I am so sorry that I have to push back a little on this, but I feel compelled to speak. As a Muslim from southeast Asia, specifically Malaysia, I find it interesting to see Muslims that were born or raised in western countries to be very quick to believe, and even build upon this tired "anti-muslim China" narrative from western MSM. These are the same people that often push for dissecting and countering western MSM narrative about the Muslim world - rightfully so. It's very telling. They are very skeptical to western MSM when it comes to reporting on predominantly sunni Muslim countries or sunni Muslims, but when it comes to western MSM reporting on predominantly shia Muslim countries or China or Russia, the same level of skepticism is diminished. It is almost as if when it comes to western countries foreign policy that is not related to West Asia, Muslims in western countries have very little skepticism. Then, when Muslim delegates/leaders/scholars from various Muslim NGOs travelled all the way to China to see Xinjiang for themselves, came back reporting a different finding that challeges the western MSM narrative, these western born/raised Muslims will brand them as sell-outs or traitors. What's disheartening is, they often have a large following - rightfully so - because they bring forward underrepresented Muslim voices in western countries through social media like TH-cam, TikTok, Instagram. In the end, they ended up isolating themselves and their followers due to their unwillingness to listen to a different perspective on China other than that it's a threat to Muslims and that it prosecutes Muslims out of hatred. Muslims in the west know very, very, very little about China the people, China the language, China the culture, let alone the nuances of what China is now versus what it was 100 or 50 years ago, and what it went through during that period, yet they seem to be so convinced, without affording any nuances, that China objectively despise Muslims. Witnessing this phenomenon from outside of the western world that many of our Muslim brothers and sisters were born or raised in reminded me of the early days post 9/11 when many westerners have a blind trust towards the media to the point of despising Muslims because they were, and perhaps still are, so convinced by the western MSM that Muslims simply hate their freedom. A few questions come to my mind, if China despise Islam/Muslims, why build and fund a school in the West Bank? Why cooperate with Pakistan in the China-Pakistan Energy Corridor? Why come and invest in Afghanistan? Why cooperate with Indonesia to build its first high speed train? Why spend millions of dollars sponsoring a science center for children and teenagers in rural Malaysia? Why many Muslims come to China to further study in Islamic studies in university? Why provide scholarship to outstanding students from Muslim countries? Why work with Muslim NGOs to further advance the halal standard certification? Why have Arabic or rather Uyghur script on its paper money? And if you say it's purely geostrategic in nature, then I'm sorry, you share the insecure mindset of the US empire. And perhaps that’s where we, southeast Asian Muslims, have a role to play to balance out the Muslim world approach on China because we see China working with other countries more as an effort to build bridges through cooperation and mutual desire to pursue development. Our diplomats actually engage in real diplomacy with China over the Uyghur issue back when it was THE issue, though it's up to you to label it as meaningless or useless diplomacy. We the Muslims in southeast Asia regularly come in contact with Mandarin/Hokkien/Cantonese/Tiong Hua people who have lived here for generations. We also regularly engage with tourists from China. In Malaysia, many Muslims even enrol their children in Chinese public school just like we send our children to madrasah to learn tilawah, so we view China very differently from the west. This East Turkestan issue reminds me of the conflict between the government of Malaysia and the self-proclaimed heir of the Sulu Sultanate regarding Sabah, one of the Malaysian states in Borneo. A few years ago, the followers of the Sulu Sultanate took it upon themselves to launch an armed invasion on Sabah because they claimed that it is a part of the Sulu Sultanate in south Philippines. How did the Malaysian government respond? The army killed many of the armed invaders and those who survived were jailed. They were Muslims just like me, but I do not support their cause. True, a cause is a cause, we cannot judge a cause based on who support the cause, even if zionist israel support the cause, even when ISIS is their ally I guess. Similarly, we cannot judge a cause based on the religion of the people inside the cause. Back to Malaysia, was it a horrific response? Yes, definitely. But to make it as an anti-Muslim issue would be ridiculous, though I think it would be much easier to frame the response of the Malaysian government from an anti-muslim perspective if Malaysia isn't a Muslim country, isn't a Muslim majority country and it has a not-so-clean history with Islam/Muslims. Please, I'm not denying any suffering or any sacrifice that Uyghurs in China went through. Neither do I intend to be an apologist, though the blame is mine if I sound like one due to my inability to express myself effectively as I intended. I'm sure throughout modern history, China doesn't have a clean record in human rights, and I think that to this day, China doesn't have the best understanding of what Islam is truly about, because its contact with Islam for the last few decades is in the context of resistance/separatist political cause that happen to be Muslim's. And if it's the conviction of Muslims in western countries that China is an enemy of Islam then so be it. Let us southeast Asian Muslims continue to relentlessly build the bridge diplomatically, economically, culturally. I am cautiously optimistic there will be more success in promoting what Islam is truly about by doing that than by refusing to build bridges. If this channel invited Mr. Sami Hamdi - who some falsely label him as soft on RTE or soft on MBS just because they don't like hearing his analysis - to discuss raving and twerking in Saudi Arabia, the land of our two holiest masjids, and at the end of that discussion we have a more nuanced view on Saudi Arabia that goes beyond a shallow "MBS bad", and that we are willing to hear that kind of nuanced discussion, then I asked the question, why can't this channel invite someone who is able to provide a deeply nuanced discussion or even challenge the western MSM narrative about the Uyghur issue that goes well beyond a simple "China prosecute Muslims" when in fact Uyghur is only one of the many Muslim groups scattered all over China? Invite someone outside of both the East Turkestan political movements or the government of China. Delve just a little deeper with the intention to understand, and the narrative about it as an issue of China prosecuting the Uyghur because of their religion which is Islam, quickly crumbles. Please invite Mr. Hussein Askary or anyone from the TWMCC to address and discuss all the allegations mentioned in this episode. Even the great Dr. Mahathir Mohamad would support going beyond a simple "anti-muslim China" narrative.
YOU COULD HAVE MAKE A VIDEO WITH ALL THE DOC EVIDANCE THAT IS A ONLINE FREE SOURCE, NOT JUST A PLAIN INTERVIEW-AS THERE ARE MANY WHO DO NOT BELIEV AND ALWAYS NEED EVIDANCE
Uyghurs are a great people. I go to an Uyghur halal restaurant in Canada and it is some of the best food in my neighborhood. It was also an opportunity to interact with a community that are very humble, respectful and genuine. ❤
Being muslim is being a terrorist in China. China considers Islam as "mental disease". Chinese communist party has incarcerated 2 million uyghur muslims in concentration camps. Mao & XiJinping are taught to be more powerful than Allah and prophet Muhammad. Yet no muslim country or popular organisations have the guts to call out china. China puts fear and greed in the hearts of almost
As a Muslim, I strongly request to whole Muslim umma, let us be united,form a mechanism, and raise a strong voice on this issue.to protect all our Muslim brothers and sisters, are being persecuted .whether in China,Palestine, kashmir, or elsewhere. This is our moral, religious obligation to do so.
Stop comparing Kashmir to what's happening in Palestine! That's ignorance! If you people do that, you will lose the support of the Indian community. For the sake of Palestine you should stop alienating other countries who have condemned the genocide in Palestine.
@collinshardyproust my dear brother in humanity, everybody has the right to agree or disagree with me.But as for as the truth is concerned, I say it without caring about the consequences.according to reliable sources until now in kashmir more than half million peoples have been killed since 1947 by the occupied Indian forces.
It's so hartbreaking what is happening to our Uyghur brothers and sisters May Allah protect them. We need to do more to support and amplifying our Uyghur brothers' and sisters' voices.They are literally holding on to Islam while we take it for granted.
Terrible to see them bought out of poverty be allowed to practice their religion. Go and see for yourself then criticise. It's easy to get a visa to China these days, it takes just 4 days.
@@Hitchhiker007 First of all the fact that your saying it's easy to get a visa to china says it all Uyghur's are not chineas they do not live in china they live in East Turkistan. They do not need permission from anyone to practice their religion. We all know why your beloved barbaric Chineas communist reign is locking up uyghurs in concentration camps. without Uyghurs they are weak. i don't need to see for myself I belive my fellow musim uyghur brothers and sisters. who are you andyways to question the testimony of a real uyghur. We now you are scared china will not get away with this.
Angl00rgime parrots parroting US rgime propaganda. The entire world knows that there is no evidence to support this angl00rgime claim of uigyur genocide. But there is plenty of evidence of Armenian genocide by ottoman empire
Yeah, China is destroying thousands of mosques, putting hundreds of thousands into re-education centres and taking away children from Uighurs because it loves them so much! The thousands of Uighur who fled China are just lying to make China look bad rather than fleeing for their lives.@@Hitchhiker007
If what this young man is saying is true, how is it that Uyghurs are prospering and living a good life in China; which they rightly should as citizens of China. Also, why are there so many Mosque in China and so many millions of Muslims including Uyghurs are living a good life all over China. The best way to verify if this guy is telling the truth, go to Xinjiang to see for yourself. Another point, if genocide is going on how is it that the Uyghur population grew from 5 million to more than 12 million and why are there no exodus of Uyghurs. What an insult to the Muslim countries around the world that according to the young man, these countries can be so easily bribed by China to turn a blind eye on the so called mistreatment and genocide of the Uyghurs. Sadly, this young man (whether intentionally or not) is sowing seeds for the western powers to try destroy one of the few countries who will stand up against the bullying tactics of the west. This young keeps bringing up Western Courts or Organisation to criminalised China. Without a doubt they will rule against China. Do not forget that they (the west) are masters of divide and rule. As for the children, they are not taken away to be raised up by the Han family, but put into free boarding schools (with the approval and knowledge of their parents) to be given free education right up to university (if they want). Tell me that this is a bad policy. One further point. As far as I know, China respects all religion and will never force a Muslim to eat pork. All religion are permitted in China, yes, even Christianity (which I heard so much that it is banned).
سبحان الله It was very heart wrenching to listening this Uyghur brother . Muslims are oppressed mostly in every country. Sometimes we can see that and sometimes it’s very hiddenlly doing by oppressor ! May Allaah protect us all
@shahnazkabir1 - Wrong ! Muslims are trouble makers in every country. But their power has been broken, never to return again. God has ordained it to be so.
The uyghur genocide started 20 yrs ago. I had a chinese muslim friend who used to visit xinjiang 20 yrs ago until the cgina govt blocked access to some parts which mostly likely has concentration camps.
@@jannette8800 but i think most muslims do help & give aid to Palestinians in general. Afterall israel is an apartheid state : all palestinians are targeted regardless of religion. And via dna Palestinians are descended from very ancient Jews : so dna wise they are indigenous population unlike zionists who came to invade and in fact from eastern europe.
