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Ngl thought you would cover this mutated Elfs in Suramar when I saw "Spiderpeople". :D Nerubians are not spiderpeople for me. They are more like one of the Oldgods experiments or beings altered by them for servitude.
When you think about it, the Nerubians are pretty fucking great; They are descended from the literal mindless servants of the old ones, yet they actively turned away from the Old Ones, even while sat right on the doorstep of one. No wonder they were immune to the lich kings mind control.
Well it's more like the creatures that would one day become the Nerubians SOMEHOW mutated from their drone-like A'qir ancestors into said Nerubians which SOMEHOW allowed them to have the capacity to resist and then reject the influences of their progenitors, the Old Gods themselves...somehow, it's never stated when and how. (probably X magic something or some other *"plotium"* that made it possible..)
@@navilluscire2567 I wouldn't expect them to explain it properly now a days, but this was more before Blizzard went full retard. If I had to hazard a guess, it might have something to do with the Old God that they were stuck near, Yogg Saron. As the self appointed "God of Death" and just from what we have seen of him and his actions, he doesn't strike me as the kind to really care about his minions...like even less than your typical Old God. C'tun and N'zzoth were schemers, and Ol Yashji was considered and pretty damn good general apparently if his massive armies were anything to go by. Yogg strikes me as the craziest of the Old Gods more interested in the destruction aspect of their nature than corruption. He's more about driving people mad and killing them than controlling them. As such, The Nerubians would be driven by pure instinct to evolve a defense against him as his rule would have just lead to their extinction. Even a colony of drones will do whatever it takes to ensure the survival of the hive. Ain't the weirdest adaptation I can think of. There is a species of Bees in Japan that have developed the ability to kill the Japanese Giant Hornet which loved to hunt them by swarming them, covering them in bodies, and then vibrating their bodies so fast and hard that they generate enough heat to pretty much cook the hornet. They evolved to have a higher tolerance to heat JUST for that.
@@navilluscire2567 Don't know about the mutations but we know they developed philosophy deeming worship foolish and over time the overall concept became alien to them. Even "the old gods" became something along the lines of legends. There's a speculation for their evolution = the idea goes along the lines of them adapting to look the part of their new tol'vir slaves like with the architecture. Not sure I believe that, tho we have nothing else.
Have you considered making a lore series that is based around how the denizens of Azeroth view classes? I.E. how they look at Mages or how they view Warlocks in general
Fun fact, there was an MMO (Ultima Online) where the devs tried to simulate realistic population balancing for mobs, and they soon had to replace it with regular respawns because the players stripped the land bare like locusts and drove most animals to extinction near instantly.
@@agihammerthief8953 Jesus, that is real harsh dude, just goes to show how parasitic we are in nature. Literally we take but never give back, we used to, but now it is just to destroy everything in sight like basically ALL villians we fight do becuase we are the "superior" race in the food chain and deserve to be the ONLY living things on the planet that are smart.
I still remember back in wrath and how upset I was when they did my boy Anub'arak as dirty as they did. A 5 man boss and shoed in raid boss, no exploration of his background, very limited new lore on the nerubiens in general. I was so dissappointed.
@@jamestomlin5525 Right.... Its been sad to see. I quit playing wow all together about 3 months ago since I have just completely given up hope Blizzard would be able to fix their game. Not planning on coming back unless some massive changes are made. And even then, they have shown that they are capable of completely dropping the ball, so unlikely I will come back even if they do get their %$£@ together.
@@zemas1712 I know it's sad, I may crap on the game now but leaving hurt like hell. I jumped ship pre shadowlands after what they did to outlaw. No idea if I myself will ever be coming back while the current sorry excuses for people own and run the IP. Should it ever be sold off to another group, I will in a heartbeat.
@@jamestomlin5525 I ugly cried for nearly an hour after I ended my sub and uninstalled about a month ago. 13 years of hardcore playing for me. The sneaky shit they're pulling with the new patch was the icing on the cake. I picked up another mmo and I've been happier since. The overall lore might not be as rich, but at least the people that work on it actually care about their characters and players enough to show it. The Nerubians were definitely underutilized, and I would have killed to see more of the inner workings of Shadowlands denizens. Those cultures seemed so fascinating and all they ended up being were stepping stones for the big characters we no longer give two shits about. Seems to be an ongoing trend. :/
*Other necromancer:* I don't know why we don't make more stuff float or shoot death lazers, seems like it'd be super overpowered and would've helped alot in the whole taking over the world thing...**sighs** such as the plot demands I guess.
as a person who is afraid of spiders and tarantulas, I was terrified of them. especially that boss in azjol nerub that pulls you all in and walks up the web to fight with other nerubians. Hadronnox
14:52 "Us, the player characters, MURDERED the only living Spider-Lord we've ever seen" Speak for yourself man, I didn't play that garbage Islands feature at all. My conscience is clear :)
Imagine being a prisoner of ancient spider people, forced to listen to the history of their race and in the middle of the story they put a commercial. true race of villains.
Could have an explanation, or could just be happenstance without it being too outlandish in an universe such as WoW. The Titans did make their god damned installations in all the architectural styles immaginable for litteraly no reason.
I pretty sure they just forgot about the Nerubian connection when creating Maldraxxus. Shadowlands is a mess. To me Shadowlands is worse than BFA in terms of lore.
If I remember correctly, in one of thje Nerubian dungeons, there actually is a living Nerubian who gives you a quest for the dungeon (kill x boss), which was something I always found incredible because it showed that they weren't mindless spider people, and were an intelligent race like the Elves or the Taurens.
2022: "Will we ever see the Nerubians return? Who knows!" Me, watching in 2024, having a sensible chuckle as us adventurers kill yet another Spider Lord.
