I'm not British, but I think you guys need to have a look at how you decide your Honours List. People getting knighthoods just for party loyalty is ridiculous. Williamson is a prime example.
The whole system of patronage should be gotten rid of. Both houses of parliament should be elected. The honors system just continues the old boy network.
I have been bemused and befuddled for decades baffled in fact how anyone can credit the Tories with any credibility to begin with. All i can come up with is that some Brits hear a posh voice and think they should offer said person or clique some deference. Truly Little Britain syndrome.
@@katie-hy5zi Apparently Nigel Farage wanted to call it The New Brexit Party but was advised against it. Nigel should have stood up to those ' advisors' who bullied him.
Sunak would seem to have used a different dictionary or thesaurus from the rest of mankind when he looked up those famous words "integrity, professionalism, and accountability" that he keeps on spouting. Either that or he thinks he can con the rest of us into believing that "Braverman, Coffey, and Williamson" are what those words mean in practice.
Now that's just silly in Sunak's mind he is showing integrity (to his own specific set of values - which lack compassion and accountability). And I swear whenever I see Theresa Coffey I'm reminded of the Harry Potter Character Dolores Umbridge (described as a squat toad faced woman who incidentally is a stooge for the Ministry of Magic ) it's like see was made for the role... I keep watching her in morbid fascination waiting for her to lick her eyeballs whilst see squats there spouting her babble.
The tories don't know the meaning of the word "Conservative". Bunch of psychos with no feelings. Its way way beyond neoliberalism now, friends with Trump and Putin, more like a dictatorship, destroying democracy bit by bit
He must know something big to be "Knighted" by Johnson & given a top job by Sunak so yes it has to be blackmail surely. I cant think of a single reason he should be a "Sir" ? . Johnson is giving knighthoods out to silence many I think !
yaep the rumour is that Williamson was the man who saw Carrie giving Boris a special stress relief in his Parliament offices 4 years ago and helped cover up (apparently he has a habit of just walking straight into peoples rooms without knocking.) Remember in America when a President got caught in delicto flagrante and got impeached then effectivly drummed out of office? yeah we cover it up and then promote them
I once went for an interview in London for an IT buying job for Legal Aid. It was a series of tests and was well divised. However, the man in charge was the rudest, most onerous bullying man I had ever seen. He was not rude or bullying to me but to the staff of the hotel. I had no problem in walking away from this interview and finding the job that sustained me for 20 years until my retirement.
I work in a newsroom - I'm an editor. That kind of language does Not happen in newsrooms - there'd be formal action initiated by me if I heard any of our journalists talk like That (which, of course, they don't). There is no excuse or room for bullies in any profession or career. None.
Are you going to share with publication you’re the editor of? I’m a journalist graduate and one of the reasons why most of my peers didn’t go into journalism is because there aren’t many ‘journalists’ now. Nobody works on location, most people sit at their desk churning out a high volume of stories from what they’ve seen on social media. No wonder tough conversations don’t happen when you’re not doing proper investigative journalism anymore.
@@theattackdog1803 If you characterise telling someone to slit their throat or jump out of a window as a "tough conversation" instead of calling it what it is - abhorrent - maybe it's best you're not in that newsroom
@@antlermagick it’s weird that your only point is to infer that I’m suggesting that Williamson’s comment qualifies as a tough conversation. It’s not even a conversation is it? It’s a comment that’s been reported so you would be best to understand the difference.
The term "The Whip" comes with its own implication of a threat of violence and shows that bullying is written into the fabric of parliament. Perhaps this engrained and histroric mentality of bullying is what helps create an atmosphere where some people think it is to be taken literaly
Be careful about imposing your modern perspective on old terms. Whip cracks were used to signal to horses pulling carriages when driving and according to Wikipedia the term is taken from the "whipper-in" during a hunt, who tries to prevent hounds from wandering away from a hunting pack.
@@RobBCactive In the examples you give both leave the horse and the dog in a state of fear as neither understand the sharp cracking sound at their ear. Whatever way you look at it, from human to animal, the use of a whip is to instill fear, pain or control over an entity that can be bullied by the whip bearer.
@@monkeyfunk8371 "at their ear" is not likely, but at least you're admitting the modern S/M imagination might not be the origin of the use. It's a step down from violence, but I am convinced old animal care standards left much to be desired and I have witnessed cruelty to a fallen cart horse in a foreign street. My point is perception by people at that time would differ from your modern perspective.
Whips are so anti democratic as well - hey you can vote how you feel but it better be following party lines! Democracy in this country has fallen so far. Partly we're to blame - we're told it's our civic duty to vote but then not encouraged to do anything else - we had our say at the elections we don't get other methods. You could write to your local MP but depending on topic, leanings and personal viewpoints it's quite possible that nothing happens. And Now they even want to take away our right to protest (or get locked in prison - probably a private one run by an old school mate, family or other close personal acquaintance.
At junior school, in my first year age 7, our teacher was a young man who regularly would use a three-foot wooden ruler against the backs of a "naughty" child's legs, or the palms of hands, but worst of all, he would grab the child by the shoulders and shake till their eyes rolled. I know this, because it happened to me. Years later, I told my mother about it; she was horrified and devastated in turns, and wanted to know why on earth I hadn't told her at the time. My reason? When a different teacher did the same things to my older brother, he did tell mum. She stormed into school and threatened to rip the headteacher's head from her shoulders and beat her to death with it. No teacher touched my brother again. When my teacher shook me till I rattled, he made it clear that if my mother turned up at school over it, my life wouldn't be worth living. I was seven. My mum would have gone to prison to defend her children, so why didn't I tell her? Because the teacher was a very large male and the only adult in the room, and I hadn't yet worked out that kids can't always trust the adult in the room to look after them. I had that man for the first two years of junior school, and then we moved to a different part of the country, and I never experienced that again. I try not to think about that time, until someone else has a similar memory. Do children ever really recover from an experience like that? Personally, I don't think I have.
dear lady heart felt thoughts . for me it was 1970s secondary school it was not the teachers but prefects that the teachers knowingly put into their place for the bullying
Gavin is a gaslighting Grifter as are most of the current crop of Tories. He's all, what you are seeing and what you are hearing is not what's happening. Mischaracterisation pfft
One of Sunak's first comments on becoming prime minister was to announce that his "government" would be one of "integrity"..... Aye, right....... as we say up here.
