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Well I don't know if I'll say this correctly, I hope to convey the right idea. That is, in my opinion, the blueprint of how to persuade people to follow your lead on a course you wish to pursue (john adams presentation). When it your turn, if fortunate to be second to present to statement ir case, pay respect to your opponent/oppononent opinion respectfully with in the conversation/case presentation. Then proceed to present yours calmly and passionately. It might surprise you how well it works or the success rate you will have in most debatable conversations. I use this tactic when presenting my case for a course of action in life. Comfortably I can say it works a majority of the time, not always though. Most is in the presentation and how passionately you feel about the subject.
@@827stormin Your, rather long-winded, comment is correct. And in an earlier episode (or earlier in the episode, can't remember) he had a much harsher tone towards Dickinson.
He did that in response to a personal dressing down by Franklin -- the master diplomat -- for his original belligerence to Dickinson (including a personal slander regarding his Quaker beliefs). While Adams often let his emotions and fervor get the better of him, Franklin proved to be a valuable mentor in tempering those impulses.
And as per his Presidency: George Washington is a VERY tough act to follow.Adams should be given all credit for keeping the government in tact and functioning as it was hoped to continue.
His term was fraught with difficulty. He was a New England Puritan, hard to compromise with, a bit self-conscious being surrounded by other men of great stature. The threat of war with France divided the nation and his cabinet, he signed the alien/sedition act... so, a fine man w/o whom 1776 might've been less successful, but a less effective chief executive. But, he kept it together, and passed the baton.
Some say that his greatest legacy was the successful transition of power, both in his receiving it from Washington, as well as his handing it to Jefferson. Granted, the former may have been more….uneventful than the latter, but still, it’s a worthy legacy to leave behind.
@@abehambino That precedent is the only thing keeping true tyranny at bay. That is why one side casting doubt on the legitimacy of elections is so dangerous. It invites the disintegration of the very fabric of what it means to be an American. We disagree with each other vehemently at times, but ultimately we let the people* decide, not one man. *subject to some conditions pre-1870/1920
This speech made me cry and reminded me of a time when our representatives actually had skin in the game. Imagine how different policies would be if they immediately applied to our representatives too.
They have skin in the game today. They buy stocks ahead of votes rhey know will increase their profits and donors profits. These rich white dudes are doing much the same thing. England threatened their profits
Hence the con-job that is patriotism, and the tribulations of emotion: 'I know that I shall meet my fate, Somewhere among the clouds above; Those that I fight I do not hate, Those that I guard I do not love; My country is Kiltartan Cross, My countrymen Kiltartan’s poor, No likely end could bring them loss Or leave them happier than before. Nor law, nor duty bade me fight, NOR PUBLIC MEN, OR CHEERING CROWD A lonely impulse of delight Drove to this tumult in the clouds;' W B Yeats.
@@davidrendall7195because propaganda exists does that make patriotism morally corrupt? is having pride in your country equating yourself to a willing slave? the truth is, it is not the act, but the motive and the result that matters.
@ Which is why we should take a page from John Adams book, as other presidents did after him, and deport them to another country, or we start arresting people for sedition and treason. Personally I prefer the later. Especially if they go to prison.
@ You're right. I agree that many of them are either cowards or someone has found leverage over them to force them to comply. In the later case, they should simply leave office but they want to keep their power or they are told to stay. But in either case, they will either be voted out for someone else with guts or a new party will rise to take its place. The old line of democrats is abandoning the radical left liberal scummy mob in droves. Between that and the stupid ass nonsense that we are currently going through I think change is coming, and not the Islamic Obama driven BLM kind.
@@spasjt and you show exactly how you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. We are enduring the ALL-TIME sack of shit LIAR, that is presently staining the White House and you bring up Islamic shit about Obama? Well, you're either a fucking spineless racist or just incredibly stupid, which one is it, boy?
My definition of a nation is a group of people with the similar values, that help and protect each other when needed...like a big village if you will...right now we have two very different sets of values fighting for power in our countries, global communists, and conservatives, those trying to protect rights and freedoms, customs and values...the globalists call themselves progressives, but they are actually destroying the fabric of our society....there is nothing progressive about them...a nation is a lot bigger than a family, or a village, but it is the same thing...same concept...
Go to CSPAN and watch a taped interview/discussion between former ABC anchorman Charles Gibson and David McCullough about Adams, JFK and comparisons with our present WH occupant. The date is May 25th. It lasts an hour and a half, but if you're not shedding some tears during the show at one time or another, see an eye doc to get your tear ducts fixed and then a heart surgeon and thank God for the early labors and example of Benjamin Rush.
The best part in that scene is when Adams is done speaking, and you see the others' eyes. You see that they now FULLY realize what is at stake; what IT actually stands for; and, just HOW significant their decision is. A moment not just for themselves, but for humanity as a whole. Stunning speech, cadence, emphasis, and earnestness.
The acting is superb. And I’ve tried to act out scenes like that one with friends, which is much harder than Paul Giamatti makes it look. Delivering those lines in just the right way is like a great gymnast at the Olympics getting every move right.
@@stephennicholas1590Giamatti is one of our greatest actors. I've never seen him in anything without being completely convinced of the character he played.
@@davidmoser3535 And they BOTH received an Emmy for their portrayals. In 2008, he received his for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Miniseries or Movie, while she received hers for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Miniseries or Movie. And BOTH were extremely well deserved!!! I have rarely seen better performances.
The peak of his career. Kind of a niche actor. His talents are better suited for a Broadway type production, which is what this series is, and why it is such an intimate dive into the founding fathers.
I have the book 'John Adams' in front of me, reading it for the fourth time. During these parts of the debate it is made clear that there was no transcript made or notes kept, only Adams' and the others recollections. But when he answered the Pennsylvanian's objections a storm did rise up outside, and according to everyone there (including Jefferson) Adams' logic and optimism carried the day. He was "the Atlas of the hour" said the New Jersey delegate. The filmmakers did a great job filling in what he might have said.
I can't comment on the historical accuracy of this speech as it was never a staple in our common history lessons,. But let me say this, if it is even close to being accurate, the fact that this man is not at least on Mt. Rushmore or is not on a major piece of currency is a travesty.
