I paid like 1 year ago btw only like 75$ for 2,5" 1TB SSDs and cheap enclosures with USB 3.2 Made multiple ones for friends and family since some were very unhappy with external, overheating NVMe drives or high speed USB sticks. I also tried out some NVMe enclosures and all i can say: most of them sucks, and some dont care at all about thermals and most throttle too heavy (and somehow timer based, totally fked up!) Well, i personally stick to 2,5" SATA enclosures and 550MB/s maximum read AND write 24/7 aslong NVMe is easily too overpowered and small. Its like Intel CPUs.... I mean they perform ok, but are way too hot.
As you mentioned, this is mainly useful when transferring hundreds of gigs at a time (you cited 500+) - that being said, 99% of the people watching this video would not benefit from the fan.
Cloud storage solutions have actually worked the best for me since I have a 1GBPS unlimited connection at my place However when it comes to storing things locally I've always preferred external drives anyway since I do a lot of back and forth between my windows desktop and mac. Good video will give this ssd a try sometime!
@@CloodyTube OneDrive Office Home gets you 1TB Storage on 5 accounts. So you may keep your main account storage as the active drive and use the other 4 as archive drives. Also with a good connection files on demand feature works great on windows and macos both. Moreover the ondedrive android and iphone apps are also good. OneDrive and OneNote are my go to storage/note taking solution as for me cross platform compatibility is import as I have windows desktop, mac as laptop, iphone as the main phone and an android device as the secondary device so ecosystem of my own works the best for me. Hehe
Have two of these. One I'd purchased a year ago and one recently. Look the same but there's a slight hardware revision, both have same exact performance but show up slightly different in system information. Strongly recommend! Excellent products!
@@CreatedTech thanks I think I might have actually missed that one :) will check it out! keep up the great work mate! your m1 videos have been soo incredibly helpful!
Doubt that fan does any notable difference in cooling when compared to that Sabrent. The Fledging has more surface area than the Sabrent so that could be why it cooled down a bit quicker and being couple degrees cooler when under stress. That fan probably does 1 or mayyyybe 2 degree difference and the rest is due to the surface area like I mentioned.
Honestly speaking, I don't want to risk losing my hard drive, or get it corrupted. I think in my opinion, it would be safe to simply use 1TB One drive cloud storage instead or just pay apple for the upgraded storage.
Or don't pay Apple a single Cent. I find it so extremely funny, that Apple is doing EVERYTHING to fuck their Customers over, yet they'll still come and pay a Fortune. I might suggest not giving away your Kdney in order to finance a bigger Drive from Apple. I might also suggest to not give those greedy MoFos a single Cent. They solder on the SSD to the Motherboard. And there are exactly 0 technical Reasons to do so. It's to fuck you over. Didn't give away your Kidney for bigger Storage? Sucks to be you. Your SSD broke? Oh well, sucks to be you. Sorry, you can't just swap it in 5 Minutes, you'll need to replace the whole Machine, because we fucking hate you :)
So I recently did a lot of research into getting an NVMe drive for video editing on my Macbook, but after seriously reviewing all the factors, I personally think that it's a much better idea to spend $200 to jump the Macbook's internal drive from 500GB to 1TB. (Or even spend the $600 for the 2TB) Paying the Apple Tax hurts a lot, yeah - but I think 1TB of internal storage is better than 2TB of external storage that you have to carry with you everywhere you go, and always plug and unplug to do anything. And what I ended up deciding would be best was to spend like $150 TOTAL to get an HUGE external HDD and HDD enclosure that stays at my desk. I ended up using a 5TB Western Digital Drive, and that now acts as my long-term storage for old projects and media, which is the main thing I need a bunch of space for anyway. Now my current projects live on my Mac, and then get moved to the hard drive when they're done. I feel like this system works far better, while being cheaper AND giving you 6TB for $450 vs. 2TB for $350.
For an old Macbook, yes. Upgrade to a bigger capacity internal SSD. But for newer M1 Macs, that is just not possible so an external ssd is our only option.
When I bought my 256GB Macbook in 2017 I thought that I would just use a 1GB Samsung T5. And, well, I did. However it is such a pain in the ass to plug it in everytime. The mobility factor of a thin and light laptop gets lost very quickly when you have to carry around your external SSD with you. And it is a pain to use it on your lap.
Yeh - I used to have 4TB in my intel MBP but downgraded to 2TB for the M1 Max. I think 2TB is enough for day to day carry without externals and then i can offload to cheaper storage.
I just went ahead and got the 2 tb drive too, I was going to spend a couple hundred on some good external drives and then have to carry them around. I weighted my pros and cons and decided just to spend the extra money but for me it was worth it
I mean a fan like that would be good for removing hot air from inside the enclosure, but there will be a diminishing effect without something like a heat sync. a fan by itself just isnt enough.