I remember being smacked once when I was very young. I don’t remember what I did to “deserve” it. When I had 2 small sons I was quick to notice that if I smacked son1 he would turn round and hit son2. I stopped. In fact I made a bargain that I would never punish him as long as he told me the truth. I brought up 2 sons who I am very proud of.
As a manager, I always took the ethics that respect must be earned and not demanded. This isn't just rhetoric. It is the difference between a harmonious, successful organisation, and a disjointed, festering organisation. Bullies demand respect. The true face of the modern Conservative party is coalescing. It explains a lot. And every now and then, the mask slips. Gavin Williamson is the personalisation of events that took place during the vote on fracking a few weeks ago. To prove my point, show me one senior member of the government who you can say have earned their position.
I have come late to your conversation. Thank you for being clear in your speech and helping me to curb my anger and gain clear insight into our present terrible position politic leaders are taking. I now have a place to come to listen to some sense.
The mental scars I suffered at school still give me nightmares 30 years later, my favourite writer JG Ballard put his scars in his writing but they never truly go away.
I used to get regular 'beatings up' when I was a kid ( not at home, I hasten to add!) at school by various agents, either by the other kids or, indirectly, by the teachers encouraging them. It did me a great deal of harm without me recognizing it until it was almost too late. It made me distrustful, cynical, dismissive and cold. With the benefit of help and insight, I'm starting (I hope) to recover, although I will always have that layer of cynicism and I have to admit it's served me well! Expect the worst of people, they never fail to deliver, but now I can appreciate that when people DO show their best, it's like a Sunrise in the dark.
Very bad behaviour is more prevalent in today’s politics now. In the US childish vindictive behaviour is the flavour of the day with most Republicans. This has emboldened and attracted Violent threatening behaviour with their supporters which would have been unthinkable a decade ago.😢
I'm really proud of you: I've just gotten into LBC lately (I live in middle of USA) and had no idea the extent of your worldview shift. I appreciate you talking about the evolution of your views through your lifespan.
WOW! Great confession on Corporal Punishment! My reaction was to go insane at anyone who hit a kid once I became a teacher ... to the point that bullied kids looked for me rather than go to their own teacher or the Head.
He's like the majority of the cabinet - he got into a postion of power without any talent, and that makes them deluded and arrogant. They know even if they get sacked they'll be back once they offer a trite apology and claim that they've 'learnt their lesson'.
I had hopes for the redemption of the Tories once Rishi took over. Yes, I know he was somewhat tainted by his on-going support of our third-rate Trump, Joris, but there was a suggestion of a crumb of decency when he was amongst the first to decide enough was enough. Though to my mind it took him far, far too long to reach that conclusion. Those hopes took something of a battering when he re-appointed Braverman but politically I sort of understood his intentions; not to say I agree with bringing her back but I can see what he was trying to do. This whole sorry debacle with Williamson though is beyond the pale and I agree totally with everything you've said about life in politics being tough, what a load of utter piffle that suggestion is. Civil servants do 90% of the work, under normal governance, and the ministers present that work as if it is their own. If you can't manage or persuade people to work for you without bullying and threats you really should not be managing people. If you think it's ok to scream at people and belittle them in front of others you really should not be managing people. The Tories have totally lost their way; the cabinet is full of feckless cretins and sycophants. The Tories are bereft of ideas and talent. A decade of botched policies, clueless governance and people only interested in furthering their own gain rather than looking after the interests of the country is enough. The country is in a shambolic state by almost any tangible measurement you can find, almost inconceivably worse than when they came to power. I will be totally and utterly bemused if they are not all but decimated in the next GE.
Well when Boris, refused to Sack the bully Priti Patel after an investigation in to allegations of serious bullying within the Home Office, concluded that she was a bully and had bullied staff on multiple occasions, then you can conclude that the Tory leadership is obviously ok with bullying within the party, as long as the person doing the bullying, is of use to the PM, the government and the Party. By not condemning and sacking known bullies and appointing them to cabinet positions, the Tory party has sent a clear message to those within their ranks that such behaviour is acceptable and in some cases will even be rewarded. Imagine how the victims of these bullies must feel seeing the perpetrators of their abuse getting rewarded with a cabinet position or even a Knighthood in Williamson's case. Sunak clearly seems to have done grubby deals with at least 2 cabinet ministers, for supporting him, despite both being known national security risks & having to have previously resigned for breaches of the ministerial code. Where people have broken the ministerial code, they should be sacked from their position and should be barred from any cabinet positions for a minimum of 5 years. Depending on the severity of the breach, that ban could be extended to a permanent ban from cabinet positions. I also think that an MP found to have breached the ministerial code should be sacked (not allowed to resign) and their seat in parliament should face a by election between the other parties and a new candidate for the party of the sacked MP. Perhaps if there was genuine accountability for breaking workplace rules and for breaching standards in public office, then people would begin to gain some respect for the politicians and the political process. At present there is a party in power, that is full of inept bullies, with no mandate from the people, who are wholly out of ideas, out of their depth, have destroyed our economy and should be out of time. If they had a shred of integrity or decency they would call a general election. They won't do that though because they are going to put their political party over the needs of the country, just as Rishi Sunak put his own needs to become PM over the Security of the UK and the feelings of the victims of a known bully. In my honest opinion, he has shown his decision making cannot be trusted and just like the rest of the Tory government is unfit for office.
