The MD version was made by doing reverse engineering from the Arcade version. The dev got the MAME set of the game and used Genecyst to compare the code between the two versions.
Explain this please."MAME" is a program not roms, and the arcade Frogger was not a working MAME project until much after the MD version of the game was made. Now if you meant it used the same rom files as the Arcade then yes/no, the Genesis version used original files from the original creator Konami for reference only. It used the TI-SN76489 to emulate the sounds the AY8910 did on the arcade. Genecyst was used partly to emulate some things.
The Atari 2600 "Official Version" was released on cassette tape for the Starpath Supercharger addon. Besides the "convenience" of tape loading, the Supercharger had also extra RAM on board which made the more advanced game possible. Apparently, the reason why this version exists is because the original Parker Brothers license covered just ports of the game on cartridge.
Howdy, some lovely folks sent this to me on a link to our other Frogger toons here on YT, I along with Paul Arnold wrote the music to the PlayStation version of Frogger, the simply boppy remake of the frogger theme tops and tails your video, thanks Retro Core for the kind words!
Frogger is one of the earliest games I remember playing in my childhood on the C64. Great fun at the time. Strangely enough there were two different games on the breadbin, one by Sierra which is shown here and one by Parker Brothers. They are very similar but not identical. There was also a homebrew attempt made a few years ago which aimed to replicate the arcade game to the extent of mimicking a vertical aspect ratio. There seems to be a lot of love for this game, with many ports and sequels over the decades. But to be honest I'd rather leave its clunky gameplay in the past.
The second Spectrum version has corrupted graphics due to it being a game written on a 48k machine in BASIC being run in 128k mode. The Spectrum had user defined graphics that could be assigned to keys A to T. In 128k mode it only went up to R, the last two being used for the new 128k commands PLAY [for using the new AY chip] and SPECTRUM [to force the computer into 48k mode], hence the dodgy display. There are dozens of Frogger clones on the 8 bit machines, some of which are probably good and lots of which are probably arse.
"the bbc muicro could've handled a farily good frogger port!" just look at the port by retro software. it's near arcade perfect. he also did ports of carnival and astro blaster.
One frogger port i'm proud of and its hopper on the bbc micro *Thanks To Rokoder For the Beeb Emulator he made on scratch, but has to run on turbowarp to run well* My bbc games were limited and i had other ports with odd names (Snapper/Pacman Mr Ee!/Mr Do! Pengi/Pengo And some others)
My car has given up on me via a cambelt slip...hey its my life, not yours - but its severally made things extremely difficult and setting off a savage depression....but whats this i see? B.O.T.P....ahhhh...escapism is amazing - so thank you!
You forgot the version of Frogger I caused in a ditch today while I was weed wacking! Seriously though, that's a lot of Frogger. Now I'm wondering as much as I played the Arcade game why I don't own a single home port. This vid made me want to play it again, mission accomplished.
Always loved Frogger. The 2600 Parker Bros. version is definitely the port I played the most, though I have fond memories of the Colecovision port, too. I definitely would've included the Colecovision port instead of talking about obscure unofficial ports...
Honorable mention: Frogger Arcade, released in 2016 for the Commodore 64, developed by Digital Monastery and Hokuto Force. It's a pity that it wasn't in your port list.
Thanks, Solar Flare, but can the drama. I simply missed it. It's kind of ridiculous how some people just can't be civil anymore, particularly on the internet.
The port to the Amstrad Plus machines (GX4000) is arcade perfect, but I have heard it's because it uses the rom and it interprets it for the amstrad. which is still pretty damn cool. I would link to footage but most have bad voice overs and swearing and stuff.
@Diskun Is that the same they put in the Atari Flashbacks to avoid music copyright infringements? By the way, the GBA version is not an NES ROM, it is a port.
@@OM19_MO79 He's referring to a 2005 Majesco release of Frogger for the NES that was released on a bunch of officially licensed plug and play machines that used a NOAC cpu. Not the GBA version but the GBA version was released around the same time.