Xinjiang is open for visitors. Instead of just listening to speakers, go there and see it with your own eyes. There are plenty of street videos in Xinjiang as well.
Basically same thing that communist did in Russia. I'm Tatar and my grand grandad was sent to prison for having a copy of Quran. Mosques were closed for many years. My grandma hide food before night when she were fasting during Ramadan. And many more. So sad they have this right know in China. But on the other hand everything is within Allahs will. May He perfect your faith during these harsh times, our Uygur brothers🙏
The Muslim world went to China to ask President Xi Jinping to help with Gaza. Why are they so silent on Uighurs? The answer is there is no issue with Uighurs.
Gives a new perspective to the state of your relationship with Allah. How lax we are with our salah when our brothers are being criminalized just by being muslim.
Feel like the Ughir’s have just been forgotten about the Ummah needs to stand up for our brothers and sisters a very useful informative discussion thank you for raising this topic
Also in Kurdistan and darfur People not worried about Muslims. People want to put outside the hate against Jews. Nobody never protested against genocide of Muslims in other places.
May Allah free and save the Uyghur brothers and sisters from this eraser of their culture and Islam. I’ve heard many talks about the Uyghur genocide but I’ve learned a lot of new info here. China is such a corrupt place, the government is oppressing so many including their own for the purpose of a communist state. They worship their country and their religion is nationalism. I always have hope that there are humans there whose heart can break the shackles of oppression and rise up and free people from their tyranny starting with the Uyghurs first inshAllah. Thank you so much for having this conversation.
my mom lived in china during the cultural revolution and she said that it was very clear that the state itself was the religion and that anything that subverted this, be it islam, christianity or any other religion, was considered treasonous. nation-states always behave in this way in some way or another, but it's very obvious here!
YES ,THE UIGHUR ISSUE NOT A RELIGION IS ILLEGAL CHINESE OCCUPATION THAT HEPPEND WITH THE HELP OF RUSSIANS IN 1949. CHINESE HAVE TRIED TO CONQUER THE LAND OF UIGHURS IN 1735 BUT THEY COULD NOT STAY AND RULE ONLY IN 1949 AND OFICCIALLY IN 1952(BEFORE RUSSIANS WERE THERE).THE MASS ETHNIC CHINESE IMMIGARTION BEGUN. UIGHURS DO NOT SEPARATE BEJING OR SHANHAI-UIGHURS WANT FREEDOM AND INDEPENDANCE OF UIGHUR LAND WITHINTHE NATURAL BORDER.
After seeing the support of the “east turkistan” movement for Israel I find it hard to believe that the Uyghur genocide claim is true. Also we have seen reports from western journalists that have visited xinjiang and confirmed there is no genocide.im sure there has been a “re education” program as no country would allow a separatist movement to thrive.
Bottom line is that China oppresses the Uighurs. If you don't support Uighurs just because the US supports UIghurs in its geopolitical rivalry with China then don't complain when people don't support Palestine because of geopolitics too. We should always call out oppression, even if other countries we don't like are using it for their purposes. Oppression is still oppression. Muslims can't be two-faced otherwise our opponents will point it out to undermine our moral standing on Palestine too.
Their support of Israel is because they're funded by the US government. Many of these Turkistan/Uyghur separatist groups are based in the US! They're basically irredentist ethno-nationalists who make claims to all land where Uyghurs live.
This is so sad and difficult. inshaaAllah the situation of all Muslims and innocent people on Earth changes for the better soon. Thanks for this Podcast 👍
Yes. But isn’t it interesting that it occurred after Trump exchanged the suppression of the democratic movement for the military government’s recognition of Israel. Afterwards the factions of the military fell out and ethnic devisions opened. All involved are Muslims but instead of the Akhira they are pursuing the dunya. They are backed by local powers who also only have their self-interest at heart and also are armed or financed by America. All this would be addressed by the unity of the Ummah against the oppressors of every kind.
Islam was never eradicated in Al Andalusia modern day Spain. Islam is reviving back and may Allah help the people of east Turkmenistan our brothers and sisters and any other facing oppression.
I was in China last month again. First time in China as a Muslim (Chinese revert). I noticed even in other Chinese province that there was police in front of the entrance of the mosque during jummuah. Just like the brother here said
Exactly which part of China is that? China as an entire country is gigantic and they're anti religion as a whole, homie. Police standing there is one thing, police arresting people without reason is another thing. Were you arrested?
The Dutcht even have their army in front of the synagogues. It's to protect them. A lot of Muslims in the Netherlands would love to have police in front of their mosques since they are attacked the most.
Really good timing, I've been making a point to mention the Uighurs in this current climate of (justified) Palestinian sympathy. I think the oppression is that extraordinary that people don't truly truly comprehend or believe it. We need to organise a boycott movement for China too. However difficult it may be
The thing is, there are people like this in the world! Look at Israel , look at Ukraine, there are just evil people in the world ,who want to treat people like slaves- the Zionist work to keep people divided ,so these despots prosper.
My mom has been in Xinjiang for a month and she told me Muslims are fully respected. The "victim" is totally telling a lie. As a Chinese student in a Dutch university, I think Muslims have a better life in China instead of Europe. I have several friends from Xinjiang and they are Muslims, they are very angry about Western media's rumor about their home town. By the way, in China, when we reserve a meal, people will always ask us whether there are Muslims because we don't wanna offend their eating habits unintentionally.
Sad. Only Israels actions are the only ones that get Muslims/the ummah screaming on the streets yet this entire situation has been ignored and yet even after knowing no is even calling for marches....
Yes. China treats their Muslims well. The Israelis could solve Gaza by doing the same, e.g. helping Arab women to marry responsible and peaceful Jewish men.
Ya Allah, we are blind and we are deaf. You are the all knowing, all seeing and all hearing. We are are powerless and you are all mighty. Save the oppressed, and punish the oppressors and replace those in power for ones who are just.
I have enjoyed several of your videos initially drawn by the Channel’s name, “The Thinking Muslim”. I’m not Muslim myself, but am aware that in my home country of the UK representation and the Islamic voice represented I the mainstream media are lacking in terms of amount of exposure but also, for me, they are just about always at odds with the impressions and characteristics of Muslims that have been part of my life whether superficially, as acquaintances, and, in some cases, happily as friends. Please do continue to offer a thinking Muslim perspective so that thinking people, Muslim or not, can grow in both understanding and appreciation. Of course, even thinking people can get things wrong, and hold divergent positions and opinions, and on this particular episode I hope you will allow me to offer some observations which, although critical, hopefully may be constructive. I watched the episode despite the title which was a fairly hardline position on what is happening in Xinjiang, even though you did say more than once that there are many voices globally that question the narrative of a genocide taking place. Your title indicated that you had made up your mind on the matter and as such I didn’t think it was going to be either balanced or nuanced. Nonetheless, it’s important to listen to people you may disagree with as much as those you may agree with. Even tough you yourself gave little to definitively indicate where you stood, the title, the use East Turkestan, the lack of any meaningful challenge to any your interviewee claimed, and the complete absence of any presentation of the many difficulties the narrative presented has, fairly or unfairly gave the impression that you have a hardline belief that genocide is taking place in Xinjiang. Of course, you have a right to hold whatever view you wish. In this particular case your apparent position seems so incongruous with a claim of being a thinking person. You failed even to ask the most basic of questions that is the key to China’s positions that its actions (whatever they may be) are to counter terrorism,,, was there as problem in China of terrorist attacks being committed by members of the Uyghur community? This would provide something that could be fact checked, rater than his personal anecdotes International media reports thediplomat.com/tag/china-terrorist-attacks/ Chinese documentary Fighting Terrorism in Xinjiang th-cam.com/video/u4cYE6E27_g/w-d-xo.html It contains terrible but compelling CCTV footage of the Imam of the Grand Kashgar Mosque being assassinated by Uyghur extremists (BBC report of the incident www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-28586426) Also objective fact-checkable are the number of Muslims from China who undertake Hajj, An academic paper published in Istanbul Gelisim University Journal of Social Sciences, “China’s Hajj Affairs under the Perspective of National Security”. That Uyghur Muslims make the Hajj each year is undeniable… how does this fit with the rigid narrative we heard? dergipark.org.tr/tr/download/article-file/463351 (It is a point raised several times that too few are allowed to make the Hat, but as you will know, Saudi authorities allocate a quota to each country for the number of Pilgrims who may go) worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/hajj-quota-by-country Final food for thinking, Five countries have borders with Xinjiang, and yet not a single recorded account of anyone crossing the border to escape a genocide - name one genocide where there wasn’t mass internal/external displacement of large numbers of people, It at the very least raises doubt to the genocide claim. My interest here is not to prove you wrong (how could I as I’m not 100% sure of what your opposition is) but rather to offer alternative perspectives and points that deserve at least a hearing,. Make it what you will, Sir.
Re: your last argument, I'm living in a Western country myself and two of my friends are of Uyghur descent, one of them was born in Kazachstan, the other in Kyrgyzstan. One of them recommended me a restaurant, owned by Uyhurs who only speak Russian. All of them only one generation removed from East-Turkestan. I strongly believe we simply have not been exposed to their stories yet.
There has been no genocide in any Uyghur region in fact the population has grown over the last 10 years. The Uyghur language is spoken openly and there are many many Mosques. Anyone who doubts this should go there to find out the truth. The least you could all do is talk to Uyghur on line, who live in Xinjiang and ask them what their life is like
China is friend to Muslims. As long as they keep their religion private, become patriots, and breed responsibly, Uyghurs are treated very well. What is wrong with that?
Thank you so much for this interview. I really needed to understand more about the Uyghur situation. This world is so messed up and Muslims are targeted in a way by the whole dominating world powers.
I really respected the fact that despite all that they’ve had to endure over the past decades they still don’t want their cause to be politically exploited by other nations. Support them because they’re suffering from oppression and injustice! My prayers are with you East Turkistan! 🤲❤️
From what I remember, the U.N released a report saying that China may have commited crimes against humanity. So, no denying the Uyghurs are suffering, genocide in the current definition is a bit of a stretch, but cultural genocide might be more fitting. Personally it sounds like activism for East Turkistan instead of Uyghurs alone, but still I don't get some people in the comments. Muslims are likely to be having their religion forced out of them. Innocents amongst the millions who refuse are likely to be suffering horrible things for the sake of indoctrination. How can we just brush it off? What happened to our humanity? Whether the U.S is hijacking the situation or not for political reasons, it doesn't change that China is targeting the group of people one way or another.