A lot of us think exactly the same thing. The whole House of Lords needs to be replaced by something more suited to the modern world. Many of the members are descendants of illegitimate children of monarchs from centuries past, or had ancestors that "did favours" for Kings in history. Then there are the half dozen or so Bishops from the Church of England. So much for separation of church and state.
Imagine a political party where appointing the likes of Williamson is the kind of thing you have to do to garner "support"... A truly inadequate little man.
It is very brutal and criminal as a superior in a workplace to tell an employee to slit their throat, if you said this in the US to a worker you'd be sued but here in the UK nothing? and even an offer of severance pay in the UK, you deserve nothing when you say horrendous stuff like this to someone working under you. The UK needs to wake up with it's grievance procedures and it's legislation in the workplace. This is how you bring the UK down to the gutter.
In most if not all companies in the UK you would also be out on your ear, but Parliament has a different set of rules because they are a "historical" institution who make up what they want to do.
Getting litigious is not the answer. I've never worked for an employer where this would be acceptable. Because it's not acceptable. Only in the Tories.
@@markbriten6999 I have witnessed in companies in the UK greivance procedures that keep the bully in the job. The UK workplace grievance procedures and ACAS input is not that refined and does not hold weight for the one making a complaint and even the UK legislation around this is too loose and not developed enough.
@@waverleyjournalise5757 This is not entirely accurate ACAS and workplace grievance procedures based on UK legislation is too loose around bullying and threats. They throw it into areas of law like discrimination etc, there should be an act that is scopes bullying into a number of areas like threats and scales danger aspects for injunctions.
On violence against children, those who say “It didn’t do me any harm.” have normalised violence against children. This is in and of itself evidence of harm.
I like this channel and your take on things. You should also cover the statement made by the PM on COP27 and the Q&A post the statement. I care more about government action on climate change rather than the pseudo intellectualisation of who texted what to whom? Let’s please focus on important things that affects the country. It’s important for MPs to behave professionally but the air time given to this is disproportionately high. Hate this media discourse.
Braverman is far, far, FAR worse, because her position has actual, real power. Williamson's didn't. Home Secretary is essentially the most powerful office in the land behind the PM, and arguably the Chancellor.
@@TalesOfWar don't disagree but sometimes it depends upon place and time. If you are the one being bullied, at that point it will feel terrible and possibly frightening. That aside my point was something new has taken attention away from Braverman and will help her survive in position.
@@Human_Herbivore Totally agree. My comment was more on a broader level rather than the individual level this would be. In that situation I think most people would be understandably shaken being attacked by this monster.
If there's one man who completely discredited the knighthood, it's this disgusting Gavin Williamson. The system could try redeem it by withdrawing the knighthood from this thurd.
I never went to public school,I went thru the state system from 1958 to 1969,corporal punishment was still in use,& yes I got caned & slippered, not @ primary school,but did @ secondary school. It had little effect on me,but I got caned @ home. But it does seem that public school boys seem to think they can do what they like.
And they will tell us that Sunak is innocent enough not to have known all these facts!!!!. Were there no more talents in the Con. Party that makes sense or at least can hide their dark side????.
either he knew (we all think he did) or he didn't (but knew there was something going on and didn't push it)...which makes him either at worst complicit or at best totally incompetent
Williamson is the typical person who bullies other people but is so sensitive that he was practically crying over a perceived slight in regards to invitation to the Queen's funeral.
I was repulsed by the words he used. Where in any persons mind would those words come from? Very dark. Its his family I feel sorry for can you imagine how he behaves behind closed doors! Maybe I've read too deep into it, but I'd be very worried living under the same roof with someone who had these thoughts and felt it ok to verbally attack someone. 🤯
The question i have is....If he is such a bully for such a long time, why has nobody smashed his face in? If he even tried bullying me, he'd me eating his meals through a straw for a while
Imagine his behaviour if you inadvertantly cut him up "in his warped perception" whilst driving? I'm minded to behave like Williamson, Braverman, Coffey, Rees-Mogg et al in the supermarket when I shop next and see what happens ...
Excellent comments as usual James. How do these public figures get away with it for so long. Time I think for a General Election for, although I voted Conservative at the last election, this bunch of hypocrites are not worth the walk to the polling station. However, I can't vote for Keir Starmer and for the first time since I was eligible to vote, I am at a loss. Are any of the Parties worth my 'tick in the box' ? I leave myself looking towards Reform.
When I look at Britain these days, the song "Saigon" by Billy Joel springs to my mind and specifically the line "And we will all go down together". Britain is just on that path in any respect.
The photo of him with the whip on his desk. The spider he deliberately kept on the desk in his office when he was Chief Whip. The dismal performance as Education Secretary, the sackings from Government and they still gave him a Knighthood!!! Can I have one please? I imagine they come in quite handy.
It is time to stop treating politicians like they are celebrities to be gossiped about and joked about they are public servants and they are paid very well for that job. They should not be doing additional jobs and earning huge amounts more than the people they are meant to serve
When somebody says 'getting a smack wen I was a kid didn't do me any harm', they don't realise that it affected them so much that they think that hitting children is ok.
The race to the bottom is seemingly speeding up, it's becoming difficult to see whether the winner will be the GOP in the US or the Conservative party.