The 2nd Spectrum version will load correctly if you load it in 48k mode. I suspect this version is a mixture of BASIC and machine code and has used the BASIC UDG's for graphics. There is a known bug/feature where some of the UDG's in 128 BASIC are replaced with tokens for the new 128 BASIC commands, You can quite clear see SPECTRUM and PLAY on the screen. These are commands that don't exist in 48k BASIC so the game will display properly if you load it in 48k mode.
"YOU MISSED THE [insert Frogger port here] VERSION" Ok, but for real, Frogger is one of those games that can't be ignored. It was parodied everywhere in stuff like western cartoons, movies, and even other games. Likewise, it also seemed to be ported to a LOT of systems. So much that Retro Core seemed to be unable to play even most of them all too! Still, I'm glad you made this video!
The MD version is very close to the original arcade game. The MD version is the only version i own for now. I think i first played the game on Game Boy for the first time in the 90's.
With the 5200 version, you had to press fire to move. It's awkward to say the least, but I'm sure it had to do with the awful analog controller the 5200 had.
The 5200 version has such a dumb-arsed control setup. You have to hold the bottom fire button and THEN move the analog joystick. I believe an alternate option allows you to use 2/4/6/8 as movement keys on the keypad. Also, next week I'll try to record and upload the Parker Brothers version for the C64. It's a bit different from the Sierra On-Line port shown, but pretty good for such a rare cartridge version. Why do the third party C64 games have to be so damn expensive?
Another great episode for a classic game. I've never played an actual Frogger arcade machine, though I'm sure I've seen them, but I did have the Parker Bros. Atari 2600 release and played tons of it. I have to admit that I enjoyed Activision's psuedo-rip-off, Freeway, a lot more back then. However, these days, I can't seem to get into playing Freeway when I've loaded it up, but 2600 Frogger is still fun today. My cousin had Frogger II, but I remember hating it for some reason. I also bought the Genesis port of Frogger when it was new for really cheap, and I thought it was very nice. I'm kind of glad I didn't get the SNES though. The only other Frogger game I've played is "Frogger 2" on the Dreamcast, which I enjoyed but haven't touched in forever.
I think the 5200 has you have to hold a fire button along with a joystick direction press to actually hop. Probably to compensate the non-centering analog joystick.
Really a pity that there are no versions for Intellivision and Colecovision, which in my opinion have a much greater "historical" value than the various homebrew presented. The Inty version was really horrible, I think it was the first Parker game ever for Intellivision, but it had lousy graphics and bad controls. The Coleco version, on the other hand, was the best available of the early generations of consoles and computers.
About the PC Version, I think you meant to say it was a Booter disc. The PC 5150 didn't really have an OS of its own. IIRC it would just boot to basic if you didn't have a hard drive with an OS installed or a floppy inserted. The GBC version looks to be just a straight colorization of the original GB version. They didn't seem to do anything else. Among its contemporaries, the Genesis and X68000 can go 1 and 2, with the Atari 8-bit taking up the rear. I'm kinda surprised at the lack of a version for the NES.
The Snes/SFC Frogger kinda looks like it was made on a Net Yaroze PS1 Homebrew Kit. It has those cheap looking graphics and soundeffects I remember from playing all those Net Yaroze games on demodiscs :D The real PS1 game though I do remember playing on a demo disc back in the day and I enjoyed it. Maybe I should try to find it and finally play the full game.
I'm not the biggest Frogger fan, but I do remember playing the 2600 Parker Bros. version as a kid along with the Intellivision version as some of my earliest game memories, and earlier this year before all the crap hit, I found the official Frogger Plug N' Play, and my great nephew who's 18 months old loves watching me play it, so i guess there is that lol.
@@RetroCore You have showed the first Sierra version of Frogger: www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-frogger_6780.html This is the second Sierra version, which has a 2 player option: www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-frogger_12181.html and this is the Parker Brothers cartridge version, looks similar to the first Sierra version but plays differently: www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-frogger_5990.html
There's also a version of Frogger for the C64 done by Digital Monastery that is a little closer to the Arcade, hence they called it Frogger Arcade. Nice version; you can find it here: csdb.dk/release/?id=152376
The 2nd ZX spectrum version needed to be loaded in 48k mode - the issues with the screen being covered in PLAY and SPECTRUM keywords is due to the 128k spectrum mode not being 100% compatible. Still looked crap though. I've not looked but I presume there are better clones on the speccy than those two.
