I am a volunteer firefighter and our department takes pride in speed and efficiency. Sometimes you need to lay all analytics and politics aside and put wet stuff on the red stuff!!! And FAST!!!!!
The structure and it's contents were a loss before the first engine even dumped it's brakes, and there were no at risk exposures. There was literally no reason to hurry on this job.
That's a lot of personnel within the collapse zone. And by "a lot" I mean more than one. One thing we're trying (starting last summer) is giving our volunteers 100' of 1-3/4" line and a nozzle, and if they get on-site long before the engine then they should deploy that line after doing a 360. Hooking up a pre-deployed line sometimes speeds things up, but sometimes results in an empty line that never gets used. We're still working on this idea, but that concept would have given the guys at 3:20 something productive to do.
@@virgilhilts3924 Do you train to sit on your thumbs, VIRGIL, or do you train to find a better way to do things? How would YOU get a line deployed more quickly?
@@JasmineLindros Any firefighter can deploy a cross-lay faster than you could drag around your hose and tie into an empty discharge... guaranteed. That is literally one of the dumbest things Ive ever heard, so much so that I doubt you even volly... and thats saying a lot because I've seen them do some pretty dumb things. Further, what is this "quickly" nonsense? The structure and it's contents were a loss before the first engine even dumped it's brakes, and there were no at risk exposures. There was literally no hurry on this job, in fact this is one I would have let the inexperienced guys get some time on.
@@virgilhilts3924 How can a firefighter deploy a cross-lay when they're not yet on site, VIRGIL? I'm impressed with your sprinting speed if you can haul 100' of line out of its bed and run it out to the fire faster than you can tighten a hose connection that you're standing right next to, but us mere mortals aren't that fast.
@@JasmineLindros Dummy... YOU are the one who asserted that you can "speed things up" by "pre-deploying" your volley hose. I... an actual experienced firefighter of 30+ years, am telling you that any FF can deploy and put into service a cross-lay from that engine faster than you can drag your idiotic idea over to wherever the engine stops, remove the discharge cap, connect your dumb idea, and put it into service. Not to mention the fact that I cross-lay can be selected based on what is needed. So much so I'll even make you a bet... Come to my FD and we will test your idea side-by-side ON CAMERA for playback here on YT. My 30+ years worth of grey-hair against you and your dumb idea, we can stage the scenario however YOU want it, in fact, we can set it up just like this video. If you and your dumb idea can get water faster on target than me, I'll pay 100% of your travel expenses and give you $1,000 in cash. If I am faster on target I'll drop my bunkers and you kiss my behind on camera, and then donate that $1,000 to a firefighter charity. Let me know when you are ready... Dummy
I can't believe what I just watched. Are you kidding me. Sure glad we don't have a FD like that. "Well Fred whatca think we should do". Well there Clem I ain't really sure".
Im guessing no real command was in place, why was there so much panic the building was gone it was only to put the fire out and protect neighbour buildings, and hose lay out every been practice?
No good time for any structure s fires but in the winter it really hiders progress and safety issues on site mad respect for these men and women besafe 👍🇱🇷
Fires this size create so much heat, they make their own wind currents. You'll notice the same thing happens on wildcard fires..........." fire-nadoes" they are sometimes called.
It's likely because they arrived on scene in their private vehicles and there's no engine there yet. It's pretty clear you don't have any experience in volunteer firefighting or common sense.
With what? Their peckers? Volunteers, they probably showed up in their pov. And idk about you but I don't walk around with bolt cutters in my pocket to open that gate.
What exactly is "slow" about this? The building and it's contents were a total loss before the first apparatus even arrived There were no at risk exposures So what's the hurry?
my q is..why are so many of these fires not being attacked from the ladder trucks with water cannons??? what i do see is they are used for aerial surveillance only..
If the roof is still intact, it shields the fire from overhead streams. Even if it's not intact, if it's sheet metal it can still deflect an overhead stream and pour all the water off to the side. Hose streams through a doorway or window, however, can reach into the structure under the roof and hit a lot of fire that overhead streams cannot reach. Also, towers usually put out A LOT of water, which can spray debris around the area where the stream impacts. That's not a problem in large fires, but in small fires like this the fire fighters are closer in and it's easier to hit them with debris.