My English teacher back in the mid 90s told a disruptive class mate to get out of the class and jump off the balcony. We were on the 3rd floor. It just so happened that the storage room was on the ground floor just below her class and this day they were cleaning it out. When he looked over he saw the high jump mats were out. So he called out to her and when she looked up he jumped. The woman turned white and nearly fainted. I think it was the last time she ever told a pupil to jump off the balcony.
Such behaviour that is part of a pattern, is deeply, deeply concerning and points towards someone who has the psychology of a perpetrator who has no concerns about inflicting fear and dread upon others in order to get his own way. In the realms of the courts and relationships, this man would be subject to a non molestation order and BANNED from contacting those who have been abused. The stories that have come out in the press suggests that he is of this ilk and has no place in Parliament. A man who resorts to a spider on his desk to subliminally threaten others isn't fit for ANY public office and he should be stripped of his knighthood forthwith and ejected from the party.
The tragedy is that Sunak put him there! And Cruella sits there nodding !!! Yes it's beyond comprehension. I'm going to listen again just to hear my thoughts spoken aloud much better than I could ever express!
Something that amazes me about Gavin Williamson's appointment isn't the bullying or that he tries so hard to be seen as a tough guy, it's that he's clearly absolutely incompetent. He was apparently referred to as "private Pike" by some ministers and has never been anything close to being able to do his job in government . I can't understand why anyone would employ someone who has been publicly proven time and time again that he just isn't up to the task.
It's strange that Sunak knew Williamson was under investigation but never found out why before he appointed him to the cabinet. Would not that be the first thing you would inquire into before he appointed him? And Sunak thanked him and was sorry to see him go....how strange.
I'm not British, but I think you guys need to have a look at how you decide your Honours List. People getting knighthoods just for party loyalty is ridiculous. Williamson is a prime example.
Couldn't agree more. The Old Boy Network flourishes still.
The whole system of patronage should be gotten rid of. Both houses of parliament should be elected.
The honors system just continues the old boy network.
Better yet, abolish knighthoods. They're a relic and hardly a proud part of our cultural heritage.
It's all a load of b*ll*x😂
The tories claim that’s not why he was knighted. It’s up to each person if they actually believe that or not.
As a survivor of the public school system your words about burying your vulnerabilities deep resonated with me.
Do you think public schools are bad and detrimental to the UK as a whole?
Wish we’d change the laws and elect him as president of the USA
The credibility of the Tory Party as a whole haas been ruined, they should do us all a favour and hold a general election
Self destruct would be a better option.
..yep....we need to get that red flag proudly flying again..totally agree.
I have been bemused and befuddled for decades baffled in fact how anyone can credit the Tories with any credibility to begin with. All i can come up with is that some Brits hear a posh voice and think they should offer said person or clique some deference. Truly Little Britain syndrome.
@@chatham43 Labour and Tory, no thanks! We need a new party, Reform Uk..
@@katie-hy5zi Apparently Nigel Farage wanted to call it The New Brexit Party but was advised against it.
Nigel should have stood up to those ' advisors' who bullied him.
Sunak would seem to have used a different dictionary or thesaurus from the rest of mankind when he looked up those famous words "integrity, professionalism, and accountability" that he keeps on spouting. Either that or he thinks he can con the rest of us into believing that "Braverman, Coffey, and Williamson" are what those words mean in practice.
Now that's just silly in Sunak's mind he is showing integrity (to his own specific set of values - which lack compassion and accountability). And I swear whenever I see Theresa Coffey I'm reminded of the Harry Potter Character Dolores Umbridge (described as a squat toad faced woman who incidentally is a stooge for the Ministry of Magic ) it's like see was made for the role... I keep watching her in morbid fascination waiting for her to lick her eyeballs whilst see squats there spouting her babble.
The tories don't know the meaning of the word "Conservative". Bunch of psychos with no feelings. Its way way beyond neoliberalism now, friends with Trump and Putin, more like a dictatorship, destroying democracy bit by bit
He must know something big to be "Knighted" by Johnson & given a top job by Sunak so yes it has to be blackmail surely. I cant think of a single reason he should be a "Sir" ? . Johnson is giving knighthoods out to silence many I think !
There's a widespread rumour about what Williamson knows/saw as to why he got elevated.
Johnson shouldn't have been able to nominate anyone for a knighthood least of all Williamson.
yaep the rumour is that Williamson was the man who saw Carrie giving Boris a special stress relief in his Parliament offices 4 years ago and helped cover up (apparently he has a habit of just walking straight into peoples rooms without knocking.) Remember in America when a President got caught in delicto flagrante and got impeached then effectivly drummed out of office? yeah we cover it up and then promote them
its always been that way...labour are just as bad
I once went for an interview in London for an IT buying job for Legal Aid. It was a series of tests and was well divised. However, the man in charge was the rudest, most onerous bullying man I had ever seen. He was not rude or bullying to me but to the staff of the hotel. I had no problem in walking away from this interview and finding the job that sustained me for 20 years until my retirement.
Should of cracked him one.
Will sleep easy tonight knowing this pal!!!
@@liamdonnelly1034 Rude.
Well the Tories have rebranded politeness as "woke" and it's now evil. So here we are.
@@liamdonnelly1034 Or you could not be a wazzock.
'we all know someone like that' yes we do, and they're vile.
James is one !
I work in a newsroom - I'm an editor. That kind of language does Not happen in newsrooms - there'd be formal action initiated by me if I heard any of our journalists talk like That (which, of course, they don't). There is no excuse or room for bullies in any profession or career. None.
Are you going to share with publication you’re the editor of? I’m a journalist graduate and one of the reasons why most of my peers didn’t go into journalism is because there aren’t many ‘journalists’ now.