Pres. Adams's legacy was hurt because of his rocky Presidency and the fact that people viewed him as an elitist, which couldn't be further from the truth, as Adams was 100% self-made, opposed slavery and wanted to give women the right to vote.
Actually, he was a good President. He strengthen the US Navy when it was at a vulnerability and avoided a disastrous war with France when everyone was calling for it. I know you'll look at the Alien and Sedition Acts, but no-one was ever deported from those laws and newspapers at the time were out of control and needed a little control.
I watch the RNC and DNC conventions this month and then I watch this. I weep seeing where we began and where we are now. May God provide this country again with men and women like those who began it.
Trump is a demagogue, that would abjectly rejected by the founding fathers, considering they saw fit to create the Electoral College solely to prevent people like him from obtaining power.
The Electoral College is but one check and balance. Do not forget, we also have Congressional and Judicial Branches as well. Meaning, even if an action is backed by both the Executive and Congressional branches, the Judicial can still shoot it down on the basis of not being legal. To quote President Trump, "I cannot believe I have to go to court to protect this country!" This exclamation is a clear sign that our system of government works! As president, every step of the way has to go through court. I would rather my elected officials be constrained to do nothing, than make a grave mistake. Remember, Congress: Makes laws. President: Pass/Veto laws. Judicial: Determines laws legality. The system is genius in it's simplicity.
I think that many Americans do. The problem is that these are principles he is speaking about, and keeping principles in sight all the time is so difficult, and only gets more and more difficult as more distractions and sensationalism take up our view and attention. Even the Founding Fathers lost sight of their principles at one point or another due to being distracted or blinded by other things. But there is no doubt that they certainly knew how to keep their principles in focus more than normal folks.
Agreed.Have you read 'John Adams' by McCullough? Adams was a remarkable, driven, caring, funny, and patriotic man. While in Paris, he was with, at any given time, John Quincy, Charles, Abigail, and Nabby. The series makes it seem like he was gone for 16 years and didn't give a crap about his family. But most of them were with him for the entire time in Europe.His contributions in America and while in Europe are just astounding.
If this moment happened exactly as portrayed, it would have been one of the greatest moments/speeches in human history. When you listen to his words, you realize just HOW special the creation of the US actually was.
It's too bad that those in "power" today cannot speak with such eloquents. There are only a few that I have heard in my time on this Earth that have moved me with their words. Powerful, passionate and on point.
This video inspires me too. And I am german. The American war for indepedence is just an unbelievable hallmark in history that truly inspiring for all democratic thinking people in the world. The moment that catched me the most was the scene of Washington's inauguration. This great man being so humble, what an unbelievable cinematic reenactment.
Edit: To think your country was so close to influencing ours particularly in that moment in history. The German immigration can't be understated, and how the German language would have been dominant in the world to this day.
John Adams is so underrated. He is every bit as significant as George Washington and Thomas Jefferson both in The Revolution and forming what the country would become. Thankful for this series and the excellent biography on which it is based for him to get his due.
@@jyu467 Mediocre? He refused to side with one or the other of England and France and did everything he could to keep the nation neutral in its infancy to prevent the nation dying before it really started. He did many great things even as a president and should be remembered as such.
President Adams is a man much maligned throughout our history. But we fail to see and understand him. He was one of the greatest defenders of our liberty. And his reputation deserves to be restored with all the honors he was robbed for centuries. He is man I hold in deep reverence. And aside from James Wilson (a man of my hometown), the one Founding Father I hold dearest. Read what he wrote. Read his letters with his beloved Abigail. You will see a man of extraordinary character and principles. And even if you disagree…and in places I certainly do…you will see a man worth living up to.
He doesnt believe in Jesus even as a man of God which I personally find problematic for the saftey of his soul in the after life, but yes, his legacy is something I greatly support, enough to wish that America's DOI words were "Life, Liberty, and Principle" rather than "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness". Happiness has become more open to interpretation over the years, but principle is not hard to figure out. Adams understood that.
OMG just watched this scene for first time. What struck me - is that we all, each and every one of us, go about our little lives - as a direct result of these men's courage.
I know because this is an HBO video it will be taken out of TH-cam soon. However, every US civilian should watch this video. It truly shows what patriotism is all about. Left or Right wing, all Americans should value the contributions of this man.
@@theofficialphoenixtv5765 The US is still in no danger of becoming a police state. A police state would have sent the police in with military gear and squashed these protests brutally on day one, making no distinction between rioting, looting and peaceful protest. A police state would have also broken out lethal responses by day 3 at the latest We've seen what a police state is pretty recently in Venezuela. The US is very much not on that level. Don't let your emotions get the better of you.
As I weep for my country, I stand ready to let my blood be spilled for the sake and restoration of a free Republic. Beautifully played with passion and grace and CONVICTION of the this most noble and true patriot, John Adams. Come find me if you disagree.
It's already free. Any issue you have are the things you need to deal with or faulty people elected or democratic flaws. That's up to you to change, they changed, what did you do?
and we are here again.. to remind ourselves of what we are so entrusted to hold..God save our American states.. and God bless those who made it possible. May we be worthy to hold her..
Giamatti was the perfect actor for Adams. Props to him. John Adams is an underrated founding father of the USA. Massachusetts and Virginia were the two colonies most at the forefront of Independence and Revolution. Some of the other colonies were ambivalent about it.
ps. Thank you for commenting. seriously. you're having a healthy and educated debate among strangers where you're not bringing your personal feelings into the discussion. I always respect people who can do that.
This scene is so beautiful it always brings a tear to my eye. It was never done before. Asystem of government without a monarchy? Unheard of until these genius man got together and put common sense unto pen and paper.
That is not true at all... They even say otherwise in the show itself, when the Dutch representatives tell Adams that they were a republic long before the US were even an idea. There were many non monarchies throughout history.
@@GreeneyedApe You are correct sir….But what you are missing is the fact that we are a representative republic and the Dutch were not. Here endith the lesson.
@@WiseGuy5674 Ok... that's a different point but there were representative republics before too... Look I have great respect for the founding fathers in their time and place but their ideas were by no means singular in the annals of history...
@@GreeneyedApe I believe you’re wrong. I believe you are not looking at the bigger picture. At the time 13 colonies where in fact 13 states who and where anywhere else in the world would be 13 countries (I know..redundant) Those 13 countries turned into 50 countries all governed by a representative republic. It’s never happened before in the history of the world. Prove me wrong.