Was there a water shortage? There should have been at least 3 2 1/2 lines right off the bat, one in each big door and one hitting the roof , then set up the ladder truck ! Theses guys were walking around like they didn’t have a care in the world !
@@Barflax I was always pro extinguishment, the exposures were not in much danger so heavy water was my best bet put the heat out stop the spread ! But 99% of the time exposure is number one priority after rescue!
Seeing some of these comments on here, there's alot keyboard fire fighters.. My dad was a volunteer Firefighter, and so many Factors come into play into what seems like a long time to get water onto a fire just as it seems like an ambulance takes forever to get to you when you call 911. Yes, there are some departments on video that need refresher courses but for the most part it's these reasons. 1. If you live in a city, you have paid in station Firefighters at the ready when an alarm comes in; everywhere else has Volunteer Firefighters who are at home, at work, out running errands who have to get to the fire hall from where they're at. Also, they cannot just jump into a firetruck and leave with 1 or 2 people, they have to wait for so many people before they ride to the scene. And at the time if people are working, how many are allowed to leave their jobs to get to the firehouse and on scene. 2. Time passed until fire noticed and if there were fire detectors/ hooked up to the alarm systems and 911. Alot of places like this do not, as some businesses do not want to pay for a detection system or sprinkler system. If the fire is in a "industrial area" and it's on a weekend or nights or both, chances are that there's noone working at the time and traffic passing by is non existent, if that's the case then that fire has plenty of time to get going and by the time it's able to be seen with smoke and or flames, that structure is well involved. AND... if there is enough Firefighters to get your structure..is it 1 alarm or 5 alarms, 1 company or 5 companies needed and if its volunteer then the distance those companies are from the scene and where the volunteers are at time of the call. If it's a small structure and there's 4 towns called in, that says there wasn't enough volunteers available for the 1 company they had to call the next and the next and so on. 3. Entry to the property, this place was fenced off and locked. They had to get a truck in there, wasn't getting through the little gate door. All businesses and homes with keypad locked entry should be made to report their unlock codes to 911 center to keep on file in case of a fire or police situation. They finally got the fence open 4. Acces to water. Are there hydrants on the property and do they work! And working in the weather conditions. A. No hydrants on the property or sprinkler system is a huge setback. Now Firefighters have to find hydrants nearby, if not, a "Pumper" has to come in to do the job of a hydrant, with regards to water supply AND pressure. B. Weather!! The last week Western NY State has been at below zero Temps. We had a melt then the Temps went below zero, the roads were bad, and salt stops working at a certain temp, therefore getting water out of the hydrants.. and onto the fire.. without turning to snow... or freezing in the hose. You can see the white spots on the parking lot where the water was freezing up. If the hydrants or lines freeze up then you have to find another hydrant or water source. 5. Contents inside burning structure. . Are there Chemicals, Corrosives, Explosives, Ammunition, Gasoline, Oil especially in an industrial structure. If the info inside not on hand at 911, then they have to get ahold of the owner or manager/supervisor. Firefighters have to know what they're looking at especially in an industrial structure fire. Water on Oil/Gas will spread the fire so they need to use a different extinguishing method. So many Factors to fire fighting an industrial structure as opposed to a home, but again if you live in city limits where Firefighters are on station 24/7, the response time much quicker than living outside city limits.
