I never saw Moira as an Antagonist, more like a neutral character who shows well the dysfunctional political system in the Alliance and how torn it is. Alliance players may argue that the Horde had a worse political system, but they always stuck together and the only problem was the role of Warchief, who could literally do whatever he wanted. Which was resolved by canceling this role.
@@terrycrimson6702 She was definitely meant to be an antagonist, though. The turmoil in Ironforge during Cataclysm came exclusively from her and her claims to power, and she was depicted as conniving and ugly in official art (yes, storytelling was that shallow at the time) and was always rude. Clearly there was some story planned there that didn't fully resolve (along with Magni's transformation which was pushed back and changed to be about Legion instead), because they turned on a dime in Mists of Pandaria with a new story that made her out to be respectful and heroic, and she was suddenly way cuter in official art. Her story has been a confusing one, to say the least.
Why would anyone be scared to ask a question to those nice gentlemen. Specialy to Alex, he looks like a nice, reliable guy. I mean, he immediatly took upon action to fix their mistake.
@@Usagi33353 I know, i was just making a joke. He also suffers autism, that is the reazon he was so scared of speaking. Gotta give it to him, he is not just a hero for pointing out that mistake, but because he overcame such an obstacle. He even had a yt channel, dunno if he still uploads tho.
I want to add that it wasn't just only nervousness, apparently the words he spoke through the mic were echoing around in the big hall. I've had VOIP calls for work where I heard my own voice back (with a delay) and I had worse speech performance than this dude so I don't want to even imagine how this would work in a huge hall. Not just because of nervousness but it totally throws you off somehow. Please consider this :)
Back then, I didn't get how Metzen could fumble his own characters like that, but then I tried DMing Dungeons and Dragons. I get it now. I'm running a tiny world for 5 people and I forget things ALL THE TIME, let alone a character that was last brought up like 6 years ago.
@@ZenFr0gWhen you're handling this much lore all the time, there are bound to be mistakes. But it's really no big deal since you can just write it so that it works. Unless you do a Shadowlands and nuke your own story.
Genuine question: How do you keep track of this at all? I hear people talking about years long DnD stories every so often and I always wonderes how they even do that. Do you have like a journal or something? Is it just memory?@@ZenFr0g
@@Wyrmshield it's in one of the short stories that was created for the release of WoD. She kinda "blackmailed" all 3 of the repair persons to to pandaria and fixed it together.
@@billbadson7598 I mean, ok, fair enough, good point. She speaks with a Scottish accent. Kinda. Is that a better phrasing? It's a thing for all dwarfs? Yeah, but like, they named them both MOIRA out of all fricken names, Yeah, Alex, what's up with that?
@@KostasTsakalidis _"but like, they named them both MOIRA out of all fricken names"_ That is pretty wild. Imagine how weird it would be if there were two different games that both had black-haired Chinese-looking people who had Chinese accents and were both named Wang. Can you imagine two completely different Chinese-coded people being named Wang? Almost unbelievable.
Moira is actually a very compelling factor to why Classic wow felt right. She was that one element/weakness in the otherwise pristine Ironforge and its ruler, making the faction (and the alliance overall) more believable. She's also had very believable motives for a "kill the horde" policy given they canonically murdered her husband. The associated quest are great too. Tho I thought she was the one that initiated the ambush in the first place... Certainly was in character atleast.
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What makes Moira a great character is that she strived for it and instead of remaining as the bad guy then dying, she remained fighting for her people not for power unlike Garrosh who fought for his people but really went extreme lengths to remain in power.
@@frostmagemarii What was the retcon? I'm guessing it's that the Dark Iron Dwarves were just pure evil all evil baddie baddie no goods. And the retcon was that they were enslaved to Ragnaros.
I love the animations in this, I wasn't expecting Dwarf Babies to be a classed as a Throwable Weapons but then again if Vrykul born humans are classed as an ammo I guess it makes sense
Seeing Moira come to aid Vrynn against the Trolls really proves how from beggining she wanted best for the Dwarven citizen After her Husband died. She really felt the responsibility the most. Man imagine if Sylvanas was such dedicated to her people all the time too, instead of being depressed selfish %$#@! after Arthas died.
