What made Lei Shen so remarkable is how organically they managed to build up his legend during the Pandaria questing, without any pre-established lore to support it. Just pure world building chops.
Well as organic as a story about a mere mortal somehow overpowering a titan watcher with no help or magical mcguffins that is. This doesn't make much sense to me, never has.
@@navilluscire2567 Raden was depressed, he did nothing but cry over the fate of titans for thousands of years. Sure he had the power, but he was incapable of using it due to his state of mind.
@@greatiusiterfector4519 That's about the only thing that makes any sense somewhat (but I still think it's stupid..), Ra'den literally did nothing even though he could have easily killed Lei Shen right then and there.
You know, if Lei Shen won and secured the planet for his Titan creation races, he might’ve actually been able to keep everything working long enough for Azeroth to wake up, therefor fulfilling the goal of the titans themselves and his goal of continuing their legacy.
I'd argue that enslaving the majority of the word would open the door to sabotage, inner rebellions and the spreading of secret cults like the hammer of dawn.
@@richardthepastamancer6619 and you don't think lei shen's armies could not crush a rebellion made by a small bunch of gnomes and murlocs? pretty sure a full gnome-murlock invasion would be an one-mogu sized breakfast of fish sticks and meatballs
@@coomercommander2554 I'm not saying that they could not deal with it. I'm saying that this kind of events could wear down the empire prior to the arrival of the BL. I also think that someone like kil'jaeden could easily exploit a proud and warmongering race like the mogu and made them destroy each other.
Pandaria her hills of gold In dark and mournful times of old Did once a hopeless horror hold When from her sacred veil did spring With storm and flash a monstrous thing His name Lei Shen The Thunder King His thunder boomed across the land And none who dared and fought could stand 'Gainst the iron tyrants hand A palace grand, a walled domain Such mighty works born of his reign Built by slaves, their hearts in chains But seasons change and tyrants die His fury spent in times gone by the thunder slept beneath Kun'lai By Zandalari hands he has been taken By zandalari voice he has awakened Gather heroes sound the drums The Thunder King comes The Thunder King comes.
I love how Platinum is able to get into the lore without ignoring all the ridiculous plot holes written in by Blizzard. Always top notch content my friend 👌🏾
@@Bengeance No, there's always been plenty of things about the old lore that didn't make much sense or was left stupidly vague. (mostly because of plot contrivances..) Let's not give the newer writers ALL the credit for Warcraft's convoluted lore and sadly often not very fleshed out worldbuilding. Not to say I like all the new directions the lore has been heading into, infact I hate most of it but I just wanted to point out that not everthing wrong with Warcraft's lore started with either Metzen not writing anymore about it or the newer writers visions for the stories to be told.
Lei Shen was peak writing for Blizzard IMO. He was a figure who had a lot of impact on the development of the ancient world, and had a hundred stories to tell of how he rose his empire from the rubble, both for better and worse. He sought his people's god, and when he discovered the gods were just sitting back doing nothing, took matters into his own hand and basically said "If the gods won't, then I will! Why shouldn't I?". He was a compelling villain, and his presence could be felt throughout Pandaria, even before he was mentioned by name. The arcitecture, the stories and legends of pandaria, some accounts of his demise are even told differently and vary (Whitepetal Lake was the first account given of his demise, second during his patch was old age), like a true legend's end should diverge. They took a villain who had no prior mention, and implemented him in a way that was compelling and built the world up further. It's so easy to screw up the introduction of an unknown antagonist, but by either luck or the different writing staff at the time, they made him IMO one of WoW's best villains.
Absolutely nothing in shadowlands is cannon as far as I'm concerned. Hell, my generations warcraft story concluded at the end of Legion (except for the sergeras sword in the planet. Our game characters rode off into the sunset with their artifact weapon) and everything that comes after is like deleted scenes from a movie that were too dumb and nonsensical to be in the real story.
Well, at least we were able to play with Arthas through the whole story in WC3 and then becoming the Lich King in Wotlk we have a whole expansion dedicated for him while in game we haven't seen shit from the Thunder King. I don't care what kind of bs story Blizzard had to made up for him to make him look cool or whatever. That dude was introduced in one single patch and was dead and done. Who gives a damn how strong he was or what he did? We never experienced that shit in game or knew about him until the Isle of Thunder patch was released and that's what matters. Even Kael'thas Sunstrider and Lady Vashj have better in game story than the who gives a damn king.
@@KiraDidNoWrong8274 Upset? You've got it all wrong. I just don't see anything impressive about the Thunder Kings story, especially since we haven't seen 1/100 of it in the game, for which we pay to play (or we used to). Why does everyone must be upset, triggered, mad or whatever when he has a different opinion regardless of the topic? Enough with this ''woke'' and progressive mindset ffs.
You mean when said cosmic 'idiot' who could've easily killed Lei Shen did literally nothing to defend himself even though he could. Ra'den LET Lei Shen chain him up and rip out his heart because of plot contrivances. The *"Thunder King"* isn't badass for that, he got his bullsh*t power boost by stealing it from a cosmically forged, two story tall stone dude too depressed to absolutely destroy the mere mortal before him.
@Marcus Jones I realized it when SL came out because there's an in-game book in Ardenweald that has a duck in it and the text specifically states that your character is confused because there is no such thing called a duck on Azeroth. It's not just one of the many earth animals that they haven't bothered putting in critters for, but now an actual world-building detail that there are no ducks
Man all the world building for MoP just is so much clearer than any of the following expansion. It's still wild to me that this was followed by Warlords of Draenor. Pandaria perfectly fits into the greater WoW story without any major story conflicts and the stories built within Pandaria are actually interesting and have clear themes.
I find him to be the coolest part in mop. Probably doesn't say much but what he added to the lore felt so organic and you can believe it with almost no doubts.
Except the part were he apparently overpowered Ra'den, the titan watcher himself to steal his power, that never made sense to me that Lei Shen could do that all by himself when he was a mere mortal. (not even player character's levels of ridiculousness as implied)
@@apacalypsagon3758 I don't think we can really appreciate just how strong a titan keepers can be in the lore, thanks mostly to WOW's game design that turns them into practical pushovers because it is mandated that such legendary, extremely powerful beings must be defeatable by random bands of mortal schmucks that somehow get arbitrarily more powerful by killing wolves or quilboar or whatever random mobs. Lei Shen while no doubt a capable MORTAL warrior in his own right he should absolutely be no match for a titan keeper, he couldn't do it alone. That's what doesn't make sense to me, Ra'den would have to literal do absolutely nothing to defend himself for Lei Shen to have chained him up and ripping out his heart and even then do you really think the then mortal Lei Shen could even leave strach on the titan keeper's 'skin'? Come to think of it how did Lei Shen even move Ra'den into his chains without help, I'd imagine a two or three story tall titan keeper made of stone would be really, REALLY heavy even for a mogu to lift?
Could we imagine that Lei Shen, as a great strategist, asked for a one on one duel knowing he would face Xuen alone, because he also knew that he wouldn't be able to fight the 4 pandaren gods be himself?
mists of pandaria's lore was honestly great, the myth and story around it had a lot of depth, the architecture was gorgeous, and overall it felt like a fun adventure I just wanted to spend time in exploring every detail
That's what I liked alot about the expansion the most, atleast at the beginning it was more about exploring and learning about the new lands and their peoples! Kinda wished it had stayed that way, no world ending threats, no big bads, no forced plot contrivances, just a WORLD of warcraft to be immersed in.