We must never be deceived by the popularity of a cause. Uyghurs matter as much as Palestine, as do the Rohingya and Kashmir. Muslims stand by Muslims. The politics of states and their alliances shouldn’t matter at all, but how many Muslim leaders bow before China. Their dunya is their concern. Our Ummah is about the Akhira. So what matters is not what kafir powers do, whoever they are, but can Muslims live their lives freely and can Islam thrive. If not they are our enemy, if so they are not.
You don't have to say much, you just talk in the middle east about how Israel slaughtered Islam and how Islam slaughtered each other. GOD WILL ALWAYS BLESS CHINA AND ALWAYS BE WITH CHINA...!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 ✝️🇨🇳GOD BLESS CHINA🇨🇳✝️
I am a follower of your channel from Pakistan working for the cause of saving people from Qadiani Cult Your work is beyond my appreciation Plz arrange one program on that matter too May Allah protect and bless your noble team.
Jazakum Allah khair. May Allah help our Muslim brothers and sisters all around the world. I always find it frustrating when some muslims buy into the ccp propaganda.
ok, some basic facts: 1. not all Uyghur people are muslims, and not all muslims in china are Uyghur, for example another major chinese muslim community is Hui. 2. there are nearly 25000 mosques in Xinjiang along, more than the entire US, UK, Germany, France these 4 countries combined together. as far as i know (and visited), in every major city there are mosques for religious people to go, same for churches or temples. china is huge, and it's none religious, so these locations are not like every where, but you can find them in most places. 3. Uyghur is one of many ethnic groups in Xinjiang, accounts for around 40% of total population in Xinjiang same as Han. Uyghur population increased from around 3 millions in 1949 when PRC was founded to around 12 millions now, life expectancy from around 30 years to 75 years. 4. there is no visible religious nor ethnic tensions in china, almost none issue for them, which is quite different and almost unimaginable in other places like in the west, it's very harmonious, different history, culture and values i think. 5. "East Turkestan" ideology mixed with radical islamic extremism caused terrorism in Xinjiang and china, one is trying to equate itself to all Uyghurs in china, the other one is trying to equate itself to all muslims in china. they represent neither, and china is against them both. 6. this extremism and terrorism problem in Xinjiang was once very severe, you can find reports about them online, horrifying events. china is like the safest and most peaceful place in the world, for such thing happened in china, it was unimaginable and a national shock. 7. the way china deal with this problem is sharp contract to the west, instead of wars and stigmatization of the whole islam religion and muslims, they focused on identifying and fixing the root causes: poverty, islamic extremism and political separatism indoctrination. so the solution are: help youth to learn chinese and Uyghur language, and develop professional skills, learn basic islamic knowledge, and basic political and history knowledge. 8. the west don't like muslims, and they don't like china, but they love muslims in china, and some useful idiots who knows very little about it. under trump, US removed some "East Turkestan" organizations from its official terrorist black list. 9. Xijiang is the major key hub for BRI. 10. Xinjiang made huge progress in economic and social development especially after they tackled the extremism and terrorism problems. it will certainly be even more prospers in the future. my advise is: go to china, go to Xinjiang, see for yourself, ask local people especially Uyghur people, what have really happened and is happening, how things really were and really are. imo, this channel to my disappointment is generally very much ill informed and miles off when it comes to china, not much better than CNN, BBC, NT and the sort. for a voice of islamic intellectual perspective, i expected it to be more objective and factual. plus: there was a big earthquake in Gansu few days ago, it devastated the whole area and large population including many Hui muslim people, it's on the news, and the emergency and rescue are still going on, everyone can go check it out as we speak, see how chinese government and people are handling it. the unity and supports from government, society and ordinary people is unimaginable in other places like the west, just like during covid pandemic.
It is very obvious that this comment was written by Chinese officials, Very clear Chinese propaganda, kept ready somewhere. Then copied and pasted to any kind of broadcast about this subject
CHINESE BOTS VERY ACTIVE. UIGHURS 99% WERE MUSLIMS -TODAY THEY SCARED AND MANY ELIMINATED HUI ETHNIC CHINESE MUSLIMS ARE ETHNIC CHINESE ,HAVE CHINESE DNA,CULTURE AND LANGAUGE,THEY SHARE ONE LAND-HUI ARE NOT THREAT TO ONE CHINA POLICY
Stop calling it Xinjiang its East Turkistan. Uyghurs are not chinease. we do not need to go to East turkistan We believe our Uyghur Muslim brothers and sisters by face value. their testimonies are enough evidence for us. no matter how many massive paraghraphes you write we will support and belive our uyghur brothers and sisters.
We Muslims need to turn to Allah Follow the Quran and the prophet Muhammad Other wise Allah forbid we will have the same fate as the Palestinian’s and Uyghur May Allah forgive them and bring an end to their suffering
The sahabas followed the Quran and Sunnah and yet went through famine, lost wars and many tragedies. You need to learn Islam first before you actually speak.
I listened to the entire show to give this guest a fair hearing. He claims 8 million Uyghurs processed through concentration camps which is just logistically impossible. Such huge people movements in an open area like the Tamrin Basin would be easily recorded by satellite. Claiming widespread "rape" is bearing false witness and just evil. Claiming that all Islamic countries support China on the Uyghur issue just because of "economic interests" is contradictory, on the other hand he claims that China is dependent on energy from the Islamic countries (which is true), then this means that those countries have leverage on China, not just one way. Claiming that "genocide is a term created by the West", and playing with the definition to fit the supposed oppression as genocide is again disingenuous. China respects Islam and Muslims, but a red line of any secular state is that religion cannot be used as a cynical tool for separatist activity. The West constantly promotes radicalism in Xinjiang (why do you think the US stayed in Afghanistan for 20 years, right next to Xinjiang). Turkiye where this guest is living is also a secular state, and frankly no Islamic state would allow separatism either. Even the UN Human Rights report issued last year and sponsored by the West tried desperately to find evidence of widespread oppression, but could not, and only resorted to innuendos of supposed oppression. Like what Dr. Mahatir says in an earlier interview, if any Muslims have a problem with China's policies, then talk and negotiate. Don't use false accusations and black propaganda.
"talk and negotiate" haha. People are being slaughtered and tortured since 2015. I'm sick of lip service. It's time to sanction those who are responsible. When you say that taking 8 million people to concentration camps is "logistically impossible" you seem to forget what happened during the holocaust, 6 million people died in those camps, those are the ones who DIED. How many more where taken there?
@@jamilbrugsen1362 There are 12 mil Uyghurs in China according to census. If you claim there are 40 mil and countless camps then please provide your source.
@@eng2271 The information you get is Chinese state source. According chinese state madia there is no chinese concentration camps , no torture , no organ harvesting .There are satellite images,testimonials,leaked documatations of chinese state about legalisation the persecution and assimilation of uighurs. According Uighur diaspora ( there are Uighurs who worked in Xinjang government, my uncle is one of them) and accorindg all documantaions Uighurs are 40-45 million . Chinese state present number 11-12 million Uighurs-do you still believ that CCP will tell you the truth ? Census of China according the Uigjrs 1952year Ethnic chinese 250.000.000 uighurs -4.500.000 2000 year ethnic chinese -1.250.000.000 Uighurs 40-45 million
@@eng2271 another significan documentation HRW published an artical in 2017 blood samples was taken from 17 million Uighurs in XUAR age spectrum 12-62 year, so as you can see the age spectrum age 0-12 and 62-100 is absent. it is already more than 12 million!
This was a funny interview! I am supporting Palestine because it is a cause for the freedom from colonialism and occupation. What china is doing the right thing. Not allowing kids to be religious bigots when they grow old. Not supporting some religious separatist mocement.
I was in southeast China and walking around a mosque complex. I heard from an upstairs room, children reciting the Quran, which made be feel very happy. This was before Xi but are ethnic Chinese Muslims (Hui) treated differently from Uyghurs?
Every single person in China is repressed in some way. The CCP runs a one party totalitarian state with little regard to personal rights. However, there are degrees of repression. The Hui are ethnic Chinese Muslims. They have a lot in common by race and culture. So they eat some similar foods and have common dress etc. So they aren't seen as a threat in the same way Turkic Uighurs are. The Uighurs are also seen as seperatists. And the more the Chinese repress the Uighuras, the more seperaratist the Uighurs will naturally become.
The Hui muslims have not been involved in activities of separatism . And they are ethnically Chinese muslim . Xinjiang has issue of religion and also ethnic differences . And the separatism issue is also there. So Hui are treated differently compared to uyghurs . For the CCP the Hui are good muslim who serve the nation but the uyghurs are bad Muslim who wants to break up the nation .
Assalamualikum, Jazakum allah khayr usdath Jalal and brother Rachid for this informative interview, the last question was definitely painful to wrap your mind around, but brother Rachid gave beautiful answer that only shows his level of imane May Allah bless him and accept from him Ameen , and help our brothers and sisters in east Turkestan through this hard times. قال الله تعلى في كتابه العزيز ( انا نحن نزلنا الذكر وانا له لحافظون) Allah took upon himself to protect this religion it will always be there , but it’s upon Muslims to protect each other.
Very poor. You didnt even attempt to push back on his claims- Islam in China is alive and well and far from being stamped out. Poor journalism at best, a dangerous attempt to ignite Sinophobia among Muslims at worst
0:15 The biggest muslim ethnic group are the Hui muslim,10 Million, the chinese government doesnt bother them 1 bit. I highly doubt there's a genocide going on in China. This is a psy-ops by the west.
There are definitely independent sources out there that this channel should have researched before having this guy on. This plays right into Western governments hands - to divide and conquer.
As a Christian, I always pray for the uyguhr people, and I have signed petitions -- I always think, one day it may be me, and I would like to think someone would care enough to sign a petition for me - people must stick to gether . .
Selective praying don’t help. You probably agnostic or even rooting for the Israelis which means you just don’t like the Chinese. We get it, it’s not a Muslim thing.
