The Last of Us 2 - Joel and Ellie ENDING Flashback + Ellie Returns to the Farm and Plays a Guitar
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- The Last of Us Part 2, Joel and Ellie Last/Final Flashback, fingerless Ellie returns to the Farm and finds out Dina has already left with her baby. Ellie sits starts playing the guitar and remembers how she and Joel once talked about Ellie and Dina's relationship and how she promised to forgive Joel for what he'd done. The Last of Us 2 ENDING.
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![[s1] joel having beef with ellie for 9 minutes](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/z-NF5RVdDJY/mqdefault.jpg)
Ellie was going to invite Joel over to watch a movie the next night - imagine how happy he would've been :(
Maaaan shit breaks my heart
ik. i heard the spoilers and when she said she was having him over instead of partying with Dina i was like "Please let that happen!!!"
you could actually feel the pain in Ellie's voice when Jesse said Joel and Tommy didnt show up at their rendezvous spot. As if all that quality weed on her system evaporated right away.
@@willbyers7233 it be like that.
That morning dude. She asked Jesse if Joel was up. Was going to be the first thing she did that day.. is ask Joel about movie night.. :(
Joel’s so stoic, but when Ellie says she wants to reconcile, you realize just how deeply he’s been carrying the pain of their estrangement.
You could see the subtle details of his pain when exploring his house, he even went as far to take down his bathroom mirror because he couldn't live to see the person he's become. Beside his bed, you could tell that Joel really wanted to talk to Ellie once again by reading a book/magazine about Space. These small yet meaningful details really bring out the emotion about how Joel is as a character in this game.
@@arukadou6308 wow I didn't notice that
@@arukadou6308 'space science for a dumb' like this book right?
Kurt Lebron Atillo Alovera Fr man it makes me so sad. He was just a man longing for the kind of relationship he had with his daughter
Ikr? I noticed that the entire scene up to even when he looked her dead in the eye, saying he’d do it all over again. The moment she says she’d like to try and reconcile with him, you can hear in his voice that if the scene had carried on longer, I firmly believe he would have broken down and started crying on that porch. Such amazing acting from the both of them.
When he said "I'd like that", it was the first and only time I've cried from a video game.
Me too man
Same here, at this exact moment. Knowing the entire story between the two, plus the important detail that Joel took Ellie abandoning him like a man, not forcing himself on her (meaning he truly cared about her), the emotion in those words just got me.
What sad is the day that Joel died.. he probably was soo happy to finally get his daughter back... then he saved some muscular dude 🤣
Play rdr2 lol
Twd lee
That night Joel read "Space for idiots" he was looking forward to talk with her, try to connect again. Then, in the morinig he was thinking about Last night, how he was gonna try to talk with her. He wasnt thinking about a horde, or if that stranger girl was suspicious, he was just thinking: "I Want this to end, get back to Jackson and be with her..." He was not thinking about his safety, and when he realize it was a set up it was too late. Rest in Peace, You dinosaur. We gonna miss you.
Gabriel S. This just killed me 🙃
That just doesn’t align with his character. 20 plus years of brutal survival doesn’t turn him into softey like that, not worried about anything but a conversation later. It’s just not Joel.
Bigo Jr. his brutality and will for survival came from sarah’s death in the beginning of the first game. he wore the watch she gave him everyday for 20 years, even though it ended up breaking, so that shows he still held some sort of grief up until meeting ellie and building their bond. so to say “he can’t go soft” is bullshit because after rescuing her from the hospital, you can clearly see that he changed majorly in character to hide the truth from ellie.
frootdelrey you used a really bad example, after rescuing Ellie from the hospital it shows just how evil Joel is. He brutally killed the first guard as well as all the others. He killed the doctors and shot the black lady at the end which he really didn’t have to, instead of letting her go. The only change in his character at that moment was that he had someone to protect AT ALL COSTS, which he definitely demonstrated at the hospital. Your example was bullshit. Forgot to mention dooming all humanity for one girl so yeah bad example
@@bongzeemo Yeah it does, what do you know about the character ? He lived 4 years in Jackson trying to fit in as a normal citizen, he was helping out and meeting new factions for trades, he connected with humans once again, regained humanity once he had the daughter, Joel changed, people change, accept it.
Joel’s shaky “yup” reminds me of his emotional “thin ice” line from the first game to Ellie. Troy Baker does an amazing job bringing this character to life.
A shame that life was cut so short. I love Joel to bits, and I find it hard to deal with the fact that we'll likely never see another game with him. And the one we got, his role was much, much too short, if you ask me...
@@Veloziraptor111 well. It was too short because I think you wanted subjectively wanted to see him more.
But I think his char is still super important in this story. He died in first two hours, and still he is the third most important char in the game. So perfect in my opinion.
Man I felt bad for Joel, he was gon cry literally as Ellie still blames him for getting her outta that hospital.
@@Veloziraptor111 his role was short? damn his role moved the whole plot and MORE
PL8YR imagine what’ll make someone like Joel crying.
When joel says “I’d do it all over again”
Bruh i broke down. Hit me with them feels a bit too much. Just represents the unconditional love of a parent.
ya same here i cried like lil bitch when joel said that! them damn feels.
Same. I love when Ellie plays take on me too
Yeah, at the start of the game, Tommy told him that he'd take it to the grave if he had to. That's what Joel did.
You're not alone. You could see that Ellie was touched by Joel's honesty. I believe right then and there is when Ellie decide she was willing to try to forgive him. Because let's face it, she must've missed him terribly.
@SpokenTurtleBack he really didn't doom humanity. Check out Game Theory's video as to why.
Things Joel loves: Ellie, Sarah, Tommy, gee-tars, wood sculpting and last but not least coffee.
You're forgetting Coffee☕☕
Yeah. He would rather trade a gold bar for a coffee.
My man has fancy tastes especially coffe
And horses . So many horses paintings in his house . Joel will live on FOREVER as one the greatest characters ever
and 80's action movies lol
This is why she was mad at Abby. It wasn't about revenge. She was robbed of the fact that she didn't get time to finish forgiving Joel for what he did (they had a movie night scheduled for the first time in seemingly casual dialogue) and that's what really drives her vengeance. Love this game.
You are 100% right but I do think Ellie was a bit pissed at Abby for killing Joel :P
@@Kicktugo55 _a bit_
yes thank you so much for this
Exactly.
This is why she spares Abby. She accepts that her last conversation with him was a good one.
@@hazmat4260 And not only that, Ellie knows that all the pain she felt over Joel’s death would just be passed over to Lev if she killed Abby. Ellie knew that she would become Abby in Lev’s eyes, and so she did the hardest thing, the thing she wasn’t able to do with Joel: to forgive and forget. That’s why she spared Abby’s life.
when ellie says she'd like to try forgiving him my heart just breaks wow
It's because she can't stand to lose him. She's stubborn as he is, but loves him so much.
@@TheFreshSoundsFlorida she left the guitar symbolising that she is letting him go, the total opposite of what Joel did, she is so Brave I love her
@@RomeoDeJuliette I don't think her putting down the guitar means she's totally removing him from her life. I think it means she's choosing to let go of her unforgiveness towards him. Ellie was extremely hurt by his actions, but ultimately wanted to patch things up with him until her chance to do so was taken away. I think that's what was driving her aside from vengeance.