Finally some Nerubian lore. By far the most under appreciated races in wow. I really hope we get a "dark below" expansion to explore more of the Nerubians.
The Nerubians are my favorite non-playable race, specially for the fact that they're the only Old God race that renounced their ancestors, and developed their own identity as a society. They could have been allies to us, and I hope some day we can help them recover their kingdom, which would be the perfect oportunity to revisit Azjol-Nerub as the quest zone(s) it deserves to be. I will NEVER give up on that wish!
The Horde are allied with them in Wrath. In canon the Horde are the ones who free Azjol'Nerub from the Scourge while the Alliance lay siege to Naxx. This was a plan to prevent the Scourge from attacking us from behind during the assault on the Wrathgate. After the Wrathgate Naxx destroyed the Alliance army under it and turned them into undead but the Horde managed to prevent the Scourge assault on the newly freed Nerubians. The Scourge did manage to steal Anub'arak's body during the attack though.
@@Sorakeyblademaster37 They are probably the most peaceful race on Azeroth actually. Prior to the War of the Spider hey hadn't fought against anyone for more than ten thousand years. If not for the Lich King's war on them we probably would have never noticed they existed. Also they are not extinct according to Kilix the Unraveler they have thousands of eggs hidden away safely. And even to this day they remain friendly as in BFA you could turn in a item from Island Expaditions to them.
Old gods forbid the literal realm of death should have its own unique styles of architecture or maybe yet be a series of twisted reflections of all styles of architecture ever devised by mortal races from across the universes as a somber reminder of the fleeting nature of life itself. Naw, just straight up copy the designs wholesale from one or two cultures or factions like they were going out of style!
Now that the war within is out, I wonder if Platinum WoW will create a new video or update this one explaining the differences between the different nerubians
It is disappointing how little story Anub'arak had before his first death, and how easily he was thrown out of the story. It was stated somewhere that during the events of WC3, Arthas was actually worried about what would happen if Anub'Arak broke free from Ner'Zhul's control.
What if I told they're a fanfiction about nerubian it's called "Nerubian Journey" just searched it in google chrome I also read all the available chapters damn it's so good currently having a 50+ chapters I love the way people react to their appearances though which look horrifying
Ever since I read *The Road to Damnation* for the first time - absolutely forever ago - I felt sympathetic towards Anub'arak and the fate he'd suffered, possibly especially because the story (being from Kel'Thuzad's ice-cold POV) brushes it aside so easily. *He doesn't want to serve the Lich King, he just doesn't have a fcking choice.* 'In life I was a king. Today I am a crypt lord.' And serving the guy that killed him!!! Killed his *people*. And while I don't mean to presume what kind of a king Anub'arak was in life - I'd wager he didn't enjoy watching his people die, nor watching them continue to suffer in their unlife. (And suffer they did, they canonically just cover injuries with bandages and keep moving until they are finally felled for good. Which doesn't sound ,, good, in any way, even if you can't feel pain.) Idk I just always felt Anub'arak was a tragic figure, what with him still having enough of his consciousness to see and understand (feel?) what he's doing and abhor it, but no ability to stop himself, stand up to his tormentor *or even die for good, apparently*! [rant end, I just love that you made a video on Nerubian lore. I don't think they're creepy at all, actually, but I know that's probably just me / because of my long-standing fondness as explained above XD]
I've never read road to Damnation, but I like your hot take on the nerubian king. It'd be neat if we saw him in shadowlands and got to talk to him, but I doubt blizz will add him D:
@@bonefetcherbrimley7740 At how shit they manage to butcher the lore i'm glad he wasn;t there, i did like garrosh and disenchanted meself from the lore and game.
Your Videos Level still keep rising and you are doing so well! I also like, that you always stay positive and dont say anything about the negative opinions about different expansions, like Shadowlands or BfA You just stay objective and thats awesome!
Maybe rather than Maldraxxus influencing the Nerubians, maybe the Nerubians that died influenced Maldraxxus instead, changing the architecture over time. It's not like they can't make/demolish buildings and the like after all. So maybe they just adopted the Nerubian style instead of the other way around.
this actually would make a nice point. I mean... we already have aranak people in Maldraxxus, what if some of these guys were Nerubians? Also, Aranak would make awesome members of the House of Rituals, with all that "sorcerer society" thing going on, specially with such strong minds.
Sadly you can tell that Blizzard just designed Maldraxxus the way it is to score some nostalgia points, consistency be damned. Even more so when Danuser was like, "we might go into Nerubians background to explain this" even though we already know their background.
"Someday we may learn more about the Nerubians and their origin." Translation: We liked the bone look and reused it for Maldraxxis and will later change Nerubian lore to fit it later. We didn't even think about the existing lore of the aqir, nerubians, etc when we made the decision.
i'm glad someone's still making wow lore videos. not because acti-blizz deserves any amount of support, but the pained players still deserve to enjoy this universe.
Plat, you do fantastic work as always. Modern WoW gives me a bit of a headache and a heavy heart, but I catch each and every one of your uploads and remember the good times and the great stories this game supplied us all with over the years.
Man what a nice video! Absolutely love it! Nice humor, extensive reaserch done, quality ads intermissions and its just a nice funny video! Thanks dude!
the simplest explanation would be to explain that the nerubians have, or at least had in the past, some important necromantic traditions, we now know in shadowlands that northrend has some connection to death, and it would make sense they could be inspired by the realm of death if they had power over it, it would also explain why they were immune to the plague of undeath, they were exposed to necromancy for so long that they had become inoculated to it, and you could explain there architecture was just a combination of shadowlands and the cat peopels already somewhat similar architecture
honestly mate..it was so well done. I watched the first minute and thought: wow this could have been ripped off from an official hearthstone new expansion cinematic if there was one. really really well done!