@@farhatamin.. Wake up...We are masters of Mandarin language of Manchu-Eastern Turk people. We are experts of China including East Asia. . How many million WUMAO on the comment sections of TH-cam right now?... We all know that the Communist Soviet Union has invented China on 1st October 1949. On 20 October 1949 China's army illegally invaded East Turkestan and on 22 December 1949 China's army has illegally invaded The Capital city Ghulja of the EAST TURKESTAN REPUBLIC. Legally Chinese do not belong to East Turkestan, Tibet, Southern Mongolia, Manchuria, Yellow Uyghur Gansu, Kazakh Aksay, Koknoor, Guangxi Zhuang Region, Yunnan, Ningxia Hui region, Korean Liaoning... All Chinese are after 20 October 1949 illegally invaded war criminals in East Turkestan, Tibet, Southern Mongolia, Manchuria, Yellow Uyghur Gansu, Kazakh Aksay, Koknoor, Guangxi Zhuang Region, Yunnan, Ningxia Hui region, Korean Liaoning... in fact since ancient times The world's Great Gobi Desert has totally isolated East Turkestan in the Far West and China in Far Eastern corner of Asia . Uyghur Nation live in own Natural Territory East Turkestan in Central Asia. Chinese live in China in Far Eastern corner of Asia. Uyghurs DO NOT LIVE IN CHINA in Far Eastern corner of Asia. Both Chinese State and Chinese do not let Uyghurs freely travel from East Turkestan to China. Because Uyghurs are not citizens of China. China do not issue passport to Uyghurs, because Uyghurs are not citizens of China. Both Chinese State and Chinese do not let Uyghurs from East Turkestan to travel to other countries. China has unlawfully cut off all telephone connections, Internet connections and postal services for all Uyghurs in between East Turkestan and rest of the world m China do not let foreigners to travel to East Turkestan to meet up with Uyghurs without Han-Chinese state agents under strict surveillance under pre-set up stage. If any Uyghur meet up with foreigners without Han-Chinese state agents under strict surveillance under pre-set up stage, then this Uyghur and entire family members immediately exterminated by Chinese government. Both Chinese State and Chinese do not let Uyghurs escape from East Turkestan to other countries. Neighbouring countries of East Turkestan do not let Uyghurs escape from East Turkestan to other countries to become refugee. Neighbouring countries of East Turkestan are China's toilets 🚻. All Chinese worldwide do not let Uyghurs, Tibetans, Manchurians and non Chinese people talk about China's Uyghur Genocide, Tibetan Genocide, Manchurian Genocide... China's terror long arms are in all countries... @TheThinkingMuslim ... Palestinians have unlawfully supported China's Uyghur Genocide for China's money at the UN Human Rights Council Assembly in every session in every year in Geneva in Switzerland... Palestinians have unlawfully Terrorised All Uyghurs worldwide by unlawfully supporting China's Uyghur Genocide for China's money. SUPPORT GENOCIDE IS AN ACT OF TERRORISM, CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY, AND SUPPORTERS OF CHINA'S UYGHUR GENOCIDE MUST FACE JUSTICE AND EXECUTION. On 10-20 June 2023, Palestinians have all the way travelled to China and Palestinians have unlawfully supported China's Uyghur Genocide for China's money. ON THURSDAY 18TH OCTOBER 2023 PALESTINE HAVE ALL THE WAY TRAVELLED TO GENEVA IN SWITZERLAND AND PALESTINIANS HAVE UNLAWFULLY SUPPORTED CHINA'S UYGHUR GENOCIDE FOR CHINA'S MONEY. PALESTINIANS MUST FACE JUSTICE AND EXECUTION FOR UNLAWFULLY SUPPORTING CHINA'S UYGHUR GENOCIDE FOR CHINA'S MONEY, TERRORISED ALL UYGHURS WORLDWIDE, DESTROYED UYGHUR NATION... Palestinians are members of China's Global Disinformation Campaign to cover up China's Uyghur Genocide in East Turkestan in Central Asia. Except Albania, All Muslim countries including PALESTINE have unlawfully supported China's Uyghur Genocide at the UN Human Rights Council Assembly on Thursday 18th October 2023 .... Arab Muslims worldwide do not see non Arab Muslims as human beings. Except Turkey, Albania and Bosnia, All Muslim countries including PALESTINE are the most dangerous places for Muslim Uyghurs, Tibetans, Manchurians.... Hell is far better than Muslim countries including PALESTINE. All Muslims worldwide are unlawfully supporting Palestinians for unlawfully supporting China's Uyghur Genocide. Ummah are concubines of Arabs . Ummah only capable to support Arabs, Arab Palestinians, Arab Syrians, Arab Iraqis, Arab Yemenis... Ummah do not support non-Arab Muslim Uyghurs, Tibetans, Manchurians.... Ummah are masters of double standard, Islamic racism, hypocrisy... Islamophobia is the creation of Ummah. Ummah worship Arabs. Arabs worship Chinese. Chinese worship money. Body Parts of Uyghur children, Uyghur women and Uyghur men are unlawfully classified as UYGHUR HALAL ORGANS by brain damaged uncivilized subhuman scholars of the Religion of Peace. Uyghur Halal Organs, Human Flesh Capsules and many unthinkable bloody things are happening in between China and Muslim countries including PALESTINE. Uyghur Nation is the world's biggest Victim of the Global Islamic Terrorism, Islamic Fascism, Islamic Racism, Islamic Double Standard, Islamic hypocrisy, Islamic propaganda, Islamic prostitution, Islam misinformation, Islam deception.... Except Albania and Bosnia, All Muslim countries including PALESTINE have unlawfully arrested legal Uyghur children, Uyghur women and Uyghur men, and they have sold those defenceless Uyghurs to the slaughter houses in China to produce UYGHUR HALAL ORGANS.... HUMANITY does not exist in those shit-hole countries... there is no human in those shit-hole countries. They are China's concubines. They are cockroaches. They are unlawfully supporting China's mass extermination of Defenceless Uyghur children, Uyghur women and Uyghur men in East Turkestan of Uyghur Nation in Central Asia. Money is above Allah for all Muslims worldwide. They are Supporting China's Uyghur Genocide. They are Supporting Palestinians and even Palestinians have all the way travelled to China and Palestinians have unlawfully supported China's Uyghur Genocide for China's money... Uyghur Nation is on slaughter. Body parts of Uyghur Nation are on sale in Muslim countries including PALESTINE. Muslims worldwide will face justice, destruction, blood baths, horrors, hells.... Even Pakistan has established The China Pakistan Escort Corridor on the Flesh, Blood and Lives of Millions of Defenceless Uyghur civilians in East Turkestan in Central Asia... What do you expect from Muslims worldwide?... what do you expect from 57 Muslim countries including PALESTINE... What do you expect from uncivilized subhuman cockroaches in nasty shit-hole Middle East and North Africa?... what is UYGHUR HALAL ORGANS?... How is Uyghur Halal Organs "Made in China " for Muslims?... How is Uyghur Halal Organs traded in Muslim countries including PALESTINE... What is HUMAN FLESH CAPSULES?... How many million Uyghur children have become China's Human Flesh Capsules?... How is China's Human Flesh Capsules "Made in China "? ... What is islam ?.... ALLAH WILL NOT FORGIVE MUSLIMS . ALLAH WILL NOT FORGET MUSLIMS . ALLAH WILL OPEN THE GATES OF HELL TO 99.99999999 PERCENT OF MUSLIMS WORLDWIDE. ISLAM WILL GO TO HELL WITH THEM ... Freedom, independence and self governing for East Turkestan, Tibet, Manchuria, Southern Mongolia, Yellow Uyghur Gansu, Kazakh Aksay, Koknoor, Guangxi Zhuang Region, Yunnan, Ningxia Hui region, Korean Liaoning. Viva ......
may Allah help the muslims to stand up for oppression no matter who it is against. this is pure evil, why isn't enough muslims speaking out against this , our prophet commands us to stand up and speak out against oppression no matter who it is against. what is wrong with our ummah may Allah help us. Ameen
it feels to me like there needs to be some kind of central islamist organisation that keeps tabs on all crimes against the people. A site where all Muslims can go on and see exactly what is happening and where. Because Muslims are being oppressed in many places. Palestinians are the only ones that seem to get constant coverage. Also its an argument the zionists and enemies of islam make, they say to us what about the Uygurs, meaning your silent on them, why you care so much about these muslims or those muslims. Makes us look like agenda driven hypocrites. @@jamilbrugsen1362
@@dannychan1342 I support the Palestinians in their resistance against the Zionists just as I support the Uyghurs in their resistance against Chinese Imperialism.
If your channel is indeed thinking, you should shout louder about what's happening in Gaza rather than giving platform to a non existent genocide in Xinjiang... go visit Xinjiang and compare that to Gaza. Please think, thinking Muslim...
This channel has covered and raised awarness for palestine so don't even try that weak tactic. There is no such thing as Xinjiang It's East Turkistan Get it right. Once again we don't need to visit East Turkistan we belive our Uyghur brothers and sisters. their countless testimonies are enough evidence for us to support them. So keep crying keep denying the truth. China's time will be up and EastTurkistan will be liberated and free from the evil CCP Reighm.
May Allah unite the Ummah and support it in freeing our people everywhere from oppression, may He make the revival of Islam easy and allow us to visit our brothers and sisters everywhere without resitrctions
When I was listening the conversation, wife came, saw the guest, and asked "Is he uzbek? He looks like us"... There is no way to call uyg'urs as "chinese muslims". Yes, definitely they are us. Their pain is our pain. May Allah ease OUR pain and suffering.
what changed is all the muslims leaders have sold out. May Allah help them. the quran talks about this oppressing your brothers and sisters with the enemy. What will they tell Allah, do they think we are all not returning back to their lord
This is all very much exaggerated at best, there was a security situation in Xinjiang with questionable actions yes, but ultimately the Chinese govt is acting in the best interest of its citizens, including Uyghurs. their living standards improved massively and they (as an ethnic minority) were exempt from the one-child policy, so how is this "genocide"? The Uyghur language can be found on every Chinese Yuan bill, it's even on the national money, so how is the "culture and language" being erased?.this gentleman is fabricating lies to push for an ethno-nationalist agenda of seperatism, enthusiastically supported by western imperialism . Islam in China isn't suppressed. there's flourishing muslim communities across the country. please see through Amerikkka's propaganda brothers and sisters. Amerikkka doesn't care about muslims so ask yourselves why is Washington promoting this cause so much?
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stop spreading US propaganda, you are justifying US sanction on Uighur and hurting them economically. it is disgusting.
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This is really depressing... we need unity .. I would like to access the evidence as well from the tribunal and leaked documents
I am so sorry that I have to push back a little on this, but I feel compelled to speak. As a Muslim from southeast Asia, specifically Malaysia, I find it interesting to see Muslims that were born or raised in western countries to be very quick to believe, and even build upon this tired "anti-muslim China" narrative from western MSM. These are the same people that often push for dissecting and countering western MSM narrative about the Muslim world - rightfully so. It's very telling. They are very skeptical to western MSM when it comes to reporting on predominantly sunni Muslim countries or sunni Muslims, but when it comes to western MSM reporting on predominantly shia Muslim countries or China or Russia, the same level of skepticism is diminished. It is almost as if when it comes to western countries foreign policy that is not related to West Asia, Muslims in western countries have very little skepticism.