@@RomeoDeJuliette she left the guitar because she lost her fucking pinkie to play it anymore,dont symbolise any shit.
@@porcupine3897 dude, the entire last shot involves that guitar (a gift from Joel) remember the watch that Joel had all the time? He never took it off because he didn't let go of Sarah, that shit is in there for a reason LMFAO and you can still play the guitar with the other hand but that is not the point lol
I cried HARD during this scene. When Ellie said she wanted to try to forgive Joel, that got to me. And when we got that look on Joel’s face like he’s about to cry and weakly says “I’d like that” I fucking CRIED my damn eyes out. This game made me cry at least 4 times.
Doi Doi I cried 2 times but I teared up 4 times in total, I’ve been a huge fan of naughty dog and I’ve been a fan of TLOU since I was 8
I don't know how all the streamers around managed not to tear up in this scene at all.
They either have no sensibility at all or they were just striving to think about childish memes about the game because they had to hate it to keep subscribers.
yeah same. This game made me feel all different types of emotions playing as Ellie. It pains me that half of the game was wasted playing as Abby
I cried for a solid half hour while sitting in the credits listening to all the music then balled even harder when Ellie and Joel sing together at the end of the credits. Hits you in the feels
Notyourmorty wait what!!! They sing in the credits I skipped it
“Everyone I have cared for has either died or left me!” Thinking of that line now hurts so much:(
Or when she was talking to Sam before he turned that her fear was to be alone 😢
“Everyone... FUCKING EXCEPT for you!”
@@sharinngan5084 not anymore...😥
IMO Ellie has gotten over that fear. At Jackson she’s surrounded by loving families and accepting people, but she still chooses to be reclusive and only talk to a few people (probably because her suspicions about Joel made her more distrusting). Haley Gross also mentioned that in an interview. Obviously it’s all up for interpretation though, I personally think this is actually a happy ending.
@@ashastra123 No much happy about it, but it's an ending for sure... lol
It’s even more touching when you realize that later on Ellie tells Dina that she would like to go out like Eugene dying from old age and living a long life. THIS is so important because it goes to show Ellie finally realized that Joel’s actions were done out of love, a pure and selfless act that gave her more meaning in life than being humanity’s cure. Ellie finally believes she’s worthy of life and love so she has decided to honor Joel’s efforts by outliving her immunity and embracing life. I fuckinh love this game
That's actually a nice catch.
Joel acted out of love, yes. But the situation was more morally complex. He knew that what he did was against Ellie's wish and that he ultimately acted egoistically. He could not lose another daughter. Ellie struggles with her purpose throughout the games, I would not say that she found the answer as clearly as you suggest.
That’s true. Even if they did the procedure successfully, what’s to say that finding a cure would 100% go right? There is the chance that her sacrifice would end up all for nothing
@@benbarnett5743 or that humanity would fully embrace it. In the decades since the outbreak there’s been cannibalism, mass looting from survivors luring in innocent people, and whatever the hell kind of war was happening in Seattle. On top of that the Fireflies had a very infamous reputation. Even if the cure worked, life as we know it wouldn’t have gone back to normal. Plus, who’s to say the Fireflies wouldn’t have been selective about who to give the cure to?
Anyway that’s a great catch OP. That didn’t even occur to me at all.
@@benbarnett5743 I think Ellie would have wanted to give her life even for that chance. Maybe she wouldn’t have, but it seems like she would have gone for that. And no one, Joel or Marlene, gave her that choice.
I think the porch scene is so important. It's the image that last flashes in Ellie's memory as she's drowning Abby. Ellie's vengeance was so fueled by that image of seeing Joel die, but remembering this scene is what reminded her about forgiveness.
There's an emotional inner conflict of Ellie grappling with Joel's decision that's paralleled with her conflict of desiring vengeance. Ellie's anger at Joel for his decision mirrors and carries over into her anger for vengeance. The flashbacks are presented in a way that you and Ellie frame her last words with Joel were that of the fight, and she never really got to repair that relationship or say how she really felt, and that unresolved emptiness acts as a powerful motivator for vengeance.
But I think when she remembers this memory, she's remembers that she was able to set her relationship with Joel on the right track despite not having enough time to completely forgive Joel. Though it's still a sad circumstance nonetheless, but I think the distinction between the two mindsets is that she did get some sort of resolution with Joel. She was able to make up for their fight at the party, and at least set that she would try to forgive Joel rather than have a deep seated anger at him. I think her remembering that she was forgiving Joel is what makes her let Abby go.
Thank you for this, this is why I absolutely love this game. Finally a comment that I can respect.
Finally someone who gets it!
Massimiliano Formiglia idk if it’s just me but after finishing the game I’ve been depressed lately, well I’m just not in the mood for anything
I wish people would understand. Naughty dogs thank you letter, at least in the version I bought foreshadows what your getting ready to play through.
Thank you for expressing it perfectly.
When Joel cries, we cry.
For, the first time I saw Joel crying
@@kathrine7498 then you didnt play the first game
ellie is the typical spoilt american kid, who cant appreciate a father figure like joel who cares about her, the way she treats him is disgusting when she should be grateful, some fucked up morals in this game. regardless of what ellie wanted it makes no sense behaving like that because he loved her like his own daughter
@@ChrisE-iy7ok Imagine being this clueless about how human beings work LMAO
@@kathrine7498 ? You definetly havent even touched the first game lmao
The fact Ellie truly ended up alone is so damn sad it makes me actually wanna cry
That definitely sucks but she’s in a position now to actually start a life for herself without the baggage Joel carried for himself. She’s alone right now but prepared to move on from her pain.
@@Veganstega true 😭
Yep. Joel witnessed the pain of losing his daughter Sarah and now Ellie has to endure the pain of losing the closest to a surrogate father and her friends.
She's not alone though, as you can see she had her bracelet again, that means she and Dina reconcile, the reason why Ellie decides to go back to the farm house alone is to let go her revenge for Joel, and while playing the guitar...she remembered that they had a good last conversation with Joel... so its like a sign already for her that she is ready to move on thus leaving the guitar, and going back to Jackson with Dina and the rest(Tommy etc..)
Hope to ease your sadness :)
@@solomonjohn7865 I like this comment, so relieved
That "Yup" that Troy gives at the end where his voice breaks. Masterful.
i dont think you guys are realizing the full meaning of this scene, this scene was in the last night before his death and Joel spend all those years loving with all his heart a person that he thought hated him, but this scene gives a little confort because Joel in his last breath finally knew that Ellie loves him, it is good to know that at least he died happy
That’s actually genius I never thought of that,poor Joel ,he lost his life for saving Ellie but like he said he would’ve done it all again in a heartbeat and that shows what an amazing person he is,I don’t hate Abby for killing him because she had her reasons but Joel’s death just crushes me,it’s done perfectly just like the entire game was imo
Joel didn’t die happy, he died fearing for what would happen to Ellie after he died.
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He didn't die happy, he died in pain after hours of torture and hearing the screams of his daughter.
Ellie was a little girl. She do hate him for what he did in that hospital.
She thought that her life would mattered. She understand that her life matters without saving mankind. Joel and Ellie relationship matters.
And Ellie lets Joel go.
This scene made we want to hug Joel and never let go.
Thats what ellie does the next day when she goes to Joel's house and holds his Jacket. She hold the arms and you can feel the rest.
