Rich Eisen on Mac Jones’ Fall from 1st-Round Pick to Holding a Clipboard Behind Trevor Lawrence
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- Rich Eisen comments on the New England Patriots trading former 1st-round draft pick Mac Jones to the Jacksonville Jaguars for just a 6th round draft pick in return.
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Doing the Griddy in the ProBowl is gonna be the highlight of Mac Jones career lol
I mean, I fail to see how that’s necessarily that bad of a thing
@@Jack958it’s not great. He only made it to the pro bowl as like the 7th alternate from the AFC. And the probowl itself is a joke as the game itself has now been completely disbanded by the NFL.
@@coldwinter5428 how many pro bowls you been to big dawg?
@nikmaciejewski3857 The way alternates work nowadays, it could be any day now. The top quarterbacks think the probowl is a joke, so they won't attend.
@@coldwinter5428lol ppl keep forgetting he put up good number as a rookie in a stacked Afc Burrow and Allen was the only qbs who played better that didnt play in the pro bowl and mac jones was throwing the ball to shitters all season and they offense was rankes like 7 in the lg with him ppl love to discredit players
This has gotta be one of the best sports talk show tbh 👏
Fr 🎉
Get a room!
@@northwestkidmarc lol fair
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Rich is goated
If Josh McD had stayed in NE, both Mac and Bill might still be there. Bad outcome for all three.
At this point, you have to think that McDaniels will never figure out how to get out of his own way. It's almost impressive how he apparently learned NOTHING from his time in Denver, and did the exact same dumb things with the Raiders.
Like Belichick, McDaniels was only successful when he had Tom.
@@sinocte No argument there... but I'll give him credit for making Mac look better than he really was. He's really not a bad offensive coordinator. He will get another job, just never as a head coach.
@@clarkkent1521 Not true... he was the worst head coach ever, but had some level of success as an offensive coordinator even with Matt Cassel and Mac Jones (who looked better as a rookie in McDaniels' system than he even came close to looking ever again).
@@michaelcoletta4547 Not really a flex to say McDaniels coached Mac better than Patricia and Judge. The 2008 Matt Cassel season, 11-5 sounds goods if you only look at those numbers, but they missed the playoffs meaning at least 6 teams performed better than them in the conference. They also had the 28th hardest schedule which is a big reason why they were able to get 11 wins. Compare that to 2007 with the 8th hardest schedule and 2009 with the 4th hardest schedule. If Cassel started any other year he doesn't even win 8 games.
It's sad how the Patriots failed him. Belichick is to blame for surrounding him with garbage talent and constantly changing his OC. But it's also on Mac. His attitude sucked as things went downhill. I understand how shitty it was, but the constant outbursts and bitching started wearing on me. He also showed no improvements or awareness. He was mentally in his own head all of last year which led to all those picks. He had 1 game all year that was a stellar performance and besides that looked pitiful. Going into last year I was his biggest supporter, but now I'm just happy that the rug and everything else has been ripped up. New coach new QB. I'm ready for what's next
Dude plays dirty instead of playing hard. He never had it in him to be a starting QB in the NFL.
@@ohyababyohyea idk he's started more games than the youtube comment section has so he's been doing something right
@@Zoggosh that isnt an accomplishment
Had a decent rookie year tho
Mac is total garbage. Good riddance
Rich is so awesome! He is not just a “best dad”; he’s good people. And he’s right, especially in today’s world.
Belichick said him up to fail after McDaniels left. One of the most dumbfounding decisions ever to give him two OCs neither of which had prior experience to calling an offense was just downright stupid
The ice cream lines made me cackle
😌 In all seriousness, Mack will be competing for that job b/c Pederson is on the hot seat, and may flourish in that West Coast system - camp will tell it all ... Another scenario could be if Lawrence gets injured and Mack gets provides a spark. 🍿👀🏈
And the NE offense had NO O-line and NO wide receivers.
yeah it's sort of frustrating that now all the sudden they're going to finally address those and put a better team around whoever they draft. as a Pats fan, i hope Mac is able to figure it out and show NE that they fucked up. love Bill and i think he tried to piece it back together last year but it was too late; he was trying to build a defense that could carry the offense, and just run the ball, similar formula to the first Pats dynasty, but it was just too little too late. we knew the issues going into the season and he didn't address them. there are other issues, too, losing coaches, scouts, executives etc., and ownership that was increasingly undermining his authority (going behind his back to work with Mayo), but the buck stops with Bill.
