Konami's Failed NFL Game
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- ESPN NFL Primetime 2002 was a commercial failure, and also a critical failure, but it was actually pretty cool, and paved the way for future football games like ESPN NFL 2K5 with its innovative and bold presentation.
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Presentation was gold in that era of sports titles. Immersive intros, music, little details.
I miss ESPN license SPORTS GAMES….
Back before everything was skipped 😂
People making the games actually cared.
on god
@@derrickwright5728 , I miss the classic ESPN and NFL.
I would rather play this than any the past 10 Maddens
I'd rather play with my pet rock
I’d rather eat my GameCube then play the last 10 Maddens
Right to be honest it doesn't look that bad from a game play point of view
This or literally any title around that time or a smidge later. Fever, blitz, street, the good stuff
I'd rather play with my pet cock
For a game in 2001, this game looks fantastic. The Graphics has aged really well.
respect king. i think they're watering down what they're capable of 20 years later.
@@nyckingballa3 It's called copy and paste. The problem is the developers are required to make a new game every year. They have no time for research and development.
I don't think those are console graphics, probably emulation
I really appreciate these retrospectives of lesser known sports games
Same here. Must be a New Jersey thing lol.
I like how they had Mark Brunell throwing right handed 😂
I just made that no comment like hold up am I trippn lol
Man seeing Brady is simply wild. Can’t believe he’s finally called it a career
When you posted on Twitter that this was coming, I got very excited. I actually *reviewed* this back in the day and was blown away by the presentation. That aspect still largely holds up more than 2 decades later, despite Visual Concepts outclassing it not long after. Berman and Jackson are authentic on commentary, even if the script is a bit thin… and those stat overlay and the score bug are so spot on for ESPN of the time period.
Konami did a great job in presentation with other ESPN-licensed titles, too… notably ESPN NBA 2Night 2002 and (surprisingly) ESPN X-Games Skateboarding.
The movement was really fluent and fast paced,the madden at the time was horrible slow paced.
Man banger after banger. Thank you SDTV
Had this game as a kid and would spend hours rotating it in between NFL GameDay, NFL 2K2, Quarterback Club and Madden 2002...The fun part about having multiple football titles at that time was where one game lacked, the others may have prevailed
I had this game on my PS2. Very underrated. The presentation was ahead of its time. It wasn't a great game but it had a lot going for it. I actually bought this over Madden because of the ESPN presentation.
This channel not having more subscribers is a fucking crime.
Appreciate the kind words! It means a lot
If we're taking about Konami sports games, we gotta talk about the "NBA In The Zone" series. Really underrated series.
Same devs that made NFL 95, Primetime Football, and NFL 98 on Sega Genesis. Definitely looked like a franchise that had a lot of potential.
I forgot this game even existed until now. I miss the early 2000s with all the sports gaming options
Right?
We all do my guy
Exactly ! Every system had 4 or 5 sports titles for each sport from different companies too.
Yes, the 2000s were the golden era of football games. Madden, NFL 2k, NFL Gameday, NFL Blitz and Blitz pro, NFL Fever, QB Club, and the College counterparts to these, except no Microsoft college one to match fever, and no match for QB club. Wow, to think back to these times. Now????? Just stripped down modern madden games. 😂
Konami made an nfl game, who would’ve thought
An NBA game as well.
It's interesting how 'American' this game seems.....every Konami NBA game I've ever played always feels sooo 'Japanese', they usually even have a GAME OVER screen when the game ends
Love all these reviews as of late. 👌
The intro alone gets me hype. Sad that the current gen games don't even come close
Next gen brought us good graphics and disappointment.
In the 80s Konami ruled the world
They could do no wrong then
this game don’t look too bad, it was made in 2001 lol
With Super Mario Bros that came out recently and you being a GameCube fan, I think retrospectives on the Mario sports games would be awesome.
3:39 starting here I'm noticing that the Packers roster from that era is instead on the Lions.