Nobody works on location, most people sit at their desk churning out a high volume of stories from what they’ve seen on social media.
No wonder tough conversations don’t happen when you’re not doing proper investigative journalism anymore.
@@theattackdog1803 If you characterise telling someone to slit their throat or jump out of a window as a "tough conversation" instead of calling it what it is - abhorrent - maybe it's best you're not in that newsroom
@@antlermagick it’s weird that your only point is to infer that I’m suggesting that Williamson’s comment qualifies as a tough conversation. It’s not even a conversation is it? It’s a comment that’s been reported so you would be best to understand the difference.
@Van Brighouseright 👍🏼
@@theattackdog1803 pass with 2:2 did you?
The term "The Whip" comes with its own implication of a threat of violence and shows that bullying is written into the fabric of parliament. Perhaps this engrained and histroric mentality of bullying is what helps create an atmosphere where some people think it is to be taken literaly
Fantastic point this imo
Be careful about imposing your modern perspective on old terms.
Whip cracks were used to signal to horses pulling carriages when driving and according to Wikipedia the term is taken from the "whipper-in" during a hunt, who tries to prevent hounds from wandering away from a hunting pack.
@@RobBCactive In the examples you give both leave the horse and the dog in a state of fear as neither understand the sharp cracking sound at their ear. Whatever way you look at it, from human to animal, the use of a whip is to instill fear, pain or control over an entity that can be bullied by the whip bearer.
@@monkeyfunk8371 "at their ear" is not likely, but at least you're admitting the modern S/M imagination might not be the origin of the use.
It's a step down from violence, but I am convinced old animal care standards left much to be desired and I have witnessed cruelty to a fallen cart horse in a foreign street.
My point is perception by people at that time would differ from your modern perspective.
Whips are so anti democratic as well - hey you can vote how you feel but it better be following party lines! Democracy in this country has fallen so far. Partly we're to blame - we're told it's our civic duty to vote but then not encouraged to do anything else - we had our say at the elections we don't get other methods. You could write to your local MP but depending on topic, leanings and personal viewpoints it's quite possible that nothing happens.
And Now they even want to take away our right to protest (or get locked in prison - probably a private one run by an old school mate, family or other close personal acquaintance.
What on earth qualified Gavin Williamson to be anywhere near the cabinet.
Blind loyalty and a lack of ethics, that very well suits the kind of politicians currently leading the Tory party
a yes yes yes man?
Lack of a better option?
Dirt on rishi or whoever
Perhaps they thought he could give them a discount on a new fireplace?
And Got A Knighthood Out Of It.........
At junior school, in my first year age 7, our teacher was a young man who regularly would use a three-foot wooden ruler against the backs of a "naughty" child's legs, or the palms of hands, but worst of all, he would grab the child by the shoulders and shake till their eyes rolled. I know this, because it happened to me. Years later, I told my mother about it; she was horrified and devastated in turns, and wanted to know why on earth I hadn't told her at the time. My reason? When a different teacher did the same things to my older brother, he did tell mum. She stormed into school and threatened to rip the headteacher's head from her shoulders and beat her to death with it. No teacher touched my brother again. When my teacher shook me till I rattled, he made it clear that if my mother turned up at school over it, my life wouldn't be worth living.
I was seven. My mum would have gone to prison to defend her children, so why didn't I tell her? Because the teacher was a very large male and the only adult in the room, and I hadn't yet worked out that kids can't always trust the adult in the room to look after them.
I had that man for the first two years of junior school, and then we moved to a different part of the country, and I never experienced that again.
I try not to think about that time, until someone else has a similar memory. Do children ever really recover from an experience like that? Personally, I don't think I have.
Hello Pinky/Roger Waters. 👍😎
The Tories want this to return.
A teacher then
was a man amongst children
but a mouse amongst men.
@@huwzebediahthomas9193 Sorry, what?
dear lady heart felt thoughts . for me it was 1970s secondary school it was not the teachers but prefects that the teachers knowingly put into their place for the bullying
Gavin is a gaslighting Grifter as are most of the current crop of Tories. He's all, what you are seeing and what you are hearing is not what's happening. Mischaracterisation pfft
‘Never did me any harm’ is arguably evidence, in itself, that it did.
"Cowards and muppets" , well said James 🤣🤣
That's an insult to the Muppets 😂
@Paul Conway You don't know what woke means you annoying little brat.
One of Sunak's first comments on becoming prime minister was to announce that his "government" would be one of "integrity"..... Aye, right....... as we say up here.
Arr reyt.
I genuinely laughed at out loud when he said that in front of Number 10. He's a Tory, his lips are moving so it must be a lie.
Go get em James !
If I had said that to a former employee I would have been sacked and calling the police. Oh i forget MPs are above us.
in every other walk of life he would not be in charge of the toilets
I remember being smacked once when I was very young. I don’t remember what I did to “deserve” it. When I had 2 small sons I was quick to notice that if I smacked son1 he would turn round and hit son2. I stopped. In fact I made a bargain that I would never punish him as long as he told me the truth. I brought up 2 sons who I am very proud of.
The saddest thing is that I'm not even shocked anymore. I'm sure millions feel the same.
Few things have happened since 2016 with this government that have genuinely shocked me. I guess I'm more shocked at my lack of shock at this point.
No one should be treated like this at any point let alone in their place of work !!!!
As a manager, I always took the ethics that respect must be earned and not demanded.
This isn't just rhetoric. It is the difference between a harmonious, successful organisation, and a disjointed, festering organisation.
Bullies demand respect.
The true face of the modern Conservative party is coalescing.