What does that have to do with that horrific throw in Germany? Or those terrible throws vs the Cowboys, Saints, Raiders and much more. Go back and watch and you will see clean pockets by NFL standards. Terrible throws that cost the team. Interceptions in over 80% of the games when taking a sack or throwing the ball away could have won some of those games.
Miss us with that regurgitated no weapons argument. It doesn't excuse the bad decisions.
@@TsepeteLet's say you are a regular person working for a company. Not only do they not care about you, they hire two managers that have idea what they are doing and you have to do what they say. They also hire employees to work along side you that you depend on, but they are making your job more difficult. You can't quit and find another job because you are contractually obligated to work there. You are probably going to stop caring and start making a lot of basic mistakes. A lot of people hate their job and stop caring with a lot less than what Mac had to go through. And don't forget the most egotistical COO you've ever seen.
@@clarkkent1521 To say Patricia had no idea what he was doing is crazy considering he started his coaching career on offense. He coached offense at both college and professional levels. Just like McDaniels started on defense. The media programmed you to think coaches cannot comprehend the other side of the ball. Even as DC and HC he still had to understand how offense works for him to game plan in addition to his past experience. And offense looked way better when he was calling plays vs when the "real" OC came along.
As for Mac, even if all your points were accurate he is still to blame. I have a better analogy. Imagine a pilot who gets rattled and starts to make mistakes because of issues caused by poor maintenance and management. Even if its not his fault, would you want him flying any plane youre on?
The point is Mac Jones is not mentally tough enough to be a starting NFL QB. Many successful QBs still made the right decision on game day even though their situations were crappy. No excuses.
@@Tsepete If it's not the pilot's fault, it's not the pilot's fault. The only reason people would be hesitant to hire that pilot is because he is now associated with something negative, even though it wasn't his fault at all. Someone who is falsely accused of rape will always have that association of rape with him, even though he didn't do it. The mishandling by others can forever ruin a person's life that didn't do anything wrong. The school to prison pipeline. If you treat a person like a criminal, they may grow up to be a criminal.
And Patricia's highest offensive rank was assistant o-line coach for one year. Not really a stellar offensive resume.
The worst thing that happened to Mac, was Josh McDaniel taking the job in Vegas. The loss of continuity which followed, completely destroyed his potential. 4 coordinators in 3 seasons, that would destroy most any young player.
Dude played football his entire life; he was young when he was 8.
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Remind me which Patriots receivers can stretch the field?
Mac just needs some time to learn from sane, competent people for a change much like Trevor did after the Urban Experiment. The two have a lot in common, and Peterson is the right guy to manage it.
Patricia shouldn't be a coach in the NFL. Bill Bellichick is a glorified DC that can't win without the GOAT at QB. Any other HC putting a defensive coach in charge of the offense and with the total failure in the draft would be run out of town with pitchforks.
.... and torches
Not into soorts like i used to be, but appreciate REs reasonable volume and lack of desire to tear down - unlike most modern sports mouth-runners.
Not only is this an awesome sports program, but it also has a solid community. Most comment sections are bickering, trolling messes. This one is more positive and you can actually chat sports. Keep your sticks on the ice folks.
The endzone interception against the colts would have ended the career of any quarterback over 30 years old
i have to lay the blame on belichick for ruining this first round pick. no one else. reason? the same reason why belichick thought brady was no more than a system quarterback. belichick was the star in his own eyes. he could do the same with any quarterback, or so he thought. how has that worked out for you, bill? mac jones behind trevor lawrence is a good move for the jags and for jones. jones needs time to put back the pieces belichick discarded. my instincts suggest that jones will yet become the quarterback that saban saw in him. he will rise from the ashes. if trevor gets hurt, if jones gets enough time; mr lawrence may be the jags drew bledsoe. not saying that jones will rise to brady's status, but this is the nfl, and when quarterbacks are given a chance, the starter often eventually finds himself working elsewhere.