There's a universe where Legion Sylvanas continues her positive character arc unimpeded and becomes the violent, but increasingly magnanimous Optimus Prime of the ugly races. We do not live in that universe.
@@nonamenoname1133 She never had a positive Arc in Legion. She went to Stormheim solely to get more Val'kyr because she kept dying like a fucking moron and needed more lives (she's died 22 times canonically). The Desolate Council had straight up BANNED her from doing that mission to Stormheim. They didn't want anyone else to become Forsaken. Their existence is literal Hell.
@michaelgreenwood3413 bruh... she literally died trying to save her people and would of succeeded if not for a traitor among the High Elves. And even after giving her life trying to save her people she would not be given the peace of death instead raised as a Banshee puppet but with a catch Arthas let her keep her self awareness so she would be forced to watch as Arthas made her slaughter her own people that she tried so desperately to save. Like that whole scenario and the trauma Sylvanas suffers because of it has been used to explain why what she did in Teldrassil makes zero sense committing that act is a line that she literally shouldn't be able to cross.
The "red shirt kid" is one of the most legendary persons. I love him. Also love how they reacted towards him back then. Very sympathic. Those were true gamers.
I love how we as adventures are told and given full reign to go on murderous rampages without consequence just for a chance of loot to drop that will cover our wrists 😂
correction on the war of the three hammers: The Wildhammers initially went to Twilight Highlands, Grim Batol was their initial new home... after it became haunted they went to Hinterlands.
I'm glad the dwarves and Moira are getting some focus in the new expansion. Now we just need literally any story for the other two thirds of the Council of Three Hammers and we'll be golden.
Im glad you put bolivar in the last clip talking about characters who are kind of just there. I was really hoping for him and darion morgraine to have a huge role in shadowlands but nope they give you a few quests and thats it. Mabye in midnight and the last titan theyll get big roles but who knows. Im hoping khadgar makes a big return for the war within, midnight, and the last titan. Mabye not as big as he was in legion and w.o.d but its always nice having everyones favorite mage around.
Moira: You can get endless treasures in the Molten core. Like Shadowstike. Players: Shadowstrike? You mean vendor trash or enchantment materials. The other stuff, you got me listening.
thank you so much for compiling these important lore histories into a relatively bite sized and digestible format, you have the perfect blend of humour while sticking to the facts and it's really appreciated
In all honesty, I only realized the connection between the 2 Moira's when you mentioned it, and I've known of the 2 Moira's for a long time! It is now my headcannon that OW Moira is an alternate universe version of WOW Moira.
The dwarven lore in WoW is really good! And I like how some characters grow with each expansion. Also, her grown up son looks a lot like Percy from Vox Machina!
Awesome video as always man! Feels doubly important since not only is she going to play a role in TWW, but the "Blood in the Snow" Scenario is available to que for in Pandaria Remix. Old codgers like me who follow the lore and did it back in the day will know what is going on- but I imagine newer players are probably wondering why Moira and the Dark Irons stepping up is such a big deal. :)
I've wondered about the two Moiras in Overwatch and WoW as well, honestly. Moira's OW trailer at blizzcon was one of my first introductions to the game and my first thought was "she's a discipline priest".
Wasn't Anduin only able to get out of Ironforge because of a hearthstone Jaina gave him, and he didn't get to speak with Varian until after Varian and the SI:7 had infiltrated IF? Or did that get retconned in Chronicles?
Probably Moira's best leadership quality is her communication to her father that shes taken queenship over blackrock mountain. Really saved a lot of lives. And fatherly headaches.
Every time I heard Moira speak I couldn't help but to think Annah-of-the-Shadows (legendary singer Sheena Easton!) from Planescape: Torment. Darn, that's one hot accent.
Could u make a video on Shadowforge City in particular? Like, its history and layout and architecture, etc.? That would be awesome! In any case, thanks for all your fantastic videos!
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Hey king, there is a reoccurring typo in first half of this. It's Thaurissan - Not Thrauissan
the ending was funny XD also veeeeeery cool vid - always love LORE vids from you Plat!
I never saw Moira as an Antagonist, more like a neutral character who shows well the dysfunctional political system in the Alliance and how torn it is.