It explains a lot. And every now and then, the mask slips. Gavin Williamson is the personalisation of events that took place during the vote on fracking a few weeks ago.
To prove my point, show me one senior member of the government who you can say have earned their position.
Spot on!
Err err have you got a couple of years?
Suella and Gavin, both known security risks, were given positions by Rishi. How many unknown risks has he appointed?
That is two too many.
Don’t forget pritti
@@frothe42 One can be an accident, two can be carelessness, a third? That would be a pattern.
@@MrWhodini22 I agree, it is a pattern.
I have come late to your conversation. Thank you for being clear in your speech and helping me to curb my anger and gain clear insight into our present terrible position politic leaders are taking. I now have a place to come to listen to some sense.
what Lucy said, exactly
The mental scars I suffered at school still give me nightmares 30 years later, my favourite writer JG Ballard put his scars in his writing but they never truly go away.
When your own side hate you, you really do have problems.
yeh they hate or else they wouldnt bring immigrants in at all. They love the cheapness of immigrant labour more then the labour of their fellow brit
I used to get regular 'beatings up' when I was a kid ( not at home, I hasten to add!) at school by various agents, either by the other kids or, indirectly, by the teachers encouraging them. It did me a great deal of harm without me recognizing it until it was almost too late. It made me distrustful, cynical, dismissive and cold. With the benefit of help and insight, I'm starting (I hope) to recover, although I will always have that layer of cynicism and I have to admit it's served me well! Expect the worst of people, they never fail to deliver, but now I can appreciate that when people DO show their best, it's like a Sunrise in the dark.
Unfortunately, Rishi's cabinet appears to contain a whole host of undesirable individuals.
Very bad behaviour is more prevalent in today’s politics now. In the US childish vindictive behaviour is the flavour of the day with most Republicans. This has emboldened and attracted Violent threatening behaviour with their supporters which would have been unthinkable a decade ago.😢
I'm really proud of you: I've just gotten into LBC lately (I live in middle of USA) and had no idea the extent of your worldview shift. I appreciate you talking about the evolution of your views through your lifespan.
WOW! Great confession on Corporal Punishment! My reaction was to go insane at anyone who hit a kid once I became a teacher ... to the point that bullied kids looked for me rather than go to their own teacher or the Head.
He's like the majority of the cabinet - he got into a postion of power without any talent, and that makes them deluded and arrogant. They know even if they get sacked they'll be back once they offer a trite apology and claim that they've 'learnt their lesson'.
I had hopes for the redemption of the Tories once Rishi took over. Yes, I know he was somewhat tainted by his on-going support of our third-rate Trump, Joris, but there was a suggestion of a crumb of decency when he was amongst the first to decide enough was enough. Though to my mind it took him far, far too long to reach that conclusion. Those hopes took something of a battering when he re-appointed Braverman but politically I sort of understood his intentions; not to say I agree with bringing her back but I can see what he was trying to do. This whole sorry debacle with Williamson though is beyond the pale and I agree totally with everything you've said about life in politics being tough, what a load of utter piffle that suggestion is. Civil servants do 90% of the work, under normal governance, and the ministers present that work as if it is their own. If you can't manage or persuade people to work for you without bullying and threats you really should not be managing people. If you think it's ok to scream at people and belittle them in front of others you really should not be managing people. The Tories have totally lost their way; the cabinet is full of feckless cretins and sycophants. The Tories are bereft of ideas and talent. A decade of botched policies, clueless governance and people only interested in furthering their own gain rather than looking after the interests of the country is enough. The country is in a shambolic state by almost any tangible measurement you can find, almost inconceivably worse than when they came to power. I will be totally and utterly bemused if they are not all but decimated in the next GE.
but the true blues will all come out of the woods come election day to see them back in power.
Well said.👍👍👍👍
You are absolutely 💯 spot on. Brilliant appraisal of this current state of the Tories.
Well when Boris, refused to Sack the bully Priti Patel after an investigation in to allegations of serious bullying within the Home Office, concluded that she was a bully and had bullied staff on multiple occasions, then you can conclude that the Tory leadership is obviously ok with bullying within the party, as long as the person doing the bullying, is of use to the PM, the government and the Party.
By not condemning and sacking known bullies and appointing them to cabinet positions, the Tory party has sent a clear message to those within their ranks that such behaviour is acceptable and in some cases will even be rewarded.
Imagine how the victims of these bullies must feel seeing the perpetrators of their abuse getting rewarded with a cabinet position or even a Knighthood in Williamson's case.
Sunak clearly seems to have done grubby deals with at least 2 cabinet ministers, for supporting him, despite both being known national security risks & having to have previously resigned for breaches of the ministerial code.
Where people have broken the ministerial code, they should be sacked from their position and should be barred from any cabinet positions for a minimum of 5 years. Depending on the severity of the breach, that ban could be extended to a permanent ban from cabinet positions. I also think that an MP found to have breached the ministerial code should be sacked (not allowed to resign) and their seat in parliament should face a by election between the other parties and a new candidate for the party of the sacked MP.
Perhaps if there was genuine accountability for breaking workplace rules and for breaching standards in public office, then people would begin to gain some respect for the politicians and the political process. At present there is a party in power, that is full of inept bullies, with no mandate from the people, who are wholly out of ideas, out of their depth, have destroyed our economy and should be out of time. If they had a shred of integrity or decency they would call a general election. They won't do that though because they are going to put their political party over the needs of the country, just as Rishi Sunak put his own needs to become PM over the Security of the UK and the feelings of the victims of a known bully. In my honest opinion, he has shown his decision making cannot be trusted and just like the rest of the Tory government is unfit for office.