Too much stock in Alabama QB who played with a Hiesman WR
Its nice in a way, where he gets to reset his headspace back in his hometown of Jacksonville - reminds him where it all got started, maybe itll rejuvenate his spirit honestly. A year back at home could do his soul wonders
"Hey ma, you got that couch ready? Doesn't look like I'll be a millionaire much longer..."
I wanted Mac to go to the Colts. He can't bounce back to ever being the player he was at Alabama while standing behind Trevor Lawrence.
Bradshaw has stated how he needed a more supportive coach than what he got.
Bradshaw worked out, will Jones recover ?
Rich really knows how to weave a narrative. He's a modern day bard.
It's Art. And football is lucky to have him.
Absolutely Correct
Not a Patriots fan (and also one of those people living under a rock I guess, I don't watch college football) but man I do feel bad for Mac and Zack, these poor dudes have been put through the ringer, with Zack it was from day 1! Publicly being dismantled like that, can't be good for a young man's mental health. I wish both of those dudes the best man, I really do.
As a pats fan I don’t think Mac was ever going to be an elite QB. But god damn did we fail this guy, he’s better than what we did with him
What a historically bad QB class:
Zach Wilson (sucked, trying to get traded)
Trey Lance (got hurt, replace by Purdy, traded)
Mac Jones (sucked, traded)
Justin Field (sucked, will get traded/replaced by Caleb Williams)
Kyle Trask (barely played, backup)
Kellen Mond (barely played, backup)
Davis Mills (sucked, backup)
Ian Book (barely played, clipboard holder).
Only Lawrence has had any sort of success
Good point and im not even sure about Trevor Lawerance being more than average-
his rookie season was a wash because of Meyer. Second season he did well. But last year I was thoroughly unimpressed.@@JMichael-xc7uu
Terrifying, when laid out like that 👍
Thank you!
Lance, Jones and Fields *might* still have a chance to develop into decent starters. No guarantees, of course, but I don't think we can close the book on them after 3 years. Especially with Jones and Fields being bad situations.
Wilson, on the other hand, just looks like a 7th rounder who accidentally got selected overall. (That might ultimately apply to Lance, too)
They set him up to fail, fresh off Brady’s legendary career in NE, big shoes to fill and he had arguably reached his ceiling very quickly
Rich is amazing at how he commands the story, how he doesn’t stumble and portrays events beat for beat, with emotion and humor.
Where is the criticism for Belichick ruining this guy's career? Belichick genuinely set this guy up to fail by his 2nd year.
Very sad indeed how he was failed by the organization, and it happens to so many players. The lazy take is to say he sucks, but the nuance is he looked great his first year with a solid offensive staff, and was set up to fail his second year with the joke of an offensive staff assembled by the team.
The Pats finished the 2021 season losing 3 of 4. They started the season losing 3 of 4. The teams they beat leading up to the playoff blowout loss were losers all year. My question is. Was Mac as good as the record suggests? No. Teams figured him out. It's not surprise BB tried to trade him because he saw Mac's ceiling at the same time other teams figured him out.
He is not NFL starter material.
The Patriots defense allowed an average of 31 points in those 3 losses at the end of the season. Then allowed 47 in their single playoff game.
@@clarkkent1521 You are correct. While the defense was getting blasted due to age, the offense couldn't do anything with the ball. Blowout losses are a reflection of the team, not just the defense.
@@matthewbarry4464 So which is it now? Teams figured Mac out, the defense aged, or the whole team is to blame for blowout losses?
