'I went the wrong way on it' | LBC Radio's James O'Brien reflects on his changing views on XR
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- Broadcast on the 2nd September, 2021. LBC Radio's James O'Brien reflects on his changing views on Extinction Rebellion.
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It should be celebrated when someone realises and admits that they were wrong.
Hear Hear
Yeah but to shut the barn door after the horse has bolted is no great shakes. - He admits he was part of the landscape that made this problem seem comical and ridiculous thus shutting down the argument until it became an academic one. I put myself semi in this category. I believed, I just didn’t think it would happen in my time.
Climate Change is humanities greatest threat. Capitalism is predicated upon permanent growth on a finite natural resource. Capitalism is the problem, pro capital James O'Brien is part of the problem despite recognising our climate erosion. Capital will not be made to mitigate it's catastrophic destruction of our planets environment, O'Brien's empty platitudes are a dangerous distraction. Simple appeals to capital or government, changes little or nothing and leads to inevitable, disastrous time wasting. Direct action always gets the goods.
Geoengineering is the real threat wearing the mask of climate change
The great Ali said"someone who has lived 30 years and never changed there view on anything, is 30 years wasted".
I'm still waiting to hear how super glueing your self to a road makes any difference to anything.
Respect to this guy he shows humility which is very rare indeed
@Riviera Rick I’ve never listened to him before!
Geoengineering is the real threat wearing the mask of climate change. Nobody speaks about that because their uni lecturers don't get into that
@@ontheloose457 👈👈👈👈loon
We allways let ambulances through
and fire engines
I have been in the March which divided like the red sea for an ambulance. We got out of the way quicker than the cars did. Have also done the same for fire engines.
its the police that block emergency vehicles
This should be a highlighted comment.
Yes, we always let emergency vehicles through.. it is the police who don’t always let vehicles go.. we wouldn’t want a death on our conscience.. unlike our current government who neglected to protect people from COVID..
Point is, if government was actually responding to the climate crisis then no one would need to block bridges & no one would be disrupted. But government is not acting & the dangers we face are now so extreme that civil society has no choice but to disrupt daily life in order to make government respond.
Exactly 👍🍀
Totally, as us protesters say.. we do not want to cause inconvenience.. we do it because climate change will cause us more inconvenience.. James your honesty is refreshing..
@Hilary Walters have fun with the snake oil
The government forced br x it upon us without even a sketch of a plan, so there's not much hope they'll do anything meaningful with CC.
If this alienates voters, it's counter-productive: th-cam.com/video/ASYxGGeySXQ/w-d-xo.html
So appreciating the willingness to change and be open and vulnerable. We need this in our world. Thank you.
🤮🤮🤮
Thank you for your courage in changing your mind.
Geoengineering is the real threat wearing the mask of climate change.....
Wow, thanks James for your apology. Your resentment is most likely due to grief. The loss of normal and existential threat starts with shock, denial, anger, guilt, bargaining, to name a few reactions. Blessings to you.
I agree with you. We cover our grief with denial. Underneath I think many people are scared and sad and feel ashamed by what humanity is doing.
@@carolynwestlake7670 Elizabeth Kubler-Ross may have grown dissatisfied with her DABDA spectrum for grief and mourning but I find it useful. Denial/Anger/Bargaining/Depression/Acceptance. Welcome to planetary hospice.
A shame he won't apologise for the victims of the false Carl Beech conspiracy theory he pumped on his show numerous times.
@@nezbrun872 not to disagree with you but any apology is better than no apology
Good on you James, welcome
I appreciate his honesty, but people in the media are selected for reflexive obedience. The thought processes he described are the same ones involved in racism.
Jesus. 🙄
You can get every angle nowadays in 'the media' to keep you safe in whatever echo chamber you desire. So, no.
And his thought process is a guy trying to make sense of his position.
And homophobia, religious intolerance, carnivorism, class exploitation, imperialism etc.
Geoengineering is the real threat wearing the mask of climate change!!!
'I appreciate his'
Yet the next word he utters 'but'. How can anyone Mr Chomsky nor his army be taken seriously in any meaningful discussion? There is this thing which might helpful in this case 'take some remarks at face value'. Only when that is done a meaningful discussion can follow. There is a reason why most discussions end up in conflict. Chomsky and army are detrimental to any discussion.
@@Paul_C "There is a reason why most discussions end up in conflict." Here I am wondering what could possibly have given you that impression.
Love and rage James, love and rage.
Sounda like he's just growing up.
The "nine dead in NYC flash floods" caption reinforcing that the climate crisis is already here, and nowhere is safe.
Geoengineering is the real threat wearing the mask of climate change...
