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- Shortly after 3:30pm, a passerby noticed smoke coming from the rear of the house and called 911. Nobody was in the Victorian home, which was built in the 1800's.
With heavy smoke in the distance, a 2nd alarm was transmitted enroute. 3rd and 4th alarms were transmitted shortly after.
Due to heavy fire and deteriorating conditions, firefighters were forced to evacuate the building and go to exterior operations.
It took about 6 hours before the fire was brought under control.
Don't take windows till you have water on the fire!
That is a tragic loss what a beautiful piece of history
Not trying to second guess the local FD, but they had ladder trucks on scene but it didn't look like they were making an outside attack until pretty late in the fire.
They were doing massive interior attack. Trying to fight it from the outside at the same time endangers the interior attack teams from the water streams and flying debris it creates. I am curious however after it was confirmed all the crews were out of the building what it took so long to Uniate the outside attack.
Let's all stand around and watch
"Not trying to second guess the local FD"
-Any yet you are... derp
"they had ladder trucks on scene but it didn't look like they were making an outside attack until pretty late in the fire"
-Because they were inside working the fire... derp
H2O! Works a treat on a fire 🔥. Hoses are charged so not understanding why not use them earlier on.
Fire is fun. If you’re too fast with water it the fun doesn’t last so long.
@@lottnio8207 Don't think for one second that you are joking.
You just gotta love those fire officers who need to have a huge water supply instead of knocking the fire when it's small. I hope the officer in charge of this mess is gone.
Nice video. The words “take those windows” doomed this house
You have no clue what you are talking about
@@virgilhilts3924 Rather it is you who have no clue
They walk around in circles until the fire spreads throughout the house. I'll never figure out why they wait so long to get water on it
"They walk around in circles"
-At what point was anyone walking around in circles?
"until the fire spreads throughout the house"
-The fire never spread throughout the house
-It was largely contained to the third floor
"I'll never figure out why they wait so long to get water on it"
-There was water being put on the fire at the moment the video started and well prior
Piss poor to be fair.
@@andyoxleyonhistravels Never ending display of incompetent firefighting huh Andy?
@@virgilhilts3924 Yes, he misspoke. The fire destroyed the third floor and the fire department destroyed the rest of the structure with an excessive use of water.
@@JB91710
Says the 🤡 who's never fought a fire in his life 😂🤣😅
It's no wonder the thing burnt. Horrible job by the fire department. On many accounts! They should all be embarrassed plain and simple.
You notice every time you break out a window, you get fire blowing out of it a short time later? Study fire dynamics and modern fire behavior. It will change your fire ground strategies quite a bit.
Preach!
of course you do you are ventilating the structure and the fire is going to follow the air. The best way to save a building is to push the fire back to the direction that it has already burned. Example fire in the back of the house moving torward the front very easy to stop it's advance 1step ventillation fan at front door on and back opened up all heat and smoke and fire is going to be blown back torwards the back where it came from. then do a front a attack to the back fire can't advance in heavy wind blowing it backwards fire will be easier to fight.
Says the one who has never even set foot inside a firehouse let alone fought an actual fire
(cue the "I be da chief of muh fire dapartment wit XX years of da expereunce)
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@@wbuttry1
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Oh you pretend firefighters are always such a hoot
Virgil I think you maybe the phoney little troll.
Oh what a tragedy! A piece of history gone up in smoke! I feel so bad for the owner. Pray for him/her.🙏
So sad to see a home this old burn I hope they can repair it nice video Matt --- Debbie
Water usually stops the fire. Just saying. They vented but didn't have any hoses waiting to put water on the fire.
They were putting water on the fire from the inside ya dummy
That fire looks self vented. And if you actually watched the video you would see there is a line advanced for an interior attack.
If they were Viril then they were doing it very badly. As all that happened is things got worse.
@@virgilhilts3924 It's you again. Calling everyone names. You are so easily triggered. It's funny how you have no self-control.
@@jdaz5462
Its funny how facts hurt your feelings
I was not on scene don’t what is going on I had questions about the first video now I have ever more. That is a beautiful old house it hurts to watch this video.
there was no quick response to putting out the fire;
This is so sad. Prayers 🙏🙏🙏 for everyone. I hope no one got hurt.
