The full fat Range Rover is a special case. I don't know how they do it but it just feels incredibly special in any model from the last 25 years. It's unlike any other SUV I have driven as well.
It’s a mentality thing the command driving seat the can do anything go anywhere ability farm or savoy it dose it all nothing else can do what a rangerover dose
As with most Land Rovers they get under your skin in a way other more reliable cars don't. I'm on my second L322 and 4th Land Rover and love them to bits even with their faults.
@@AutomoTom one of the many reasons I switched was the potential for more spanner time fixing stuff. I had a long list of cars that were pretty reliable and it got boring doing nothing but routine maintenance and modifications. I think I have the Land Rover bug now.
I’ve had my 2015 L405 SDV8 for 3 years now & it remains spectacular. I want no other SUV. The FFRR is like a Transit van & a Bentley had a baby. Mine gets used for everything. The tailgate is a good work bench!
There are rare moments when people admit they were wrong about something and revise their opinion. Thank you for this very honest statement. I would like to emphasize something else: this car is so much more than just a normal vehicle, and it starts right below the automatic selector lever. If you dare to venture off the roads, that's where the true calling of this absolute off-road vehicle begins to unfold. Thank you again from a loyal L322 driver who might decide to get a 405 one day, but then only LWB if the wifey has her way.😁👍🏻
I'm on my 4th SDV8 Full Fat Rangie (7th Range Rover in total) - go and get it properly rolling road remapped (I only ever use DMS Automotive) and it will transform the car. You won't believe how quick 2.5 tonnes can shift! Fuel economy increased too which was a bonus. Definitely the way it should have come from the factory, 400hp and 750+ torque. My current one is the Euro 6 Autobiography so road tax is lower too, £395 I think. Epic cars!
The biggest problem comes when you think what could I possibly replace it with? I love my L322 and can’t imagine life without one now. Love the channel and the journey you are on
One of the best parts of a person is to not become their ideas and be open to new ways of thinking. Sometimes you can hold yourself back instead of just being honest and open to new things. I used to despise autos but now waft around in one
My theory was I’d be more qualified to hate on them if we owned one… but didn’t anticipate liking it 🙈 I’ll always be honest on this channel even if it’s painful to admit 😅
Best thing you can do on the SDV8 is change the oil at 5-6000 miles. More so if you do a lot of short journeys, they don’t like short journeys as it causes a lot of incomplete DPF regens, which in turn means more oil dilution.
@@AI-Records24 not such a good idea going forward. Since they are looking to implement a stricter particulate test for Euro 5 onwards. All good fun deleting it now. Not so fun having to buy a new DPF when testing changes.
Two things to help with the theft anxiety - switch off keyless entry (a feature I’ve never really valued on my L405) and always double lock the doors when you leave it. I might curse it now, but I think the vast majority of thefts rely on keyless entry - get rid of that and it becomes a lot harder to nick (🤞🤞🤞). Doesn’t help with insurance 😢 but better than nowt!
One of the first things I did was switch it off. Oh and got the Ghost immobiliser switched over from my previous car. Neither help insurance but as you say it gives a bit of peace of mind.
Great video Ben, ive only got a baby RR, a 2013 Evoque but i love it! Its my daily, take it to the cash & carry, great for the winters we get up here in NE Scotland. I even deliver people's meat orders to them from my butchers shop if they are snowed in & never been stuck. It only had 32000 miles on it when i bought it 3 years ago and its got 64000 on it now, its needed new tyres, brake discs and pads and thats it! Brilliant! 👍👏👏♥️
Had mine five and a half years and bloody love it! My advice is GET IT MAPPED! Improves the power curve (400bhp/800Nm Torque), takes away the lag at roundabouts and junctions AND improves mpg 🤘🏼😎 Trust me you will never look back!! 0-62 in 5 secs 😮
@@sammyg805 Nope but that is a common misconception. Manufacturers set vehicle ecu’s according to the country there are to be sold in to meet emissions rules blah blah. This means that that very often those engines are NOT working efficiently and how they were initially designed to operate. Remapping does what it says on the tin, re-flashing the ecu and engine management systems to retrain them get the best out the unit wether that be power output, fuel economy, removing hesitation/lag/fuel starvation etc. In most cases the various stages of a remap will only benefit the whole picture, how the vehicle drives, performs and even the longevity and reliability of the vehicle as a whole. 😎
12:37 "Let's test the turning circle..." [Drives over a children's playground, over someone's house] "Right..." [and several cars] "...yeah not bad, but I did cheat a little."
Love this. Full Fat and sports in non gangster/footballer specs are lovely cars. Flawed but get under your skin. They feel very safe not only due to the active safety but you will find you drive it slower and you are more relaxed driving it (with all the passive safety aspects of this).
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Hi Ben……. I’ve been driving Range Rovers since august 1986!!!! They’re a bloody good work horse!!! Can tow anything!!! Can carry everything, had a lounge couch in the back the other day!!! Brilliant seating position!!! As the original advertisement said for the Range Rover, June 1970, A CAR FOR ALL REASONS!!! Regards Ian 👨🎤🇳🇿👍🍸🍸
Mine is very similar (age, colour, engine) but poverty-spec and it wasn't cheap when I bought it, but I have had the pleasure of driving it for nearly six years now. I wouldn't do without the deployable side steps and my wife certainly wouldn't. They tell me reliability may be a problem. Still waiting.
Thanks for this Ben! Petrol head father of 4 boys under 8, your content is gold for me. I’ve been hypothetical window shopping on auto trader RR l405s for few months thinking what if.