@@clarkkent1521 All of the above.
thank god. Mac jones sucked so bad. Mcdaniels did his best to keep the training wheels on. Once they were off man he sucked. he shouldve never been drafted in the first round
The ice cream bit made me LOL😂
Rich is as solid a news hound, and with his posse bringing up the end... Rich Eisen is getting to be my favorite non-stop news setter for sports.
Mac needs a few years to grow up and hopefully become a leader of men. He did ok the first year, but he also had a lot of help facing some weak competition that gave false hope. Hence the drumming the bills have the team that year in the playoffs.
Rich Eisen is by far the best sports media man out there!!!❤
" Do you need Sprinkles"..... OMG Showing why you're the best. smh. Keep it going. I love hearing you and the crew talk football like no other channel.
I feel bad for Mac. I feel like he’s one of those guys who wouldve been really good in the right situation
M.Jones & T. Lawrence were 2020 Heisman Trophy finalists along with K. Trask who held a clipboard for the G.O.A.T.
Bill destroy this kid. Mac was a very good QB with the right coaching but Bill's ego was too much. I am glad no team wants him
What exactly was “very good” about him the one season he wasn’t horrible?
I love the praise for Christian Kirk. Had him on a fantasy team when he was in Arizona and damn I am a fan lol, totally in his corner on him being a sneaky good receiver
00:00 🏈 NFL stories and legendary moments
00:42 ⚡ Jones' memorable entry in the 2021 NFL Draft
01:13 🌟 M Jones' early success and struggles
02:05 🍁 Memories from the Patriots vs Chargers game
02:47 🎉 M Jones makes it to the playoffs and Pro Bowl
03:23 📉 The downturn in M Jones' performance
04:13 🔄 M Jones' trade and its implications
05:09 🏠 M Jones heads to Jacksonville
05:54 🔍 Comparing Trevor Lawrence and M Jones' stats
06:43 🚀 Peterson's confidence in reviving M Jones
08:49 🍫 The "Urban Meyer experiment" critique
09:38 🏆 Trevor Lawrence's playoff resilience
10:14 🏈 Injuries impacting players during the Jacksonville Bills game
10:51 🤝 The strong relationship between Trevor Lawrence and Christian Kirk
11:25 🔍 Criticism of Christian Kirk's move from Arizona to Jacksonville
11:40 💬 Debate over Trevor Lawrence's performance
11:51 🚀 Mack Jones's potential influence on Trevor Lawrence
12:44 🍦 Doug Peterson's unique ice cream Saturdays for Jacksonville players
13:01 🤗 Doug Peterson's supportive coaching style for Mack Jones
Key Moments by Agent Gold AI
Thank you, saved a listen.
13:00 "rocky road ?" lmaoooo
Can y’all stop Matt jones isn’t that good of an quarterback to start in the NFL
I am just glad he is out of NE!
Yeah, he looked OK, on all those behind the line of scrimmage throws. The ones that went past the line of scrimmage, went less the 5 yards. He only went to the Pro Bowl, because several picked in front of him didn’t want to go.
Jones was actually better under Patricia and Judge, than he was under O’Brien.
They need to do a case study on teams throwing promising picks to the wolfs
Kudos to this show for pushing positivity.
I had been watching the nfl for 3 or 4 years when this draft happened. But even i knew that was a horrendous choice to put the opposite side of coaches for your 2nd year qb
You can talk about the Pats and Bill destroying this kid all you want, but it’s Mac Jones’s decision making that doomed him. He chose to throw those unbelievably bad interceptions. He chose to kick a grown man in the balls when a play didn’t go his way. He chose to bitch and moan and show his teammates and coaches up on the field.
Almost every first round QB taken in the history of the league has coaching turmoil around him; you’re not picking that high because you got a stable nurturing environment on your team. Mac Jones just needs to grow up if he wants to make it in this league.
Tom Brady didn’t need no damn sprinkles.
I still can't hear Nick Folk's name without wanting to yell "PUT YOUR HEAD DOWN!!"
Mac just needs a coach who understands offense, Billy wasn’t that guy
Joe Judge, Matt patricia, and Bill o brien. Yeah....everyone after his pro-bowl rookie season was total garbage
What a devious title for this video lmaooo
fingers crossed for poor little mac! 🤗
Shout out Shaker Heights!