If I was her I would just hug him, say I love him and just don't tell him to go on patrol the next day, therefore Abby wouldn't be able to kill him. Loved this game man, but it's so depressing.
This is deeper than most of the people can understand.
In my eyes, Ellie tought she had to die, saving the human race.
Joel saw her for what she was, and gave her a chance to live like a normal girl and not like a bless from heaven that had to be sacrificed. He did it in part for himself, but mostly for her, and i understood that in that final scene where Joel says he would do it all over again. In the end everybody look at Joel as a monster, when in reality he always act for the ones who he care, as its shown when he take a shotgun blast on his leg, knowing he is going to die, but the only things he says is "tommy" because heis worried for is Brother.
And eventually Ellie understand what he did for her, and feel guilty for hate him in the last time she had to share with him.
I think in the end she is broken not for the orrible things she did to take revenge for his death. She is broken beacuse she lost him. She died with him on that floor. Lost one, lost both, as the song says
"If i ever were to lose you i surely lose myself"
Very interesting comment " she died with him on that floor " . I really like that sentence 👌 . I do think that by the end she finds her way back . There is hope. Ellie is now on a path of redemption
She carries the loving memory of Joel and will try to honor him . And to live . Because life is worth living for. That's what Ellie's mother said . That's why Joel is her true father .
He just didn't want to lose his daughter again...
Top tier comment🙌🏼
Ellie's vengeance wasn't just about killing the people who took Joel from her, but about taking revenge on them for taking away her chance at forgiving him. Even at their worst she still loved him deeply. It's impossible to know if she could have ever truly forgiven him, but the fact that she couldn't even try is so heartbreaking. In her final confrontation with Abby, she remembers her last conversation with Joel and in that moment she realises the only way to break the cycle of pain and hurt she has to forgive Abby. Both women were in the right, as much as that pains us to hear. Joel had done horrible things and was the villain in Abby's history just as much as she was the villain in Ellie's. After killing Joel, Abby finds out that revenge doesn't make the pain go away and that after everything she has sacrificed for the chance to kill the man who killed her father it still leaves her empty and unfulfilled. Then, through her experience with Lev and the SCARs, she learns to empathise with her enemy and by the time she comes to confront Ellie for the murder of her friends, she realises that she has to let it go if she wants the pain and suffering to end. She gives Ellie a chance to move on and keep what's left of her life. A chance she herself has wasted.
But Ellie wastes that chance as well. The pain is too deep. So she goes off to finish what she started, losing everything and everyone in the process, even her ability to play the guitar one of the last things Joel had left her. And then right as she's about to kill Abby she hesitates and realises that in doing so she will give up the last thing she can keep the memory of Joel alive with. In that moment, Abby becomes a surrogate for Joel in her eyes. Ellie decides to forgive a person who just like Joel did something terrible not out of hate for someone, but out of love for the person that someone killed. In letting Abby live, she gives herself a second chance to forgive and to love again. She holds on to her own humanity just like Joel did.
This story wasn't trying to say that Ellie was wrong for wanting or even for taking revenge. It was about exploring what is lost in the process and how the only true way to keep our own humanity alive, is to forgive and to empathise with the people around us. Sometimes both sides are right. Sometimes both sides are wrong. But we have to move past the anger and the hatred if we want to make this world a better place. Hate breeds hate but not even a virus is as infectious as an act of love.
So in the immortal words of Bill and Ted: Be excellent to each other.
Truly beautiful my man. God i fucking love this game so much
Comment worthy of a Grammy award 👏👏👏
that was so touching and beautifully sad. I teared up reading it. Thank You .
Very well said!
This is what the bandwagon haters fail to see. That in real life, things or situations like this might happen. It's not a perfect game but it did capture the reality of how humanity and our emotions work, on how tragic things come unexpectedly.
Goddamn, what a comment. Thank you 🥹
Watching Ellie try to play guitar is honestly heartbreaking
Made me laugh tbh
I know there are many sad moments in this game, but that hits me on another level. like her only connection left to Joel was being able to play guitar. I haven't even recovered from it yet
@Li Jesse i will laugh again.
@@manikin1189 sammmmeeee I waz dying so much laughing seeing her trying to play the guitar and she couldn't! 🤣🤣😂😂
Mad Dog congratulations everybody hate s you
"If somehow the Lord gave me a second chance at that moment, I would do it all over again." -Joel 😔
@Brofisting gaming i don't understand why it's so difficult for some people to understand that you can love joel, as a person, as a father and still realize that he was kind of a shitty person who had done horrible, selfish things and honestly got what was coming to him.
sgtmian holy shit man. So you think you would have done different if ur daughters getting murdered for unknown reason? The fireflies? Saving the humanity? You haven’t watch enough post-apocalypse movies yet didn’t you? Still believe in moral actions coming out of humans under post-apocalypse environment? Jesus Christ chill the fuck out about thinking the fireflies would have even successfully develop the vaccine, after tons of failed attempts btw
Best line of the entire game.
@Brofisting gaming Yes you can, people just get used to the fact that all games or movies must have beautiful endings, but that's not reality, reality is totally different. Even if you don't deserve to die like some way because of your actions, of your experience, because of your story, you probably will. Life is not that sweet and that's why people hate so much this kind of stories, where realism and beauty of how is like to live and survive will follow you everywhere. A better example is what happened to Game Of thrones... Not because Jon Snow appeared to be the chosen one, means that he would become the ruler of all kingdoms, no, he had a second chance to live but that's it, he finally got what he deserved, of what he is good on.
@@alanwashstuff216 Are you actually trying to defend this game's story? Lmao
When he said yup, I immediately started crying. You could tell he was so happy and relieved when she said that.
Naught Dog had some huge balls making such an unapoligetically depressing story. What a masterpiece of a game.
I couldn't agree more. Druckman made his fans suffer in order to say something meaningful. He could have just made another game where Joel and Ellie rode around on a fun little journey, but he respects the art form too much to resort to fan service and cares too much about the characters to let them dry out.
@@gabet.1880 I think the reason a lot of people hate it is simply cause of the dark turn it took from TLOU 1.
@@lennygosheesh this game makes the first one look like Naruto.
@@gabet.1880 ha ! « Fun little journey » , like it could be that easy in that post-apocalyptic world .
@@TimmyStreamskinda lol. Part 2 is way more dour and violent.
Kinda sad that, because she didn’t let go of revenge in time, she lost the last thing she had to remember Joel: Be able to play the guitar.
Yeah the end hit me hard the saddest thing was to see Joel slightly crying
Shut up I can't even
Vi Wg she’s lost more then that and her parents were never part of the story line dude, they didn’t even matter to her really she never talked about them. Jesse died and he mattered to her, Sam and his brother mattered to her
@@defaultMK18 Almost? She did.
@@noahguerrero1966 you do realize that ellie mentioned her mother in last of us part 1 and that she was friends with marlene which explains how she was with marlene.
The song Joel was playing on guitar before Ellie arrives is Helplessly hoping - Crosby’s, stills and Nash. Joel’s version is much slower than the original.
Muito obrigado, estava à procura do nome dela (:
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Hearing Joel's voice break is one of the most heart breaking things in this game. All it took was Ellie telling him that she wants to try to rekindle their relationship to make him cry. When Joel cries, I cry.
