Nobody: TheDuelLogs breaking into your house: "So...you're part of the 73% of people who watch these videos and aren't subscribed to this channel, huh?"
Not gonna lie; the first time he uses that line, I'm like, "Oh shit, yeah, I've been really enjoying all of his videos and I'm not even subscribed" and subscribed immediately, so at least he got me there lol
Abdelrahman Elfeky no, Rod searches for cards that list Dark Magician, as in the monster. Timaeus lists dark magician monster as in the archetype. It’s a real dumb restriction, but the card text doesn’t match.
@@abdulrhmanelfeky8534 Nop, Road says a card that specifically list "Dark Magician" (The monster) Timaeus ask for a "Dark Magician" monster (as in Dark Magician or Dark Magician Girl).
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel that “missing timing” is a stupid mechanic in Yu-Gi-Oh? It makes some cards useless in certain conditions that would otherwise make them good, and literally every other mainstream card game doesn’t have anything like that.
I don't think the concept of it is stupid at all. I love the idea of it. But sometimes, it's on cards for no good reason. What makes it a fun concept is that can make for some fun interactions with the opponent, making them either allow the effect, it spend another card(s) or effect(s) to make sure you miss the timing. Falco just doesn't function, so it's a bad place for it. Traptrix Dionaea is another example - yes, resetting a Trap Hole is strong, BUT it automatically banishes the trap at the end phase of the next turn, AND you still can't activate it the same turn it was set. Quasar missing the timing to summon Shooting Star is a good place for it, since it takes work to deal with an Omni negate on legs, the opponent should work to keep you from getting a 3300 destruction negate that can attack up to a potential 5 times.
You could argue that on the right cards it could help to balance them. On the wrong ones, it makes cards that should be good bad because of it. In the latter case, yes I agree
It is an indirect way to nerf a card. Remember that Yang Zhing has a monster on the ban list simply because he doesn't miss timing. Many cards would be too strong without timing
@Solanne These dudes are crazy. Using semantics to balance a card instead of using game mechanics or simply not making busted effects is pure idiocy. Missing timing shouldn't exist. If an effect has fulfilled it activation requirements, other card effects/proper game mechanics not semantics should be the only thing that stops it. Unnecessary headache is unnecessary
To this day. It pains me that Black Metal Dragon didn't just have the Metal Morph Effect built in. And that every retrain/reimagining of Black Metal has had nothing to do with the metal Morph Effect. Their all better cards for it, but it's still a shame that they don't also have the Metal Morph Effect built in.
In a very similar way it pained me the anime and manga would not follow the actual DM TCG rules & mechanics. Making up effects, cards and random plot bs that taught people who wouldn't take the game seriously (sadly like I would) and made playing these games before online methods a fucking hassle
@@danielmflores Kazuki Takahashi never planned yugioh to be one series of card game, that thing just exploded in popularity after Kaiba got beaten up by Exodia. That is just how the manga went, the card game "Yugioh" doesn't even exists in Japan until Battle City arc.
@@CrnaStrela which is pretty messed up, even in GX when they go to "Duel School" they don't follow the TCG rules. Itd be nice was all I said if it followed the mechanics so people could have learned from the anime
@@danielmflores Like he said, it's the other way around. The anime/manga came first, where it was just a fictional card game and the author didn't have to worry about whether it actually work in real life. It wasn't until about halfway through the manga run of Duelist Kingdom that they attempted to adapt it into an actual game (and if you don't know, the first few Japanese sets didn't have effect monsters and only had a small handful of magic/trap cards, so the rules were VERY primitive). When Duelist Kingdom was ending, the author worked with Konami to hammer out the rules so the card game would work better and the manga could match the new real-life card game more closely. So it's not that the characters in duelist kingdom weren't following the TCG rules, it's that the TCG rules just didn't exist. Even in later series, the anime would be written first then the card game would have to try to figure out how the hell to adapt the cards.
It still should have been something that is more fair than hoping you win a coin toss once you are able to get both on the field. It could have just been sacrificing both while they are on the field to special summon it. A difficult requirement to do, but a lot more fair than having to rely on chance.
Dark Sage can be brought out with A Wild Monster Appears but his search spell effect can't be used then and if that effect could be used once each turn like in the anime he'd be rather good
I think a way to "fix" Wall shadow and REDMG would be to a) Make them float back into their original monsters when removed from the field and b) give them better effects. Maybe let REDMG keep Metalmorphs effect and give it 3k attack. And let Wall Shadow attack directly while in defense position Submarineroid style. Still not very good, but then you would at least have a small niche in which using these cards might be useful.
What Monfire said for wall shadow, though it would still be a horrible card, and for black metal dragon have it gain Metalmorphs atk gain effect, still would be horrible but still would be better.
REBMD retcon: "(Summoning condition) (Metalmorph effect) This card is unaffected by spell cards. If this card destroys an opponent's monster by battle, inflict 2400 damage to your opponent OR damage equal to that monster's original attack. (whichever is higher)" Support spell: Metalmorph Salvage Send one "REBMD" or a"Metal Zoa" from your deck to your graveyard to target one monster on your side of the field. Equip, from the deck or graveyard, one "Metalmorph" card to that monster.
Wall Shadow looks like Shadow Ghoul, so maybe give it Shadow Ghoul’s effect (+100atk per monster in your GY) plus attack in defense position? Piercing damage? Treat it like a fiend too?
16:46 Wall Shadow should have had An effect that lets You Special Summon it If You have a Face Up Defense Position Labyrinth Wall, and can't be destroyed by Attacks or Effects as long as Labyrinth Wall is Face Up. And that it had 3000 ATK and 0 Def as perfect complement to Labyrinth Wall
14:30 Imagine Bastion getting support that let him counter All attributes, and actually makes Bonding H2O better (by Say, banish a Bonding H2O from your Hand or GY draw 3 cards) and finally brings that Fire Dragon from The GX Opening
Fun fact about Crop Circle: if you don’t have an appropriate target in your deck, you can’t activate it (same ruling as rota, Stratos and other similar searchers) so its self burn effect cannot trigger.
If you activate butyour opponent chain something that make you discard cards from your deck, milling all your alien monsters, would that make the burn effect happen?
Ah yes, the Wall Shadow. It was useless even when it came out.IAccording to it's effect in the anime, I think the effect should been something like Total Defense Shogun, like the monster could attack while in defense position or something similar. But it looks like they didn't know how to translate the effect of tha anime Wall Shadow into the card game. That happened a lot for the first seasons of the show, since the rules were still undefined (like how in the anime both Thousand Year Dragon and Dark Sage are summoned when Time Wizards effect is succesful, but in the card game the first one is a Fusion and the second one an effect monster that emulated the show).
@@criesinpoor1725 If you're running a labyrinth deck, wall shadow can travel through walls. If you play it right and pending the opponent doesn't drop a field spell, you can constantly attack from the walls without ever being attacked.
I love the Metalzoa & MetalRedEyes stupidity. In the manga, metalmorph originally just gave +400 atk (hence the new base value) and immunity to magic based attacks (pre-official rules asspulls) And in the anime the card used was magic metal force, who had the same effect as manga metalmorph. If you are curious, the real metalmorph was used later in the anime, with the actual +300 and battle increase.... and due to godknowswhy transformed the monster (musician king into heavy metal king).
Also Rainbow Gravity is not that hard to use. In a proper Crystal Beast deck, you can get 7 different Crystal beast relatively easy on the field or graveyard.
@@draconis_ch Yeah... Apparently the moron who makes these videos never heard of a strategy called deck milling with cards like "Foolish Burial" and the "Lightsworn" archetype!
Suggestions for future videos: Best/worst generic synchros (1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters) Best/worst equip spells Most annoying cards in Duel Links I love your content. Keep up the good work!
I'd say leave the duel links one to a channel that's more duel links focused. Duellogs plays but doesn't bring up the game often because most of his viewers are TCG players
I've made lists of worst cards that I could send scripts of to save time but then again would anyone agree with my reasoning? After all, a card has to not only have a bad effect but also never see play in order to qualify as a bad card
Regarding Crop Circles, I run an Alien Deck casually, and the main benefit is that it doesn't have to be an alien monster you sacrifice. Since Aliens are very good at stealing enemy monsters, but lack much in the way of destruction, crop circles can be paired with effects like Mass Hypnosis or Brainwashing Beam to steal an opponents monster, use it against them, and then before they regarding control, sacrifice it with Crop Circles to weaken their field and get a potent Alien out yourself.