I grew up in the south, helping my father split fence rails and cut fire wood and I can truthfully say that at 4:59, that is some of the weakest ax swinging that I have ever seen. Why don't the fire departments have someone teach the firemen how to swing an ax?
USUALLY, there FF’s lining up to swing that as hard and as accurate as they can… Clearly not with this FD!
Pony tail. We call that a clue. 🧐
Why not break the window; crawl in and open the door?????
Lady fireman
Why dont you go and teach these volunteers how to be firefighters?
Then they can be know-it-all blowhards just like you
The firefighters run around like in a chicken coop. Carrying fire brigade ladders, which are then placed unused at the house, seems to be particularly fun. Nobody seems to know anything about bolt positions to the neighboring part of the house. You put on the respiratory protection with difficulty on site, instead of on the way there. I wonder why they watch for minutes until the fire gets bigger and bigger before they use the water.
I disagree...I would have liked to have seen some running.
Says the one who has never even set foot inside a firehouse let alone fought an actual fire
(cue the "I be da chief of muh fire dapartment wit XX years of da expereunce)
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My last fire was an attic fire. Thought that went through my mind was, “I have never been so hot and this is my LAST fire!”
Glad no one was hurt.. hope it can be restored.
waited a little long to get water on it hate to say I think it could have been saved was first thing they new it was a attic fire should have got water into where it was coming through the roof first then as it got under control ventilated the roof. Even getting water in those port holes at the top would have majorly helped the situation. speaking from 15 yrs in the fire service.
Failure to put water on the attic fire is a huge error. You are there to subdue the fire, not let it burn. The men had all the hustle of little old ladies having high tea in the drawing room. Walk a ladder off the truck and stand around? Nobody charging hoses? Bust an attic window in, then spend time coaxing the extension around to position so you can bust another window? With no water ready to go? I am not impressed.
@ actually neal I have I served on a department for years cairo illinois and a small town volunteer department and i have ran into burning building in full turn out gear a scba carrying a 2 1/2 in hose. gone to wrecks at 2 am drug dead bodies out of twisted cars and gone to a families house and told them their kid was killed in a wreck.
@ this is what I am getting at right if the fire is on the third floor it is safe to go in and do a interior attack even at the stair well.between 2nd and 3rd floor unless if the roof is already caving in and from what I seen it was still totally intact. But each department has their own risk assessment they do at each fire some dept will go in while other will just do outside attack. But I agree we were not there and don't know the whole story.
Your comments prove you have ZERO experience fighting fires
Looked very poor to be fair.
I rarely comment on these volunteer FD videos. Check around the 12 minute mark when they are breaking out all the windows. Strange how breaking windows creates an unlimited flow path and spreads fire. The balloon construction on this along with hard to break lathe and plaster was a challenge no doubt. Classic balloon frame construction fire. Straight into the attic. Still, hopefully this FD does some flow path training.
You have literally no clue what you are talking about
Breaking windows is how you clear smoke from the house so the firefighters inside can see where they are going.
the tweekers break into your house in 15 seconds, the fire dept fights the door for 15 minutes.. 5:00
What a bummer!! This place was a gorgeous estate before this happened!!
This is sad. So sorry this happened.
Slow to get water on fire.
My 80 year old mother had to cancel her home insurance due to her Medicare and supplement costing so much, things like this scare me to death, if she has a fire it would be devastating.
That's not true the president says everything is fantastic
Looks like you were there from the very beginning. Curious to know what the top floor with the round windows was like. Also curious if they had any water supply issues. Good capture.
Are you serious
They sure don't seem to be in any hurry
A huge contrast exists between Dutch, Swedish and American firefighters. I'll say no more. Very sad and highly poignant to me - this noble home was built five years before my late grandmother was born in the Bay of Islands (NZ) in 1876. It brings home with a jolt, the truism that nothing lasts forever.
just curious about the contrast between American, Dutch, Swed FFs? Thanks
the Dutch would let it burn, then send in a robot.
@@littlecncshop No Bueno...guess it works for them...lol
The Dutch would have this fire under control in half the time with half the staff. Without breaking any windows.
@@leonnehaaijman4709 no ventilation huh? Sounds like an amazing idea. The building was lost, and you're more concerned with saving the windows, instead of venting the heat. Makes perfect sense.