"This game disrespects Joel"
This game freaking honours him, it shows how much he loved and cared for ellie, he even dies like a badass refusing to beg.
And yet they kill him in the first act after we waited many years for sequel they threw him like trash instead of giving him for screen time
This is more of CYA for naughty dog
@@luislovera2351 Who cares how much we waited? Their job is to write a deep story, develop a pretty looking and fun to play game, not to service the fans. He was killed to trigger a great story about forgiveness.
@@luislovera2351 he has around 1:30 hours I think that’s pretty good…plus idk if you’re new to the Lou universe but when they kill characters they do it in a real way, not in a heroic one, Joel is not an exception
@@luislovera2351 this is the comment a person makes when they're immune to subtext.
@@luislovera2351 just get over it, time to grow up
7:01 That look of hope on Joel's face is just so heartbreaking. Especially because you know he got some hope that he could get Ellie back someday, even if he never could, he would've spended his life trying. Knowing next day he got murdered and he never got the chance to try to get Ellie... Damn it hurts
same with when he sang future days to her and yes they had future days for 4 years before that but then that was it dam.
That's what drove Ellie even more determined to get her revenge, she was just about to forgive and reconciliate with Joel only to have that opportunity taken the day after.
@@azriffazli4670 totally thats the key of the game
Ellie was trying. She told Dina that same day about how she planned on inviting Joel to watch a movie. :(
They were gonna have a movie night aswell the day joel died
"I'd like that"
I cant do this anymore.
The Last of Us "You're not my daughter and I sure as hell ain't your dad. We are going our separate ways."
The Last of Us 2 "if somehow the Lord gave me a second chance at that moment, I would do it all over again."
Love how Sony turns angry ass men such as Joel and Kratos to show they still have humanity in later games.
They show the side of these strong fictional men that are genuine and loving, the power of fathers. It's an amazing thing to see in video games, I just wish Joel hadn't been killed so early. It's like killing master chief 5 hours into Halo.
@@ex2738 I get what you're saying......but he was old. He wasn't ment to last anyways.
sony didn't do it. brilliant game directors and writers did
yeah.. Sony wrote the TLOU games. yup. can't wait for more Sony games like TLOU and GOW.
@@rudy_4ier "Sony always wins" -Chad Warden 2007
if you guys read the lyrics to the song Joel is playing (Helplessly hoping by Crosby Stills & Nash) its about two lovers who care about each other but were never sure if it was destiny to be together. They are lonely, they bring each other freedom, and finally, they are "for each other." The representation of this between Joel and Ellie fits this story perfectly and it astounds me with how well the creators decided to go with this song as the finale. Their love for one another is unknown yet they grew apart only to realize they grew together in perfect harmony. It takes someone special to do that to you.
It's that scene that says what the games really about, imo. Not 'vengeance bad' but forgiveness. What Abby took away from Ellie was her chance to forgive Joel. Killing Abby wouldn't change that.
I just wish more people would realize that Ellie fucking won. She got her revenge. She took everything from Abby except Lev. She destroyed her life. When she was drowning her and she had that flashback, she realized killing Abby wasn’t brining Joel back. “Just take him and go” she didn’t want lev going without Abby the way she was going without Joel. She still had a shred of humanity left and she was finally able to let go.
I love reading comments from people who understood the game as it should be :)
@@mccon2ej Yeah. Ellie in the end is the stronger and arguably better person than Joel was. Her losing her fingers and not being able to play the guitar (and ultimately leaving it behind) is just the crushing symbolization of her leaving the memory of Joel. I think that little flashback of Joel playing the guitar (when she was choking Abby) was that in the end, Ellie wants to remember Joel as the person he becomes after meeting her -- which we don't get to see that much in this game, unfortunately. She refuses to become a person that is identified by her past (unlike Joel was with Sarah).
It's this love and Joel having found the person that fills the void that drives him to selfishly make the decision to take Ellie away. It's beautiful really, but very selfish.
It's a very tragic story. It's so very painful. But hey, "I know you wish things were different -- I wish things were different. But they ain't." -Joel.
But hey, "All you need is three fingers, man." -Manny, the pendejo.
@@Ipam6 yeah she could still try to play the guitar without those 2 fingers idk... but seriously i know joel's choice to save ellie was kinda selfish, but i still think it was the right call, throughout the game we see that most humans are awful and i think a cordyceps cure wouldn't fix that, in fact i think the fireflies might have used a cure to overthrow the military and if you ask me they weren't any better
Itek 1 well it wasn’t revenge but she did destroy everything Abby loved and cared for because Abby was selfish and dragged them along to kill Joel and got her friends killed infront of her because she did that, killing her would’ve been stupid
The look at 6:15 after Joel says he would do the same thing even if given a second chance is so powerful. That stare is intense. He will never change his mind or regret his choice. NEVER. Nothing Ellie can say or even her hating him for the rest of her life would make him regret taking her from that hospital. He loves her too much to have let her die. They knocked the facial animation for that part out of the park, and Troy Baker did an amazing job acting.
Troy* but i agree with everything else
even if he had a TARDIS he would do it all over again.
Damn right! It's the same intense stare he gives Tommy at the start of the game when he says 'I saved her'. And in that moment, you know that he believes he made the right choice and has no regrets whatsoever.
Hey, i know it has been an year since that video came out but do you know the name of that song joel was playing?
@@diogofreitas4407 I know it's been 4 months and you probably already found out but, just in case, the song is called helpless hoping
Moral of the story : fix your relationship with your parent, you never know when you see them again.. Especially in this covid time
mantep komennya
Good point
"I'd rather have you pissed off at me and alive than liking me and dead."
Just before she was about to start to forgive him he died... that's the saddest part for me about the story
I'm just glad her last words to him wasn't what she said at the drunken barn dance.
it's cheap druckmann's fanfiction drama
Peter Vaňušanik bro wtf are you doing here, let people in joy this amazing game and stfu with trying to ruin it for everybody that loves it.
@@butter2254 cant blame him. Joel got thrown under the bus for a unlikable character that was forced to much on us.
Street Fighter she wasn’t forced on us. You don’t have to like Abby as a character, you just should understand where she’s coming from. The whole point of playing as her is to male you feel bad and understand why she does the things that she does, but you don’t have to like her.
It hits even harder when you realize this was the last thing she ever said to Joel
The last thing she actually said to Joel was to "please get up"...
I think he meant the last time they had a convo
@Versatile Wolf NWO "Hits even harder" is a way of saying it's even more emotional
@@oniuqadrannek Joel was probably in and out of consciences he might not have even heard that
@@spiderrocket8367 its not about what Joel heard, but what Ellie said (:
5:13 After Joel says Dina would be lucky to have her, you can see the conflict on Ellie’s face. It was such a sweet compliment and she wants to accept it but she can’t help but think of Joel taking her out of the hospital. She thought he just did it for his own selfish reasons, to have a 2nd chance at protecting his daughter. But by the end of this conversation she realized Joel loves her for who she is and not just projecting Sarah onto her.