On a separate note, worth noting that Konami didn't just venture into the NFL and NBA with the ESPN license like you mentioned. They went into winter sports, track and field, golf, NHL and even having a game exclusive to MLS, the only games where you could play as MLS teams separate from EA's FIFA games, and unlike MLS in the FIFA games, Konami had all the MLS stadiums at the time. Looking back at it just shows how different the league was back then.
Those rosters were jumbled because it was from a fantasy draft tournament
@@SOFTDRINKTV That makes more sense! Saw Favre, Longwell, and Tyrone Williams in Lions uniforms and I'm like "Wait a second..."
There was so much choice back in the day with reputable companies competing with each other. Even if there were clear standouts at least the alternatives were playable and gave you a different flavour for if you wanted a change.
I've been waiting for a video on the Konami ESPN saga of games! Such an underrated game imo!
The best of these early Konami sports games was ESPN NBA 2Night 2002. I did a review
th-cam.com/video/TgSmjrPVBi4/w-d-xo.html
I mean, Konami made some pretty decent sports games every so often. NBA in the zone, winning 11. But it was always an uphill battle with football back then.
Winning 11 was 🔥
Konami’s International Superstar Soccer was better than EA’s FIFA offerings back in the N64 era, from what I remember.
Just goes to show the level of competition if a game from 21 years ago with better presentation and gameplay than modern Madden games does horribly with sales and critics. Let's just put it like this, if Madden came out with what they do today in 2002, Madden would've been where Konami's franchise is.
This wasn't as bad game as people made it out to be. NFL 2k5 and NFL blitz make me happy today.
damn i honestly had no idea konami made an NFL game that's very interesting honestly, great video softdrink keep it up!
I’ve never heard of this one… this is a gem 💎
Love these videos! Your analysis is so on point
I actually miss the days of 700 competing sports games
I actually really enjoy the gameplay in this title. Yes there are a few weird moments like players getting caught on each other, but it's snappy and fun. I'd much rather have my sports games be fun instead of realistic. Good review, man!
Wow I didn't even know about this game. Its quite a surprise to see Konami take a chance at a NFL Football.
( I know they did Double Dribble and Blades of Steel back in the NES era. )
Still for 2001 the graphics look incredible for its time. 😲
If its cheap I may try to pick this up sometime just to hear some classic Chris Berman lines. 😃
Thanks for making this video SOFTDRINKTV.
Yay! You finally featured my all time favorite classic game! Thank you for giving this a feature video and its due! I actually had to argue with the guy in EB Games that I wanted this and not Nfl2k2 when I bought my Ps2!
I was actually going to mention the Konami sports games when you did a video on the lesser known NBA games developed by Sony. The NFL QB Club series dating back to the 16-bit era would be a good retrospective as well (but those later games are awful!)
this wasn't the only American football game konami made in the 2000s, they also made Disney Sports Football (or Disney Sports: American Football as its called in japan to avoid confusion with the soccer football title)on GBA and game cube in 2002 as part of their short-lived Disney Sports series that lasted til 2003, the gameplay is arcadey as expected as your playing with teams made up of Disney characters. and this was made before nintendo advancing the Mario sports games during the mid-2000s with well known titles like super mario baseball or mario strikers. one could also imagine, would Konami try their hands at a american football video game again and have it be successful as PES. one could wonder.
I sank all my childhood into this. Glad to see some attention brought to it
You on a roll bro keep ‘em coming don’t stop. Let’s hit blitz 04’ the nba ballers series nba jam 04’ etc you know what you got here 🔥🔥🔥
That theme song brings back memories. Coming home from school and watching primetime Monday afternoons
This game was a hidden gem! Keep the videos coming Softdrink.
I miss going to the video store (😳) and seeing a variety of sports games. So many options.
Geez Tom Brady was in this game!
lol I remember this game. I was going to buy it at gamestop and even the employee was like dont do it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
5:05 that catch 😂
im earlier than a referee calling roughing the passer for Tom Brady
I remember The first time I played this... My Homies mom copped him this instead of Madden but we were blown away!