Switching is something you would enjoy. I switched to a 2014 L494 SDV8 Autobiography after a very long list of hot hatches and performance cars. I traded in my M2 for the Range Rover. No regrets so far. I would say it’s best is you are not afraid to get stuck in doing maintenance yourself. I’ve had to do the oil cooler gaskets since buying it. Also replaced both handbrake actuators as they were cracked and causing fault codes and the handbrake to stick on at the most awkward times. I also changed all fluids front to back when I got it bar coolant. Bad points, my rear differential has started to fail. Unfortunately not something I could tackle myself as the earlier cars the propshaft is threaded at the rear diff end and held to the pinion nut by a threaded retaining nut. Of course that needs a specialist tool that’s £300 alone. So financially it makes sense to get my local specialist to do it.
@@dadcars sweet! Probably the difference between having boys and girls, my boys I suspect would just fight constantly on a row of 4 but I love the idea of one, great bit of kit.
I can 100% say I was just like you. I always said why would anyone want a range rover, even if I had the money I would not get one... Well I bought a used 2013 RRSS (L320) with 86k miles for $12,500 USD. I can honestly say it is hands down my favorite daily driver. There is no better everyday cruising vehicle comfort wise, it is so smooth! Now all I want is a newer range rover. I am really looking into a 2017 RRS L405's now.
Just got one of these but LWB from 2020 with the 525hp v8 petrol. Amazing car no SUV comes close unless we talk rolls royce but these are close for 10-20% of the price. Amazing cars. Uploaded a video from the backseat aswell. Like first class plane on wheels, brillisnt.
Very interesting to hear your perspective from the angle of not wanting to like it! Just demonstrates that many of the Range Rover naysayers out there need to drive one/live with one first before drawing conclusions! Fingers crossed it’s a painless ownership experience for you!
Yep, I’ve been very judgemental of them over the years as excessive and unnecessary which in many ways is still true but I can’t deny the appeal anymore 🙈
This is literally how I felt before changing to a RR recently. I came from an Alfa Giulia Veloce. I needed more room, the Stelvio didn’t have a wow factor inside for me. All other SUVs were incredibly boring. But I went with a RR Velar V6 and in my opinion it’s design and lines of the car is even more special than the normal RR. It’s incredibly comfortable to drive and has impressed me so much.
As a driver in a Range Rover you can see ahead far further on the motorway to avoid sudden pile ups. You are also above the spray when it's raining and headlight glare
I currently have a 2013 sdv8 in aintree green for sale after deciding to go back to a defender (classic) I love defenders but I’m thinking maybe I’ve made a mistake after driving the Range Rover the other day 😅 I wish I could keep both but insurance won’t allow it. Mine has been pretty reliable, apart from an alternator, so was my previous l322 which I serviced myself every 5k and sold to a friend who still uses it daily, that one has just ticked over 190k. Amazing cars, but they definitely get under your skin and that can be costly, but imo definitely worth it for the driving experience, which is unmatched. Enjoy!
I actually really like this model of Range Rover. The ‘wanker tank’ image of SUV’s really puts me off them in general, but I totally get why you’d end up really liking it for all the reasons you explained. Great review as always 👍
Had mine for 6 months. Can’t see me getting anything different anytime soon. It’s fantastic. I stuck a Ghost and a Scorpion tracker on mine. I don’t live too far from where you film and I’m paying £1000 with Hastings.
you can buy parts surprisingly cheap from Britpart, LR Direct and others. Dont buy from a dealer and there are landrover specialists offering servicing much cheaper than GBP600.
my 3 litre Diesel is plenty adequate 130000KM no issues, serviced every 10000km. Probably a generation thing, being 78 retired British Motor Dealer. V * has issue reports too
The controls on this are so much better than the newest model - it’s too spartan looking now. Maybe there will still be some well cared for examples of these for me to buy!
Had mine 8 years never had any big issues and defo never had to spend 2k a year on serving just a give it the big service every year @ £500 replacing all the filters oil etc
@@dadcars and with regards to the back box on your vid yesterday get the rear silencer’s deleted should cost around £240 transforms the sound of the car
Things like the fullsize RR, discovery, Land Cruiser, X5, and Cayenne get the pass imo because they’re actually useful as far as towing and off road are concerned
@@dadcars go to your local livestock market and find out for yourself 😅 it’s the shit crossover econoboxes that I can’t stand, as they literally offer nothing over a hatchback. Oh and SUV coupes I especially hate
Nice review Ben…. Relocate your OBD port. It saved my Discovery 4 a couple of times. Yes, it won’t cheapen your insurance or stop them trying, but your car will be there when you return. Costs nothing and takes minutes….. the Ghost is excellent and maybe you can get a sponsored deal but at full price they are quite prohibitive for a 15k older vehicle. They do make sense for a 100k car though of course!
Never had one but fancied one got an X6 which is my Work horse and it's fantastic My jag XK is my love 😂 chalk and cheese Interested to see how you get on with it. The reliability reputation always scared me off
Welcome to the other side. I have friends that gave me crap for buying a 2007 L322 Supercharged about 6 years ago. They have no clue how great these are! They can do it all!