That’s so fucking sweet. 😭
When the screen turned black at 7:32 I saw my self crying in the reflection. The story of this game is amazing and the fact that they can put me through a crazy roller coaster of emotions is very impressive. This game forever in my heart ❤️
it's actually pretty genius. ever since the incident in seattle, the only image ellie could see of joel was him brutalized and lying on the ground bleeding. that was all the memories of him that she had been seeing. and right as she was about to drown abby and finally get her revenge, she sees a different image of joel - for a split second in her mind, she sees him sitting on his porch, guitar in hand, looking at her benevolently.
we later find out that this image is this memory of hers with joel, the last conversation they ever have before he dies. she tells her that what he did was fucked up and she doesn't believe she's capable of forgiving him, but she wants to try and forgive him regardless, to which joel says "I'd like that".
and we see that image of joel in abby just as ellie is about to drown her. she remembers her promise to joel - that she would try her best to forgive him. and ellie could never fulfill that promise because she lost joel before she could completely forgive him. so she instead fulfills that promise by forgiving abby (another person she believed she could never forgive), thus in an indirect way, symbolizing that she has forgiven joel in her heart too. by doing that, she's left the memories of abby and joel's death behind her, her heart is now at ease. but it's a bittersweet ending, she was waaaaaaaaay too late in doing the right thing, and revenge just consumed everything she had left in her happy life.
i can't stress enough how much i love this game. it's most certainly a piece of art and naughty dog just cemented themselves as the master of storytelling with this one if there was any doubt about that before.
one more silver lining in this whole thing is that throughout the game, we think that the last conversation ellie had with joel was her shouting angrily at him after he drove off seth. we thought that ellie had refused to talk to joel properly ever since she found the truth in front of the hospital all the way till his death. but by showing this scene at the end of the game, we feel relieved that that was not the case, joel died knowing that ellie wasn't eternally angry at him and wanted to forgive him eventually.
Yes I fell in love with this story. The dualism between Ellie and Abby is good to me. I'm happy Ellie did the right thing and she didn't lose herself :)
This was exactly the way I perceived this whole story as well and you put it elegantly. I thought this storytelling was phenomenal. It hurt to see Joel die, but that doesn’t make it a bad story either. I wish more people would stop fixating on his death or Ellie not killing Abby, and start to realize what the story was trying to show us. This wasn’t a story about revenge, it was a story about forgiveness
Sinjohn Taylor - A lot of the bad reviews, or at some of them, are from people who either hate the game for Joel dying, or saw the leaks and immediately made their decision that the game was bad then. There are also people review bombing the gam, so that’s part of it.
@@cmdr101z8 some of them go even further and have threatened Laura Bailey's life for being the voice of Abby 😔
Their strife is pulling them apart but their need for one another always brings them back together. Powerful.
It has been almost a year and I still come back to this and cry everytime.
Ellie in the epilogue is in a great mental state. She is sad and grieving but that’s normal and healthy. She learned to forgive not only Joel but herself. She realized that her life isn’t her immunity and that she is deserving of love. She can’t play the guitar - but she no longer needs to either.
Her life’s meaning in the epilogue is a blank slate (in a good way) - what used to be her survivor’s guilt haunting her death is now gone. She thought her life meaning was her self-sacrifice which Joel took away. Now she is completely free. Free to live her life, to give her life her own purpose, to love and be loved. It’s a very hopeful ending and I’m very much looking forward to Part 3 so we can finally see Ellie in a state where we all want her to be.
It cost her 2 fingers, but she reclaimed her autonomy.
Ellie’s strength, resilience and willpower to live even after hitting rock bottom is honestly in a way inspiring. Ellie in Part 1 was an incredible character, but Ellie in Part 2 has positioned her as my favorite character in any form of media.
She’s gone through immense physical and mental trauma since 14, and hit absolute rock bottom in Part 2, and yet she still picks herself back up. She still finds her life worth fighting for. She’s gotten kicked down so many times, she’s gone through so much, but she doesn’t give up on her life.
@@RetroVideoGamer23 The “I’m scared of ending up alone” is something I attributed to her childhood as an orphan and the trauma from for example Riley. She never was “loved”, she never had parents. She didn’t have anyone, nor did she feel deserving of love.
She has developed a lot, and epilogue Ellie isn’t the same as 14 year old Ellie. She now knows and understands she can be loved and is deserving of love.
Seeing Ellie trying to play guitar but ultimately can't is heartbreaking
this is the scene i finally broke and cried. joel and ellie's relationship is so important to me. i'm gay and i didn't have a father who cared for me like joel cared for ellie. their relationship helped me through a lot of bullshit in my life.
Yes dude, I fucking cried and I feel so bad for ellie
Why are u geh?
@@R3dBr0s cause women are hot.
@@katya.g524 did you know the meme?
@@R3dBr0s lmao
For those of you who wants to know the music at 7:00 it's " The Last of Us 2 - Unbroken "
Not the same one though :|
I think this version naver came to light. If anyone finds it please tell me.
Thank you bro. Although not the exact version I’ve been searching for this forever!
Hey guys, ok so here's the good version : th-cam.com/video/Rk_HaAtLtbU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheLastofUs%7CFansite
Tlou1- Ellie ends with “okay”
Tlou2- Ellie ends with “okay....I’ll see you around”
Left behind ends the same way, with Ellie saying okay
Meanwhile she didnt see him around 💀
Ellie finally understands why Joel did what he did. IMO, if the immune one was Riley, Dina or heck, even Joel, she probably would've done exactly what Joel did in that moment. She finally gets what it was he was fighting for, what he was trying to protect once she lost it all. Her fear came true, she ended up alone. And now Joel is gone and she can never take back that moment to forgive him.
She’s alone now but she has the chance to mend things. Dina and her baby are still out there (probably in Jackson) she has a community in Jackson. If she ever wanted to search out the Fireflies she could. Her world isn’t over and she won’t be alone forever
Theres also a lot of fairly convincing details in the last parts of the game that elude to ellie already living back in jackson, and just coming to the farm for the guitar
Yeah you are true and Ellie is not alone she could go back to Dina and jj and have a happy ending.if naughty dogs releases tlou3 i would wish that Ellie will not feel worse for not forgiving Joel and have a happy ending with Dina..
6:40 This anxious breath ...
So sad, he's desperate because she hates him , he just want to be a good father 😭
she doesn't hate him. she's just hurt.
how did he murder mankind? First of all a working vaccine wasnt guaranteed, and that was enough for joel to not even hesitate, and even if it worked, be honest do you think that they were just gonna save the world with that vaccine and just give it to everybody for free?like tyler1 said there could be wars for it, plus i think a vaccine at that point in that world wouldnt change a thing.
And don't forget: Vaccines only work on viruses. But the cordyceps is a fungi!
@@bruhman9687 facts
SoA is better than TWD it wouldn’t have been a vaccine in the conventional sense. it would have given immunity to everyone in the same way that ellie is immune, meaning spores and bites wouldn’t infect and then the remaining infected population could be wiped out because they’re not gaining any numbers.
Ugh I genuinely love that no matter what Ellie thinks of Joel… He never regrets what he did in the hospital- the fact he would do it again and again shows how much he loved Ellie
I never in my life thought my heart would break so hard over some missing fingers
When Ellie says she'd like to try to forgive him I wasn't sure if it were me or Joel audibly fighting back the tears. Turns out it was both
I dont know if anybody noticed this but Ellie’s house is the garage from Joel’s home. She still lives with him ❤️
Garage?? Lmao
@@bossprime5798what is so funny
One of the saddest and best written endings in any work of fiction I have ever seen honestly. It symbolizes moving on but also always keeping your loved ones in your heart even after death
If you're a dad you know. Your own child telling you they forgive you, and they still love you - that will shatter the tough exterior of any man. I absolutely love this scene so much.