OnTheLoose, Climate change is a change in the usual weather found in a place. This could be a change in how much rain a place usually gets in a year. Or it could be a change in a place's usual temperature for a month or season. Climate change is also a change in Earth's climate.
small point but ambulances are let through in these protest circumstances
so if an ambulance is stuck further back in a line of cars and trucks that cant move, tell me how they let it through you idiot
Thank you James for your honest words.
Caller "...if it was a member of your family in that ambulance..."
This is a great example of the discontinuous thought process of your average human being. The correct thought he should be having is "how has the climate crisis become so bad that large groups of people are now blocking busy intersections in London that could delay ambulances? Why have our supposed leaders allowed the climate to get into such a state that people are protesting on the streets?"
By all means caller, write to your local MP, but ask them the right questions rather than demanding something should be done about protestors.
And kudos Mr O'Brien for having the humility to reassess your position.
You live in a democracy. People in that democracy have different concerns and views on the severity of the issues we face, why and what can reasonably be done to combat it. The current tactics being used do nothing but alienate this group from society in general and there spokespeople are so far over to one extreme there not taken seriously
@@ricardosmythe2548 thanks for repeating what you read in main stream media.
Anyone actually got a thought of their own that actually addresses what I said?
And learn the difference between "there" and "they're".
@@SlinkShady 🤣 I pay very little attention to what the media spew. It's quite simple, you as an individual do NOT get to push your demands on the rest of us based on your appraisal of the situation. I'd rather be lax at spelling than lax at thinking 👍
@@ricardosmythe2548 unfortunately for you, protest is a DEMOCRATIC freedom.
It is only in NON-democratic countries that we see outright suppression of dissent. Which is curious because you keep clamouring about democracy when you know nothing about it and actually support measures that are anti-thetical to it.
You spewed main stream media word for word. Not only do you listen to it, but you're not even aware of how it has warped your sense of reality, and how your supposed understanding does not actually exist.
You're lax at spelling AND thinking, and demonstrably so.
@@ricardosmythe2548 are you also a climate change denialist?
Just last evening I was discussing how to get the British public to actually take notice of the message that XR are trying to get across.
My idea is to get Katherine Tate to use her "Lauren" (Am I bovvered?) character!
A scene opens with Lauren being Lauren in a London underpass. A flash flood event happens. Not unheard of in these recent times. Lauren almost drowns and in her, what she believes are her last moments, she has a Road to Damascus revelation to become a Climate Champion with the knowledge and passion of George Monbiot!
Fast forward to Lauren at the COP 26 saying "I am bovvered!"
The public might react better to her than meusli munching sandal wearing etc.
Love the idea of Catherine Tate the XR protester? She wouldn’t be scared of Police telling her.. move or you will be arrested.. 🤣💚
@@emmahawkins1254 can you imagine Lauren and Greta Thunberg as a double act?
Geoengineering is the real threat wearing the mask of climate change. This XR is just an elite funded cull of sheeple who cannot investigate beyond a uni lecture.
Obstructing a public highway is illegal, when someone breaks the law and people are disrupted by it people tend to object. Oddly
How refreshing!
I think XR need to be focusing their efforts on the Labour party and the Labour conference. After all, they're the opposition that are prattling around and shedding support because nobody likes Keir. They are our only real hope. The cons aren't gonna do enough. Protecting the status quo is in their bones.
Very true. Labour are astonishingly absent.
True that is XRs duty. To protect the status quo. Never mention geoengineering and the constant destruction we are seeing from it.
@@constructioneerful Not everyone will agree but there are those that do, there is a man. A man with charisma, donkeys years of solid experience in Westminster. A man that has said what Labour stand for, and he has a vehement desire to see the Tories out. A man with humour and a better understanding of the English language than most us put together. A man that can wipe the floor with the Tory rabble. We need this man to bring Orrrderrrr!!! to British Politics and give it some real direction.
We do of course, need John Bercow to stand up and become a strong figure for the history books.
There are no other contenders.
So well put and admiration for being honest of being wrong! This will help other people do the same and look forward!
I was once called a crusty, like it was the worse thing in the world... By two girls brawling in the gutter on the far side of the road, as I walked through a sink estate. Literally one of them stopped punching the other to take a break to yell this at me.
I remember looking at them, and taking in the situation... Then I said "oh cheers!" Really cheerfully and went on my way. I mean, whatever those two thought was a bad kind of person to be... I was happy to be it.
James, you aleways speak so much sense! And so eloquently too.
Having a Son who lives and cycles around in London, anything that is going to benefit his life and others has to be a great thing!
Good for you James 👍
well done james we will have you sitting in the middle of the road one day!