Dad was a volunteer, rural, fireman until about 20 yrs. ago. There was no internet, cheap shipping or even knowledge of half the volatile substances available for anyone to purchase, in bulk. I cringe at every industrial fire video knowing the possibilities to harm anyone within a mile or more. Has anyone thought about a "good faith" list for commercial, industrial or farm properties regarding what may be stored within the building at any time? An "anonymous" list without repercussions attached that The Chief or dispatch can refer to? Yes, it sounds idyllic, but a majority of building owners do appreciate the firefighters, have relatives that fight fires or are not responsible when arson is suspected. The "worst" occurred for our group when they did a training burn of an old barn without checking what may be in the loft. It was an abandoned, unsafe and smaller barn. Upon lighting, firefighters noticed a peculiar, maybe familiar aroma. Local teens had the entire loft stacked with drying marijuana and at the time, our town had NO fast food establishments. (taco bell, doritos, etc....) We still laugh about it. Again, the thought of anything explosive or water reactive was not even considered. I personally would volunteer to maintain some sort of reference for all first responders. There would have to be a legal clause without releasing any personal info, names or such to the public. Just a rapid statement informing all to beware. Yes, alot of manhours and website maintenance, but well worth it. Thoughts from an "old school" Wisconsin girl. Michele
Such lists do exist, they’re referred to as MSDS (material safety data sheets) as well as Right To Know forms. They’ve been around for a long time but they typically only apply to a business or commercial establishment where hazardous materials or goods are stored and sold. They also apply to transportation as well. These are required to be kept on the property and readily accessible to the fire department. If it is a personal property or farm with let’s say a barn as you described, the owner does not need to inform anyone of anything kept in it, past or present. That is that person’s personal and private property so the owner has no obligations to provide any pertinent information unless they choose to do so.
No reason to risk injury or worse by rushing here. There is nothing left of the structure worth saving upon arrival, and to be honest, if there was anyone in the structure with that much fire load upon arrival.....sorry to say but they're gone. This is a training fire. Nothing left to save aside from any exposures. Give the new guys a line and let them have at it.....teach those two on the big tip how to hold it down, take a seat on it and order coffee. Like I said, with this situation what's the rush....don't like how they did it, post some videos from your own country so we can critique them.
@@PreservationEnthusiast what exposures? Did you see something in the video I didn't? How do you know that no one did a 360 of the scene then make the call whether there was any danger to surrounding life and property? The only safety concern here...besides those ff standing way too close as that section of Wall fell... is ice from the flowing water, which would be a concern regardless of how quickly they attacked it. I don't understand why you think there was a huge urgency to put this fire out. As you can see the two ff trying to control the big pipe and getting thrown all over could uses some more training....which when there's no threat to life and property, why not let them learn.
@@fdMT_EnGy No urgency to put fire out. I didn't say that. I said reduce heat. The fire building was total loss. I said prompter action to reduce risk to exposures. There were other buildings around. Fire can spread through all kinds of routes if you have studied fire engineering, which I doubt, judging by your comment.
Wait....wait....wait....still not hot enough. Is the media here yet? Wait....roll out the hoses anyway....no rush! Wait...."Where's that water comin' from?"
I grew up in the neighborhood in the 50s and 60s. My father was a Doyle 2 volunteer for a while, drawing on his aircraft carrier experience in WWII. The buildings were originally the LenCo lumber yard. I suspect that they were all wood construction. That would explain how easy it went up.
@@michaeljarosz4062 Thank you for enlightening me to the fire spreading so quickly. That would probably happen to where I live. I live in an old grist mill (built in 1862).
Other than the first arriving firefighters who came in their own vehicles, when did you see them just standing around??? And what were they going to save in the original fire building????
What a disgraceful display. Starts off with 3 guys standing there watching a fire. Next we get a 3" line and the operator cannot operate the line. Everyone involved with this turnout should watch this video. Shameful.
@@virgilhilts3924 I didn't even know you had a point much less how to help you prove it. I didn't like something on a you tube video and you got offended by my comment. I find that extremely childish. I suppose you won't like my thoughts about that either. :)
@@Jerry_SWMO Says the clown who didnt grasp that the "3 guys standing around" arrived by POV so there was no apparatus yet Again, thanks for proving my point 😉
Good for UK firefighters.... There was no reason to rush here. Apparatus not on scene yet, someone needs to open the gate, then...what's the rush? Why risk getting hurt to save a foundation? It was beyond saving upon arrival. Make it a training in real-time operation. Give you UK firefighters a gold star from us here...for rushing to save what's only a foundation upon arrival.