Jeez Ben, whats happened? you've changed😂 Funny you should mention theft anxiety, I had that myself a couple of weeks ago, so much so i pulled out of buying a car i'd love to own. If they want to steal it when its left somewhere thats one thing, but breaking into the house for the keys, thats another level and the thing that unfortunately put me off
Put a Lotus Evora 2010 on the list? Prices getting sensible and an alu tub chassis will make for some good videos....only half the weight of the RR. lol
Hi Ben. Hope you and family are doing well. I loved the video. Live the color of that Range Rover. Love the leather everywhere inside too. How's the Bluey mobile doing? That's what my wife and i call the Avantime. We both love it. I watched James's video he did with the Avantime. Stay safe and take care.
Love the fact you're in the throws a being converted😂, i had a 2015 sdv8 autobiography and i spent about £4500 in 2 years on maintenance which included a new oil cooler and front lower control arms both of which you're gonna end up doing soon. The rest was 6 services in 20k miles as too many short runs was messing up the oil, but the mrs loved it and the kids loved it and i couldn't imagine owning anything else now which is why we've just upgraded to a 2017 5.0 sc autobiography with all the options 😂
@dadcars honestly these cars aren't as scary as people make them out too be, find yourself a good independent specialist ( who frankly seem too know more than the jlr dealers) and you'll be no worse off than running a q7 or x5 both of which have there own issues. I'm like you, a massive petrol head with young kids and I want to let them learn the emotions we attach to the cool cars we own, they love seeing what nutty thing I buy next🤣🤣
Hi great video, I have a 18 plate sport and absolutely love it. I’ve had some nice cars in the past but nothing compares to the sport for comfort. What cameras do you currently use for your videos. Keep up the great content.
I share your opinions on SUVs. However, the Range Rover, pre-dates the term SUV by decades. It's a proper, purpose built luxury offroader that has serious ability. It is not a jacked-up road car with an inflated body. It's ok to dislike SUVs but still like Range Rovers. I had a late 4.4TDV8 L322 and in many ways enjoyed owning that as a toy more than my C6 RS6. The RS6 is mental fast and sounds fantastic and I love it. But the Range Rover was just such a nice place to be and was so versatile. You need to get yourself a decent steering wheel lock - stoplok pro or disclock to reduce theft anxiety
@@dadcars the RS6 is fabulous. Superb and I love it. Only slight criticism is the ride is a bit firm and it does like a drink. Mind you, on a motorway run it can average 28mpg if you're careful on the loud pedal.
Currently on the look out for one of these. 2015 onwards. Never done so much research into buying a car and I’m still a bit nervous 😅. Being a mechanic should keep the service and general repair costs down. Which will leave money to cover the price of parts when the big stuff breaks 💀.
Matt from High Peak Autos channel has good advice - always leave a couple of £000's for ongoing maintenance / repair costs when buying RRs. Don't think you will be able to skimp
@@daiwatkins1984 even the big stuff isn’t too bad. My rear differential has just started to complain. Took it to a local specialist and they could confirmed my suspicions. The diff comes in at £2700, not bad considering it’s the locking diff. Needs a “special tool” literally a piece of 10mm plate cut to resemble a spanner with a 3/8 drive hole at the end for removing and torquing the prop shaft to the pinion nut. That’s £300 alone, if you can get one. If you did the diff yourself there is a £600 refundable surcharge so could cost as little as £2100.
Please don’t talk down the 3 ltr. I bought my 3 ltr because of 2 things. Firstly the tax. For mine it’s £385. Secondly it’s the economy. I regularly commute between Kent and the Yorkshire Dales and I average 44 mpg!!! It just rolls along at the maximum permitted speed, in supreme comfort, whisper quiet, sipping diesel. I love it!
I’ve a v8 l405, my third rangie, i’ve had them for 12 years. My other car is a 911 turbo - sorry but v8 RRs are undisputed best all round cars, ever. If you know you know. Although the previous model was more fun - you had to really drive it, scandy flick it into bends, where as the l405 is more forgiving and car like, lost some majesty
As a car trader I’ve had many. Love them, but I have to say the X5M is good competition for them. Thing is though, because they handle so much better they make you want to drive faster which imo is the best thing about the range - you just want to relax. I normally drive everything flat out constantly, but range is the only car I don’t do that.
My dad told me that once you have a FFRR, you'll never stop thinking about them. The best, worst car you can own. I got one, I agree. Just different in a way which is hard to explain, despite the costs.
Must be £795 for this massive range rover. The V50's with the 5 cylinder turbo engine got hit with the highest road tax, makes them almost worthless now.
Quick!! Ben needs an interesting Dadcar to review again 😂 On a serious note, there is a point in life where being able to chill out in comfort starts to trump a few things 😅 and that’s also why multi car driveways exist 😈
"Wow, I can't believe how amazing the Dirt Cheap Range Rover turned out to be! 😲 It really shows that you don’t need to break the bank to find a gem. Can't wait to see how it performs on the road! 🚗💨 #BudgetFinds"
There’s a lot of snobbery around SUV’s. I drive a model X (I’m sure there will be eye rolls at that) but it’s bloody brilliant. Rapid, very practical, no road tax or luxury car tax, £7.50 to fully charge and gets about 280-300 miles. Not sure I’d be getting Santa Fe or similar but fun can be had in the fast ones . If I was single I wouldn’t buy one but when you have kids and dogs they work. Also, no engine block to destroy my legs in event of a head on collision. And no, they don’t just randomly burst into flames.
Good for you I’m glad you enjoying your model x and when you get in a head on collision your legs will be saved. That’s the good thing about life we all entitled to get and do what we want with our lives and all should be celebrated even if preferences differ
As an ex L405 SDV8 owner, i was waiting for this video 😂. Its inevitable that you will love it. They are amazing cars. You even start to have perceptions like," i feel like my kids are safer in this.." i know all about it, been there, until it broke down on the M1 😂. I would have another in a heartbeat.