Actually there is an APFS driver available for Windows. There are utilities that allow you to read APFS drives available from more than one source, but Paragon Software has a driver which allows you to read and write to APFS drives natively in Windows 10 (and I would assume Windows 11).
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"thermal throttle quite a lot" lol..... Just ran out of cache. Not "and also ran out of cache".
I had a Fledging drive, and when it worked, it worked great. But started randomly disconnecting after about three months until it would no longer fire up. Tried to save it, but could never get it back. The drive worked fine in another enclosure.
For the fan to do it’s work there should be an opening in the enclosure. Outlet for hot air and inlet for cold fresh air. The warm air will keep on circulating if enclosere is closed off. Maybe even some air channels to and from the fan for efficient airflow.
I looked at the product online and there seems to be a few openings on the side of the housing. Judging by the positioning of the fan seen in this video, the fan discharges directly through those holes.There is additional holes on the other side. (The Amazon listing has quite a few photos…)
I couldn't see if there's any hole to act as exhaust. when the fan spins with the enclosure at over 40 degrees C, the air will be warm. where does this air go?
This was fun to watch and unexpected! We're so happy to hear you recommend our Shell Enclosure. Just so everyone knows, our Shell Thunders that come with a Phison SSD are Intel-certified!
"Large SSD's are expensive in Macbooks" "Upgrade your macbook w/ an external SSD" 1:07 "SSD Drive" 3:10 "Building a custom SSD Drive" 4:40 "Brand new Custom SSD Drive" KMS
Thin about it... If your SD card need 250 mb/s max to record the highest settings on your camera (and it is the case unless you own an Arri Alexa large format or a Black Magic 12K basically...), then why would you ned a 3Gb/s external drive?! You don't need this at all. Everyone who ever put a PC or a server together knows that the OS is fetching the files on the slower drives by utilizing the speed of the faster drive, that should only be used for your applications. For instance, I'm using a 2TB FireCuda HDD which is really really good and stable, whisper-quiet, solid, pro and cost me 100 bucks instead of 2.5 or 3x the cost even for an NVMe, which I do not absolutely not need. Get this, copy your entire desktop folders and directories on it, back it up onto one or two bare 3.5" 7200RPM hard drives, make an ISO image of your system on a NVMe (I recommend the ADATA Swordfish they're the only ones at a decent price and just as good as any other name brand!), and *erase all the folders from your laptop*. Now not only do you have a clean laptop and a faster system, but if anyone find your laptop and steal it, *you and your client's property is safe because none of the actual content is on the laptop.* Just about nobody actually need external storage to be at NVMe speed. OK, if your whipping out 3D renders for a major Hollywoodian picture on a M1 Max while chatting with David Soderbergh on your plane to LA, you actually do, but what's that? 0.0001% of the industry's professionals? Come on now.
After experiencing that sabrent die from overheating only a couple weeks in of using it, and just well seeing this that this doesn't help still. Just definitely, I'm sticking to trusty 2.5" sata ssds. At least besides the added bulk, they don't get hot. And with usb flash drives, I stick to usb 2.0 sticks. Every single usb 3 stick I've tried just gets super hot, just can't trust them. At least tryst usb 2 ones I can depend on, even if they're slow, at least they're consistent and I know they're not going to be overheating come 30 minutes later of transfering something big. Usb 2 sticks, and 2.5" sata ssds, while there's many bad bunch.. definitely more trustworthy in my experience.
I've got a better Solution for all ya guys: Don't buy a Macbook. Don't buy a MS Surface either. Don't buy a Device, where the Manufacturer soldered on the SSD, it's that simple. There is ONLY 1 Reason to do this: To fuck the Customer over. Yes sure, it might safe a Millimeter of Profile internally, that could be accieved in other Ways. No, there is NO technical Reason to solder on the SSD. The only Reason is, that is is EXTREMELY anti Consumer. Because now you are forced to pay a Fortune for bigger Storage upfront. You are forced to carry around Shit, if you chose the Capacity to small. You are forced to throw your 2000$ Device in the Trash, when the SSD breaks. Because instead of swapping a SSD in 5 Minutes for a few Bucks, you'll need a whole new 2000$ Laptop, congrats! So I might suggest to not buy Products, that are designed to Fuck you over.