@@rescuerex7031 Most alien steals are temporary, so you're going to lose the stolen monster either way. Crop Circles lets you remove it from the field before your opponent regains it and bring out an alien from your deck. It ends up in their GY sure, but they were going to get it back one way or another, and at least with Crop Circles you've made a profit from it.
@@DuIstalri Realistically you should've used the monster you stole for something else, like a Link Summon, or even tributing hecking Gol'Gar, a monster you steal should be used for somethingit shouldn't be staying on the board
I don’t think that’s the actual card. But the transformation Summon from what I can assume is what Jaden did with Metamorphosis to summon cards like Neo Bubbleman from the extra deck. He never used Knospe or Poison Rose, so I dont know why the card effect says that on it.
Poison Rose was a card in the manga, where Jaden used Masked Hero and the Transformation summon". Funnily enough, Poison Rose' card text in the manga mentions "evolve summon", thus increasing the confusion
Fun fact: you can't activate Crop Circles' effect if you can't fullfil it's requirement (or at least you couldn't before, I don't play current Yugioh), making the effect to take damage impossible to apply.
Rank10YGO said this when he covered the card during the alien archetype archive video. He wasn't even sure a card in the game exists that allows you to remove every target for Crop Circle's activation before it resolves. I was thinking Chain Destruction but I'm pretty sure you can't activate it when your opponent activates Crop Circle in response to an Alien monster's summon
Ryan Bell oh thank god im not the only one to spot that. I’ll delete my comment now. Funny thing on the actual card it’s written correctly which is why I’m confused why it said that.
In defense of Rainbow Gravity, it actually has uses in Duel Links, of all places. Jesse, the user of Crystal Beasts, has a skill to discard 1-2 cards to place 1-2 Crystal Beast monsters in your spell/trap zone. This gave you instant access to cards like Rare Value and Crystal Raikeki. What this did was make a reliable draw engine to cycle through the 20 card deck as fast as possible, and since you only ran 1 Rainbow Dragon, Rainbow Gravity was used to get Rainbow Dragon back on the field. This skill, Translucent Crystals, can be used once per turn and twice per duel. Making the Rainbow Dragon strategy fairly consistent, even if it wasn't that strong.
"This card missed timing/You missed the timing" Is the worst thing ever to see in any Yu-Gi-Oh game, even more so when you are just trying to use a card as it was clearly intended to be used based on it's effect. It is literally the worst "mechanic" in all of Yu-Gi-Oh, and I put mechanic in quotes, because I'm fairly sure it only works the way it does because players rule sharked it until it was made an official ruling, as I don't remember my 2.0 rulebook(Fairly sure it was 2.0, Starter Deck Joey's rule book, what ever version that one was.) talking about it. (From some brief googleing it seems it wasn't a thing until 2009 so that adds even more to my point of it was likely just a rule made by Upperdeck after someone started rule sharking because there wasn't a rule to stop them.) Hell I hadn't even heard of it until I played Legacy of the Duelist and was playing a jank Des frog deck, had a Dupe Frog on the field, tribute summon said Dupe Frog for a Des Frog, and then that dreaded message poped up, saying that I had missed the timing and I had to look up what it meant. I was honestly quite frustrated because given the time period of when 90% of Frogs were added to the game, there were only 2 mechanics to get Dupe frog off the field without using a field destroying effect like Dark Hole, tribute summon and fusion summon, both of these things cause it to "miss timing" meaning Konami printed a card that literally could not use it's effect at the time of it's release, and even other frogs like Swap Frog can't make it use it's effect, because Swap frog would tribute Dupe Frog>Use Swap Frogs effect to special summon from the deck>Dupe tries to activate it's effect and misses timing It really does feel like players trying to rule shark on the wording and it should have never been a thing. Even more so when you consider just reading the cards the effect reads the same way for "If" and "When" effects, it's "IF a card does x YOU CAN do y" or "When a card does x YOU CAN do y" they are both optional, you don't HAVE to activate a "When" effect and often on older cards it seems like they just used what ever one fit the sentence of the effect better. The best argument for why missed timing should even be a thing is that some cards would be broken without it, well then that's on Konami to errata the cards, and FIX THE CARDS. Not break hundreds of cards and prevent them from working as they clearly intended them to work, simply to balance a small handful of cards. Like the example listed is Lightpulsar Dragon and Red Eye's Darkness Metal Dragon creating an infinite loop because you can link the two of them off, then use Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon's effect to special summon Lightpulsar Dragon back, and it can brink Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon back, and there is an easy fix to this to stop it from being an infinite loop, make Lightpulsar Dragon's effect a hard once per turn effect, or just have Lightpulsar Dragon banish itself to summon the monster from the grave. Though if I remember right the OCG fixed this loop by just making Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon's special summon another dragon effect a hard once per turn. Would it still be a powerful effect? Sure, it would be a 2 card rank 4, but there are already a lot of 1 card rank 4s in the game. And this 2 card combo takes at least 3 other cards to work, given you need to banish a light and dark to summon Lightpulsar Dragon, and you need to send any dragon to the grave to summon Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon, plus you still need to link climb. So optimally you send a light or dark dragon to the grave to summon Red Eyes, then banish it and another dragon already sent there earlier to summon Lightpulsar Dragon, then you summon your link 2 of choice, then bring both back, then make your link 4. Geeze this got long, sorry about that, TLDR: Missing the timing is an outdated mechanic that only serves to prevent cards from working as they were clearly intended, and the only arguments for why it needs to still be a thing are weak as fuck.
Without "missed timing", the game would be broken and have no rhyme or reason in it's own rules! EXAMPLE: My opponent plays "Fissure", a card with a spell speed of 1. I answer with "Book Of Moon", a card with a spell speed of 2. The result is that my opponent's "Fissure" misses it's timing because my monster is not face up. See the problem?
Bastion: "My strategy doesn't rely on luck like Jaden's, it's all about careful calculation and math." Also Bastion: *uses this ridiculous fucking spell card that requires 3 specific monsters to be on his field*
It's not that ridiculous really, as back in GX formats and especially in the anime, it wasn't particularly hard to keep a monster or two alive. You can even still kind of do that now a days as well, it's just harder to do. And given that Hydrogeddon can summon copies of it's self if it kills something, you can get at least two on field generally (GX/5Ds) and then use a spell or monster to search Oxygeddon if you didn't start with it. Convoluted? Yes. Worth it? Majority of cases, no. Ridiculous? Not really, just convoluted.
@@morganmcian43 You realize Dark Hole wasnt even banned when Water Dragon came out. Even back then Smashing Ground Fissure Sakuretsu Armor Dimensional Prison Solem Judgement Lightning Vortex fucking Bottomless Trap Hole. Any spell or tarp monster removal interrupts the summoning and removing the materials. Only reason it gets pulled off in the anime is cause the anime is so allergic to monster removal that isnt battle wich only adds salt to the wound
@CogentPhilosopher sorry I meant cards that are able to special summon another monster if something happens. Like Shooting Quasar special summons shooting star from the extra deck when it leaves the field.
@CogentPhilosopher Nova can summon a Cyber dragon from the grave. I am talking about cards like Shooting Quasar Dragon, the trap card called Waking the dragon, Number 39: Utopia Double, etc. Cards like them.
Fun fact. You can't actually take the damage with crop circles because if you have no aliens in your deck you can't actually activate it. So it's basically a really bad gladiator beast. Also why would aliens make the eye of wdjat in a crop field?
@Oliver Nehmer Well yes but........who is doing that exactly? Ah yes the legendary match up of aliens vs generaiders. (Which actually sounds like alien vs predator. Huh go figure)
I mean, atleast the Familiar Possessed can be played as normal beaters? Unlike a lot of cards here that can only come out with their insane summoning conditions.
There are OCG Link Monsters that make the Familiar Possessed Cards and Charmer cards obsolete even then they are extremely situational depending on match up
Well yeah, to keep them from being op so that they can be put into production. Otherwise that card can't be used competitively if its way too strong, especially if its really easy to get a hold of.