Dope video, I totally forgot about this game.
Konami finally made it with NBA Starting Five 2005, one of the best NBA games ever released. Sadly it was only released in Japan. Such an underrated game!
The best of these early Konami sports games was ESPN NBA 2Night 2002. 2Night became starting five. I did a review
th-cam.com/video/TgSmjrPVBi4/w-d-xo.html
Hell yeah I love these football 🏈 videos game reviews been subscribed for a good min never a bad video 👍
I remember playing this game for hours on end every weekend. So much nostalgia with this video.
Sad that this game in some aspects is more ahead of the time than Madden 23..
The game messed up Mark Brunell on the Jags, he should be left handed.
I never played this game but I definitely played their NBA 2Night games (NBA 2Night 2002 to be precise) I hope you can make a video one day about that game
beginning had me feeling like i was watch an OG nfl game on espn....👀
I knew of Tecmo creating NFL games on the NES but never knew that Konami created any NFL games. I heard of NFL GameDay but never played it. So this is the younger brother of ESPN NFL 2K4 and 2K5.
Small details made such a huge difference cheerleaders refs throwing flags miss that stuff
Sean Taylor was a fumble machine :D i had alot of glory with him and the first person football was awesome and i loved it... still we don't have another first person football game
you don't care
Man I dont remember this game, and I have always been into football and football games. But back then you had Madden, NFL 2K, GameDay, NFL Fever etc etc. Oddly during the PS1 and N64 era we really didn't play Maddens, I don't even remember playing Madden at all during that era...I remember playing Quarterback club.
This game is worth it just for the NFL Primetime theme and overlay. I used to love that show, total classic.
Sadly it's no longer needed, but I still love it's music.
Crazy how much better the graphics were than the ps2 maddens
Madden "16" The Last (O.k) madden!!!
Good video
Tbh I thought madden 16 and madden 17 were ok I think that the ignite engine had a lot of potential but they wasted it by switching to frostbite
@@switchbladeshinobi650 15,16,17 are some what semi similar. But 16 has the unique commentary that I love game play presentation is decent..fixing the sliders a bit helps .
I don't remember this game but it looks really crisp, like a PC game. Thanks for reviewing this!
I'm honestly surprised that ESPN itself was never able to claim the right to be able to make an NFL video game
I have this this game along with others like NFL Gameday, NFL Xtreme, and NCAA Gamebreaker. Still have safely in storage. I even have the first NFL Primetime back on Sega. Miss these games.
I cant imagine how expensive putting 3 trademarked names on the game was. "ESPN NFL PRIMETIME" sounds like a check I wouldnt want to write. If the game didnt sell well, then it's a failure solely on the investment of name recognition.
0:56 NFL 2K3 used ESPN but I guess not “fully” since Suzy Kolber and Chris Berman weren’t in the game yet and had the fictitious Michelle Wes(t)fall and Clark Dishman in their places respectively. NFL PrimeTime 2002 was definitely a stepping stone for the excellent ESPN presentation style in 2K3-2K5 despite PrimeTime’s clunky gameplay.
I seen that game years ago going through the gamestop pre-owned aisle. Are you planning to do a rise and fall of PES soccer? Used to be decent soccer/association football game.
Watching Wiggy catch a TD from Brady and then doing a backflip was 🤣
The wrap up tackle looks nice
I miss these games
Konami also made a soccer game that focused exclusively on MLS that year called ESPN MLS Extratime 2002.
Was planning on grabbing it
Graphics back then looked incredible for this game
I had this on PC. Even when that was my "Peak" Madden PC world for me, I enjoyed the presentation enough to like the game. But yea the gameplay wasn't as good as Madden back then.