I wish there was a drive format that is compatible for all OS other than exFAT. I'm using windows 10 on my PC, BlackArch on my laptop and Monterey on my MacBook. I use a USB stick with exFAT to transfer and open my work files across my devices, it is useable but not really efficient. It's a bit slow when transferring files and I'm kinda annoyed when seeing many .temp files on File Explorer because I opened the files on my MacBook.
its funny how they dare to offer 256 gb version knowing thats almost nothing in 2022 and people accept this kind of scam. They get more money on icloud storage which we HAVE TO buy and cashflow is going to be stable for decades or even more because all ur information is there. Got 14inch with 1tb and 32 gbs and more I use this product more I understand how expensive is owning mac is. Little details from buying ports and not how aggressively u need to buy ONLY APPLE Product because even my razer mouse can't connect to it. Apple is so bad.
Not worth the $360 for a small fan on the inside. You should be using a RAID system to edit your videos or rendering large graphics files like 3D. I have a Samsung T5 external SSD and it works fine with no overheating or loss of speed and using an empty SanDisk 1TB SSD for the scratch disk space. When using certain apps in Adobe Cloud that allows the option. A lot of reviews on Amazon report of drive overheating or crashing due to editing or copy files over.
NO! Don't need a fan. All jokes aside, I put my laptop and ssd drives in my freezer when I'm using them, so that way, they never overheat. But if you're gonna do this, open the freezer door every so often. PROBLEM SOLVED!
The major problem here is the same as with a lot of the other youtubers. A normal workload of a user does not involve moving 250Gig around. There is a nice video out from Linus Tech Tips where they compared different SSDs with standard and gaming workloads and even the cheapest SSDs had been similar results to the fastest. For a normal User a T5 or T7 or something similar is a good choice. If you are cutting videos on a daily basis (which is about 0.01% of the use cases), this video is interesting for you. Otherwise just make sure you have a decent and large enough SSD in case you need more storage then the Macbook provides out of the box.
Awesome video, though there's something I couldn't warp my head around. In your test with the Fledging you did open the case to see how sensitive the fan was, put under heavy load. Which means the thermal pad was disconnected to the enclosure and thus not dissipating heat as efficiently as we would have wanted to. In your benchmark, did you manage to compare them with the Fledging fully closed ( with the thermal pad ) ? I'd be interested to know what kind of difference that made. Best regards.
At 6:00 you forgot to mention Tuxera NTFS for Macs is a thing that also exists and allows you to have your Mac read and write to NTFS disks easily, meaning you can use that instead of exFAT and have it work with both Windows and Macs
Trippin, that enclosure is hella overpriced because the unique aspect of cooling in it, at least I never seen any that have cooling but I will stick to a sabrent $30 enclosure. I never had one of these drives run so hot that I need cooling but I also don't do a lot of 4k video editing or anything. But for your average person this is overkill
I couldn't see any air vents on that case with the fan. How does the cool air get in and the heated air get out? If all it is doing is circulating the warm air inside then most of the cooling effect will be by having the case in a cool environment and hope the heat will dissipate through the case.
Man, I did not know these SSDs are THIS FAST nowadays. I checked my good old WD Green SSD and it reads 360MB/s and writes 80MB/s. I thought it was fast already lol. Looks like I would be upgrading. Thanks for the great video! Intro was funny man I had a good laugh 😂
@@chasechase24 gotta remember eventually itll be choked due to cache. M.2 SSDs are greater for reads and fast writes in short bursts. Not hammering it constantly with long writes. Won't kill it but don't expect much more than a solid SSD.
@@christopherfortney2544 oh I did not know that. Thanks for your insight! I would use it just for everyday use like transfering files to free up space from my Mac every now and then
If you use an nvme with tlc with a dram cache the transfer will be much more consistent that a qlc drive with slc cache that slows dows to almost hdd rates once the cache has been filled
Great video, avoid the Samsung T7 everyone hypes them up but the longevity is terrible they eventually overheat really bad and will leak out the thermal paste
Great video mate. Reckon you might be doing one comparing a 4K video export using your internal SSD and one with these [external] drives? I think the question is on a lot of people's mind.
Hey Liam, any chance of an update to this video with an enclosure that is still available? Enjoyed the video but then went to explore all of the parts required and it looks like fledging went out of business end of 2022
Oh, did not know they had gone out of business! As far as I know there are no other SSD enclosures with a fan. Honestly I'd just go with the Sabrent XTRM-Q I compared against in this video. After this video I mostly used the XTRM-Q because I used the NVMe drive in the Fledging in my gaming computer. Have had no issues with the XTRM-Q. Super fast, robust, yes it does get hot when transferring massive amounts of data but still wasn't a huge deal for me personally.
Only a tiny percentage of people know what SSD stands for. So even though you’re technically correct, sometimes it’s just easier to say “SSD drive” so others with little technical knowledge still know what you’re talking about.