How to fix Wall shadow would be by making it so that you dont have to tribute the labyrinth wall, and instead can special summon one wall shadow per turn. Give Wall Shadow an effect that redirects attacks to Labyrinth Wall. And also give it some form of destruction power or make it a threath. Either make it able to attack directly, or make it so that once per turn it can destroy 1 card on the opponent's side of the field. (Or give it both effects, but only 1 can be activated) If labyrinth wall is destroyed, destroy the wall shadows.
Not arguing that the Familiar Possessed are good and don't deserve a spot on this list and I know they've been hella power creeped by modern Yugioh, but I always liked that they gave you an (albeit roundabout and cumbersome) way of taking out an opponent's monster by bringing it to your side and tributing it to summon them
I think "Theinen the Great Sphinx" deserves a spot on the list for being so specific: •It requires two specific high Level monsters to be destroyed at the same time; even though this can be done by another card that has a effect to specifically destroy them both, it itself requires being removed from the field. •Requires you to pay Life Points to Special Summon it, albeit only 500 Life Points. •Does not have the damage inflicting effects of either of its summon materials. •Has a "when" effect that once it is Special Summoned you can pay even more Life Points to increase its ATK, but only until the End Phase: again though, only 500 Life Points. •Its summoning condition is a "when" effect and as such can miss timing, e.g. if the destruction occurred as part of a Chain.
Agree with mostly all of the points, but paying only 500 LP to special summon a high attack beatstick is kinda good. Nothing top tier of course, but still...ok
@@evan-bunch-of-numbers Yeah. I was joking about that using a quote from a commercial. At least Theinen can win you the game or massively damage your opponent if you used both Andro's and Teleia's effects beforehand. Still, that takes way too long to accomplish and costs 1000 points to fully use and has no protection. It's just for extreme 1-time damage.
I'd really like to see a Best/Worst Machine type list. I was HUGE into the machine monsters and support back in both the early days and now when I just collect for fun.
It's a shame that Wall Shadow doesn't have the 'can attack while in defense position effect' or even 'switch this card to defense after attacking with it' effect :/ Neither effect would of been op when this card was printed. I honestly hope that it gets a retrain at some point with the Superheavy Samurai effect and other effects such as floating, attacking directly, or protection.
Correct me if im wrong but can't you activate crop circles to negate an attack by sending your target monster to the grave. Or just in general, a respond to a trap hole for example. Or does it have to be a counter trap for it to be able to do that?
You dont negate the attack if you use Crop Circles against an opponnents Attack. This would result to a "Replay" and your Opponent can just attack your new summoned monster. If you can special summon a monster with more Attack, it can "basically" negate an attack (because your opponent usually dont want to run into a stronger monster. So he has to cancel the battle)
i have a gusto deck i have to admit that i used falco more often just for synchro not for the effect sometimes i destroyed it myself with torrential tribute or dark hole to bring hope or gulldo just to have it in the grave to use it with pilica glad to see one of my favorite archetypes on this top 10 videos
not bad of cards all of them ... i remember playing gusto in duel links and falco was a dear friend of mine just love seeing him everytime .. ahh old good days
What makes Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon truly worthless? Metalmorph’s potentially op ability is taken away for a measly 2800 monster with nothing else going for it. The other thing is Red Eye Darkness Dragon is far better since it gets a power boost for dragons in the graveyard. Why Konami does this is beyond me
At the very least REDD is only 100 attack points weaker than REBMD if REBD is the only dragon used to summon it. Otherwise, it will have at least 200 more attack.
Renamon Huepow Yeah use the B Chick way to quick summon Darkness, and then equip it with Metalmorph. Darkness would easily be nearing 4,000 attack this way
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Great Dezard deserves at least a (dis)honorable mention. It's a Level 6, 1900-ATK Spellcaster monster that has to destroy TWO monsters by battle to do its effect to Special Summon from deck... and what do you get out of it? Fushioh Richie, which made your Top 10 Worst Zombies list, and for good reason. Very much a case of lore getting in the way of the card's playability.
you know, if dark sage worked like it does in the anime, it should be more like: "When a 'Dark Magician' you control would be destroyed by the effect of 'Time Wizard', tribute that 'Dark Magician' and Special Summon this card from your Hand or Deck. This card cannot be destroyed by the effect of Time Wizard."
First ever pack of Yu-Gi-Oh cards my dad bought for me contained magical wall, labrinth wall and wall shadow all together . Gotta admit been hooked ever since
Konami just needs to reinvent a bunch of the older cards to counter the power creep. I feel like a lot of them would be at least playable with updated effects/stats such as the roid archetype, changing the floaters to being destroyed by battle or card effect (level 4 UFOroid that floats when destroyed and sent to the GY), Wall Shadow being able to attack but still make use of its defense like Superheavy Samurai (using its defense to attack) or Submarineroid (attack directly then switch to defense position), or REBMD / Metalzoa keeping the attack boosting ability.
If wall shadow had 400 more atk and an effect that auto switches it to defense mode when targeted for an attack it could be an almost halfway decent card.
I think Wall Shadow should be more like...2000 attack and 3000 defense. Whenever it is being attacked you can move it into another unoccupied monster zone and may switch it to defense. Once per turn during YOUR TURN you can move the card into a unoccupied monster zone.
The worst part about Red eyes metal in my opinion is that it MUST be special summoned from the deck, it is so annoying drawing into it knowing that you can never even use it
8:30 Ultimate Crystal Ritual, something like that. It's a trap card where if one of your crystal Beast monsters is destroyed by battle no matter who's battle phase it is, you get to summon Rainbow Overdragon and send all seven different Crystal Beasts to the graveyard so you could make ot useful? I had to use them so that's how I know.
Improving some cards Dark Sage can float to Dark Magician and bring a Spell card from the gy Red-Eyes Metal Dragon Gains metalmorph effect and unnafected by Spell and Trap cards Wall Shadow Can attack in def position Unnafected by card effects, floats to a Gate Guardian ignoring summoning conditions
@@Drakorre Yeah, something like "if "Dark Magician" is destroyed by a card effect that doesn't specifically target it" to emulate the anime summon but be actually playable.
Because Dark Sage is special summoned from the deck by it’s own effect, when one is playing the game physically, they will have to search the deck for it when they want to activate it’s effect. What if you didn’t know if any copies of Dark Sage were still in your deck? For example, if you banished cards from the top of the deck face down, wouldn’t it be possible that when searching for a copy of Dark Sage in your deck, you might find none and have then performed a free search and possibly a shuffle of your deck? Can players look at their own banished face down cards to prevent this uncertainty?
Nice video. They should stop printing cards with such heavy requirements to special summon bad monsters. But you made me discover a card which make me want to tinker with(sorry) Box Of Friends.I think with a so rich game you won't lack of topics for your Top 10.
Gusto Falco reminds me how much I don't like the idea that card effects can miss timing, it is really confusing when other good cards don't have this issue.
Yeah, as a Magic player I never understand the timing issue as Magic is written very clear cut with a lot of nomenclature which YGO doesn't have, which is kinda surprising.
I have used a gusto deck and I feel like Gusto Falco was originally meant to be used after synchro summoning, but due to poor wording, ruined its potential. It could have been broken if gusto cards in general were better.
Wall Shadow mayyyy have worked at one time if it did not require the sacrifice of Magical Labyrinth, and Labyrinth had an effect of all attacks directed at Wall Shadow were re-directed to Labyrinth. To add balance, they could add like 3-4 shadow tokens that are the counters to how many hits Labyrinth could take on Shadow's behalf. But hey, that ship has sailed almost decades ago.
What? In the anime Joey got the toin coss right wich is why Dark magician turned into dark sage since time magician forwards time. Why should it activate when the toin coss fails ???
@@ddmacc because, if the opponent does it to you. and is right it should active. if its right because it onnly effects your side of the field. so if you get it wrong when you active it yourself. it only effecting your side of the field. so it should active then.
Wall Shadow is a quite early card that was meant to be played alongside Labyrinth of Nightmare, a continous trap that, during the end phase of each player, the current player has to change the battle position of each face up monster they control. This way you have an extra attack over Labyrinth Wall while still being able to defend. At that time players didn't had the plethora of backrow clearing and card removal we do have today, Still, Magical Labyrinth was awful. If you did draw Wall Shadow, you were unable to special summon it, since it allows you to do so only from the deck
The upgraded Bonding H2O reminds me of how Legendary Ocean pretty much replaces the field spell Umi since Legendary Ocean is treated as Umi and does everything Umi does, but better.