@@RetroCore i forgot to say! The Ps1 version and PC versions have a modding community called Highway Frogs! Making new levels for frogger 97 new models and new songs!
yes Frogger is such a games that got multiply ports to the same machines. examples, there presents two official versions for the C64 and 3 versions for the Atari 8-bit. Also homebrew versions for Amstrad (CPC+ only), BBCMicro and C64 (Frogger 64 arcade) exists all a version pretty close ports of the arcade. Im do must say, im do most like that c64 version shown here. Its not a bad effort at all, its nice!
Ah yes, I know about that one. I toyed with the idea of including it but in the end I left it out since the name isn't Frogger. I let Froggie pass since it was close enough.
The Game Gear version was cancelled because Sega thought they still had the rights of Frogger, but in reality they didn’t. Konami got mad about it and ordered Sega to cancel the game
I'm pretty sure there are two versions of Frogger for the Atari 8-bit. My copy looks exactly like the 5200 version, rather than the one you had featured here.
Maybe on of the most ported games of all time?? I'm sure. That's a pity Game Gear version isn't finished Love Megadrive version for so much close to the arcade and PlayStation one is an amazing example of a remaster. Good BotP!
Hello! That second ZX Spectrum version with the "PLAY SPECTRUM" written across the screen? That's a known compatibility issue with some older titles when running them on a 128K machine. On those machines if you drop into 48K BASIC and load the game from there, you'll find it works correctly. Or just emulate a 48K machine in your case. Cheers!
Kind of a shame to see a deadline result in a less-than-complete video, especially when this video will stand here for the next decade. Even more ironic how so many games and ports ended up crap due to deadlines when most gamers would've rather waited for it to be done right. I still love these but had to share my thoughts on the tradeoff between deadlines and completeness.
I have Frogger for the Atari 5200. The weird thing about it was that you had to hold down one of the side buttons while using the joystick to make the frog move. I had never played a version of Frogger that required you to do that. Why did the developer (Parker Bros) do that? Have no idea but given the placement of the side buttons it really took away from the experience IMO.
There were two versions released for the C64, and you picked the Sierra version when I thought it would end up being the Parker Bros version like most of the other 8Bit versions featured. Yes they are different and honestly think the PB version is better. Comes about because arcade rights holders back then sold the magnetic (tape/disk) rights separately to cartridge.
The PC version of the PlayStation game the music doesn't play on Windows 10 though you can rip the music and play it as if they were standard MP3s also having 4 player split screen is nice plus lan play Also they made an entire sequel based off of the fact that sometimes you step on a crocodile in the water section of the first area (retro levels) that is based off the arcade game
Even the C64 version is good, I'm pretty sure that a competent developer can get an almost arcade version out of the machine, reading a commentary I found that there is a homebrew version, and gonna check it out!
What I should have said was this used the base PC meaning that the game was executed upon booting the PC. It didn't run within Dos unlike later games which were loaded within Dos and later on within Windows.
bro! Mega drive and snes are 16 bit consoles right? the arcade wasn't 16 bit. people wanted everything to be looking 16 bit if it's going to be on genesis and snes. so....i like how the snes looks. it looks more detailed and it makes sense for people to have a 16 bit port.
also u missed out on tha PC-CD ROM version of Frogger which was like tha PS1 version but alot easier to play! good luck gettin' tha music to work on any windows newer than 98! it did came out 1 year before tha PS1 version however
The MD version was made by doing reverse engineering from the Arcade version. The dev got the MAME set of the game and used Genecyst to compare the code between the two versions.
Explain this please."MAME" is a program not roms, and the arcade Frogger was not a working MAME project until much after the MD version of the game was made.
Now if you meant it used the same rom files as the Arcade then yes/no, the Genesis version used original files from the original creator Konami for reference only. It used the TI-SN76489 to emulate the sounds the AY8910 did on the arcade.
Genecyst was used partly to emulate some things.
@@S.Madman he wanted to say mame rom set of frogger, he just missed the word Rom
That's cool. Also explains why it's so close.