@@lordIanHouston maybe some, but in this case there was no rush, no reason to risk injury to save nothing. Why are you teaching US firefighters from the UK?
im no firemen but that took way too long. may well let burn out @ 5.10 mark watch how slow you see them moving theres no rushing no running..noting thank god your not in my town...thank god...booooooooooooooooooooooo
![**Early Arrival w/ COLLAPSE!** 4 Structures FULLY INVOLVED in the Bronx [BX 3rd Alarm Box 2186]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/t9g-z5YafsU/mqdefault.jpg)
I am a volunteer firefighter and our department takes pride in speed and efficiency. Sometimes you need to lay all analytics and politics aside and put wet stuff on the red stuff!!! And FAST!!!!!
Absolutely the truth!
I had many volunteer fire fighters in my life and they had the same saying as you 👍
The structure and it's contents were a loss before the first engine even dumped it's brakes, and there were no at risk exposures. There was literally no reason to hurry on this job.
@@virgilhilts3924 All you muppets should listen to this guy. He's an expert. Just ask him if you don't believe me.
@@Jerry_SWMO
Oooooooooo you're triggered 🤣😂😅
That's a lot of personnel within the collapse zone. And by "a lot" I mean more than one. One thing we're trying (starting last summer) is giving our volunteers 100' of 1-3/4" line and a nozzle, and if they get on-site long before the engine then they should deploy that line after doing a 360. Hooking up a pre-deployed line sometimes speeds things up, but sometimes results in an empty line that never gets used. We're still working on this idea, but that concept would have given the guys at 3:20 something productive to do.
That is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard
@@virgilhilts3924 Do you train to sit on your thumbs, VIRGIL, or do you train to find a better way to do things? How would YOU get a line deployed more quickly?
@@JasmineLindros
Any firefighter can deploy a cross-lay faster than you could drag around your hose and tie into an empty discharge... guaranteed. That is literally one of the dumbest things Ive ever heard, so much so that I doubt you even volly... and thats saying a lot because I've seen them do some pretty dumb things.
Further, what is this "quickly" nonsense? The structure and it's contents were a loss before the first engine even dumped it's brakes, and there were no at risk exposures. There was literally no hurry on this job, in fact this is one I would have let the inexperienced guys get some time on.
@@virgilhilts3924 How can a firefighter deploy a cross-lay when they're not yet on site, VIRGIL? I'm impressed with your sprinting speed if you can haul 100' of line out of its bed and run it out to the fire faster than you can tighten a hose connection that you're standing right next to, but us mere mortals aren't that fast.
@@JasmineLindros
Dummy... YOU are the one who asserted that you can "speed things up" by "pre-deploying" your volley hose.
I... an actual experienced firefighter of 30+ years, am telling you that any FF can deploy and put into service a cross-lay from that engine faster than you can drag your idiotic idea over to wherever the engine stops, remove the discharge cap, connect your dumb idea, and put it into service. Not to mention the fact that I cross-lay can be selected based on what is needed.
So much so I'll even make you a bet... Come to my FD and we will test your idea side-by-side ON CAMERA for playback here on YT. My 30+ years worth of grey-hair against you and your dumb idea, we can stage the scenario however YOU want it, in fact, we can set it up just like this video.
If you and your dumb idea can get water faster on target than me, I'll pay 100% of your travel expenses and give you $1,000 in cash. If I am faster on target I'll drop my bunkers and you kiss my behind on camera, and then donate that $1,000 to a firefighter charity.
Let me know when you are ready... Dummy
I can't believe what I just watched. Are you kidding me. Sure glad we don't have a FD like that. "Well Fred whatca think we should do". Well there Clem I ain't really sure".
Im guessing no real command was in place, why was there so much panic the building was gone it was only to put the fire out and protect neighbour buildings, and hose lay out every been practice?
GREAT JOB ! 🇺🇸
Basic ‘surround and drown’ - protect exposures!
A stitch in time saves nine.
...and train the new guys in a real-time situation.
I'm a disabled fire fighter and it is so stupid on here where the fire department just sets around and doesn't fight them right away
Good one.
No good time for any structure s fires but in the winter it really hiders progress and safety issues on site mad respect for these men and women besafe 👍🇱🇷
love the "experts" on here, sheesh
what cause the wirl wind in the fire? look like a tor
Fires this size create so much heat, they make their own wind currents. You'll notice the same thing happens on wildcard fires..........." fire-nadoes" they are sometimes called.