LOL at 7:28 Magnar: *Beat the shit out of spider* Random Spider: "Hey man, I think you got him." Magnar: "You want what he's having?!" Random Spider: "No..." Magnar: "That's what I thought. Justice for Azeroth!"
tbh id rather have a spider race over mechagnomes. Just throw in lore about a humanoid sub species. Have them walk on 2 legs, 4 arms that clip and 5 eyes that you'll often only see 2 on older helmets and its perfect. Tbh the lower arms clipping through the armour sides look more like arm holes anyway. Plus a unique looking race!
That wishing to play WoW part of the video it hit me right in the heart Platinum WoW thank you I feel your love your videos are my favorite Warcraft lore videos mainly cuz I can watch him and know the Lord and still get a great laugh out of all the animations that happen in it
dude i never knew the history about Magnar, and the way he started walking towards the Nerubian dungeon made me feel so intimated, fuck, why cant we have vrykuls now? I also want Vrykuls to regocnize Humans too and feel somehow proud of them and seeing how they interact learning to their history. Imagine being a 8ft tall vrykul reading the Arathi Books and learning how much your descendants did and how they became so fucking great.
Compare to the 3 big races I always thought the Nerubians were the coolest, their spider and Beetle theme made them in my books 🅒🅞🅞🅛, and the work here in your video made me appreciate the old lore of WOW, I hope we do see them in the future, Anub'arak is the greatest king of them all.
Seriously, the editing and voiceover of your videos makes them so enjoyable to watch.. I mean, I've watched a lot of lore videos about WoW, but they tend to get dull and boring to listen to. These, however, are still teaching you about the actual lore, but also puts a smile on your face due to your humorous voiceovers and animations! I mean, even your ads are funny, especially the one in "The Warcraft Villains Who Did NOTHING WRONG" - BALLS! xD Keep up the amazing work!
I was watching this video and when the question on how the maldraxxus structures are identical to the nerubian's structures, at the beginning you said that the nerubians took over the Tol'vir and redecorated the location, and used those structures as there main design. So the real question is the connection between the titan constructs and the shadowlands.
Well, we don’t know for sure how long ago Odyn made the pact with Mueh’zala to peer into the Shadowlands. It could’ve happened before the Tol’vir were created, and then Odyn could’ve had an influence on the architecture, considering it was supposed to protect the engines and Maldraxxus is very war-oriented. Then the Nerubians take over the Tol’vir structures, later lose to the Scourge who adapt those structures for their purposes while somewhat returning to the original Maldraxxus designs due to the Lich King’s connection to the Shadowlands. We’ve sort of come full circle.
Don't know if any new lead writer could do justice to the lore anymore without butchering it further . If Metzen was still working he'd have his own vision on how he'd expand the lore.
@@ryuno2097 During bfa and now sl many people in the community presented very interesting and logical changes to the lore. Blizzard could just hire those people with better understanding and love for this world than the ones that are in the writing department.
@@ryuno2097 Anything is preferable to this dude, seriously. You can even see the contradiction on this video. The Nerubians inherited the architecture from the Aqir, which in turn took it from the Tol'vir and the Black Empire, and then Danuser comes in and says "Uhhhhh no actually they were inspired by Maldraxxus"
11:29 Why do bad writers try to be so cryptic and enigmatic when answering these kinds of questions? I'd have 1000x more respect for someone who just said "I suppose that's a bit of a plothole. We wanted to make them look like the Scourge fortresses, but we never thought about their origins in Nerubian architecture." Because that's clearly what happened. Pretending you have the answer to every single question doesn't make you look like a master of story craft, it makes you look like a bullshitter.
A Most spooky storytime. Pure gold as always. Dam those animation and battles are so cool and lively. Good balance of funny and informative, also platinum has nice voice that fits the vids.
To be honest I just find it more lazy and uninspired. Could the death realm have similar architectural styles as the Scourge? Sure, but make it sort of like a twisted and dark graveyard of ALL architecture ever wrought by mortals or even undead hands, ruins of past and present (and future..) civilizations laying about as monuments to inevitably, reminding us that everything eventual ends. To be honest the Shadowlands could've and should've been way more trippy and surreal, an odd but unsettling reflection of life as I think befits an afterlife realm.
I think the reason they have similarities between their architecture and maldraxxus is some powerful nerubian saw the same thing Odyn did, but with that zone. They could easily retcon the tol’vir thing (or I could be wrong and it’s something way different)
There is some lore about Anub'Arak in Warcraft 3 TFT when he enters Azjol Nerub with Arthas, the living nerubians say "Look, it's the traitor king!" then Arthas replies "Who, me?" but Anub'Arak clarifies this by saying they were actually referring to himself. Idk, maybe there's something to it we didn't know. also audible trial *audible trial* AUDIBLE TRIAL lol
What Platinum didn`t explain well was that Anub`Arak was slain and ressurected not at the end of the war, but in the midst of it. For the rest of the war he was leading the charge for the scourge, so his people labeled him "Traitor King" as a result.
@@alejandronieto4212 the same can be said for the Aqir who couldn't beat the Trolls, nerubians who couldn't beat the valarjar and the Qiraji, who couldn't beat the elves and the dragons.
Platinum WoW: *Talks about Magnar Icebreaker* Me: _"Rip and Tear, Until it is Done..."_ I feel that BfA really missed out on a chance to bring the Nerubians back into the fold as a force to reckon with due to them being technically Aqir and as such minions of the Old Gods. We could have had a N'Zoth invasion site in The Storm Peaks around Ulduar that Old God minions would attack at; with one of the threats faced there being the Nerubians.