He's her dad. 😭
Biggest fear of ellie is to be alone and now she lost it all at the end.. what a dark ending
Just remember in Part 1, when you get to play as Ellie for the first time during the winter season. She has a letter from her mom. Towards the end, the mom writes "I'm not going to lie, this is a pretty messed up world. It won't be easy. The thing you always have to remember is that,
life is worth living! Find your purpose and fight for it."
Then you have Joel at the end of Part 1 that tells her to find something to fight for.
Ellie has the memories that will drive her forward. I believe that this was a game where she was ready to die but also die trying; then finally at the end of the story got the will to live on. In the beginning of Part 2, before Joel's death, she mentions that she would love to die old.
She wasn’t alone because Dina never left Ellie they just moved to Jackson and Ellie went back to pick up the guitar
@@starrigby5994 Dina left her because she didnt stay and listened to Dina and when Ellie picked up the guitar she left it in a window, now Ellie is pretty much lonely she got no other family or friends to stay with. Thats why the story is dark I think you may rewatched the ending in TLOU2
To be fair, Ellie's fear of being alone was demolished when Joel died. Towards the second half of Part 1, Ellie's fear became not of loneliness in general but rather of losing Joel then feeling alone. What other person could she possibly have that connection? Not Dina up to this point. Part 3, though...
Hispanic Scott Baio she didn’t shout for Dina, she didn’t have any weapons and she wasn’t injured anymore
I love that it's what is not said that speaks a lot, just after she says "my life would have mattered", he says: "I would do it all over again"
It's his way of saying she matters to him
Exactly. Him saying that, knowing everything he lost for it, he'd do it again...and her saying she'd like to forgive him...is each of them telling the other that they love them. And I think they both understood that.
seeing that scene for the 100th time, still crying every fking time.
To me, this flashback is what gave the game a secretly almost happy ending. You spend the whole game thinking Ellie never got to forgive Joel, and he died thinking she’d hate him forever. It haunts you the entire game, and at the end it seems Ellie really lost everything in the pursuit of revenge. But then you realize no, they were on the path to forgiveness. Joel knew things would be ok with them eventually. Ellie would heal with time. There’s a sort of resolution in her mind I think when she sets down the guitar and walks away. She’s accepting what’s happened and moving on. One of the most layered and emotionally complex finales ever.
I totally agree! The part where ellie doesnt kill abby isnt meant to just be “REvEngE iS, So DOnt Do IT” its a message saying maybe theres still hope. For all of us. Maybe we can all still be better. Ellie finally realised why Joel really saved her. Its because in a cruel and broken world, a cure wont fix anything. But kindness and compassion for one another will. The giraffe in the first game is a metaphor for that: purity and love. Now ellie finally sees that too, and is able to truly make a difference and move on. (Hence her literally walking away in the ending.) The entire game is one of, if not THE most Human stories.
I’ve seen so many comments saying that Ellie is a terrible character, there’s no character development for her etc. but I disagree during the flashbacks with Joel she was still the happy joyful teenager we all know but ever since she found out the truth about the fireflies, I feel like that it really broke her mentally, like what she said “my life would’ve mattered” that’s all she thought about. Being the cure for mankind you know make a difference and the end of the first game Joel tells her “you gotta keep finding something to fight for” and she realized what that was, it was Dina. Till this day I don’t why there’s so much hate on this game, it’s so well written
Basically? They hate the way Joel was killed and that everything Abby related
i think now i understand what Troy Baker said on twitter about people either loving or hating it, i thought it was him saying the game was gonna be shit since i saw the leaks and kinda fell on the hate bandwagon a bit, but after actually seeing through the game i realize he meant some people would disagree with the choices made in the game especially with the ending because we all see revenge differently, some of us think it's a good thing and others think it just isn't worth it and might make us loose what little we have left which is what happened to ellie and i think abby realizes this too in the end, so what i'm trying to say is "Revenge is a fool's game"
@@BeyondBirthday8 just like what abby said "when you lost in the darkness, search for the light". when abby got lost in the darkness because her father's death she keeps walking around in that darkness path by seeking vengeance, and when she got that vengeance nothing change to her, she still got that sleep terrors. but when she starts to save people lives (search for the light) the sleep terrors disappear, and she got that beautiful dream when she meets her father, smiling at her.
It would have been a good story.... for a standalone movie. The main thing that critics don't get is that while the first game was a very good game gameplay-wise, what drove it was Joel and Ellie's developing relationship. That is why you see fans hating it while critics love it. Critics are supposed to review the game as unbiased as possible. The problem is that the fans do have a bias and that bias was what made the ending of the first game so emotionally confusing and great because you don't necessarily support his decision but you deeply resonate with him.
It's well written in concept not in execution as an experience it flopped
Just think of joel being with sarah right now...
... and missing Tommy and Ellie
@@SBJ84 at least Sarah wouldn't turn on him like Ellie did if it was Sarah instead of Ellie he saved she wouldn't react like that
GET OUT
But if Sarah knew her father had doomed the whole Earth just to have “her” back....
One of the most painful things is that you hurt your loved one. And getting a sec chance is somehow a blessing. His breath is telling how much anxiety he had, that he was about to maybe lose her once again. But this time he could not simply control it. It looked like a million tons of pressure was released from Joel from her saying ''I would like to try'' I can only imagine how happy Joel was from that moment.
💔
That ‘Hey’ soften my heart and breaks my heart at the same time OMG 🥺🥺😭😭😭😭
4 days after finishing the game and I still sad and can't stop thinking about this. Am i the only one? This is not only the best videogame i have ever played, this might be the best story i have ever been told. Thanks for this masterpiece ND, and thanks everything I have learned of you both, Joel and Ellie. 🍃
Me too, jesus this breaks my heart
exactly bruh.... so much different from any other video games. this hits different. i don't get why some people telling that this game is not good, but for me it was really good. it's sad but it will hits u that this is the reality of life. it's not always revenge, it's always the forgiveness matter. hoping this game can get a DLC or part 3 for dina and ellie closure. this broke me two for about 3 days. i remember i got to wake up then i remember this scene, it saddens me.
And, Red Dead Redemption is also very emotive.
Trust me ur not alone, it's maybe the game with the strongest storyline ever made so far. Just brilliant and we should be happy story driven games are still being released.
@@Screll I completely agree the first game and the second are maybe my most beloved and closest games, I feel like I've made them jesus, I love them with all my heart
I see many people talking about how this scene show they become close to each other again, but i dont know if you guys realize that Ellie "home" is on Joel garage (you can see it from joel home window before leaving jackson). Also ellie always use the spaceship pin from her birthday on her bag, even after their fight on the firefly hospital. These things seens to show that she always loved him even when she was also so angry.
Good catch
As someone with PTSD, I really liked the ending of this game. This is just my opinion, but for me - At the end Ellie was suffering with PTSD, obviously
- not sleeping, not eating, the flashbacks, the going off by herself into the woods, and the feeling she HAD to go after abby - is realistic to me. it's difficult to describe anyone without it, but PTSD can often feel like you are physically trapped with no way out of your own reality. That your whole life is closing on you. That the past is forever there, suffocating you. Obviously you relive it through flashbacks, but it's more than that.