@@andrewrenshaw2741 unpopular opinion but i still agree. Exept for...the social aspect that reached Rock bottom at this Point. People didnt Chat with one another one Bit unless it was about insults. Without a guild, you had a terrible experience imo, from a Casual standpoint. Now obviously If you Raider weekly, your View May be Very diffrent from Mine. I did casually PvP and it felt great. Wow was too much of a commitment for me Back then so did nothing Else.
@@__-fi6xg I had a guild full of co-workers and friends at the time. We raided together thru Cataclysm until I wound up quitting right before SoO. I came back a bit for solo play and timeless isles but honestly everything after that was garbage. Suramar in Legion and the starting zones in BFA were the last good things in WoW.
It touched me that you named Lei Shen (presumably the pinyin of 雷神，which literally means "thunder god" in Chinese) the greatest king in WoW lore, since Lei Shen is obviously the WoW analogue of the Chinese First Emperor. There are many obvious parallels, including unifying China after a long period of internal strife (the real historical version is called 战国时代 or the Warring States Period, described more colloquially as 百年炼狱 or "a hundred years of hell"), building a Great Wall against indomitable barbarians, and unifying the language, units of measurement, and currency, as well as purging literates from the other tribes. Like Lei Shen the real life First Emperor was an extremely brutal ruler, and also obsessed with eternal life. Despite these the First Emperor is still renowned as perhaps the most important ruler in Chinese history.
@@josejuanandrade4439 To be fair Lei Shen's rise to power is just as contrived as Zoval's attempt at backstory, it's just that his (Shen's) has atleast SOME amount of context within the setting and even then I don't remember much hints at the Thunder King's involvement in the already established lore surrounding warcraft, WOW and the previous expansions.
@@navilluscire2567 Correct. LeiShen and the mogu race were only created during MoP development, they did not exist before that, just like the Jailer. In the Jailer case, they tied him to past events, making him be the origin of, well pretty much everything... HOWEVER, besides that, his motivations, or the logic of his actions have NEVER been explained. Lei Shen backstory is just way better. We know why he pursued power, why he became the thunder king, what he wanted to accomplish. It was all clear and easy to understand... We don't know why Zoval is evil... He was created by the First Ones just like the Primus, the Archon or the Winter Queen... but they ain't evil... Zoval had a big role in the Shadowlands, he was the arbiter... So why did he rebel against the First Ones? What made him be unhappy with his role? What is exactly that he is trying to accomplish? And how exactly is he trying to do that? We know fucking zero... At first it seemed they were gonna give the twist that he wasn't the bad guy, going by the fact that he and Sylvanas were always speaking of "undoing the flawed design of the first ones" of how unfair was the setting of the cosmos, of how the world we live in is a prission etc etc etc.. but then we see he just want to make everybody serve him... he just want to rebuild the universe (or something like that) so HE can be the ruler of everything... So he realy became a cartoon villain of the likes of M Bison in the live action movie (Tomorrow... the world!!!) I have the feeling we gonna end the expansion and we will never know why the fuck did he do all the things he did, nor what he realy wanted to accomplish.
@@josejuanandrade4439 "Aight, let's add some skulls n sh!t to his armor 'n' stuff." "UHH! WHAT ELSE?!" "Well, skulls just the underlining. On top of these skulls, we gotta pull up some more skulls." "SHEIIIT ... OMEGA NOICE!"
@@josejuanandrade4439 Well, now we know why Zovaal did what he did... but it's still a really vague and stupid reason. He pretty much wanted everyone to serve him... so he could protect reallity from some GREATER THREAT, because, in his words, "a universe divided cannot survive what is to come". My guess is that the greater evil he's hinting to is the Void Lords, and that whatever made him decide to relinquish his role as the arbiter was the soul of a god or mortal who had been corrupted by the void lords a long time ago.
8:10 --- Seriously, I totally agree with Lei Shen here -.- Ra Den is a sorry excuse for a demi-god... But then again... if you take a look at the other keepers... they are all sorry excuses for demi gods... No wonder Azeroth is screwed if she relys of these guys to keep her safe. And we know how well they did after all...
Now now Nature and the wild gods/loas did most of the heavy lifting in protecting aseroth before the players arrived. Also didn't Ra Den give up until when he realized he was the only titan keeper basically keeping the system alive as he was the last one doing his job, one or the other probably wouldn't have broken him but not only was the pantheon of order death but the titan keepers were either killed, left or betrayed them.
@@SuperGamefreak18 Point taken on the Wold Gods - though they were no united front or anything. They were just there, doing their own thing. And Ra Den was depressed because he knew that their makers, the Pantheon, had been destroyed by Sargeras (or something - and didnt bother to tell anyone...) - that was before Loken's betrayal.
Dear Santa Plat, This holiday season I humbly ask for a history video on Ebyssian Ebonhorn and the High Mountain Tauren, or at the very least Gazlowe, the goblin that build the horde.
Ok, i know im repeating myself in every of @Platinum Wow video. BUT omg.. i so fcking adore his way of creating videos. So funny, incredibly and profesionally made.
World of Warcraft's Lore and Storytelling is kind of strange it's very poor in a lot of areas but it's still very interesting and epic because most of it is based on the Lore written by really great writers who wrote the first Warcraft books, that's why Warcraft's story is just on another level compared to World of Warcraft.
The books are mostly Well written and intressting. The Game Just never bothered to Show how great it actually is. Still, as Reader...i found bc to be quite cool, seeing everything you have read Up so much about but to See the Locations felt good.
What I always find weird about WoW lore, at least since they retconned the titans anyway, is that everyone is fighting for their eventual doomsday. The only difference is will it be a cause for "good" when a pure titan wakes and morphs the planet into their body which would kill everyone or "evil" where a corrupted titan wakes up and morph the planet into their body which would still kill everyone only they would then go on to destroy the universe
The best part of WoW lore is the endless amount of soldiers in a world without complex production and where we bare see normal folk just producing stuff to this endless army to every race in WoW
Honestly what's even the point of having armies to fight wars when overpowered characters are running around, like the Thunder King Lei Shen could've just soloed the entire zandalari troll empire and the Tol'vir because he was that ridiculously overpowered. Why send thousands of soldiers to die when characters like Jaina Proudmoore or Meadiv exist who can oneshot whole armies with flicks of their wrists? Why even have the major factions, the Horde or Alliance, respectively team up to fight some BIGGER foe when it seems all it takes to stop the third party wannabe villain of the year (and a half..) is just a bunch of random overpowered player characters? Like seriously what's the point?
@@navilluscire2567 Lorewise, it was ordinary citizens of Azeroth ( us ) who rose up and fell the likes of an Elemental Lord, a Lich and even a freaking Old God. ;)
@@georgestaykov5358 That's my point, it seems like all it takes to stop a world threatening/ending BIG bad is just a bunch of random schmucks who are super powerful for unspecified reasons, not the combined armies of state actors or military logistics. Basically the Horde and Alliance teaming up feels redundant and unnecessary in defeating such awsomely powerful third party villains, which seems counterintuitive to the whole message of *"...we must ALL work together or else die"!*
@@navilluscire2567 actually really good point. an army vs medivh just helps medivh since everyone is gathered in one place. would be cool as fuck to see a fantasy universe go in to like anti-magic guerilla warfare
@@DrinkingMud its Tauri Wow, However they (litterally 2 days ago) teamed up with Atlantiss to make ANOTHER fresh pandaria server, tauri is known for its flawless scripting, but with tauri AND atlantiss, i think it will be better. Although i’ve been on tauri for 2 years and am not leaving.