Yeah, that's the way it is with Range Rovers. They're comfortable, awe-inspiring and glorious. Until something goes pop and empties your wallet. Still you've had good Luck with Masaratis and Astons, which can also be disasters. So best of Luck!
Great video Ben as usual. Left field question. I am looking to buy a forward facing car seat for my 2 year old grand daughter. It looks like your daughter was seated in a car seat with an integrated air bag, possibly a Cybex Anoris T2? I was just wondering if she was comfortable in the seat, and whether the research I am sure you undertook convinced you as to the value of air bag integrated seats? Many thanks.
Great question, this was my first use of it. I’ve got another video coming out tomorrow where I use it again in another car. I’m actually really impressed with it.
It is an impressive car, but every time I see a Range Rover it seems to be driven by an ex-Audi driver… you know the drive up to your bumper, try to push you off the road type. I guess it is the perception a Range Rover driver has that makes them a bit pushy. For that reason I would feel much happier in the Avantine.
Your comment on the price you paid fails to take into consideration the terms on which you bought the car. Trade, mates rates etc. RR's are lovely but awful to run. Theft is a true problem
Absolutely agree. Tbf he did say how he got the price, viewer reaching out, trade price but still it’s a bit of a lie to say they’re dirt cheap to buy and in general to run/repair are very expensive.
Gorgeous video. We need more RR content. LR Time had a crack in their suspension arm on their RR. They made a video on their channel as well. Have you checked yours? Would be genuinely interesting to know. Thank you!
@@dadcars Hi Ben, thanks for making the inspection video. Was great seeing the insides of a specialist garage and all those cool cars he had in. LR Time made an update on the RR failure. TH-cam wont let me post a link but the video is titled "Range Rover L405 L494 Safety Concern - Steering Knuckle Failure - Update" Would love to hear your opinion on it. Thank you!
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The full fat Range Rover is a special case. I don't know how they do it but it just feels incredibly special in any model from the last 25 years. It's unlike any other SUV I have driven as well.
I hate to admit it 😭
Jeremy Clarkson has entered the chat 😂
It’s a mentality thing the command driving seat the can do anything go anywhere ability farm or savoy it dose it all nothing else can do what a rangerover dose
As with most Land Rovers they get under your skin in a way other more reliable cars don't. I'm on my second L322 and 4th Land Rover and love them to bits even with their faults.
@@AutomoTom one of the many reasons I switched was the potential for more spanner time fixing stuff. I had a long list of cars that were pretty reliable and it got boring doing nothing but routine maintenance and modifications. I think I have the Land Rover bug now.
I’ve had my 2015 L405 SDV8 for 3 years now & it remains spectacular.
I want no other SUV.
The FFRR is like a Transit van & a Bentley had a baby.
Mine gets used for everything.
The tailgate is a good work bench!
There are rare moments when people admit they were wrong about something and revise their opinion. Thank you for this very honest statement. I would like to emphasize something else: this car is so much more than just a normal vehicle, and it starts right below the automatic selector lever. If you dare to venture off the roads, that's where the true calling of this absolute off-road vehicle begins to unfold. Thank you again from a loyal L322 driver who might decide to get a 405 one day, but then only LWB if the wifey has her way.😁👍🏻
Just think of a Range Rover as a Range Rover and not an SUV!!
It’s incomparable to most suv’s
I'm on my 4th SDV8 Full Fat Rangie (7th Range Rover in total) - go and get it properly rolling road remapped (I only ever use DMS Automotive) and it will transform the car. You won't believe how quick 2.5 tonnes can shift! Fuel economy increased too which was a bonus. Definitely the way it should have come from the factory, 400hp and 750+ torque. My current one is the Euro 6 Autobiography so road tax is lower too, £395 I think. Epic cars!
The biggest problem comes when you think what could I possibly replace it with?
I love my L322 and can’t imagine life without one now.
Love the channel and the journey you are on
I guess you just keep replacing them with younger RRs that are higher spec 🙈
One of the best parts of a person is to not become their ideas and be open to new ways of thinking. Sometimes you can hold yourself back instead of just being honest and open to new things. I used to despise autos but now waft around in one
My theory was I’d be more qualified to hate on them if we owned one… but didn’t anticipate liking it 🙈 I’ll always be honest on this channel even if it’s painful to admit 😅
@@dadcars haha great theory 🙃
Best thing you can do on the SDV8 is change the oil at 5-6000 miles. More so if you do a lot of short journeys, they don’t like short journeys as it causes a lot of incomplete DPF regens, which in turn means more oil dilution.
That’s why you put a “race” dpf on😅
@@AI-Records24 not such a good idea going forward. Since they are looking to implement a stricter particulate test for Euro 5 onwards. All good fun deleting it now. Not so fun having to buy a new DPF when testing changes.
Two things to help with the theft anxiety - switch off keyless entry (a feature I’ve never really valued on my L405) and always double lock the doors when you leave it. I might curse it now, but I think the vast majority of thefts rely on keyless entry - get rid of that and it becomes a lot harder to nick (🤞🤞🤞). Doesn’t help with insurance 😢 but better than nowt!
Funnily enough I find keyless entry with kids to be a really handy feature 😂 but yes this is likely sound advice
One of the first things I did was switch it off. Oh and got the Ghost immobiliser switched over from my previous car. Neither help insurance but as you say it gives a bit of peace of mind.