Stunning and brave.
He just needs to listen to his daughters a bit more😉
Geoengineering is the real threat wearing the mask of climate change. Where is your voice on that issue?
That's an open and honest reflection!
Respect
James: well done, this is a extraordinary and brave thing to do, and I am sure you understand that it is just a small step on a long journey that could cost you your career, your friends, and potentially your mental health, if you are prepared to take that road. I wish you luck, I hope you are able to avoid ostracism, you will fail like those who have tried before you, but you will have inspired others to look unflinching into the face of hopelessness. Thank you
Takes courage to publicly admit you were unfair or wrong. Leave voters can't seem to do it. My biggest problem with most Brexit voters is not that they got it wrong, that's partly due to the lies they were fed.. but their ongoing failure to show courage and admit they have hurt innocent families and businesses in the UK really winds me up.
A first impression of someone in 10 seconds is difficult to change. But change it must.
What you're referring to is what psychotherapists term 'shadow' and you are half way to integrating it by observing it. You had perhaps contained/hidden your indecision and were reacting negatively to those that appeared not to share that indecision.
Or he "changed his mind" as we say on planet earth.
@@hmq9052 You're missing the point, willfully or otherwise.
He states 'I don't know why' and 'what is it makes us resent?
He is searching within himself for an explanation to why he had responded in a particular way. No doubt somewhere he was not comfortable or satisfied with this.
It's reductive to claim he simply changed his mind. In a remarkably similar way, you too could likely be projecting your some of your own shadow material by dismissing the notion of shadow as not serious.
@@liborsionko Has anyone ever said that you overcomplicate things?
In 1971, I created a democratic communal society with no personal cars. My coworker said he liked the idea of a democratic cooperative state, but he was not giving up his car. This is what the oil companies know. No one is giving up their cars. Therefore, climatic change is ignored.
I’m glad you are starting to get it, but I have to ask what took you so long? And your ignorance of who the people are within XR is striking. You call them crusties. You try camping out for months at a time in very basic conditions trying to stop HS2 cutting down forests in our country which is one of the most nature depleted in the world, or road expansion or whatever, or camping out on the streets for a fortnight then let’s see how fashionable you look or how bad you smell.
It is all sorts of people - engineers, civil servants, midwives, scientists, lecturers, farmers, architects, housewives, grandparents, ex policemen, young people, old people - you name it. Not so many black or Asian people because they get treated worse on average by police so it is harder for them to be involved.
The common factor is they understand the danger we are in and are prepared to kick up a fuss rather than just go down the pub and moan.
Will we win - who knows? But I would rather go down fighting than being led to the slaughter thinking it is all being taken care of and everything will be fine when clearly we are in deep trouble.
I have huge admiration for how you handle yourself on this show and the heartfelt integrity you often display. Great to see you turn up at last. Please get to know the people before you spout off about them again.
He contributed to a culture of misrepresentation and ridicule. He is part of the sickness. Selfishness and concern might move him slightly but he can just do one.
I haven't yet quite figured out who O'Brien is.
That said, he is about as close to what we can hope for in English MMS in raising awareness of social injustices at the present time, even though his rationales are flawed at times.
Someone should interview the LBC presenter and his producer about how they have failed to cover climate in their show.
Remember, you can cover the issue even if you are a sceptic. What happened here is that until at least this show he ducked it almost entirely, and certainly in contrast with other huge themes he picks up all the time.
It’s not just a change of heart - more questions to ask about what has been going on with him and his show.
Nailed it
Agree or disagree with James I tend to find he's very rational when in discussion with callers which makes me dislike things like religion , spirits, souls, even more as it can remove people's rational by accepting things without reasonable/ rational evidence
I love listening to James. I found him a few years ago and then I lost him. I couldn't remember who he was. He is one of my favorites. He honest and he tells it like it is. I love that.
“ some of my best friends were crustie’s” Of corse they were James, right before you sold them out to become EGO MAN! Saving the listeners from themselves, well done! A regular national hero if ever there was one.
We need a proper debate on this subject, because their are scientists who deny climate emergeny.
David Bellamy denied global warming and was canceled by the BBC.
There has to be room for an opposite view.
Cool
Refreshing
We need to put the same energy into healing the planet as we have about destroying it.
Healing the planet? This sounds like corporate speak. Ridiculous.
@@davidlynch9049 Expand your consciousness.
I think a lot of the hate XR gets is sort of Terror Management based "What do you mean the worlds ending? The world can't end, I have to get to work."
Have we tipped it?
What you’re describing sounds similar to cognitive dissonance.