The trailer for The Thunder King was one of the best moments for me for wow. And Lorewalker Cho quote during it still gives me chills today. ~Pandaria, her hills of gold In dark and mournful times of old Did once a hopeless horror hold When from her sacred veil did spring With storm and flash, a monstrous thing His name Lei Shen, the Thunder King His thunder boomed across the land And none who dared and fought could stand Against the iron tyrant’s hand A palace grand, a walled domain Such mighty works born of his reign Built by slaves, their hearts in chains But seasons change and tyrants die His fury spent in times gone by The thunder slept beneath Kun-Lai By Zandalari hands he has been taken By Zandalari voice he has awakened Gather heroes, sound the drums The Thunder King comes The Thunder King comes~
For some reason the thing that always stuck in me about Lei Shen isnt himself, its that scenario where you solo one of his big rock dude door guards and when he gets low hp he says, "To strike me is to strike His majesty. He will not suffer this insult!" I always liked that kind of fanatical loyalty to his God-King-Emperor.
Yes Arthas need his army to win against lei shen and he is not idiot in war probably Arthas will overwhelm him with scourge and kill kim but 1v1 its not gonna be good.
I know about this, but actually find this hard to believe. The Mogu are made from Stone surely that gives them a edge over a Undead Army, especially is Leo Shin uses the \engine of Nalak'sha.
@@DisastrousIntentionally he hold back as much as his last brainpower could while beeing corrupted. It is said that the scourge can basically easy overrun whole azeroth.. so it must be insanely huge.
If I recall Lei Shen is the most powerful mortal to ever lived on Azeroth, considering he had the power of a titan keeper and he was equally or more powerful then the celestials, which are the pandaren wild gods. The reason he died is because of the machine of origination killed him, and we fought him when he was greatly weakened, and he gave us a hard time.
8:57 come to think about it...when did Lei Shen get any followers between his self exile and finding Ra'den? It seems like it's implied by his story that he traveled alone, since his entire family had been slain and their servants probably all made to serve the usurper who killed his father. Did Shen just wander around the war torn country were hundreds of petty warlords were dunking it out for dominance and managed to find some gullible mogu to accompany him despite not being much of an anything up until his ascension to godhood? *Did he promise them cake or tea!?* I dunno, it seems strange he even survived as long as he did in such unstable times without much protection or magic mcguffins.
In the "Rumbles of Thunder" lore achievement a readable item describes Lei Shen as having followers, but only a handful of the bravest and most loyal accompanied him to the Isle of Thunder.
If i remember correctly, there was mentioned that some of the most loyal followers of his family followed him into exile. Which were only a handful, so no one bothered.
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My favourite part of Lei Shen's lore is that he got _so_ decadent that, despite the Mogu still being genderless rockmen, he sculpted a pair of _women_ in imitation of the Pandaren and other Curse of Flesh races, just so he'd have women _to_ rule.
I said this in the Klaxxi video but MoP has the BEST Standalone lore and storytelling of any expac. Period. Lei Shen is such a cool character, and ToT is one of blizz best raids.
Imagine just a moment if the Thunder King would have manage to gain control of the forge. No more curse of flesh, no more old gods. No scourge. No Sylvanas and NO SHADOWLANDS ! #BringBackDaddyThunderKing #ThunderKingDidNothingWrong
18:11 I would also like to mention that mogu anima and Shadowlands anima not being connected is contradicted in-game with the Glory of the Nathrian Raider achievement. For the Lady Inerva Darkvein fight, you feed a mogu construct pet from the Throne of Thunder anima from Castle Nathria to empower it and summon an add, which wouldn't work if the two weren't connected.
The thing is, they said related, not the same. They shouldn't have had to say they're not the same, since being connected to something inherently means you are not the same exact thing as said something! Blizzard having to say that they're not the same stems from the same problem as the misconception that all Mesozoic animals are dinosaurs: humans being idiots, which is only the niche for those with a death wish.
When MoP first came out i remember thinking how lame Lei Shen was. "So we fought gods and demon lords and monsters from beyond the Void, and now some random ancient kings appears out from nowhere acting as if he's hot stuff" i thought. But with benefit of hindsight i kinda see how cool and interesting fighting him was. It was basically a battle between the creations of the Titans to see who will become the true successor of their legacy.
That's kind of what happens when players have fought and won against literal demigods and demon lords, nothing else matters anymore, the world becomes small and flimsy, a mere backdrop for the next 'epic' but repetitive raid on the next eldritch wannabe that has this master plan thousands of years in the making that...gets unraveled in like a year by some random mortal schmucks that get stupidly more and more powerful because of arbitrary reasons.
@@SAINTPABLO94 What systems? In game mechanics? Things such as *"exp"* and *"levels"* doesn't exist lorewise. How are a bunch of mortals able to become powerful enough to fight literal gods in a ridiculously short period of time? What's the power system behind it?
@@navilluscire2567 It is because of the thousands of systems Blizzard implemented. We get stronger from expansion to expansion. All the “power” and artifacts, legendaries etc we have now dont feel special anymore.
@@SAINTPABLO94 Exactly...yet that won't stop more and more 'legendary' stuff from being heaped on the player characters because the story demands escalation and epic clashes with ever more abstract, cosmic entities.
Nice topic for a vid my man. The Thunder Chad King story is one of my favorite ones, eventho im not a big pandaria fan. it actually made the mogu so much more interesting in my eyes. i love it. WOW is in a dire state, but the lore is all we've got to feed our nostalgia. I'd like you to focus mostly on older lore aswell (everything pandaria and before) and you are doing great job with it. Keep it up, much love
To be fair we don't know much about King Terenas Manethill II, he's a decent king compare to other kings of the Alliance, his kingdom held out against the Horde AND the Scourge for a while without the aids of magic or giant fricking walls and only fell when Arthas murdered him, effectively getting rid of the one and only unifying figure that could rally any effective ressitance against the Scourge, had he survived the Fall of Lordaeron, we would have probably became the High King of the Alliance as others would count on his experience and level headedness compared to the younger and more aggressive Varian Not to mention that he earned Uther's respect, the Lightbringer, not the Shadowlander
Jesus, you are a great story teller plus a comedy genius in my opinion. I laughed every single time when I saw Lei Shen shaking his head like a mad man he was.
You have villians like this, the litch king, Guldan, Sargeras, and now you have Zo' fucking' bald Wouldnt be surprised if all of this was apart of his plan too
LeiShen *ponders the non-existence of ducks* Me: What? That is preposterous. Surely there is some ducks in WoW. *googles* ..... I mean surely *googles some more* .... What. *googles a bit more* WHAT!? *GOOGLES* SERIOUSLY!?
This was a GREAT way to start my morning. I love everything you put out on this channel. Make sure your parents know how great a job they did because you're amazing!