Yep just get a ghost and stop worrying about it. If someone does try you can laugh at them stalling it on your security camera
Great video Ben, ive only got a baby RR, a 2013 Evoque but i love it! Its my daily, take it to the cash & carry, great for the winters we get up here in NE Scotland. I even deliver people's meat orders to them from my butchers shop if they are snowed in & never been stuck. It only had 32000 miles on it when i bought it 3 years ago and its got 64000 on it now, its needed new tyres, brake discs and pads and thats it! Brilliant! 👍👏👏♥️
Had mine five and a half years and bloody love it! My advice is GET IT MAPPED! Improves the power curve (400bhp/800Nm Torque), takes away the lag at roundabouts and junctions AND improves mpg 🤘🏼😎 Trust me you will never look back!! 0-62 in 5 secs 😮
I’ll look into this!
Thought mapping is to make it m faster and thus eats more fuels
@@sammyg805 Nope but that is a common misconception. Manufacturers set vehicle ecu’s according to the country there are to be sold in to meet emissions rules blah blah. This means that that very often those engines are NOT working efficiently and how they were initially designed to operate. Remapping does what it says on the tin, re-flashing the ecu and engine management systems to retrain them get the best out the unit wether that be power output, fuel economy, removing hesitation/lag/fuel starvation etc. In most cases the various stages of a remap will only benefit the whole picture, how the vehicle drives, performs and even the longevity and reliability of the vehicle as a whole. 😎
That engine was awesome!! Great video...
Thanks Jack! Yeah it’s inconveniently good isn’t it 🙈
12:37 "Let's test the turning circle..." [Drives over a children's playground, over someone's house] "Right..." [and several cars] "...yeah not bad, but I did cheat a little."
Love this. Full Fat and sports in non gangster/footballer specs are lovely cars. Flawed but get under your skin. They feel very safe not only due to the active safety but you will find you drive it slower and you are more relaxed driving it (with all the passive safety aspects of this).
Blind spot light is actually a nice feature
How ironic. I recently just purchased a 2014 same color in Blue RR HSE V6 Supercharged and currently love it.
On the subject of theft proofing, just disable the keyless entry! And do what my local RR dealer does, fit a steering lock! Simples!
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Hi Ben……. I’ve been driving Range Rovers since august 1986!!!!
They’re a bloody good work horse!!! Can tow anything!!! Can carry everything, had a lounge couch in the back the other day!!!
Brilliant seating position!!!
As the original advertisement said for the Range Rover, June 1970,
A CAR FOR ALL REASONS!!!
Regards Ian 👨🎤🇳🇿👍🍸🍸
🙌😅 great comment Ian!
I like a FFRR but over £700 road tax and 2k for insurance, plus the risk of it being nicked! I would have kept the X5
Mine is very similar (age, colour, engine) but poverty-spec and it wasn't cheap when I bought it, but I have had the pleasure of driving it for nearly six years now. I wouldn't do without the deployable side steps and my wife certainly wouldn't. They tell me reliability may be a problem. Still waiting.
That’s good to hear :)
Thanks for this Ben! Petrol head father of 4 boys under 8, your content is gold for me. I’ve been hypothetical window shopping on auto trader RR l405s for few months thinking what if.
Awesome! You’ll enjoy the Multimac video then 🙌 I’ll fit the seat then go for a drive with all 4 kids 😂
Switching is something you would enjoy. I switched to a 2014 L494 SDV8 Autobiography after a very long list of hot hatches and performance cars. I traded in my M2 for the Range Rover. No regrets so far.
I would say it’s best is you are not afraid to get stuck in doing maintenance yourself. I’ve had to do the oil cooler gaskets since buying it. Also replaced both handbrake actuators as they were cracked and causing fault codes and the handbrake to stick on at the most awkward times. I also changed all fluids front to back when I got it bar coolant.
Bad points, my rear differential has started to fail. Unfortunately not something I could tackle myself as the earlier cars the propshaft is threaded at the rear diff end and held to the pinion nut by a threaded retaining nut. Of course that needs a specialist tool that’s £300 alone. So financially it makes sense to get my local specialist to do it.
@@dadcars sweet! Probably the difference between having boys and girls, my boys I suspect would just fight constantly on a row of 4 but I love the idea of one, great bit of kit.
I’ve got 3 boys and keep looking at used cheap family hauler in Germany. We keep landing on Audi S8s and the LR! Might be worth a punt in the future.
I can 100% say I was just like you. I always said why would anyone want a range rover, even if I had the money I would not get one... Well I bought a used 2013 RRSS (L320) with 86k miles for $12,500 USD. I can honestly say it is hands down my favorite daily driver. There is no better everyday cruising vehicle comfort wise, it is so smooth! Now all I want is a newer range rover. I am really looking into a 2017 RRS L405's now.
Just got one of these but LWB from 2020 with the 525hp v8 petrol. Amazing car no SUV comes close unless we talk rolls royce but these are close for 10-20% of the price. Amazing cars. Uploaded a video from the backseat aswell. Like first class plane on wheels, brillisnt.
I’d love to try one of those
@@dadcarshit me up if you are in sweden and we can arrange it.
Very interesting to hear your perspective from the angle of not wanting to like it! Just demonstrates that many of the Range Rover naysayers out there need to drive one/live with one first before drawing conclusions! Fingers crossed it’s a painless ownership experience for you!