An old fanfic idea of mine would be a patch or full expansion where the remnants of the Qiraji, Nerubians, and Mantid join forces to reclaim their empires and unleash a final swarm.
the way Anub'arak and the livin nerubians talked about it in the frozen throne, it seemed that he actively betrayed them and willingly joined the lich king, at least that was my reading of it
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Ngl thought you would cover this mutated Elfs in Suramar when I saw "Spiderpeople". :D
Nerubians are not spiderpeople for me.
They are more like one of the Oldgods experiments or beings altered by them for servitude.
The nerubians are cool AF, thanks for covering them.
I might actually sign up for this. I like the idea of their voices narrating the book
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@@Mishdj1 Wait why did you comment this? I'm concerned now...
When you think about it, the Nerubians are pretty fucking great; They are descended from the literal mindless servants of the old ones, yet they actively turned away from the Old Ones, even while sat right on the doorstep of one. No wonder they were immune to the lich kings mind control.
Undead are immune to Void corruption so maybe yes the livimg void creatures are immune to undeath?
Well it's more like the creatures that would one day become the Nerubians SOMEHOW mutated from their drone-like A'qir ancestors into said Nerubians which SOMEHOW allowed them to have the capacity to resist and then reject the influences of their progenitors, the Old Gods themselves...somehow, it's never stated when and how. (probably X magic something or some other *"plotium"* that made it possible..)
@@navilluscire2567 I wouldn't expect them to explain it properly now a days, but this was more before Blizzard went full retard. If I had to hazard a guess, it might have something to do with the Old God that they were stuck near, Yogg Saron. As the self appointed "God of Death" and just from what we have seen of him and his actions, he doesn't strike me as the kind to really care about his minions...like even less than your typical Old God. C'tun and N'zzoth were schemers, and Ol Yashji was considered and pretty damn good general apparently if his massive armies were anything to go by. Yogg strikes me as the craziest of the Old Gods more interested in the destruction aspect of their nature than corruption. He's more about driving people mad and killing them than controlling them. As such, The Nerubians would be driven by pure instinct to evolve a defense against him as his rule would have just lead to their extinction. Even a colony of drones will do whatever it takes to ensure the survival of the hive. Ain't the weirdest adaptation I can think of. There is a species of Bees in Japan that have developed the ability to kill the Japanese Giant Hornet which loved to hunt them by swarming them, covering them in bodies, and then vibrating their bodies so fast and hard that they generate enough heat to pretty much cook the hornet. They evolved to have a higher tolerance to heat JUST for that.
@@navilluscire2567 Don't know about the mutations but we know they developed philosophy deeming worship foolish and over time the overall concept became alien to them. Even "the old gods" became something along the lines of legends.
There's a speculation for their evolution = the idea goes along the lines of them adapting to look the part of their new tol'vir slaves like with the architecture. Not sure I believe that, tho we have nothing else.
"But there was one thing they weren't inmune to... Being murdered!"
I f*cking lost it in there.
pretty similar to cockroach. seems that physical attack always works.
9:18
Have you considered making a lore series that is based around how the denizens of Azeroth view classes? I.E. how they look at Mages or how they view Warlocks in general
This one I like
Great idea
This is a great idea.
100% would watch
Great for roleplayers
Me when I see living Nerubians being killed by players: “Stop, they’re an Endangered Species!”
Fun fact, there was an MMO (Ultima Online) where the devs tried to simulate realistic population balancing for mobs, and they soon had to replace it with regular respawns because the players stripped the land bare like locusts and drove most animals to extinction near instantly.
@@agihammerthief8953 Jesus, that is real harsh dude, just goes to show how parasitic we are in nature. Literally we take but never give back, we used to, but now it is just to destroy everything in sight like basically ALL villians we fight do becuase we are the "superior" race in the food chain and deserve to be the ONLY living things on the planet that are smart.
@@raversfantasykb6304 Hardcore edge on edge action!
@@agihammerthief8953 Now that's a gamer mindset right there
And now they're like every other enemy.
I still remember back in wrath and how upset I was when they did my boy Anub'arak as dirty as they did.
A 5 man boss and shoed in raid boss, no exploration of his background, very limited new lore on the nerubiens in general. I was so dissappointed.
Little did you know, that half assed approach would stick through current wow 🤣🤣
@@jamestomlin5525 Right.... Its been sad to see.
I quit playing wow all together about 3 months ago since I have just completely given up hope Blizzard would be able to fix their game. Not planning on coming back unless some massive changes are made. And even then, they have shown that they are capable of completely dropping the ball, so unlikely I will come back even if they do get their %$£@ together.
@@zemas1712 I know it's sad, I may crap on the game now but leaving hurt like hell. I jumped ship pre shadowlands after what they did to outlaw.
No idea if I myself will ever be coming back while the current sorry excuses for people own and run the IP. Should it ever be sold off to another group, I will in a heartbeat.
the fact that ICC didnt had a nerubian quarter was one of my biggest dissapointments in the raid
@@jamestomlin5525 I ugly cried for nearly an hour after I ended my sub and uninstalled about a month ago. 13 years of hardcore playing for me. The sneaky shit they're pulling with the new patch was the icing on the cake. I picked up another mmo and I've been happier since. The overall lore might not be as rich, but at least the people that work on it actually care about their characters and players enough to show it.
The Nerubians were definitely underutilized, and I would have killed to see more of the inner workings of Shadowlands denizens. Those cultures seemed so fascinating and all they ended up being were stepping stones for the big characters we no longer give two shits about. Seems to be an ongoing trend. :/
"Yeah.. I think i can make this bitch fly" is now my new favorite WoW lore moment
LOL AGREE
Yeah agree !