What I love about Warcraft lore is how anybody and anyone can be the strongest most badass and the most frail and weak without breaking the story... Sure the trolls were once the greatest empire on the planet who beat the shit out of the old gods....but these days..lol... Also sure the tol'vir were defeated and enslaved by both C'thun and Ner'zhul...but once upon a time they killed lie shen
It's sad that he was actively trying to complete Radens job since Raden just decided to have big depression compared to the other keerpers and stop without letting someone else take over (that being said, the "titans are dead doom gloom" was a weird walkback in hindsight)
Had Lei Shen won, there would have been no Sundering... He would have made the Legion go into hiding on Argus, would have single handedly beaten each old god in a 1v1 duel... Man... The world of what could have been.
he means that in a thunder storm it's usually the storm that comes first and then the lightning afterwards. Therefore Thunder quaking the skies before the lightning strikes
Wasn't origionally a fan of the pandaren aesthetics and I still wish they hadn't been made playable, but the MOP lore is some of if not the best written lore WoW got and proved that they COULD write new and origional villains that weren't just desperately riding on old WC3 threads. Shame that potential didn't really live beyond MOP.
Pandaria, her hills of gold In dark and mournful times of old Did once a hopeless horror hold When from her sacred veil did spring With storm and flash, a monstrous thing His name Lei-Shen, the Thunder King His thunder boomed across the land And none who dared and fought could stand Against the iron tyrant’s hand A palace grand, a walled domain Such mighty works born of his reign Built by slaves, their hearts in chains But seasons change and tyrants die His fury spent in times gone by The thunder slept beneath Kun Lai By Zandalari hands he has been taken By Zandalari voice he has awakened Gather heroes, sound the drums The Thunder King comes The Thunder King comes
Ohh man.. ToT 10-man heroic... good old times. Give back please! I wish they would make Cata & MoP Classic but add all current features like the updated transmog system etc. to the game aswell as all unreleased and cut out content frm Cata/MoP. Probably the best state WoW would be ever at.
MoP had some amazing braids with great atmosphere, ToT in particular. I still listen to the Moguzheung soundtrack from time to time, takes me right back.
15:38 Seriously why didn't the August Celestials just team up and beat the crap out of Lei Shen!? They should've been more than enough powerful together to utterly destroy the arrogant Thunder King!
I hate it when Blizzard builds such a strong lore for a character e.g. "This guy literally beats gods up" and then proceeds to just let like a random bunch of adventurers kick the shit out of them and own them easily.
Random mobs* People dont understand 2 things 1: Every soldier of the legion is a k¡||ing machine 2: In Legion our character was broken asf, we are like aewin or similar in power
In the current climate of everything at Blizzard constantly pushing the limits of how bad things can get, Platinum's videos of Warcraft lore seem to be the only good thing about the game. Keep 'em going, buddy! Remind us of better days...
I'd say that Lei Shen had more raw power than Azshara, and would probably defeat her in combat (unless N'zoth intervened). Azshara may be smarter and more manipulative than him though. Also Lei Shen was second to no one in his chain of command, wheras Azshara still answered to N'zoth, even if she did plan to betray him.
Have no idea what you’re talking about but you have pretty good editing and a good sounding voice, good job for someone I discovered in the comments section of a Drew Golden video.
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Good job on the video, Lei-Shen is a bad ass!
Wauw, dat is geweldig!
Yo, when is Rise of the Horde Vol. 2 coming out man? been looking forward to it for ages by now. get to work slacker
@Platinum WoW what was the music you used for the ad
What made Lei Shen so remarkable is how organically they managed to build up his legend during the Pandaria questing, without any pre-established lore to support it. Just pure world building chops.
Man sad that it showed they can pull of a brand new villain......*looks at zovaal*
Well as organic as a story about a mere mortal somehow overpowering a titan watcher with no help or magical mcguffins that is. This doesn't make much sense to me, never has.
@@navilluscire2567 Raden was depressed, he did nothing but cry over the fate of titans for thousands of years.
Sure he had the power, but he was incapable of using it due to his state of mind.
@@navilluscire2567 granted he probably just let it happen
@@greatiusiterfector4519
That's about the only thing that makes any sense somewhat (but I still think it's stupid..), Ra'den literally did nothing even though he could have easily killed Lei Shen right then and there.
"All I had sought was to finish the work of the gods" Damn I don't think anyone in wow has gone with last words leaving such an impact.
The Kratos of WoW :D
"The Hunter... is nothing... without the hunt." Illidan Stormrage, when taken down in the Black Temple raid
You know, if Lei Shen won and secured the planet for his Titan creation races, he might’ve actually been able to keep everything working long enough for Azeroth to wake up, therefor fulfilling the goal of the titans themselves and his goal of continuing their legacy.
The best villains tend to be the ones with honestly good and understandable intentions
I'd argue that enslaving the majority of the word would open the door to sabotage, inner rebellions and the spreading of secret cults like the hammer of dawn.
@@richardthepastamancer6619 and you don't think lei shen's armies could not crush a rebellion made by a small bunch of gnomes and murlocs? pretty sure a full gnome-murlock invasion would be an one-mogu sized breakfast of fish sticks and meatballs
@@coomercommander2554 I'm not saying that they could not deal with it. I'm saying that this kind of events could wear down the empire prior to the arrival of the BL. I also think that someone like kil'jaeden could easily exploit a proud and warmongering race like the mogu and made them destroy each other.
Would it justify having to use widespread slavery of other races? 🤔
Pandaria her hills of gold
In dark and mournful times of old
Did once a hopeless horror hold
When from her sacred veil did spring
With storm and flash a monstrous thing
His name Lei Shen The Thunder King
His thunder boomed across the land
And none who dared and fought could stand
'Gainst the iron tyrants hand
A palace grand, a walled domain
Such mighty works born of his reign
Built by slaves, their hearts in chains
But seasons change and tyrants die
His fury spent in times gone by
the thunder slept beneath Kun'lai
By Zandalari hands he has been taken
By zandalari voice he has awakened
Gather heroes sound the drums
The Thunder King comes
The Thunder King comes.
*Dova'khin dova'khin nalok zin los va li* -
ops nvm wrong song
This video is incomplete without this poem
@@jdsaravaiya6468 my thoughts exactly
"Retrieve da remains, bruddas"
Wandering Minstrel ? Is that you ?
I love how Platinum is able to get into the lore without ignoring all the ridiculous plot holes written in by Blizzard. Always top notch content my friend 👌🏾
You mean the new Warcraft plot holes.
Still hurts to see how much of it the new Blizz teams just forgets about with each expansion.
@@Bengeance
No, there's always been plenty of things about the old lore that didn't make much sense or was left stupidly vague. (mostly because of plot contrivances..) Let's not give the newer writers ALL the credit for Warcraft's convoluted lore and sadly often not very fleshed out worldbuilding. Not to say I like all the new directions the lore has been heading into, infact I hate most of it but I just wanted to point out that not everthing wrong with Warcraft's lore started with either Metzen not writing anymore about it or the newer writers visions for the stories to be told.
even mop was almost 10 years ago now
@@Ash-bd6jz wait how.... *looks at the date* ... damn man
Lei Shen was peak writing for Blizzard IMO. He was a figure who had a lot of impact on the development of the ancient world, and had a hundred stories to tell of how he rose his empire from the rubble, both for better and worse. He sought his people's god, and when he discovered the gods were just sitting back doing nothing, took matters into his own hand and basically said "If the gods won't, then I will! Why shouldn't I?". He was a compelling villain, and his presence could be felt throughout Pandaria, even before he was mentioned by name. The arcitecture, the stories and legends of pandaria, some accounts of his demise are even told differently and vary (Whitepetal Lake was the first account given of his demise, second during his patch was old age), like a true legend's end should diverge.
They took a villain who had no prior mention, and implemented him in a way that was compelling and built the world up further. It's so easy to screw up the introduction of an unknown antagonist, but by either luck or the different writing staff at the time, they made him IMO one of WoW's best villains.