So, the MD version was supposed to be disqualified, because it was emulation, right?
@@kaboomgamer333 Not emulation. It had to be reprogrammed despite having the assets from ROM
The Atari 2600 "Official Version" was released on cassette tape for the Starpath Supercharger addon. Besides the "convenience" of tape loading, the Supercharger had also extra RAM on board which made the more advanced game possible. Apparently, the reason why this version exists is because the original Parker Brothers license covered just ports of the game on cartridge.
The frogger tape can cost over $100. I know because somehow I lost my friend's copy. Expensive mistake.
Howdy, some lovely folks sent this to me on a link to our other Frogger toons here on YT, I along with Paul Arnold wrote the music to the PlayStation version of Frogger, the simply boppy remake of the frogger theme tops and tails your video, thanks Retro Core for the kind words!
You guys did a great job. The music on the PlayStation game really felt at home and suited the game perfectly.
Retro Core Cheers, ‘twas fun to do, my that was 23 years ago!
Wow, the Atari 5200 emulator you used is so accurate that emulates the 5200 controllers perfectly, this is why you were not able to play it.
Yeah, found out you need to press the button to move. That's really dumb.
I remember playing the PC version of the ps1 version back in the day! It was my first introduction to frogger. Now I want to try to play it again :)
Frogger is one of the earliest games I remember playing in my childhood on the C64. Great fun at the time. Strangely enough there were two different games on the breadbin, one by Sierra which is shown here and one by Parker Brothers. They are very similar but not identical. There was also a homebrew attempt made a few years ago which aimed to replicate the arcade game to the extent of mimicking a vertical aspect ratio. There seems to be a lot of love for this game, with many ports and sequels over the decades. But to be honest I'd rather leave its clunky gameplay in the past.
There was a Colecovision port! It's a very solid port from Parker Bros.
The second Spectrum version has corrupted graphics due to it being a game written on a 48k machine in BASIC being run in 128k mode. The Spectrum had user defined graphics that could be assigned to keys A to T. In 128k mode it only went up to R, the last two being used for the new 128k commands PLAY [for using the new AY chip] and SPECTRUM [to force the computer into 48k mode], hence the dodgy display. There are dozens of Frogger clones on the 8 bit machines, some of which are probably good and lots of which are probably arse.
Frogger is that kind of game that has so many ports that we could call this episode "Nightmare Of The Ports"
Lol, indeed. Still got so many more to cover.
BTW, Frogger was the final official release for both the Genesis (Megadrive) AND the SNES in North America.
"the bbc muicro could've handled a farily good frogger port!"
just look at the port by retro software. it's near arcade perfect. he also did ports of carnival and astro blaster.
Acornsoft's Hopper from BITD is better too. Did the BBC ever get an official version of Frogger?
There is a port to the Magnavox/Phillips Odyssey2 that is very peculiar, as it divides the stage into two screens.
Wow, now that is odd. Would like to see that one.
I didn't expect Frogger being the last game released in both the Mega Drive and SNES in North America, what a odd way to finish a console's life lol
0:00 Intro
0:31 Arcade
1:53 MSX
2:49 VIC20 (Parker bros.)
3:14 A2600 (Parker bros.)
3:54 A2600 (SEGA/Starpath)
4:32 5200
4:58 7800 (Froggie)
5:43 800
6:28 Apple 2
7:12 BBC micro (A&F)
8:04 C64 (Sierra on line/SEGA)
8:44 GBC
9:20 MD/SG
9:57 SNES
10:37 GAME GEAR (Unreleased)
11:58 atari st
12:44 X680000
13:29 Zx Speccy (A&F)
14:02 Zx Speccy (Terminal soft)
14:43 IBM COMPATIBLE/Dos (Frogger
Jr)
15:18 PS1
16:22 Compare all
17:29 End
Thanks, I'll add these to the video when I get to my PC. 👍
Possibly my favorite arcade game of all time.