@@WiseGuy5674 You keep changing what you're saying. You first said a government without a monarchy was unheard of. Then you said a representative republic. Now you are basically saying that specifically creating the United States never happened before. No shit, Sherlock, but that's not the point you made before.
A stirring speech. Eloquent and to the point, it represents the fundamental idea around which our "Great Republican Experiment" is built upon. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal...", "...That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..." It's been 239 years - nearly to the day, at the time of this post - since the Declaration of Independence was adopted by the Continental Congress announcing to the world that the thirteen colonies had become sovereign states, and would never again be a part of the British Empire. An awe inspiring act, in my humble opinion, to challenge the most powerful nation on the planet and knowing full well that King George III would certainly view it as an act of treason against the crown. That it succeeded at all - albeit, not without the aid of France - is all the more astonishing. Yet each day, I read my country's national news with a growing sense of worry and, in some cases, naked disgust. We appear to care more about what the Kardashians are posting on social media or standing in line for the feeding trough at the local fast food garbage dump than spending our energies solidifying our own collective welfare. As a nation, we are more bitterly divided now than in the whole of our history. Gay marriage, public shootings, abortion, racism, police and government corruption.....the list is almost mournfully endless. As another Independence Day draws near, I find myself going back over some of the books I own, not only on the likes of John Adams or Thomas Jefferson, but also on the impartial and uncomplicated cornerstone of the founding of these United States: "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness." In the face of such an honestly noble philosophy, I can't help but be forced to overlay it with the social and economic upheaval in which we are currently mired. In each instance, I'm plagued by a vexing and utterly shameful question: How did we let it come to this?
I would say that "We, the People..." has transformed - no, DEGENERATED - into "ME, the INDIVIDUAL". There is no longer any concern for "WE". It's now exclusively about what "I" want, and damn what everyone else thinks. Well, that or, "I don't care if I don't get what I want, as long as the 'other side' doesn't either." There is, in my opinion, no greater of an unadulterated example of this than the most recent presidential election. The Republican and Democratic parties have, whether they choose to admit it or not, unwillingly collaborated to make an outright MOCKERY of our political ideology. The very idea that the fate of the country is somehow SECOND to the absurd idea of beating the "other side" is beyond incomprehensible. It's like gloating about being the last man standing after a nuclear holocaust.
I would like to chip into this discussion as well. One thing I truly believe is that the lack of morality comes from the fact that our education system doesn't stress the importance and significance of our country. Young people today do not feel the need to explore what makes our country good but instead what makes it "bad." To make matters worse, our education system and the mainstream media will intentionally create reinforce that thinking. Its pathetic and sad as someone who's family fled a war torn country of Vietnam.
Gentlemen we are living in the last days of Rome. The best thing to do is to prepare for what's coming. The one thing I learned in history is that thier is nothing new under the sun.
Michael Zero I agree. As the old saying goes, "Past is prologue". I can indeed see the similarities between ancient Rome and these once "United States". And, like Rome, they're splintering under the weight of their own bloated decadence. I admit that I fully expect us to implode sometime in the next 20 years. Possibly much sooner than that. How bitter is the irony that this place, something that is meant to be a bastion of "freedom and equality", and to DEFEND mankind from the tyrannies and persecutions of those that would take it away, ended up being the thing that killed us. Maybe, in whatever follows after the dust settles, our species will have finally learned how to do it right. If there's anything left worth building on, that is.
As a born & bred Quincy lad I couldn't be any prouder to boast & claim a type of kinship with the legendary intellect who delivered such a brilliant, moving, inspirational, powerfully poignant & truly patriotic speech as depicted above, the one man who prevailed upon his colleagues more than any other during that moment of crucial debate, of looming crisis, of lingering doubts & misgivings, of justified fear, & of grave uncertainty, that moment of extremely pivotal, amazingly seismic & seminal importance, as that moment, undoubtedly & deservedly, belonged to John Adams, the one & only & arguably the premier, most indefatigable driving force behind that historic & colossal breakaway, America's move towards unconditional & unequivocal independence. That was his moment to shine & shine he most certainly did, & in a manner that proved as decisive & convincing as it was heartfelt, honest, dazzlingly compelling & steeped in the sheer urgency of the moment, as pivotal, momentous & transcendent as any in US History, & Adams rose to the occasion & came through with flying colors, mesmerizing, rousing & inspired as his speech was, fueled by the passionate belief that the mighty cause for which he so strenuously strove & advocated for was right & just, noble & imperative, unavoidable & inevitable, as guided by the lofty dictates of divine wisdom as much as it was this Earthly necessity. Adams delivered magnificently. I'm very, very proud to call him a fellow Quincy lad. May his words ring forth & true forevermore!
This is possibly my favorite part of this series.Giamatti is an actor that most have seen, but don't know. He is brilliant in this role.As per the series,the producers + directors took way too much liberty in creating a 'good story.' It was based on David McCullough's biography "John Adams," that I have read 8 times.The movie,save for parts 1+2,is just historically inaccurate,and paints Adams as some seething,angry 'rode-rage' type of person. The history is dramatic enough.Don't embellish it.
I am just finishing that remarkable biography for the first time. McCullough brings the people and the times to life in such a brilliant manner. He brought the era to life with such clarity.
Bravo. The very essence of a Child of God. The light shinith and embraces the hearts of Free Man and Woman, child and all. Willing to put their faith in the Light of God. At a time, at a place, at a moment; you’re true desires shinith which embraces the foundation of this country, This nation, This republic of Free Men, Women, child and all for the Freedom of All. Amen This is the total embodiment of All Citizens of this Republic and what our Forefathers stood for as individuals and as a collection. My good Sir, John Adams you earned your Roses. God Bless You and God Bless America.
May the Good Lord grace us with the love and courage that inhabited these rebels once again! It's 2020, and I'm watching this with tears in my eyes. How about you? 🇵🇷🇺🇸😪
Other than band of brothers this is no doubt one of the finest shows ever made and should be a mandatory part of U.S history class in both high school and college
This looks like a great series. I've only seen the You Tube snippets. As awe inspiring as this is, I did find it ironic that John Adams and the Federalist party became rather dictator like when they were in power. Power does have the ability to taint your judgement no matter how high of ideas you start with.