Then, when Muslim delegates/leaders/scholars from various Muslim NGOs travelled all the way to China to see Xinjiang for themselves, came back reporting a different finding that challeges the western MSM narrative, these western born/raised Muslims will brand them as sell-outs or traitors. What's disheartening is, they often have a large following - rightfully so - because they bring forward underrepresented Muslim voices in western countries through social media like TH-cam, TikTok, Instagram. In the end, they ended up isolating themselves and their followers due to their unwillingness to listen to a different perspective on China other than that it's a threat to Muslims and that it prosecutes Muslims out of hatred.
Muslims in the west know very, very, very little about China the people, China the language, China the culture, let alone the nuances of what China is now versus what it was 100 or 50 years ago, and what it went through during that period, yet they seem to be so convinced, without affording any nuances, that China objectively despise Muslims. Witnessing this phenomenon from outside of the western world that many of our Muslim brothers and sisters were born or raised in reminded me of the early days post 9/11 when many westerners have a blind trust towards the media to the point of despising Muslims because they were, and perhaps still are, so convinced by the western MSM that Muslims simply hate their freedom.
A few questions come to my mind, if China despise Islam/Muslims, why build and fund a school in the West Bank? Why cooperate with Pakistan in the China-Pakistan Energy Corridor? Why come and invest in Afghanistan? Why cooperate with Indonesia to build its first high speed train? Why spend millions of dollars sponsoring a science center for children and teenagers in rural Malaysia? Why many Muslims come to China to further study in Islamic studies in university? Why provide scholarship to outstanding students from Muslim countries? Why work with Muslim NGOs to further advance the halal standard certification? Why have Arabic or rather Uyghur script on its paper money? And if you say it's purely geostrategic in nature, then I'm sorry, you share the insecure mindset of the US empire. And perhaps that’s where we, southeast Asian Muslims, have a role to play to balance out the Muslim world approach on China because we see China working with other countries more as an effort to build bridges through cooperation and mutual desire to pursue development. Our diplomats actually engage in real diplomacy with China over the Uyghur issue back when it was THE issue, though it's up to you to label it as meaningless or useless diplomacy. We the Muslims in southeast Asia regularly come in contact with Mandarin/Hokkien/Cantonese/Tiong Hua people who have lived here for generations. We also regularly engage with tourists from China. In Malaysia, many Muslims even enrol their children in Chinese public school just like we send our children to madrasah to learn tilawah, so we view China very differently from the west.
This East Turkestan issue reminds me of the conflict between the government of Malaysia and the self-proclaimed heir of the Sulu Sultanate regarding Sabah, one of the Malaysian states in Borneo. A few years ago, the followers of the Sulu Sultanate took it upon themselves to launch an armed invasion on Sabah because they claimed that it is a part of the Sulu Sultanate in south Philippines. How did the Malaysian government respond? The army killed many of the armed invaders and those who survived were jailed. They were Muslims just like me, but I do not support their cause. True, a cause is a cause, we cannot judge a cause based on who support the cause, even if zionist israel support the cause, even when ISIS is their ally I guess. Similarly, we cannot judge a cause based on the religion of the people inside the cause. Back to Malaysia, was it a horrific response? Yes, definitely. But to make it as an anti-Muslim issue would be ridiculous, though I think it would be much easier to frame the response of the Malaysian government from an anti-muslim perspective if Malaysia isn't a Muslim country, isn't a Muslim majority country and it has a not-so-clean history with Islam/Muslims.
Please, I'm not denying any suffering or any sacrifice that Uyghurs in China went through. Neither do I intend to be an apologist, though the blame is mine if I sound like one due to my inability to express myself effectively as I intended. I'm sure throughout modern history, China doesn't have a clean record in human rights, and I think that to this day, China doesn't have the best understanding of what Islam is truly about, because its contact with Islam for the last few decades is in the context of resistance/separatist political cause that happen to be Muslim's. And if it's the conviction of Muslims in western countries that China is an enemy of Islam then so be it. Let us southeast Asian Muslims continue to relentlessly build the bridge diplomatically, economically, culturally. I am cautiously optimistic there will be more success in promoting what Islam is truly about by doing that than by refusing to build bridges.
If this channel invited Mr. Sami Hamdi - who some falsely label him as soft on RTE or soft on MBS just because they don't like hearing his analysis - to discuss raving and twerking in Saudi Arabia, the land of our two holiest masjids, and at the end of that discussion we have a more nuanced view on Saudi Arabia that goes beyond a shallow "MBS bad", and that we are willing to hear that kind of nuanced discussion, then I asked the question, why can't this channel invite someone who is able to provide a deeply nuanced discussion or even challenge the western MSM narrative about the Uyghur issue that goes well beyond a simple "China prosecute Muslims" when in fact Uyghur is only one of the many Muslim groups scattered all over China? Invite someone outside of both the East Turkestan political movements or the government of China. Delve just a little deeper with the intention to understand, and the narrative about it as an issue of China prosecuting the Uyghur because of their religion which is Islam, quickly crumbles. Please invite Mr. Hussein Askary or anyone from the TWMCC to address and discuss all the allegations mentioned in this episode. Even the great Dr. Mahathir Mohamad would support going beyond a simple "anti-muslim China" narrative.
YOU COULD HAVE MAKE A VIDEO WITH ALL THE DOC EVIDANCE THAT IS A ONLINE FREE SOURCE, NOT JUST A PLAIN INTERVIEW-AS THERE ARE MANY WHO DO NOT BELIEV AND ALWAYS NEED EVIDANCE
Uyghurs are a great people. I go to an Uyghur halal restaurant in Canada and it is some of the best food in my neighborhood. It was also an opportunity to interact with a community that are very humble, respectful and genuine. ❤
Verify. Verify. Verify
This are people best to ask about whats discussed here or as we know USA has set their sights on China. Are we being warmongered again?
Shame, it's shame that you only see Uighur Muslims suffering under PROC but fail to comment on Anglo-Saxon Corporate media. 😊
@@dannychan1342 What?
Being muslim is being a terrorist in China. China considers Islam as "mental disease". Chinese communist party has incarcerated 2 million uyghur muslims in concentration camps. Mao & XiJinping are taught to be more powerful than Allah and prophet Muhammad.
Yet no muslim country or popular organisations have the guts to call out china. China puts fear and greed in the hearts of almost
As a Muslim,
I strongly request to whole Muslim umma, let us be united,form a mechanism, and raise a strong voice on this issue.to protect all our Muslim brothers and sisters, are being persecuted .whether in China,Palestine, kashmir, or elsewhere.
This is our moral, religious obligation to do so.
Unfortunately Muslim is divided into ethnic groups and nationalism
Religion is not moral at all. Islam murders it's own a'la IRAN.
Stop comparing Kashmir to what's happening in Palestine! That's ignorance! If you people do that, you will lose the support of the Indian community. For the sake of Palestine you should stop alienating other countries who have condemned the genocide in Palestine.
@collinshardyproust my dear brother in humanity, everybody has the right to agree or disagree with me.But as for as the truth is concerned, I say it without caring about the consequences.according to reliable sources until now in kashmir more than half million peoples have been killed since 1947 by the occupied Indian forces.
@@muhammadfarooq5710 I don't think your sources are reliable, but as for the situation there, blame it on the bloody British!
It's so hartbreaking what is happening to our Uyghur brothers and sisters May Allah protect them. We need to do more to support and amplifying our Uyghur brothers' and sisters' voices.They are literally holding on to Islam while we take it for granted.
Fool, you just take care of your country, don't interfere internally with other countries
Terrible to see them bought out of poverty be allowed to practice their religion. Go and see for yourself then criticise. It's easy to get a visa to China these days, it takes just 4 days.
@@Hitchhiker007 First of all the fact that your saying it's easy to get a visa to china says it all Uyghur's are not chineas they do not live in china they live in East Turkistan. They do not need permission from anyone to practice their religion. We all know why your beloved barbaric Chineas communist reign is locking up uyghurs in concentration camps. without Uyghurs they are weak. i don't need to see for myself I belive my fellow musim uyghur brothers and sisters. who are you andyways to question the testimony of a real uyghur. We now you are scared china will not get away with this.
Angl00rgime parrots parroting US rgime propaganda. The entire world knows that there is no evidence to support this angl00rgime claim of uigyur genocide. But there is plenty of evidence of Armenian genocide by ottoman empire
Yeah, China is destroying thousands of mosques, putting hundreds of thousands into re-education centres and taking away children from Uighurs because it loves them so much!
The thousands of Uighur who fled China are just lying to make China look bad rather than fleeing for their lives.@@Hitchhiker007
If what this young man is saying is true, how is it that Uyghurs are prospering and living a good life in China; which they rightly should as citizens of China. Also, why are there so many Mosque in China and so many millions of Muslims including Uyghurs are living a good life all over China. The best way to verify if this guy is telling the truth, go to Xinjiang to see for yourself. Another point, if genocide is going on how is it that the Uyghur population grew from 5 million to more than 12 million and why are there no exodus of Uyghurs.
What an insult to the Muslim countries around the world that according to the young man, these countries can be so easily bribed by China to turn a blind eye on the so called mistreatment and genocide of the Uyghurs.
Sadly, this young man (whether intentionally or not) is sowing seeds for the western powers to try destroy one of the few countries who will stand up against the bullying tactics of the west. This young keeps bringing up Western Courts or Organisation to criminalised China. Without a doubt they will rule against China. Do not forget that they (the west) are masters of divide and rule.
As for the children, they are not taken away to be raised up by the Han family, but put into free boarding schools (with the approval and knowledge of their parents) to be given free education right up to university (if they want). Tell me that this is a bad policy.
One further point. As far as I know, China respects all religion and will never force a Muslim to eat pork. All religion are permitted in China, yes, even Christianity (which I heard so much that it is banned).
سبحان الله
It was very heart wrenching to listening this Uyghur brother . Muslims are oppressed mostly in every country. Sometimes we can see that and sometimes it’s very hiddenlly doing by oppressor ! May Allaah protect us all
Muslims would not be as repressed if they stop killing apostates, Jews, and people who criticize Islam.
@shahnazkabir1 - Wrong ! Muslims are trouble makers in every country. But their power has been broken, never to return again. God has ordained it to be so.
This was heart breaking. I’m sorry I didn’t know enough about this before and will include the Uyghurs in my prayer practice from now on.
Palestinians are not the only MUSLIMS , that us what you MuSLEMS must learn,
@@mrastazwanan8803are you Muslim? Also, not all Palestinians are Muslim.