Fun fact about Crop Circles: Its almost impossible to legally take the burn damage. This is because in order to activate the card you have to have a valid card remaining in your deck you could search with the levels available to you. This means that the only way to take the burn damage legally is for you to activate it and then another card is chained to it that removes all legal targets of that level from your deck. It also means that in a tournament if you activate it and dont actually find a card you could search with the levels you used, youve made an illegal play and instead of taking the burn damage will lose the game.
some cards can ONLY be special summoned from the deck if a metal card goes in your hand you literally cant summon it wall shadow has the effect only from the deck if if you draw it its completely useless old monsters forgot to put from HAND or deck and just did deck lol
Ok how does missing the timing work if there is no "you can" in the effect? Does the "you can" need to be there for the effect to miss the timing? Or does simply having a "when" in there make it miss timing regardless of whether or not the effect is optional?
„If“ effect do *not* miss timing. „when“ effects could possibly miss timing because the „when“ stands for a certain time, in gusto falcos case right after being sent to the graveyard, but right after gusto is sent to the GY a monster is summoned and therefore the requirement for his effect is not fullfilled. If there was in „if“ the only requirement is that it is sent to the GY which meand it does not matter how many effects are in between
i feel it's worth mentioning that the intended way of summoning the familiar possessed cards is more likely by sacrificing the charmer and their respective familiar, in hiita's case inari fire, who can all special summon themselves from the hand if you have a spellcaster on the field this doesn't make them good cards, but that fact won't stop them from being my favourite cards, i think they're cool concept, and i find their gimmick fun (no matter how terrible it'll ever be)
Damn Labyrinth Wall takes me back. I remember unironically using it all the time just to stall out until I could draw something good. Really thought it was a good card back then and couldn't make a deck without it
Talking about Rainbow life, there is a trap that literally fusion summons their fusion by milling 7 different crystal beasts to the grave. So that condition is not as hard to achieve as you said. That being said, yeah CBs themselves are pretty bad.
@TheDuelLogs --So, one monster I think that should have been included in this list is Test Ape, where it's effect is similar to UFOroid where it can SS a Glad Beast that, instead of being 1500 atk or less, it's a lvl 4 or lower from the deck, but also does not include the effect that make Test Tiger and Test Panther so awesome, which is the part that the Glad Beast SS by the effect of the Test monster is treated as if were SS by another Glad Beast. If it had that effect, I'm pretty sure a lot of Glad Beast players would incorporate it into their decks, but without it, it's about as useful anymore as the field spell or any of the original equip spells. Speaking of Glad Beasts, could you PLEASE do a top 10 WORST Glad Beasts. I think it would be awesome. Thank you.
I like how 4 monsters cards from this list are from Duelist Kingdom lol. (Dark Sage, Metal Red eyes, Metal Zoa, Wall Shadow). They had to make cards so bad just to fit the plot shenanigans of Duelist Kingdom.
How are you including carbuncle in the terrible Crystal Beasts. Cobalt Eagle I can understand because its a little situational, but Carbuncle is the big engine that Crystal Beasts use for swarming and recovery
@Deathborn666 But Duel logs said many times that any monster without immunity to destruction by battle, card effects and can float is a horrible monster.
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TheDuelLogs breaking into your house:
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Not gonna lie; the first time he uses that line, I'm like, "Oh shit, yeah, I've been really enjoying all of his videos and I'm not even subscribed" and subscribed immediately, so at least he got me there lol
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I just helped to reduce that percentage to 72% with my subscription.
even under a ygo video this format sucks
DM Players: Konami, can we get Timaeus Searcher?
Konami: No, we already have Timaeus Searcher at home.
Timaeus Searcher at home:
*Dark Sage*
cant rod search it?
Abdelrahman Elfeky no, Rod searches for cards that list Dark Magician, as in the monster. Timaeus lists dark magician monster as in the archetype. It’s a real dumb restriction, but the card text doesn’t match.
@@abdulrhmanelfeky8534 Nop, Road says a card that specifically list "Dark Magician" (The monster) Timaeus ask for a "Dark Magician" monster (as in Dark Magician or Dark Magician Girl).
Rod isn't specific enough to work.
even ygo vids can't make these funny
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel that “missing timing” is a stupid mechanic in Yu-Gi-Oh? It makes some cards useless in certain conditions that would otherwise make them good, and literally every other mainstream card game doesn’t have anything like that.
I don't think the concept of it is stupid at all. I love the idea of it. But sometimes, it's on cards for no good reason.
What makes it a fun concept is that can make for some fun interactions with the opponent, making them either allow the effect, it spend another card(s) or effect(s) to make sure you miss the timing.
Falco just doesn't function, so it's a bad place for it. Traptrix Dionaea is another example - yes, resetting a Trap Hole is strong, BUT it automatically banishes the trap at the end phase of the next turn, AND you still can't activate it the same turn it was set.
Quasar missing the timing to summon Shooting Star is a good place for it, since it takes work to deal with an Omni negate on legs, the opponent should work to keep you from getting a 3300 destruction negate that can attack up to a potential 5 times.
Solanne Konami needs ways to power creep. This was one of them.
You could argue that on the right cards it could help to balance them. On the wrong ones, it makes cards that should be good bad because of it. In the latter case, yes I agree
It is an indirect way to nerf a card. Remember that Yang Zhing has a monster on the ban list simply because he doesn't miss timing. Many cards would be too strong without timing
@Solanne
These dudes are crazy. Using semantics to balance a card instead of using game mechanics or simply not making busted effects is pure idiocy. Missing timing shouldn't exist. If an effect has fulfilled it activation requirements, other card effects/proper game mechanics not semantics should be the only thing that stops it. Unnecessary headache is unnecessary
To this day. It pains me that Black Metal Dragon didn't just have the Metal Morph Effect built in.
And that every retrain/reimagining of Black Metal has had nothing to do with the metal Morph Effect. Their all better cards for it, but it's still a shame that they don't also have the Metal Morph Effect built in.
In a very similar way it pained me the anime and manga would not follow the actual DM TCG rules & mechanics. Making up effects, cards and random plot bs that taught people who wouldn't take the game seriously (sadly like I would) and made playing these games before online methods a fucking hassle
@@danielmflores Kazuki Takahashi never planned yugioh to be one series of card game, that thing just exploded in popularity after Kaiba got beaten up by Exodia. That is just how the manga went, the card game "Yugioh" doesn't even exists in Japan until Battle City arc.
@@CrnaStrela which is pretty messed up, even in GX when they go to "Duel School" they don't follow the TCG rules. Itd be nice was all I said if it followed the mechanics so people could have learned from the anime
@@danielmflores Like he said, it's the other way around. The anime/manga came first, where it was just a fictional card game and the author didn't have to worry about whether it actually work in real life. It wasn't until about halfway through the manga run of Duelist Kingdom that they attempted to adapt it into an actual game (and if you don't know, the first few Japanese sets didn't have effect monsters and only had a small handful of magic/trap cards, so the rules were VERY primitive). When Duelist Kingdom was ending, the author worked with Konami to hammer out the rules so the card game would work better and the manga could match the new real-life card game more closely.
So it's not that the characters in duelist kingdom weren't following the TCG rules, it's that the TCG rules just didn't exist. Even in later series, the anime would be written first then the card game would have to try to figure out how the hell to adapt the cards.
@@nonenone4560 Wait which pack did relinquished come out in? I thought it was in legend of blue eyes
To be fair, if dark sage was a fusion he would be spammable with eye of the timaeus like the brilliant fusion engine
It still should have been something that is more fair than hoping you win a coin toss once you are able to get both on the field. It could have just been sacrificing both while they are on the field to special summon it.
A difficult requirement to do, but a lot more fair than having to rely on chance.
@thomas schneider well he was bastion's ace
@@Drakorre Fire Dragon and Combusting Fire Dragon when?
Dark Sage can be brought out with A Wild Monster Appears but his search spell effect can't be used then and if that effect could be used once each turn like in the anime he'd be rather good
@@Allannon500 Indeed
I loved the way he said “monsters” at the beginning of the video. MAWNSTERS. Bringing Joey Wheeler back.