Alliance players may argue that the Horde had a worse political system, but they always stuck together and the only problem was the role of Warchief, who could literally do whatever he wanted. Which was resolved by canceling this role.
@@terrycrimson6702 She was definitely meant to be an antagonist, though. The turmoil in Ironforge during Cataclysm came exclusively from her and her claims to power, and she was depicted as conniving and ugly in official art (yes, storytelling was that shallow at the time) and was always rude. Clearly there was some story planned there that didn't fully resolve (along with Magni's transformation which was pushed back and changed to be about Legion instead), because they turned on a dime in Mists of Pandaria with a new story that made her out to be respectful and heroic, and she was suddenly way cuter in official art. Her story has been a confusing one, to say the least.
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@@beny988 I am a man
@@beny988 I can't dislike your comment any harder to see the red thumb of down man!.....man
Imagine being red shirt guy. scared as shit to ask your question, then you get an in game NPC.
Why would anyone be scared to ask a question to those nice gentlemen. Specialy to Alex, he looks like a nice, reliable guy. I mean, he immediatly took upon action to fix their mistake.
@@josejuanandrade4439 Stage frieght is a thing
@@Usagi33353 I know, i was just making a joke. He also suffers autism, that is the reazon he was so scared of speaking. Gotta give it to him, he is not just a hero for pointing out that mistake, but because he overcame such an obstacle. He even had a yt channel, dunno if he still uploads tho.
I want to add that it wasn't just only nervousness, apparently the words he spoke through the mic were echoing around in the big hall. I've had VOIP calls for work where I heard my own voice back (with a delay) and I had worse speech performance than this dude so I don't want to even imagine how this would work in a huge hall. Not just because of nervousness but it totally throws you off somehow. Please consider this :)
@@josejuanandrade4439 One does not suffer from autism. We suffer the reactions from NA folk.
You know that you leveled up nerd lvl 9000 when you correct Metzen live on his lore.
THAT'S ALMOST OVER 9000
Back then, I didn't get how Metzen could fumble his own characters like that, but then I tried DMing Dungeons and Dragons. I get it now. I'm running a tiny world for 5 people and I forget things ALL THE TIME, let alone a character that was last brought up like 6 years ago.
@@ZenFr0gWhen you're handling this much lore all the time, there are bound to be mistakes. But it's really no big deal since you can just write it so that it works.
Unless you do a Shadowlands and nuke your own story.
Genuine question: How do you keep track of this at all? I hear people talking about years long DnD stories every so often and I always wonderes how they even do that. Do you have like a journal or something? Is it just memory?@@ZenFr0g
Tbf he was rectifying Christie Golden's mistake since she wrote in the false Falstad in The Shattering. It's weird how she got fired recently as well.
“Moira is born a baby” As opposed to what?
she was born at a very young age...
As opposed to the legend that dwarves are born as adult men with full beard, booming voice, and chronic alcoholism to boot.
😂facts
@@dandankovsky7968I refuse to acknowledge that that is not how they are actually born
An egg? Lol
Moira was also the one who sent dwarves to help repair the Jade Serpent statue in Pandaria.
Moira knows to replace her divot.
I didn't know that, that's really cool!
@@Wyrmshield it's in one of the short stories that was created for the release of WoD. She kinda "blackmailed" all 3 of the repair persons to to pandaria and fixed it together.
Moira has always been a priestess. During the Black Rock Depth fight, she's there healing the Emperor. It's a quest condition to keep her alive.
Red shirt guy will always be a legend for out lore-ing Metzen.
Note for myself: Dwarven babies may serve as a surprisingly effective and durable projectiles ...
Just like dwarven bread
Small humanoids are very useful, same with gnomes being the perfect size for fish bait
Very true, as seen in Dwarf Fortress
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11:27 The hero we never knew we needed
red shirt gigachad
For real that red shirt guy is kind of a legend
Ehrm, actually ☝️🤓
Moira from Overwatch is Irish, not Scottish
@sadieteawalsh eating the curb shaped cake and having an awesome day 4K UHD DOLBY audio
@@oryxslayer0296 congrats
WoW Moira isn't Scottish either, since Scotland doesn't exist on Azeroth. 0 for 2. :(
@@billbadson7598 I mean, ok, fair enough, good point.