"The constitution was ordained and established by the People of the United States for themselves; for their own government; and not for the government of individual states. Each state established a constitution for itself, and in that constitution, provided such limitations and restrictions on the powers of its particular government as its judgment dictated. The People of the United States framed such a government for the United States as they supposed best adapted to their situation, and best calculated to promote their interests; the powers they conferred on this government were to be exercised by itself; and the limitations on power, if expressed in general terms, are naturally and necessarily applicable to the government created by the instrument; they are limitations of power granted in the instrument itself; not of distinct governments framed by different persons and for different purposes." - U.S.,1833 Barron v. City of Baltimore 32 U.S. 243, 7 Pet. 243, 1833 WL 4189 (U.S.Md.), 8 L.Ed. 672
I’m here now watching for what this country was founded on! Not all of this odious nonsense that’s going on now! America, will always be a free country, and to whom ever wants to try to take what is our rights! You’re going to have a rude awakening! Guaranteed! 🇺🇸1st! Always and Forever!
While we live, let us all have a country, a free country where we truly vote our government of our liking, without corruption, a government without greed, a government that hears and truly listens to its countrymen, to instill that government with all that we deem right and then let freedoms bells ring, because without this, we are nothing but the governments subjects, as the king of England was to our forefathers. "We the People" have lost our power, lost our way! We must go back to the beginning, and start again or else all is lost.😢
3 of my ancestors fought in the revolution and 1 died in the continental army near valley forge. There are graves of unknown American soldiers at valley forge. It occurred to me that one could be my 5x great grandfather! When you read what happened to the signers of the declaration you realize how dearly bought is our liberty.
My head would be swimming with patriotic fervor if I'd heard that speech in person.
Mine is
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like right now?
I'd be running out the fucking door yelling, "fuck those redcoats"! Man what a good speech can do to the human spirit.
"...twas the first recorded exclamation of LETS DO THIS !!"
I love how Adams pays respect to Dickinson, even though he disagrees with his outlook.
When these debates first started, he called him out for his *QUAKER SENSIBILITIES!*
Well I don't know if I'll say this correctly, I hope to convey the right idea.
That is, in my opinion, the blueprint of how to persuade people to follow your lead on a course you wish to pursue (john adams presentation). When it your turn, if fortunate to be second to present to statement ir case, pay respect to your opponent/oppononent opinion respectfully with in the conversation/case presentation.
Then proceed to present yours calmly and passionately. It might surprise you how well it works or the success rate you will have in most debatable conversations.
I use this tactic when presenting my case for a course of action in life. Comfortably I can say it works a majority of the time, not always though. Most is in the presentation and how passionately you feel about the subject.
@@827stormin Your, rather long-winded, comment is correct. And in an earlier episode (or earlier in the episode, can't remember) he had a much harsher tone towards Dickinson.
He did that in response to a personal dressing down by Franklin -- the master diplomat -- for his original belligerence to Dickinson (including a personal slander regarding his Quaker beliefs). While Adams often let his emotions and fervor get the better of him, Franklin proved to be a valuable mentor in tempering those impulses.
@@827stormin Reading your comment helped cure my insomnia
And as per his Presidency: George Washington is a VERY tough act to follow.Adams should be given all credit for keeping the government in tact and functioning as it was hoped to continue.
His term was fraught with difficulty. He was a New England Puritan, hard to compromise with, a bit self-conscious being surrounded by other men of great stature. The threat of war with France divided the nation and his cabinet, he signed the alien/sedition act... so, a fine man w/o whom 1776 might've been less successful, but a less effective chief executive. But, he kept it together, and passed the baton.
Some say that his greatest legacy was the successful transition of power, both in his receiving it from Washington, as well as his handing it to Jefferson. Granted, the former may have been more….uneventful than the latter, but still, it’s a worthy legacy to leave behind.
@@abehambino That precedent is the only thing keeping true tyranny at bay. That is why one side casting doubt on the legitimacy of elections is so dangerous. It invites the disintegration of the very fabric of what it means to be an American. We disagree with each other vehemently at times, but ultimately we let the people* decide, not one man.
*subject to some conditions pre-1870/1920
@@uscdave1124true, but you can’t deny that 2020 was full of frauds in favor of Biden
@@uscdave1124well said.
May our country be saved from those that would attempt to end the sacred tradition of the peaceful transfer of power
This speech made me cry and reminded me of a time when our representatives actually had skin in the game. Imagine how different policies would be if they immediately applied to our representatives too.
They have skin in the game today. They buy stocks ahead of votes rhey know will increase their profits and donors profits.
These rich white dudes are doing much the same thing. England threatened their profits
Unfortunately representatives in our lifetime have never had the general population’s best interest in mind.
@Ross Pittman they didnt back then either. These were all self interested men
@@philswaim392 is that so? Lol
You are advocating for senators and congressmen leading the military in the frontline. I think this should be tried.
I'm not even American but I would die on a hill for this man after that speech.
Hence the con-job that is patriotism, and the tribulations of emotion:
'I know that I shall meet my fate,
Somewhere among the clouds above;
Those that I fight I do not hate,
Those that I guard I do not love;
My country is Kiltartan Cross,
My countrymen Kiltartan’s poor,
No likely end could bring them loss
Or leave them happier than before.
Nor law, nor duty bade me fight,
NOR PUBLIC MEN, OR CHEERING CROWD
A lonely impulse of delight
Drove to this tumult in the clouds;'
W B Yeats.
@@davidrendall7195because propaganda exists does that make patriotism morally corrupt? is having pride in your country equating yourself to a willing slave? the truth is, it is not the act, but the motive and the result that matters.
Come with us.
Well we’re always looking for new patriots bro. Join us
@@TalibanHatesme13 Believe me, I'm considering it.
A Republic of laws, not men."
@ Oh it is still going. There are those who seek to bring it down but every generation faces that challenge.
@@spasjt You can't survive when only one party cares about the rule of law.
@ Which is why we should take a page from John Adams book, as other presidents did after him, and deport them to another country, or we start arresting people for sedition and treason. Personally I prefer the later. Especially if they go to prison.