I can hear this no other way. On that day, someone REALLY loved their job.
12:48
*Other necromancer:* I don't know why we don't make more stuff float or shoot death lazers, seems like it'd be super overpowered and would've helped alot in the whole taking over the world thing...**sighs** such as the plot demands I guess.
I was so sad when they were only given 2 dungeons they had such a cool environment and would of loved to see them built up more
I wanted to help them, and happily await their sudden but inevitable betrayal.
They were supposed to have an entire underground zone. Blizz failed them bad
Missed opportunity to have an underground zone, and a nerubian raid
Azjol nerub could have been easily a raid
A classic wrath release that added the cut content like the Azjol-nerub zone, the planned crystalsong forest and all the rest would be godly.
as a person who is afraid of spiders and tarantulas, I was terrified of them. especially that boss in azjol nerub that pulls you all in and walks up the web to fight with other nerubians. Hadronnox
14:52 "Us, the player characters, MURDERED the only living Spider-Lord we've ever seen"
Speak for yourself man, I didn't play that garbage Islands feature at all. My conscience is clear :)
I have no choice ;-; I'm trying to collect the dk tier 10 25-man normal appearances and I can only get the belt and boots from island expeditions
@@gregorhenry503 you''re a DK so it's not like your conscience is a problem anyway
i like the island expeditions, the loot is cool and you get experience
Platinum WoW is literally the most entertaining lore videos we'll likely ever see. Also, "I'm the fifth beatle" cracked me up lmao.
Its canon now
@@eyoshinthemaximum Agreed.
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@@Kuyosaki Oh haha, didn't even see that xD
Agreed! It’s impeccable
"The truth is, they did not have a lot of victories".
Well they lost against trolls. How competent can they be?
Well then again the trolls were the most powerful around that time.
Lol'd so hard
And who beat them? Mutated trolls, of course. Wretched, tuskless and utterly addicted to the Arcane, but they still had a little trolling in them.
Trolls be spooky mon
That was the trolls pre-nerf
Imagine being a prisoner of ancient spider people, forced to listen to the history of their race and in the middle of the story they put a commercial. true race of villains.
That's the entire backbone of spider people economy!
I’m glad you touched upon the Maldraxxus Paradox with the Nerubian architecture. It’s been bugging me since Shadowlands launched.
It’s just more missing lore that could potentially be explained later, hopefully
Could have an explanation, or could just be happenstance without it being too outlandish in an universe such as WoW. The Titans did make their god damned installations in all the architectural styles immaginable for litteraly no reason.
same, i FUCKING HATED the retcons and additions to old lore that SL did, but was nowhere mention in the old games or lore
@@Frenchcoward There are no retcons in SL, only recontextualizations.
I pretty sure they just forgot about the Nerubian connection when creating Maldraxxus. Shadowlands is a mess. To me Shadowlands is worse than BFA in terms of lore.
If I remember correctly, in one of thje Nerubian dungeons, there actually is a living Nerubian who gives you a quest for the dungeon (kill x boss), which was something I always found incredible because it showed that they weren't mindless spider people, and were an intelligent race like the Elves or the Taurens.
They are woefully underutilized. As said in the video it was supposed to be an entire zone after all
@@techmaster9775 Would have been cool to play one. Every race in every game is always humanoid.
They hate other races but they hated the lichking and his scourge more. So they chose to work with the other races to regain their city.
Cows are not intelligent.
ah yes the only 2 intelligence races, elves and tauren
2022: "Will we ever see the Nerubians return? Who knows!"
Me, watching in 2024, having a sensible chuckle as us adventurers kill yet another Spider Lord.
Finally some Nerubian lore. By far the most under appreciated races in wow. I really hope we get a "dark below" expansion to explore more of the Nerubians.
War within is coming
The Nerubians are my favorite non-playable race, specially for the fact that they're the only Old God race that renounced their ancestors, and developed their own identity as a society. They could have been allies to us, and I hope some day we can help them recover their kingdom, which would be the perfect oportunity to revisit Azjol-Nerub as the quest zone(s) it deserves to be. I will NEVER give up on that wish!
Mantid kinda did the same. Only thier old god died, then they rejoined him when he was revived
The Horde are allied with them in Wrath. In canon the Horde are the ones who free Azjol'Nerub from the Scourge while the Alliance lay siege to Naxx.
This was a plan to prevent the Scourge from attacking us from behind during the assault on the Wrathgate. After the Wrathgate Naxx destroyed the Alliance army under it and turned them into undead but the Horde managed to prevent the Scourge assault on the newly freed Nerubians. The Scourge did manage to steal Anub'arak's body during the attack though.
I'm skeptical about this. The Nerubians are extremely evil so their extinction is probably a good thing.
@@Sorakeyblademaster37 They are probably the most peaceful race on Azeroth actually. Prior to the War of the Spider hey hadn't fought against anyone for more than ten thousand years. If not for the Lich King's war on them we probably would have never noticed they existed.
Also they are not extinct according to Kilix the Unraveler they have thousands of eggs hidden away safely. And even to this day they remain friendly as in BFA you could turn in a item from Island Expaditions to them.
@@Sorakeyblademaster37Lawful Evil. They don’t kill for no reason and are capable of being reasoned with.
The editing on this video is wonderful Platinum, absolutely wonderful. Thank you for your hard work to ring this to us.
Blizzard says : "We'll see later"
Blizzard means : " We did not think about it at all okay, undead had spiky tower, realm of undead get spiky tower "
Old gods forbid the literal realm of death should have its own unique styles of architecture or maybe yet be a series of twisted reflections of all styles of architecture ever devised by mortal races from across the universes as a somber reminder of the fleeting nature of life itself. Naw, just straight up copy the designs wholesale from one or two cultures or factions like they were going out of style!