Yep, I’ve been very judgemental of them over the years as excessive and unnecessary which in many ways is still true but I can’t deny the appeal anymore 🙈
This is literally how I felt before changing to a RR recently. I came from an Alfa Giulia Veloce. I needed more room, the Stelvio didn’t have a wow factor inside for me. All other SUVs were incredibly boring. But I went with a RR Velar V6 and in my opinion it’s design and lines of the car is even more special than the normal RR. It’s incredibly comfortable to drive and has impressed me so much.
As a driver in a Range Rover you can see ahead far further on the motorway to avoid sudden pile ups. You are also above the spray when it's raining and headlight glare
I'm short sited so I guess the seeing far further ahead wouldn't work for me.
It would still benefit you. You'd just see everything later than normal sighted people.
I currently have a 2013 sdv8 in aintree green for sale after deciding to go back to a defender (classic) I love defenders but I’m thinking maybe I’ve made a mistake after driving the Range Rover the other day 😅 I wish I could keep both but insurance won’t allow it.
Mine has been pretty reliable, apart from an alternator, so was my previous l322 which I serviced myself every 5k and sold to a friend who still uses it daily, that one has just ticked over 190k.
Amazing cars, but they definitely get under your skin and that can be costly, but imo definitely worth it for the driving experience, which is unmatched.
Enjoy!
How much
I actually really like this model of Range Rover. The ‘wanker tank’ image of SUV’s really puts me off them in general, but I totally get why you’d end up really liking it for all the reasons you explained. Great review as always 👍
Had mine for 6 months. Can’t see me getting anything different anytime soon. It’s fantastic. I stuck a Ghost and a Scorpion tracker on mine. I don’t live too far from where you film and I’m paying £1000 with Hastings.
Good idea I’ll look into it :)
@@dadcars auto air communications in Eastleigh came out and did mine. 👍👍
Thanks mate I really enjoyed and valued your clip and passionate enthusiasm. God Bless
Thanks for watching :)
I hope you make it safely to any upcoming northern destinations, if you take this Ben! 😁🦊
you can buy parts surprisingly cheap from Britpart, LR Direct and others. Dont buy from a dealer and there are landrover specialists offering servicing much cheaper than GBP600.
my 3 litre Diesel is plenty adequate 130000KM no issues, serviced every 10000km. Probably a generation thing, being 78 retired British Motor Dealer. V * has issue reports too
My mate just bought one and he LOVES it. I hated big cars too but have an L322 now and I love it 😅
What’s happening to us 🙈😭
@@dadcars Getting old before our time!
The controls on this are so much better than the newest model - it’s too spartan looking now. Maybe there will still be some well cared for examples of these for me to buy!
You could get a lovely L405 for 20k
Had mine 8 years never had any big issues and defo never had to spend 2k a year on serving just a give it the big service every year @ £500 replacing all the filters oil etc
Wow that’s great to hear
@@dadcars and with regards to the back box on your vid yesterday get the rear silencer’s deleted should cost around £240 transforms the sound of the car
Things like the fullsize RR, discovery, Land Cruiser, X5, and Cayenne get the pass imo because they’re actually useful as far as towing and off road are concerned
What percentage of those vehicles are used to tow or go off road though 😅
@@dadcars go to your local livestock market and find out for yourself 😅 it’s the shit crossover econoboxes that I can’t stand, as they literally offer nothing over a hatchback. Oh and SUV coupes I especially hate
Nice review Ben…. Relocate your OBD port. It saved my Discovery 4 a couple of times. Yes, it won’t cheapen your insurance or stop them trying, but your car will be there when you return. Costs nothing and takes minutes….. the Ghost is excellent and maybe you can get a sponsored deal but at full price they are quite prohibitive for a 15k older vehicle. They do make sense for a 100k car though of course!
For servicing go and see West 4x4, you won’t regret it.
the FF RR is very nice, consider an IID gap tool as it will help diagnose any issue a lot easier :)
Thanks!
Wow Frank that’s far too generous 🥹 thank you 🙌 I’ll put it towards the first breakdown!
@@dadcars Your welcome Ben. I hope It'll never break down.
Never had one but fancied one got an X6 which is my Work horse and it's fantastic My jag XK is my love 😂 chalk and cheese Interested to see how you get on with it. The reliability reputation always scared me off
Welcome to the other side. I have friends that gave me crap for buying a 2007 L322 Supercharged about 6 years ago. They have no clue how great these are! They can do it all!
Range Rovers have a similar effect to a Ferrari when behind the wheel. They just feel special but it’s hard to say why.
Agree nothing i have driven including my Ferraris make you feel so special.
Jeez Ben, whats happened? you've changed😂
Funny you should mention theft anxiety, I had that myself a couple of weeks ago, so much so i pulled out of buying a car i'd love to own. If they want to steal it when its left somewhere thats one thing, but breaking into the house for the keys, thats another level and the thing that unfortunately put me off
Yeah the anxiety of that based on the car and location is a horrible concern
Put a Lotus Evora 2010 on the list? Prices getting sensible and an alu tub chassis will make for some good videos....only half the weight of the RR. lol
I have to resist the urge to drive one of these.
It would look ridiculous outside my tiny bungalow 😂
But they're so cheap right now.
Love Range Rover ,beautiful kids ,thanks ❤️🏴👍
Range Rovers are just the best i really cannot understand how cheap they are., and your one is just amazing value.
Yep!
Hi Ben. Hope you and family are doing well.
I loved the video. Live the color of that Range Rover. Love the leather everywhere inside too.
How's the Bluey mobile doing? That's what my wife and i call the Avantime. We both love it. I watched James's video he did with the Avantime.
Stay safe and take care.