Are you interested in buying a bridge?
thankx for your honesty, awareness, and humanity!
A lot of us think exactly the same thing. The whole House of Lords needs to be replaced by something more suited to the modern world. Many of the members are descendants of illegitimate children of monarchs from centuries past, or had ancestors that "did favours" for Kings in history. Then there are the half dozen or so Bishops from the Church of England. So much for separation of church and state.
Imagine a political party where appointing the likes of Williamson is the kind of thing you have to do to garner "support"... A truly inadequate little man.
To me it sounds as if Williamson had some dirt on Sunak
And won't that be fun when it comes out. A fourth PM in 6 months. Surely not.
@@clairewilson524 It wont come out Lord Gavin of Bullenden will be far too busy in the lords.
@@clairewilson524 Someone in PMQ shouted "Bring back the lettuce". It wasn't loud enough to be heard by all so didn't cause a ruckus.
He doesn’t actually need dirt on Sunak he just has to have enough dirt on any recalcitrant MP to fall in line with Sunak’s wishes
It's public knowledge that he's a tax-dodging wannabe yank. I shudder to think what it could be.
Imagine what he was like at school, once a bully, always a bully!!!
It is very brutal and criminal as a superior in a workplace to tell an employee to slit their throat, if you said this in the US to a worker you'd be sued but here in the UK nothing? and even an offer of severance pay in the UK, you deserve nothing when you say horrendous stuff like this to someone working under you. The UK needs to wake up with it's grievance procedures and it's legislation in the workplace. This is how you bring the UK down to the gutter.
I don't know in most companies you'd be out the door
In most if not all companies in the UK you would also be out on your ear, but Parliament has a different set of rules because they are a "historical" institution who make up what they want to do.
Getting litigious is not the answer. I've never worked for an employer where this would be acceptable. Because it's not acceptable. Only in the Tories.
@@markbriten6999 I have witnessed in companies in the UK greivance procedures that keep the bully in the job. The UK workplace grievance procedures and ACAS input is not that refined and does not hold weight for the one making a complaint and even the UK legislation around this is too loose and not developed enough.
@@waverleyjournalise5757 This is not entirely accurate ACAS and workplace grievance procedures based on UK legislation is too loose around bullying and threats. They throw it into areas of law like discrimination etc, there should be an act that is scopes bullying into a number of areas like threats and scales danger aspects for injunctions.
On violence against children, those who say “It didn’t do me any harm.” have normalised violence against children. This is in and of itself evidence of harm.
What I have found is that what goes around comes around and I see this all the time?
With this lot in charge, that doesn't happen nearly enough.
I honestly thought that "In the thick of it" was histrionic, over the top and basically a caricature. Silly me.
Surely now, if the title of "sir" means anything to any of us, their should be a petition for him to lose his knighthood.
Kids going to school in fear of the beating they might get from several teachers is and was never right.
thanks James
Power doesn't corrupt... power reveals
Williamson keeps getting Cabinet positions because of the contents of his much flaunted book of skeletons. He’s a blackmailer.
how did i just find you? such great discourse
His mates will have him back in government.
Leave me alone in a room with 'Sir' Gavin for five minutes, and I will 'discuss' certain things with him....
😎👍
Aahhh...but those types never try it on with someone who they know can floor them. In a "discussing" sort of a way 😎
Then it's my turn.
Then me....please bully me Gavin. What a pathetic loser
in the words of Tango & Cash: "you bring the chainsaw... I'll bring the beer."
Oh dear, the quality of our politicians, says it all really.
And then…. Somebody thought he should be knighted!
People really had faith in Rishi Sunak... blimey. I still can't get my head round that!
The problem with the Tories is that many of them genuinely believe that this is how you govern.
Bullying is rife in all political parties I suspect.
I like this channel and your take on things. You should also cover the statement made by the PM on COP27 and the Q&A post the statement. I care more about government action on climate change rather than the pseudo intellectualisation of who texted what to whom? Let’s please focus on important things that affects the country. It’s important for MPs to behave professionally but the air time given to this is disproportionately high. Hate this media discourse.
Seems they've managed to move us on from Braverman by having somebody else, possibly even worse.
Braverman is far, far, FAR worse, because her position has actual, real power. Williamson's didn't. Home Secretary is essentially the most powerful office in the land behind the PM, and arguably the Chancellor.
@@TalesOfWar don't disagree but sometimes it depends upon place and time. If you are the one being bullied, at that point it will feel terrible and possibly frightening.
That aside my point was something new has taken attention away from Braverman and will help her survive in position.
@@Human_Herbivore Totally agree. My comment was more on a broader level rather than the individual level this would be. In that situation I think most people would be understandably shaken being attacked by this monster.
If there's one man who completely discredited the knighthood, it's this disgusting Gavin Williamson. The system could try redeem it by withdrawing the knighthood from this thurd.
I never went to public school,I went thru the state system from 1958 to 1969,corporal punishment was still in use,& yes I got caned & slippered, not @ primary school,but did @ secondary school. It had little effect on me,but I got caned @ home.
But it does seem that public school boys seem to think they can do what they like.
As happens Gavin went to a comprehensive….but I do agree with your point!!
“Slit your throat” sounds exactly like something out of The Thick Of It.
And they will tell us that Sunak is innocent enough not to have known all these facts!!!!. Were there no more talents in the Con. Party that makes sense or at least can hide their dark side????.
either he knew (we all think he did) or he didn't (but knew there was something going on and didn't push it)...which makes him either at worst complicit or at best totally incompetent
excellent. very much appreciate your own reflections on this side of life too.
another who resigned only because he was caught
I used to be a that never did me any harm trumpeter. How wrong I was. Thank you for sharing that James.