I also bought some nvme enclosures and tested 2 different SSDs. In fact nearly all of the enclosures share the same problem which barely anyone tells (i talk about the USB3.2 enclosures with 650-700MB/s max speed): i guess 95% of these enclosures dont give a sh*t about temperature... some dont throttle at all (up to dangerous or at least very fast degrading temperatures) and the rest is using anything like a timer.... the longer the SSD is writing "full speed", the heavier it throttles down. Some enclosures allow only about 80-90MB/s average because most of the time their speed is limited to 200MB/s read and 50MB/s write. BUT: The heavy throttling ones are still my favorite. I can write like 100-150GB of files fulll speed, in this time they get handwarm or nearly hot, but then they throttle down heavily. Even throttled the enclosure still keep handwarm at least, when writing they get and stay hot no matter how slow (like avg 100MB/s) they are. Where the throttling gets annoying... if you read from a slow HDD... the chips in the enclosure still count for example 80MB/s as "heavy load", resulting in triggering the throttling, but the SSD gets at best handwarm. This is slowing down even the already slow transfer due the HDD... Thats why the 2,5" enclosures are the best: - you get stable 500-550MB/s, ALWAYS, no throttling, no heat problems - as i built mine, 2,5" SATA SSDs were a lot cheaper than NVMe - more ergonomic... i dont know why, but i prefer the 2,5" size much over the slim nvme cases. I mean we have to realize... they are more or less used on "huge" notebooks or desktop PCs, its not a USB stick you want on your keychain... Im waiting a while for proper thunderbolt 4 enclosures and then enjoy the full 2000MB/s. Hopefully SSDs and the chips in enclosures itself get more efficient then because the NVMe cases are more or less only thermal limited when they dont have other stupid safety limitations like the timer to throttle down speed.
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The intro is lame. Just get to the point moving forward.
Cringe. Stop shilling you sellout.
I paid like 1 year ago btw only like 75$ for 2,5" 1TB SSDs and cheap enclosures with USB 3.2
Made multiple ones for friends and family since some were very unhappy with external, overheating NVMe drives or high speed USB sticks.
I also tried out some NVMe enclosures and all i can say: most of them sucks, and some dont care at all about thermals and most throttle too heavy (and somehow timer based, totally fked up!)
Well, i personally stick to 2,5" SATA enclosures and 550MB/s maximum read AND write 24/7 aslong NVMe is easily too overpowered and small. Its like Intel CPUs.... I mean they perform ok, but are way too hot.
Does this work with Android phones?🙏
As you mentioned, this is mainly useful when transferring hundreds of gigs at a time (you cited 500+) - that being said, 99% of the people watching this video would not benefit from the fan.
That opening with your cat was the cutest thing I’ve seen all week
Cloud storage solutions have actually worked the best for me since I have a 1GBPS unlimited connection at my place
However when it comes to storing things locally I've always preferred external drives anyway since I do a lot of back and forth between my windows desktop and mac. Good video will give this ssd a try sometime!
Which format do you use on the external hard drive since you use it on windows and macOS? Also check out Resilio sync
Which cloud do you use or recommend?
@@CloodyTube OneDrive
Office Home gets you 1TB Storage on 5 accounts. So you may keep your main account storage as the active drive and use the other 4 as archive drives. Also with a good connection files on demand feature works great on windows and macos both. Moreover the ondedrive android and iphone apps are also good. OneDrive and OneNote are my go to storage/note taking solution as for me cross platform compatibility is import as I have windows desktop, mac as laptop, iphone as the main phone and an android device as the secondary device so ecosystem of my own works the best for me. Hehe
1GBps.. You've personally opted for it or is the internet normally that fast in your area?
@@srcp1551 I'm sure it's optional, nobody really needs such high internet speeds anyways. I mean, the vast majority would be content with 100 MBps
Have two of these. One I'd purchased a year ago and one recently. Look the same but there's a slight hardware revision, both have same exact performance but show up slightly different in system information. Strongly recommend! Excellent products!
can you please do a full NAS setup & workflow video
Here's my most recent NAS video: th-cam.com/video/ipUBRQgD7TM/w-d-xo.html
I do have more in-depth NAS content coming soon though!
@@CreatedTech thank you, an update to this would rock, love your content.
@@CreatedTech thanks I think I might have actually missed that one :) will check it out! keep up the great work mate! your m1 videos have been soo incredibly helpful!
Doubt that fan does any notable difference in cooling when compared to that Sabrent. The Fledging has more surface area than the Sabrent so that could be why it cooled down a bit quicker and being couple degrees cooler when under stress. That fan probably does 1 or mayyyybe 2 degree difference and the rest is due to the surface area like I mentioned.