@Jorn Paul Winkler And blocking traffic will stop it! Lol. Clueless.
I told you James OB was someone we need to keto onside... Same as shelagh!
Keep onside obviously
Or get on side - Surely? (And stop calling me... 😁)
@@stewedfishproductions9554 he's at least sympathetic towards climate change... He's a hypocrite but at least he's having the conversation
At 74 and a lifelong environmentalist, I can't comprehend the idea of talking about having kids, let alone grandkids. If anyone wants kids, there are plenty desperately needing adoption. I loved working with elementary kids for 25 years but would abolish the military worldwide and pay at least $25G to ANYONE getting their tubes tied. How can any thinking person look around and not see the horror of bringing a human into the world today?
Your views are sociopathic.
@IIWII Dont Panic. You have been duped by scaremongering. No scientific fact says your grandchildren will kill each other for food. Climate always changes. People always adapt. We dont sit while waves go over our heads. Th egeological record includes major catastrophes and vegetation changes within human record. We are still here and more resilient than ever. Chinese overfishing and palm oil plantations are bigger problems.
interesting
I'm right with you.
What they say? Loose lips sinks ships....it’s a small sorry for the damage done.😡
You know it's wrong when jimi likes it.
#BoycottMeat and all other animal products of cruelty and exploitation in any way possible!
If a protest doesn't cause anyone any problems, then it's not an effective protest.
I draw the line where a protest breaks the law or is not peaceful.
I am an environmentalist but I am far from convinced on XR, as things stand I could not support them.
@@lloydjones7925 That rather depends on which specific law is being broken doesn't it. Do you think ALL laws must always be respected? You seem to be working on the assumption that all laws are put in place for our benefit, which isn't the case at all. So when the law changes to "Protesting is against the law and anyone doing so will be arrested", you will be in favour of all protests being banned? Hmmm ok. In fact, our shithole government has already passed new laws this year that adds additional restrictions to protests. Apparently any peaceful protest can now be stopped if it's too noisy or causes any disruption to the public. So basically, only protests that can be easily ignored will be allowed.
Up until 1975, it used to be illegal to be a gay man. Then the law was changed, and it wasn't. If the law reverted back to criminalising people for being gay, would you respect that law or would you oppose it? Just curious.
the only presenter on LBC radio worth listening2 is maajid nawaz in my opinion.unlike j.o'boring,maajid has walked the walk,o'boring just talks the talk, as roger halam says, folks 🌞
Everyone values life. It is easy for the medical service to arrange and coordinate passage for emergency medical vehicles. Simple.
But the Doctors and other medical and home care workers are stuck in traffic. Get a clue you selfish idiot.
I don’t think XR represents the most informed and pragmatic environmentalists but it most certainly represents extremes, frustration, anger and fear.
Welcome aboard! He sees sense , usually....
I am eating muesli while listening to this.
"it's not fair on Wombles" love it
People need to learn some Stoicism to deal with what's being thrown around at the moment.
Wrong as on so much else, however, better late than never, just a shame about the damage done. You "bridled" because you were paid, James. that won't change.
Geoengineering is the real threat wearing the mask of climate change. Do some research beyond the elite funded propaganda.
@@ontheloose457 see Prof Kevin Anderson for more accurate information.
@@celestialteapot309 glad to see he disagrees with Bill "depopulation" Gates' psychopathic geoengineering
Did you go to Ampleforth College
I was wrong. I was wrong. I was wrong. I was wrong. I thought...we were better...off.
He is often wrong, but now realizing it. Progress, James!
He's expressing opinion, opinions are never wrong or right. When his opinion is different to yours, he isn't "wrong"!
What exactly is wrong with oblivion?
In your case it might be necessary!! Lol
Oblivion is the natural state of things. We are a temporary anomaly. Normality will soon be restored.
Guilt and fear. Two emotions used by religions institutions for thousands of years to increase their own power.
Maybe he’s decided that he’ll get more traffic to his channel with this new stance. Considering every other media outlet is either full-on scathing of XR and/or _still_ pretending to be sceptical of the science and “both sidesing” the issue.
only his adoring fans listen 2his boring middle-class ramble & rants please by my books he often says 2them.he still hasn't got over the fact he could not persuade people to vote pro-brexit.he is the embodiment of alan partridge.
It’s possible. Hard to tell if he is playing to a gallery at this stage or is changing stance irrespective of the gallery.
You will be able to tell based on how insightfully and frequently he covers the climate crisis.
@@constructioneerful It usually makes sense for contrarians to take a stance that will generate more dispute. Whether he’s doing it for the ad revenue or not (he is though), it will allow people to have those discussions and arguments and maybe those who are denying the problem will be on the defence instead of it always being the ones who accept the science.