@ You're right. I agree that many of them are either cowards or someone has found leverage over them to force them to comply. In the later case, they should simply leave office but they want to keep their power or they are told to stay. But in either case, they will either be voted out for someone else with guts or a new party will rise to take its place. The old line of democrats is abandoning the radical left liberal scummy mob in droves. Between that and the stupid ass nonsense that we are currently going through I think change is coming, and not the Islamic Obama driven BLM kind.
@@spasjt and you show exactly how you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. We are enduring the ALL-TIME sack of shit LIAR, that is presently staining the White House and you bring up Islamic shit about Obama? Well, you're either a fucking spineless racist or just incredibly stupid, which one is it, boy?
I love this series and watch it every 4th of July. What a shame most today don't even know how this great nation came to be.
stephanie ruff I AGREE !!!!!
+The505Guys Troll some where else.
+stephanie ruff Indeed.
My definition of a nation is a group of people with the similar values, that help and protect each other when needed...like a big village if you will...right now we have two very different sets of values fighting for power in our countries, global communists, and conservatives, those trying to protect rights and freedoms, customs and values...the globalists call themselves progressives, but they are actually destroying the fabric of our society....there is nothing progressive about them...a nation is a lot bigger than a family, or a village, but it is the same thing...same concept...
Go to CSPAN and watch a taped interview/discussion between former ABC anchorman Charles Gibson and David McCullough about Adams, JFK and comparisons with our present WH occupant. The date is May 25th. It lasts an hour and a half, but if you're not shedding some tears during the show at one time or another, see an eye doc to get your tear ducts fixed and then a heart surgeon and thank God for the early labors and example of Benjamin Rush.
While I yet live, let me have a country. A free country.
He stepped inside my heart & made me fly.
and this is why the evil socialist EU must fall too
*FREE
The best part in that scene is when Adams is done speaking, and you see the others' eyes.
You see that they now FULLY realize what is at stake; what IT actually stands for; and, just HOW significant their decision is. A moment not just for themselves, but for humanity as a whole.
Stunning speech, cadence, emphasis, and earnestness.
The acting is superb. And I’ve tried to act out scenes like that one with friends, which is much harder than Paul Giamatti makes it look. Delivering those lines in just the right way is like a great gymnast at the Olympics getting every move right.
@@stephennicholas1590Giamatti is one of our greatest actors. I've never seen him in anything without being completely convinced of the character he played.
This was a special group of men assembled the likes we may never see again
No..that’s the wonderful thing, they weren’t special, they were just men. Men who built a new nation, imperfect, but dedicated to its betterment.
Not in our lifetime
@Paul - how were they greedy? How is putting your life on the line with the strongest military on Earth greedy?
@Paul And You are a turd.
Agree. Look at how many nations exist and yet never seem to be able to form a group of men like these to make a good nation. We are very lucky.
God paul giamatti did a magnificent job in this series!
Yes, and Laura Linney was great.
@@davidmoser3535 And they BOTH received an Emmy for their portrayals. In 2008, he received his for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Miniseries or Movie, while she received hers for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Miniseries or Movie.
And BOTH were extremely well deserved!!! I have rarely seen better performances.
The entire casting in this series was fantastic! I've watched it several times and it never gets old.
The peak of his career. Kind of a niche actor. His talents are better suited for a Broadway type production, which is what this series is, and why it is such an intimate dive into the founding fathers.
Adams deserves a monument on the National Mall.
Ah, let's not make Adams the target of the ignorant masses blustering for a fight.
@@whattowatchrightnow so cower to them instead? live free or die. not just words
I would rather see an aircraft carrier named for him, after all he did to build up the US Navy.
I have the book 'John Adams' in front of me, reading it for the fourth time. During these parts of the debate it is made clear that there was no transcript made or notes kept, only Adams' and the others recollections. But when he answered the Pennsylvanian's objections a storm did rise up outside, and according to everyone there (including Jefferson) Adams' logic and optimism carried the day. He was "the Atlas of the hour" said the New Jersey delegate. The filmmakers did a great job filling in what he might have said.
I can't comment on the historical accuracy of this speech as it was never a staple in our common history lessons,. But let me say this, if it is even close to being accurate, the fact that this man is not at least on Mt. Rushmore or is not on a major piece of currency is a travesty.
Jim M Most of the dialogue in the episode is taken from the actual transcripts of the Continental Congress. John Adams actually said these words.
+aubsdaddy completely agree
He's not on Mt. Rushmore because he was actually a pretty terrible president.
Pres. Adams's legacy was hurt because of his rocky Presidency and the fact that people viewed him as an elitist, which couldn't be further from the truth, as Adams was 100% self-made, opposed slavery and wanted to give women the right to vote.
Actually, he was a good President. He strengthen the US Navy when it was at a vulnerability and avoided a disastrous war with France when everyone was calling for it. I know you'll look at the Alien and Sedition Acts, but no-one was ever deported from those laws and newspapers at the time were out of control and needed a little control.
I watch the RNC and DNC conventions this month and then I watch this. I weep seeing where we began and where we are now. May God provide this country again with men and women like those who began it.
Trump is exacly that!
It would take people like us to make that happen.
The founding fathers would feel ashamed if they knew Trump was running for the position of commander in chief.
Trump is a demagogue, that would abjectly rejected by the founding fathers, considering they saw fit to create the Electoral College solely to prevent people like him from obtaining power.
The Electoral College is but one check and balance. Do not forget, we also have Congressional and Judicial Branches as well. Meaning, even if an action is backed by both the Executive and Congressional branches, the Judicial can still shoot it down on the basis of not being legal.
To quote President Trump, "I cannot believe I have to go to court to protect this country!" This exclamation is a clear sign that our system of government works! As president, every step of the way has to go through court. I would rather my elected officials be constrained to do nothing, than make a grave mistake.
Remember,
Congress: Makes laws.
President: Pass/Veto laws.
Judicial: Determines laws legality.
The system is genius in it's simplicity.
Here is a man that deserves immense respect. Above all, he valued liberty and freedom.
@Wise and Free I wish we had politicians who were like the founding fathers.
Until he blocked and limited the 1st amendment out of his damn pride
I think that many Americans do. The problem is that these are principles he is speaking about, and keeping principles in sight all the time is so difficult, and only gets more and more difficult as more distractions and sensationalism take up our view and attention. Even the Founding Fathers lost sight of their principles at one point or another due to being distracted or blinded by other things. But there is no doubt that they certainly knew how to keep their principles in focus more than normal folks.