One frogger port i'm proud of and its hopper on the bbc micro *Thanks To Rokoder For the Beeb Emulator he made on scratch, but has to run on turbowarp to run well* My bbc games were limited and i had other ports with odd names (Snapper/Pacman Mr Ee!/Mr Do! Pengi/Pengo And some others)
My car has given up on me via a cambelt slip...hey its my life, not yours - but its severally made things extremely difficult and setting off a savage depression....but whats this i see? B.O.T.P....ahhhh...escapism is amazing - so thank you!
The Atari 2600 version will always be my favorite.
I use to have a pet frog growing up Mark. We named him Frogger after we played the Colecovision version so many times. 8^)
Anthony..
There's also a pretty decent version of Frogger for the TI 99 4A. :)
I grew up with Frogger on the Colecovision.
That's a nice version. I'll be covering that in part two of this video.
Sadness over the ColecoVision port not being featured. Still a pretty awesome video.
Maybe in part 2 sometime in the future 👍😉
You forgot the version of Frogger I caused in a ditch today while I was weed wacking!
Seriously though, that's a lot of Frogger. Now I'm wondering as much as I played the Arcade game why I don't own a single home port. This vid made me want to play it again, mission accomplished.
had the vic20 version - that death noise is ingrained on my brain XD
Always loved Frogger. The 2600 Parker Bros. version is definitely the port I played the most, though I have fond memories of the Colecovision port, too. I definitely would've included the Colecovision port instead of talking about obscure unofficial ports...
Part two my friend 😉👍
Now I know what I'm buying next for the Switch.
Amstrad CPC Plus has an arcade perfect homebrew version.
Cool. I've not seen that one.
@@RetroCore Funny how you think the SNES version is a howbrew, considering that the Game Boy version is a demake of the SNES version.
Honorable mention: Frogger Arcade, released in 2016 for the Commodore 64, developed by Digital Monastery and Hokuto Force. It's a pity that it wasn't in your port list.
That's very nice version will be featured in part 2.
My buddy George Costanza was really good at the arcade version of Frogger. He even had the high score on the machine :)
Where are the Odyssey 2 and Intellivision versions, along with absolutely stellar Colecovision port?
I feel like no one has the ability to read anymore and that SCARES me...
There's a part 2 coming next week.
Thanks, Solar Flare, but can the drama. I simply missed it.
It's kind of ridiculous how some people just can't be civil anymore, particularly on the internet.
The port to the Amstrad Plus machines (GX4000) is arcade perfect, but I have heard it's because it uses the rom and it interprets it for the amstrad. which is still pretty damn cool. I would link to footage but most have bad voice overs and swearing and stuff.
No worries. I'll add it to part 2
There is a homebrew port of Frogger for the NES.
@Diskun Is that the same they put in the Atari Flashbacks to avoid music copyright infringements?
By the way, the GBA version is not an NES ROM, it is a port.
@@OM19_MO79 He's referring to a 2005 Majesco release of Frogger for the NES that was released on a bunch of officially licensed plug and play machines that used a NOAC cpu. Not the GBA version but the GBA version was released around the same time.
The 2nd Spectrum version will load correctly if you load it in 48k mode.
I suspect this version is a mixture of BASIC and machine code and has used the BASIC UDG's for graphics.
There is a known bug/feature where some of the UDG's in 128 BASIC are replaced with tokens for the new 128 BASIC commands, You can quite clear see SPECTRUM and PLAY on the screen. These are commands that don't exist in 48k BASIC so the game will display properly if you load it in 48k mode.
"YOU MISSED THE [insert Frogger port here] VERSION"
Ok, but for real, Frogger is one of those games that can't be ignored. It was parodied everywhere in stuff like western cartoons, movies, and even other games. Likewise, it also seemed to be ported to a LOT of systems. So much that Retro Core seemed to be unable to play even most of them all too!
Still, I'm glad you made this video!
I'll be following this video up with another covering more ports.
There was a Seinfeld episode based around frogged. It was funny as hell, as George tried in vein to keep his high score.
A much better version for the BBC micro was Acornsoft’s own ‘Hopper’.
As the PS1 Frogger progresses, it takes you across many lands, even the sky! Lots of fun.
I never did get around to trying the sequel, Frogger 2.
It's incredibly tough on the later levels but still a great version it a tough challenge is what you're after.