But suela got a pass for the migrant home condition torture
I will hazard a guess and say it comes with a payoff for resigning as well.
Williamson is the typical person who bullies other people but is so sensitive that he was practically crying over a perceived slight in regards to invitation to the Queen's funeral.
Gavin is as James Bond as my pet garden slug.
James Bond = useful
Pet garden slug = useful
Gavin ....
7:09 - Hey, c’mon now, don’t bring delicious custard into this 😅
WE NEED , NEED , NEED , AND INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TO MAKE SOME ATTEMPT AT RESTRAINING THIS OLD BOYS CLUB
I was repulsed by the words he used.
Where in any persons mind would those words come from?
Very dark.
Its his family I feel sorry for can you imagine how he behaves behind closed doors!
Maybe I've read too deep into it, but I'd be very worried living under the same roof with someone who had these thoughts and felt it ok to verbally attack someone. 🤯
Am I really supposed to call someone like this Sir? Awful government
The question i have is....If he is such a bully for such a long time, why has nobody smashed his face in? If he even tried bullying me, he'd me eating his meals through a straw for a while
I know what you mean, he's a little weasle of a human being
My thoughts exactly.
@@davidmajor5393 complete waste of skin
It took one individual with enough moral courage to expose what had probably been many years of being a mean spirited lowlife bully.
Imagine his behaviour if you inadvertantly cut him up "in his warped perception" whilst driving?
I'm minded to behave like Williamson, Braverman, Coffey, Rees-Mogg et al in the supermarket when I shop next and see what happens ...
He would not say boo to a man's face - guessing he was bullied at school! Can this government get any worse?
Excellent comments as usual James. How do these public figures get away with it for so long. Time I think for a General Election for, although I voted Conservative at the last election, this bunch of hypocrites are not worth the walk to the polling station. However, I can't vote for Keir Starmer and for the first time since I was eligible to vote, I am at a loss. Are any of the Parties worth my 'tick in the box' ? I leave myself looking towards Reform.
"Robust management" is simply a euphemism for bullying.
I believe Sunak wants to bully people but he doesn't want to take the blame
When I look at Britain these days, the song "Saigon" by Billy Joel springs to my mind and specifically the line "And we will all go down together". Britain is just on that path in any respect.
No, it's going to be the Titanic all over again, first class straight to the boat deck whilst 3rd class don't even know where to go
The photo of him with the whip on his desk. The spider he deliberately kept on the desk in his office when he was Chief Whip. The dismal performance as Education Secretary, the sackings from Government and they still gave him a Knighthood!!! Can I have one please? I imagine they come in quite handy.
Anyone remember in the thick of it, an MP said to a staffer
"Find a hostel, go there, and take an overdose of barbiturates"
It is time to stop treating politicians like they are celebrities to be gossiped about and joked about they are public servants and they are paid very well for that job. They should not be doing additional jobs and earning huge amounts more than the people they are meant to serve
I know I shouldn't presume, but won't he also pick up a very generous "disappointment bonus" on his departure to the back benches yet again?
When somebody says 'getting a smack wen I was a kid didn't do me any harm', they don't realise that it affected them so much that they think that hitting children is ok.
Gavin was also involved in the drama of saying he met Marcus Rashford when in fact it was Maro Itoje...
Great video James!👏👏
Ambulance for Gavin please.
Eight hours?
Can you make it eight days?
Kirk Out. 😎
Williamson comes across as a classic "Westminster hardman".
He'd be on the fast track for an ambulance if he tried his antics in any town centre.
I love James O’B ❤ The man gives me hope.
Imagine having such a skewed opinion of yourself that you bully people WHILST being staggeringly incompetent
The race to the bottom is seemingly speeding up, it's becoming difficult to see whether the winner will be the GOP in the US or the Conservative party.
My English teacher back in the mid 90s told a disruptive class mate to get out of the class and jump off the balcony. We were on the 3rd floor. It just so happened that the storage room was on the ground floor just below her class and this day they were cleaning it out. When he looked over he saw the high jump mats were out. So he called out to her and when she looked up he jumped. The woman turned white and nearly fainted. I think it was the last time she ever told a pupil to jump off the balcony.
Bullying is unacceptable be it in Government or at LBC!hope
Such behaviour that is part of a pattern, is deeply, deeply concerning and points towards someone who has the psychology of a perpetrator who has no concerns about inflicting fear and dread upon others in order to get his own way. In the realms of the courts and relationships, this man would be subject to a non molestation order and BANNED from contacting those who have been abused. The stories that have come out in the press suggests that he is of this ilk and has no place in Parliament. A man who resorts to a spider on his desk to subliminally threaten others isn't fit for ANY public office and he should be stripped of his knighthood forthwith and ejected from the party.
GE ASAP.
The tragedy is that Sunak put him there! And Cruella sits there nodding !!! Yes it's beyond comprehension. I'm going to listen again just to hear my thoughts spoken aloud much better than I could ever express!
Something that amazes me about Gavin Williamson's appointment isn't the bullying or that he tries so hard to be seen as a tough guy, it's that he's clearly absolutely incompetent. He was apparently referred to as "private Pike" by some ministers and has never been anything close to being able to do his job in government . I can't understand why anyone would employ someone who has been publicly proven time and time again that he just isn't up to the task.
It's strange that Sunak knew Williamson was under investigation but never found out why before he appointed him to the cabinet.
Would not that be the first thing you would inquire into before he appointed him?
And Sunak thanked him and was sorry to see him go....how strange.
Why are we surprised when a female MP yesterday claimed that there was a list of 40 people she needed to avoid and not be alone with
He is a Tory so being monsterous is a requirement not some anomaly.