The Alien and Sedition Acts-brings ole Adams down a peg.
@@alishabazz6717 if you know the history of it, he could not veto it, since it was a super majority vote from the Senate
Every time
I watch my heart grows with pride to be an American
My favorite show still after all these years. So well-written and acted. The actors did justice to our brightest and best Americans, ever.
Agreed.Have you read 'John Adams' by McCullough?
Adams was a remarkable, driven, caring, funny, and patriotic man.
While in Paris, he was with, at any given time, John Quincy, Charles, Abigail, and Nabby. The series makes it seem like he was gone for 16 years and didn't give a crap about his family. But most of them were with him for the entire time in Europe.His contributions in America and while in Europe are just astounding.
goddtrant one of my favorite books.
If this moment happened exactly as portrayed, it would have been one of the greatest moments/speeches in human history. When you listen to his words, you realize just HOW special the creation of the US actually was.
I loved John Adams. It was a great series and the music was fantastic. Both main actors we're fabulous
It's too bad that those in "power" today cannot speak with such eloquents. There are only a few that I have heard in my time on this Earth that have moved me with their words. Powerful, passionate and on point.
John Adams is absolutely one of the greatest Vice-Presidents & Presidents that we have ever had.
Emotionally powerful. For some reason I was moved to the core of my being. I literally shed some tears.
I'm not by all means a citizen of the United States of America, but even so I find this speech to be absolutely boss!
This speech should be heard by everyone around the world who is under the heel of another.
@@michaelsmith2924 and the democraps should see it also. They are more like despots then Americans.
Charisma and passion don't need a nationality to speak to anyone
You are as much an American as any one of us, for when my fore fathers fought for the liberty of this nation they fought for the liberty of all men.
@@nitewatchman1576 lol
This video inspires me too. And I am german. The American war for indepedence is just an unbelievable hallmark in history that truly inspiring for all democratic thinking people in the world. The moment that catched me the most was the scene of Washington's inauguration. This great man being so humble, what an unbelievable cinematic reenactment.
Edit: To think your country was so close to influencing ours particularly in that moment in history. The German immigration can't be understated, and how the German language would have been dominant in the world to this day.
“Cough” Republic
Gives me chills up and down my spine!!!
I remember in 6th grade we had to do a project on any president. At that age I knew this man was a figure of inspiration.
If ever an addition to Mt. Rushmore is due, John Adams work to forge our beginning has earned his placement among those men already there.
John Adams is so underrated.
He is every bit as significant as George Washington and Thomas Jefferson both in The Revolution and forming what the country would become.
Thankful for this series and the excellent biography on which it is based for him to get his due.
yes add Adams and James Madison then never touch it again
Great founding father, mediocre president
@@jyu467 Mediocre? He refused to side with one or the other of England and France and did everything he could to keep the nation neutral in its infancy to prevent the nation dying before it really started. He did many great things even as a president and should be remembered as such.
President Adams is a man much maligned throughout our history. But we fail to see and understand him.
He was one of the greatest defenders of our liberty. And his reputation deserves to be restored with all the honors he was robbed for centuries.
He is man I hold in deep reverence. And aside from James Wilson (a man of my hometown), the one Founding Father I hold dearest.
Read what he wrote. Read his letters with his beloved Abigail. You will see a man of extraordinary character and principles. And even if you disagree…and in places I certainly do…you will see a man worth living up to.
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield,and government to gain ground." - Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, Paris, May 27, 1788
"I would rather be in the company of men having too much freedom, than be in the company of men wanting too little of it"
Thomas Jefferson
You would prefer being arrested and cancelled by Big Brother for misgendering somebody?
That’s already happening in the West in 2024.
Paul Giamatti what a terrific actor. Just brilliant.
I have stumbled across these videos without any prior knowledge of this series. I will most definitely watch this. I love the performances.
Long-live Mr. Adams' legacy!
He doesnt believe in Jesus even as a man of God which I personally find problematic for the saftey of his soul in the after life, but yes, his legacy is something I greatly support, enough to wish that America's DOI words were "Life, Liberty, and Principle" rather than "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness". Happiness has become more open to interpretation over the years, but principle is not hard to figure out. Adams understood that.
@@PWNINSWAGMASTER That's between him and Jesus; therefore, it should not concern you.
@@winstonchurchill3597 Dude will you shut it? That's not the point of my comment.
@@PWNINSWAGMASTER I'm not your "dude".
@@winstonchurchill3597 Idc
And the others sit there listening. Patiently, respectfully listening.
One of the greatest scenes in television history
OMG just watched this scene for first time. What struck me - is that we all, each and every one of us, go about our little lives - as a direct result of these men's courage.
History is shaped by each generation. Our world is what it is today because of Adams, Elizabeth, Gustavus all the way down to Caesar and Alexander.
I wish all the "woke" crowd would watch this and learn from History.
The acting is just impeccable.
I know because this is an HBO video it will be taken out of TH-cam soon. However, every US civilian should watch this video. It truly shows what patriotism is all about. Left or Right wing, all Americans should value the contributions of this man.
This folks is why the United States is like no other.
John Adams is one of my favorite presidents. God blessed us with his intellect, his gift of oratory, and his wisdom.
While I live, let me have a republic, a free republic, not, not, not a police state.
The US is in no danger of becoming a police state.
wooh, free of great explosive violent debate, thank god.
hagamapama explain the Patriot Act and the Freedom Act
@@hagamapama I think you should reevaluate this statement now
@@theofficialphoenixtv5765 The US is still in no danger of becoming a police state. A police state would have sent the police in with military gear and squashed these protests brutally on day one, making no distinction between rioting, looting and peaceful protest. A police state would have also broken out lethal responses by day 3 at the latest
We've seen what a police state is pretty recently in Venezuela. The US is very much not on that level. Don't let your emotions get the better of you.
As I weep for my country, I stand ready to let my blood be spilled for the sake and restoration of a free Republic. Beautifully played with passion and grace and CONVICTION of the this most noble and true patriot, John Adams. Come find me if you disagree.