When Ellie said she had to go after abby, it was because she felt she had to not because she wanted to - She wanted to stay with her new family, but she had to stop her brain reliving the traumatic past again and again. She had to escape the trap, and she felt the only way was to kill abby - the person who really made her feel trapped to begin with. but I think she knew, deep down, it wouldn't help her escape. but hey, desperate times, amiright?
When ellie finally confronted abby, what were her words? "I cant let you leave" She could have said anything else "I won't let you leave" or "I'm going to kill you". Those would be words from someone confident, someone making the rules. but she didn't. those words "I can't let you leave" were very specific. they're words from someone not in control - someone who feels they didnt make the decision. A soldier following orders would say "I can't let you leave" or someone feeling like they had no choice in the matter, someone trapped -
like ellie.
At the very end ellie didnt have to kill Abby. When she was on the verge of killing abby, when abby couldnt fight back and was about to drown, Ellie had basically won at that point. it didnt even matter if abby lived or died past that point, as there was nothing abby could have done to change the outcome, and ellie realized that she probably has "won". And it didn't help. There was no opening of the trap, it didnt fix anything so she let abby go and she wept. still trapped.
It wasnt until she came back, sat alone with guitar she could no longer play, and thought about joel and forgiveness that, maybe, she realized that the only way out of the trap was to forgive mistakes of the past. forgive yourself for not being able to change the past. forgive others for being human.
I dunno. maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see, see what makes sense to me. But still, I like the ending. People complain about the ending, saying ellie didn't get her revenge against abby. but they miss the fact that everything after the farmhouse - Ellie isnt going for revenge. Shes going because she feels like she has to, to try to fix herself.
On a much simpler note, Lev would be absolutely fucked if Ellie had killed Abby, she'd have 3 options
1) kill a trans child, which is an absolutely insane ending
2) kill a trans kids guardian in front of them and then basically take them hostage forever, which also makes Ellie into a horrible person
3) abandon the trans kid in the wilderness, where it's probably going to get raped, murdered or both
neither the writers nor Ellie herself could live that down, once Lev came into the picture it had to turn into an ending of forgiveness
I saw your comment on Jacksepticeye’s ending video too, gl in life bro
I love that silent ending, Ellie has lost everything and is alone. Perhaps she is just now understanding and that she will discover what happiness and forgiveness are. This melancholy in her silence already says everything, she is already tired of what happened in the past, and as we can see. She probably won't forget Joel, but she will learn to deal with this pain by leaving a part of her behind and trying to move on, as she is wearing Dina's bracelet. Dude as sad as the ending is, he's perfect, the philosophy behind him is amazing.
What if part 3 is about her making a choice of sacrificing herself for a cure or keep on living
This game is incredibly Shakespearean in its structure. A tragedy about love, hate, redemption, and forgiveness.
Yes!
She surely lost herself. Joel's last shot was so damn sad. Just a sad old man. He did what he did out of love for Ellie. He loved her like a daughter 😭. She finally felt redemption once she was about to kill Abby. She remembered the last good memory she had with him in where she tells him she'd like to forgive him, same applies to Abby? And does anyone else think the new menu screen is Catalina Island?
Thats why she couldnt sing the song, she had lost herself
Druckmann confirmed that abby and lev made it
I think that memory of Joel more sums her knowing he wouldn't want her to go through with it, and that to be selfless and let Abby who, like Joel, is this innocent child's now protector with Lev, free to go, to give them a second chance at being better people, the same way Joel found a second chance with Ellie. Joel wanted for Ellie to be a better person, despite pushing her hate too far and losing everything she's ever cared about in the process, to finally let go of the anger and pain.
Yes. Abby and Lev made it. They found the fireflies!
Fun fact: Like Joel committed atrocities until he found Ellie, Abby committed atrocities (torturing Joel) until she found Lev.
The fact that Abby bring lev's corpe in the beach reminded so much of Joel.
@@eliasbonafe9236 Wow good attention to detail! I'm sure that was the intention
"I would like to try" and "I'd like that" = two lines that brought my ass to tears. For all its flaws, this game really is something incredible.
When Joel said he would do it all over again you could see in Ellie’s face she realized how much Joel cared about her.
Me: cried during initial playthrough
Also me: comes back to watch this again ; ;
It's a shame that the only parts of the story that moved me were in relation to carryover from the first game as I could have cared less about Abby because her dad tried to murder Ellie. If he would have just been honest and told Ellie the truth along with Joel at that hospital he could have avoided all of this.
This scene was so touching. I love how you can hear how much sadness and anger are in Ellie’s voice when she says to Joel, “you took that from me.”
So good.
Honestly, I hated this game when it first come out but I'm beginning to appreciate it more and more as my life goes on. There's something powerful here.
5:59 Absolutely one of the best character moments for Joel, and showed his bravery. He acknowledged Ellie’s feelings but made it abundantly clear he feels he made the right choice, even if it meant losing her forever.
I’m glad it paid off for him. Though he died, I feel it hurt just a little less knowing Ellie forgave him.
It’s been pointing out many times but Joel’s body language makes the scene. He stands up and looks right at Ellie and defends his choice. The whole scene is masterful.
When Joel said "I'd do it all over again," it shows how loyal he was to Ellie. Speaks volumes to his character and that comes to show he was truly a man of conviction. This is why us fans got attached to him so much
Beautiful, sad... After 41h of gameplay on survival, my heart was crushed... And I love this game for it, since the first trailer this is the kind of story I was getting ready for and wanted to experience. Unfortunately most people weren't ready for this. I don't know, maybe they wanted some live happily ever after kindda story. I understand, most people don't know how to deal with sorrow and hurt, but I love when movies, games, music and art in general crush my feelings
How the hell did it take u 41 hours bruh
@@edfreid it's pretty hard on survival, man. Plus I like to play slow. I literally walk around some of the places (pushing the left stick slowly). I like to play like this :) First time I played TLOU1 took me 18h, which is also above average game time.
this game broke me but good god did i love it
Honestly. I understand why there is a hate, but... I totally loved it.
Jekavac TV it was an emotional roller coaster with a bleak ending, but it makes sense. The quest for revenge cost her an abby everything
@@MegumiCiBear abby had a happy ending tho. ellie ended up alone
@D H in the end, ellie matures and finally realizes that revenge isnt worth it, but its too late. shes lost everything. i dont think she went to jackson tho. hopefully the devs can make a dlc to close ellie and joel's story and focus on maybe a different group of survivors? (definitely not abby)
@@shanaimanraed7459 ill never forget joel no way. I have such a bad remorse for him he never got to be on good terms with ellie truly sad that they made him die like this 💔
I still can't wrap my head around the question how Ashley Johnson isn't a huge star in Hollywood by now. Her performance in the TLoU series was stellar.
One of my all time favorite scenes in gaming history.
I absolutely love Ashley's delivery of "I was supposed to die in that hospital, my life would've fucking mattered. But you took that from me."