He is basically reference to the first emperor of China.
Different writing staff
@@Klaital1 Nah, it was pretty obvious pandas were chinese and mogu were japanese
@@sjakierulez Personally I've always seen the mogu as Mongolians though
@@bohoh123 Mogu are heavily borrowed from mongolians. Look up the Yuan Empire.
The Virgin Lich king: Is actually a pawn of some stupid cosmic idiot
The Chad Thunder king: Dickslaps cosmic idiot into being his pawn.
Absolutely nothing in shadowlands is cannon as far as I'm concerned.
Hell, my generations warcraft story concluded at the end of Legion (except for the sergeras sword in the planet. Our game characters rode off into the sunset with their artifact weapon) and everything that comes after is like deleted scenes from a movie that were too dumb and nonsensical to be in the real story.
Well, at least we were able to play with Arthas through the whole story in WC3 and then becoming the Lich King in Wotlk we have a whole expansion dedicated for him while in game we haven't seen shit from the Thunder King. I don't care what kind of bs story Blizzard had to made up for him to make him look cool or whatever. That dude was introduced in one single patch and was dead and done. Who gives a damn how strong he was or what he did? We never experienced that shit in game or knew about him until the Isle of Thunder patch was released and that's what matters. Even Kael'thas Sunstrider and Lady Vashj have better in game story than the who gives a damn king.
@@Foxtrot-jr5qu Jesus Christ bruh why are you so damn upset over a meme in the comments, calm down
@@KiraDidNoWrong8274 Upset? You've got it all wrong. I just don't see anything impressive about the Thunder Kings story, especially since we haven't seen 1/100 of it in the game, for which we pay to play (or we used to). Why does everyone must be upset, triggered, mad or whatever when he has a different opinion regardless of the topic? Enough with this ''woke'' and progressive mindset ffs.
You mean when said cosmic 'idiot' who could've easily killed Lei Shen did literally nothing to defend himself even though he could. Ra'den LET Lei Shen chain him up and rip out his heart because of plot contrivances. The *"Thunder King"* isn't badass for that, he got his bullsh*t power boost by stealing it from a cosmically forged, two story tall stone dude too depressed to absolutely destroy the mere mortal before him.
18:53
Plat truly is a friend of the Grummles.
I actually stopped and went "hold up" when you mentioned there being no ducks because I never realized it until right this second.
Because you forgot about the great empire of the ... ... CHICKENS! They be dam if they going to let the ducks get any glory.
@@Damsels2001 as if chickens could hold a candle to duck mafia
@Marcus Jones I realized it when SL came out because there's an in-game book in Ardenweald that has a duck in it and the text specifically states that your character is confused because there is no such thing called a duck on Azeroth. It's not just one of the many earth animals that they haven't bothered putting in critters for, but now an actual world-building detail that there are no ducks
@@Wyrmshield Where is this book? I need to see this.
Well well well, how the turns have tabled with the Dragon Isles
Man all the world building for MoP just is so much clearer than any of the following expansion. It's still wild to me that this was followed by Warlords of Draenor. Pandaria perfectly fits into the greater WoW story without any major story conflicts and the stories built within Pandaria are actually interesting and have clear themes.
WoD could be a great story, if they basically diddnt cutted half of its content and stuff.
I find him to be the coolest part in mop. Probably doesn't say much but what he added to the lore felt so organic and you can believe it with almost no doubts.
ToT was an awesome tier.
Except the part were he apparently overpowered Ra'den, the titan watcher himself to steal his power, that never made sense to me that Lei Shen could do that all by himself when he was a mere mortal. (not even player character's levels of ridiculousness as implied)
@@navilluscire2567 he did just give up I don't think he'd put much of a fight even for a titan keeper
@@apacalypsagon3758
I don't think we can really appreciate just how strong a titan keepers can be in the lore, thanks mostly to WOW's game design that turns them into practical pushovers because it is mandated that such legendary, extremely powerful beings must be defeatable by random bands of mortal schmucks that somehow get arbitrarily more powerful by killing wolves or quilboar or whatever random mobs. Lei Shen while no doubt a capable MORTAL warrior in his own right he should absolutely be no match for a titan keeper, he couldn't do it alone. That's what doesn't make sense to me, Ra'den would have to literal do absolutely nothing to defend himself for Lei Shen to have chained him up and ripping out his heart and even then do you really think the then mortal Lei Shen could even leave strach on the titan keeper's 'skin'? Come to think of it how did Lei Shen even move Ra'den into his chains without help, I'd imagine a two or three story tall titan keeper made of stone would be really, REALLY heavy even for a mogu to lift?
Mop overall was a fun expansion, the thunder king and isle of thunder was just more of the same good writing and game design.
18:52 just hit me with nostalgia
Absolutely loved that luckydoo rap reference. Man it has been years since I heard that.
Going to rewatch it after this
It's been 9 years already man...
I miss times when Crendor was doing content like that
Great years of 2012 from Crendor.
Lei shen: what is my purpose?
Ra: you bring butter
Lei shen: *oh God*
18:54 WHAT YOUR LUCKY DO?
Ah what a throwback
Could we imagine that Lei Shen, as a great strategist, asked for a one on one duel knowing he would face Xuen alone, because he also knew that he wouldn't be able to fight the 4 pandaren gods be himself?
mists of pandaria's lore was honestly great, the myth and story around it had a lot of depth, the architecture was gorgeous, and overall it felt like a fun adventure I just wanted to spend time in exploring every detail
That's what I liked alot about the expansion the most, atleast at the beginning it was more about exploring and learning about the new lands and their peoples! Kinda wished it had stayed that way, no world ending threats, no big bads, no forced plot contrivances, just a WORLD of warcraft to be immersed in.
After shadowlands ...every Expansion Looks good.
Honestly. Mists was the best expansion ever.
@@andrewrenshaw2741 unpopular opinion but i still agree. Exept for...the social aspect that reached Rock bottom at this Point. People didnt Chat with one another one Bit unless it was about insults. Without a guild, you had a terrible experience imo, from a Casual standpoint. Now obviously If you Raider weekly, your View May be Very diffrent from Mine.
I did casually PvP and it felt great. Wow was too much of a commitment for me Back then so did nothing Else.
@@__-fi6xg I had a guild full of co-workers and friends at the time. We raided together thru Cataclysm until I wound up quitting right before SoO. I came back a bit for solo play and timeless isles but honestly everything after that was garbage. Suramar in Legion and the starting zones in BFA were the last good things in WoW.
It touched me that you named Lei Shen (presumably the pinyin of 雷神，which literally means "thunder god" in Chinese) the greatest king in WoW lore, since Lei Shen is obviously the WoW analogue of the Chinese First Emperor. There are many obvious parallels, including unifying China after a long period of internal strife (the real historical version is called 战国时代 or the Warring States Period, described more colloquially as 百年炼狱 or "a hundred years of hell"), building a Great Wall against indomitable barbarians, and unifying the language, units of measurement, and currency, as well as purging literates from the other tribes. Like Lei Shen the real life First Emperor was an extremely brutal ruler, and also obsessed with eternal life. Despite these the First Emperor is still renowned as perhaps the most important ruler in Chinese history.
Imagine giving your villain a story
Right? Who needs that? All you gotta do is say the new villain is super duper powerful, and make him look evil.