You know what would be convenient for Apple’s Pro laptops?
USER UPGRADABLE STORAGE
Honestly speaking, I don't want to risk losing my hard drive, or get it corrupted. I think in my opinion, it would be safe to simply use 1TB One drive cloud storage instead or just pay apple for the upgraded storage.
Or don't pay Apple a single Cent.
I find it so extremely funny, that Apple is doing EVERYTHING to fuck their Customers over, yet they'll still come and pay a Fortune.
I might suggest not giving away your Kdney in order to finance a bigger Drive from Apple. I might also suggest to not give those greedy MoFos a single Cent.
They solder on the SSD to the Motherboard. And there are exactly 0 technical Reasons to do so. It's to fuck you over. Didn't give away your Kidney for bigger Storage? Sucks to be you.
Your SSD broke? Oh well, sucks to be you. Sorry, you can't just swap it in 5 Minutes, you'll need to replace the whole Machine, because we fucking hate you :)
Cat is divine
So I recently did a lot of research into getting an NVMe drive for video editing on my Macbook, but after seriously reviewing all the factors, I personally think that it's a much better idea to spend $200 to jump the Macbook's internal drive from 500GB to 1TB. (Or even spend the $600 for the 2TB) Paying the Apple Tax hurts a lot, yeah - but I think 1TB of internal storage is better than 2TB of external storage that you have to carry with you everywhere you go, and always plug and unplug to do anything.
And what I ended up deciding would be best was to spend like $150 TOTAL to get an HUGE external HDD and HDD enclosure that stays at my desk. I ended up using a 5TB Western Digital Drive, and that now acts as my long-term storage for old projects and media, which is the main thing I need a bunch of space for anyway. Now my current projects live on my Mac, and then get moved to the hard drive when they're done. I feel like this system works far better, while being cheaper AND giving you 6TB for $450 vs. 2TB for $350.
Good one. The built in 2TB is great, no regrets!
For an old Macbook, yes. Upgrade to a bigger capacity internal SSD. But for newer M1 Macs, that is just not possible so an external ssd is our only option.
When I bought my 256GB Macbook in 2017 I thought that I would just use a 1GB Samsung T5. And, well, I did. However it is such a pain in the ass to plug it in everytime. The mobility factor of a thin and light laptop gets lost very quickly when you have to carry around your external SSD with you. And it is a pain to use it on your lap.
Yeh - I used to have 4TB in my intel MBP but downgraded to 2TB for the M1 Max. I think 2TB is enough for day to day carry without externals and then i can offload to cheaper storage.
I just went ahead and got the 2 tb drive too, I was going to spend a couple hundred on some good external drives and then have to carry them around. I weighted my pros and cons and decided just to spend the extra money but for me it was worth it
Would it be possible to install macOS on an external SSD and then boot on it from any computer using the USB-C port 🤔
I mean a fan like that would be good for removing hot air from inside the enclosure, but there will be a diminishing effect without something like a heat sync. a fan by itself just isnt enough.
The fan in this circumstance does little more than circulating hot air. Unless there is some vents underneath there will be zero airflow.
Title should be Upgrade your MacBook STORAGE..... 😒
Actually there is an APFS driver available for Windows. There are utilities that allow you to read APFS drives available from more than one source, but Paragon Software has a driver which allows you to read and write to APFS drives natively in Windows 10 (and I would assume Windows 11).
"thermal throttle quite a lot" lol..... Just ran out of cache. Not "and also ran out of cache".
Your kitty is very cute, and the intro really made me laugh. I have a calico kitty too.
10/10 one of the best intros I have seen in a while.
You should do the 1tb transfer test on t5,t7,DIY plugable drive and hard drive also
What’s this?
I mean I never upgrade anything for my 2019 MacBook Pro
I mostly used my laptop for Roblox game editing
I had a Fledging drive, and when it worked, it worked great. But started randomly disconnecting after about three months until it would no longer fire up. Tried to save it, but could never get it back. The drive worked fine in another enclosure.
Its a nice option to have for large files. Also you can use the iCloud 2 TB storage + slower en cheaper HDD.
For the fan to do it’s work there should be an opening in the enclosure. Outlet for hot air and inlet for cold fresh air. The warm air will keep on circulating if enclosere is closed off. Maybe even some air channels to and from the fan for efficient airflow.
I looked at the product online and there seems to be a few openings on the side of the housing. Judging by the positioning of the fan seen in this video, the fan discharges directly through those holes.There is additional holes on the other side. (The Amazon listing has quite a few photos…)
I couldn't see if there's any hole to act as exhaust. when the fan spins with the enclosure at over 40 degrees C, the air will be warm. where does this air go?