At 9.00 minute mark it made me wonder if they want this place to burn down
Beautiful house.😔😇
Yes, I can see it is the old Dr Allen's house in Linwood. Truly a shame, was a landmark in Linwood. Did some hunting in the woods behind the house back in the day.
Hey Brother, Nice Grab. Awesome Shots and Nice To See ya My friend, Stay Safe Dizzy.
Dizzy's on the scene!😂
Clearly no one in command knew what they were doing!
How's that?
Command? What command?
A lovely home and it's sad to see it burned...
Do they need to wait for building to burn to the ground before hitting it with water?
Yes, you absolutely do if you are in the USA! Haven't you been paying attention? You can see it in every video. 😉
The heading for this video reads that the fire consumed the house, but when the video ended it looked like the fire might have been under control. So was the house 'consumed' by the fire?
Consumed by smoke and water damage.
David Decker, paging David D......
Right!!.lol
Maybe the views are misleading but it looks like the 'ole gal could be restored, (it did not burn to the ground). What's left of the roof is the key. Could old "knob and tube" wiring be the cause of the fire? Great videography, "sparkywfd". Subscribed !
More than likely the fire was in the walls & up to the attic because the building lacked modern fire stops. Modern buildings have them. Old buildings have balloon construction. As soon as the fire gets to the attic? The building is a goner.
@@johnclyne6350 That's kind of the key here in determining if the house can be saved - how far below the attic area did actual fire damage start or go. If mainly the attic and roof, a good contracting company familiar with older home construction could rebuild the attic/mansard roof structure so that you'd never know it had burned. That would be the easiest part to fix. The smoke and water damage throughout the rest of the house would be another matter altogether. The work and cost to bring the whole house back to pre-fire condition may prove to be too prohibitive for the owners, even with insurance. Guess it will depend on how badly the owners want to restore the historic house. Will be interesting to see what happens...
I read an interesting article about knob and tube wiring awhile back. One thing you do not do if the wiring is still in service is install insulation in areas where the wires run. When this type of wiring was installed it was known to heat up some when in use and purposely run in open spaces where the heat could disperse. The knobs and tubes kept the wiring from making contact with wood structural members. These days, people sometimes start blowing insulation into these spaces to make their old house more energy efficient. Then when the wires heat up there's nowhere for the heat to go except into the surrounding insulation which creates a fire hazard.
@@shortliner68 WHOA: EXCELLENT point - you certainly know your stuff !!! Thank You for the education. Stay safe out there.
@@davidpulaski5628 LOL Oh, I don't know about knowing my stuff. I've always liked older style residential architecture and read articles/view videos of people fixing up old homes. A few of them directly dealt with knob and tube wiring and what you shouldn't do with it. Pretty interesting information.
Why don't they have water on this fire. Poor fireman experience
Look again. I counted 3 fire crews of 4 people each inside with charged lines and one crew change.
Why wait so long to put water on it?
Inept fire department. They are more concerned about getting a couple dozen donuts to eat before they can figure out that you put water on a fire to extinguish it.
Possible tanker not at house, no hydrant at house, no pumper far away at hydrant (looks house is build on mountain), someone here say that he hunting in the backyard, looks very rural place. Without a video or map around the place it is not easy to answer.
Studies have shown that putting water on a fire helps to put it out.
Expensive game of shoots and ladders. Possible different outcomes if you reversed it. Maybe more shoots from the hoses and less ladders
It’s like the Ted Mack Original Amateur Hour all over again. Two white helmets on the foreground- one pauses to fluff her pony tail while the fire burns on. Then, one crew walks thru the front door with an attack line- while another crew pounding on back door with a sledge trying to get in: ridiculous lack of coordination. They wait until the AD roof is fully involved before squirting water at it. By then, extension throughout the 3d floor signals total doom for these amateurs. Love how they run around randomly destroying windows-guaranteed lots of air to fuel the fire-no attack line coverages on the B side while they open it up. It’s enough to make a grown man gag and screech. Looks like the NYFD at any Chinese restaurant fire.