Isn't there water on the first truck? Please explain why three FF are watching at 3:24 and not even using water cannon or something on the fire?
Chief! It's Sunday!!
It's likely because they arrived on scene in their private vehicles and there's no engine there yet. It's pretty clear you don't have any experience in volunteer firefighting or common sense.
With what? Their peckers? Volunteers, they probably showed up in their pov. And idk about you but I don't walk around with bolt cutters in my pocket to open that gate.
How long was that going before it was noticed?..
I guess we're not familiar with collapse zones.
Never seen a uk fire crew arrive at a fire and just stand there watching it like a small child
There wasn't much to save anyways as the first crews arrived
Thank God it was only a storage unit that burned down that can be rebuilt.
Why on earth are they so slow???
Because it's a volunteer fire watcher department.
What exactly is "slow" about this?
The building and it's contents were a total loss before the first apparatus even arrived
There were no at risk exposures
So what's the hurry?
my q is..why are so many of these fires not being attacked from the ladder trucks with water cannons??? what i do see is they are used for aerial surveillance only..
If the roof is still intact, it shields the fire from overhead streams. Even if it's not intact, if it's sheet metal it can still deflect an overhead stream and pour all the water off to the side. Hose streams through a doorway or window, however, can reach into the structure under the roof and hit a lot of fire that overhead streams cannot reach. Also, towers usually put out A LOT of water, which can spray debris around the area where the stream impacts. That's not a problem in large fires, but in small fires like this the fire fighters are closer in and it's easier to hit them with debris.
Was there a water shortage? There should have been at least 3 2 1/2 lines right off the bat, one in each big door and one hitting the roof , then set up the ladder truck ! Theses guys were walking around like they didn’t have a care in the world !
Sometimes you can't save the building, better to protect surrounding buildings.
@@Barflax I was always pro extinguishment, the exposures were not in much danger so heavy water was my best bet put the heat out stop the spread ! But 99% of the time exposure is number one priority after rescue!
There is a reason that they call you Little Huey. Do you often run code in your BarcaLounger?
@@RLTtizME I do now after 35 yrs of service last ten as A chief in charge of training , I think I deserve it !
@@littlehuey5679 Yeah...well take it elsewhere. This is not a forum for your unsolicited lectures.
Good reporting
Seeing some of these comments on here, there's alot keyboard fire fighters..
My dad was a volunteer Firefighter, and so many Factors come into play into what seems like a long time to get water onto a fire just as it seems like an ambulance takes forever to get to you when you call 911. Yes, there are some departments on video that need refresher courses but for the most part it's these reasons.
1. If you live in a city, you have paid in station Firefighters at the ready when an alarm comes in; everywhere else has Volunteer Firefighters who are at home, at work, out running errands who have to get to the fire hall from where they're at. Also, they cannot just jump into a firetruck and leave with 1 or 2 people, they have to wait for so many people before they ride to the scene. And at the time if people are working, how many are allowed to leave their jobs to get to the firehouse and on scene.
2. Time passed until fire noticed and if there were fire detectors/ hooked up to the alarm systems and 911. Alot of places like this do not, as some businesses do not want to pay for a detection system or sprinkler system. If the fire is in a "industrial area" and it's on a weekend or nights or both, chances are that there's noone working at the time and traffic passing by is non existent, if that's the case then that fire has plenty of time to get going and by the time it's able to be seen with smoke and or flames, that structure is well involved. AND... if there is enough Firefighters to get your structure..is it 1 alarm or 5 alarms, 1 company or 5 companies needed and if its volunteer then the distance those companies are from the scene and where the volunteers are at time of the call. If it's a small structure and there's 4 towns called in, that says there wasn't enough volunteers available for the 1 company they had to call the next and the next and so on.
3. Entry to the property, this place was fenced off and locked. They had to get a truck in there, wasn't getting through the little gate door. All businesses and homes with keypad locked entry should be made to report their unlock codes to 911 center to keep on file in case of a fire or police situation. They finally got the fence open
4. Acces to water. Are there hydrants on the property and do they work! And working in the weather conditions.
A. No hydrants on the property or sprinkler system is a huge setback. Now Firefighters have to find hydrants nearby, if not, a "Pumper" has to come in to do the job of a hydrant, with regards to water supply AND pressure.