Now that the war within is out, I wonder if Platinum WoW will create a new video or update this one explaining the differences between the different nerubians
11:40 15:07 and here we are. War Within - i wonder how many info we will get about this race which i honestly think its one of the most badass looking.
And it looks like we'll be sent to exterminate them again lol🤣
It is disappointing how little story Anub'arak had before his first death, and how easily he was thrown out of the story.
It was stated somewhere that during the events of WC3, Arthas was actually worried about what would happen if Anub'Arak broke free from Ner'Zhul's control.
and even as a Unit the Crypt Lord is terrifying.
Yeah there was this whole implication that the nerubians could be this explosive unstoppable force if they had the chance to muster their power.
Yeah, because Anub'arak was a damn freaking monster who loathed the Lich King more than anything else.
Platinum WoW is starting to make better cinematics than the actual in-game cinematics.
Also His Lore Is Way BETTER than ACTUAL IN-GAME Lore
They'll just put someone worst
11:47 That's PR speak for: "we have no fucking idea, we haven't written that yet."
Its so sad they dont care enough about their own game or the audience. The wrong people are in charge for sure.
Always been my favourite race in the Warcraft universe, ever since warcraft 3 and Anub'arak in the Scourge campagin.
Ah yes, macro management fest feat burrow / unburrow & enough mana to spam scarabs while impaling... Fun days of W3
@@Jyxero - micro*
The undead trying to crawl out of the ground only to be dragged back in was phenomenal. love the animation and the sprinkle of comedy. Great work
What if I told they're a fanfiction about nerubian it's called "Nerubian Journey" just searched it in google chrome
I also read all the available chapters damn it's so good currently having a 50+ chapters
I love the way people react to their appearances though which look horrifying
OK, I think I can explain the discrepancies in the lore:
Blizzard fired the original writers and the new ones didn’t know Jack
They also just forget sometimes. (coughMetzencough).
Ever since I read *The Road to Damnation* for the first time - absolutely forever ago - I felt sympathetic towards Anub'arak and the fate he'd suffered, possibly especially because the story (being from Kel'Thuzad's ice-cold POV) brushes it aside so easily. *He doesn't want to serve the Lich King, he just doesn't have a fcking choice.*
'In life I was a king. Today I am a crypt lord.' And serving the guy that killed him!!! Killed his *people*.
And while I don't mean to presume what kind of a king Anub'arak was in life - I'd wager he didn't enjoy watching his people die, nor watching them continue to suffer in their unlife. (And suffer they did, they canonically just cover injuries with bandages and keep moving until they are finally felled for good. Which doesn't sound ,, good, in any way, even if you can't feel pain.)
Idk I just always felt Anub'arak was a tragic figure, what with him still having enough of his consciousness to see and understand (feel?) what he's doing and abhor it, but no ability to stop himself, stand up to his tormentor *or even die for good, apparently*!
[rant end, I just love that you made a video on Nerubian lore. I don't think they're creepy at all, actually, but I know that's probably just me / because of my long-standing fondness as explained above XD]
I've never read road to Damnation, but I like your hot take on the nerubian king. It'd be neat if we saw him in shadowlands and got to talk to him, but I doubt blizz will add him D:
@@bonefetcherbrimley7740 I've actually daydreamed about him appearing in Maldraxxus... one can hope right??? :''D But yeah I don't think so :(
@@bonefetcherbrimley7740 At how shit they manage to butcher the lore i'm glad he wasn;t there, i did like garrosh and disenchanted meself from the lore and game.
actually when blizz was working on wotlk they had Anub breaking free and help take down lk with everyone in plans, god I wish it was like this
@@Biopax1 😦😦😦😦
IF U ARE LYING ---
*sobs in broken dreams*
[i at least want to dream ok]
I dont play WoW anymore but I will never stop loving these lore videos. They're just done so well, I never miss an upload
"My might cannot be matched".
Is that why you're living in a hole in the ground with no presence in the world?
Maybe there are so many spider-dudes because spiders are the WoW equivalent of crabs in that everything evolves into them.
Your Videos Level still keep rising and you are doing so well!
I also like, that you always stay positive and dont say anything about the negative opinions about different expansions, like Shadowlands or BfA
You just stay objective and thats awesome!
Maybe rather than Maldraxxus influencing the Nerubians, maybe the Nerubians that died influenced Maldraxxus instead, changing the architecture over time. It's not like they can't make/demolish buildings and the like after all. So maybe they just adopted the Nerubian style instead of the other way around.
this actually would make a nice point. I mean... we already have aranak people in Maldraxxus, what if some of these guys were Nerubians? Also, Aranak would make awesome members of the House of Rituals, with all that "sorcerer society" thing going on, specially with such strong minds.
Sadly you can tell that Blizzard just designed Maldraxxus the way it is to score some nostalgia points, consistency be damned. Even more so when Danuser was like, "we might go into Nerubians background to explain this" even though we already know their background.
@@jordanread5829 or more likely to recycle assets to save time and effort.
Thanks for using Anub'arak's original voice, Blizzard struck gold with that voice work and have yet to match it since
They even managed to stuck it IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGE. Do you realise how hard it is for german/french/spanish players to get decent voice work?
Platinum is the only WOW content I still care about!
Fascinating thing is:
I don't really care for WoW. Never have.
But your videos are so well made that I absolutely love to watch them.
Heh, I have the same relationship to the Warhammer fantasy universe. The games don't interest me, but the lore is awesome.
We can appreciate what it used to be without supporting what it currently is.
Thanks for keeping WoW alive for those who no longer play anymore!