It's already free. Any issue you have are the things you need to deal with or faulty people elected or democratic flaws. That's up to you to change, they changed, what did you do?
God, who else gets emotional at the 'born and unborn' comment.
Makes me want to shout "amen".
Happy Independence Day my fellow Americans
and we are here again.. to remind ourselves of what we are so entrusted to hold..God save our American states.. and God bless those who made it possible. May we be worthy to hold her..
I thank God for them ..without these men ..where would we be ?
probably better off.
Speaking British
@@MuzixMaker ???
Giamatti was the perfect actor for Adams. Props to him.
John Adams is an underrated founding father of the USA. Massachusetts and Virginia were the two colonies most at the forefront of Independence and Revolution. Some of the other colonies were ambivalent about it.
The most underrated of the Founders IMO.
ps. Thank you for commenting. seriously. you're having a healthy and educated debate among strangers where you're not bringing your personal feelings into the discussion. I always respect people who can do that.
I love how wise and civilized all these men are. Very atmospheric scene.
john adams was a great man, a stubborn man, but we needed it back then AND WE NEED IT NOW......
This is the greatest historical movie ever made.
i don't often cry, but this brings me to tears.
who is here in 2021?
The past or prophesy? We seem to be at a time when those intersect. Remember John Adam's and pray for the courage God gave him.
We had a saying in the Navy "wooden ships and iron men" Now it's steel ships and plastic people. God bless the revolutionaries!
Any True American get's choked up, watching this...
I love that scene so much. Have probably watched it 25 times and could watch it another 1,000.
Giamatti's cadence is mesmerizing.
That thunderstorm's timing was brilliant.
and actually happened as John Adams was giving his speech
As I watched this a single tear fell from my eye and turned into a bald eagle.
"Independence now...Independence forever!"
This scene is so beautiful it always brings a tear to my eye. It was never done before. Asystem of government without a monarchy? Unheard of until these genius man got together and put common sense unto pen and paper.
That is not true at all... They even say otherwise in the show itself, when the Dutch representatives tell Adams that they were a republic long before the US were even an idea. There were many non monarchies throughout history.
@@GreeneyedApe You are correct sir….But what you are missing is the fact that we are a representative republic and the Dutch were not. Here endith the lesson.
@@WiseGuy5674 Ok... that's a different point but there were representative republics before too...
Look I have great respect for the founding fathers in their time and place but their ideas were by no means singular in the annals of history...
@@GreeneyedApe I believe you’re wrong. I believe you are not looking at the bigger picture. At the time 13 colonies where in fact 13 states who and where anywhere else in the world would be 13 countries (I know..redundant) Those 13 countries turned into 50 countries all governed by a representative republic. It’s never happened before in the history of the world. Prove me wrong.
@@WiseGuy5674 You keep changing what you're saying. You first said a government without a monarchy was unheard of. Then you said a representative republic. Now you are basically saying that specifically creating the United States never happened before. No shit, Sherlock, but that's not the point you made before.
A stirring speech. Eloquent and to the point, it represents the fundamental idea around which our "Great Republican Experiment" is built upon.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal...", "...That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..."
It's been 239 years - nearly to the day, at the time of this post - since the Declaration of Independence was adopted by the Continental Congress announcing to the world that the thirteen colonies had become sovereign states, and would never again be a part of the British Empire. An awe inspiring act, in my humble opinion, to challenge the most powerful nation on the planet and knowing full well that King George III would certainly view it as an act of treason against the crown. That it succeeded at all - albeit, not without the aid of France - is all the more astonishing.
Yet each day, I read my country's national news with a growing sense of worry and, in some cases, naked disgust. We appear to care more about what the Kardashians are posting on social media or standing in line for the feeding trough at the local fast food garbage dump than spending our energies solidifying our own collective welfare. As a nation, we are more bitterly divided now than in the whole of our history. Gay marriage, public shootings, abortion, racism, police and government corruption.....the list is almost mournfully endless.
As another Independence Day draws near, I find myself going back over some of the books I own, not only on the likes of John Adams or Thomas Jefferson, but also on the impartial and uncomplicated cornerstone of the founding of these United States: "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness." In the face of such an honestly noble philosophy, I can't help but be forced to overlay it with the social and economic upheaval in which we are currently mired. In each instance, I'm plagued by a vexing and utterly shameful question:
How did we let it come to this?
I would say that "We, the People..." has transformed - no, DEGENERATED - into "ME, the INDIVIDUAL". There is no longer any concern for "WE". It's now exclusively about what "I" want, and damn what everyone else thinks.
Well, that or, "I don't care if I don't get what I want, as long as the 'other side' doesn't either." There is, in my opinion, no greater of an unadulterated example of this than the most recent presidential election. The Republican and Democratic parties have, whether they choose to admit it or not, unwillingly collaborated to make an outright MOCKERY of our political ideology. The very idea that the fate of the country is somehow SECOND to the absurd idea of beating the "other side" is beyond incomprehensible. It's like gloating about being the last man standing after a nuclear holocaust.
I would like to chip into this discussion as well. One thing I truly believe is that the lack of morality comes from the fact that our education system doesn't stress the importance and significance of our country. Young people today do not feel the need to explore what makes our country good but instead what makes it "bad." To make matters worse, our education system and the mainstream media will intentionally create reinforce that thinking. Its pathetic and sad as someone who's family fled a war torn country of Vietnam.
It's very simple... power always corrupts...
Gentlemen we are living in the last days of Rome. The best thing to do is to prepare for what's coming. The one thing I learned in history is that thier is nothing new under the sun.
Michael Zero I agree. As the old saying goes, "Past is prologue".
I can indeed see the similarities between ancient Rome and these once "United States". And, like Rome, they're splintering under the weight of their own bloated decadence. I admit that I fully expect us to implode sometime in the next 20 years. Possibly much sooner than that.
How bitter is the irony that this place, something that is meant to be a bastion of "freedom and equality", and to DEFEND mankind from the tyrannies and persecutions of those that would take it away, ended up being the thing that killed us.
Maybe, in whatever follows after the dust settles, our species will have finally learned how to do it right.
If there's anything left worth building on, that is.
Every year on the 4th of July I read Adam's remarks in a letter to his wife about how our country would come to view this day. It's stirring!