Hey have you did a review on NFL quarter back club 2002 yet? It was pretty good
I see the work SoftDrink keep it up!
great video! however, there was some knitpicking with the statement that refs were too much for the ps5. EA said that players were complaining about the refs getting in the way. Blame the players on that one not EA
Konami was probably sick to their stomachs watching Sega stroll along and basically just scoop up the game they made, tweak it, and make people fall in love with it xD
Just got it and I'm LOVING this game
Ah the good ole days when we had options 😩
No wonder this game failed, it has Mark Brunell throwing right handed 😂
"ESPN Sunday Night NFL" for the SEGA CD in shambles right now as the first licensed ESPN NFL Football game. lol
Well you can't be good at everything. Konami at the time had an amazing football game with PES and baseball with PowerPro (and a bit later with ProYakyuu, what a shame that such a good game series is locked behind language barier for many).
In all honesty…if Konami were to make a game today, it would blow any attempt from EA or 2K, out of the water. Their soccer and baseball games are top notch. They pay attention to all of the small details of the sport when it comes to gameplay, and their graphics have never been an issue. This is coming from someone who is begging for another 2K football game. I still play All Pro Football 2K8….
Very true
I love Konami's sports games. Their "Pro Yakyuu Spirits" series of Japanese League baseball simulators is consistently one of the best baseball games ever - the batting physics (the way the ball comes off one's bat based on where the bat makes contact with the ball) are, in my opinion, so much better than "The Show" - and their PS1 remake of "Blades of Steel" was a load of fun. I seem to recall that they made some NBA games too. Sadly; I either forgot or never knew that they made an NFL game. Thank God for emulators. You can run PS2 games on an Android phone these days and that's exactly what I'm going to do after pressing Send on this comment.
Thanks for the video. I really enjoyed it and I learned something new.
I remember getting this game just because Edge was/is my all-time favorite Colt
This was one of my favorite football games
My brother and l loved this game. Golden age of espn too
Yo! Big supporter of your channel and content! We got similar game taste lol a dope video would be NFL Xtreme and NFL Xtreme 2. First football game I had on ps1 😂
the player models honestly look great for that time period.
2K5 was amazing! I remember buying it brand new for $20! Madden came out a few weeks earlier for the standard $60. I was a little biased; I'm a SEGA boy and the DC sting was still fresh. 2k2 was one of the best DC games, too!
Madden was expensive for something you bought EVERY year and in the end Madden couldn't compete and just bought out the NFL
2K football was kind of my start to football games outside of N64. The old football games has so many play options
ESPN presentation was first used in 2K football with NFL 2K3
20 years later and it still sucks just as bad as it did at release. lol.
NFL 2K five was actually a good game
Brunell is left-handed lol
I recently played nfl 2k5 on an Xbox emulator, my God the graphics are leaps and bounds better than the ps2 version lol
I don't think people really realize or remember from that generation how big of a difference it was cuz it's not really like that anymore since I would say since PS3 and 360 Yes some PS3 games ran worse but still graphic wise GameCube was either equal to or sometimes better than PS2 I had all three and I remember then getting Tony Hawk's Underground which I had as a GameCube game I rebought layer on for Xbox and it was crazy how much better it was
I was like 10 when we got the ps2 in 2001 and didn't really have any say so and wasn't really paying attention to da next gen at the time but lookin back, if I was older, I woulda chose xbox lol. I had ps2 and gamecube dat generation lol.
@@boodeesparx1192 same
CERTAINLY AHEAD OF THE TIME. AMAZING HOW ELECTRONIC ARTS JUNK IT AMERICAN FOOTBALL VIDEO GAMES... GIMME WILL THROWBACK INTO THESE OLD DAYS AND PLAY A GOOD PLAYSTATION 2 TO ENJOY WITH UNDERRATED GEM!
That theme song still slaps.
Mark Brunell was throwing absolute dots with his right hand
lol im glad im not the only one who saw that lol
Yeah. Pretty interesting for a southpaw lol
This game had physic based tackling, something Madden doesn't have today