@@josejuanandrade4439
To be fair Lei Shen's rise to power is just as contrived as Zoval's attempt at backstory, it's just that his (Shen's) has atleast SOME amount of context within the setting and even then I don't remember much hints at the Thunder King's involvement in the already established lore surrounding warcraft, WOW and the previous expansions.
@@navilluscire2567 Correct. LeiShen and the mogu race were only created during MoP development, they did not exist before that, just like the Jailer.
In the Jailer case, they tied him to past events, making him be the origin of, well pretty much everything... HOWEVER, besides that, his motivations, or the logic of his actions have NEVER been explained.
Lei Shen backstory is just way better. We know why he pursued power, why he became the thunder king, what he wanted to accomplish. It was all clear and easy to understand... We don't know why Zoval is evil... He was created by the First Ones just like the Primus, the Archon or the Winter Queen... but they ain't evil... Zoval had a big role in the Shadowlands, he was the arbiter... So why did he rebel against the First Ones? What made him be unhappy with his role? What is exactly that he is trying to accomplish? And how exactly is he trying to do that? We know fucking zero...
At first it seemed they were gonna give the twist that he wasn't the bad guy, going by the fact that he and Sylvanas were always speaking of "undoing the flawed design of the first ones" of how unfair was the setting of the cosmos, of how the world we live in is a prission etc etc etc.. but then we see he just want to make everybody serve him... he just want to rebuild the universe (or something like that) so HE can be the ruler of everything... So he realy became a cartoon villain of the likes of M Bison in the live action movie (Tomorrow... the world!!!)
I have the feeling we gonna end the expansion and we will never know why the fuck did he do all the things he did, nor what he realy wanted to accomplish.
@@josejuanandrade4439 "Aight, let's add some skulls n sh!t to his armor 'n' stuff." "UHH! WHAT ELSE?!" "Well, skulls just the underlining. On top of these skulls, we gotta pull up some more skulls." "SHEIIIT ... OMEGA NOICE!"
@@josejuanandrade4439 Well, now we know why Zovaal did what he did... but it's still a really vague and stupid reason. He pretty much wanted everyone to serve him... so he could protect reallity from some GREATER THREAT, because, in his words, "a universe divided cannot survive what is to come". My guess is that the greater evil he's hinting to is the Void Lords, and that whatever made him decide to relinquish his role as the arbiter was the soul of a god or mortal who had been corrupted by the void lords a long time ago.
8:10 --- Seriously, I totally agree with Lei Shen here -.- Ra Den is a sorry excuse for a demi-god... But then again... if you take a look at the other keepers... they are all sorry excuses for demi gods... No wonder Azeroth is screwed if she relys of these guys to keep her safe. And we know how well they did after all...
Chad Thunder King is Azeroth’s real man
And it’s the job of the mortal’s to pick up the titan keeper’s slack.
@@beastmaster0934 True... I think we should demand a raise...
Now now Nature and the wild gods/loas did most of the heavy lifting in protecting aseroth before the players arrived. Also didn't Ra Den give up until when he realized he was the only titan keeper basically keeping the system alive as he was the last one doing his job, one or the other probably wouldn't have broken him but not only was the pantheon of order death but the titan keepers were either killed, left or betrayed them.
@@SuperGamefreak18 Point taken on the Wold Gods - though they were no united front or anything. They were just there, doing their own thing. And Ra Den was depressed because he knew that their makers, the Pantheon, had been destroyed by Sargeras (or something - and didnt bother to tell anyone...) - that was before Loken's betrayal.
Imagine if Zoval's(Jailer) story got Thunder King treatment. Thats how low wow lore had fallen. Man I love Shens story. I love Thunder Isle.
MOMMM I WANT LEI SHEN
Son, we have Lei Shen at home.
The Lei Shen at home: Zoval.
@@naironluiz8126 sadge
given the thunder king introduced the concept of anima to the game
Dear Santa Plat,
This holiday season I humbly ask for a history video on Ebyssian Ebonhorn and the High Mountain Tauren, or at the very least Gazlowe, the goblin that build the horde.
Ok, i know im repeating myself in every of @Platinum Wow video. BUT omg.. i so fcking adore his way of creating videos. So funny, incredibly and profesionally made.
World of Warcraft's Lore and Storytelling is kind of strange
it's very poor in a lot of areas but it's still very interesting and epic because most of it is based on the Lore written by really great writers who wrote the first Warcraft books, that's why Warcraft's story is just on another level compared to World of Warcraft.
The books are mostly Well written and intressting. The Game Just never bothered to Show how great it actually is. Still, as Reader...i found bc to be quite cool, seeing everything you have read Up so much about but to See the Locations felt good.
What I always find weird about WoW lore, at least since they retconned the titans anyway, is that everyone is fighting for their eventual doomsday. The only difference is will it be a cause for "good" when a pure titan wakes and morphs the planet into their body which would kill everyone or "evil" where a corrupted titan wakes up and morph the planet into their body which would still kill everyone only they would then go on to destroy the universe
@@archangeltyrael3369 I don't think Azeroth is waking up in a long time, if ever.
@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 hello I'm from the future and it looks like Azeroth has started to stirr
The best part of WoW lore is the endless amount of soldiers in a world without complex production and where we bare see normal folk just producing stuff to this endless army to every race in WoW
Honestly what's even the point of having armies to fight wars when overpowered characters are running around, like the Thunder King Lei Shen could've just soloed the entire zandalari troll empire and the Tol'vir because he was that ridiculously overpowered. Why send thousands of soldiers to die when characters like Jaina Proudmoore or Meadiv exist who can oneshot whole armies with flicks of their wrists? Why even have the major factions, the Horde or Alliance, respectively team up to fight some BIGGER foe when it seems all it takes to stop the third party wannabe villain of the year (and a half..) is just a bunch of random overpowered player characters? Like seriously what's the point?
@@navilluscire2567 Lorewise, it was ordinary citizens of Azeroth ( us ) who rose up and fell the likes of an Elemental Lord, a Lich and even a freaking Old God. ;)
@@georgestaykov5358
That's my point, it seems like all it takes to stop a world threatening/ending BIG bad is just a bunch of random schmucks who are super powerful for unspecified reasons, not the combined armies of state actors or military logistics. Basically the Horde and Alliance teaming up feels redundant and unnecessary in defeating such awsomely powerful third party villains, which seems counterintuitive to the whole message of *"...we must ALL work together or else die"!*
@@navilluscire2567 actually really good point. an army vs medivh just helps medivh since everyone is gathered in one place. would be cool as fuck to see a fantasy universe go in to like anti-magic guerilla warfare
@@waddupdawgness
That does sound cool. Rare in history has guerilla warfare or aught similar been used offensively to conquer territory!
For someone who makes his home in a pandaria private server, this hits me deep.
Which server? I've been tempted to go play MoP again for a while now, any good?
@@DrinkingMud its Tauri Wow,
However they (litterally 2 days ago) teamed up with Atlantiss to make ANOTHER fresh pandaria server, tauri is known for its flawless scripting, but with tauri AND atlantiss, i think it will be better. Although i’ve been on tauri for 2 years and am not leaving.
The titans always create insane stuff and totally screw everything up. If Azeroth somehow survives and actually hatches, she will be P I S S E D.
Azeroth: What was the reason of that nuke being made?
XDDD
The trailer for The Thunder King was one of the best moments for me for wow. And Lorewalker Cho quote during it still gives me chills today.