I would like to hear James tease Energy executives in $1000 dollar suits, and developers who are sitting on their sun decks drinking chardonnay. Brits do have a way with depreciatory humor.
Now just change your opinion on everything else you beleive and you might be an alright presenter
Ambulances get through.
But health care workers on their way to work don't, you imbecile.
Ah, "the ends justify the means". The argument used by all the great authoritarians.
He’s wrong on so many things that this isn’t a big deal. It’s just that he’s admitted he’s wrong...that’s the difference folks.
Which other things?
James O'Brien skirts with the limits of intellectual reason to explore why he thinks what he thinks and realises 'i don't know!'
We need more climate discussions James. It's a disaster that will affect us all...
He is a centrist, he is wrong on most things.
so james will happily sacrifice one of his kids if they where in an ambulance with a life threatening situation going on to save those in the future lol, and to those who say we let ambulances through, what if the ambulance is further back in the line and the rest of the cars etc cant move because of arseholes who have glued themselves to the road
“Crusty”? Hmm think we said “crunchy”, like granola eating, loving crunchy people.
Carl beech
Swampy 😂😂😂😂
Very dislikeable chap, why does TH-cam recommend him lol?
they leave litter and chaos in an organisation that is supposed to stand for the opposite etc. Annoying organisation bring back Greta Thurnburg. Angry children fine but this is just silly.
Actually XR always do litter picking around their actions… so that comment is not true.. they may miss some litter but not all litter around is theirs.. London is covered in litter..
Wow, definitely think a Lauren Greta showdown would totally be fantastic! I find Greta on Spitting Imagine funny…. Greta weather forecast.. the weather will be hot! We can’t take ourselves too seriously because others always judge us and are mean.. 😄
@@emmahawkins1254 Westminster council had to pay £50,000 towards a clear up. Council said 120 tons of rubbish was left behind. No excuse for that.
Christ was a Crusty.
James, some people who say we no longer live in a democracy really believe that we have lost many rights and freedoms under the law. Liberalism and related beliefs will think very poorly of the emergency powers rushed through by the government and people being controlled in various ways or told what to do.
The problem is very much bigger than the mask or whatever the problem or method of control may be. Some see these freedoms as lost, until the government returns those rights them to us officially.
Some believe that freedom of speech has a place within this to and as such feel that cancel culture removes some people right to an opinion. Whereas those who push against cancel culture will frequently support everyone's right to an opinion, especially those who have a different view to their own. However free speech does not entitle one side to cancel the views or livelihoods of another, as can be the case with cancel culture recently.
Who is this guy ?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Brien_(broadcaster)
LBC chat show host. Bit of a reactionary but at least left wing. LBC normally renowned for promoting the far right so O'Brien is a welcome relief sometimes
Apparently he's quite entertaining n influential on both sides of the political spectrum, ive seen alot of clips of him re brexit and covid on the channels i follow. He makes people think n has no patience for idiot callers, but imo can be too harsh with them to prove a point, esp when he's in the wrong IMO, as he was previous years with XR
He's a nasty peace of work ask Frank Lampard
He's like a left-leaning shock jock. Has the same pugnacious, entitled air of the right wingers he went to school with but uses it to embarrass said right wingers. Was great watching him tear Nigel Farage apart on air, and he's done some good interviews with thinkers like Akala. Bit of a double-edged sword though as a lot of what he does involves embarrassing hapless, ignorant callers, making them look stupid and racist. I get slight Jeremy Kyle vibes (if Kyle suddenly went left-wing).
Now it sounds like he's having a go at single dads. Well played James, you can't help yourself can you?
6 minutes 26 seconds of hot air, adding to global warming 🔥
You’re shedding the neo liberal judgmental skin. Better late than never to become a objective journalist.
The climate is always changing.. We've got 4 seasons 😂.
But seriously - I cannot take the climate movement seriously.. What exactly are you trying to prevent? I can 100% get down with environmental protection and stopping the pollution of our waters and lands. But what exactly are the climate change extremists trying to prevent?
Rising sea levels?
Global temperatures?
Co2 level increases?
I just can't understand it..
The earth has been hotter before.
Sea levels have been far higher before.
Co2 levels have been far higher before.
And that was all without human involvement / intervention.
I'll take warmer temperatures and delaying the next ice age for as long as possible over freezing to death / starving to death any day..
Stop rubbish, sewerage and chemical pollution. That's something I can get on board with, as that has
Actual measurable consequences. EG. Bees aren't dying from climate change, they're dying from pesticide use and chemical residues.
I cannot abide this odious so called human being.