He was to immature and lost the locker room, doing that little dance I mean dude really, and the dirty moves! I think this will help him grow in so many ways and now hopefully he will get another chance
Mac scrambles like Tom so we’ll give him that 😂
It couldn’t have happened to a better guy like Jones. Talking all that trash in his rookie season, kicking players on the crotch, over confident 😂
Amen
The scariest thing is how similar jones and Lawrence’s career stats are….not in a good way
Kirk Cousins has equal to or better passing stats than Josh Allen.
Yeah now go look at just their stats from the last 2 years, and one is clearly better than the other.
@@albertpierce9891both profoundly disappointing and incredibly average.
That was a great segment 😅
BTW, Shaker Heights is a lovely inner ring suburb of one of the greatest cities in the world 🌎
And yes,
I DO indeed mean Cleveland! 🥰
It was a nice little reference
- and it neighbors Cleveland Heights, ALSO a super cool part of the east side and home of the Kelce brothers (and a part of what makes their personalities so unique and likeable).
Why do Clevelanders love the Browns so much?
It's because they love their great city that much. 😊
Rich is absolutely right. Christian Kirk is the engine of our wr’s. When he got hurt I knew it was a wrap. Trevor was already beat up and went down in that bengals game too. The Oline was garbage, back up qb was meh, and the defense fell sleep the last 5 games. We will be alright this year
Pats shoulda kept Garoppolo.
Belichick would have ruined him too.
@@clarkkent1521 Nah Belichick loved him.
Thats a brutal title.
Remember when Chris Simms tried to convince everyone that Mack Jones was amazing and the 49ers were gonna pick him #3 overall?
Chris Who?
He also said Zach Wilson was by far the best QB of that class.
New qbs are so immature not only do they need good sensitive coaches they need 2 to 4 years to compete in the NFL .... the future is scary
The fall... Bellychick. If one is not Tom Brady, he cannot overcome that level of antiquity and totalitarianism
He got a good game against the Bills last year
Mac never seemed is a guy with a really high ceiling as a draft prospect but he did seem like a guy who had a good chance that if he went somewhere that had a good process in developing him while he transitioned to the NFL, especially a staff that were realistic about where the likely ceiling was and where he current was relative to the cdiigabd accordingly coached him and did what they reasonably could to structure the offense strategy to meet him where he was at to focus on his most competent abilities and could adjust to accommodate those things to accommodate the highest chance tbings that there was a good chance he could be a solid starter who you could win games with. And you can never fully write off how effective a guy with the right people and process surrounding him as he grows may adapt into if they reciprocate those things with a work ethic and attitude that makes that elevation possible. After all New England with Tom was the perfect example of way can happen with a guy who may not have all of the athletic gifts that catch everybody’s eye but had all the right traits to rise to not only maximize whatever ceiling he was thought to have and rose above that as well.
But the way they handled Tom I. His early stages was the opposite because they actually met Tom at where he was at and developed things that gave him his best chance for success. The way they handled Mac was about as bad as possible. And while Mac never had a super high ceiling there’s something to be said that you need to handle people in ways that give them realistic chances that they can actually succeed to have a chance to reach whatever potential is there. For somebody like Mac it does suck so he may never have risen to being elite but having a young QB who still needs some seasoning being led by guys who don’t coach offense and not playing well and then being in and out of playing like a hot potato has his chance to succeed lowered so much. And destroying somebody’s confidence that makes it almost impossible they recover into success and that stinks.
Mac "Sprinkles" Jones. Let the memes begin!!
Should grab Drake Maye at 3 but then let Mac bounce back then trade him for draft picks!
Man Mac johns was so overhyped and still is
How is he overhyped though? Just about everyone says/ knows he aint it lol
@@TheForbiddenOne55 easy he should never been a pro bowler I think 3 vets said no to it, so his only pro bowl was a participant award. And I’ve never seen a qb heathy the whole game and throw 3 passes. People are still talking about him,
I hear ya. We all want Willy Wonka as a coach. Maybe Doug can sing him a song too. "Come with me, and you'll see, an offensive scheme of pure imagination..."