~Pandaria, her hills of gold
In dark and mournful times of old
Did once a hopeless horror hold
When from her sacred veil did spring
With storm and flash, a monstrous thing
His name Lei Shen, the Thunder King
His thunder boomed across the land
And none who dared and fought could stand
Against the iron tyrant’s hand
A palace grand, a walled domain
Such mighty works born of his reign
Built by slaves, their hearts in chains
But seasons change and tyrants die
His fury spent in times gone by
The thunder slept beneath Kun-Lai
By Zandalari hands he has been taken
By Zandalari voice he has awakened
Gather heroes, sound the drums
The Thunder King comes
The Thunder King comes~
18:54 OMG WOWCRENDORS LUCKYDO RAP
For some reason the thing that always stuck in me about Lei Shen isnt himself, its that scenario where you solo one of his big rock dude door guards and when he gets low hp he says, "To strike me is to strike His majesty. He will not suffer this insult!"
I always liked that kind of fanatical loyalty to his God-King-Emperor.
Devs said in a interview that 1v1 Lei-Shen beats Arthas but Army v Army Arthas wins.
Yes Arthas need his army to win against lei shen and he is not idiot in war probably Arthas will overwhelm him with scourge and kill kim but 1v1 its not gonna be good.
I know about this, but actually find this hard to believe. The Mogu are made from Stone surely that gives them a edge over a Undead Army, especially is Leo Shin uses the \engine of Nalak'sha.
@@aster4jaden Not all Mogu escaped the curse of flesh
@@DisastrousIntentionally he hold back as much as his last brainpower could while beeing corrupted. It is said that the scourge can basically easy overrun whole azeroth.. so it must be insanely huge.
>most impactful ruler the world has ever seen
Azshara: Hold my maelstrom.
Also Azshara: *Dies like a chump in the most insulting way possible without her own expansion...*
@@navilluscire2567 Azshara dindt died dude
Lei Shen most impactful ruler Azeroth has ever seen.
Queen Azshara: Am I a joke to you.
If I recall Lei Shen is the most powerful mortal to ever lived on Azeroth, considering he had the power of a titan keeper and he was equally or more powerful then the celestials, which are the pandaren wild gods. The reason he died is because of the machine of origination killed him, and we fought him when he was greatly weakened, and he gave us a hard time.
not sure to what extend he would compare to Aegwinn, but yea, probably
@@fizzlewick I imagine their magical power is equal, but Lei Shen is still a 12 foot tall dog-statue man.
mmh how about Garrosh with the heart of Y'sharj? was he not as strong?
@@theweirdguythatlurksundery8337 He probably Is, but thats more god than mortal at that point probably
Then again, ARTHAS, No, not bolvar- please no- But also Arthas, Aegwyn, Garrosh ( Corrupted ) And SYLVA - ( Dies from simp )
i hate when people say MoP was just kung fu panda when it was not only the peak post-arthas lore but the last good bit of lore Warcraft ever saw.
Nah legion was more interesting lore wise. MoP did have interesting lore though it's just a shame it was absolutely the worst expansion for pvp.
Platinum really going all in on that head waggle this week.
8:57 come to think about it...when did Lei Shen get any followers between his self exile and finding Ra'den? It seems like it's implied by his story that he traveled alone, since his entire family had been slain and their servants probably all made to serve the usurper who killed his father. Did Shen just wander around the war torn country were hundreds of petty warlords were dunking it out for dominance and managed to find some gullible mogu to accompany him despite not being much of an anything up until his ascension to godhood? *Did he promise them cake or tea!?* I dunno, it seems strange he even survived as long as he did in such unstable times without much protection or magic mcguffins.
In the "Rumbles of Thunder" lore achievement a readable item describes Lei Shen as having followers, but only a handful of the bravest and most loyal accompanied him to the Isle of Thunder.
If i remember correctly, there was mentioned that some of the most loyal followers of his family followed him into exile. Which were only a handful, so no one bothered.
Bro you are the best there is. The editing, the presentation, you are a croissant amongst slices of wonder bread, clearly superior with a well rounded form and great quality. How you don’t have 1 mil subs is beyond the me. Keep reigning king.
My favourite part of Lei Shen's lore is that he got _so_ decadent that, despite the Mogu still being genderless rockmen, he sculpted a pair of _women_ in imitation of the Pandaren and other Curse of Flesh races, just so he'd have women _to_ rule.
I said this in the Klaxxi video but MoP has the BEST Standalone lore and storytelling of any expac. Period. Lei Shen is such a cool character, and ToT is one of blizz best raids.
Imagine just a moment if the Thunder King would have manage to gain control of the forge.
No more curse of flesh, no more old gods. No scourge. No Sylvanas and NO SHADOWLANDS !
#BringBackDaddyThunderKing #ThunderKingDidNothingWrong
funni shadowlands bad
@@notarron8913 Yea, imagine thinking anything WoW produced in terms of lore other than MoP is good lol
Man the question with the Ducks is something i also was wondering about. Like What the Quack?
18:11 I would also like to mention that mogu anima and Shadowlands anima not being connected is contradicted in-game with the Glory of the Nathrian Raider achievement. For the Lady Inerva Darkvein fight, you feed a mogu construct pet from the Throne of Thunder anima from Castle Nathria to empower it and summon an add, which wouldn't work if the two weren't connected.
The thing is, they said related, not the same. They shouldn't have had to say they're not the same, since being connected to something inherently means you are not the same exact thing as said something! Blizzard having to say that they're not the same stems from the same problem as the misconception that all Mesozoic animals are dinosaurs: humans being idiots, which is only the niche for those with a death wish.
King Varian wrynn is probably one of my Favorite Kings and he has a really cool story!
he called it with the ducks, either that or blizz has been watching and decided " 'sigh' alright, add in the ducks "
lol we got mallard ducks in dragonflight. Was farming for salamanther scales when I came across a mallard while listening to this video.
9:46 Actually LeiShen=the thunder king, so you are already the Thunder King
When MoP first came out i remember thinking how lame Lei Shen was. "So we fought gods and demon lords and monsters from beyond the Void, and now some random ancient kings appears out from nowhere acting as if he's hot stuff" i thought.
But with benefit of hindsight i kinda see how cool and interesting fighting him was. It was basically a battle between the creations of the Titans to see who will become the true successor of their legacy.
That's kind of what happens when players have fought and won against literal demigods and demon lords, nothing else matters anymore, the world becomes small and flimsy, a mere backdrop for the next 'epic' but repetitive raid on the next eldritch wannabe that has this master plan thousands of years in the making that...gets unraveled in like a year by some random mortal schmucks that get stupidly more and more powerful because of arbitrary reasons.
@@navilluscire2567 not because of arbitrary reasons it is because of systems and systems behind systems
@@SAINTPABLO94
What systems? In game mechanics? Things such as *"exp"* and *"levels"* doesn't exist lorewise. How are a bunch of mortals able to become powerful enough to fight literal gods in a ridiculously short period of time? What's the power system behind it?
@@navilluscire2567 It is because of the thousands of systems Blizzard implemented. We get stronger from expansion to expansion. All the “power” and artifacts, legendaries etc we have now dont feel special anymore.
@@SAINTPABLO94
Exactly...yet that won't stop more and more 'legendary' stuff from being heaped on the player characters because the story demands escalation and epic clashes with ever more abstract, cosmic entities.