The MD version is very close to the original arcade game. The MD version is the only version i own for now. I think i first played the game on Game Boy for the first time in the 90's.
Mark "Retro" Core after making 69420 hit pieces on funny frog arcade game:
With the 5200 version, you had to press fire to move. It's awkward to say the least, but I'm sure it had to do with the awful analog controller the 5200 had.
No wonder I couldn't get the controls to work. What a stupid idea.
anyone besides me remeber in the arcade game based cartoon Saturday supercade the main character of frogger was a news reporter?
The 5200 version has such a dumb-arsed control setup. You have to hold the bottom fire button and THEN move the analog joystick. I believe an alternate option allows you to use 2/4/6/8 as movement keys on the keypad.
Also, next week I'll try to record and upload the Parker Brothers version for the C64. It's a bit different from the Sierra On-Line port shown, but pretty good for such a rare cartridge version. Why do the third party C64 games have to be so damn expensive?
Considering that there are only about three working 5200 controllers in existence, does it really matter what the controls are :)
Another great episode for a classic game. I've never played an actual Frogger arcade machine, though I'm sure I've seen them, but I did have the Parker Bros. Atari 2600 release and played tons of it. I have to admit that I enjoyed Activision's psuedo-rip-off, Freeway, a lot more back then. However, these days, I can't seem to get into playing Freeway when I've loaded it up, but 2600 Frogger is still fun today. My cousin had Frogger II, but I remember hating it for some reason. I also bought the Genesis port of Frogger when it was new for really cheap, and I thought it was very nice. I'm kind of glad I didn't get the SNES though. The only other Frogger game I've played is "Frogger 2" on the Dreamcast, which I enjoyed but haven't touched in forever.
Every time i cross a road in real life, a little thought goes out to frogger.
Sounds like the Frogger episode in Seinfeld
I’m shocked that there was not a port of Frogger on the NES/Famicom or Sega SG-1000 or Mark III/Master System.
If it is from 2005 it is definitely not official.
Coder, Ed English, wrote the 2600 version in just 16 weeks.
It's me or atari computer uses the "barney" theme ? Haha, nice video btw :D
The Barney Opening Theme was the same tune as “Yankee Doodle”.
If you listen closely you'll notice that most of these used two different soundtracks and I have no idea why
I think the 5200 has you have to hold a fire button along with a joystick direction press to actually hop. Probably to compensate the non-centering analog joystick.
the guy who made frogger on the bbc micro is Nigel alderton, of chucky egg fame (he also programmed the c64 port of ghosts n goblins)
I guess he was either totally stoned or drunk when he made the BBC game.
Really a pity that there are no versions for Intellivision and Colecovision, which in my opinion have a much greater "historical" value than the various homebrew presented. The Inty version was really horrible, I think it was the first Parker game ever for Intellivision, but it had lousy graphics and bad controls. The Coleco version, on the other hand, was the best available of the early generations of consoles and computers.
The Intellivision version was bad although not as bad as Donkey Kong. The colecovision had a great port.
When part 2 is made they'll be included.
Great video!! I loved Frogger back in the day!! Is it just me or the trucks in the BBC Micro port look a bit phallic!??!!?🤣👍
About the PC Version, I think you meant to say it was a Booter disc. The PC 5150 didn't really have an OS of its own. IIRC it would just boot to basic if you didn't have a hard drive with an OS installed or a floppy inserted.
The GBC version looks to be just a straight colorization of the original GB version. They didn't seem to do anything else.
Among its contemporaries, the Genesis and X68000 can go 1 and 2, with the Atari 8-bit taking up the rear. I'm kinda surprised at the lack of a version for the NES.
You are correct 👍
The Snes/SFC Frogger kinda looks like it was made on a Net Yaroze PS1 Homebrew Kit. It has those cheap looking graphics and soundeffects I remember from playing all those Net Yaroze games on demodiscs :D The real PS1 game though I do remember playing on a demo disc back in the day and I enjoyed it. Maybe I should try to find it and finally play the full game.