I was watching this video on my IPAD, and it was devastating to see this beautiful structure burn like it did. When the Fire Department arrived at the scene, they saw the flames were coming from the roof. I feel that they (the firefighters) should have gotten water on the structure first instead of breaking windows, that way the fire wouldn’t have had a chance to spread the way it did. I feel bad for the owners of this house, they must be devastated. This house is well constructed. I also feel too, that the firemen, as soon as they set up their hoses, should put water on the fire right away. That way the structure could be saved. I’m hoping this house could be restored.
Horrible Job by the firefighters. These firefighters are not well trained.
Old house, varnished wood all through, open attic, hard to impossible to control.
Sad what a beautiful house
Sad to see history destroyed
No wonder it burnt up took forever to get water on it. They need some more training
I wonder if this home could be saved if they didn't wait 3 hours to put water on the fire?
Nope. The fire may have been burning for hours before the 911 call was made. It started on the staircase. No one was home and it was reported by someone who was walking by. I imagine the entire interior was gutted before the first call was made. I counted 3 fire departments that were fighting the fire inside the house before the flames reached the outer walls Ultimately 15 towns sent crews to help. I saw two crew changes of those who were inside. Everyone inside has to be rotated out when their air is running low. Typically interior temperatures reach 1,000 F which also limits the amount of time that firefighters can stay inside. Glad they didn't wait for the fire to burn through all the rooms, walls and ceilings before they began pouring water on the fire.
God forbid they would use the ladder truck to apply water to the top floor after breaking open the windows
What caused the fire?
were they trying to burn it down?
17:23 the water pouring out the door.
House was damaged by fire, destroyed by water.
Can someone explain to me why it takes so long to get water on the fire. As I’m not a firefighter so I’m asking out of curiosity?
From the very start of of the video there are multiple charged lines visible laid into the house
So clearly they were working on the inside
at 12:45 you can see the water spraying out the window by one of the 3 fire crews who were fighting the fire from inside the home.
What a tragedy to befall the owners of the property. It certainly looks like a heritage building in the area. Foul play must not be ruled out until determined otherwise.
tough fires to fight!.. p[laster and lath makes blow torches out of wall cavities!! ceilings are tough to bring down.. hard to figt from the inside at best!
I have a question about the ladder on the laddertruck. Why doesn't it has a basket on it? Is it any pros not to have a basket? I have seen US firefighting trucks both with a basket and without.
Don`t think i ever seen a laddertruck without a basket here in Sweden. I can see a lot of benefits with a basket. Like if you need to get people dow that can`t walk down by them selves. People that are old, disabled or have passed out and. Also seams a lot safer for the firefighter that you don`t fall off of it. Also with a basket the firefighters can move the ladder/basket themselves.
Explain to me =)
Not a lot of water flowing on that fire.
Come on guys.... If we can't destroy the house by fire, we'll destroy it with water!
Bingo!
Beautiful house. So sad.
Warum wurden nicht noch mehrere Drehleiter eingesetzt?
Dummheit. Die wissen nicht, wass zie machen. Die hatten keine ahnung.
Love to be the insurance carrier for this claim I would deny the claim make the fire departments pay for it! This fire could have been mitigated had a better fire department shown up!
Says the one who clearly has no idea what he's even looking at
That would be the insurance company who issued a policy to the painting contractor whose oily rags left on the stairs together with cans of varnish combusted. Had he cleaned up and taken the rags to be disposed properly this house would still be standing. Too bad he wasn't knowledgeable about the heat generated by varnish drying on rags. This is one of many oily rag fires in the area that year one of which led to the loss of someone's life.
Near the Draper Mill?
This was a really bad effort! No one can be happy with this. So sad in an old beautiful house!
Why is there this ,what to me is a strange thing, breaking out windows, roofs etc, surely this just gives fuel to the fire. A job I could never do so no criticism of the men and women firefighters
Was this a total loss?
Ok at the 45 second mark you see a firefighter wearing a hooded sweat shirt under his turnout coat with the hood sticking out trying to put his nomex hood on. Having the hood of the sweat shirt sticking out not safe.
Where did the fire start and what was the cause?
Probably old electrical wiring
Staircase and by oily rags left in a box on the stairs for the weekend.
So sad to see…hope there weren’t any injuries to anyone working the fire or possibly residents.
No one was home and it was reported by someone passing by.
Is oxygen still a fuel in a fire ?
That wasn’t near 4-alarm at best 2-alarm.