The uyghur genocide started 20 yrs ago. I had a chinese muslim friend who used to visit xinjiang 20 yrs ago until the cgina govt blocked access to some parts which mostly likely has concentration camps.
We can just make Dua for all oppressed muslims all over the world too.
@@jannette8800 but i think most muslims do help & give aid to Palestinians in general. Afterall israel is an apartheid state : all palestinians are targeted regardless of religion. And via dna Palestinians are descended from very ancient Jews : so dna wise they are indigenous population unlike zionists who came to invade and in fact from eastern europe.
Thank you, Ustadh Jalal, to have had Brother Abdul Rashid on!
Jazakum'Allah khairann! ❤
Xinjiang is open for visitors. Instead of just listening to speakers, go there and see it with your own eyes. There are plenty of street videos in Xinjiang as well.
Basically same thing that communist did in Russia. I'm Tatar and my grand grandad was sent to prison for having a copy of Quran. Mosques were closed for many years. My grandma hide food before night when she were fasting during Ramadan. And many more. So sad they have this right know in China. But on the other hand everything is within Allahs will. May He perfect your faith during these harsh times, our Uygur brothers🙏
Then move to a Muslim country. Not a difficult thing
@@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax what are you yapping about. It is their homeland.
Ameen
@@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax kazakhstan uzbekistan is their homeland , move where?
SubhanAllah. Thank you for getting this issue upfront again.
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terrible fitna, May allah protect and preserve our brothers in turkistan
LOL obviously that's not happen. Wonder why? 🤔
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The Muslim world went to China to ask President Xi Jinping to help with Gaza. Why are they so silent on Uighurs? The answer is there is no issue with Uighurs.
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@@seaofroses8888 the only Muslim nation to condemn China is Albania. Do you think al Albania is more or less corrupt than most Muslim countries?
Money, China control the market
Thank you for speaking up. This is so ugly. The Uma must unite and stand up for all oppression and injustice.
for 75 the useless so called delusionary ummah could nt do anything , against Israhell , you think they will do anything against Chinese.
Gives a new perspective to the state of your relationship with Allah. How lax we are with our salah when our brothers are being criminalized just by being muslim.
Feel like the Ughir’s have just been forgotten about the Ummah needs to stand up for our brothers and sisters a very useful informative discussion thank you for raising this topic
Im so sad that people get united when it comes to Palestine and absolutely ignore the Uighurs. It's a shame!
Also in Kurdistan and darfur People not worried about Muslims. People want to put outside the hate against Jews. Nobody never protested against genocide of Muslims in other places.
May Allah protect our brothers & sisters in Palestine, Xinjing, Kahsmir, and everywhere else.
not xinjing ir xinjang it is Türkistan!
新疆的穆斯林过得很好，放心。不要相信这些反对中国的媒体。
May Allah free and save the Uyghur brothers and sisters from this eraser of their culture and Islam. I’ve heard many talks about the Uyghur genocide but I’ve learned a lot of new info here. China is such a corrupt place, the government is oppressing so many including their own for the purpose of a communist state. They worship their country and their religion is nationalism. I always have hope that there are humans there whose heart can break the shackles of oppression and rise up and free people from their tyranny starting with the Uyghurs first inshAllah. Thank you so much for having this conversation.
my mom lived in china during the cultural revolution and she said that it was very clear that the state itself was the religion and that anything that subverted this, be it islam, christianity or any other religion, was considered treasonous. nation-states always behave in this way in some way or another, but it's very obvious here!
My understanding is that the whole issue rooted in the Separatism not the religion.
How can religion not be relevant to this when they literally force their han men on Uighur women, ban people giving each other salaam etc?
@@anneeq008this is a lie
YES ,THE UIGHUR ISSUE NOT A RELIGION IS ILLEGAL CHINESE OCCUPATION THAT HEPPEND WITH THE HELP OF RUSSIANS IN 1949.
CHINESE HAVE TRIED TO CONQUER THE LAND OF UIGHURS IN 1735 BUT THEY COULD NOT STAY AND RULE ONLY IN 1949 AND OFICCIALLY IN 1952(BEFORE RUSSIANS WERE THERE).THE MASS ETHNIC CHINESE IMMIGARTION BEGUN.
UIGHURS DO NOT SEPARATE BEJING OR SHANHAI-UIGHURS WANT FREEDOM AND INDEPENDANCE OF UIGHUR LAND WITHINTHE NATURAL BORDER.
@@anneeq008 THIS CHINESE STATE WANTS YOU TO FOLLOW AS THE MAI REASON FOR GENOCIDE IS UIGHUR LAND
Uighurs land is illegally occupied by shinese -do not delete my comments
Thank you for spotlighting this issue. The ummah needs to feel the wounds of every muslim community worldwide.
China should send all their Muslim to your ummah.
After seeing the support of the “east turkistan” movement for Israel I find it hard to believe that the Uyghur genocide claim is true. Also we have seen reports from western journalists that have visited xinjiang and confirmed there is no genocide.im sure there has been a “re education” program as no country would allow a separatist movement to thrive.
Could you please provide evidence of their support for isreal
They deleted their own tweets but once you put it on the internet it’s there forever
Since when are western journalists reliable, just look at the way they have covered the war on Gaza.
Bottom line is that China oppresses the Uighurs.
If you don't support Uighurs just because the US supports UIghurs in its geopolitical rivalry with China then don't complain when people don't support Palestine because of geopolitics too.
We should always call out oppression, even if other countries we don't like are using it for their purposes.
Oppression is still oppression.
Muslims can't be two-faced otherwise our opponents will point it out to undermine our moral standing on Palestine too.
Their support of Israel is because they're funded by the US government. Many of these Turkistan/Uyghur separatist groups are based in the US! They're basically irredentist ethno-nationalists who make claims to all land where Uyghurs live.
This is so sad and difficult. inshaaAllah the situation of all Muslims and innocent people on Earth changes for the better soon.
Thanks for this Podcast 👍
Sudan is also going through a genocide.
What's the context of this? Is it an intra racial or tribal genocide? Who are the genocidalists??
May Allah protect the people of sudan.
Yes. But isn’t it interesting that it occurred after Trump exchanged the suppression of the democratic movement for the military government’s recognition of Israel.
Afterwards the factions of the military fell out and ethnic devisions opened.
All involved are Muslims but instead of the Akhira they are pursuing the dunya. They are backed by local powers who also only have their self-interest at heart and also are armed or financed by America.
All this would be addressed by the unity of the Ummah against the oppressors of every kind.
Its tribal, racial and religious.
But cuz they are black, don't get as much tv time as Palestine.@@anneeq008
@@anneeq008militias backed by zionist government UAE
Islam was never eradicated in Al Andalusia modern day Spain. Islam is reviving back and may Allah help the people of east Turkmenistan our brothers and sisters and any other facing oppression.
May Allah protect the lives, faith and territory of the Uighurs.Aameen
I was in China last month again. First time in China as a Muslim (Chinese revert). I noticed even in other Chinese province that there was police in front of the entrance of the mosque during jummuah. Just like the brother here said
Exactly which part of China is that?
China as an entire country is gigantic and they're anti religion as a whole, homie.
Police standing there is one thing, police arresting people without reason is another thing. Were you arrested?
The Dutcht even have their army in front of the synagogues. It's to protect them. A lot of Muslims in the
Netherlands would love to have police in front of their mosques since they are attacked the most.
Their plight is the worst because they are forced to abandon their belief.
That’s China. China has never had any kind of religion -
And I thought you loved the Chinese silly me
@@marylou3995I don't blame them we could do with some of that religion is trouble just look at the middle east
@@TomCotter-pu2ohissues in Middle East are mostly to do with the world wars and the meddling of the West. Nothing to do with religion.
@@coverupper1354 LOL convieniant excuse.
Really good timing, I've been making a point to mention the Uighurs in this current climate of (justified) Palestinian sympathy. I think the oppression is that extraordinary that people don't truly truly comprehend or believe it.
We need to organise a boycott movement for China too. However difficult it may be
The thing is, there are people like this in the world! Look at Israel , look at Ukraine, there are just evil people in the world ,who want to treat people like slaves- the Zionist work to keep people divided ,so these despots prosper.
no substantial evidences but hostile provocation 🥱
My mom has been in Xinjiang for a month and she told me Muslims are fully respected. The "victim" is totally telling a lie. As a Chinese student in a Dutch university, I think Muslims have a better life in China instead of Europe. I have several friends from Xinjiang and they are Muslims, they are very angry about Western media's rumor about their home town. By the way, in China, when we reserve a meal, people will always ask us whether there are Muslims because we don't wanna offend their eating habits unintentionally.
Girl you trippin 😂
Sad. Only Israels actions are the only ones that get Muslims/the ummah screaming on the streets yet this entire situation has been ignored and yet even after knowing no is even calling for marches....
Open up your eyes. Genocide is In Gaza not Xinjiang.
palestinans have freemovement and passports to go where they want Uighurs locked and no way out
Yes. China treats their Muslims well. The Israelis could solve Gaza by doing the same, e.g. helping Arab women to marry responsible and peaceful Jewish men.
I think i should be careful listening to the Thinking Muslim.
This is horrifying to know the minute details and the lengths the Chinese government are taking in breaking the incredibly brave Uyghur community.
muslim are hypocrite, they are busy with philistine, forget about uyghur
Ya Allah, we are blind and we are deaf. You are the all knowing, all seeing and all hearing. We are are powerless and you are all mighty. Save the oppressed, and punish the oppressors and replace those in power for ones who are just.
Did he talk about the terrorist attacks on civilians that were carried out by ETIM? Did he admit that ETIM is a terrorist group?
I have enjoyed several of your videos initially drawn by the Channel’s name, “The Thinking Muslim”. I’m not Muslim myself, but am aware that in my home country of the UK representation and the Islamic voice represented I the mainstream media are lacking in terms of amount of exposure but also, for me, they are just about always at odds with the impressions and characteristics of Muslims that have been part of my life whether superficially, as acquaintances, and, in some cases, happily as friends. Please do continue to offer a thinking Muslim perspective so that thinking people, Muslim or not, can grow in both understanding and appreciation.
Of course, even thinking people can get things wrong, and hold divergent positions and opinions, and on this particular episode I hope you will allow me to offer some observations which, although critical, hopefully may be constructive.