6:48 the break in her voice :(
They were both crying 😐
Joel was the best dad ever
Weird how The Last Of Us played such a big part of my teens growing up. I used to be obssessed with Joel and had shirts with him on. My TH-cam picture is still of him xD
But I never knew my relationship with my own dad would be so similar to Joel's and Ellie's. My dad hid my mother's death from me for a while to protect me at an important stage of my life. He did a lot of things to protect me but ended up hurting me more. I spent my teens, not hating him, but almost pretending he didn't exist, emotionally. But he continued to love me very much regardless, in his own way.
Then 9 years later covid happened and I began to rekindle our relationship. I had done my emotional healing, but felt like I have held onto the idea I didn't have a dad anymore longer than I needed to. I realised what a shame it was feel like I didn't have a family whilst they were still alive. He was old and needed support and I gave him that, as much as I could. I could see how happy this made him, and it made me happy to feel like I was starting to get my dad back. I couldn't see him much, as I lived far away, but would have a call every week or two. He would always talk a lot about himself and... about the same sort of things.. but this most recent call, our last one, he didn't talk a lot. He just listened to me, how I was, my outlook on life. It was a really nice call, he definitely felt like my dad here.
A few days later, I woke up to my partner getting a call at 6am, and somehow instantly I knew what it meant. No idea how my brain figured it out. My dad had suddenly died.
We hadn't fully fixed our relationship, but he knew that's what I wanted and he knew I loved him. And he knew I knew he loved me.
I guess Ellie and me left it too late. Ellie more late than me. The lesson is you'll never know how long your friends and family will be around. Holding onto your own negativity and pain is a waste of life.
Watching the Joel silently break down like that broke my heart. He cares and loves Ellie so much, she’s his whole world, and despite everything, just wants what’s best for her. Even if she doesn’t want him around. I’m just glad that they got some progress before he passed, that Ellie was finally ready and willing to try and forgive him. That little piece of hope, “but I’d like to try”, slowing cracking the door open for possibility of their relationship growing and them overcoming obstacles. This conversation is so heavy knowing that it was their last, yet also relieving knowing that Joel passed away knowing that Ellie was ready to forgive. I’m glad she was finally making it towards acceptance and was finally starting to get some closure and some peace of mind after everything. It sucks seeing Joel go like that, one of my favorite video game characters ever, but The Last of Us Part 1 & 2 are masterpieces and I’m so glad I was along for the ride and got to see everything be released when it was, and watch the story unfold.
I don't ever remember crying at a video game, but this scene absolutely made me break down. At least Joel knew Ellie still cared for him, and was willing to try and forgive him before he died..... 😔
I really wished he or she said “I love you” at least once throughout the game.
action speaks louder than words
Me too.
People say I love you in various ways it’s not necessarily verbal :)
“I would do it all over again.”
What a perfect summation of the series’s themes. Through the story, there’s always this message about needing to cherish the smaller experiences despite them being part of (or complicit, in Joel’s case) a dark chapter in a person’s life. Joel’s return to fatherhood was never built to last, but at the very least, he still has all those good times. Same as Ellie succumbing to revenge, it’s just as ephemeral. We think we want to be somebody, but accepting how we feel in this moments is the more important part. We can choose a new beginning, while still accepting our past.
We can do it all over again.
They did Joel so much justice in this scene! Proved he was a real father because even though he knew it was Ellie's right to defend herself, JOEL WILL ALWAYS PROTECT ELLIE! NO MATTER WHAT!
Ellie not being able to play the guitar is such awesome symbolism. In her attempt to seek revenge she lost a part of herself physically, but more importantly she lost something on the inside
After time reflecting I've found that I really love this game. It's not on the level of part 1, far from if but I just can't stop thinking about it. For the past couple nights since playing I've been up late just thinking about this game.
I’ll take a sequel that takes risks over a conventional rehash of the first. I really liked part II because of that. I’ll stand by the argument that the first game didn’t need a sequel but in a sense part II is different enough that they both stand on their own.
@@Neo47MORGOTH I Have to ask, did you play or watch in entirely?
I can't stop thinking about it.. its painful and games don't do that for me often.
Really bad game. But Ellies flashbacks are great.
Same here dude, can’t get it out of my head. Not the sequel I expected but enjoyed it for the most part. Wish there was more Joel and Ellie scenes but hey, the ones we got really hit home.
Man, I wept after this scene. Seeing how hard Joel took Ellie not being around was heartbreaking. Enjoy the people in your life because tomorrow isn’t always promised.
Joel’s death was tragic, but he died so Ellie could live. If he knew that him saving Ellie would mean his torture and death he would’ve still done it. Joel got his happiness is seeing Ellie alive. In seeing her grow up. Have a crush. Fall in love. Even if he couldn’t be in it, it didn’t matter. What mattered was her being happy. Thankfully he died knowing Ellie loves him and wants to forgive him.
What really hurts is Ellie noticing this too late and not being able to fix things. That is something very traumatic.
2:57 My man Joel is killing it with that finger picking. Hot damn!!
Do you know the name of the song he plays? Or is it just a random melody?
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@@arthurmorgan1021 that's a long name for a song
Emre Turan pretty sure it’s Simple Man (Acoustic) by Shinedown but I’m not 100% sure
@@bardur112 yea xdd He says dont know the name in turkish xd
I loved this game so much and it makes me sad to see it getting hated on.
The only good parts are when Ellie and Joel are on screen.
The mishandling of Joel, the forced SJW bullshit, playing as abby and the ending are only a few of the games flaws. It's rightfully getting hated on.
I'm actually somewhere in the middle. I didn't love it, but it's also nowhere near the garbage game people make it out to be. I'd give it a 6/10, possibly a 7/10.
Funny how you go back to this scene to watch. it's like the game is manipulating you from the strength of the first game with these flashbacks aka the only good story parts. and by far the best parts of the game, they caught lightning in a bottle with Ellies and Joel's relationship. And to waste it like they did is just sad
Radin V what exactly is the forced sjw bullshit? like what is it PRECISELY?
The fact that Joel is playing a song called helplessly hoping only makes this scene even more heart wrenching
I wish Ellie could have hugged Joel and somehow that makes me feel like that's what Ellie feels too.
Ellie: I'll try to forgive you
*2 days after*
Ellie: Please No
It pains me that Joel didn't get forgiveness from Ellie
Soul Striker he did get forgiveness, but not when he was alive :(
I actually think it's one day later not two. that makes it even sadder :(
Sadly some people don’t get that sort of closure. Ellie’s obsession with revenge was also her frustration at not being given the time to grow closer with Joel after so long distancing herself. In the end Joel is fully forgiven and Ellie is absolved of her self hatred/guilt
god this game absolutely broke me...her trying to play guitar hurts my heart i just hope she's on her way to see dina and potato that's the only thing keeping me sane :(
It’s been a month and I still crying at this conversation
Did you get over it, I just played and I’m still really sad 😢 does it get better ?
And at minute 9:05, after 25 hours of game and the most emotional scene in it, ending with an iconic shot... cuts to black. And with that tragic/epic music, Naughty Dog put its fucking balls over the table and says "this is our game", take it or leave it.
The two best performances I've ever seen and I'm including movies. Phenomenal, the weight of the emotion here is just so intense.
this game is better than movies. they worked on this for years, perfecting every last detail, every scene. the fact that you get to be the character adds even more to the experience.
Yall never watched a good movie lmao
@@vent9409 it's sad you didn't get the experience we got out of this. hope you find something that does.