This was fun to watch and unexpected! We're so happy to hear you recommend our Shell Enclosure. Just so everyone knows, our Shell Thunders that come with a Phison SSD are Intel-certified!
Performance is good, what about lifetime of the drive crashing/breaking/losing files?
"Large SSD's are expensive in Macbooks"
"Upgrade your macbook w/ an external SSD"
1:07 "SSD Drive"
3:10 "Building a custom SSD Drive"
4:40 "Brand new Custom SSD Drive"
KMS
Thin about it... If your SD card need 250 mb/s max to record the highest settings on your camera (and it is the case unless you own an Arri Alexa large format or a Black Magic 12K basically...), then why would you ned a 3Gb/s external drive?! You don't need this at all. Everyone who ever put a PC or a server together knows that the OS is fetching the files on the slower drives by utilizing the speed of the faster drive, that should only be used for your applications. For instance, I'm using a 2TB FireCuda HDD which is really really good and stable, whisper-quiet, solid, pro and cost me 100 bucks instead of 2.5 or 3x the cost even for an NVMe, which I do not absolutely not need. Get this, copy your entire desktop folders and directories on it, back it up onto one or two bare 3.5" 7200RPM hard drives, make an ISO image of your system on a NVMe (I recommend the ADATA Swordfish they're the only ones at a decent price and just as good as any other name brand!), and *erase all the folders from your laptop*. Now not only do you have a clean laptop and a faster system, but if anyone find your laptop and steal it, *you and your client's property is safe because none of the actual content is on the laptop.*
Just about nobody actually need external storage to be at NVMe speed. OK, if your whipping out 3D renders for a major Hollywoodian picture on a M1 Max while chatting with David Soderbergh on your plane to LA, you actually do, but what's that? 0.0001% of the industry's professionals? Come on now.
the intro is awesome
After experiencing that sabrent die from overheating only a couple weeks in of using it, and just well seeing this that this doesn't help still. Just definitely, I'm sticking to trusty 2.5" sata ssds. At least besides the added bulk, they don't get hot.
And with usb flash drives, I stick to usb 2.0 sticks. Every single usb 3 stick I've tried just gets super hot, just can't trust them. At least tryst usb 2 ones I can depend on, even if they're slow, at least they're consistent and I know they're not going to be overheating come 30 minutes later of transfering something big.
Usb 2 sticks, and 2.5" sata ssds, while there's many bad bunch.. definitely more trustworthy in my experience.
I've got a better Solution for all ya guys:
Don't buy a Macbook. Don't buy a MS Surface either.
Don't buy a Device, where the Manufacturer soldered on the SSD, it's that simple. There is ONLY 1 Reason to do this: To fuck the Customer over. Yes sure, it might safe a Millimeter of Profile internally, that could be accieved in other Ways. No, there is NO technical Reason to solder on the SSD. The only Reason is, that is is EXTREMELY anti Consumer. Because now you are forced to pay a Fortune for bigger Storage upfront.
You are forced to carry around Shit, if you chose the Capacity to small.
You are forced to throw your 2000$ Device in the Trash, when the SSD breaks. Because instead of swapping a SSD in 5 Minutes for a few Bucks, you'll need a whole new 2000$ Laptop, congrats!
So I might suggest to not buy Products, that are designed to Fuck you over.
I wish there was a drive format that is compatible for all OS other than exFAT. I'm using windows 10 on my PC, BlackArch on my laptop and Monterey on my MacBook. I use a USB stick with exFAT to transfer and open my work files across my devices, it is useable but not really efficient. It's a bit slow when transferring files and I'm kinda annoyed when seeing many .temp files on File Explorer because I opened the files on my MacBook.
its funny how they dare to offer 256 gb version knowing thats almost nothing in 2022 and people accept this kind of scam. They get more money on icloud storage which we HAVE TO buy and cashflow is going to be stable for decades or even more because all ur information is there. Got 14inch with 1tb and 32 gbs and more I use this product more I understand how expensive is owning mac is. Little details from buying ports and not how aggressively u need to buy ONLY APPLE Product because even my razer mouse can't connect to it. Apple is so bad.
Not worth the $360 for a small fan on the inside. You should be using a RAID system to edit your videos or rendering large graphics files like 3D. I have a Samsung T5 external SSD and it works fine with no overheating or loss of speed and using an empty SanDisk 1TB SSD for the scratch disk space. When using certain apps in Adobe Cloud that allows the option. A lot of reviews on Amazon report of drive overheating or crashing due to editing or copy files over.
NO! Don't need a fan. All jokes aside, I put my laptop and ssd drives in my freezer when I'm using them, so that way, they never overheat. But if you're gonna do this, open the freezer door every so often. PROBLEM SOLVED!