She speaks with a Scottish accent. Kinda. Is that a better phrasing? It's a thing for all dwarfs? Yeah, but like, they named them both MOIRA out of all fricken names, Yeah, Alex, what's up with that?
@@KostasTsakalidis _"but like, they named them both MOIRA out of all fricken names"_
That is pretty wild. Imagine how weird it would be if there were two different games that both had black-haired Chinese-looking people who had Chinese accents and were both named Wang. Can you imagine two completely different Chinese-coded people being named Wang? Almost unbelievable.
Moira is actually a very compelling factor to why Classic wow felt right. She was that one element/weakness in the otherwise pristine Ironforge and its ruler, making the faction (and the alliance overall) more believable. She's also had very believable motives for a "kill the horde" policy given they canonically murdered her husband. The associated quest are great too.
Tho I thought she was the one that initiated the ambush in the first place... Certainly was in character atleast.
Moira was born a baby.
Me: Interesting. I never knew that.
Very interesting indeed.
@@Hawkens4k quite interesting
Coulda been born as a....human ewwwww
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What makes Moira a great character is that she strived for it and instead of remaining as the bad guy then dying, she remained fighting for her people not for power unlike Garrosh who fought for his people but really went extreme lengths to remain in power.
Good comparison!
Dude, a dwarven queen got the Dark Irons into slavery and a dwarven queen got them out.
Poetry, man.
It's like rhymes it poetry
You make the mess, you clean the mess.
@@Felsparx It wasn't the same dwarven queen, though.
And Xalatath was the weapon that the former queen wield and now the new queen is fighting Kanifu.
@@BasedHorrigan OMG IT'S ILLIDAN STORMRAGE! I KNOW THAT CHARACTER!
Thanks for telling us the story about mighty Dwarf in Red tunic who can bind lore at his will, truly the best written dwarf.
The ‘world building’ with the Dark Iron Dwarves was such a pleasant surprise and represents some of the best writing in the franchise.
And the best retcon.
Moira and the Dark Iron Dwarves are some of the best lore in Warcraft.
@@mikhaelgribkov4117 One of the few times their retcons actually worked out for the better.
@@frostmagemarii What was the retcon? I'm guessing it's that the Dark Iron Dwarves were just pure evil all evil baddie baddie no goods. And the retcon was that they were enslaved to Ragnaros.
@@18KriegerHahahaha Fck no
4:15 top priority
hey let's send some random adventurers and hope they don't kill my daughter during the fight for her sick loot
will never get tired of the orcs clapping every time they appear
12:08 such a wasted opportunity to pull a Falstad line from HOTS where Falstad also says "YeAh ALeX! WhATs UP WitH ThAt?? HuH??" with a drunken tone.
I'm pretty sure the line was made after this situation.
@@tnorki I'm talking about Platinum putting that line in the video after Chris says it at that timestamp.
I love the animations in this, I wasn't expecting Dwarf Babies to be a classed as a Throwable Weapons but then again if Vrykul born humans are classed as an ammo I guess it makes sense
Seeing Moira come to aid Vrynn against the Trolls really proves how from beggining she wanted best for the Dwarven citizen After her Husband died. She really felt the responsibility the most.
Man imagine if Sylvanas was such dedicated to her people all the time too, instead of being depressed selfish %$#@! after Arthas died.
Imagine? Don't need to imagine before BFA happened and Blizzard butchered her character she was.
There's a universe where Legion Sylvanas continues her positive character arc unimpeded and becomes the violent, but increasingly magnanimous Optimus Prime of the ugly races. We do not live in that universe.
Sylvanas never gave a fuck about the Forsaken. Or the High Elves when she was alive. She IS why 90% of them died to the Scourge.
@@nonamenoname1133 She never had a positive Arc in Legion. She went to Stormheim solely to get more Val'kyr because she kept dying like a fucking moron and needed more lives (she's died 22 times canonically). The Desolate Council had straight up BANNED her from doing that mission to Stormheim. They didn't want anyone else to become Forsaken. Their existence is literal Hell.
