/42 is A or S tier tho...no recoil and fast rate of fire.
I do like it more now than when I made my initial rating I think
Try the FG-42 with a x3 it's just better and op
You’re right, I don’t know why it took me so long but the high ROF LMGs are not hard to use with 3x scopes, they’re actually much better that way.
Are you a pc player? Bc ruby is so good on console imo.
I am a PC player, and I’m not afraid to admit that after all I just may not have found the right groove for it, for me it was mostly the recoil that drove me away from it, especially in my early days.
@professormemsclass yeah I kinda figured bc I was confused by ur picks but I'd imagine it's way different on pc!
@@kloo263 I should also mention that as per the intro, the tier list placements aren't exactly just about what's good in gameplay.
Yo Professor how are you I’ve been fighting crime recently 🕸️
I am good, always glad when I get a video finished.
Yeah I’m glad to see someone have taste in guns rather than stats🤓
For anyone watching this video, this dude is BLATANTLY wrong on so many of these guns
2:10 how did you not die..?
Combined arms lobby on easy difficulty, I didn’t want to use the Type 2A in a real game.
My man literally put my only 3 main weapons in F Tier lmfao
Oh no… I am so sorry
Grease gun in S tier .... what a joke XD.
closed this video after seeing type 2a in f tier xd
Gooooooood thanks for taking the time to leave a comment on your way out ;P
This is by far the most disconnected ranking of BF5 weapons I have ever seen. Please get some real experience with the game. Learn to aim, learn to control recoil and adapt your positioning. The best players in this game dont have completly other weapon tier lists without a reason.
You're completely missing the point of his videos. They're more about what he subjectively feels as a low to mid level player (like the majority of players). If you've seen his previous videos, he rates "meta" weapons as low and hates the idea of min-maxing something to be as efficient as possible. Hence weapons such as the M2 Carbine and Type 2A being rated very low while weapons considered as non-meta like the Johnson and M1919A6 being rated highly.
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What’re you smoking. You’re severely mistaken. The type 2a is fucking S+ Tier. Just learn the recoil pattern and you can get 40,50,60+ kill games. It’s INSANELY GOOD!!!
That’s the problem.
@@professormemsclass hip fire is the best with it tho. What’d you rate the stg btw? I must’ve missed it.
@@CloudxBoys I put in it S Tier originally.
Is this list a joke?
Kind of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Watch the intro maybe
first
Mods can we ban this guy? ;P
@@professormemsclass I am inevitable
Nah I shred with the type 2a
I’m sure you do, my Medic video goes more in depth on the reasons I don’t really like it.
Its actually crazy you rated several of the factually best guns in the game at such a low tier also these guns wouldn't be so bad to you if you used the actual good sights and specializations also you play like a absolute bot . Never rate again
You're completely missing the point of his videos. They're more about what he subjectively feels as a low to mid level player (like the majority of players) with little to no interest in being the best. If you've seen his previous videos, he rates "meta" weapons as low and hates the idea of min-maxing something to be as efficient as possible. Hence weapons such as the M2 Carbine and Type 2A being rated very low while weapons considered as non-meta like the Johnson and M1919A6 being rated highly.
Abandon Type 2A, return to historically accurate MP40, Thompson, Grease Gun
Says a guy with below 1kd, 300 Spm, half a kill per minute and Combined Arms gameplay in his tierlist. This list doesnt make any sense, dont listen to it. Just because people make yt content of a game and get some attention with it doesnt mean they are good players. Watch Maxiq or Jordy (R.I.P.) instead.
Psst, I have combined arms gameplay in my tier list because I won’t stoop low enough to use the Type2A on other people. Also I never said I was a good player. ALSO also watch the intro next time.
You had me until the chaushit. That thing is dog water
I used to hate it but it's so easy to control its very consistent imo.
with the hipfire specialization you can pretty much do walking fire like how it was originally intended@@kloo263
Bad video