B. Weather!! The last week Western NY State has been at below zero Temps. We had a melt then the Temps went below zero, the roads were bad, and salt stops working at a certain temp, therefore getting water out of the hydrants.. and onto the fire.. without turning to snow... or freezing in the hose. You can see the white spots on the parking lot where the water was freezing up. If the hydrants or lines freeze up then you have to find another hydrant or water source.
5. Contents inside burning structure. . Are there Chemicals, Corrosives, Explosives, Ammunition, Gasoline, Oil especially in an industrial structure. If the info inside not on hand at 911, then they have to get ahold of the owner or manager/supervisor. Firefighters have to know what they're looking at especially in an industrial structure fire. Water on Oil/Gas will spread the fire so they need to use a different extinguishing method.
So many Factors to fire fighting an industrial structure as opposed to a home, but again if you live in city limits where Firefighters are on station 24/7, the response time much quicker than living outside city limits.
I'm not a firefighter and have worlds of respect for those who are. Thank you for taking the time to say what needed to be said.
It might be time to re-assign your hosemen to a different task and properly train the next batch.
don't be an arse. there was little strategy that needed to be employed here. access, water, water, bulldozer was all this fire was ever going to be.
Dad was a volunteer, rural, fireman until about 20 yrs. ago. There was no internet, cheap shipping or even knowledge of half the volatile substances available for anyone to purchase, in bulk. I cringe at every industrial fire video knowing the possibilities to harm anyone within a mile or more.
Has anyone thought about a "good faith" list for commercial, industrial or farm properties regarding what may be stored within the building at any time? An "anonymous" list without repercussions attached that The Chief or dispatch can refer to?
Yes, it sounds idyllic, but a majority of building owners do appreciate the firefighters, have relatives that fight fires or are not responsible when arson is suspected.
The "worst" occurred for our group when they did a training burn of an old barn without checking what may be in the loft. It was an abandoned, unsafe and smaller barn. Upon lighting, firefighters noticed a peculiar, maybe familiar aroma.
Local teens had the entire loft stacked with drying marijuana and at the time, our town had NO fast food establishments. (taco bell, doritos, etc....) We still laugh about it.
Again, the thought of anything explosive or water reactive was not even considered.
I personally would volunteer to maintain some sort of reference for all first responders. There would have to be a legal clause without releasing any personal info, names or such to the public. Just a rapid statement informing all to beware.
Yes, alot of manhours and website maintenance, but well worth it.
Thoughts from an "old school" Wisconsin girl.
Michele
Such lists do exist, they’re referred to as MSDS (material safety data sheets) as well as Right To Know forms. They’ve been around for a long time but they typically only apply to a business or commercial establishment where hazardous materials or goods are stored and sold. They also apply to transportation as well.
These are required to be kept on the property and readily accessible to the fire department.
If it is a personal property or farm with let’s say a barn as you described, the owner does not need to inform anyone of anything kept in it, past or present. That is that person’s personal and private property so the owner has no obligations to provide any pertinent information unless they choose to do so.
@@ritirons2726 Absolutely correct. Good preplanning will also give a dept. a general idea of what's there beforehand.
Are those Damages correct?..$120.000?..Seems like that would be a lot higher.
No official total was given.. i just gave a total to fill in
at least 550,000
Unfortunately it seems US firefighters move slow, in many of the videos I watch. I frightened about how long they would take to save me.
there was no need to hurry here
No reason to risk injury or worse by rushing here. There is nothing left of the structure worth saving upon arrival, and to be honest, if there was anyone in the structure with that much fire load upon arrival.....sorry to say but they're gone. This is a training fire. Nothing left to save aside from any exposures. Give the new guys a line and let them have at it.....teach those two on the big tip how to hold it down, take a seat on it and order coffee. Like I said, with this situation what's the rush....don't like how they did it, post some videos from your own country so we can critique them.
@@fdMT_EnGy They needed to fire up the deck guns and bring that under control much quicker. Reduce the heat and protect the exposures.