I think a way to "fix" Wall shadow and REDMG would be to a) Make them float back into their original monsters when removed from the field and b) give them better effects.
Maybe let REDMG keep Metalmorphs effect and give it 3k attack. And let Wall Shadow attack directly while in defense position Submarineroid style.
Still not very good, but then you would at least have a small niche in which using these cards might be useful.
Or just let Wall Shadow attack while in defense position like super heavy samurai
I think in the anime it had some special abilities but none of them translated over to the TCG.
What Monfire said for wall shadow, though it would still be a horrible card, and for black metal dragon have it gain Metalmorphs atk gain effect, still would be horrible but still would be better.
REBMD retcon:
"(Summoning condition) (Metalmorph effect) This card is unaffected by spell cards. If this card destroys an opponent's monster by battle, inflict 2400 damage to your opponent OR damage equal to that monster's original attack. (whichever is higher)"
Support spell:
Metalmorph Salvage
Send one "REBMD" or a"Metal Zoa" from your deck to your graveyard to target one monster on your side of the field. Equip, from the deck or graveyard, one "Metalmorph" card to that monster.
Wall Shadow looks like Shadow Ghoul, so maybe give it Shadow Ghoul’s effect (+100atk per monster in your GY) plus attack in defense position? Piercing damage? Treat it like a fiend too?
I'd like to imagine Konami holds him hostage in a basement somewhere forcing him to make these videos.
Nah. If it was konami, he would constantly try to convince us to buy all these via their packs rather than singularly
His last video will be "top 10 ways to escape Konami headquarters"
xd
16:46 Wall Shadow should have had An effect that lets You Special Summon it If You have a Face Up Defense Position Labyrinth Wall, and can't be destroyed by Attacks or Effects as long as Labyrinth Wall is Face Up.
And that it had 3000 ATK and 0 Def as perfect complement to Labyrinth Wall
And also it can switch its atk and def value depends on its position
I imagine the only reason we aren't getting more Crystal Beasts because Konami is having a hard time thinking of new colors.
Apparently not
10:11 "Familiar-Possesed Hiita"
*Rata screaming noises*
Sssssh
14:30 Imagine Bastion getting support that let him counter All attributes, and actually makes Bonding H2O better (by Say, banish a Bonding H2O from your Hand or GY draw 3 cards) and finally brings that Fire Dragon from The GX Opening
Bruh that card is solar flare dragon
And Print the Fire Dragon he had in the Intro but never used
Fun fact about Crop Circle: if you don’t have an appropriate target in your deck, you can’t activate it (same ruling as rota, Stratos and other similar searchers) so its self burn effect cannot trigger.
If you activate butyour opponent chain something that make you discard cards from your deck, milling all your alien monsters, would that make the burn effect happen?
@@Danothyus1 Yes
That little tidbit makes the slow trap even more worthless
@@Danothyus1 is there even a card that can do that? Besides Inferno Tempest I guess, which I don't know how they'd chain it in response to Crops.
@@KaoruMzk that quick play that forces both players to discard 2 and draw 2
It'd be really interesting if Konami made a Labyrinth archetype, I'd appreciate a new version of Labyrinth Tank, Wall Shadow, and maybe Gate Guardian.
Ooh, "Labrynth Gate Guardian" or "Gate Guardian of the Labrynth" would be an excellent name for a retrain.
Gate Guardian DEFINITELY needs a retrain. His anime effect is so much better than his vanilla effect
@@TailsTheFox32 what is his anime effect
Gate guardian retrain as an Xyz Monster
Drako Negate attacks
Ah yes, the Wall Shadow. It was useless even when it came out.IAccording to it's effect in the anime, I think the effect should been something like Total Defense Shogun, like the monster could attack while in defense position or something similar. But it looks like they didn't know how to translate the effect of tha anime Wall Shadow into the card game. That happened a lot for the first seasons of the show, since the rules were still undefined (like how in the anime both Thousand Year Dragon and Dark Sage are summoned when Time Wizards effect is succesful, but in the card game the first one is a Fusion and the second one an effect monster that emulated the show).
Though wall shadow is pretty useful in duelist of the roses
@@DG_Raizen for what purpose?
@@criesinpoor1725 If you're running a labyrinth deck, wall shadow can travel through walls. If you play it right and pending the opponent doesn't drop a field spell, you can constantly attack from the walls without ever being attacked.
@@DG_Raizen Walls were immune to field spells
Cassandra I think they should at least have kept the effect of Shadow Ghoul, since Walls Shadow is supposed to be a 'fusion' of it with the Labyrinth.
I love the Metalzoa & MetalRedEyes stupidity.
In the manga, metalmorph originally just gave +400 atk (hence the new base value) and immunity to magic based attacks (pre-official rules asspulls)
And in the anime the card used was magic metal force, who had the same effect as manga metalmorph.
If you are curious, the real metalmorph was used later in the anime, with the actual +300 and battle increase.... and due to godknowswhy transformed the monster (musician king into heavy metal king).
Don't know what you're talking about, ruby carbuncle is one of the 2 good original crystal beasts.
Also Rainbow Gravity is not that hard to use. In a proper Crystal Beast deck, you can get 7 different Crystal beast relatively easy on the field or graveyard.
@@draconis_ch well, mabey it's harder to use if you consider ruby to be "terrible"
@@draconis_ch The problem is mostly that it's much easier to run Crystal Beasts without Rainbow Dragon at all.
Right?
Too many noobs acting like veterans and starting their own "how to play channels".
Pathetic!
@@draconis_ch
Yeah...
Apparently the moron who makes these videos never heard of a strategy called deck milling with cards like "Foolish Burial" and the "Lightsworn" archetype!
Suggestions for future videos:
Best/worst generic synchros (1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters)
Best/worst equip spells
Most annoying cards in Duel Links
I love your content. Keep up the good work!
I'd say leave the duel links one to a channel that's more duel links focused. Duellogs plays but doesn't bring up the game often because most of his viewers are TCG players
"Top 10 Worst Cards" is my favorite series, I hope you'll do a lot of them :D
I've made lists of worst cards that I could send scripts of to save time but then again would anyone agree with my reasoning? After all, a card has to not only have a bad effect but also never see play in order to qualify as a bad card
That Poison Rose has two big buds thou
A man of culture i see.
Regarding Crop Circles, I run an Alien Deck casually, and the main benefit is that it doesn't have to be an alien monster you sacrifice. Since Aliens are very good at stealing enemy monsters, but lack much in the way of destruction, crop circles can be paired with effects like Mass Hypnosis or Brainwashing Beam to steal an opponents monster, use it against them, and then before they regarding control, sacrifice it with Crop Circles to weaken their field and get a potent Alien out yourself.
You're weakening your own field getting rid of a Stolen Monster
@@rescuerex7031 Most alien steals are temporary, so you're going to lose the stolen monster either way. Crop Circles lets you remove it from the field before your opponent regains it and bring out an alien from your deck. It ends up in their GY sure, but they were going to get it back one way or another, and at least with Crop Circles you've made a profit from it.
@@DuIstalri Realistically you should've used the monster you stole for something else, like a Link Summon, or even tributing hecking Gol'Gar, a monster you steal should be used for somethingit shouldn't be staying on the board
yo wtf, Rose bud says: Transformation Summon from the extradeck. Wtf it's a "Transformation summon"
Yeah wtf is that???
I don’t think that’s the actual card. But the transformation Summon from what I can assume is what Jaden did with Metamorphosis to summon cards like Neo Bubbleman from the extra deck. He never used Knospe or Poison Rose, so I dont know why the card effect says that on it.
Poison Rose was a card in the manga, where Jaden used Masked Hero and the Transformation summon". Funnily enough, Poison Rose' card text in the manga mentions "evolve summon", thus increasing the confusion
Nue oh, I completely forgot about the manga, no wonder.
Special Summon it from the Extra Deck? yeah... that's not possible, was that a manga thing back then?
Fun fact: you can't activate Crop Circles' effect if you can't fullfil it's requirement (or at least you couldn't before, I don't play current Yugioh), making the effect to take damage impossible to apply.
@ regardless, I really don't know why the fuck they even thought of adding that downside.
Rank10YGO said this when he covered the card during the alien archetype archive video. He wasn't even sure a card in the game exists that allows you to remove every target for Crop Circle's activation before it resolves.