The fact this show statistically goes up around July 4th and September will never not make me happy lol
As a born & bred Quincy lad I couldn't be any prouder to boast & claim a type of kinship with the legendary intellect who delivered such a brilliant, moving, inspirational, powerfully poignant & truly patriotic speech as depicted above, the one man who prevailed upon his colleagues more than any other during that moment of crucial debate, of looming crisis, of lingering doubts & misgivings, of justified fear, & of grave uncertainty, that moment of extremely pivotal, amazingly seismic & seminal importance, as that moment, undoubtedly & deservedly, belonged to John Adams, the one & only & arguably the premier, most indefatigable driving force behind that historic & colossal breakaway, America's move towards unconditional & unequivocal independence.
That was his moment to shine & shine he most certainly did, & in a manner that proved as decisive & convincing as it was heartfelt, honest, dazzlingly compelling & steeped in the sheer urgency of the moment, as pivotal, momentous & transcendent as any in US History, & Adams rose to the occasion & came through with flying colors, mesmerizing, rousing & inspired as his speech was, fueled by the passionate belief that the mighty cause for which he so strenuously strove & advocated for was right & just, noble & imperative, unavoidable & inevitable, as guided by the lofty dictates of divine wisdom as much as it was this Earthly necessity. Adams delivered magnificently. I'm very, very proud to call him a fellow Quincy lad. May his words ring forth & true forevermore!
This is possibly my favorite part of this series.Giamatti is an actor that most have seen, but don't know. He is brilliant in this role.As per the series,the producers + directors took way too much liberty in creating a 'good story.' It was based on David McCullough's biography "John Adams," that I have read 8 times.The movie,save for parts 1+2,is just historically inaccurate,and paints Adams as some seething,angry 'rode-rage' type of person.
The history is dramatic enough.Don't embellish it.
I am just finishing that remarkable biography for the first time. McCullough brings the people and the times to life in such
a brilliant manner. He brought the era to life with such clarity.
Adams was acerbic and stubborn, and made lots of enemies because he spoke his mind.
Wow, I am watching this in 2019, and this was uploaded in 2010. I don't know why I am putting this comment but oh well.
Bravo. The very essence of a Child of God. The light shinith and embraces the hearts of Free Man and Woman, child and all. Willing to put their faith in the Light of God. At a time, at a place, at a moment; you’re true desires shinith which embraces the foundation of this country, This nation, This republic of Free Men, Women, child and all for the Freedom of All. Amen This is the total embodiment of All Citizens of this Republic and what our Forefathers stood for as individuals and as a collection. My good Sir, John Adams you earned your Roses. God Bless You and God Bless America.
Well put my good man. Our republic is on dire need of men like John Adams and those those who can compose words like you
People like you give me absolute hope 🙏🦅🇺🇸
This is the most important thing HBO has done in 20 years. It should be shown in schools.
Homer Simpson: "While I live, let me have a donut.... a free donut!"
Well said by His Rotundity. A great American who saw the long game for what it could be. He had his flaws, but one of our best.
May the Good Lord grace us with the love and courage that inhabited these rebels once again! It's 2020, and I'm watching this with tears in my eyes. How about you? 🇵🇷🇺🇸😪
You can see the fire in Jefferson’s eyes
Other than band of brothers this is no doubt one of the finest shows ever made and should be a mandatory part of U.S history class in both high school and college
Amazing how history looks when you know what actually happened, isn't it?
Born and Unborn..
How our founding fathers would wonder and weep today.
Most people don't know what a republic of laws and not men, means. Thurgood Marshall certainly did.
This looks like a great series. I've only seen the You Tube snippets.
As awe inspiring as this is, I did find it ironic that John Adams and the Federalist party became rather dictator like when they were in power. Power does have the ability to taint your judgement no matter how high of ideas you start with.
Believe me it’s worth the watch. Best damn casting I’ve seen for the Revolutionary war era and beyond
"The constitution was ordained and established by the People of the United States for themselves; for their own government; and not for the government of individual states. Each state established a constitution for itself, and in that constitution, provided such limitations and restrictions on the powers of its particular government as its judgment dictated. The People of the United States framed such a government for the United States as they supposed best adapted to their situation, and best calculated to promote their interests; the powers they conferred on this government were to be exercised by itself; and the limitations on power, if expressed in general terms, are naturally and necessarily applicable to the government created by the instrument; they are limitations of power granted in the instrument itself; not of distinct governments framed by different persons and for different purposes." - U.S.,1833 Barron v. City of Baltimore 32 U.S. 243, 7 Pet. 243, 1833 WL 4189 (U.S.Md.), 8 L.Ed. 672
I worry the time comes again when we must have this conversation.
I’m here now watching for what this country was founded on! Not all of this odious nonsense that’s going on now! America, will always be a free country, and to whom ever wants to try to take what is our rights! You’re going to have a rude awakening! Guaranteed! 🇺🇸1st! Always and Forever!
This gives me chills.
Spine tinglingly brilliant acting
Great actors all of them!
The WWII generation had the valiant hearts of the men of the Revolution.
Hitchens was rather right, Philadelphia in this time was like 5th century Athens -- with brilliant men doing what they do best.
PAUL GIAMATTI IS ONE GREAT ACTOR!
While we live, let us all have a country, a free country where we truly vote our government of our liking, without corruption, a government without greed, a government that hears and truly listens to its countrymen, to instill that government with all that we deem right and then let freedoms bells ring, because without this, we are nothing but the governments subjects, as the king of England was to our forefathers. "We the People" have lost our power, lost our way! We must go back to the beginning, and start again or else all is lost.😢
❤️❤️❤️
A free country !
but it is not free for many yet after three centuries passed !
The republic stands to protect the rights of all people .
Happy 4th of July, guys!
Literal goosebumps
Amen in 2021!
The Greatest American To Ever Have Walked On These States United's Soil.......John Adams....Bar None. The One True American Visionary.
3 of my ancestors fought in the revolution and 1 died in the continental army near valley forge. There are graves of unknown American soldiers at valley forge. It occurred to me that one could be my 5x great grandfather!
When you read what happened to the signers of the declaration you realize how dearly bought is our liberty.
Best show ever.
In memory of john adams
Im so blessed to be of the same state as this honorable man! 😊 hella proud to be a Masshole!