@@PreservationEnthusiast what exposures? Did you see something in the video I didn't? How do you know that no one did a 360 of the scene then make the call whether there was any danger to surrounding life and property? The only safety concern here...besides those ff standing way too close as that section of Wall fell... is ice from the flowing water, which would be a concern regardless of how quickly they attacked it. I don't understand why you think there was a huge urgency to put this fire out. As you can see the two ff trying to control the big pipe and getting thrown all over could uses some more training....which when there's no threat to life and property, why not let them learn.
@@fdMT_EnGy No urgency to put fire out. I didn't say that. I said reduce heat. The fire building was total loss. I said prompter action to reduce risk to exposures.
There were other buildings around. Fire can spread through all kinds of routes if you have studied fire engineering, which I doubt, judging by your comment.
This fire department needs a new chief now I feel sorry for the community
So how long does american firefighter to put out a fire?
Until all selfies are taken with the fire in the background and the annual squad photo for the calendar
@@Adam-de8xe I lol'd.
Not as long as whatever shithole you're from.
@@ffjsb lot of asshole apologists for inefficient slow-asses alleged fire fighters on this tread!!!
I am from England you need to put water on it as soon as possible not wait.
Wait....wait....wait....still not hot enough. Is the media here yet? Wait....roll out the hoses anyway....no rush! Wait...."Where's that water comin' from?"
Water would be good
WOW!!!
Was that arson. It sure burned quickly.
I grew up in the neighborhood in the 50s and 60s. My father was a Doyle 2 volunteer for a while, drawing on his aircraft carrier experience in WWII. The buildings were originally the LenCo lumber yard. I suspect that they were all wood construction. That would explain how easy it went up.
@@michaeljarosz4062 Thank you for enlightening me to the fire spreading so quickly. That would probably happen to where I live. I live in an old grist mill (built in 1862).
uh just stand around and watch it burn.......?
Other than the first arriving firefighters who came in their own vehicles, when did you see them just standing around???
And what were they going to save in the original fire building????
well, that was a waste of time. 100 fireman and the place still burns down.
Apparently this is a lost cause.
Gracefully burn it down.
I have found the problem!!! So many white helmets on scene!! Way way to many!!!
What a disgraceful display. Starts off with 3 guys standing there watching a fire. Next we get a 3" line and the operator cannot operate the line. Everyone involved with this turnout should watch this video. Shameful.
Says the muppet with no clue what he is seeing or talking about
@@virgilhilts3924 Awwwwww, look at you all offended and everything. Be quiet, the adults in the room are talking.
@@Jerry_SWMO
Thanks for further proving my point
@@virgilhilts3924 I didn't even know you had a point much less how to help you prove it. I didn't like something on a you tube video and you got offended by my comment. I find that extremely childish. I suppose you won't like my thoughts about that either. :)
@@Jerry_SWMO
Says the clown who didnt grasp that the "3 guys standing around" arrived by POV so there was no apparatus yet
Again, thanks for proving my point 😉
U.S. Firefighting OMG! Des is a oanzigs Desaster. Wos fir a Kindergarten.
6 minutes before the first pump sprays water """" Shame UK Fire Fighters """"" would have had it out in 3 minutes
Good for UK firefighters.... There was no reason to rush here. Apparatus not on scene yet, someone needs to open the gate, then...what's the rush? Why risk getting hurt to save a foundation? It was beyond saving upon arrival. Make it a training in real-time operation. Give you UK firefighters a gold star from us here...for rushing to save what's only a foundation upon arrival.
@@fdMT_EnGy Pff I have watched 100s of US fire fighter videos. I spent 11 years teaching fire fighters in the US. IN ONE EAR & OUT THE OTHER.
@@lordIanHouston maybe some, but in this case there was no rush, no reason to risk injury to save nothing. Why are you teaching US firefighters from the UK?
im no firemen but that took way too long. may well let burn out @ 5.10 mark watch how slow you see them moving theres no rushing no running..noting thank god your not in my town...thank god...booooooooooooooooooooooo
Amateurs!
terrible terrible terrible work
So called HERO fireman,lol what a joke.