"Someday we may learn more about the Nerubians and their origin." Translation: We liked the bone look and reused it for Maldraxxis and will later change Nerubian lore to fit it later. We didn't even think about the existing lore of the aqir, nerubians, etc when we made the decision.
i'm glad someone's still making wow lore videos. not because acti-blizz deserves any amount of support, but the pained players still deserve to enjoy this universe.
Plat, you do fantastic work as always. Modern WoW gives me a bit of a headache and a heavy heart, but I catch each and every one of your uploads and remember the good times and the great stories this game supplied us all with over the years.
The lore connection is: it was REALLY easy to retexture this nerubian model and it saved us a lot of development time
They live!!!!!! There are more of them!!!!!!! The War Within!!!!
14:56
I love Nerubians! So glad you're doing their lore.
Everytime I watch one of your videos I get the urge to play WoW again. Love your videos, the level of quality is insane, keep up the good work my man.
Man what a nice video! Absolutely love it! Nice humor, extensive reaserch done, quality ads intermissions and its just a nice funny video! Thanks dude!
I always loved the nerubian language with those hisses and clicks
the simplest explanation would be to explain that the nerubians have, or at least had in the past, some important necromantic traditions, we now know in shadowlands that northrend has some connection to death, and it would make sense they could be inspired by the realm of death if they had power over it, it would also explain why they were immune to the plague of undeath, they were exposed to necromancy for so long that they had become inoculated to it, and you could explain there architecture was just a combination of shadowlands and the cat peopels already somewhat similar architecture
honestly mate..it was so well done. I watched the first minute and thought: wow this could have been ripped off from an official hearthstone new expansion cinematic if there was one. really really well done!
LOL at 7:28
Magnar: *Beat the shit out of spider*
Random Spider: "Hey man, I think you got him."
Magnar: "You want what he's having?!"
Random Spider: "No..."
Magnar: "That's what I thought. Justice for Azeroth!"
tbh id rather have a spider race over mechagnomes.
Just throw in lore about a humanoid sub species. Have them walk on 2 legs, 4 arms that clip and 5 eyes that you'll often only see 2 on older helmets and its perfect.
Tbh the lower arms clipping through the armour sides look more like arm holes anyway. Plus a unique looking race!
That wishing to play WoW part of the video it hit me right in the heart Platinum WoW thank you I feel your love your videos are my favorite Warcraft lore videos mainly cuz I can watch him and know the Lord and still get a great laugh out of all the animations that happen in it
dude i never knew the history about Magnar, and the way he started walking towards the Nerubian dungeon made me feel so intimated, fuck, why cant we have vrykuls now? I also want Vrykuls to regocnize Humans too and feel somehow proud of them and seeing how they interact learning to their history. Imagine being a 8ft tall vrykul reading the Arathi Books and learning how much your descendants did and how they became so fucking great.
Compare to the 3 big races I always thought the Nerubians were the coolest, their spider and Beetle theme made them in my books 🅒🅞🅞🅛, and the work here in your video made me appreciate the old lore of WOW, I hope we do see them in the future, Anub'arak is the greatest king of them all.
Excited to see the Nerubian lore get expanded upon greatly in the coming expansion.
Did the Nerubians capture those adventurers in a elaborate ploy to sell them Audible
0:53 Ok. This laugh might be the best thing ever. Perfect with the animation too !
Thank you so much for this !
Love these we videos, hate to wait around a month to see another one, but I wouldn't have it any other way if the videos come out as great as they do.
Love these, really appreciate all the hard work mate.
I’ve stopped playing wow but still watch your videos. Your work you put in these videos is amazing thanks man.
Seriously, the editing and voiceover of your videos makes them so enjoyable to watch.. I mean, I've watched a lot of lore videos about WoW, but they tend to get dull and boring to listen to. These, however, are still teaching you about the actual lore, but also puts a smile on your face due to your humorous voiceovers and animations! I mean, even your ads are funny, especially the one in "The Warcraft Villains Who Did NOTHING WRONG" - BALLS! xD
Keep up the amazing work!
I was watching this video and when the question on how the maldraxxus structures are identical to the nerubian's structures, at the beginning you said that the nerubians took over the Tol'vir and redecorated the location, and used those structures as there main design. So the real question is the connection between the titan constructs and the shadowlands.
Well, we don’t know for sure how long ago Odyn made the pact with Mueh’zala to peer into the Shadowlands.
It could’ve happened before the Tol’vir were created, and then Odyn could’ve had an influence on the architecture, considering it was supposed to protect the engines and Maldraxxus is very war-oriented.
Then the Nerubians take over the Tol’vir structures, later lose to the Scourge who adapt those structures for their purposes while somewhat returning to the original Maldraxxus designs due to the Lich King’s connection to the Shadowlands. We’ve sort of come full circle.
Thank you for giving my brain the good chemicals.
Watching Platinum's videos always make me want to jump back into WoW.
Yes Platinum, let's build that Wrath hype. I'm ready to board the Wrath hype train, choo choo!
I love that in your new videos you talk a bit about the Shadowlands fanfic for a bit of comedy
Platinum WoW ? More like Platinum How !! How are you this good. Yourself and Captain Grim are absolute gems in the community
your content is always awesome man, I love that you tell a story with a side story of your own, I hope you get to make a lot of other videos : D!
The day Danuser loses his position as the lead writer will be a good day for WoW's lore.
Don't know if any new lead writer could do justice to the lore anymore without butchering it further . If Metzen was still working he'd have his own vision on how he'd expand the lore.
@@ryuno2097 During bfa and now sl many people in the community presented very interesting and logical changes to the lore. Blizzard could just hire those people with better understanding and love for this world than the ones that are in the writing department.