Look on the bright side, they have never lost a foundation. Kind of reminds me of a monkey and a bowling ball. Glad to see the ladder salesman has set up his displays all around the house.
Sure are a lot of keyboard firefighters out there who don’t see all the lines going in the doors. This was an interior attack.
This makes you a keyboard FF too!
Guessing these were 100% volunteers.
Is this Dr Allen's house?
Was
tell me again why don't they go in?
Because they were already inside when the camera man showed up.
Looks like they just came to watch it burn… no water on the roof until it was in full flames
No water on the roof because the water was being applied to the interior which is where the fire was.
Great video 👏 you even caught the 🌈 sad to see an old house destroyed in that way ✌
Right tool for right job was missed. A hydrocortisone cold cut unit. But a great video nevertheless
So let’s vent the structure by smashing out upper level windows and promoting fire growth and don’t even make a concurrent interior attack? No sense of urgency. Sad to see.
They WERE making a concurrent interior attack. When instructing the FF on the ladder to take the windows, the IC could clearly be heard "we've got crews inside."
The saying, "Too many Chiefs and not enough Indians" definitely applies here.
Fire up the deck guns boys
At least the deck guns put some serious water on the blaze. Look at all the ladders with no hose going up. A good training film on how not to fight a fire in an old house with hundred-year dry wood. What do you suppose the moisture content of that wood was - 8%? Gotta get water on the wood, soak it, or bye-bye house.
That sucks. Probably electrical
Nope. It was painting contractor who left combustible materials on the staircase for the weekend.
The Insurance Company is gonna be slot broker, now! Save the Victorian!!
Was this place a funeral home
It was a bed and breakfast and restaurant back in the day but most recently it was a private residence.
Is north bridge fd a pd or vol co
Que inoperancia de bomberos.
50 bomberos 4 carros y se les quema entera la mansión.
Da pena ver estos videos
Great video no running around the fire ground only bad part was due to balloon construction they lost the house before they got there
17:11 already taking litigation… How sad at so many levels!!!
talking and talking and no water on the fire !
Yikes...
Lack of hustle. Remind me not to live in Northbridge, MA.
Taking their time as though fire will wait on them.
Not your best effort was it?
. About slow response. No water immediately you get water going not standing around discussing how to fight it. Even a garden hose helps. The 2 woman on the Douglas fire department is a joke. There not strong enough for this. But forced hiring has its risks.
I am very sorry but do you forget one thing. In the U.S.A. they put water supply hydrant at every places but mostly not near places with high fire hazards. So the water way is possible too long, need extra pump supplies and so on..
A second problem is that every fire car, fire apparatus, ladder, squat, battalion chief arrive "up to you". In Europe we use a red train, so that ladder first arrived, then pumper/tanker 1/2, then chief, then ambulance. So they stay correct from first if the emercency centre have all correct information.
Our European fire fighter know to cut power, cut gas, aso. and supply fast water hoses with team work, ready-to-work fire fighter (they put all on *before* arrived at scene) and hard structure. Seat place mean what-they-must-do.
In the free U.S.A. is all more free. So no homeowner with a hundred years old house not need water supply hydrant on own place - specially in more rural places. Someone talk he go hunting in backyard of this house before - looks for me it is staying very rural in opposite to a house in Chicago. Emercency teams of inside teams are fully equipped but first team change clothes near fire place. They use heavy saw for wood roof but not for doors or window side doors. They put fresh air inside very fast but wonder if the fire then so fast heavy specially if it old dry wood.
The only response that was slow was the camera crew who did not arrive until the fire fighting was well under way.
@@OldLordSpeedy 15 fire stations responded to this fire. They are all different distances from the fire and have different travel times. In this country it isn't practical to organize the apparatus response as you suggest.
@@evanstauffer4470 Exactly what I wrote ... "arrived up to you" - never all together as"red train" same in Europe. Of course all places have own stations here too.
Y'all need a ladder truck
Great old place, it looks so haunted!!
Les flammes sortent des fenêtres et même pas une lances sur le feu 🥴🥴
Where r occupants. R there pets?
Occupants were out of town while the interior was being varnished by a contractor. A police officer broke a window and rescued the dog before the first of 15 fire departments arrived.
Big show big show......