The Avantime has properly broken! I need to make another video on it 🙈
Strange it doesnt have the wooden steering wheel, one of the favourite things about mine 👍 maybe could retro fit as they feel properly special
@4:53 You're a legend. Someone's been watching WWE.
Check your front knuckles mate just to make sure they haven’t got any cracks 👍
Inspection video coming very soon!
Love the fact you're in the throws a being converted😂, i had a 2015 sdv8 autobiography and i spent about £4500 in 2 years on maintenance which included a new oil cooler and front lower control arms both of which you're gonna end up doing soon. The rest was 6 services in 20k miles as too many short runs was messing up the oil, but the mrs loved it and the kids loved it and i couldn't imagine owning anything else now which is why we've just upgraded to a 2017 5.0 sc autobiography with all the options 😂
That sounds like a reasonable amount of money for 2 years
@dadcars honestly these cars aren't as scary as people make them out too be, find yourself a good independent specialist ( who frankly seem too know more than the jlr dealers) and you'll be no worse off than running a q7 or x5 both of which have there own issues. I'm like you, a massive petrol head with young kids and I want to let them learn the emotions we attach to the cool cars we own, they love seeing what nutty thing I buy next🤣🤣
Hi great video, I have a 18 plate sport and absolutely love it. I’ve had some nice cars in the past but nothing compares to the sport for comfort. What cameras do you currently use for your videos. Keep up the great content.
Gh5 is the primary camera
I share your opinions on SUVs. However, the Range Rover, pre-dates the term SUV by decades. It's a proper, purpose built luxury offroader that has serious ability. It is not a jacked-up road car with an inflated body. It's ok to dislike SUVs but still like Range Rovers. I had a late 4.4TDV8 L322 and in many ways enjoyed owning that as a toy more than my C6 RS6. The RS6 is mental fast and sounds fantastic and I love it. But the Range Rover was just such a nice place to be and was so versatile.
You need to get yourself a decent steering wheel lock - stoplok pro or disclock to reduce theft anxiety
That’s interesting, I really want a C6 RS6. That engine with the practicality of an estate is such a special combo
@@dadcars the RS6 is fabulous. Superb and I love it. Only slight criticism is the ride is a bit firm and it does like a drink. Mind you, on a motorway run it can average 28mpg if you're careful on the loud pedal.
Next up for you is the gearbox oil & filter change and the rest of the fluids diffs etc…..
Yeah I’ll do a video that covers this :)
Currently on the look out for one of these. 2015 onwards. Never done so much research into buying a car and I’m still a bit nervous 😅. Being a mechanic should keep the service and general repair costs down. Which will leave money to cover the price of parts when the big stuff breaks 💀.
Good luck with your hunt!
Matt from High Peak Autos channel has good advice - always leave a couple of £000's for ongoing maintenance / repair costs when buying RRs. Don't think you will be able to skimp
@@daiwatkins1984 even the big stuff isn’t too bad. My rear differential has just started to complain. Took it to a local specialist and they could confirmed my suspicions. The diff comes in at £2700, not bad considering it’s the locking diff. Needs a “special tool” literally a piece of 10mm plate cut to resemble a spanner with a 3/8 drive hole at the end for removing and torquing the prop shaft to the pinion nut. That’s £300 alone, if you can get one. If you did the diff yourself there is a £600 refundable surcharge so could cost as little as £2100.
Please don’t talk down the 3 ltr. I bought my 3 ltr because of 2 things. Firstly the tax. For mine it’s £385. Secondly it’s the economy. I regularly commute between Kent and the Yorkshire Dales and I average 44 mpg!!! It just rolls along at the maximum permitted speed, in supreme comfort, whisper quiet, sipping diesel. I love it!
Yeah it’s what you hear, but from people who know, they say if looked after the 3L V6 is still a great engine :)
It’s not about looking after the v6 just how lucky you are. They have a design fault
I’ve a v8 l405, my third rangie, i’ve had them for 12 years. My other car is a 911 turbo - sorry but v8 RRs are undisputed best all round cars, ever. If you know you know. Although the previous model was more fun - you had to really drive it, scandy flick it into bends, where as the l405 is more forgiving and car like, lost some majesty
As a car trader I’ve had many. Love them, but I have to say the X5M is good competition for them. Thing is though, because they handle so much better they make you want to drive faster which imo is the best thing about the range - you just want to relax. I normally drive everything flat out constantly, but range is the only car I don’t do that.
Love the car but just don't think it justifies the running costs :(
When discussing the engine, you skipped over the 3.0 and 5.0 petrol options. They would be my preference.
My dad told me that once you have a FFRR, you'll never stop thinking about them. The best, worst car you can own. I got one, I agree. Just different in a way which is hard to explain, despite the costs.
Brilliant!
Interested to see how you make this secure and how easy that is!
Yep I’m in it! I’ll make a video :)
looking forward to future videos..
🙌😊
I’ve got a Volvo v60 and the road tax is £620. £700 road tax is ridiculous. Which ones are cheaper?
Must be £795 for this massive range rover. The V50's with the 5 cylinder turbo engine got hit with the highest road tax, makes them almost worthless now.
you can get the delay at pull away mapped out. RR put it in there so it would drive like a S class.
Yeah need to look into this
Quick!! Ben needs an interesting Dadcar to review again 😂 On a serious note, there is a point in life where being able to chill out in comfort starts to trump a few things 😅 and that’s also why multi car driveways exist 😈
🙈🙈🙈 thank you Albert! 🙌 yes I need to sell the X5 quick and buy a V8 for me!