I watched the episode despite the title which was a fairly hardline position on what is happening in Xinjiang, even though you did say more than once that there are many voices globally that question the narrative of a genocide taking place. Your title indicated that you had made up your mind on the matter and as such I didn’t think it was going to be either balanced or nuanced. Nonetheless, it’s important to listen to people you may disagree with as much as those you may agree with. Even tough you yourself gave little to definitively indicate where you stood, the title, the use East Turkestan, the lack of any meaningful challenge to any your interviewee claimed, and the complete absence of any presentation of the many difficulties the narrative presented has, fairly or unfairly gave the impression that you have a hardline belief that genocide is taking place in Xinjiang. Of course, you have a right to hold whatever view you wish. In this particular case your apparent position seems so incongruous with a claim of being a thinking person. You failed even to ask the most basic of questions that is the key to China’s positions that its actions (whatever they may be) are to counter terrorism,,, was there as problem in China of terrorist attacks being committed by members of the Uyghur community? This would provide something that could be fact checked, rater than his personal anecdotes
International media reports
thediplomat.com/tag/china-terrorist-attacks/
Chinese documentary Fighting Terrorism in Xinjiang
th-cam.com/video/u4cYE6E27_g/w-d-xo.html
It contains terrible but compelling CCTV footage of the Imam of the Grand Kashgar Mosque being assassinated by Uyghur extremists (BBC report of the incident www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-28586426)
Also objective fact-checkable are the number of Muslims from China who undertake Hajj,
An academic paper published in Istanbul Gelisim University Journal of Social Sciences, “China’s Hajj Affairs under the Perspective of National Security”. That Uyghur Muslims make the Hajj each year is undeniable… how does this fit with the rigid narrative we heard?
dergipark.org.tr/tr/download/article-file/463351
(It is a point raised several times that too few are allowed to make the Hat, but as you will know, Saudi authorities allocate a quota to each country for the number of Pilgrims who may go)
worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/hajj-quota-by-country
Final food for thinking, Five countries have borders with Xinjiang, and yet not a single recorded account of anyone crossing the border to escape a genocide - name one genocide where there wasn’t mass internal/external displacement of large numbers of people, It at the very least raises doubt to the genocide claim.
My interest here is not to prove you wrong (how could I as I’m not 100% sure of what your opposition is) but rather to offer alternative perspectives and points that deserve at least a hearing,. Make it what you will, Sir.
Re: your last argument, I'm living in a Western country myself and two of my friends are of Uyghur descent, one of them was born in Kazachstan, the other in Kyrgyzstan. One of them recommended me a restaurant, owned by Uyhurs who only speak Russian. All of them only one generation removed from East-Turkestan. I strongly believe we simply have not been exposed to their stories yet.
There has been no genocide in any Uyghur region in fact the population has grown over the last 10 years. The Uyghur language is spoken openly and there are many many Mosques. Anyone who doubts this should go there to find out the truth. The least you could all do is talk to Uyghur on line, who live in Xinjiang and ask them what their life is like
China is friend to Muslims. As long as they keep their religion private, become patriots, and breed responsibly, Uyghurs are treated very well. What is wrong with that?
Thank you so much for this interview. I really needed to understand more about the Uyghur situation. This world is so messed up and Muslims are targeted in a way by the whole dominating world powers.
May Allah swt protect the ughyurs!!!
Ameen
Excellent episode
I really respected the fact that despite all that they’ve had to endure over the past decades they still don’t want their cause to be politically exploited by other nations. Support them because they’re suffering from oppression and injustice!
My prayers are with you East Turkistan! 🤲❤️
From what I remember, the U.N released a report saying that China may have commited crimes against humanity. So, no denying the Uyghurs are suffering, genocide in the current definition is a bit of a stretch, but cultural genocide might be more fitting.
Personally it sounds like activism for East Turkistan instead of Uyghurs alone, but still I don't get some people in the comments. Muslims are likely to be having their religion forced out of them. Innocents amongst the millions who refuse are likely to be suffering horrible things for the sake of indoctrination. How can we just brush it off? What happened to our humanity? Whether the U.S is hijacking the situation or not for political reasons, it doesn't change that China is targeting the group of people one way or another.
Thank you. THANK YOU. ☘️
More than 30 Muslim leaders all over the world had visited XINJIANG just about 2-3 years ago and were very pleased with what they saw and know.
Yes, that is because they found the Chinese money very enticing.
yes the arabs, egypt, and Pakistan love the money pf the Chinese Communist Party. @@Kashghari
So all Muslim nations (with the exception of Albania) is corrupt?
Have you been to Albania even? It is the most corrupt nation in Europe.@@Kashghari
ASK JULIAN ASSANGE WHAT IS DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM AND TRUTH?
JULIAN ASSANGE: IT'S ALL JUST NONSENSE..!!!
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
We must never be deceived by the popularity of a cause. Uyghurs matter as much as Palestine, as do the Rohingya and Kashmir.
Muslims stand by Muslims. The politics of states and their alliances shouldn’t matter at all, but how many Muslim leaders bow before China.
Their dunya is their concern. Our Ummah is about the Akhira. So what matters is not what kafir powers do, whoever they are, but can Muslims live their lives freely and can Islam thrive. If not they are our enemy, if so they are not.
There is no Uighur genocide. Not a single piece of evidence. All we have is CIA funded terror groups making allegations and using paid actors.
Thanks a lot for bringing this to our attention
One Ummah, one God, under the teaching of one Prophet,one Book and one Caliphate
Ameen
You don't have to say much, you just talk in the middle east about how Israel slaughtered Islam and how Islam slaughtered each other.
GOD WILL ALWAYS BLESS CHINA AND ALWAYS BE WITH CHINA...!!!
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
✝️🇨🇳GOD BLESS CHINA🇨🇳✝️
China is atheistic communist country there is no god there
Why you putting Christianity
May Allah protect our ummah
Ameen
I am a follower of your channel from Pakistan working for the cause of saving people from Qadiani Cult
Your work is beyond my appreciation
Plz arrange one program on that matter too
May Allah protect and bless your noble team.
Jazakum Allah khair. May Allah help our Muslim brothers and sisters all around the world. I always find it frustrating when some muslims buy into the ccp propaganda.
"GOD" hasn't done anything to help. Sky fairies tend to not help.
ok, some basic facts:
1. not all Uyghur people are muslims, and not all muslims in china are Uyghur, for example another major chinese muslim community is Hui.
2. there are nearly 25000 mosques in Xinjiang along, more than the entire US, UK, Germany, France these 4 countries combined together. as far as i know (and visited), in every major city there are mosques for religious people to go, same for churches or temples. china is huge, and it's none religious, so these locations are not like every where, but you can find them in most places.
3. Uyghur is one of many ethnic groups in Xinjiang, accounts for around 40% of total population in Xinjiang same as Han. Uyghur population increased from around 3 millions in 1949 when PRC was founded to around 12 millions now, life expectancy from around 30 years to 75 years.
4. there is no visible religious nor ethnic tensions in china, almost none issue for them, which is quite different and almost unimaginable in other places like in the west, it's very harmonious, different history, culture and values i think.
5. "East Turkestan" ideology mixed with radical islamic extremism caused terrorism in Xinjiang and china, one is trying to equate itself to all Uyghurs in china, the other one is trying to equate itself to all muslims in china. they represent neither, and china is against them both.
6. this extremism and terrorism problem in Xinjiang was once very severe, you can find reports about them online, horrifying events. china is like the safest and most peaceful place in the world, for such thing happened in china, it was unimaginable and a national shock.
7. the way china deal with this problem is sharp contract to the west, instead of wars and stigmatization of the whole islam religion and muslims, they focused on identifying and fixing the root causes: poverty, islamic extremism and political separatism indoctrination. so the solution are: help youth to learn chinese and Uyghur language, and develop professional skills, learn basic islamic knowledge, and basic political and history knowledge.
8. the west don't like muslims, and they don't like china, but they love muslims in china, and some useful idiots who knows very little about it. under trump, US removed some "East Turkestan" organizations from its official terrorist black list.
9. Xijiang is the major key hub for BRI.
10. Xinjiang made huge progress in economic and social development especially after they tackled the extremism and terrorism problems. it will certainly be even more prospers in the future.
my advise is: go to china, go to Xinjiang, see for yourself, ask local people especially Uyghur people, what have really happened and is happening, how things really were and really are.
imo, this channel to my disappointment is generally very much ill informed and miles off when it comes to china, not much better than CNN, BBC, NT and the sort. for a voice of islamic intellectual perspective, i expected it to be more objective and factual.
plus: there was a big earthquake in Gansu few days ago, it devastated the whole area and large population including many Hui muslim people, it's on the news, and the emergency and rescue are still going on, everyone can go check it out as we speak, see how chinese government and people are handling it. the unity and supports from government, society and ordinary people is unimaginable in other places like the west, just like during covid pandemic.
Thank you for telling the thruth
It is very obvious that this comment was written by Chinese officials,
Very clear Chinese propaganda, kept ready somewhere. Then copied and pasted to any kind of broadcast about this subject
CHINESE BOTS VERY ACTIVE.
UIGHURS 99% WERE MUSLIMS -TODAY THEY SCARED AND MANY ELIMINATED
HUI ETHNIC CHINESE MUSLIMS ARE ETHNIC CHINESE ,HAVE CHINESE DNA,CULTURE AND LANGAUGE,THEY SHARE ONE LAND-HUI ARE NOT THREAT TO ONE CHINA POLICY
Stop calling it Xinjiang its East Turkistan. Uyghurs are not chinease. we do not need to go to East turkistan We believe our Uyghur Muslim brothers and sisters by face value. their testimonies are enough evidence for us. no matter how many massive paraghraphes you write we will support and belive our uyghur brothers and sisters.
@@reemabdi2316cia got you on their payroll…we get it
We Muslims need to turn to Allah
Follow the Quran and the prophet Muhammad
Other wise Allah forbid we will have the same fate as the Palestinian’s and Uyghur
May Allah forgive them and bring an end to their suffering
The sahabas followed the Quran and Sunnah and yet went through famine, lost wars and many tragedies.
You need to learn Islam first before you actually speak.
Highest respect for this channel for bringing up this topic and providing a more granular understanding of the current situation.
I listened to the entire show to give this guest a fair hearing. He claims 8 million Uyghurs processed through concentration camps which is just logistically impossible. Such huge people movements in an open area like the Tamrin Basin would be easily recorded by satellite. Claiming widespread "rape" is bearing false witness and just evil. Claiming that all Islamic countries support China on the Uyghur issue just because of "economic interests" is contradictory, on the other hand he claims that China is dependent on energy from the Islamic countries (which is true), then this means that those countries have leverage on China, not just one way. Claiming that "genocide is a term created by the West", and playing with the definition to fit the supposed oppression as genocide is again disingenuous. China respects Islam and Muslims, but a red line of any secular state is that religion cannot be used as a cynical tool for separatist activity. The West constantly promotes radicalism in Xinjiang (why do you think the US stayed in Afghanistan for 20 years, right next to Xinjiang). Turkiye where this guest is living is also a secular state, and frankly no Islamic state would allow separatism either. Even the UN Human Rights report issued last year and sponsored by the West tried desperately to find evidence of widespread oppression, but could not, and only resorted to innuendos of supposed oppression. Like what Dr. Mahatir says in an earlier interview, if any Muslims have a problem with China's policies, then talk and negotiate. Don't use false accusations and black propaganda.