@michaelgreenwood3413 bruh... she literally died trying to save her people and would of succeeded if not for a traitor among the High Elves.
And even after giving her life trying to save her people she would not be given the peace of death instead raised as a Banshee puppet but with a catch Arthas let her keep her self awareness so she would be forced to watch as Arthas made her slaughter her own people that she tried so desperately to save.
Like that whole scenario and the trauma Sylvanas suffers because of it has been used to explain why what she did in Teldrassil makes zero sense committing that act is a line that she literally shouldn't be able to cross.
Moira from Overwatch is Irish btw! 🍀
The "red shirt kid" is one of the most legendary persons. I love him. Also love how they reacted towards him back then. Very sympathic. Those were true gamers.
I love the mention of Vendorstrike, the greatest weapon to ever drop in your local GDKP run.
I love how we as adventures are told and given full reign to go on murderous rampages without consequence just for a chance of loot to drop that will cover our wrists 😂
correction on the war of the three hammers: The Wildhammers initially went to Twilight Highlands, Grim Batol was their initial new home... after it became haunted they went to Hinterlands.
Yeah. And the war didn't happen at the time of her parents but much earlier.
Moira and Thaurissan are number two on my "WoW couples I want to know more about" list, right under Ymiron and Angrboda
Moira is sooo based. The dwarves are amazing. The short story was extremeley touching and pleasing to read! Such a good character!
Red shirt guy is a legend and I’m so happy he was immortalized
How the heck does this channel not have more subscribers?! Man's been delivering top content for years lol!
Fr, he's also working with WoW itself
Because these videos take time, so he can't pump out videos like Asmongold's editor(s?) can.
Moira quickly became my favorite dwarf when I was playing through Wrath. Great to see her whole story told
I'm glad the dwarves and Moira are getting some focus in the new expansion. Now we just need literally any story for the other two thirds of the Council of Three Hammers and we'll be golden.
Im glad you put bolivar in the last clip talking about characters who are kind of just there. I was really hoping for him and darion morgraine to have a huge role in shadowlands but nope they give you a few quests and thats it. Mabye in midnight and the last titan theyll get big roles but who knows. Im hoping khadgar makes a big return for the war within, midnight, and the last titan. Mabye not as big as he was in legion and w.o.d but its always nice having everyones favorite mage around.
11:11 - remember back in the day, when we still could get nice things?
Old school wow lore writing was honestly insane. On par with that of pure geniushood tbh
He threw the baby! 😅
And she did it in return! 😅
BRD...I know that it's a bit of a slog to get through if you're in a rush, but it's so unique and cool that I love it.
I remember Moira's story from the books, definitely one of my favourites along with those from Archives.
Dark iron dwarf is my favorite race to play as when I play alliance. Good lore, great vibes.
Yessssss more platinum. I dont even play wow anymore but I could listen to you tell stories about anything
Ahh dwarven baby tossing! Thank you for including this key aspect of dwarven culture
I've always heard that Varian got pissed at Moira because she kept Anduin trapped in IF, not because she was making a power play per say.
Legit one the most entertaining WoW channels. Kudos
This is another character that I loved after reading The Shattering. God, I loved that book when I was young.
Moria is by far the best dwarven character in wow. Honestly glad she returns in War Within and finally gets the spotlight after so long since bfa.
Moira: You can get endless treasures in the Molten core. Like Shadowstike.
Players: Shadowstrike? You mean vendor trash or enchantment materials. The other stuff, you got me listening.
that "Everyone get in here" sound brought back some painful moments
Man, how I miss Varian Wrynn...
Same, sadly we have Mangi still.
Instead we have a king who cant stop crying
1 cry = 1 mass resurrection.
Hahaha
For the Horde!!
Skill issue, he shouldn’t have kicked the bucket smh
- Everyone, get in here !
- Hehe, for that I'm glad !
that blizcon q&a is truly legendary, so many good questions and hints to what was to come in legion/bfa
What an amazing character story, I loved it!
Finally lore of the game I've never played (officialy)
Finally about dwarves, always eager for your new videos. Thank you !
"Let's go back to the beginning. Moira is born a baby."