Remember pats fans comparing him with TB12
Wait a second, if Mac just needs someone to put their arm around him, how tf did he play for Nick Saban?!
He had sark
Bill screwed mac over big time. And mac didnt help at all.
ah man Kenny Picket analogy did not age well lol...
Mac Jones needs people who not only understand offense but get his confidence back up. Plus his receivers got to have separation and had a terrible offensive line and no help, even in the backfield there was no threat
The way Bill’s time ended at New England and after watching Dynasty and the way he talked to to even HoF players in team meetings
Bill ain’t never gonna be a head coach in the NFL again
There’s no way the players of today are playing for a guy like that, they’re just not built or thick skinned enough like that.
Cold world
Matt Patricia lol
This is an “i give up move” .. thought he would go somewhere to kind of compete for starting job…guy must really be down and just needs to be out .. but how do you come back from that.. surely not in Jacksonville. A stepping stone ?
Can’t believe he’s gonna have his hat on backwards
When will teams realize getting the right QB is only half of the equation. Regardless of how good these guys are they need a solid and consistent coaching staff, and o line. QB is just part of the puzzle. Teams like NE, Carolina, and Chicago keep putting the blame on the QBs and not the coach or GMs
This is what I've been saying to my fellow Jag fans. Look at how bright and happy a soul Mac was on draft day and how well he played his first year. Then he's just been miserable. Let him come home and be a back up for a year, less pressure, he's still doing the routine, and he'll get some nice emotional detox from New England. Then next year maybe he gets picked up to start somewhere else rejuvenated, or decides he likes it here as a back up, who knows.
Mannnnnnnn Mac Jones had Cam Newton players his first year. Those players were free agents came for Cam. Mac Jones in Alabama had talent around him.
attitude problem he better get use to being a back up...that's what he is
13:47 You want sprinkles?
Without Josh McDaniels he was doomed.
Man, Rich Eison is a legend.
Thank you but your faith in it qb. Trevor is the best thing that’s happened to our franchise in over a decade.
Inheriting a 1-15 team, then having to play under Urban Meyer, to winning a playoff game in just his second year (first real year). I say Trevor has done quite well with what he's been given.
Not one mention of the atrocious offensive line and average at best skills? Last year he played mostly with a revolving door of guys drafted in the 6th round or later… what nfl team does that? No others…
I watched some of the NE games when Jones started his first season, he played well. I think that Bill B is a difficult coach to play for. He was not nice to Brady and Tom Left NE shortly after their last meeting with Bill B and the owner. BB is NOT a nice man.
"An Unexpected Turn of Events in Foxboro, MA" : Mac Jones didn't want to be part of that horror movie.
Chris Brockman again being a casual "if you throw the stats up with no names Max Jones and Trevor stats look identical" bruh haven’t you learned already ? You were saying the same thing with Russ and Pat, and Lamar with Pat and then worse of all that Purdy was better than Pat solely based on stats. Again typical analyst just reading stats and not watch the games.
Jags know some QB next season will be injured and the Jags will have a nice trade for a future pick.
The title of this video is out of pocket lol
Rich you can say the same thing about your boy who you tried to defend constantly ……Kenny Pickett…
Mac was fined for dirty plays and no one liked him. Stop making excuses for him. He brought a lot on himself.
As a Lions fan I witnessed Matt P ruin a lot of young football players. His ego and no talent arrogance deserves a new career change!
Kenny picket fell quicker, I imagine he's not gonna start ahead of hurts. When mac was drafted, they said he might be the best qb, and it was a perfect marriage between him and belichik.
Mac needs Ted Lasso.
Lawrence never ignored his coaches from midfield or dropped F-bombs on them in front of 10s of thousands of people. Even when Lawrence had Urban Meyers that richly deserved a chorus of F-bombs weekly.
Welcome to QB purgatory.