I was thinking Chain Destruction but I'm pretty sure you can't activate it when your opponent activates Crop Circle in response to an Alien monster's summon
@ Miss timing when Crop Circles is activated? Otherwise your opponent can make a search due to Crop Circles resolving first.
Or just prevent deck access at that *very* specific time.
@@Weareonenation303 Inferno-Tempest should be a possibility.
7:50 why does rose bud say “from your extra deck”???
Ryan Bell oh thank god im not the only one to spot that. I’ll delete my comment now. Funny thing on the actual card it’s written correctly which is why I’m confused why it said that.
@@GaminSnake That's the manga version, where Poison Rose was a basically a mask change style fusion if I remember right.
Theinen the Great Sphinx-it could've been decent if they had ever added more support to the pyramid of light strategy
In defense of Rainbow Gravity, it actually has uses in Duel Links, of all places.
Jesse, the user of Crystal Beasts, has a skill to discard 1-2 cards to place 1-2 Crystal Beast monsters in your spell/trap zone. This gave you instant access to cards like Rare Value and Crystal Raikeki.
What this did was make a reliable draw engine to cycle through the 20 card deck as fast as possible, and since you only ran 1 Rainbow Dragon, Rainbow Gravity was used to get Rainbow Dragon back on the field.
This skill, Translucent Crystals, can be used once per turn and twice per duel. Making the Rainbow Dragon strategy fairly consistent, even if it wasn't that strong.
"This card missed timing/You missed the timing" Is the worst thing ever to see in any Yu-Gi-Oh game, even more so when you are just trying to use a card as it was clearly intended to be used based on it's effect. It is literally the worst "mechanic" in all of Yu-Gi-Oh, and I put mechanic in quotes, because I'm fairly sure it only works the way it does because players rule sharked it until it was made an official ruling, as I don't remember my 2.0 rulebook(Fairly sure it was 2.0, Starter Deck Joey's rule book, what ever version that one was.) talking about it. (From some brief googleing it seems it wasn't a thing until 2009 so that adds even more to my point of it was likely just a rule made by Upperdeck after someone started rule sharking because there wasn't a rule to stop them.)
Hell I hadn't even heard of it until I played Legacy of the Duelist and was playing a jank Des frog deck, had a Dupe Frog on the field, tribute summon said Dupe Frog for a Des Frog, and then that dreaded message poped up, saying that I had missed the timing and I had to look up what it meant. I was honestly quite frustrated because given the time period of when 90% of Frogs were added to the game, there were only 2 mechanics to get Dupe frog off the field without using a field destroying effect like Dark Hole, tribute summon and fusion summon, both of these things cause it to "miss timing" meaning Konami printed a card that literally could not use it's effect at the time of it's release, and even other frogs like Swap Frog can't make it use it's effect, because Swap frog would tribute Dupe Frog>Use Swap Frogs effect to special summon from the deck>Dupe tries to activate it's effect and misses timing
It really does feel like players trying to rule shark on the wording and it should have never been a thing. Even more so when you consider just reading the cards the effect reads the same way for "If" and "When" effects, it's "IF a card does x YOU CAN do y" or "When a card does x YOU CAN do y" they are both optional, you don't HAVE to activate a "When" effect and often on older cards it seems like they just used what ever one fit the sentence of the effect better.
The best argument for why missed timing should even be a thing is that some cards would be broken without it, well then that's on Konami to errata the cards, and FIX THE CARDS. Not break hundreds of cards and prevent them from working as they clearly intended them to work, simply to balance a small handful of cards.
Like the example listed is Lightpulsar Dragon and Red Eye's Darkness Metal Dragon creating an infinite loop because you can link the two of them off, then use Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon's effect to special summon Lightpulsar Dragon back, and it can brink Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon back, and there is an easy fix to this to stop it from being an infinite loop, make Lightpulsar Dragon's effect a hard once per turn effect, or just have Lightpulsar Dragon banish itself to summon the monster from the grave. Though if I remember right the OCG fixed this loop by just making Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon's special summon another dragon effect a hard once per turn. Would it still be a powerful effect? Sure, it would be a 2 card rank 4, but there are already a lot of 1 card rank 4s in the game. And this 2 card combo takes at least 3 other cards to work, given you need to banish a light and dark to summon Lightpulsar Dragon, and you need to send any dragon to the grave to summon Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon, plus you still need to link climb. So optimally you send a light or dark dragon to the grave to summon Red Eyes, then banish it and another dragon already sent there earlier to summon Lightpulsar Dragon, then you summon your link 2 of choice, then bring both back, then make your link 4.
Geeze this got long, sorry about that, TLDR: Missing the timing is an outdated mechanic that only serves to prevent cards from working as they were clearly intended, and the only arguments for why it needs to still be a thing are weak as fuck.
Missing timing is the most stupid rule in entire game
I wonder what they've kept it implemented for all these years. And why they keep printing cards that can miss the timing
It saves ink, so they don't have to put "except as a cost" on every card it applies to
I totally agree. I wanna activate Dupe off of Toad, god dammit!
@@alexhughes3914 They could simply only print card with the If, so they don't miss timing.
Without "missed timing", the game would be broken and have no rhyme or reason in it's own rules!
EXAMPLE:
My opponent plays "Fissure", a card with a spell speed of 1.
I answer with "Book Of Moon", a card with a spell speed of 2.
The result is that my opponent's "Fissure" misses it's timing because my monster is not face up.
See the problem?
Shadow Wall needs a redo. Fusion card using Labyrinth and Shadow Ghoul. Keep the 3000 DEF. Atk should Ghouls' effect or Superheavy Samurai's effects.
Well, at least you can use Water Dragon to deal with Salamangreats.
as we all know the power of science is greater than the power of overrated digimon on fire
Bastion is God
Bastion: "My strategy doesn't rely on luck like Jaden's, it's all about careful calculation and math."
Also Bastion: *uses this ridiculous fucking spell card that requires 3 specific monsters to be on his field*
It's not that ridiculous really, as back in GX formats and especially in the anime, it wasn't particularly hard to keep a monster or two alive. You can even still kind of do that now a days as well, it's just harder to do. And given that Hydrogeddon can summon copies of it's self if it kills something, you can get at least two on field generally (GX/5Ds) and then use a spell or monster to search Oxygeddon if you didn't start with it. Convoluted? Yes. Worth it? Majority of cases, no. Ridiculous? Not really, just convoluted.
@@morganmcian43 You realize Dark Hole wasnt even banned when Water Dragon came out.
Even back then Smashing Ground Fissure Sakuretsu Armor Dimensional Prison Solem Judgement Lightning Vortex fucking Bottomless Trap Hole. Any spell or tarp monster removal interrupts the summoning and removing the materials.
Only reason it gets pulled off in the anime is cause the anime is so allergic to monster removal that isnt battle wich only adds salt to the wound
Top 10 cards that can special summon from the extra deck in response to a specific situation. Example: Shooting Quasar Dragon
Could've sworn he did this recently
@CogentPhilosopher Cyber Infinity can only negate cards and absorb other attack mode monsters, not special summon from the extra deck
@CogentPhilosopher sorry I meant cards that are able to special summon another monster if something happens. Like Shooting Quasar special summons shooting star from the extra deck when it leaves the field.
@CogentPhilosopher yeah I guess I should have worded that better before I posted the comment
@CogentPhilosopher Nova can summon a Cyber dragon from the grave. I am talking about cards like Shooting Quasar Dragon, the trap card called Waking the dragon, Number 39: Utopia Double, etc. Cards like them.
Fun fact. You can't actually take the damage with crop circles because if you have no aliens in your deck you can't actually activate it. So it's basically a really bad gladiator beast. Also why would aliens make the eye of wdjat in a crop field?
I remember that fact from Rata's Alien video. How could they mess that up?
@Oliver Nehmer Well yes but........who is doing that exactly? Ah yes the legendary match up of aliens vs generaiders. (Which actually sounds like alien vs predator. Huh go figure)
I mean, atleast the Familiar Possessed can be played as normal beaters? Unlike a lot of cards here that can only come out with their insane summoning conditions.