This is just a wholesome video overall
"Wow, I can't believe how amazing the Dirt Cheap Range Rover turned out to be! 😲 It really shows that you don’t need to break the bank to find a gem. Can't wait to see how it performs on the road! 🚗💨 #BudgetFinds"
They are absolutely amazing vehicles!
Shitboxes they are.
Owned one a few years ago,for 2 weeks,never again.
Try driving a 535d or 340d etc. Lovely cruisers
I agree, great value too
There’s a lot of snobbery around SUV’s. I drive a model X (I’m sure there will be eye rolls at that) but it’s bloody brilliant. Rapid, very practical, no road tax or luxury car tax, £7.50 to fully charge and gets about 280-300 miles. Not sure I’d be getting Santa Fe or similar but fun can be had in the fast ones . If I was single I wouldn’t buy one but when you have kids and dogs they work. Also, no engine block to destroy my legs in event of a head on collision. And no, they don’t just randomly burst into flames.
You can't compare a Tesla to a Range Rover. A bicycle has no road tax but it's still a bicycle.
Will be taxed from next year onwards - and that 7.50 is at home, be honest. Doubt that’ll last long either!
I genuinely love the model X doors, they are not just a gimmick
Good for you I’m glad you enjoying your model x and when you get in a head on collision your legs will be saved. That’s the good thing about life we all entitled to get and do what we want with our lives and all should be celebrated even if preferences differ
"I was worried it would be too high for you..." as she scales the north face of the Eiger.
lol, she is a great climber 😂
I got quoted £11k for insurance using your vehicle, 53yrs old and an unblemished history, shame as I’d love one of these
Did you try a comparison site? Unless you live in central London I’m sure you could get a far better price
@@dadcars it’s Bham akin to a war zone 😂
RFL £785 I think, insurance ££££. Dealers 1 out of 10. Other than that, nice car.
Morning Ben, I see you doing a great job of disliking the Rangie 😂, Marcus
It’s all gone wrong Marcus… I need help 🙈
Serous help 😂
if its looked after, it will look after you, in style
As an ex L405 SDV8 owner, i was waiting for this video 😂. Its inevitable that you will love it. They are amazing cars. You even start to have perceptions like," i feel like my kids are safer in this.." i know all about it, been there, until it broke down on the M1 😂. I would have another in a heartbeat.
Never knew why anyone hates a Range Rover just as accept it for what it is a large luxury barge
I do occasionally get comments from people who swear they were a reliability nightmare for them and that’s why they’d stay away from them
@@dadcars they are unreliable but I still love them
Netherlands road tax is 800 per 3 months .. 😢
Yeah, that's the way it is with Range Rovers. They're comfortable, awe-inspiring and glorious. Until something goes pop and empties your wallet. Still you've had good Luck with Masaratis and Astons, which can also be disasters. So best of Luck!
How did a code reader, by clearing the codes, repair the faults, clearing codes does not fix the route cause ?
Put my keys in hack proof wallet, Garaged at night
Checked insurance for me and it’s £800
Not bad! X5 was £300 for us
Great video Ben as usual. Left field question. I am looking to buy a forward facing car seat for my 2 year old grand daughter. It looks like your daughter was seated in a car seat with an integrated air bag, possibly a Cybex Anoris T2? I was just wondering if she was comfortable in the seat, and whether the research I am sure you undertook convinced you as to the value of air bag integrated seats? Many thanks.
Great question, this was my first use of it. I’ve got another video coming out tomorrow where I use it again in another car. I’m actually really impressed with it.
i love my Rarange Rover. have the p400e right now.
Turn off the keyless entry! Simple.
Love these but lost me at £2k + for insurance
That’s what’s losing huge amounts of RR owners
I get the feeling well be seeing Tom Lenthall from Tom Lenthall Ltd a lot on Dadcars. :)) Just kiddin`.
lol 😂
Hi Ben get a ghost immobiliser
I’m looking into it all! I will make a video about it 😊
It is an impressive car, but every time I see a Range Rover it seems to be driven by an ex-Audi driver… you know the drive up to your bumper, try to push you off the road type. I guess it is the perception a Range Rover driver has that makes them a bit pushy. For that reason I would feel much happier in the Avantine.
Your comment on the price you paid fails to take into consideration the terms on which you bought the car. Trade, mates rates etc. RR's are lovely but awful to run. Theft is a true problem
Absolutely agree. Tbf he did say how he got the price, viewer reaching out, trade price but still it’s a bit of a lie to say they’re dirt cheap to buy and in general to run/repair are very expensive.
Comments usually made by people who have never sat in one, let alone owned one. Heaven preserve us from these half-wits.
You can 💯 buy these for low teens now,
PS: My insurance this year, fully comprehensive, was £360! Perhaps I live in a desirable area?
Gorgeous video. We need more RR content. LR Time had a crack in their suspension arm on their RR. They made a video on their channel as well. Have you checked yours? Would be genuinely interesting to know. Thank you!
Got an inspection video coming very soon!
@@dadcars Let's hope it goes well!
@@dadcars Hi Ben, thanks for making the inspection video. Was great seeing the insides of a specialist garage and all those cool cars he had in. LR Time made an update on the RR failure. TH-cam wont let me post a link but the video is titled "Range Rover L405 L494 Safety Concern - Steering Knuckle Failure - Update" Would love to hear your opinion on it. Thank you!
Carly doesn’t work on discovery 5 will read fault but nothing else
Lovely children. The 4th one will be a boy 😂. I think they chose the car for you. Good choice.