The major problem here is the same as with a lot of the other youtubers. A normal workload of a user does not involve moving 250Gig around. There is a nice video out from Linus Tech Tips where they compared different SSDs with standard and gaming workloads and even the cheapest SSDs had been similar results to the fastest. For a normal User a T5 or T7 or something similar is a good choice. If you are cutting videos on a daily basis (which is about 0.01% of the use cases), this video is interesting for you. Otherwise just make sure you have a decent and large enough SSD in case you need more storage then the Macbook provides out of the box.
love your cat 😁😄😂😉
Awesome video, though there's something I couldn't warp my head around.
In your test with the Fledging you did open the case to see how sensitive the fan was, put under heavy load.
Which means the thermal pad was disconnected to the enclosure and thus not dissipating heat as efficiently as we would have wanted to.
In your benchmark, did you manage to compare them with the Fledging fully closed ( with the thermal pad ) ?
I'd be interested to know what kind of difference that made.
Best regards.
Coming from one Australian to another, interesting you said a’lU’minim (American accent) as opposed to alu’MINium. Just an observation 😉
You give good info but your not considering those of us who don’t have a big budget. Could you please include low priced (under $100) as well? Thanks
At 6:00 you forgot to mention Tuxera NTFS for Macs is a thing that also exists and allows you to have your Mac read and write to NTFS disks easily, meaning you can use that instead of exFAT and have it work with both Windows and Macs
Trippin, that enclosure is hella overpriced because the unique aspect of cooling in it, at least I never seen any that have cooling but I will stick to a sabrent $30 enclosure. I never had one of these drives run so hot that I need cooling but I also don't do a lot of 4k video editing or anything. But for your average person this is overkill
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Upgrade??? You mean expand storage space and give me my amazon refferal check. What a bunch of BS.
or maybe just... don't buy a computer that activly exploits the customer? 🤔🤔🤔
I couldn't see any air vents on that case with the fan. How does the cool air get in and the heated air get out? If all it is doing is circulating the warm air inside then most of the cooling effect will be by having the case in a cool environment and hope the heat will dissipate through the case.
Why do you talk like windows is the only thing except for macOS where you can plug in this drive?
Upgrading OS from Catalina to Big sur is impossible once u run out of space in a 128gb MacBook pro!
Dude, this is 200 dollars plus, same as 1 tb inside macbooks, in device storing os much better also, plus i cannot imstall lightroom in a usb drive
Over $200 buck for ssd and the shell .. naaahhh I keep 1T ssd Vansuny drive .. !
The thing I'm wondering most is that as an Aussie, why you said "aluminum", instead of "aluminium".
The enclosure costs Rs. 60000/- or $800/-
But you need the Drive to install program. You can’t use external drive to install program
Can this DIY drive connect to a PC with USB-C, or does it have to have Thunderbolt?
You really are going to review a thunderbolt 3 enclosure instead of a 4 in 2022???
Commercial. Great...
This is not upgrade! this nothing more than using an external ssd. youtubers use such a fancy titles just for likes!
2:15 your Australian and you said Aluminum wrong. you said it the American way.
Stupid case costing more than an ssd? Better pay these extra bucks for your internal normal ssd
Man, I did not know these SSDs are THIS FAST nowadays. I checked my good old WD Green SSD and it reads 360MB/s and writes 80MB/s. I thought it was fast already lol. Looks like I would be upgrading. Thanks for the great video! Intro was funny man I had a good laugh 😂
You won’t really notice the difference unless you frequently do large file transfers.
@@buzzlightyearoh yeah I notice it most when I transfer 4k movies and do timemachine backups
@@chasechase24 gotta remember eventually itll be choked due to cache. M.2 SSDs are greater for reads and fast writes in short bursts. Not hammering it constantly with long writes. Won't kill it but don't expect much more than a solid SSD.
@@christopherfortney2544 oh I did not know that. Thanks for your insight! I would use it just for everyday use like transfering files to free up space from my Mac every now and then
@@jusunglee6673 oh I see. Will look this up. Thank you
Is an official thunderbolt cable from Apple needed for these quick speeds?
If you use an nvme with tlc with a dram cache the transfer will be much more consistent that a qlc drive with slc cache that slows dows to almost hdd rates once the cache has been filled
Very good and interesting video. When I saw the cat walking up the stairs, I was thinking here comes trouble lol
I'm a simple guy. I see a cat being cute, and I like the video. Nice advise, btw.
External drive is terrible experience because when you accidentally hit the port it will disconnect.
I have a video question for you.Is there a free software you recommend to edit or make videos sound better quality?