They’re getting a Charmer Structure Deck
@@brianaguilar8283 really? Huh! Interesting
@@brianaguilar8283 I really hope this is true, they deserve some love
Also they are lvl 4 with more than 1800 which is always a plus in my book
There are OCG Link Monsters that make the Familiar Possessed Cards and Charmer cards obsolete even then they are extremely situational depending on match up
basically poorly adapted anime cards/things edit: you should do a list on "cards that are at 3 but used to be banned"
Well yeah, to keep them from being op so that they can be put into production. Otherwise that card can't be used competitively if its way too strong, especially if its really easy to get a hold of.
He would have to do a rule of no erratas because DMOC, Sinister serpent, Chaos Emperor Envoy of the End, among others would take the spots quickly
Unlimited is the term you're looking for.
Actually "top 10 worst" means "bottom 10"
14:45 khm... what about the tier zero sneak-eye deck?
How to fix Wall shadow would be by making it so that you dont have to tribute the labyrinth wall, and instead can special summon one wall shadow per turn.
Give Wall Shadow an effect that redirects attacks to Labyrinth Wall. And also give it some form of destruction power or make it a threath.
Either make it able to attack directly, or make it so that once per turn it can destroy 1 card on the opponent's side of the field. (Or give it both effects, but only 1 can be activated)
If labyrinth wall is destroyed, destroy the wall shadows.
Not arguing that the Familiar Possessed are good and don't deserve a spot on this list and I know they've been hella power creeped by modern Yugioh, but I always liked that they gave you an (albeit roundabout and cumbersome) way of taking out an opponent's monster by bringing it to your side and tributing it to summon them
The new link versions do this so well. Love the new link versions of them.
From knowledge, you did top/bottom 10 Pyro & Zombie monsters. Time to finish the rest of them, with an all things considered perspective!
I think "Theinen the Great Sphinx" deserves a spot on the list for being so specific:
•It requires two specific high Level monsters to be destroyed at the same time; even though this can be done by another card that has a effect to specifically destroy them both, it itself requires being removed from the field.
•Requires you to pay Life Points to Special Summon it, albeit only 500 Life Points.
•Does not have the damage inflicting effects of either of its summon materials.
•Has a "when" effect that once it is Special Summoned you can pay even more Life Points to increase its ATK, but only until the End Phase: again though, only 500 Life Points.
•Its summoning condition is a "when" effect and as such can miss timing, e.g. if the destruction occurred as part of a Chain.
Which is why I illegally modified its summoning and effect to be a bit more anime like during high school and still lost because of 1 card.
Agree with mostly all of the points, but paying only 500 LP to special summon a high attack beatstick is kinda good. Nothing top tier of course, but still...ok
"Just ok" is not ok.
@@Prince.Eva.Huepow i think you're a bit confused
@@evan-bunch-of-numbers Yeah. I was joking about that using a quote from a commercial. At least Theinen can win you the game or massively damage your opponent if you used both Andro's and Teleia's effects beforehand. Still, that takes way too long to accomplish and costs 1000 points to fully use and has no protection. It's just for extreme 1-time damage.
I'd really like to see a Best/Worst Machine type list. I was HUGE into the machine monsters and support back in both the early days and now when I just collect for fun.
Chimeratech Rampage Dragon/REBMD.
Towers and Magnus
It's a shame that Wall Shadow doesn't have the 'can attack while in defense position effect' or even 'switch this card to defense after attacking with it' effect :/ Neither effect would of been op when this card was printed. I honestly hope that it gets a retrain at some point with the Superheavy Samurai effect and other effects such as floating, attacking directly, or protection.
Kinda surprised Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth isn't on the list for it having to wait 6 turns to come out
You summon it from your hand.
@@teddyhaines6613 whoops..... Lol
Rainbow Gravity's card art looks like Maleficent's dragon mode getting hit by a Carebear stare 😂❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Correct me if im wrong but can't you activate crop circles to negate an attack by sending your target monster to the grave. Or just in general, a respond to a trap hole for example. Or does it have to be a counter trap for it to be able to do that?
You dont negate the attack if you use Crop Circles against an opponnents Attack. This would result to a "Replay" and your Opponent can just attack your new summoned monster.
If you can special summon a monster with more Attack, it can "basically" negate an attack (because your opponent usually dont want to run into a stronger monster. So he has to cancel the battle)
i have a gusto deck
i have to admit that i used falco more often just for synchro not for the effect sometimes i destroyed it myself with torrential tribute or dark hole to bring hope or gulldo
just to have it in the grave to use it with pilica
glad to see one of my favorite archetypes on this top 10 videos
Bro the Great Dezard, a card that special summons the one and only Fushioh Richie
not bad of cards all of them ... i remember playing gusto in duel links and falco was a dear friend of mine just love seeing him everytime .. ahh old good days
What makes Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon truly worthless? Metalmorph’s potentially op ability is taken away for a measly 2800 monster with nothing else going for it. The other thing is Red Eye Darkness Dragon is far better since it gets a power boost for dragons in the graveyard.
Why Konami does this is beyond me
At the very least REDD is only 100 attack points weaker than REBMD if REBD is the only dragon used to summon it. Otherwise, it will have at least 200 more attack.
Renamon Huepow I’d still keep Metalmorph as a staple for a Red-Eyes deck. It’s power up can be quite useful for otherwise week monsters
@@nosfonader8792 Yeah. Makes REDD even more worth it to summon.
Renamon Huepow Yeah use the B Chick way to quick summon Darkness, and then equip it with Metalmorph. Darkness would easily be nearing 4,000 attack this way
thanks for the videos you are making man
Wall Shadow should had been able to attack in Defense Mode, as that would had been REALLY fitting to it's lore.
love the videos by you, both informative and entertaining, your contents great dude keep it up. Genuinely one of my favorite youtubers and thats counting the bigger ones too
Great Dezard deserves at least a (dis)honorable mention. It's a Level 6, 1900-ATK Spellcaster monster that has to destroy TWO monsters by battle to do its effect to Special Summon from deck... and what do you get out of it? Fushioh Richie, which made your Top 10 Worst Zombies list, and for good reason. Very much a case of lore getting in the way of the card's playability.
The fact that "missing timing" is a thing in Yu-Gi-Oh shows how bad the current game design is.
you know, if dark sage worked like it does in the anime, it should be more like:
"When a 'Dark Magician' you control would be destroyed by the effect of 'Time Wizard', tribute that 'Dark Magician' and Special Summon this card from your Hand or Deck. This card cannot be destroyed by the effect of Time Wizard."
@@roachybill It would basically turn Time Wizard into "heads: Raigeki, tails: Dark Sage."
Top 10 cards that was print to replace old cards? Since you talk about them in this video, It would be interesting to make the list of them.
You mean top 10 retrains ?
Soo toon Kingdom?
@@zeroomega3781 yes, something like that.
7:30 Transformation Summon from extra deck? Where did you find this image? lol
First ever pack of Yu-Gi-Oh cards my dad bought for me contained magical wall, labrinth wall and wall shadow all together . Gotta admit been hooked ever since
9:05 Amber Mammoth's effect is awful but it sounds like Arnie so it evens out
Konami just needs to reinvent a bunch of the older cards to counter the power creep. I feel like a lot of them would be at least playable with updated effects/stats such as the roid archetype, changing the floaters to being destroyed by battle or card effect (level 4 UFOroid that floats when destroyed and sent to the GY), Wall Shadow being able to attack but still make use of its defense like Superheavy Samurai (using its defense to attack) or Submarineroid (attack directly then switch to defense position), or REBMD / Metalzoa keeping the attack boosting ability.
special summoning itself from the deck is possibly the scariest thing that can be on a card but its always on stupid and bad cards
If wall shadow had 400 more atk and an effect that auto switches it to defense mode when targeted for an attack it could be an almost halfway decent card.
I think Wall Shadow should be more like...2000 attack and 3000 defense. Whenever it is being attacked you can move it into another unoccupied monster zone and may switch it to defense. Once per turn during YOUR TURN you can move the card into a unoccupied monster zone.
@@SCH292 That's better
The worst part about Red eyes metal in my opinion is that it MUST be special summoned from the deck, it is so annoying drawing into it knowing that you can never even use it
8:30 Ultimate Crystal Ritual, something like that. It's a trap card where if one of your crystal Beast monsters is destroyed by battle no matter who's battle phase it is, you get to summon Rainbow Overdragon and send all seven different Crystal Beasts to the graveyard so you could make ot useful? I had to use them so that's how I know.