Man, we're really taking it back.
thank you so much for compiling these important lore histories into a relatively bite sized and digestible format, you have the perfect blend of humour while sticking to the facts and it's really appreciated
In all honesty, I only realized the connection between the 2 Moira's when you mentioned it, and I've known of the 2 Moira's for a long time!
It is now my headcannon that OW Moira is an alternate universe version of WOW Moira.
Great video! Love Moira and the conflict she brings about in the dwarf scene!
Finally. Dwarves
The glow up here is insane
i love your storytelling so much. it's helped me with warcraft lore and it's so entertaining
Something i noticed on a rewatch, Assuming that the account shown at 18:42 is Platinum's... he doesn't have MechaGnomes or Vulpera's unlocked
"Let's start at the beginning: Moira was born a baby."
Woah
Top ten shocking facts about moira
Now that's what I call a well written dwarf
The pissed varian thing in the cataclysm section had me ROLLING omg perfect sfx use
Absolutely LOVED this recap man you killed it
8:50 note Moira was only able to do this because Brann couldn't be bothered and wanted to keep playing Indiana Jones.
Every time Platinum releases a new vid, it makes me want to go back and watch them all.
Please do a video for Gazlowe one day.
All of this Moira info was amazing!
One of the very few creators I look for, for more content lol just makes me happy to listen to
19:56 except the facts of one be taller than other, and one look like Princess Leia while other look like David Bowie
The editing is top notch Plat!
The dwarven lore in WoW is really good! And I like how some characters grow with each expansion. Also, her grown up son looks a lot like Percy from Vox Machina!
Now he needs to be voice by Taliesin Jaffe :D
I wish all of wows writing could be of this caliber.
"Moira did not give a flying, dwarven f-*EEUUGGHH!*"
😂holy shit that had me rolling
At this point the game might as well be called "World of ROCK AN STONE."
Awesome video as always man! Feels doubly important since not only is she going to play a role in TWW, but the "Blood in the Snow" Scenario is available to que for in Pandaria Remix.
Old codgers like me who follow the lore and did it back in the day will know what is going on- but I imagine newer players are probably wondering why Moira and the Dark Irons stepping up is such a big deal. :)
"save my daughter....NAOWWWWW"...idk why that made me chuckle as much as it did
Glorious as always! I love the story of Thrauissan :D!
I've wondered about the two Moiras in Overwatch and WoW as well, honestly. Moira's OW trailer at blizzcon was one of my first introductions to the game and my first thought was "she's a discipline priest".
She's cool for a dwarf. The red shirt guy story is fucking awesome.
Лучший! Ждем больше видео о Лоре Варкарфта!
9:28 When you tell a fury warrior there's a problem that needs solving.
We know these take a bit of time, never compromise on quality! These are gold
Red shirt guy is real one to keep the lore in check
Red Shirt Guy tangent was awesome!
Sarcastically clapping orc is ny favourite running gag, and i cant articulate why.
Wasn't Anduin only able to get out of Ironforge because of a hearthstone Jaina gave him, and he didn't get to speak with Varian until after Varian and the SI:7 had infiltrated IF? Or did that get retconned in Chronicles?
I think Platinum just got it wrong, he usually gets a detail or two wrong in these.
Probably Moira's best leadership quality is her communication to her father that shes taken queenship over blackrock mountain. Really saved a lot of lives. And fatherly headaches.
Varian badassness shall be missed. Wished we had more SI7 mini missions lore
0:22 Big if true...
I knew about red shirt guy, but I didn't know what came of it. That's pretty wholesome.
Every time I heard Moira speak I couldn't help but to think Annah-of-the-Shadows (legendary singer Sheena Easton!) from Planescape: Torment. Darn, that's one hot accent.
i love that the in-lore reason we raid the molten core is literally for the loot
Could u make a video on Shadowforge City in particular? Like, its history and layout and architecture, etc.? That would be awesome!
In any case, thanks for all your fantastic videos!
The most impressive part of this story is Magni getting his hands on some black lotus.
"We'll get that fixed."
That's all we want to hear, man.
Just makes me remember better days along with red shirt guy.
I love you platinum WoW literally one of my favorite youtubers hands downm