Great video, avoid the Samsung T7 everyone hypes them up but the longevity is terrible they eventually overheat really bad and will leak out the thermal paste
Does you Synology work with APFS formatted drives?
samsung T5 ,T7 is best option.. sabrent is horribel company..
What about prequel in the drives? Maybe put them in the freezer before you do a transfer?
who tf is gonna spend more on the enclosure then the drive itself...? that absurd dont do that anyone please
Unconfortable to hold at 40 degrees C? Seriously?!?
Almost subscribed because of that cat. More cat stuff. MOREEEE.
Sounds gimcky. That fan would barley do anything.
Great video mate. Reckon you might be doing one comparing a 4K video export using your internal SSD and one with these [external] drives? I think the question is on a lot of people's mind.
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Can I set my coffee cup on it? Seems like a win-win-win if I can keep my coffee warm.
This video is so well shot, coloured and edited.
The smaller the better, what’s the point to put m.2 ssd into a 2.5” case lol
Actually thought the cat was going to present the video "well this is interesting"
Amazing intro lol. Nice breathe of fresh air on TH-cam
do you know what is also super hot?
YOU!!
Informative, and interesting vid
But omg, the amount of ads!
if you added the thermal pad you may have impeded the airflow through the ssd.
Hey Liam, any chance of an update to this video with an enclosure that is still available? Enjoyed the video but then went to explore all of the parts required and it looks like fledging went out of business end of 2022
Oh, did not know they had gone out of business! As far as I know there are no other SSD enclosures with a fan. Honestly I'd just go with the Sabrent XTRM-Q I compared against in this video. After this video I mostly used the XTRM-Q because I used the NVMe drive in the Fledging in my gaming computer. Have had no issues with the XTRM-Q. Super fast, robust, yes it does get hot when transferring massive amounts of data but still wasn't a huge deal for me personally.
I discovered your channel just now dude i love this you just got another active subscriber
I don’t believe that cat was using the MacBook.
can we run mac os in this external drive to save the life of the eternal ssd ?
Have to be picky, sry. But SSD means Solid State Drive. So by talking about SSD drives you're talking about drive drives 😅
Only a tiny percentage of people know what SSD stands for. So even though you’re technically correct, sometimes it’s just easier to say “SSD drive” so others with little technical knowledge still know what you’re talking about.
Take it out of the enclosure and Infront of a big room fan ;)
I wasn't aware the interpretation of upgrading is so grey.
ayee i like the thumbnail and intro my guy. big things are in store for you!
Or you go for the classic 2,5" enclosure and buy SATA III SSD instead, they dont get even warm :)
I also bought some nvme enclosures and tested 2 different SSDs.
In fact nearly all of the enclosures share the same problem which barely anyone tells (i talk about the USB3.2 enclosures with 650-700MB/s max speed):
i guess 95% of these enclosures dont give a sh*t about temperature... some dont throttle at all (up to dangerous or at least very fast degrading temperatures) and the rest is using anything like a timer.... the longer the SSD is writing "full speed", the heavier it throttles down. Some enclosures allow only about 80-90MB/s average because most of the time their speed is limited to 200MB/s read and 50MB/s write.
BUT: The heavy throttling ones are still my favorite. I can write like 100-150GB of files fulll speed, in this time they get handwarm or nearly hot, but then they throttle down heavily. Even throttled the enclosure still keep handwarm at least, when writing they get and stay hot no matter how slow (like avg 100MB/s) they are.
Where the throttling gets annoying... if you read from a slow HDD... the chips in the enclosure still count for example 80MB/s as "heavy load", resulting in triggering the throttling, but the SSD gets at best handwarm. This is slowing down even the already slow transfer due the HDD...
Thats why the 2,5" enclosures are the best:
- you get stable 500-550MB/s, ALWAYS, no throttling, no heat problems
- as i built mine, 2,5" SATA SSDs were a lot cheaper than NVMe
- more ergonomic... i dont know why, but i prefer the 2,5" size much over the slim nvme cases. I mean we have to realize... they are more or less used on "huge" notebooks or desktop PCs, its not a USB stick you want on your keychain...
Im waiting a while for proper thunderbolt 4 enclosures and then enjoy the full 2000MB/s. Hopefully SSDs and the chips in enclosures itself get more efficient then because the NVMe cases are more or less only thermal limited when they dont have other stupid safety limitations like the timer to throttle down speed.
the new cat control on the MacBook is extremely lifelike.
“Let’s build this bad boy” plugs in drive
Every single video you do must include a relevant cat intro
Where can I buy everything I require for a Mac.?
wow! amazing video quality! subbed!
have you tried putting and ice bag on top of them? 😆