The snes version of fogger is the final snes game in the us
@TrueSinister yeah
Sad that the last game was one of the worst 😢
I'm not the biggest Frogger fan, but I do remember playing the 2600 Parker Bros. version as a kid along with the Intellivision version as some of my earliest game memories, and earlier this year before all the crap hit, I found the official Frogger Plug N' Play, and my great nephew who's 18 months old loves watching me play it, so i guess there is that lol.
I do like the Vectrex homebrew!
I'd love to try that on a real vectrex.
Another interesting Frogger Fact: Frogger was the last official North American Genesis release.
There are 3 (!) different Atari 8-bit versions. 1 cartridge version by Parker and 2 different "Official" versions by Sierra.
I'll see if I can find the others for the second part of this video.
@@RetroCore You have showed the first Sierra version of Frogger: www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-frogger_6780.html This is the second Sierra version, which has a 2 player option: www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-frogger_12181.html and this is the Parker Brothers cartridge version, looks similar to the first Sierra version but plays differently: www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-frogger_5990.html
There's also a version of Frogger for the C64 done by Digital Monastery that is a little closer to the Arcade, hence they called it Frogger Arcade. Nice version; you can find it here: csdb.dk/release/?id=152376
Re the 5200 version - you may have to press fire 1 or 2 while holding joystick direction to jump.
That's right. A few people mentioned that in the comments. Such stupid idea for the controls.
So much frogger you had to play through.
Yep, too much.
The 2nd ZX spectrum version needed to be loaded in 48k mode - the issues with the screen being covered in PLAY and SPECTRUM keywords is due to the 128k spectrum mode not being 100% compatible. Still looked crap though. I've not looked but I presume there are better clones on the speccy than those two.
Ah, thanks for the info 👍 I wasn't aware of that.
Game Gear version looks neat.
the Mega Drive version should have added extras instead of only the arcade version.
I bought the PlayStation version of Frogger two weeks ago! Great video! I still love the ps1 version ^_^
I like the PlayStation game. Its how a classic should be remade.
@@RetroCore i forgot to say! The Ps1 version and PC versions have a modding community called Highway Frogs! Making new levels for frogger 97 new models and new songs!
yes Frogger is such a games that got multiply ports to the same machines. examples, there presents two official versions for the C64 and 3 versions for the Atari 8-bit. Also homebrew versions for Amstrad (CPC+ only), BBCMicro and C64 (Frogger 64 arcade) exists all a version pretty close ports of the arcade. Im do must say, im do most like that c64 version shown here. Its not a bad effort at all, its nice!
What a lot of Froggers!!! love that PS tune though- that cheered me up :)
You missed my first encounter with Frogger, but no hard feelings since it wasn't even Frogger but Jumpin' Jack for C64.
Ah yes, I know about that one. I toyed with the idea of including it but in the end I left it out since the name isn't Frogger. I let Froggie pass since it was close enough.
As already said the bbc had acornsofts hopper which was excellent
I have something maybe even better for the BBC coming in part 2.😉
That was the last game ever released on the SNES and Genesis outside of Japan.
A very sad way to end the consoles.
@@RetroCore Even sadder was the last game on the Gameboy Color. Harry Potter: Prisoner of Azkaban.
There was 2 GB/GBC versions of Frogger - the Majesco one and the Konami one on the Konami Collection Vol. 2
Thanks for the input. I'll see if I can add that to the second video.
From the golden age of arcadegames when it was simple, innocent and fun😀👍
Didn't see the Mega Drive/Genesis version at the end in the side-by-side. Did I miss it?
The Game Gear version was cancelled because Sega thought they still had the rights of Frogger, but in reality they didn’t. Konami got mad about it and ordered Sega to cancel the game
Ah, good old Konami. They could have made a bit of money by licensing the name to Sega for this game. Oh well.
I'm pretty sure there are two versions of Frogger for the Atari 8-bit. My copy looks exactly like the 5200 version, rather than the one you had featured here.
There quite possibly is.
Maybe on of the most ported games of all time?? I'm sure.
That's a pity Game Gear version isn't finished
Love Megadrive version for so much close to the arcade and PlayStation one is an amazing example of a remaster.
Good BotP!