Playing Gusto in Duel Links. How many times have I seen the prompt "You could not activate x monster effect"
When syncro summoning.
Improving some cards
Dark Sage can float to Dark Magician and bring a Spell card from the gy
Red-Eyes Metal Dragon Gains metalmorph effect and unnafected by Spell and Trap cards
Wall Shadow Can attack in def position Unnafected by card effects, floats to a Gate Guardian ignoring summoning conditions
Dark sage only needs a new summoning Condition. His effect is already amazing
@@Drakorre Yeah, something like "if "Dark Magician" is destroyed by a card effect that doesn't specifically target it" to emulate the anime summon but be actually playable.
List idea, Worst Hero Monsters. You have the Fusion version, but one that encompasses all of them would be cool. Also thanks for the videos.
Because Dark Sage is special summoned from the deck by it’s own effect, when one is playing the game physically, they will have to search the deck for it when they want to activate it’s effect. What if you didn’t know if any copies of Dark Sage were still in your deck? For example, if you banished cards from the top of the deck face down, wouldn’t it be possible that when searching for a copy of Dark Sage in your deck, you might find none and have then performed a free search and possibly a shuffle of your deck? Can players look at their own banished face down cards to prevent this uncertainty?
Nice video. They should stop printing cards with such heavy requirements to special summon bad monsters. But you made me discover a card which make me want to tinker with(sorry) Box Of Friends.I think with a so rich game you won't lack of topics for your Top 10.
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@@j2c695 why is that funny?
Oh... i just realized that...
Wrong channel. Dzeeff is stupid anyway.
@@MrNiceGuy-hm4ly you can always edit your comment
Gusto Falco reminds me how much I don't like the idea that card effects can miss timing, it is really confusing when other good cards don't have this issue.
Yeah, as a Magic player I never understand the timing issue as Magic is written very clear cut with a lot of nomenclature which YGO doesn't have, which is kinda surprising.
I have used a gusto deck and I feel like Gusto Falco was originally meant to be used after synchro summoning, but due to poor wording, ruined its potential. It could have been broken if gusto cards in general were better.
Some card effects are made to miss timing, so i think "poor wording" its not the term you're looking for (i really like gustos tho)
@@majordukem fair enough. I always found the gustos to be fun and unique
Heard the passive aggressive 27% statistic looked and saw I was in subscribe. Big oof. Fixed now thanks
Wall Shadow mayyyy have worked at one time if it did not require the sacrifice of Magical Labyrinth, and Labyrinth had an effect of all attacks directed at Wall Shadow were re-directed to Labyrinth. To add balance, they could add like 3-4 shadow tokens that are the counters to how many hits Labyrinth could take on Shadow's behalf. But hey, that ship has sailed almost decades ago.
why isn't dark sage's effect if the coin toss fails? like the anime.
would actually make it better.
Then that removes any risk to Time Wizard's effect.
What? In the anime Joey got the toin coss right wich is why Dark magician turned into dark sage since time magician forwards time. Why should it activate when the toin coss fails ???
@@ddmacc because, if the opponent does it to you. and is right it should active.
if its right because it onnly effects your side of the field.
so if you get it wrong when you active it yourself. it only effecting your side of the field. so it should active then.
Wall Shadow is a quite early card that was meant to be played alongside Labyrinth of Nightmare, a continous trap that, during the end phase of each player, the current player has to change the battle position of each face up monster they control. This way you have an extra attack over Labyrinth Wall while still being able to defend. At that time players didn't had the plethora of backrow clearing and card removal we do have today, Still, Magical Labyrinth was awful. If you did draw Wall Shadow, you were unable to special summon it, since it allows you to do so only from the deck
The upgraded Bonding H2O reminds me of how Legendary Ocean pretty much replaces the field spell Umi since Legendary Ocean is treated as Umi and does everything Umi does, but better.
Every single card, on this list, is available in Duel Links :o
Konami! They sure love cards to bring out cards with bad effects
They've got to try and balance that game better than the TCG
Fun fact about Crop Circles: Its almost impossible to legally take the burn damage. This is because in order to activate the card you have to have a valid card remaining in your deck you could search with the levels available to you. This means that the only way to take the burn damage legally is for you to activate it and then another card is chained to it that removes all legal targets of that level from your deck.
It also means that in a tournament if you activate it and dont actually find a card you could search with the levels you used, youve made an illegal play and instead of taking the burn damage will lose the game.
Great vid DuelLogs! Poor Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon.
Man I love the art style of red eyes black metal dragon , it's my favorite in the whole game such a shame that it's a terrible card
Me seeing Wall Shadow top another Worst Cards list: "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?"
UFOroid frustrates me so much. This card would have been so good if it were level 4 especially in Speedroids
some cards can ONLY be special summoned from the deck if a metal card goes in your hand you literally cant summon it wall shadow has the effect only from the deck if if you draw it its completely useless old monsters forgot to put from HAND or deck and just did deck lol
Ok how does missing the timing work if there is no "you can" in the effect? Does the "you can" need to be there for the effect to miss the timing? Or does simply having a "when" in there make it miss timing regardless of whether or not the effect is optional?
„If“ effect do *not* miss timing. „when“ effects could possibly miss timing because the „when“ stands for a certain time, in gusto falcos case right after being sent to the graveyard, but right after gusto is sent to the GY a monster is summoned and therefore the requirement for his effect is not fullfilled. If there was in „if“ the only requirement is that it is sent to the GY which meand it does not matter how many effects are in between
Great vid and rankings!!👏👏✨✨
i feel it's worth mentioning that the intended way of summoning the familiar possessed cards is more likely by sacrificing the charmer and their respective familiar, in hiita's case inari fire, who can all special summon themselves from the hand if you have a spellcaster on the field
this doesn't make them good cards, but that fact won't stop them from being my favourite cards, i think they're cool concept, and i find their gimmick fun (no matter how terrible it'll ever be)
I still love the familiar possessed monsters and even try to build a deck around them
Damn Labyrinth Wall takes me back. I remember unironically using it all the time just to stall out until I could draw something good. Really thought it was a good card back then and couldn't make a deck without it
9:10 Oh boy Crystal Beast Amber Mammoth
His english voice still haunts me to this day
Talking about Rainbow life, there is a trap that literally fusion summons their fusion by milling 7 different crystal beasts to the grave. So that condition is not as hard to achieve as you said.
That being said, yeah CBs themselves are pretty bad.
@TheDuelLogs --So, one monster I think that should have been included in this list is Test Ape, where it's effect is similar to UFOroid where it can SS a Glad Beast that, instead of being 1500 atk or less, it's a lvl 4 or lower from the deck, but also does not include the effect that make Test Tiger and Test Panther so awesome, which is the part that the Glad Beast SS by the effect of the Test monster is treated as if were SS by another Glad Beast. If it had that effect, I'm pretty sure a lot of Glad Beast players would incorporate it into their decks, but without it, it's about as useful anymore as the field spell or any of the original equip spells.
Speaking of Glad Beasts, could you PLEASE do a top 10 WORST Glad Beasts. I think it would be awesome.
Thank you.
Magical Labyrinth is one of my fav old school cards, because Warrior Type Monster had more support than Rock even back in the day.
i actually really loved playing the Charmers in a old gravity bind stall I had back in the day, it wasn't much of a good deck but it was fun to play.
honestly Dark sage should summon itself even if you fail to call the right coin toss.
I like how 4 monsters cards from this list are from Duelist Kingdom lol. (Dark Sage, Metal Red eyes, Metal Zoa, Wall Shadow).
They had to make cards so bad just to fit the plot shenanigans of Duelist Kingdom.
How are you including carbuncle in the terrible Crystal Beasts. Cobalt Eagle I can understand because its a little situational, but Carbuncle is the big engine that Crystal Beasts use for swarming and recovery
"more, BETTER, Crystal Beast monsters"
Konami coming out with the Advanced Crystal Beasts: *"say no more"*
one day, we shall get that OP Wall Shadow support... one day...
@Deathborn666 But Duel logs said many times that any monster without immunity to destruction by battle, card effects and can float is a horrible monster.
Wall Shadow is so baffling, it’s like it was designed by someone who actually just didn’t know how the game works