"talk and negotiate" haha. People are being slaughtered and tortured since 2015. I'm sick of lip service. It's time to sanction those who are responsible. When you say that taking 8 million people to concentration camps is "logistically impossible" you seem to forget what happened during the holocaust, 6 million people died in those camps, those are the ones who DIED. How many more where taken there?
Uighurs are 40 million and many camps in China itself not only in Xinjang
@@jamilbrugsen1362 There are 12 mil Uyghurs in China according to census. If you claim there are 40 mil and countless camps then please provide your source.
@@eng2271 The information you get is Chinese state source. According chinese state madia there is no chinese concentration camps , no torture , no organ harvesting .There are satellite images,testimonials,leaked documatations of chinese state about legalisation the persecution and assimilation of uighurs.
According Uighur diaspora ( there are Uighurs who worked in Xinjang government, my uncle is one of them) and accorindg all documantaions Uighurs are 40-45 million .
Chinese state present number 11-12 million Uighurs-do you still believ that CCP will tell you the truth ?
Census of China according the Uigjrs
1952year
Ethnic chinese 250.000.000
uighurs -4.500.000
2000 year
ethnic chinese -1.250.000.000
Uighurs 40-45 million
@@eng2271 another significan documentation
HRW published an artical in 2017
blood samples was taken from 17 million Uighurs in XUAR age spectrum 12-62 year, so as you can see the age spectrum age 0-12 and 62-100 is absent.
it is already more than 12 million!
Great video, thank you so much for bringing light to such an important topic!
100%
This was a funny interview!
I am supporting Palestine because it is a cause for the freedom from colonialism and occupation.
What china is doing the right thing. Not allowing kids to be religious bigots when they grow old.
Not supporting some religious separatist mocement.
So you're just okay with forcing atheism on everyone. Being a Muslim does not make you a bigot. Atheists can be bigots.
If you support what china does means you just hate Jews and not worried about Muslims lives. Sorry, you are showing hipocrisy
I was in southeast China and walking around a mosque complex. I heard from an upstairs room, children reciting the Quran, which made be feel very happy.
This was before Xi but are ethnic Chinese Muslims (Hui) treated differently from Uyghurs?
Every single person in China is repressed in some way. The CCP runs a one party totalitarian state with little regard to personal rights.
However, there are degrees of repression. The Hui are ethnic Chinese Muslims. They have a lot in common by race and culture. So they eat some similar foods and have common dress etc. So they aren't seen as a threat in the same way Turkic Uighurs are. The Uighurs are also seen as seperatists. And the more the Chinese repress the Uighuras, the more seperaratist the Uighurs will naturally become.
The Hui muslims have not been involved in activities of separatism . And they are ethnically Chinese muslim .
Xinjiang has issue of religion and also ethnic differences . And the separatism issue is also there.
So Hui are treated differently compared to uyghurs . For the CCP the Hui are good muslim who serve the nation but the uyghurs are bad Muslim who wants to break up the nation .
Everybody dies in the end. No matter who you pray too.
Thank you for this valuable opportunity to talk about plight of my community.
Assalamualikum, Jazakum allah khayr usdath Jalal and brother Rachid for this informative interview, the last question was definitely painful to wrap your mind around, but brother Rachid gave beautiful answer that only shows his level of imane May Allah bless him and accept from him Ameen , and help our brothers and sisters in east Turkestan through this hard times.
قال الله تعلى في كتابه العزيز ( انا نحن نزلنا الذكر وانا له لحافظون)
Allah took upon himself to protect this religion it will always be there , but it’s upon Muslims to protect each other.
Ameen
Very poor. You didnt even attempt to push back on his claims- Islam in China is alive and well and far from being stamped out.
Poor journalism at best, a dangerous attempt to ignite Sinophobia among Muslims at worst
The eyes are useless when the heart is blind
Exactly
0:15 The biggest muslim ethnic group are the Hui muslim,10 Million, the chinese government doesnt bother them 1 bit.
I highly doubt there's a genocide going on in China. This is a psy-ops by the west.
Exactly baised and all lies.
There are definitely independent sources out there that this channel should have researched before having this guy on. This plays right into Western governments hands - to divide and conquer.
Typical propaganda that we had seen before and it proved to be Propaganda.
Good luck.
As a Christian, I always pray for the uyguhr people, and I have signed petitions -- I always think, one day it may be me, and I would like to think someone would care enough to sign a petition for me - people must stick to gether . .
why do you care about non christians?
@@jj-yi1newhy shouldn’t the person care? Do you think Jesus would accept oppression?
Selective praying don’t help. You probably agnostic or even rooting for the Israelis which means you just don’t like the Chinese. We get it, it’s not a Muslim thing.
Ppl plz leave more comments, it helps such content shared faster!
Ameen
I strongly believe the information discussed here needs to be verified. I hope it is not more western propaganda.
Don't forget there are Uyghurs in Guantanamo too...
May Allah(swt) protect our brothers and sisters
Ameen
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Freedom, independence and self governing for East Turkestan, Tibet, Manchuria, Southern Mongolia, Yellow Uyghur Gansu, Kazakh Aksay, Koknoor, Guangxi Zhuang Region, Yunnan, Ningxia Hui region, Korean Liaoning.
Viva ......
may Allah help the muslims to stand up for oppression no matter who it is against. this is pure evil, why isn't enough muslims speaking out against this , our prophet commands us to stand up and speak out against oppression no matter who it is against. what is wrong with our ummah may Allah help us. Ameen
Ameen
the Palestinians at least have the world talking, no one seems to be talking about the Uyghurs.
and have free movements.uighurs have been locked no passports and uighurs usually sent back to china
it feels to me like there needs to be some kind of central islamist organisation that keeps tabs on all crimes against the people. A site where all Muslims can go on and see exactly what is happening and where. Because Muslims are being oppressed in many places. Palestinians are the only ones that seem to get constant coverage. Also its an argument the zionists and enemies of islam make, they say to us what about the Uygurs, meaning your silent on them, why you care so much about these muslims or those muslims. Makes us look like agenda driven hypocrites. @@jamilbrugsen1362
To anybody reading this comment, I request you all to watch till the end. That's the least we can do.
Why are you silent about Gaza's Palestinians suffering!
@@dannychan1342 I support the Palestinians in their resistance against the Zionists just as I support the Uyghurs in their resistance against Chinese Imperialism.
This person is lying and very irresponsible. If Xinjiang suffered genocide like Gaza, then people would have fled to other countries long ago.
This horrible 😢
May Allah protect our people in every part of the world. ❤ JazakAllah khair The Thinking Muslim for bringing these facts to us.
This is so heartbreaking!! Is there something we can do ?😢
Boycott Chinese products. Amplify Uygur activist voices through social media. Donate to Uyghur charities.
JazakAllah khair!
Thank you for this podcast!!!
thanks for sharing!
China can be none religious but should respect those who are and leave them be
UIGHURS WANT MORE INDEPENDANCE THAN RELIGION
Why
Why not?
i did not know so much from what he talked about, may allah make it easy on them and grant this ummah victory over the evil doers and opressors amin
Excellent work, keep it up.
Allahumma barik, may Allah swt help the uyghur brothers and sisters
Ameen
If your channel is indeed thinking, you should shout louder about what's happening in Gaza rather than giving platform to a non existent genocide in Xinjiang... go visit Xinjiang and compare that to Gaza. Please think, thinking Muslim...
This channel has covered and raised awarness for palestine so don't even try that weak tactic. There is no such thing as Xinjiang It's East Turkistan Get it right. Once again we don't need to visit East Turkistan we belive our Uyghur brothers and sisters. their countless testimonies are enough evidence for us to support them. So keep crying keep denying the truth. China's time will be up and EastTurkistan will be liberated and free from the evil CCP Reighm.
It is not your business
May Allah unite the Ummah and support it in freeing our people everywhere from oppression, may He make the revival of Islam easy and allow us to visit our brothers and sisters everywhere without resitrctions
So sad to see
Salute to you for being steadfast
When I was listening the conversation, wife came, saw the guest, and asked "Is he uzbek? He looks like us"...
There is no way to call uyg'urs as "chinese muslims". Yes, definitely they are us. Their pain is our pain. May Allah ease OUR pain and suffering.
You are all Turks. Uygur and Uzbek are close even in dialect!
exactly it baffles me when some people refer to uyghurs as chinese.
what changed is all the muslims leaders have sold out. May Allah help them. the quran talks about this oppressing your brothers and sisters with the enemy. What will they tell Allah, do they think we are all not returning back to their lord
This is all very much exaggerated at best, there was a security situation in Xinjiang with questionable actions yes, but ultimately the Chinese govt is acting in the best interest of its citizens, including Uyghurs. their living standards improved massively and they (as an ethnic minority) were exempt from the one-child policy, so how is this "genocide"? The Uyghur language can be found on every Chinese Yuan bill, it's even on the national money, so how is the "culture and language" being erased?.this gentleman is fabricating lies to push for an ethno-nationalist agenda of seperatism, enthusiastically supported by western imperialism . Islam in China isn't suppressed. there's flourishing muslim communities across the country. please see through Amerikkka's propaganda brothers and sisters. Amerikkka doesn't care about muslims so ask yourselves why is Washington promoting this cause so much?
chinese agent!
smart people
Really sad 😢
Nice to listen to various people views. It's happening in every nation.
And...if this guest was so oppressed in Xinjiang, and only left in 2016(?), where did he learn to speak English so fluently?
All countries teach English in schools why are people so surprised when immigrants speak English well
How does learning English mean theyre not oppressed ? What's this logic?
unfortunately every muslim nations are silent on this issue cos they r too afraid of emperor xi 🇨🇳
Ecconomy of enemies not even once.
China isn’t our friend. America isn’t our friend. Russia isn’t our friend.
Muslim is friend to Muslim and whoever prefers kufr is of kufr.
May Allah help uygurs ❤❤❤
What kind of Muslim doesn’t return the salam?
It not work in Africa with the European colonists inshallah it will not work for cc either love and respect from Somali