Hello! That second ZX Spectrum version with the "PLAY SPECTRUM" written across the screen? That's a known compatibility issue with some older titles when running them on a 128K machine. On those machines if you drop into 48K BASIC and load the game from there, you'll find it works correctly.
Or just emulate a 48K machine in your case.
Cheers!
You were missing the Megadrive/Genesis version on the "All versions side by side" scene. :P
Yes, that's right. Bit of a bummer that was missing.
My fav❤ is the MSX (1:47),Which
Frogger game is your
Fav?
How disappointed would you have been back in the day to get one of those versions where you can't even get across the street?
Yep. Especially that BBC version.
Left out frogger in the konami arcade advance GBA
Part 2 of the show will feature it.
I'm surprised that there wasn't a Genesis/Mega Drive port sooner, considering SEGA released this title.
Well, it certainly couldn't have been much later. Frogger was the last officially released game for the Genesis.
Same deal with the SNES one, if not the exact last game, it sure was one of them.
C64 version looks and sound still so good =)
I was hoping to see a comparison of the 3 official licensed Atari 8-bit versions.
I'm not sure about that one. If I can find it I'll add it yo part 2 of this video.
And for those who want tp play the MSX version of Frogger online in their browser/on their phone:
www.file-hunter.com/MSX/index.php?id=frogger
Frogger is one of those games I never really got. Just bored me silly
For the 5200, use the keypad. Or, you can use tue joystick. Position the stick in the direction you want to move, and hit fire.
Kind of a shame to see a deadline result in a less-than-complete video, especially when this video will stand here for the next decade. Even more ironic how so many games and ports ended up crap due to deadlines when most gamers would've rather waited for it to be done right. I still love these but had to share my thoughts on the tradeoff between deadlines and completeness.
Part 2 is now being worked upon 👍
I have Frogger for the Atari 5200. The weird thing about it was that you had to hold down one of the side buttons while using the joystick to make the frog move. I had never played a version of Frogger that required you to do that. Why did the developer (Parker Bros) do that? Have no idea but given the placement of the side buttons it really took away from the experience IMO.
There were two versions released for the C64, and you picked the Sierra version when I thought it would end up being the Parker Bros version like most of the other 8Bit versions featured. Yes they are different and honestly think the PB version is better. Comes about because arcade rights holders back then sold the magnetic (tape/disk) rights separately to cartridge.
I've played the BBC Micro version.
Sorry to hear that 😢😁
The PC version of the PlayStation game the music doesn't play on Windows 10 though you can rip the music and play it as if they were standard MP3s also having 4 player split screen is nice plus lan play
Also they made an entire sequel based off of the fact that sometimes you step on a crocodile in the water section of the first area (retro levels) that is based off the arcade game
Even the C64 version is good, I'm pretty sure that a competent developer can get an almost arcade version out of the machine, reading a commentary I found that there is a homebrew version, and gonna check it out!
I really had to check it on Google because you Made me doubt, but the first PC already used Ms-Dos. What Operating System does the PC version runs on?
What I should have said was this used the base PC meaning that the game was executed upon booting the PC. It didn't run within Dos unlike later games which were loaded within Dos and later on within Windows.
@@RetroCore Aaah, ok, so the disk was bootable itself. I remember a few games like that.
Despite Konami's good relations with Nintendo, no Famicom version of this game is released. That's why this game is unpopular in CIS countries.
bro! Mega drive and snes are 16 bit consoles right? the arcade wasn't 16 bit. people wanted everything to be looking 16 bit if it's going to be on genesis and snes. so....i like how the snes looks. it looks more detailed and it makes sense for people to have a 16 bit port.
I played pc version. It is not so bad as seems in the video. There is also a few more ports for px
@Diskun and there are ports for intelivision and colecovision @this one is great)
That song at the beginning isn't even a remix of a frogger song why you added it there?
Can't get the 5200 controls to work? Yep sounds about right.
also u missed out on tha PC-CD ROM version of Frogger which was like tha PS1 version but alot easier to play! good luck gettin' tha music to work on any windows newer than 98! it did came out 1 year before tha PS1 version however
7:55 Who developed the bbc micro version?
No idea I'm afraid.