17:27 He just put a roll of sushi when the fish people got deafet! Lmaooo
Platinum is just another level of comedy
Nice topic for a vid my man. The Thunder Chad King story is one of my favorite ones, eventho im not a big pandaria fan. it actually made the mogu so much more interesting in my eyes. i love it. WOW is in a dire state, but the lore is all we've got to feed our nostalgia. I'd like you to focus mostly on older lore aswell (everything pandaria and before) and you are doing great job with it. Keep it up, much love
"If you're like me and use the Internet!"
... Oh My God.. I USE THE INTERNET!
20:05 Typo "Do you nor realize under my rule" should be "Do you not realize under my rule"
Thank you for the video have a great day
5:03... With the new expansion 'Dragonflight' announced, Lei Shen will finally have one issue less to ponder about. Ducks will be in WoW!
Lei Shen appearing in the sky like the Isle of Thunder load screen is a very nice touch.
To be fair we don't know much about King Terenas Manethill II, he's a decent king compare to other kings of the Alliance, his kingdom held out against the Horde AND the Scourge for a while without the aids of magic or giant fricking walls and only fell when Arthas murdered him, effectively getting rid of the one and only unifying figure that could rally any effective ressitance against the Scourge, had he survived the Fall of Lordaeron, we would have probably became the High King of the Alliance as others would count on his experience and level headedness compared to the younger and more aggressive Varian
Not to mention that he earned Uther's respect, the Lightbringer, not the Shadowlander
Shoutout to the WoWCrendor reference. Fantastic song!
Jesus, you are a great story teller plus a comedy genius in my opinion. I laughed every single time when I saw Lei Shen shaking his head like a mad man he was.
giving varian's death the fart reverb sound effect is powerful
Loved the Crendor reference with the grummle
You have villians like this, the litch king, Guldan, Sargeras, and now you have Zo' fucking' bald
Wouldnt be surprised if all of this was apart of his plan too
18:53 Just that alone made me love this even more
Anyone that knows that reference is instantly based
The nod to Crendor's Luckydo video got me! So good
15:27-15:40 is the best part. Haven't laughed this much in awhile!
Very good content and story explanation! Subscribed!
5:05 honestly never thought about it, but a good question
LeiShen *ponders the non-existence of ducks*
Me:
What? That is preposterous. Surely there is some ducks in WoW.
*googles*
.....
I mean surely
*googles some more*
....
What.
*googles a bit more*
WHAT!?
*GOOGLES*
SERIOUSLY!?
This was a GREAT way to start my morning. I love everything you put out on this channel. Make sure your parents know how great a job they did because you're amazing!
What I love about Warcraft lore is how anybody and anyone can be the strongest most badass and the most frail and weak without breaking the story...
Sure the trolls were once the greatest empire on the planet who beat the shit out of the old gods....but these days..lol...
Also sure the tol'vir were defeated and enslaved by both C'thun and Ner'zhul...but once upon a time they killed lie shen
No that song for the Grummles, now I will have it stuck in my head all day.
I’m gonna be honest I can keep rewatching these videos and I still think they’re amazing every time
Well done on the Ad btw. I think that's the first one I've ever been interested in watching all the way through. Good music and graphics
Missed chance to say Varian got disenchanted 😭☠️
Where are the ducks, Master Ra? WHERE ARE THEY?! - Lei Shen, circa -15.000
It is such a stark contrast in quality between Zovaal and Lei Shen's introduction considering both had no prior lore to their expansion.
top quality video buddy! i love how you animated all of the wow toons and stuff. i like stories told like this.
It's sad that he was actively trying to complete Radens job since Raden just decided to have big depression compared to the other keerpers and stop without letting someone else take over (that being said, the "titans are dead doom gloom" was a weird walkback in hindsight)
Had Lei Shen won, there would have been no Sundering... He would have made the Legion go into hiding on Argus, would have single handedly beaten each old god in a 1v1 duel... Man... The world of what could have been.
“Thunder quakes the skies long before the lightning strikes.”
I’m not sure that light is faster than sound, but who am I to argue?
he means that in a thunder storm it's usually the storm that comes first and then the lightning afterwards. Therefore Thunder quaking the skies before the lightning strikes
Guess you're new to critical thinking
Wasn't origionally a fan of the pandaren aesthetics and I still wish they hadn't been made playable, but the MOP lore is some of if not the best written lore WoW got and proved that they COULD write new and origional villains that weren't just desperately riding on old WC3 threads.
Shame that potential didn't really live beyond MOP.
Pandaria, her hills of gold
In dark and mournful times of old
Did once a hopeless horror hold
When from her sacred veil did spring
With storm and flash, a monstrous thing
His name Lei-Shen, the Thunder King
His thunder boomed across the land
And none who dared and fought could stand
Against the iron tyrant’s hand
A palace grand, a walled domain
Such mighty works born of his reign
Built by slaves, their hearts in chains
But seasons change and tyrants die
His fury spent in times gone by
The thunder slept beneath Kun Lai
By Zandalari hands he has been taken
By Zandalari voice he has awakened
Gather heroes, sound the drums
The Thunder King comes
The Thunder King comes
Apparently all the ducks were on the Dragon Isles the whole time
Poor Ra-den. They could've left him with some food or something.
Give him Snickers
We have ducks & peace now. rest now all is well young one
Ohh man.. ToT 10-man heroic... good old times. Give back please!
I wish they would make Cata & MoP Classic but add all current features like the updated transmog system etc. to the game aswell as all unreleased and cut out content frm Cata/MoP. Probably the best state WoW would be ever at.
MoP had some amazing braids with great atmosphere, ToT in particular.
I still listen to the Moguzheung soundtrack from time to time, takes me right back.
The Tol'vir decided to use Protoss tactics. Good on them for defending their pyramid like structure long enough to blow the invaders.
For Platinum WoW’ s video,I even watch the advertise through.
15:38 Seriously why didn't the August Celestials just team up and beat the crap out of Lei Shen!? They should've been more than enough powerful together to utterly destroy the arrogant Thunder King!
I hope WoW recovers so you get over a million views. You’re a good one buds.
R.I.P. Christopher Lee
He voice acted Lei Shen.
I hate it when Blizzard builds such a strong lore for a character e.g. "This guy literally beats gods up" and then proceeds to just let like a random bunch of adventurers kick the shit out of them and own them easily.
"The ducks are on the dragon isles" - Ra
Finally a Platinum WoW video to keep me away from the hardships of life-
Random mobs*
People dont understand 2 things
1: Every soldier of the legion is a k¡||ing machine
2: In Legion our character was broken asf, we are like aewin or similar in power
In the current climate of everything at Blizzard constantly pushing the limits of how bad things can get, Platinum's videos of Warcraft lore seem to be the only good thing about the game. Keep 'em going, buddy! Remind us of better days...
You saw what happened when they introduced seagulls, do you really want to endure the torture that ducks would inflict on us?
“The thunder king is easily the most powerful and impactful ruler Azeroth has ever known”
Azshara: “Hold my beer.”
I'd say that Lei Shen had more raw power than Azshara, and would probably defeat her in combat (unless N'zoth intervened). Azshara may be smarter and more manipulative than him though. Also Lei Shen was second to no one in his chain of command, wheras Azshara still answered to N'zoth, even if she did plan to betray him.
Thank you for still creating content regularly, while not leaving us fans waiting indefinitely on the next installment of a series.
If Blizzard ever made a Warcraft IV then this story should be one of the campaigns
Have no idea what you’re talking about but you have pretty good editing and a good sounding voice, good job for someone I discovered in the comments section of a Drew Golden video.
Mogu and Pandaria Lore? My favorite.