@@ryuno2097 Anything is preferable to this dude, seriously. You can even see the contradiction on this video. The Nerubians inherited the architecture from the Aqir, which in turn took it from the Tol'vir and the Black Empire, and then Danuser comes in and says "Uhhhhh no actually they were inspired by Maldraxxus"
AMEN i will open a wine the day danuser gets fired and his shitty fanfiction dies
Prophetic video
Indeed.
the image of a giant spider writing a book pleases me
Your editing is so amazing it's insane i hope that one day ill also be as good and your tell awesome stories
11:29 Why do bad writers try to be so cryptic and enigmatic when answering these kinds of questions?
I'd have 1000x more respect for someone who just said "I suppose that's a bit of a plothole. We wanted to make them look like the Scourge fortresses, but we never thought about their origins in Nerubian architecture." Because that's clearly what happened.
Pretending you have the answer to every single question doesn't make you look like a master of story craft, it makes you look like a bullshitter.
Danuser was a champion of making shit up on the fly during interviews to cover stupid decisions.
A Most spooky storytime. Pure gold as always. Dam those animation and battles are so cool and lively. Good balance of funny and informative, also platinum has nice voice that fits the vids.
The explanation for the new lore: They wanted to reuse Scourge aesthetics for the death expansion even if it made no sense.
To be honest I just find it more lazy and uninspired. Could the death realm have similar architectural styles as the Scourge? Sure, but make it sort of like a twisted and dark graveyard of ALL architecture ever wrought by mortals or even undead hands, ruins of past and present (and future..) civilizations laying about as monuments to inevitably, reminding us that everything eventual ends.
To be honest the Shadowlands could've and should've been way more trippy and surreal, an odd but unsettling reflection of life as I think befits an afterlife realm.
“I’m the 5th beetle”
Platinum wow: I now consider this lore.
Does anyone know the fanfiction about Krivax? That Nerubian is awesome.
>imagine losing to trolls.
>imagine losing to the worst human faction.
>imagine losing to the scou- oh wait that last one isn't that embarrassing.
I think the reason they have similarities between their architecture and maldraxxus is some powerful nerubian saw the same thing Odyn did, but with that zone. They could easily retcon the tol’vir thing (or I could be wrong and it’s something way different)
If the Nerubians learned how to use the Light, they could stand a chance.
At 0:04 I thought the song Bitter Sweet Symphony was going to start playing 😂
I can't believe how wonderful is the editing Platinum, i can't stop laughing the entire video.
Nerubian's back on the menu, boys! War within hype. War within hype.
This is the only channel I watch that didn't stop making wow content, Thank you.
LK: So you're afraid of spider hmm
also LK: How about enormous undead spiders then?
There is some lore about Anub'Arak in Warcraft 3 TFT when he enters Azjol Nerub with Arthas, the living nerubians say "Look, it's the traitor king!" then Arthas replies "Who, me?" but Anub'Arak clarifies this by saying they were actually referring to himself. Idk, maybe there's something to it we didn't know. also audible trial *audible trial* AUDIBLE TRIAL lol
What Platinum didn`t explain well was that Anub`Arak was slain and ressurected not at the end of the war, but in the midst of it. For the rest of the war he was leading the charge for the scourge, so his people labeled him "Traitor King" as a result.
Platinum manipulator, I am wondering how is it, that I am skipping ads everywhere else, Bellular... etc, but here it gets me so smoothly every time
...I didn't even consider it but we could PROBABLY get an audible for Exploring Kalimdor with Rexxar (Matthew Mercer) and Zekhan narrating it!
Can't wait for the Baldman to react to this.
The cut to Anub’arak dead for several seconds after the Lich King bit, gold! “This did not work…” 😂😂😂😂
Cant wait to see how the War Within expac expands more on the Narubians. One of my favorite races.
Never clicked on a video faster, i’ve always loved the nerubian race more than i love grizzly hills music…
"We also got spiders! Are they Nerubians?...*IIIEEEUUUAAHHUUHH*!?"
😂😂😂
This is the first in-video ad I’ve ever enjoyed. You sir, are a f*cking wizard.
The Nerubians are probably the coolest Aqir, aside from Mantid, who are much more epic.
Mantids are fucking awesome... despite never being able to win over a few hundred pandas for thousands of years (they didn't try hard, but still).
@@alejandronieto4212 the same can be said for the Aqir who couldn't beat the Trolls, nerubians who couldn't beat the valarjar and the Qiraji, who couldn't beat the elves and the dragons.
@@alejandronieto4212 I mean 'never being able to win' would imply they werent literally just using the pandas to kill off their weakest members.
@@lenkagamine4145 I did'nt say they won purely because they got owned, but because they themselves did'nt look like trying to win.
Platinum WoW: *Talks about Magnar Icebreaker*
Me: _"Rip and Tear, Until it is Done..."_
I feel that BfA really missed out on a chance to bring the Nerubians back into the fold as a force to reckon with due to them being technically Aqir and as such minions of the Old Gods. We could have had a N'Zoth invasion site in The Storm Peaks around Ulduar that Old God minions would attack at; with one of the threats faced there being the Nerubians.
Well, like how trolls used to be elves, I'd assume the nerubians also used to be elves, there, now you got your related spiders.
An old fanfic idea of mine would be a patch or full expansion where the remnants of the Qiraji, Nerubians, and Mantid join forces to reclaim their empires and unleash a final swarm.
the way Anub'arak and the livin nerubians talked about it in the frozen throne, it seemed that he actively betrayed them and willingly joined the lich king, at least that was my reading of it
The coming saga expansions are without a doubt going to feature either Nerubians, or Silithid, but of the two, I really hope it to be the Nerubians.